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Hey If I have an on use trinket and BIS weapon, i use trinket on pull and BIS on second recklessness?
yeh
Thank yoou
i am
i jsut thought about it. on dummies though ur always in vicious contempt
you're not talking about that build that just drops all RB talents and presses BT on cd?
vicious contempt doesnt affect crit chance
it does in execute
cause then ur using it once it hits 40%
oh yeah ur right
so that makes sense why the % on bt was so low. since i was in execute for lietreally 10 min
that's the raid build
isnt that just the standard slayer m+ build
not sure. what funky said he min maxed weeeeeeeks ago
it doesnt increase att power it increases physical damage and stormstrike is really the only physical damage that they do. Everything else is a mix of elemental fire/lava and lightning
*nature
going of that, do u think execute BT would benefit more going and using it at minimum 50%
what do you mean?
instead of 40%, wait til 50%
idk ive never simmed 1 point VC
i highly doubt it makes a big difference whether you decide to use it at 40 or 50% crit chance. prob extremely minor optimization either way
but you would probably want to go for higher crit chance then yeah
well even with 2 pts
ima do a custom sim, but unless im bnlind
where the fuckl is the condition for 40%
actions.slayer+=/bloodthirst,if=buff.bloodcraze.stack>=4|crit_pct_current>=85 i see this
no
i dont think so
cause ur looking for something with this crit_pct_current>=40
actions.slayer+=/bloodthirst,if=(target.health.pct<35&talent.vicious_contempt&buff.bloodcraze.stack>=2)|active_enemies>2
theres this
but there no >40% crit
is lock n stock hit every 20 seconds?
found the line
its based of bloodcarze
actions.slayer+=/bloodthirst,if=(target.health.pct<35&talent.vicious_contempt&buff.bloodcraze.stack>=2)|active_enemies>2
so my assumptions were right
we can get more DPS
got myself some good numbers for CB
this is the current APL. in execute, with 2 bloodcraze stacks.
with 3 blood craze stacks
Fellas question I'm 675 and in 3 mins on the dummies is 1b and 5.95m is that ok dps ?
what kind of sims are these?
4 bloodcraze basicaly changes nothing
XD
its hard to tell on dumies. but do a dummy sim and in game remove al ur buffs and bshout
and see if ur semi close to it. i dont think dummy sim accounts for the crazy excute time u get in real lifew
BIS goes crazy
ez
hoooly colors
500k behind every hunter 
If only I got PI surely I win
@tidal kindle
is this a good prot warrior overall guys (lfr gallywix)
Needs more raging blow I think
What does Thane opener look like against a single target?
should be reck -> charge -> ava + ravager -> rampage -> roar -> thunder blast -> (normal rotation)
You can also generally check the sim for opener things like this:
Cool ty
Looks like sim does thunder blast before roar, probably to avoid the unhinged bt proccing another thunder blast and wasting a charge
it's the same on the wowhead opener too. I think it's for the reason you said too. Though rampage after ravager is dif.
oh I literally just scrolled up and saw it was posted
lol
@winter shoal does rampage not increase rav dam?
ravagers damage ticks update with your buffs so you basically lose nothing for a gcd. also the main benefit of ravager is its Auto casting BTs not the damage the ability does itself which is why you cast it then rampage to become enraged. so the bt casts are amplified

I knew enrage effected the bts but I figured you just wanted to enrage immediately so the ticks did more too
the other effect is Thane runs Anger managment. so you will desync Ravager/Reck if you rampage before casting rav
Progging M OAB, seems like folks are prioritizing bloodthirst over raging blow. Not even using RB after bladestorm (ignoring slaughtering strikes). Is there a reason for this?
