fury

[muted meteor]

i just did a 15 rook with another fury he was running slayer build and i did thane and i got cooked

[plush zephyr]

Two furys in 15 is insane

[muted meteor]

ikr

was suprised i got invited

and then he got another war into it

i was pogging irl

[tepid cedar]

How this make yall feel

[eternal sundial]

good?

[tepid cedar]

1 button pally stil out dps us

[plush zephyr]

Personally I only play slayer now on both arms/fury lol

[modest condor]

completely neutral

[eternal sundial]

i see that clicking well gets rewarded

[muted meteor]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/8mqCcpdhAfzvWF9X?fight=2&type=summary

[plush zephyr]

It doesn’t matter to me at all

[muted meteor]

here^^

[modest condor]

i genuinely dont care about the 1 button rotation, it doesnt even remotely affect me

[smoky vale]

gm phil

[eternal sundial]

its 2131

its not gm

is gn

[plush zephyr]

LOBOZ

[fervent turtle]

so with the mountan thane m+ build we do not execute at all?

[eternal sundial]

rarely ye

[modest condor]

correct

[muted meteor]

only on st with sudden death procs

if u run that xd

[modest condor]

no

[muted meteor]

but probably still other stuff to click

[modest condor]

you dont run sd because you never press it

[smoky vale]

it is 1532

[fervent turtle]

icy veins m+ build has no sudden death

[modest condor]

it's not uncommon for me to finish a dungeon with 0 execute presses

[eternal sundial]

silly marilen

when the greggor onsen walks in

[modest condor]

greggor hot spring

[muted meteor]

he known or smtn? idk

[modest condor]

used to be a top player who went casual and turned into a bit of a meme here because he plays with an unconventional build

[muted meteor]

ahh

well he cooked me.

[smoky vale]

and still gaps people playing the regular build

[eternal sundial]

loboz good

[smoky vale]

loboz 0s aura gaps @gleaming siren

[eternal sundial]

AAAAAAAAAA

2

i love hit rating

[warm crag]

get in line bud

[tepid cedar]

Problem with loboz is your boss dps absolutely tanks. Ur really better off playing regular slayer m+ build. Might as well play arms if all you care about is seeing higher numbers lol

[smoky vale]

or just play what you find fun

[warm crag]

words of a mind that is too small to comprehend the loboz

[bitter palm]

loboz tindral sageswift incident

[muted meteor]

I did have higher boss dps than him ye

[bitter palm]

boss damage coper

[karmic fiber]

@sullen dove Still managedto kill it, 97 parse 😄

[bitter palm]

this is called performance

[modest condor]

you give up the main reason to play slayer (prio damage) just to still do less aoe than thane

[bitter palm]

hoooly build

[smoky vale]

holy aura

[bitter palm]

tbf he could like untalent from half the tree

and still parse 99

cracked like that

[eternal sundial]

aura farming

[covert blaze]

loboz 🐐

[bitter palm]

saw him in a pug

aura farming

opens on boss

0 cds used

adds spawn

top of details

aura

[smoky vale]

[tepid cedar]

You can pump with thane, especially now with all these boosts. Ran an unconventional 16 flood and banged 4.254 mil on wcl with thane. Throw a monk in there and prolly close to the r1 arms in a 16 flood.

[bitter palm]

i like thane cause its funny

haha big hp man

[tepid cedar]

Slayer is just so much more fun though

[eternal sundial]

@smoky valeclassic

[bitter palm]

geeked

[eternal sundial]

week 1 erudax

progression

[smoky vale]

why are you playing wow again phil

[eternal sundial]

we are a 10 man for mop

[bitter palm]

10 man mop is impossible

[eternal sundial]

like difficulty or

[bitter palm]

idk why im just waffling

[eternal sundial]

surely not

[bitter palm]

[covert blaze]

when does mop come out

[remote bobcat]

hi people

[bitter palm]

it will be piss

[eternal sundial]

in a month

[warm crag]

bossdamage doesnt time keys loboz does

[eternal sundial]

i mean all guys im playing with have ce

so i hope

we can do a fucking

10man CH

HC

classic

raid

or we are boosted freak dogs

[bitter palm]

classic > retail difficulty

took me 4 months to kill lich king hc 25 man

[covert blaze]

bait used to be believable

[bitter palm]

4 minutes sorry

[eternal sundial]

i hope i look tusks

also free CM set

drip for legion classsic sorted

[bitter palm]

legion classic with 7.3 systems

gonna go hard

[eternal sundial]

cluegi

itll be

400 mirrors

[covert blaze]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/984566516815122482/1252768575324946503/togif-16.gif

[eternal sundial]

bombardillo crocodilo (schnappi) @smoky vale

[bitter palm]

hoooly

tactician proc cs reset legion gang

shattered defenses big number next mortal strike

[eternal sundial]

yeppa

but mainly

fury juggernaut

good design

good talent

[modest condor]

[bitter palm]

battle cry

real cooldown

not avatar

i hope avatar explodes

"u become bigger and grayish shit colored for 20 seconds and u deal a bit more damage"

crazy cooldown

1:30

[eternal sundial]

me when shit cd

[bitter palm]

nah but deadly calm plays well no with that other thing

that makes ur hs spend more

or sometthing

[bitter palm]

lowkey this would go hard with sl arms

as a bladestorm replacement on st

[eternal sundial]

idek

[bitter palm]

rage pooling with it

hooly tech

[eternal sundial]

ion like no rage haver

with AM in spec

[bitter palm]

remove am

[eternal sundial]

good

[bitter palm]

removing am and buffing cds would fix at least 70% of the problems

[eternal sundial]

take

sir

[bitter palm]

then remove jugg and buff exe baseline

add tc to sd

and arms would fuck

[frank jolt]

Just starting gally prog. Do I use Lock n Stalk in ST or cleave option?

[sullen tendon]

i wish fury war had a skill like main gauche from outlaw

[bitter palm]

why

[sullen tendon]

main gauche + extra sinister strikes make outlaws combat animations look cool

[gilded pawn]

The worst mastery in the game

Yep

[sullen tendon]

the skill itself

when you proc main gauche + extra sinster strikes the animations look cool

its like what fury should be but isnt

[bitter palm]

nah fury should be just random swings

and blood everywhere

[sullen dove]

[fervent turtle]

is it a big dps loss to play bladestorm instead of ravager in mountain thane M+?

