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#fury
meager gyro
sinful spoke
waawaa diff designs diff physics
fervent socket
Math checks out
sinful spoke
inland flame
gonna have to defer to how Grom holds it on this one sry bud
he obviously knows how to use his weapon best
meager gyro
he's not holding it in combat like that
silk wharf
Doesn't he, seconds after this picture, throw it?
marble pilot
I just use anger to hold my weapons. Holding it by the spikes just generates more rage
sinful spoke
Doesn't he, seconds after this picture, throw it?
axes are meant to be thrown yes
and that is indeed an axe
meager gyro
JUST THROW WEAPONS AS FURY duh
silk wharf
Hand axes, yes. Not 2h monstrosities. lol
meager gyro
gimme chains to attach to them bad boys
sullen tendon
inland flame
troll axe thrower spec in WoW when
sullen tendon
sinful spoke
well if u look as his body
his build
he is strong enough to hold it like that
and since the handle is so long
sinful spoke
he can use whichever distance
on the other hand fyralath
has 2 handles
close and far
ur character uses close
sullen dove
baze try not to send a non spoiler tagged spoiler challenge: level impossible
silk wharf
LOL
inland flame
Gotta give them a third hero talent tree so it can be fair when they open access to every hero talent to every classes specs
sinful spoke
that one isnt
meager gyro
POLEARM
buoyant salmon
i mean caring about spoilers is cope
meager gyro
makes sense but swords and axes dont' have agility. Any survival hunters?
inland flame
illidan was a good guy the whole thyme and emperor hakkan is belial and bambi's mother dies
there now that we've got that outta the way
winter shoal
choco I thought you quit the game
slim coral
baze try not to send a non spoiler tagged spoiler challenge: level impossible
I must report the news
modest condor
proud of you
novel tiger
So what belt effect are people using? I have the haste buff atm but was wondering
silk wharf
I just run the bolts effect but i did hear that it can randomly proc on things in m+ and ninja pull.
slim coral
proud of you
I was yapping but you werent here
basically sd is prio over everything
I gained 300k overall by prioring sd over everything including cds
modest condor
so you did 2.9mil as well?
red berry
basically sd is prio over everything
is that ST on the PTS?
timber hare
Are we expecting more changes? Seems kind of minimal
slim coral
is that ST on the PTS?
PTS?
modest condor
nice
yeah sd is blasting
pretty crazy that you gained like 400k dps from just prioing sd over everything lol
orchid dagger
inb4 Execute nerfs
slim coral
pretty crazy that you gained like 400k dps from just prioing sd over everything ...
yeah I locked in and prio'd it above all
I tried telling you in the stream but coudlnt find ya
modest condor
i was afk
whole yacht
yeah I locked in and prio'd it above all
So what. You just ista hit it every time?
Insta*
slim coral
So what. You just ista hit it every time?
when you get an SD proc yes
modest condor
prioing things over rampage while playing AM is cringe tho
slim coral
prio the SD proc above all as long as you are enraged
whole yacht
Neat.
slim coral
will also cause giga issues when you get amechanic
compact knot
is ptr down
storm birch
Thanks !!!
sullen dove
good kill am
heavy galleon
Si what do you think about tier set reveal ?
young swan
banger
heavy galleon
I guess thane will remaind the go to for M+
sullen dove
yepge
young swan
we'll see
fiery edge
man i love target capped
feral ivy
whats with curse forge fucken making it so i cannot click on certain fucken buttons
meager gyro
THE FROST DKs HAVE SPOKEN. Thunderous Roar will be turned into an empowerment spell.
sullen dove
wouldnt mind charging it up to do more up front damage than dot damage
assuming it also actually did damage
snipe an add set spawn or somethin with it
sounds coo
meager gyro
breath of sindragaso is empowerment spell now, it's only matter of time
whole yacht
where can i see the reveal
merry night
is that ptr BS/Rav nerf applied to fury still or is it only going on prot?
modest condor
what nerf?
merry night
modest condor
no it's just prot being removed from the tooltip
oblique trail
it's just removed from prot
merry night
ah so prot got removed from it
oblique trail
It's a talent we've never played, and unlikely still to be played
merry night
i was wondering if we'd go into it realistically or not, ive never played it iirc
hushed gust
i mean- maybe if there was a tier bonus that worked with Ravager? but that's not a thing currently. guess it depends on how good said tier bonus is, really.
north geyser
blizz are charging up to make fury not capped at 5 targets in m+ anymore 
hushed gust
well, the slayer tier set bonuses give more Reap the Storm procs, by giving it an 20% chance on Raging Blow. i'll be interested to see if they do more for Slayer, so that the gap between it and Mountain Thane is smaller? I doubt they'll make it as good as early s1, but if it somehow does become good in m+ again, next season's gonna be a good time for it. Bladestorm, Thunderous Roar, and Reap the Storm would likely come in handy in stuff like Priory, Floodgate, the murlocs in Tazavesh...
I know Thunder Blast and Ravager are a thing, but Mountain Thane's tier set has a set number of things it can hit with its bonus damage. it makes Thunder Blast more frequent, sure, but- blender mode fun.
north geyser
prime charm
It will be astounding if there are no class/spec changes to fury. This will be multiple patches and even expacs of the same turgid crap
hushed gust
What do you mean expacs? Our biggest change was in 11.1 where we lost almost all of our burst, because Blizz didn’t like us being good at our job.
slim coral
we haven't had an actual impactful new talent the entire time
hushed gust
I mean- fair, but I guess that means you want something bigger than OF Titan’s Torment and s4 of DF
oblique trail
What was big in S4
Fury was obscenely flat during S4, the only somewhat spike in damage we had was Fyralath
You quite literally had near 100% uptime of CDs during S4 so there was nothing to be bursty or spiky during that time
hushed gust
most dramatic talent change, honestly.
oblique trail
Dramatic?