Or just the logs I've looked at? I end up with a lot more RBs and lowr dmg
BT is prio over RB on 2+ targets as slayer
So if you're cleaving off a reel assistant, you should be using BT > RB
Reap procs very powerful
Dang, that's it thanks. Noticed my whirlwind buff time was low as well, so that plus more BT should get me back in the game
just so used to not hitting BT until the WA says i'm at 100% crit
uhhh if you're waiting for 100% crit you're probably underusing BT anyways
Should be 85% crit above VC range and 35% inside VC range
if i'm hitting OAB and an add is below 35% that I hit with BT from WW, does VC work? or do I need to target the add?
it works
awesome thanks
while probably still true, the WA I use adds in the base crit + talents off the top. In VC range, Probably not. I need to watch that better
It works in the sense that the cleaved BT benefits from VC, but the one on your main target still doesn't. It's checked per target
Well there are a bunch of other things that can affect it - reck, tier set procs, trinket procs, alchemical chaos flask, etc
That's good to know, I need to make sure I track that. I have a hard time seing the assistants hp as it is. Hence part of why i dont WW enough
The weakaura here is what most people use for tracking BT crit, it has a sound and glow built in for 85/35% crit checks #1237307732705415228 message
Hmm, mine is 3% off lol

I thought I knew the answer but why 85 and 35?
Because that's what the robot said
FWIW I think in VC range, everything from 30-70 was pretty much the same so Archi just picked one
Bc someone tried with different numbers
Like how do they know RB > BT (without crit amp), someone simmed with BT>RB, and saw it does less damage
nice name colors brother

I mean that's fair, just oddly specific.
i'll hit the glowy buttons when the theorycrafters say so
Rampage above 100 rage isn’t oddly specific too ?
Or holding BS if reck within 18s
That one actually changed from 24 to 18s with the BS buff for similar reasons (robot said so)
Or smashing RB after bladestorm even tho you certainly have max rage
And I think it’s until 4 stack the number you can rampage, even tho it can go to 5
Well you RB if you have <5, which would put you at 5
But that basically never happens bc rampage to refresh enrage is still higher prio
For sim u run it 3 mins or 5 mins ?
5 mins is standard
Ok ty
You might want to run different fight lengths if you're progging a boss and expect it to be longer/shorter though
Like Gally is a 7-8 minute fight
Ok thanks friend
🫡
Told ya it is solid, problem is and remains tho: No Odyn's Fury 
And you rampage >= 4 (above RB until 5 in the apl)
But I still go for the 5 if I can bc BIG
Is it just m+ slayer without of?
Wait you're so right
Me when there's a minor redundancy in the APl
Btw I know it’s on the low side but today I:
A. finally broke 4m overall on a dungeon
B. Hit 3.1k io

It’s the small things
hop on loboz build, finishing with 5mil overall
Yeah it’s few things I noticed, like the !buff enrage | on the same line, I’m no coder so idk what it means
That kinda sums it up. I would probably just rephrase it to: Slayer without the handicap of OF 
Gz on the 4m. The beauty of Fury is how consistent it is, so you now a 4m bro till the end of time
I love loboz build, but I barely ever get to 4m overall. I’ve been running my mt build with of lol
You in the 4m club now
Is it just the default slayer build on wowhead or does it have funkykitty changes? 
Also that 4m overall was probably the smoothest psf I’ve had. I took a chance using an augment rune and never died
Not sure, never followed the wowhead build for Slayer 
I presume the optimised one is basically just the same as the WoWhead one. Then I got different builds with degrees of scuff.
| means "or", although I think there's some nuance to how the syntax is interpreted by simc. I was discussing with silm a couple weeks ago if you're interested #fury message
Yeah I was in doubt with or and AND, and !buff enrage is if no enrage ?
?
so
actions.slayer+=/rampage,if=!buff.enrage.up|buff.slaughtering_strikes.stack>=4
means "use rampage if the enrage buff is not up, or if SS is >= 4 stacks"
!buff.up means the buff isn't active, yes
! means not
I think I pressed some unenraged RB for SS before this day 
It starts to get much more tricky with lines like
actions.slayer+=/raging_blow,if=buff.brutal_finish.up&buff.slaughtering_strikes.stack<5&(!debuff.champions_might.up|debuff.champions_might.up&debuff.champions_might.remains>gcd)
Where the | is inside () and &d with other conditions
Would you rather press unenraged RB or eat Mozzarella?