[gilded pawn]

Ya

[fading sky]

Juat play slayer

And bladestorm

[dense elbow]

Bladestorm almost does good dam too Slayer slays, if you worry the most about having fun

[remote bobcat]

incredibly so yea

[modest condor]

not really, couple %

[fervent turtle]

ok thx.. then i stick to ravager

i play slayer in delves

MT audiovisuals are too good to skip ^^

[modest condor]

mountain thane with bladestorm does more damage than slayer in aoe

[dense elbow]

Not during the bladestorm

[south kayak]

All they have to do with it is buff it, they rarely do when they buff their damage

Main gauche is also one of the only damage proc masteries left

Maybe just rework it?

[devout totem]

finally fixed my parse on sporcket 🙏

[covert blaze]

hi philliam

[smoky vale]

hi zhai

[covert blaze]

hi gala57

[compact knot]

u playing mop king?

lowkey cata arms is fun, dragon soul is just the worst tier ever made in classic

[undone flower]

I can’t believe Loboz mogged another warrior again, I’m afraid to do keys now

[muted meteor]

[compact knot]

loboz build is good

people shitting on it too much

[undone flower]

What if he is right behind me ????

I think I still own him as thane tbf

[dense elbow]

Nah, loboz owns u

[compact knot]

^

[clever belfry]

real loboz build is df

[compact knot]

you could also say its early tww

the burst fury had was stupid

think it might have been higher than df, df had REALLY good trinkets for doing burst though

fated/awakened seasons are crazy fun for parsing

[sullen tendon]

from my experience thus far the hardest parts about pugging dungeons is trying to do Brewery and everytime getting into a group where some hunter or shaman or druid keep dying to simple mechanics cuase they dont have/dont use defensives

[graceful dock]

is the loboz build actually rly bad

how big is the dps loss?

[flat river]

hello fellow warriors

[sullen tendon]

amazing

removed from group mid fight because chain pulling priory paladins and no defensives left and i get smacked for 15m by divine toll + fireball

[sullen dove]

sit dstance

[flat river]

skill issue ngl

[sullen tendon]

You’re right I should run into consecration to interrupt the mage mob instead of dk gripping it

[flat river]

or spell reflect

[modest condor]

skill issue

[dense elbow]

... Nelf would have lived

[dense elbow]

About what 5-10% ST, with an arguable possible gain on AoE. It plays well tho, so is a nice way to get some variance to slayer gameplay

[echo rapids]

How early did you die on that ilvl 681 parse?

[whole yacht]

well considering he finished at almost 2m

not super early

[sullen tendon]

Everything was on cd

[dense elbow]

Even dstance?

[sullen tendon]

This was like heavy 3-4 paladin pull

[dense elbow]

Logs?

[sullen tendon]

Didn’t finish the key

[dense elbow]

Ya can still upload the logs

[sullen tendon]

I just let Warcraft logs run in the background

[dense elbow]

You can manually upload the logs

[sullen tendon]

What’s the average first boss kill time on priory?

For. 17 with lust

[whole yacht]

bros hard avoiding the logs question XD

[dense elbow]

[whole yacht]

dodging linking logs like hes in the matrix

[sullen tendon]

I’m on my phone right now

[whole yacht]

😂

[whole yacht]

im sorry, its just you have something different to say every time

[sullen tendon]

Also why would I press d stance when the dk shouod just be gripping

[whole yacht]

its actually hilarious

[sullen tendon]

The cast shouldn’t go off in the first place

[dense elbow]

I love anyone that go: I could have lived, but I didn't, because I chose not to!

I respect it

[sullen tendon]

I couldn’t have lived

[dense elbow]

[whole yacht]

theres almost always a way you could have lived

[sullen tendon]

It was 0.4 sec divine toll to fireball 15 mil dam with no sr or er up

[whole yacht]

almost

[dense elbow]

15m minus 15% = 12m HP, how much HP do we rock nowadays?

[sullen tendon]

I have 11.5 or so

[dense elbow]

Would be a bit more, no. Cause of enraged 10%

[whole yacht]

rally increases beyond the threshhold needed to live a 12m hit at 11.5m hp

was rally down?

[dense elbow]

So about 11m, you got versa too, so prob 10m ish

[sullen tendon]

Everything was on cd

[dense elbow]

Dstance

[sullen tendon]

That is already being allied during the hit

[whole yacht]

EVERYTHING? all at once?

[dense elbow]

Was on cd

[sullen tendon]

This was a 2-3 min pull back to back with casters and paladins going off

Dk wasn’t using amz entire key as well

[dense elbow]

If only we had logs, so I could calculate the unmitigated hit more easily

[whole yacht]

we could also see WHY he had EVERYTHING on cd

for a 2 minute pull

[sullen tendon]

I hit buttons when my health is red

[whole yacht]

do you just panic and hit EVERYTHING?

[sullen tendon]

No it’s overtime

[dense elbow]

Why not use SR when you know big ding is coming tho?

It is off GCD

[whole yacht]

why are you dipping so low so often? why are you using SR for things other than big ping pong

[sullen tendon]

Because we don’t have infinite spell reflects lol

[whole yacht]

this cant entirely be on everyone else

[sullen tendon]

3 paladins on every pull of the chain pull all casting divine toll every few seconds

[dense elbow]

I feel we knew that since he went "I die, I no use my tool. I should not need to. They should fix. Their fault."

[whole yacht]

if only we had the log you say you have but refuse to upload and link

[sullen tendon]

I am on my phone motherfucjer I don’t have logs on my phone

[whole yacht]

OOOOH hes gettin angy

[dense elbow]

Wonder if he had shockwave ready

[sullen tendon]

Also why would I want to share that now that you people are acting this way

[whole yacht]

possible

[dense elbow]

The plot thiccens

[whole yacht]

acting what way? im asking questions to try to understand why you were "completely out of options so its everyone elses fault"

[sullen tendon]

Shockwave a mob that’s out of shockwave range?

[dense elbow]

Out of.. shockwave range?

[sullen tendon]

You are being condescending and passive aggressive

[whole yacht]

ranged warrior brother

[dense elbow]

Guess they could have filled the whole 360 degrees around the concentration

Could happen

[sullen tendon]

Ok imagine this. Tank is pulling mobs forward out of consecration. The casters are staying in consecration 20yds away.

Dk has grips

Dk doesn’t grip

Die

[dense elbow]

Again, you blame some one else

[sullen tendon]

This is a useless conversation then

[whole yacht]

hey so. fun fact, 1 tick of consecration wont insta kill
dip toe, shockwave, undip toe

[sullen tendon]

Hey so fun fact 1 tick of consecration will bring you to 50-70% health where divine toll will kill you after.