I don't recall there being any change in S4, that wasn't already in play during S2
hushed gust
sorry, not s4, s3.
young swan
okay but nothing actually changed we just played new stuff
stuff that was already there
static seal
wdym guys bladestorm clicking BT for you is a huge shakeup for fury 🙂
young swan
stuff that was removed after the only tier we played it
hushed gust
the biggest point was that there wasn't nothing, just not as big of an overhaul as other classes.
north geyser
I wand a version of that arcane mage talent to get rampage funnel damage that would go kinda hard
hushed gust
in honesty, i just want OF Titan's Torment back. gimme my burst, and i'll be happy. even if i have to play baby Enh Shaman still.
sullen dove
You quite literally had near 100% uptime of CDs during S4 so there was nothing t...
nah you just still played s3 2set cuz it was just better cuz s2 voters were clowns
Awakened prepatch best era of fury 
undone flower
11.2.5 Omega Turbo-Boost Will be our time
sullen dove
real
hushed gust
is- the belt out yet? i never bothered to check...
compact siren
Banezi PLEASE 
react this message
oblique trail
nah you just still played s3 2set cuz it was just better cuz s2 voters were clow...
get real
sullen dove
love balls
oblique trail
L tank pov
junior gale
I hate to break it to you but specs that are "meta" in M+ doesnt mean they dont get things
timber hare
We don't get things so others get things 🥰
slim coral
Wait- they're *giving* things to UH?
they gave like 7 new things to unholy and like 20 to frost
radiant plank
uh changes look sick
hushed gust
well, it's still early, so lessee what happens, i guess. still huffing the hopium.
slim coral
uh changes look sick
they're fucking nasty
I tested them for a bit
it's actually disgusting
also AMZ
is back
upper spruce
is there a way to get crafted gear with the new ilvls on ptr?
fickle stirrup
I'm confused. Didn't they confirm Arms and Fury were getting changes? I just took this as they are gonna be made available on another PTR build.
Same thing happened last season with some classes not getting changes til like week 2 or 3 of the PTR.
upper spruce
yeah thats what im assuming
jolly mist
is there a way to get crafted gear with the new ilvls on ptr?
ilv scales up when in dungeons mate
upper spruce
okok ty
fading sky
I'm confused. Didn't they confirm Arms and Fury were getting changes? I just too...
I hope so though for me its small changes could make huge difference
Like of worth using and soft at 8 + same with roar and buff it.
Id be happy with fury tbh
But ofc i know we could use a proper overhaul, all these conditionals prob not fun once wa's are gone😂
plucky ice
BS no cd whoa massive
fickle stirrup
I just dont like how slow and uninvolved the spec is compared to previous iterations of it. I dont want change for the sake of change cause knowing them they could swing that pendulum too far out but idk, something cool would be nice.
Can't even get interesting/decent tier sets either. Reading through all of them after seeing Warrior's first was just a "😐" moment.
Diabolist summoning a new demon to fight with them, Apoc forcing a Rider to fight with you, DPS Shaman getting a free Ascendance every 3 stormsurges/Tempest proc, etc etc and we got these boring stinkers lol
glad plover
I just dont like how slow and uninvolved the spec is compared to previous iterat...
I had this feeling for a while that warriors seem to be lowest of priority when it comes to design and unique approach. Blizzard same as large community seemingly sees warriors as "zug zug" and nothing more.
fading sky
I just dont like how slow and uninvolved the spec is compared to previous iterat...
U only play fuey i presumw
Coz tier looks rad as arms
And slayer fury doesnt look half bad either
fickle stirrup
I had this feeling for a while that warriors seem to be lowest of priority when ...
110% but again, them trying to break out of the box leads to weird goofy changes like the original WB/CS visuals lmao
fickle stirrup
U only play fuey i presumw
Nah I play all 3 and yea Arms looks kinda lit but again, boring. The most interesting thing about it is potentially taking Skullsplitter for the faster DoT dmg and the amped dots from tier + having some added prio damage
fading sky
Booring how??
fickle stirrup
Bruv it literally is just +Crit
fading sky
Col slams harder empowers other factors adds bleeds
radiant plank
Booring how??
Fury brain cant handle sub 10000000 bazillion apm spec
fading sky
Dno man worst take ever
Wft u want another button to press?
Lik me this is our kit. Now we focus ms even more might play battlelord eb resets will feel good
Sks isnadded
Like how is this not kindda rad
Improves aoe a lot
glad plover
Sets for next patch actually seem good, slayer for fury will really improve AOE pressure of a spec esecially in Mythic+ and Thane is going to be improved in ST as well as 5 target cleave.
fickle stirrup
No? Im just saying its boring in the sense that it doesn't change anything visually, its just more damage but in a non interactive way.
glad plover
The bigger issue for next patch will be the fact that AMZ is getting a buff, making Rally even less desirable in raid.
fading sky
And slayer set looks cool, for st we got better dmg and we wanna press sd more
fickle stirrup
I already said that that's partially one of the more interesting bits of POTENTIALLY taking SkS but even that is boring lmfao
fading sky
Makes itnworth pressin as fury
static mountain
Are the new tier sets available for testing on the ptr?
radiant plank
Are the new tier sets available for testing on the ptr?
yeah
glad plover
Are the new tier sets available for testing on the ptr?
They Datamined them
fading sky
I already said that that's partially one of the more interesting bits of POTENTI...
Ok what would be fun??
What is fun for u?
And still something that doenst wreck core gameplay
radiant plank
sounds like rerolling might be fun for this guy
fading sky
Im thinkin the same
modern ingot
Set bonuses are ok but still gonna get destroyed by all uncapped classes in M+ so not much improvement.
lapis slate
Give me legion warrior
fading sky
Albeit mby not for the better
🤪
Arms will be fine in keys
As long as we have 1 spec that works im fine
fickle stirrup
Ok what would be fun??