I think Xan said this is sometimes correct but was removed from the APL because it's really cringe idk
#fury message basically me and apo talking about it, ya will find most there if I remember correctly.
I think I ran the sims on it a long time ago but I can't be bothered to stack SS normally anyways most of the time

Yeah I do mostly by accident/ trying to greed the last enraged gcd+SS, it does feel cringe when you get no frenzy enrage gcd
I need to play to notice if I always do it
Anyone here moonlight as a hunter player?
I feel like a fucking idiot
I play fury and somehow can’t grasp bm hunter

A very fancy term, I only play MM on the side. For when I want to deal dam
I just cant wrap my head around their resource management
I understand it, but in practice I fail at it lol
Probably sending barbed shot too often, running dry, is my best guess. But that is prob a quesiton better asked in Trueshot Lodge
True
BOSS DED
grats
ggs
got the mount too W
Woah im jealous
We trialed someone who was very clearly a mount farmer, they looted it and then quit
oof
unlucky
@remote bobcat African or European?
out of context that's a wild @
should have thought about that one but it's your bio
your bio is a monty python quote no?
lmao
Wild @ indeed
That's why I said that after thinking about it lmao
🤝
Solid.
Like a true warrior main I did a thing without much thought
Press buttons first,think after.
Zugzug
This is the way
Just started M gally prog today and I’m noticing I’m not getting enrage during bladestorm sometimes on pull and on the adds in P1, and I’m quite sure I’m in melee range. Is he just parrying on pull and then the adds are just buggy…?
Sorry I mean I’m not getting enrage refreshed, not rage
check parry maybe
Hi, I’m experiencing avatar and House of cards are desyncing even though they are macroed together and used at the same time. Anyone else experiencing this?
is it cdr week in m+
Oh shit, thanks mate!
Unhinged bt isnt guaranteed enrage
It's gamba and sometimes you dont get the gamba
and you don't have deft experience
i think you trade hack n slash if you want take 1 deft point
what are the immunes indicating tho? this is for rampage
OK yeah its definitely the deft experience
I've been running that all tier and then switched off of it for gally after checking WCL talents
I mean realistically
You start bs enraged anyways
So if it procs or not
Doesnt rlly matter
Not a lot of slayer AoE fights, understandable you didn’t notice
ST slayer has deft points
Yeah I was just noticing I was running out of enrage towards the end of bladestorm, so I couldnt really get value out of slaughtering strikes + brutal finish in the opener like I was used to
SS mini game after bs is just if you get a refresh basically
On Gally
From unhinged
Why not
You just do unenraged rb
Ramp does enraged dam regardless
You don’t do SS thing not enraged
Yeah so assuming I'm lucky with RB resets, I would be able to spam like 3-4 RBs before being forced to rampage to refresh enrage
without deft experience in the opener, I was often only getting 1 RB off before I needed to rampage
Can you check the apl, i cant cuz at work
And i dont recall to 100% what it says
I feel like theres no way the SS stacks are valuable enough to be worth casting RBs without mastery bonus
Im sitting at 57% mastery seems like an oof size 100
P sure ramp to enrage has higher prio than bf rbs
mmm delicious knowledge 
maybe feelycraft but I think deft experience over depths of insanity might be worth in the case of scuffed downtime on a prog kill
Ta
Wasnt sure since i havent touched retail since start of the tier
everyone is flying and moving like on coicaine yet we are still playing our vanila class
when i charge mugzee in prog while he is charging i go over him and die
i guess its too much to ask, having a functioning mobility spell
The challenge is to understand how the spell works
yeah i know about this, but you think its good like this? even on opener when they are pulling a boss back, you charge it you go over
the target needs to be dead still inside his hitbox
hello guys
hello gala

always

So wholesome
I charge the first, walk the second and leap+ charge the third, it’s all fine
Yes predictive charge pathing is a godsend and it would feel ass without it
You get edge cases like sarkareth or mugzee if you charge at exactly the wrong time but its an acceptable tradeoff for the best uptime spell in the game
Yeah we predict where he will charge / we place him on specific spot to make him charge every time the same place
Since he charge in the clearest area (it is not a baited charge)
Predictive pathing means charge technically overshoots when the target us moving. Otherwise you be ending up where he was and not where he is/is going
Thats why you end up in mugzees hitbox if you don't wait for him to stop
eikps0907
Is this a mythic only thing? Or is it just not clear very clear what is the "clearest" on heroic?