[dense elbow]

We dont care what they could do. We care what you could do

We were supportive till you went: i could do that. But I dont wanna

Their fault!

[whole yacht]

only losing 30% of your health, is 100% worth potentially not wiping.

even losing 50% of your health

is also worth

[sullen tendon]

No it’s losing 100% of your health

Becuse divine toll casts at the same time

You are acting as if consecration is the only damage source going out

[dense elbow]

What does more, 1 tick with dstance up + ding. Or fireball + ding

I put my money on Dstance route

Being da

Choice

[sullen tendon]

Someone died right after me from divine toll as well so it doesn’t matter in the long run

It was either I die or they die

[dense elbow]

[sullen tendon]

It’s all the dks fault anyways

No amz

Case closed

[dense elbow]

But amz wouldn't save you

[sullen tendon]

Your right grip would have saved me

[dense elbow]

But he could only cast one or the other, and you said it was do or die. So he had to push DPS too

[whole yacht]

dude has a vendetta against that dk

[sullen tendon]

I said what?

The Dk didn’t grip and he didn’t put amz down

[dense elbow]

This

[sullen tendon]

I didn’t say the dk died

[dense elbow]

That means the DK had to also try to hit the mandatory check you mentioned

To save everyone

[sullen tendon]

Mandatory check???

[dense elbow]

Do or die is pretty mandatory

[feral ivy]

what lvl is this key btw

[sullen tendon]

He would have saved us if he gripped and he would have saved us if me amzd

17

[dense elbow]

But he could not, as you said if the ding went off, everyone would die. Pala had to die and it was such a tight squeeze that you could not shockwave

He can't use two GCds, if you can't use 1

[sullen tendon]

You’re just making stuff up. I never said everyone would die if divine toll went off

[dense elbow]

Again

[sullen tendon]

You construed they as everyone?

[dense elbow]

Yep, I do

[sullen tendon]

Instead of what I said prior saying someone died right after me?

[dense elbow]

Your story changes a lot

[sullen tendon]

Implying it was me or the other person

[dense elbow]

I keep to the newest edition

[sullen tendon]

.

[dense elbow]

That was the check you mentioned no?

The do or die

[sullen tendon]

That was me saying someone not everyone no?

[dense elbow]

Meaning both you and DK was trying to achieve the same goal

Killing the target before the ding

[sullen tendon]

What are you even talking about

You keep saying ding

Say the ability

[mossy pelican]

Bro dies in zerker stance

[dense elbow]

Bro had to, or DPS loss would equal the ding going off either way, killing they

[sullen tendon]

lol no

You’re saying it’s ok for the dk to not use utility to stop damage going out becusee he had to do dps?

[whole yacht]

"killing they" XD

[dense elbow]

So you could use dstance!

[mossy pelican]

Grip was on cd

[dense elbow]

We won't know

[mossy pelican]

[dense elbow]

No logs

[whole yacht]

THE PLOT THICKENS

[sullen tendon]

Sleet ranged int ghoul anything amz too

[mossy pelican]

All on cd

[dense elbow]

Or ya know

Shockwave

[whole yacht]

shockwave

[feral ivy]

i love this discord

[sullen tendon]

Ah yes shockwave the 20 yard stun

[whole yacht]

we love you too kratoss

[sullen tendon]

Let me do what you say and run into fire to shockwave the far away mob dying as a result

[feral ivy]

how do u get the name color =0

[whole yacht]

boost server

[dense elbow]

But you can hit mobs in concration from 360 degrees around it

There is no way there was pools all around that as well

[sullen tendon]

There are more than 1 consecrate out

There are 3 paladins

[whole yacht]

so tank walked in a cirlce with them?

[sullen tendon]

Along the wall

[mossy pelican]

Consecrate slow ticks just play better

[whole yacht]

damn

[dense elbow]

So your tank purposely circled the concecration

[whole yacht]

urdnot callin it like it is

[dense elbow]

Placing pools to cover all 360 degrees

That is impressive

[sullen tendon]

Ok so now since I can’t run through consecrate according to you I should run around it which would take longer and the cast would still go off

[dense elbow]

Well, you could just leap

[sullen tendon]

Into consecrate?

It still ticks

[whole yacht]

no. if its against the wall, to the side of it

and shockwave into it

[sullen tendon]

Or do could just grip

[dense elbow]

Maybe the mob was at a wall or corner, so he only had 90 degrees

[sullen tendon]

Dk

[whole yacht]

or you could not entirely rely on someone else

[dense elbow]

The thicc plot thiccens

[whole yacht]

expecting them to have what you want them to do available

and you could...

[sullen tendon]

You guys will go to insane lengths to be petty

[whole yacht]

do what you can?

[dense elbow]

I mean, at least use dstance

[whole yacht]

could someone else have played better?>

sure

[sullen tendon]

Fuck no dk shoukd use grip

[whole yacht]

could you? yes

[dense elbow]

I am kinda baffled that is your attitude

[whole yacht]

you cant blame someone else if you didnt do what you had available.

you are just as responsible

[sullen tendon]

You guys are awful

[dense elbow]

"I rather die" is such a bad take

[whole yacht]

you came here to complain about being kicked from a group for not doing what you could to prevent deaths

[sullen tendon]

What would I expect from a class discord other than pettiness and trolling

[whole yacht]

and we didnt agree

now youre mad

interesting

[dense elbow]

Now you attack the discord

[hollow glen]

lol dude who came to vent is now crashing out is wild

[sullen tendon]

The run was over the group leader was just removing people out of rage

[whole yacht]

did i say something incorrectly?

you got kicked

you came here to bitch

and cry

we disagreed

[sullen tendon]

Mainly the people who talk to most here and are toxic

[whole yacht]

you angy

am i missing anything?

[sullen tendon]

It’s the same shit with asking about gear and stuff

[dense elbow]

We toxic, for saying you could do something to change the outcome?