Meh, idk. My main gripes are with the clunkiness of the spec than the tier set but hopefully that changes with what they reveal later!
fading sky
If u wanna only play 1 be prepared to be mid
Fury what clunky??
It flows extremelynwell
fickle stirrup
sounds like rerolling might be fun for this guy
Hell nah, have been a warrior main since I started and the class can be in the DUMPS and I'll still ride with it 😤
fading sky
Esp slayer
fickle stirrup
Fury what clunky??
I was referring to Arms!
fading sky
Demo isnt clunky in raid
glad plover
Demo isnt clunky in raid
arms as a spec is clunky in general
radiant plank
fury players will always find arms clunky
cuz they got the best feedback/gameplay loop
since legion
ingame
fading sky
Not gonna disagree
glad plover
True you can play fury just with default sound cues of abilities, however recently to play it at its maximum potential you have to expose yourself to some clunk
fading sky
Hopefully ra will be bis for a tier
Its not rly
Press rb after bladestorn until u dry
Then ramp
glad plover
For example Burst of Power is exceptionally clunky, Reap the storm as well feels way to RNG to focus AOE rotation around
fading sky
I think we have different ideas of clunky🫡
Clunky is arms opener in keys
Nuclear strike launch code
glad plover
I agree, but you cant argue that burst of power and its proc is done well for Fury, in current state you might as well ignore it.
turbid bay
Is fury not getting any big changes in 11.2 like prot or will it be revealed later?
fading sky
Im guessin we are gettin somethin
turbid bay
Hope we get a tweak
red berry
we have a month or two between now and 11.2 and they've confirmed they're doing changes for classes
we'll get something
glad plover
It is not meant to be passive, giving bloodthirst massive damage buff and removing its cooldown as well as changing icone of Bloodthirst, by all design philosophy should be a indication for a player that ability becomes highest priority, however currently that is not the case, you still fallow same rotation with Burst of Power active, or no.
red berry
is it going to be what we need?
we'll see
a lot of people are calling for them to gut target caps, so hey
maybe they will
turbid bay
They need to the next set of dungeons will have big pulls as well
glad plover
a lot of people are calling for them to gut target caps, so hey
Yeah I noticed that finally community seems to notice fury is underperforming.
celest sierra
So I’ve been doing some reading between the forums and logs etc . It seems a lot of people complain about fury being over powered in PvP . Makes me wonder , does that contribute to why blizzard won’t touch fury warrior in regards to pve ? Afraid any change they make to strengthen them in pve will make them even more broken in PvP ??
turbid bay
They can seperately balance it
glad plover
Target cap is not the issue
It kinda is, fury is made in such a way that if you want to be good in AOE you in turn have to be good in ST, so if Blizzard wants to keep fury in middle of ST for raid, Fury will in term have lower damage for AOE situations.
red berry
i think we're middle of the pack in raid, aren't we
fading sky
It kinda is, fury is made in such a way that if you want to be good in AOE you i...
Nah
red berry
there are classes that do what we do better in every situation
fading sky
Mestcleaver needs a slight buff
red berry
five targets
turbid bay
Middle of the pack is fine for raid in a raid where class tuning is pretty good
red berry
in ST
turbid bay
Its just m+
celest sierra
Fury definitely performs well in raid . Especially because even on AOE fights we don’t really go past the 5 target caps . Look at Gally he spawns 5 adds ? So we hit hard . Only boss that spawns more then 5 is Stix .
fading sky
Its that simple rly
glad plover
Nah
Fury AOE is directly proportional to its ST damage just by design of the class, when fury was good in Raid mainly in Dragonflight, it was also good in M+.
red berry
idk if it is that simple. odyn was gut because of raid. if there's a lot of adds and odyns is strong again, we will run into the same situation
fading sky
Fury AOE is directly proportional to its ST damage just by design of the class, ...
Its was of and roar brother
celest sierra
But overall I think the complaints come from our performance in M+ and I think blizzard can keep the spec as is just raise our cap to 8 targets
red berry
our burst was the strongest in season one and they gut it for a reason
we don't need burst, either
fading sky
And so many classes can have upfront burst
fading sky
our burst was the strongest in season one and they gut it for a reason
Reason was dumb
celest sierra
Our burst is so fuckin atrocious
Our burst when RA was the talent to take was nutty . Even now with AM we burst hard
turbid bay
In a current season where threat is a issue being without burst is fine
red berry
i mean i don't necessarily disagree that odyns can afford to be much stronger now that they've removed us having two
fading sky
Reason was knee jerk reaction to hc dungeons
red berry
it wasn't heroic dungeons, it was raid
glad plover
Its was of and roar brother
Not really, season 2 was best performing fury and and it was all our rotational abilties doing a lot of damage and having CDs for every pack. That is how fury should perform in M+. We had among best ST damage, and in M+ we had strong CDs every single pack.
red berry
we had competent ST earlier in the season but i don't think that's been true for awhile now
well
we are still good in ST, mind
its more just
other classes have caught up after tuning
fading sky
We fell off
red berry
yes
fading sky
Cliff
celest sierra
Not really, season 2 was best performing fury and and it was all our rotational ...