On hc he picks someone and charges to them
On mythic he does the quadrant thing
Ahh, oki. Ty
What is up fellow brown men and ladies
the sky 😂 😂 😂 😂
Wrong it's the ceiling idjot
we don't have those where i live
hey fury brains,
Anyone able to tell me how people getting double charge at the start of the fight - seems to be tech I dont know and wanting to improve 🙂
One is the effect and the other is the damage. That is just 1 charge so nothing cool happening sadly
Much love
Didn’t notice that was the shape of a heart emoji
Ballsack. A heart would be in the other direction
Its a spade man
yeah maybe spade is better than ballsack, the room isn't called tower of balls after all....
you can't even spell spade
Grr
skull emoti
meow emoticon
can i read that novel somewhere
Become a professor at the meowsiversity then you'll have plenty of novels of similar quality hand delivered to you
Any poe gamers
whats up gamersssssssss
banger show
Was pretty good, just finished it a week or so ago
(Anda held me at gunpoint figuratively and verbally abused me for not having watched it (this is true))
I tried watching that show
Idk but I just couldn't get myself to keep watching
after first or second episode
Don't remember
what is the best fight style sim for mythic gally?
Patchwerk 1 target
Can adjust time for your expected killtime
thank you
Time to put my circlet ring back on, still a 30K dps increase for me
i'm an old poe gamer, if you got any questions
nice hours
I can teach you how to uninstall the game at least
nice heures*
Hey do you guys use dungeon slice to sim for M+?
I don’t. Just run single target and 5 target sims and apply some brain power to the results if they are much different
thanks, will try to apply some brain power
Do we still use this at some point? Whirlwind hits twice as hard as this even for a single target.
Maybe in thane if you get nothing to press
nope
whirlwind is strictly better
as a filler
due to the recent hotfix
Why would you use it for thane lol
In case you cant press anything else
But never gonna happen normally
What do you macro bis with?
As mentioned above, you'd just press WW instead
You dont have ww in thane
Yes you do
WW doesnt magically get removed from your abilities
You just replace it by TC in rotation
lol has anyone noticed, if u use opener macro.
/cast reck
cast avatar
use hoc
charge.
that as the fight goes on u will slowly start desyncinc hoc by a few seconds from avatar
You sure it's not BIS putting your HOC on cd?
We’re not like arms where WW just goes away, it’s still there
It’s most certainly using BiS within 20 seconds of hoc cd
it could be some shenanigan where Avatar has cooled down but hoc hasnt so u press the macro and hoc stays off cd
Kinda hard to reproduce
Oh true
It happens to me to some times
Usually when I’m mashing the Ava+hoc bind as the cooldown is finishing
Next tier no on use weapon causing problems surely!
This is it
I never use bis if under 20
Simple
Fix but you have to press 1 more button
Ran a ton of tests. On your opener macro remove avatar
And when you engage pop avatar
No more issues or instances anymore
Yep
Fix above.
can we add a socket to the new 700 ilvl belt?
HAHAHAHAHAHA Good one! Much more skilled than me, I needed 100+ hours to learn to uninstall
No. But it already has one when you get it
Has there been any theorycrafting on the belt options?
Is Mechano Core Amplifier still simming more than it should?