[whole yacht]

i actually answer people with relevant and accurate information when they have a legit question, and arent just here to whine

[sullen tendon]

You’re asking people to play like robots with future sight

[dense elbow]

Noo

[feral ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-guy-relaxing-popcorm-popcorn-gif-26404903

[dense elbow]

We asking you to try to improve

To reflect

To learn

[whole yacht]

to not blame everyone but yourself

[sullen tendon]

Ah yes the 45 casts going off thst dk isn’t gripping I should heroic leap into fire shockwave then try to survive without getting killed

[whole yacht]

"well they should have done this, waaaa" well what could you have done?

no one said INTO the fire

[sullen tendon]

I should have left group when I saw dk not using amz

[whole yacht]

you keep going back to this "into the fire"

[dense elbow]

"i could do something but I rather die, waaaah"

[whole yacht]

does "next to the fire" not exist?

what happened to it?

do we need a search party?

[sullen tendon]

Does warriors are slow exist?

[whole yacht]

does leap exist?

or was that ALSO on cd?

[sullen tendon]

Does divine toll exist?

[whole yacht]

you understand

[dense elbow]

Well, tank had cowered 360 degrees with another layer

[whole yacht]

if youre NEXT TO THE FIRE, and not IN THE FIRE, you dont take a tick right?

[dense elbow]

check out

If only shockwave had 20y or so of range

Oh wait

[whole yacht]

right i forgot

[sullen tendon]

I’ll never admit it’s not the dks fault so stop trying to convince me

[whole yacht]

ill never admit you have anything other than the self accountability of a toddler 😦

[dense elbow]

It was your fault you died, if you could have lived using your tools

[sullen tendon]

Self accountability lol

[mossy pelican]

Just refuse to take divine toll damage

[sullen tendon]

Lmao

It’s my fault I died because dk didn’t grip and use amz

[whole yacht]

regardless of if someone else dindt do something

you also didnt do something

so you are also at fauly

[sullen tendon]

Why even play group content

[whole yacht]

fault*

[sullen tendon]

Only rely on yourself never rely on others to do the job they are designed to do

[whole yacht]

if oven is hot, and i touch it, but someone watched it happen, and didnt say anything, its entirely their fault?

[sullen tendon]

The key was bricked anyways if we had that mentality

[sullen tendon]

What the fuck are you even saying

[dense elbow]

Soon ya gonna blame the leader for not bringing a paladin to give you spellwarding...

That is the route you are going down

Not my fault, someone could have done something. But not me, even when I could!

[mossy pelican]

That’s so crazy if all that happened instead of finding someone to blame I’d just be like “man we didn’t stop that cast that’s crazy” and go back to getting declined

[whole yacht]

you cant even understand an analogy that reflects you blaming others for your own fault?

[sullen tendon]

Paladin would have dr stunned the mob anyways if it want already

[dense elbow]

Now the mob also have Stun DR

This soup so thicc it is a solid now

[whole yacht]

new developement!

my god this is getting intricate

[sullen tendon]

So basically this is a never ending cycle. You’re never going to convince me it was my fault and I’m never going to convince you it wasn’t my fault.

[sullen tendon]

I said if it wasn’t already

[dense elbow]

Cause you are in the wrong

[whole yacht]

i literally said you are BOTH at fault, and you refuse to even accept that

[dense elbow]

And your story keeps getting more and more wild

To protect your ego

It is hilarious

[feral ivy]

if you cant admit u did something wrong as well the other guy.. thats a problem not only in game but outside as well

[dense elbow]

[sullen tendon]

Ok. Let’s say I do what you says. The mob starts casting again with divine told about to go off and dk doesn’t grip? What then?

[whole yacht]

you refuse to acknowledge your own mistake and choose to only focus on someone else.

[dense elbow]

Now what if he would grip 2nd?

Then all you say now

Is for naught

[sullen tendon]

It’s not about admitting you’re wrong it’s that the dk had utility in his arsenal to eliminate the problem entirely and he didn’t

[sullen tendon]

There was no mistake

[whole yacht]

what if his grip was 1 second from being off cd for the first cast, and the 2nd cast he would have gotten.

[sullen tendon]

Dk didn’t grip the mob I and another person got combod by divine toll

[whole yacht]

there literally was, and more than myself have pointed it out. your refusal to see it is not my problem.

[feral ivy]

from what im briefly reading is lets say you are right in EVERYTHING about this DK, pally.. did u did EVERYTHIGN that you could've??

[sullen tendon]

I am doing everything a warrior should. The dk was not doing everything the dk should.

[dense elbow]

No, he knows he could do things

He said he don't want to

Cause DK should

[shrewd sequoia]

Damn this really been going on for 2 hours huh?

[whole yacht]

everything a wariror should?

[sullen tendon]

Hindsight is easy to criticize

[whole yacht]

ive leaped to shockwave before

why cant you

[whole yacht]

so youre admitting there IS something to criticize?

so you did something wrong.

[dense elbow]

We don't care what you did, we far beyond that point. We want you to understand that you could and should so better

[sullen tendon]

If we’re doing hypotheticals let’s say I had those available and did those then the mage casts another fire ball anyways and kills me or someone else

Still in consecration

Cause dks didn’t grip

[dense elbow]

You are the one headcannoning this DK and tank sabotaging you

[whole yacht]

"lets say i had those available" you literally told us you had shockwave and leap, but didnt want to use them "cuz dk should grip"

[sullen tendon]

You are head cannoning what I did lol

[dense elbow]

This is what you told us

[sullen tendon]

You said I should have

This was like 3 hours ago

You think I remember if heroic leap or sw were on or off cd

Or if the mob was drd

I remember the main details

[dense elbow]

You made it so many layers, we gone from "I couldn't reach to interrupt" to 'the whole room around it at all angles was on fire" to " the mob was on stun DR"

Come on man

[sullen tendon]

You said that lol

[whole yacht]

no you did

[sullen tendon]

I said there were multiple consecrates out

[whole yacht]

you said the mob was impossible to reach

[dense elbow]

Yep

[whole yacht]

the only way the mob is impossible to reach is if its entirely surrounded

[dense elbow]

Or in a corner

We give you that

[sullen tendon]

.

[whole yacht]

but if it was in a corner shockwave would reach 🙂

cuz shockwave is the length of the consecrate im 99% sure

[dense elbow]

Worst case you would only need to reach half

[sullen tendon]

I don’t even know if it was on cd or not

[dense elbow]

[sullen tendon]

You guys are just building this shit in your head

[whole yacht]

so you know SR was, but not if one of your only stuns is?

[dense elbow]

Now it is not even on CD, dios mio

[vague tapir]

@sullen tendon do you play EU or NA?