Change our cap to 8 instead of 5 and fury will shine as is
fading sky
When ret has better st
fading sky
Change our cap to 8 instead of 5 and fury will shine as is
Not rly
It will do more overall but not fix problem with dmg profile
Being flat as f
Make ra of roar goood
And we cookin
red berry
honestly they should just uncap ground current. that won't fix our problems but it tickling mobs and it being capped at five is very silly
red berry
it hitting every mob for 100k won't make us outperform other classes lmao
glad plover
Cds every pull means cds must be bad
No, they were actually good in Dragonflight, Ravager did a lot of damage.
celest sierra
Not rly
I definitely think so . Fury still slaps on ST only thing holding us back in M+ is our 5 target caps compared to the rest . Even with 5 targets we can still burst to 20K . Mean while other classes do way more aoe cause uncapped . Making us 8 def closes the gap a little
red berry
the ravager buff in 10.0.5 was huge
nah i think at this point we're not really any more competent in ST then the other classes
fading sky
Rav cant do dmg coz of unhinged
red berry
people meme about scaling but you know a spec that actually gains benefit from stats?
frost DK
unholy
fading sky
Frosts gonna be lit with cjangrs
glad plover
Rav cant do dmg coz of unhinged
Huricane was way stronger capstone, it was literally mini Avatar that is why it was removed
fading sky
Hurricane was bad for design
red berry
yes
fading sky
But fun nontheless
celest sierra
U know what’s funny , I’m part of a few class discords and no discord has as much discussion as we do here in the fury chat
glad plover
and i kind of miss it
You miss it because they did not add anything to compenzate for its removal, I thought that they are going to buff base line Ravager damage, however they did not really bother with that.
celest sierra
Not even arms gets this much discussion
celest sierra
You miss it because they did not add anything to compenzate for its removal, I t...
Remove SMF put bladestorm in its place and make ravenger its own node
glad plover
It does nothing to support our overall damage, Huricane allowed you to have 40-50% increased damage in Avatar Rec windows, exactly what we needed to skyrocket our strong ST damage into massive 5 target cleave.
heavy galleon
They should uncap meat cleaver to soft cap 7 target and nerf it if needed
fading sky
Id rather have stronger prio profile ngl
glad plover
Id rather have stronger prio profile ngl
I agree I hated Huricane because you had to play it, but again, capstones now are very weak for all our iconic abilities, especially OF.
turbid bay
Change avatar to become more interesting its such a boring button
fading sky
Of needs rework
turbid bay
Would like to see a avatar rework
fading sky
Avatar as furyn is fine
fading sky
100%
glad plover
Honestly make avatar baseline
Yeah been arguing this change for a while.
turbid bay
I mean they could every warrior spec runs it
celest sierra
All 3 specs use it . It’s mandatory for all 3 specs so why have something that is absolutely nessessary as a talent node and not baseline
They could actually replace it with something spec specific if they made it baseline
fading sky
Also its such an iconic ability
Noobs shouldnt be able to not take it
😅
So baseline u get it at lvl 20
U rly should get to play with avatar early in lvlin
celest sierra
Honestly make it baseline and give us glad stance back
fading sky
Nah
celest sierra
Or banner from maldraxus
celest sierra
Almost every other class got to keep their shadowlands cov abilities . All we got to keep was Spear . Make avatar baseline give us condemn , banner and AA
heavy galleon
I would like something like OF reworked and being a rage spender for AoE and rampage for ST Cleave
celest sierra
Remove single minded fury to make room if need be
Couple other talents that fury warrior never picks up in the class tree and spec trees . Just waisted space if u ask me
red berry
banner being back would honestly be lovely
we never really got to see it in its hayday
but i understand if they're wary about adding more group buffs
celest sierra
Replace them with stuff that we can use . And or stuff that can provide equal but diff types of benifits and or utility
fading sky
but i understand if they're wary about adding more group buffs
Just make it a miniraid buf, and scale in m+
But ye mainly banner looked cool🤣
And aa was just warrior for me
Just make line brown
celest sierra
Spell reflect should be baseline
Cap roar / menance . Don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone use ther node
Onslaught to replace slam in general
fading sky
Onslaught being dead is a bit sad
heavy galleon
Yes SMF should be only cosmetifmc
fading sky
In gen i like if tier sets // tuning
celest sierra
Does anyone actually hit Slam ? Even as slayer ? ST?
fading sky
Forces diff builds
fading sky
Does anyone actually hit Slam ? Even as slayer ? ST?
Ww does more dmg
heavy galleon
Fuck slam
fading sky
So i hope no
celest sierra
Ww does more dmg
Exactly . Remove slam and replace it with onslaught
fading sky
Ww is weirdly a nice key
heavy galleon
I dont want to bind this shit 😂
celest sierra
I spin in frustration coz nothing good is up
😂😂
red berry
i do sort of miss
onslaught
it hitting 5 targets for 100% was goofy
made it so strong
fading sky
Y
And fair
We needed a big slap aoe button
For 5 targrts
Slayer fury might be decent in aoe next tier
And the feedback loop might be good in raid if sd procs = more slayer strikes to more marks
red berry
tbh idk after the whirlwind buff its not bad right now
fading sky
With some nerfs to rb
red berry
didn't feel that way when i tested it on the PTS, raging blow was not prccingi t that much
fading sky
Rb doesnt proc?
Bt does
Also rb is to good a buttob
Sadly it wrecks us a bit
Rb buffs everything, and does good dmg per push
fading sky
2%
Per stack of overwhelm
So targets needs to be fully overwhelmed
Dno how that works in aoe
Cant remember
hushed gust
Bladestorm and reap triggers stack it up.
fading sky
Hm so that loop might me quite good
hushed gust
Your opener should put everything at 8+, hopefully capped at 10
hushed gust
Just be a good fury and don’t recklessness+Baldestorm more than once a pack.
Or- well, have one available for the next pack is the big thing
My biggest Hopium is we can make OF in Slayer more viable for m+. The burst sequence can be enough to off-set the whirlwind cap issue if they tune it right.
fading sky
Thats how i hope they tune as weml
hushed gust
Reality is, we won’t get double OF back, but it’s not a bad idea to bring it back… we have at least 3 dungeons that are going to thrive on gigapulls, so the uncapped burst is going to be necessary to keep up with Unholy and Balance druid.
It really only means we’d bind Recklessness to OF, and have that be our smaller Avatar window instead.
hushed gust
It’s too early to say they won’t. Let’s just wait and see for now.
fading sky
2 x of is dead
Thats good
Means 1 of can matter
Coz 2 x of in a row ofc is to good in any raid enviorment
compact knot
i wonder what trinkets we use since we only really have 1 viable on use stat trinket (its a melee spymasters web so its not good on short fights)
flat damage trinkets look pretty good next tier though, never know
hushed gust
I think we’re using Sacc again. That is, if they don’t nerf it beyond reason.