I have the Cartel Chips to replace it with a myth track trinket, but Hero Amplifier sims better than everything else
No. Mechano very good trinket
Wonder if they’ll hit Mechano core and energy drink with a nerf bat next season or not
I mean they get inherently nerfed by being low ilvl no?
They'll get an ilevel bump when you get new ones in S3
delves also get increased ilvl
They won't necessarily be in the s3 drop pool
did they remove any season 1 trinkets from the pool?
I think so, some of them might also be in the s2 drop pool but none of the good ones
I mean I'm not gonna lose sleep over not having to delve for trinkets next season
they'll probably introduce some new strong trinkets
Any worry about vault luck much less.
45 sec CD, 50% dam mod for 4 sec 🙏
yes

They need to give warrior a way to distrupt other damage dealers DPS
I know we will never get to do dam on their level, so at least let us drag em down to ours
Someone get bro out of the kitchen
Look into your heart, you know my words hold true.
“Whirlwind causes enemies to spin in a daze. While spinning all spells are deflected and enemies can only be harmed by physical melee attacks”
Whirlwind could cause a suck like on sprocket
this is what we need, just make it work on bosses
Giving whirlwind a slow drag in with a 10yd range would actually be really cool (even if it only affected enemies).
What is the best weapon enchant nowaday? I've seen a bunch of different enchants being used by top m+ rated fury warriors
Either depths or radiant power, sim your own character to see what's best for you
On pull I feel like its a 50/50 if I can rampage immediately after a rb, is there a way to make that more consistent?
That happens if you reck before you enter combat
So your options are to either wait to make sure you're in combat first, or heroic throw before charging
Thank you!
You said "after a rb" so just to make sure, you're doing reck + charge + ava immediately on pull, with reck first, correct?
That should put you at exactly 80 rage to rampage
if you reck out of combat you'll lose 1 rage naturally and be at 79
but you shouldn't normally need to RB on opener
Yes!
Bladestorm could pull enemies who were 5 yards or less outside of its range to within its range
Sorry yes that is what I meant is that I wasn't able to open with rampage consistently
Bladestorm getting a pull in effect would go hard.
All g just wanted to make sure
Dare I suggest that mobs pulled to its range be knocked in functioning as a stop?
Sir I can only take so much
Though I do prefer Thane. I just like clapping stuff. Id still take target cap changes over bladestorm utility.
Rallying cry does need to be looked at though
i feel like that would just make it slappy hands but with a different animation
Oh so like ursols vortex but with a different animation?
Or binding shot+ any knockback
I think you guys are cooked
Slappy does one mob at a time during its duration
You do not want a main damage cd tied in with utility
This could be like a single gust on cast
Imagine not being able to BS for damage because you need it for a stop in 15 seconds
That would feel very bad
Nah treat it like the prot pally talent that spams avengers shields. Consider it bonus stops not required stops. You still have shockwave/stormbolt/pummel
uncap intimidating shout YEP
But It still would need something else cause ravager exists.
Though I guess ravager could do the same thing but you pick where it goes.
And if it works on the slayer hero talent proced bladestorm it would be a lot of free stops
fix menace
Maybe just better int shout is the way
1: make menace work if the prio target is fear immune
2: make it a small knockback like the OG dragon roar instead of whatever the fuck it is now
also maybe dont make it cost 2 talent points
Could just make menace a knock up no?