[whole yacht]

i personally keep track of my stuns

[dense elbow]

So the mob is stub immune, and your wave is on CD

[whole yacht]

you know

so i can stun

[sullen tendon]

Stuns are less. Important than defensive in my mind so I don’t keep track of their cd

[whole yacht]

WILD

[dense elbow]

[sullen tendon]

Wild I know

[whole yacht]

stun isnt important

good to know

ill stop using mine

[dense elbow]

If only you used your defencive

[sullen tendon]

Something that helps you survive vs something that might help you survive

[sullen tendon]

Distance wouldn’t matter

[whole yacht]

hey so real quick

if you dont have those "something that help you survive"

why would you not use the "might"

ya know

just to be safe

why would you not want to know when you CAN use it, ya know, just to be safe

[dense elbow]

Cause he had to DPS or they die

[sullen tendon]

Because it “might” be on cd and the mob “might” be casting at the same time the paladin “might” be casting divine toll

[whole yacht]

lmao

the fact you just even admitted you dont track an important cd, albeit not the MOST important.

[mossy pelican]

I don’t think bro was in a key to begin with he just wanted to say some bullshit

[whole yacht]

tells me EVERYTHING i need to know

[mossy pelican]

We’ve all been trolled

[dense elbow]

If you used stance or if you shockwaved, you would live.

Just accept that

You chose to die

[sullen tendon]

The smugness tells me everything I need to know

[dense elbow]

To spite the DK

[whole yacht]

i believe he was in a key

but maybe like a 12

[dense elbow]

I believe it was a 17

[whole yacht]

since he doesnt track his cds, and he doesnt properly utilize dstance

[sullen tendon]

I use d stance when I know big stuff is coming I’m not gonna use it when I’m expecting amz or grip

[whole yacht]

but you knew big stuff was coming?

"toll coming"

[dense elbow]

... And that wasn't big stuff?

[whole yacht]

"no cds"

[sullen tendon]

Toll is always coming

I was at 100% health

[whole yacht]

"nah not dstance worthy even tho it doesnt have a cd and is only a minor, temporary, dps loss"

[dense elbow]

Off GCD even

[sullen tendon]

Your smugness knows no bounds

[whole yacht]

your ignorance and childish nature knows no bounds.

[dense elbow]

Well, you deserve it, for your attitude

[sullen tendon]

You understand this is a immovable object vs unstoppable force scenario right

[whole yacht]

you understand you do not look good right? youre not cool, youre not special. you just look like a fool

[sullen tendon]

We will never agree

[dense elbow]

Not really, no. As the plenium agree with us

[sullen tendon]

But you don’t need to keep exuding your “I know better” smugness during the whole convo trying to lord over people

[dense elbow]

You even went full "this place is toxic"

[whole yacht]

you have literally no one defending you, and refuse to admit youre wrong.

it has nothing to do with "i know better"

everyone talking, is saying the same thing i am

[sullen tendon]

So what you are saying is never rely on anyone else and only think of your own survivabilty

Got it

I’ll make sure to dr stun every cast from now on

[mossy pelican]

Yea kinda

[dense elbow]

All ya needed to do, was say 'oh, didn't think about that', instead of "I chose to die"

[whole yacht]

never ASSUME someone in a pug will do something

you cannot be real

[sullen tendon]

Everyone is 2 people

You and the other guy who never stop talking here

[whole yacht]

sorry urdnot you dont exist 😦

[dense elbow]

With the 3-4 ppl coming in, yep yep

[sullen tendon]

Well they are really just bystanders in this

You have been participating

I’ve been talking to you

[whole yacht]

i dont talk here nearly as often as a majority of the people youll see talk

i talk maybe 2-3 times a day, if that.

never this much

so "never stop talking here" is interesting

[sullen tendon]

I wonder if other discords are like this

[whole yacht]

hey go find out. give them the same scenario and show us what they say

[dense elbow]

I dunno, why don't you go and find out

[sullen tendon]

Cause it probably is

[whole yacht]

"all class discords are trash and toxic" incoming

[sullen tendon]

It’s just wow as a whole and you have to deal with it

[dense elbow]

Cause everyone agrees, you are wrong

And you know it

[sullen tendon]

Again you are godly and the only ones talking about it

[whole yacht]

anyways, i gotta go do some stuff, get em funky

[sullen tendon]

And it’s just cause you guys constantly talk on here and lord over others

[dense elbow]

I am good, been fun 😊

But a lost cause is lost

[feral ivy]

imma ask u this.. if u go into heroic raid or normal pug do u expect them to know every mechanic and DO it

[whole yacht]

again, i dont constantly talk here, so i wanna know who else has my name

[dense elbow]

He meant Kratoss, smh Lemon 🍋

[whole yacht]

he named me tho 🤔

is he confused?

[dense elbow]

Very

[sullen tendon]

There are just a few people in every wow related place thet love to lord over people as if they are the epitome of players and it’s not fun

[whole yacht]

i havent lorded over anyone

you are wrong

you wont admit youre wrong

[sullen tendon]

Ok

[whole yacht]

its funny to make you angy

[sullen tendon]

Ok

You done?

[whole yacht]

are you?

[sullen tendon]

Ok

[dense elbow]

Nah, he never done

[feral ivy]

im sorry but if u come into a class discord and ask a question or make a statement you will get a response you cant get mad if its not to ur liking

[whole yacht]

^^

anyways, cya funky, gotta go drive

[dense elbow]

[sullen tendon]

It’s more of just a thing like “damn it rained today” and people are like well why didn’t you wear a coat huh?

Instead of just saying “that sucks”

Convoluted interrogations to try to prove you’re a better player

[dense elbow]

Nah, this is a "I could use my umbrella, but the other guy didn't pop his, so I got wet!"

[feral ivy]

in this scenerio its more like "damn i got wet" and our response is "did u look outside before u went or got an umbrella once u saw it dark and gloomy

[sullen tendon]

It started raining after I went outside

[feral ivy]

weather check

[dense elbow]

And so the story starts to change

To save your narrative

[sullen tendon]

I forgot my phone

[feral ivy]

and whos fault is this?