If they do, there’s Pacemaker to be the back-up, at least.
Then, we still have yet to see raid trinkets, so that may be where our on-use comes from.
compact knot
we saw raid trinkets on ptr
hushed gust
Then I’m just blind and unaware
compact knot
there is 1 stat on use in the raid and its the melee spymasters
gives like 55k strength at max stacks
but took me like 3 minutes to stack it
hushed gust
3 minutes is like- 2 packs in a 12 or 13, so it’s not egregious, but yeah. I can see how forced RP can make that fall off hard.
compact knot
the stacks dont fall off inbetween combat
you can just build them and then use them whenever
so i dont think itll be bad in m+
hushed gust
Oh! Nevermind, that’s just stupid and fun.
compact knot
yeah
hushed gust
What’s the current CD on it?
compact knot
20 second cd
but the tradeoff is that low stacks when you use it
it doesnt give much strength
idk if you played with spymasters web ever in nerubar palace but it essentially works the same way, stacks that dont fall off and for each stack you get X amount of mainstat, you can use it whenever to give you the mainstat
was like crazy op on arcane mage
sour frigate
but the tradeoff is that low stacks when you use it
Wow spymaster for woyeor
compact knot
yeah was my favorite trinket when i played arcane in season 1
burst for a dumb amount of damage
fading sky
Gonna fuck as arms
compact knot
i think itll be crazy as arms
fading sky
Send that huuuuge col
compact knot
and even crazier in m+
fading sky
Stack into a pack
compact knot
yeah
fading sky
Just gone
compact knot
i mean
hushed gust
If it’s a 3 minute build-up, that can seem a bit stinky with fury’s intended use of 1.5 minute burst and 45 second smaller burst. But- that second avatar press gonna look juicy.
compact knot
its gonna fuck
fading sky
Well u will prob just send it with avatar every 1.4
1.5
But that trinket + any kind of dmg phase
We gonna fuck brothers
Arms in exexutie
Hmm col in any phase
Might be silly
compact knot
trinket could push arms to crazy burst in m+
fading sky
Pop it send all big demo ms sks ms
compact knot
with new tierset
compact knot
there is a 3 target council boss this raid
compact knot
Its gonna skyrocket fdk breath
fdk breath got reworked
lowkey looks like shit
unless im reading it wrong
(i literally have never played or even looked at fdk breath, i have no idea if its different but i was told it was)
also the second boss trinket is interesting, you get a orb that chases you for 20 seconds, when you collect the orb you get 6k crit, however, you can get multiple orbs to chase you and if you overlap them you get 12k+ crit instead
hushed gust
WoWhead page says less RP cost per second.
compact knot
its a rolling buff though so the first orb will fall off after the intended amount of time after being picked up, it works same way as festermight
lots of cool trinkets this tier
the message im replying to shows pretty much every new trinket (that matters)
its missing the cool ass big damage trinket though, its like a 2 (3?) minute cd that straight up does like 30 million damage on 3 targets
seems decent
oblique trail
(i literally have never played or even looked at fdk breath, i have no idea if i...
It's very different yes
Assuming that goes through, it'll work like Evoker breaths that you can charge up, where as the previous version they've had since forever just continuously used up runic power until you'd run out
jolly marten
hey fellow warriors.. where is our utility buffs?
meanwhile Mages intellect buff its again 6% from 3%.. here we go again
glad plover
hey fellow warriors.. where is our utility buffs?
Does not seem so, and at this point only BL or CR could bring us to level of other classes.
But BL just fits warrior better.
hardy cargo
im pretty sure that talent is only for the mage, not for the whole group
"Arcane Intellect grants YOU 3% more intellect"
heavy dock
yo guys what was the average m+ dungeon lvls to get 3k rating?
that rashanan mount looks pretty cool next season xd
eternal sundial
sour frigate
Now Nelfs are useless <:clueless:1099922541923024997>
Shares cd with combat pot
inner zinc
I mean you can also not sacrifice a pot as nelf
sour frigate
Therefore its dog
dense elbow
Rogues and Ferals are very happy with that
split crater
hey guys, what stats i should run for m+ thane fury? I feel sims are unsatisfactory for me
pure breach
remote bobcat
hey guys, what stats i should run for m+ thane fury? I feel sims are unsatisfact...
sims are unsatisfactory for you? they tell you what you need so whats there to be satisfied or unsatisfied about
midnight kite
I am pretty sure the only difference in AoE is crit is a little bit better but not really enough to make a huge difference
Ilvl is usually king (within reason, you cant drop to like 0 haste)
dense elbow
hey guys, what stats i should run for m+ thane fury? I feel sims are unsatisfact...
Depends on what you value.
Classic haste/mast is just solid, and grants the most ST value. Just do ST sim to focus your character.
For AoE you want more crit, again, you can sim this to gain good values. Then compare it vs ST gain/loss.
Often at this point, you can also push in a lot of versa. It helps you live and it ain't bad DPS wise.
You can mix and match quite a bit based on personal preferences.
slim coral
Still not sure how I feel about execute being the highest prio button
It felt ok once I adjusted but will punish downtime a lot
iron portal
Shares cd with combat pot
Imho should only share cd with nelf meld cd change my mind
remote bobcat
It felt ok once I adjusted but will punish downtime a lot
i like downtime punishment, it rewards good players and especially creative minds trying to optimize uptime
flat river
we're so back
they added new talents to prot
but nothin for fury or arms
alright prot new damage dealer
dense elbow
Ill reserve my thoughts for next week tho
Remember you push out BT for RB, so just think of Exe as the new BT on AoE
It is basically just current reap gameplay, just with 3x the potential
dense elbow
I will wait till they made it work, then decide
slim coral
Idk if it’s bugged or just bad
flat river
Also MT tier set is ads
they released tier sets?
slim coral
they released tier sets?