[dense elbow]

The DK

[whole yacht]

THE DK

[sullen tendon]

Tim Cook

[dense elbow]

[feral ivy]

LOL

[whole yacht]

sorry saw the messages before i walked out the door

couldnt resist

[sullen tendon]

The dk spent his grip on my umbrella and didn’t have it for the mob

[dense elbow]

If only you could use dstance

[feral ivy]

had to grab water becasue couldnt stop coughing lol

[dense elbow]

[sullen tendon]

I didn’t talent into it

[dense elbow]

So the story keeps spinning

[sullen tendon]

I didn’t use whirlwind

[vague sierra]

Didn't dodge the water, skill issue tbh

[hollow glen]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-over-it's-so-over-its-over-its-so-over-we're-back-gif-16588749771587271250

[dense elbow]

Sadly we hardstuck at 9:45

[red berry]

i think they should buff whirlwind 130% again

[modest condor]

same

[eternal sundial]

Almost out of leveling jail, then gear and prof and golfarm jail ye

[undone flower]

Maybe if I rephrase more gently than my comrades : you are focusing on that mf dk, they ask you could you have done smth ? You said everything is on cd (you describe planetary alignement that happens each 2000 years when you say that) which creates doubt about truth of the descriptions, bc at the end if you could have done something, it is as your « fault » as dk’s, shifting blame -> loser bad circle, even a situation you can prevent by typing /p = your fault it happened for example

And on the shockwave thing / you are in warrior discord, we all have shockwave, we all do priory, so your comments shows a bad faith when everyone here knows you hit the entire consecration with a shockwave

[modest condor]

it's pretty easy to point at someone else but there's always something you could have done better to avoid the death

[undone flower]

And I saw bl question in the mix somewhere, idk in my mind you want to bl first paladin pull = you are late if you have bl cd on the boss / long time I didn’t push tho

[modest condor]

why worry about shockwave range when you can just storm bolt

[sinful spoke]

i aint readin allat

[undone flower]

Ask chatgpt to read

[sinful spoke]

n

can u type it in spanish

[noble elm]

Bruh wat

Is this

lol

[undone flower]

I know

I’ve read this 2 hours debate while eating my breakfast croissant

[slim coral]

who's ready for 11.2 reveal

[sinful spoke]

cant wait to fight dimensius

[undone flower]

Can’t wait next tier set to save us

[pearl sequoia]

whens dis

[sullen dove]

historically accurate statement

war a dumpster fire last xpac till season 3 peak

history will repeat itself they will be cooking

and also reverting RA and titans torment

absolute shit stain talents currently

[quartz pumice]

Thought I was reading Chinese,but it's just fury channel.

[red berry]

i really do hope they make some nice changes for the spec

and we'll see soon i hope

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-you-have-alerted-the-horse-alert-alert-horse-horse-alert-gif-10675569724654458517

[junior gale]

Morgan Day mentioned how bad warrior tier has been I suspect some heavy ultra cooking for next tier

if its another shit tier set its gg

[slim coral]

https://tenor.com/view/jimmy-neutron-cope-jimmy-neutron-cope-cope-lol-cope-and-seethe-gif-25698067

[undone flower]

The spec is already nice

[sullen dove]

whatever they do like 80% sure gonna have to make RA the go to again

That’s like their whole bit with this dogshit spec

[junior gale]

as long as they revert RA first

[sullen dove]

literally for the last like 8 tiers one season AM is best the next RA is best

yea I mean idk if they don’t revert it they’d have to make those abilities like omega cook

each one should cast like 2 extra onslaughts per button press or something

show you a real burst cd window

[junior gale]

BB always gives you a reap proc or TB proc

and do something for CB

[sullen dove]

Holy

[undone flower]

Stop cooking, I’m full

[sullen dove]

that kinda goes hard actually tho i would think that’d make more sense to be put in each hero talent tree

[junior gale]

yeah a reap proc on every BB cast would be some sick burst

[sullen dove]

or i mean idk maybe just a conditional “if you have thunder blast/reap learned” or something under RA

[undone flower]

And you can double SS stack by CB

[sullen dove]

also sounds cool

Each cb gives you 5 SS

giga rampage giga raging blow giga bt

[junior gale]

im waiting for them to cook with slayer arms and make WW work with Reap

[slim coral]

they gotta fix it for m+ ngl

kinda dumb can't play half the content I wanna play cause it takes an hour

[red berry]

all i have is cope. is hope in such a world so foolish. can i not have childlike wonder for what could be. is there no joy in possibility. its okay to try to fly into the sun even if you crash into the ocean

[undone flower]

It takes an hour mostly bc you are a dps no ?

[slim coral]

nah I go on my dk it takes like 2 minutes

[undone flower]

For the same keys / with same Rio

[slim coral]

no one wants a 5 target capped spec

ye 17s+

[undone flower]

I don’t play dps in keys so im lil bit disconnected on that front

[sullen dove]

just play arms ez

[slim coral]

I do it just feels awful

[tepid cedar]

lol kind of crazy. Was doing some 17 cinder burst pulls to see some things.

I think I got to like 13-16 mil on fury . Swapped to arms with no crit items. And boom 24-30 mill burst. Made the fucking pull soooooo much easier and easier on tank and healer

What are hunters dk and boomies bursting cinders opening pull for now?

[slim coral]

dk does about 40 mil

[south kayak]

MoP is dumb in terms of profession, always between 3 on each class

Blacksmithing, engineering or tailoring for pve

[south kayak]

Please forego RB or CB giving SS

BT should do that imo

Or just remove it

[compact knot]

pretty sure on patch release you want inscription

save A LOT of gold with DMF card

and possibly make a lot

then go BM + ENGI

[south kayak]

Hmm

Why inscription

[compact knot]

we have a bit before raid releases

[south kayak]

I hate that I have to do all the old expansion professions just to get to the current one

[compact knot]

might as well go inscription and save (and possibly make) gold

[radiant plank]

dmf cards are very stron

[compact knot]

leveling BM again isnt that bad

[slim coral]

you dont

[radiant plank]

for pre bis

so you print money

[compact knot]

yeah

[south kayak]

You do for mop?

[silk wharf]

Sort of except you get to skip over the hardest points at the end of the previous expansions recipes with the new ones starters.

[radiant plank]

and then engi + bm is bis for the glove active + gems

[compact knot]

some DMF cards are still bis/3rd bis for casters right now

[slim coral]

oh didn't know you were talking about mop my fault

[compact knot]

i think

in cata

[radiant plank]

yteah volcano was it

[compact knot]

volcano

[south kayak]

How do we know it’s the same with mop

[radiant plank]

going for like 50k since cata release

[south kayak]

Inscription is done with herb right

[compact knot]

i promise you relic of xuen is going to be the strongest pre bis trinket

easily

[south kayak]

Oh okay

Bet

Is it gonna be hard to craft those

[compact knot]

i dont think its that bad

[south kayak]

Idk how you obtain card mats

[compact knot]

i think relic of xuen is actually also p1 bis

so getting it fast will be nice

[silk wharf]

I think the only thing that replaced it, if memory serves, was the world epic drop. Which was ultra expensive.