Yeah I tested it for like 5 hours
flat river
send plz
dense elbow
Yep, for slayer it was actually worse than expected
They actually went down the RB route
flat river
oh found it
slim coral
Slayer needs help
flat river
ofc ret tier set is strong
slim coral
Remember you push out BT for RB, so just think of Exe as the new BT on AoE
Well technically when you get the SD proc it’s the highest prio
slim coral
Which you get a shit ton of SD procs
So basically you’re using execute every 2nd global
dense elbow
Well technically when you get the SD proc it’s the highest prio
On AoE you already wanted to send BT as prio
flat river
like basically need to stack the target to 10 stacks to make RB actually have the same proc chance as BT
also the tier set does nothing to buff bladestorm
which the slayer kit is about lol
and they are increasing raging blow damage again ffs
dense elbow
So basically you’re using execute every 2nd global
If it really is every 2nd global, and they want you to push in RBs into that mess. They really fucked up with the gameplay design.
Guess it will be Ramp, exe, BT at 100% crit, RB, BT
Doesn't sound too bad, but then comes the question of - at how many targets do you just want to ignore exe beyond getting 3x BS stacks.
flat river
i want the warrior dev found and tortured
dense elbow
I bet we just gonna spam RB in m+ and play the reap lottery all day every day
Proc and you gained DPS, bad streak? You lost DPS
unreal vale
dense elbow
TierSet is big to shake things up, why?
slim coral
Yeah I mean I was just listening to xan and silm
iron portal
we're so back
I only am glad that Battle shout cd is gone
Hated to buff then somebody shows up and i have to wait to rebuff again 😦
keen knoll
Hello all! I'm kinda new to the game and idk what to chose right now, I got claymore 681 and BiS max champ, but I just got dropped Hero Capital punisher should I just change BiS or go Capital and BiS?
iron portal
Highest ilvl to main hand
dense elbow
Neither, just craft the last 2hander
flat river
Hello all! I'm kinda new to the game and idk what to chose right now, I got clay...
change classes, we're doomge 
dense elbow
What are we using for the belt?
dense elbow
Got a whole breakdown of all of em
keen knoll
I simmed myself but it's the same thing
slim coral
Also I was doing 3 mil on a 5 min target dummy and my guldie was doing 6 mil on SP
dense elbow
And you use RBs?
flat river
it's joever 
slim coral
Also you aren’t doing 5 mil on ST
dense elbow
Oh, ST
dense elbow
Didn't you say 5t
slim coral
No
dense elbow
I got bamboozled
flat river
LOOK WHO CANT READ FUNKY 👀
dense elbow
flat river
making fun of me >:(
slim coral
I said dummy not dummies
slim coral
But anyways yeah either fury needs giga buffs or other classes are overtuned hard to know
fiery hare
fury is still taking a hit for dominating vanilla 30 billion years ago
lapis slate
Tuning passes will follow, I just want it to be fun
remote bobcat
Man BT is gonna be so shit
dense elbow
We prob get another
- RB/BT/Ramp +50% dam
- exe +3%
remote bobcat
we finna be pressing exe and rb all day
slim coral
Dk honestly is eating so good
tepid cedar
whats up motherfurries
slim coral
I’m jealous of dks on ptr
dense elbow
It's kinda funny, one would think that more stats would equal big gains for WoW #1 gear scaler that is warrior
Wait, you just don't have the bonus ilvl yet. That is all 
Warrior scale with gear
dense elbow
whats up motherfurries
Our ST is bad, apparently, and our Slayer AoE is a worse mess than ever
remote bobcat
Our ST is bad, apparently, and our Slayer AoE is a worse mess than ever
just click raging blow 4head
dense elbow
Do you send the ability for guaranteed damage, or the ability that will net you more damage if you proc twice in a row
Questions questions
I love RNG based DPS
Lottery is very so very fun
flat river
they should make it so EACH attack of raging blow has a chance to proc reap the storm
trust
since u attack with both weapons
tepid cedar
Our ST is bad, apparently, and our Slayer AoE is a worse mess than ever
are u serious
tepid cedar
these devs are fucking retsarted lol
hopefully theres tuning athat hasnt been published yewt
dense elbow
2months off, I am sure things get fixed
flat river
hopefully theres tuning athat hasnt been published yewt
hamstring buff
split crater
is something like this for dungeon slcie ok?
flat river
we're back
split crater
Depends on what you value.
Classic haste/mast is just solid, and grants the mos...
tyvm
dense elbow
we're back
Allows you to cast two hamstrings over 1 RB, meaning twice the chance to proc strikes 
thick fossil
I'm seeing a lot of copium in here.
thick fossil
Calling it now, Dps Shaman, Ret Pally, and some flavor or Mage and DK are gonna be OP broken tier sets.
thick fossil
Yeah, makes tanks fucking Demolish even better.
On paper it does look good. I just have my doubts it will turn out or stay as good as it sounds.
dense elbow
Tier looka fine for raid
If what based said holds true, we are beyond fucked for raid atm.
Sure, we will prob get an aurabuff (a huge one at that). But currently it is dire
fading sky
Sandbagging time!
fading sky
If what based said holds true, we are beyond fucked for raid atm.
Sure, we will...
What?
thick fossil
Sandbagging doesn't do shit.
fading sky
Col + sks will fuck
thick fossil
Fury does 3m DPS
Is this with the new tier sets?
dense elbow
Yep
fading sky
With 34 ilvls we do less dmg?
thick fossil
Fantastic.
fading sky
Warrior scaling
remote bobcat
Col + sks will fuck
dont jinx it
fading sky
dont jinx it
Problem is how far behind col is 🤣
sour frigate
Col + sks will fuck
Fuck sks...
thick fossil
We're gonna be stuck being the token aoe class again, by the sounds of it.
fading sky
Fuck sks...