[compact knot]

there are 32 random cards you can make, 8 cards per deck (melee dps, caster dps, healer, tank decks, its 10 starlight ink (inscription/herbalism) 1 scroll of wisdom (inscription/herbalism) and 1 light parchment (vendor) per card

they arent hard to craft, but if your unlucky it can become quite expensive, though at the start of the expansion you will guranteed get your gold back if you just put the ones you dont need on the auction house

alternatively you can just keep them, then turn them in when DMF happens and then sell the actual items on the auction house instead and make a shit ton of gold

[south kayak]

Ok thanks

[compact knot]

np

[south kayak]

What are you gonna play

[compact knot]

warrior

[south kayak]

Did you see the buffs fury got

Especially the enrage one

[compact knot]

i saw the fury ones yeah

might put them close to arms on ST, arms is still king in aoe though

[south kayak]

According to sims, fury will overtake arms on pure st with bis

[compact knot]

atleast for p1

i dont trust the sims

this phase fury with a bis prepull set sims equal to bis arms on a 3 min fight, but when i played fury with the bis prepull set it was no where near arms

[south kayak]

This means that fury will be a lot better in tot

[compact knot]

fury will overtake arms for sure

but arms in mop is actually peak

[south kayak]

I don’t know exactly what I’ll play but I am leveling up a troll warlock rn

[compact knot]

ESPECIALLY on aoe, its like the most fun version of aoe arms has ever had

[silk wharf]

Warlocks are broken in mop for sure.

[compact knot]

i full cleared the sod raid so im getting a free 85 character, going to boost it for my warlock

[south kayak]

Arms aoe is probably the best in the game but it’s pointless since there’s no m+ lol

[silk wharf]

Sac pact just solos entire mechanics.

[south kayak]

At least there are aoe bosses

It’s not that common though

[compact knot]

wind lord meljarak looks like the most fun boss ever ngl

mass aoe, 600% damage amp

i saw a prot warrior doing like 2m dps on that boss lol

[south kayak]

I also like hunters so there’s a lot of classes I wanna play

Especially survival hunter

[eternal sundial]

Apparently living steel craft from alch will be banger

[hardy cargo]

Ive got 5 inscription characters and my main is alch

maybe I do 2nd prof alch on all those inscription chars

[bitter palm]

gta washington wgat it is

[eternal sundial]

Do you know if I want engi for dps if i need to do classic >tbc>cata>mop levels of it

[hardy cargo]

You gotta level all profs from level 1 yeah

I think it’s in WOD they separate it by expansion

It is probably relatively cheap though? I think I was leveling inscription from 1-525 for like

5k

And that was doing expensive crafts beyond 500, if I was patient I would’ve only spent like 3500

[eternal sundial]

So im broke atm cuz flying

Isnt there some dailies u do for money or so

I recall smth about 500g/d type shit

[red berry]

wq. weeklys.

the chests can give 1k-16k or even more. just gootta get really lucky. often you'll get 1-3k

[sour frigate]

He plays classic

🤓

[bitter palm]

downfall needs to be studied

from philiarms to classic

[summer quail]

look at jugg highrolling, that is all

[bitter palm]

@eternal sundial did u even play this season i forgor

ye u played early i remember when we rolled 100 on tier in a pug

goat shit

[eternal sundial]

Retail no

[red berry]

oh

😭

my bad, sorry

[eternal sundial]

Fuck retail dawg

In retail Gold is easy

Go discord

Boost scrubs

Money

[bitter palm]

fym no we did those pugs cro

[eternal sundial]

I mean ye we did

[bitter palm]

one week of playing

xdd

[eternal sundial]

No ion play no morw

Was good week vro

Got u ur set

Bro i had

4x HC set

Week 2

Normal bis

Complete FREAK

[bitter palm]

was insane

i couldnt get a 2h for ages

then i got it and quit xdd

i got myth 1h crafted a shield was cracked for prot then quit

[eternal sundial]

I didnt craft anything cuz cba

I could reinstall but the effort feels not worth

Cuz im not raiding and i dont like keys

[hardy cargo]

Too borad and firelands dailies

[eternal sundial]

Tol is good for gear too iirc

[hardy cargo]

Tol

Uhhh not rlly

It was in s1

[eternal sundial]

Catchup surely

Cuz its piss

[summer quail]

don't do it. arms has never felt this bad before

[hardy cargo]

But now you can just do some dungeons and get a 390 gurthalak which is light years ahead of the 346 wep u get from that rep

[eternal sundial]

I played start off ssn, doubt gear fixes it

[summer quail]

exactly. just wait til next expansion and hope they fix, maybe next patch if on big copium

[eternal sundial]

Fated likely or legion remix

Fated for mount (maybe)

[jolly marten]

Warrior representation tends to be based on which spec is doing better in Mythic+ at the moment. They believe the class does bring decent amount of tools, but that the meta tends to focus more on casters; leading to debates on what kind of cool utility they could give to a Warrior - Battle Rezzing would be kind of hilarious, but it's something the team has been thinking about looking forward to Season 3. Tier sets have also had an interesting impact on tuning, as sometimes an abnormally strong or weak tier set upsets balance, despite the core class being fine.

They believe the class does bring decent amount of tools
They believe the class does bring decent amount of tools
They believe the class does bring decent amount of tools
They believe the class does bring decent amount of tools
They believe the class does bring decent amount of tools
They believe the class does bring decent amount of tools

WHAT TOOLS?

Warriors bring battle shout and dmg... period 😄

[undone flower]

If you talk about all warrior specs, prot is lil crazy on that front

1min30 mass kick in mass kick meta world, 20sec cd shockwave bump

Shockwave bump is colossus hero, so arms has it too I guess (it is strong bc 20 sec cd)

[silent aurora]

where did you read that ?

[jolly marten]

i did a little search in raider IO. last time Prot warrior was meta was BFA season 2.. Do you want to know how many times i found a prot pala or a VDH top pick in high keys while i was searching?