Sks is a good button
sour frigate
Its not
fading sky
Sks is not big numbers
dense elbow
Blizz: let's make every other global an empowered execute!
Intern: but, sir, execute does no damage...
Blizz: Shut it Jimmy, go get me a glass of milk. We are about to balance Mage.
fading sky
Its loads of small ones though
thick fossil
SKS needs 3 things to be a good button.
Better sound, something crunchy and meaty.
Better visual, something a little bloody and exaggerated.
Actually do big damage.
sour frigate
Sks is shit ure right
fading sky
Sks is fine
remote bobcat
sks is not fine
fading sky
If it increases dmg
sour frigate
SKS needs 3 things to be a good button.
Better sound, something crunchy and meat...
But it enchances bleeds big damage
fading sky
Its fine
sour frigate
Check engulf button
fading sky
why are u pressing rend multiple times in ava window
Multiple times?
fading sky
Also lets play the game
U remove 1 slam
Add 1 rend
Like dno what u guys are crying bout for real
sour frigate
About woyeor becoming more and more dull each patch
While other specs get juicy stuff
sour frigate
Addin(button exists forever) dull button is dull
fading sky
So?
sour frigate
Nothing
remote bobcat
So slayer works
yes
dense elbow
Fuck. Fury is doomed again. Fuck
remote bobcat
its so good
sour frigate
remote bobcat
its so good for arms*
fading sky
Same but saying shit is booring is hopeless
dense elbow
I hate these cross spec tiersets
midnight kite
The slayer set looks shoddy when you read it but I do like +1m dps easy with it on dummy
midnight kite
Bladestorm Buff uptime 10% seems fine to me
fading sky
And we cokin
fading sky
Same
dense elbow
Talk Fury in Fury at least
remote bobcat
while fury is looking shyte
dense elbow
remote bobcat
i know
dense elbow
They ain't talking fury
remote bobcat
im just fuckin with ya
but hey man listen slayer arms will be pressing execute
juggernaut will be easier to maintain
it will actually deal damage
dense elbow
Hurray for Fury
remote bobcat
bro just think about it for fury
slayer fury
a lot more slayers strikes
more bladestorms
more ss + bf stacking after bs
dense elbow
... And trying to force in RBs for the real damage
midnight kite
the only problem I have with the slayer set BT is once again the "only press if you have to" button
dense elbow
More bladestorm also means more desync
Urfgghhj
I am tired boss
I just want the button to do damage. I don't want more presses, to make up for low dam
I just want it to do damage
remote bobcat
Fury is designated to press it often
thick fossil
They never should have fucked with Reckless abandon.
remote bobcat
thats ur life now
tepid cedar
lol its wild that in a new season we are worst than the season before
thick fossil
dense elbow
Then we get tuned
thick fossil
Not wrong
dense elbow
If we can't force in RB, it likely will be
remote bobcat
i mean lets be real
midnight kite
I actually kinda like rework RA design its just conflicts with hero talents
tepid cedar
lol how far behind are we from other classes in ptr
midnight kite
Like if you try to play RA thane then TB is using up BB/CB casts and if you play slayer bladestorm is
dense elbow
lol how far behind are we from other classes in ptr
sp 6m ST, Fury 3m st
midnight kite
Also idk how you would only be doing 3m ST on ptr
dense elbow
Blaze told me so
midnight kite
I am doing like 4.2-4.5m just swapping tier set
dense elbow
So you went from what to what?
midnight kite
I guess its probably a tad inflated because dummy drops sup 35% quickly
dense elbow
You went from 3m to 4.5m?
midnight kite
I doubt I do 3m without buffs/drums/pot
thick fossil
I'll try to get on the PTR this afternoon.
midnight kite
comparing to sim that DOES use lust/pot
dense elbow
Osa the hero we need
tepid cedar
u will neber be abel to compare to a sim
bc sim dosnt accoutn for dummy hp
and extended
execute range
dense elbow
I am just gonna doom over the worst looking (4) i have seen
It is made for me to hate
Tailor made
radiant plank
bc sim dosnt accoutn for dummy hp
You can fix your dummy hp in sim
tepid cedar
danwarr is live. wonder if hes in ptr or kleys
tepid cedar
You can fix your dummy hp in sim
oh really. how walhe
thick fossil
Most of this expansion has been just shifting on Warrior. It's the same shit every time someone talks me into coming back.
dense elbow
You can fix your dummy hp in sim
How happy are you with your TierSet. 1 to 10? 11?
radiant plank
oh really. how walhe
advanced sim custom enemy set hp = X%
its in github simc options section
thick fossil
"Oh warrior is so strong now, you'll love it." I play for a month or two and watch Blizz nerf it 10 times.
radiant plank
dans playing keyga
midnight kite
Design wise their both kinda lame, the Thane set is either bugged or actually just that bad, the slayer set seems strong currently
radiant plank
How happy are you with your TierSet. 1 to 10? 11?
Colossus a solid 8, Slayer atm maybe 6-7
tepid cedar
advanced sim custom enemy set hp = X%
is there a way to dynamically adjsut it in sim. or u just start it at 1
radiant plank
you can make it start at X or stay at X hp
thick fossil
The concept of the tier is neat, but I doubt it holds up. Also, rng shit is awful.
tepid cedar
you can make it start at X or stay at X hp
cool thanks
dense elbow
Oh? Silm mentioned not getting (4) procs
thick fossil
its just dogshit
radiant plank
idk I saw greg testing it and it looked to work correctly
limber oar
its just dogshit
My immediate reaction when i saw it
radiant plank
But lets be honest here
dense elbow
Nice, then we just wait for the 1000% buff to balance it
radiant plank
nobody expected the thane tierset to be good
dense elbow
Slayer one is ass. That (4) is the devil
midnight kite
they will probably just do something lazy like multiply the 2pc damage by 10x or something and maby tweek the proc chances
I dont even know if 10x would be enough
dense elbow
I dont even know if 10x would be enough
Was 0.3, would make it 3%
thick fossil
In order for it to really work well you would have to have a very regular proc. As in proc every 4-5 GCDs.
limber oar
I dont understand how they make an rng ability like tblast have a chance to actually make use of the tierset with ni inherent dmg modifier
The other 2 tiersets at least say “x increased dmg by 20%”
midnight kite
RNG is legit the theme of Thane for some reason
Lightning Strikes 25% chance Thunder Blas 35% chance Burst of power 15% chance Avatar of the storm 10% chance
2pc 35% chance, 4pc 20% chance
thick fossil
nobody expected the thane tierset to be good
summer quail
Lightning Strikes 25% chance Thunder Blas 35% chance Burst of power 15% chance A...
and yet we cannot proc avatar while in avatar...
thick fossil
Shush, this is Blizzard, logic is an evil word to them.
potent thicket
we got more rng in MT than pokemon has on their pokeballs formula
earnest canyon
This guy is upto hi-jinx and tomfoolery and I will not stand for it
quiet geyser
we got more rng in MT than pokemon has on their pokeballs formula
This made me lol
limber oar
Now I dont feel as bad about 20% Reap chance
Cause at least sudden desth executes have a 100% slayers strike chance at max overwhelm and execute at a baseline got more dmg
limber oar
True
tepid cedar
normal is endgammeeeeee
undone flower
2pc 35% chance, 4pc 20% chance
I didn’t play ptr fury yet, 20% proc on ionizing is per strike ?
Bc you launch 5, at 20% it is very likely to proc
flat river
real
undone flower
Impossible BFA Challenge was : kill lfr nzoth before the end of the tier
dense elbow
I lead so many LFR kills... It took hours, man.
slim coral
I didn’t play ptr fury yet, 20% proc on ionizing is per strike ?
Mountain thane tier set is literally useless
slim coral
Not really noticeable from normal lightening strikes
dense elbow
ok, then they missed the point
slim coral
Only reason you can tell a diff is that it last longer
dense elbow
(tuning is just that, wait for the 1000% buff, dont worry)
undone flower
Yeah if they put some blow ups on blast and strike
dense elbow
Just make it call down the thunder and then go PEWPEWPEW lightning
could be awesome
I see potential
I honestly think ppl would love if the proc was: SFX que that it procced, thunder rumble, followed 1 sec after by crackling lightning going ham 5 in a row (at a bit randomised interval). Crackling and booming
Making your brain go: Oh! Here it comes!
I am certain blizz will give us that
dense elbow
That is just tuning tho
dense elbow
after the 1k % buff it will be fine
red berry
its a tuning problem more then anything
dense elbow
Just care about the SFX and animations
red berry
well i doubt you'll press thunder blast in ST no matter what the tuning comes out to be
but maybe i will eat my words in two months
it sounds like the fury kit in general needs some major buffs to stand up to other classe
undone flower
tuning for fury warrior : new SFX for thunderblast and 7th new animation for warbreaker (misscategorized as fury)
red berry
assuming the shadow priest example isn't an outlier
dense elbow
We gonna get another round of:
- 50% bonus dam for Ramp/RB/BT
- 3% bonus for execute
dont worry
(followed by a season of buffing BS/Execute/OF, to make it not be dead talents again)
dense elbow
Nah, last buff will be another WW 120% buff
pale lava
(followed by a season of buffing BS/Execute/OF, to make it not be dead talents a...
I doubt they will ever make odyn "meta" again seeing how afraid they are of the burst profile
dense elbow
Based on what I have heard, it is a wonder they didnt delete Odyn's
There are certain parts of the team that hate OF
pale lava
Based on what I have heard, it is a wonder they didnt delete Odyn's
I think the only reason they didn't do that is because they would have to create something else in that place
dense elbow
OF is very popular
desert cloud
Then next xpansion , our team of devs have been monitoring the warrior class and we realised that they can hit 5 targets that is 3 more targets than the lore accurate so we decided to cap whirlwind buff to only hit 2 extra targets
pale lava
Ppl love OF
I mostly like OF because it's visually pleasing
undone flower
Based on what I have heard, it is a wonder they didnt delete Odyn's
They should do like pwar and delete a row of the tree
pale lava
hence why I heavily dislike roar, it's visually extremely bland
dense elbow
it is just RB+
desert cloud
I love of
dense elbow
Actually, it is RB-
x)
Why isnt OS just a RB modifier, that replaces it for one that does more dam
🤔
undone flower
At least the insulting 2 charge ravager disappeared from my sight as pwar
dense elbow
Lets not discuss Pwarr in here tho
undone flower
Yes but it’s still in fury tree
dense elbow
I could go on all day about dooming and being happy about it
undone flower
The most insulting talent I saw
pale lava
Actually, it is RB-
I think that's really the problem with onslaught, it's just another generator that doesn't do anything special
dense elbow
Fury could take a change like they did for Prot tho, true.
dense elbow
I think that's really the problem with onslaught, it's just another generator th...
It is RB-, yep yep
undone flower
Im not joking about delete the last row of fury
dense elbow
I dont mind having more power behind more investment
undone flower
And distribute what’s good somewhere else
dense elbow
Just gotta make em actually be value
pale lava
Im not joking about delete the last row of fury
I like Unhinged, the rest of the nodes are lackluster though from both tuning and gameplay point of view
dense elbow
Make TR 150%, instead of 15%, and hey, we fixed two problems in one go
That moment... when I find myself copium myself
to think it is 15%
holy I am down bad
plz send help
undone flower
I like Unhinged, the rest of the nodes are lackluster though from both tuning an...
Yes I was thinking about unhinged and 8 sec more cd
pale lava
roar also needs a visual overhaul in terms of a theme change tbh
undone flower
But every other capstones can go in the trash can
dense elbow
I prefer if they just revert it to Dragon Roar