[jolly marten]

wowhead

[remote bobcat]

Spell reflect
knock up if prot/arms
crazy survivability

[summer quail]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/morgan-day-talks-dps-rankings-with-chinese-dps-competition-commentary-and-q-a-377263?utm_source=discord-webhook

[silent aurora]

ty

[silent aurora]

was a talk in my guild recently where we checked what tank was meta each season since bfa s1 in % of played overall and war prot was 2 time meta it seem and could have been 4 time if he didn't get deleted by .5 buff pal prot like s1 df and tww

[jolly marten]

crazy tool.. personal spell reflect while it doesnt reflects half of the spells to be fair

[remote bobcat]

motherlode last boss you spell reflect for dummy damage, guaranteed

[cerulean quiver]

no lust (which would be perfect for warrior), no brez immediately knocks us down a few pegs

[jolly marten]

thats a niche.. Shamans bring tools we cant even imagine to have

[remote bobcat]

a niche tool is a tool nonetheless.

[jolly marten]

monks, mages, druids

hell even priests bring more than a warrior

[cerulean quiver]

anything warrior does any other class can do, most of them better, and without aoe caps

[jolly marten]

they gave paladins brez and not warriors....

[silent aurora]

we got more CC than a lot of dps spec i think but they aren't op and even our fear is capped target xD

[jolly marten]

it feels awesome to press rallying cry in dungeons and do litteraly nothing

[cerulean quiver]

i could live without brez, but why nor turn rally cry into actual rally (lust) and make a new ability called raise morale or some shioz for hp+

[jolly marten]

no we dont mate

try a Evoker

[south kayak]

The only professions u can just pick for mop immediately without doing anything are the gathering ones like herbalism

[silent aurora]

ret, spriest, 3 spec of hunt ( not sure at 100%), 3 spec of warlock are probably less good than us in pure CC

we are average

[jolly marten]

hunter have crazy cc.. traps and knockbacks and stuns

[south kayak]

Utility isn't the issue, it's tuning

[lime egret]

I've just swapped from Enh for next season and I'm struggling to adjust w/o all my stops

[south kayak]

If you do great damage, the comp just plays around you

if fury did Unholy tier damage

[silent aurora]

yeah shaman is really good at cc one of the best

[south kayak]

it would be meta

no contest

[jolly marten]

for that i agree

[silent aurora]

rogue are good at cc or not ?

[jolly marten]

but still give us something at least to feel usefull... the statement that we have decent tools it outrages me.. they are far away from the reality

[jolly marten]

it depends.. to you count the aoe silence of assa rogue as a cc?

[south kayak]

their CC in PvP is insane but for PvE it isn't that good, they have to sacrifice damage to use combo points on kidney shot

the only thing they have is aoe blind stops

[silent aurora]

we got the fear cleans or the throw that break some immunity but it's so niche

[jolly marten]

thats a minor you kindey with 1 point you dont need to have full points

[silent aurora]

useless cause no mob use those mecanic

[cerulean quiver]

havent pressed fear cleanse once this season

[south kayak]

that's pretty bad with stun dr

it's basically pointless

[silent aurora]

for assa yes so it may be the only good rogue at cc

[south kayak]

yeah assa is the only good one tbh

[jolly marten]

😄 i have cause i play with bad players and the miss interupts

[south kayak]

because of the silence from garrote

and the damage reduction the mobs deal while silenced with it

[cerulean quiver]

w8 isnt there only like candle king and darkness that does fear?

what else?

[silent aurora]

fear cleans was good on tirna for season 1 but shaman was meta xD

[jolly marten]

yeah that i am reffering too

[south kayak]

darkness and candle king both fear if you made mistakes

that shouldn't happen ideally

there's no way you can't interrupt the candle fear

unless the group is dumb

[cerulean quiver]

so yh, basically useless button

we have talent cleanse thats on a 3 min cd (???)

[jolly marten]

no we dont do this here.. we say a decent tool 😄

[south kayak]

Yeah, unless there's an actual boss or pack that actually fears without any easy way to get rid of it, that ability is useless

and they're also not going to introduce any

if there's only 1 or 2 specs that can dispel it

that's asking for a bad time

[silent aurora]

shaman or war or team of undead xD

[jolly marten]

our dmg profile is quite faqed up since season 1.. we launched as an uber upfront burst profile and since then they cant balance this thing...

they hardcapped fury and even in 5 targets it falls off

[silent aurora]

you just need to look at our warrior tree to see we have the most number of damage node of every class in the game i think when they try to delete these for other class

[south kayak]

either the cds do a lot of damage with 5 target caps, or they don't and we're soft capped

those are the only ways

[cerulean quiver]

or ur a dk who has big dmg and no caps

[jolly marten]

or a retri paladin

[south kayak]

they are soft capped but yeah

[fading sky]

Issue is of just is bad

And roar

[cerulean quiver]

id prefer soft caps honestly coz feels better to hit all targets even if it's less dmg. this way i just look a cind first pull 100 mobs and im hitting 5

[fading sky]

True but. If i can fuck big targets up properly

[jolly marten]

they dont seem to understand what is wrong with fury and with warriors generally.. thats what makes me thing of dropping warrior at all.. they seem to buff and nerf meaningfull other specs while in warriors is either super nerfs or irrelevant buffs (hello 100% increase to WW)

[fading sky]

Thats way more valueable

[south kayak]

those are relevant buffs though, the WW one especially

I think they know what's wrong with warriors

no chance they don't

[fading sky]

Of = bad dmg profile = flat

That is our main m+ concern imho

[south kayak]

It's not something that can be fixed during a patch

they won't just make our cleave soft capped in the middle of the patch

that's not how it works

[fading sky]

They could buff meat cleaver abbit

[cerulean quiver]

i mean true but after how many xpacs of other classes losing caps do I start losing hope

[south kayak]

this is something that needs it's own testing cycle

or a new patch rework

doesn't have to be full, just a few abilities

[fading sky]

Mm hunter rework was mid patch?

Now it fucks?

[south kayak]

It was in an .5 patch

that makes sense

[jolly marten]

well i can argue that mages-paladins and other classes dont wait that much to change them

[south kayak]

not just weekly tuning patch like we're talking about here

[fading sky]

Hmm fuck true

Well 0.7 they could buff roar + of decently

[south kayak]

and MM went through a couple of tweaks before going live

[fading sky]

With little to no raid significance

A full rework is midnight

[eternal sundial]

I need the dps ones so

Xd

[south kayak]

no such luck

games cooked

imagine having to do professions from 4 expansions

just to get to current one

[silent aurora]

the "war" within was a good expac for war rework xD

[jolly marten]

imho they see warriors as a balance class spec and thats a problem

[silent aurora]

at least we got 10% stamina free in our class tree

[flat river]

bro TWW has no content