Like the colossus shockwave node
Fixes the knock back issue
Honestly though I think we have plenty of stops already. Id prefer different utility. Lust/brez instead. And then just deal with our aoe. Target capping or making the cds useful. Or make us actually goated/funnel at 5 targets if they have to keep us at 5
Ravager could be hearding mobs, like a sheep dog
Ravager glyph idea: Ravager blades turns into favorite non combat pets
ravager now gets a rainbow effect instead of the boring red/orange one
How would funnel work if we were kept at 5 targets? Every target hit with ww/tclap makes your next rampage do X% more to the primary target? Or something else
plenty of stops is crazy
"for x seconds, all damage that would normally be done to other targets by your cleave effect now goes to the primary target instead"
fuck it who needs aoe damage
How so shockwave hits em all. Stormbolt gets 3. pummel gets 1. And you can fear shout sometimes. Though I havnt used the shout once this season
or maybe "for x seconds, all damage done to other targets by your cleave effect now gets duplicated onto the primary target"
shockwave is unreliable. It's on the stun DR as it doesnt knock up like it does for arms and prot, stormbolt is ass. Intimidating shout is 5 target capped and therefore almost never taken, especially with how tight the class tree is when playing mountain thane.
Interesting idea
calling shockwave unreliable is a take
fury shockwave is unreliable compared to other aoe stuns in the game or compared to colossus shockwave
and i will stand by this take
it's arguably the strongest aoe stun in the game with rumbling earth (which you really should be talented into)
Yeah I think we are better than most classes for stops. Sure we are not vengance DHs. Or shammy totems. But neither is anyone else.
shaman aoe stun has a timer, warlock aoe stun has a cast time, dh aoe stun has a longer cooldown
Yeah I mean the stops is a very minor thing, our target cap and lack of brez/lust is the main issue
Yeah I would much prefer target cap addressed. Or be given funnel. Either way.
And utility. Lust would be great.
The problem with stops is that all of the other classes that have way more utility have tons of stops, too.
Real funnel not the oh in aoe you get more rage so you rampage more.
@modest condor You're saying to talent Rumbling Earth, where do you get the point from? MT.
spriest, warlock, havoc
I don’t like the idea of having funnel and aoe specs, hard pass
Most 17's/18's I've run, my stops are almost never called/needed. Vdh, Boomie, and resto shaman cover them all into DR lol
^
patch notes just dropped lets see what we get
depends on what talents you're already running but looking at the wowhead MT m+ build you could drop craclking thunder or bounding stride
Oh nothing
The last thing we need is to have to consider whether spec is a funnel or aoe spec
i would even say you can drop both and take second wind as well, which is surprisingly strong in m+ this season
Yeah, I'm using the WoWhead MT build
2nd wind is so good
Losing the extra HL doesn't get you in trouble?
there arent many times where i felt like bounding stride would have made the difference for me
I like funnel vs aoe. Being able to kill priority targets is useful. As is killing everything. I dont mind if comps are built around one or the other.
maybe 2nd boss workshop or something, idk the timer on the leap
Oh, its just CD
you can take bounding stride from my cold dead hands (I will not be dead because I leapt away)
Yeah, making HL 30 sec CD and the movement speed is nice
yeah but is it actually needed
how often do you want to leap sooner than 45 seconds
2nd wind usually gets a few if not the ability to 1-100% you between mechanics, it is a lot better than that "out of combat" thing
Eh its just so you dont have to have mage food for post raid wipe. Some people just wait for the healers like they dont have to get mana and stuff before healing you
I’m already imagining the key declines because every group wants 2x Aoe spec and 1x funnel spec.
It's PvE, just take whatever and cry that the class is worthless
rumbling earth for myth vexie prog 
Raid is "is fight designed for 2nd wind to be op? No? It doesnt work. Yes? it is op".
Key declined, you are brown class
Usually at least 1 or 2 fights where it is enabled :v
Already happens. Thats why arcane is picked so often. Would balance it out to have other classes that are good at it
per expansion
they made it work at a lot more places in m+ at some point this season
at first it was only really useful on candle king
but i've noticed that it works on other bosses now as well
like last boss priory
Yes but I don’t think that’s an intentional thing on blizzards part
Thats fair
And bosses that does "big dam now, ok rest" like mecha and so on. Allows healer to just ignore you
But they "could" lean into it and make other specs good at funnel. Not saying it has to be us. But I dont hate the concept in general
Although funnel vs aoe would be a way to differentiate specs within a class
The way destro has great split cleave and demonology has great stack cleave
Yeah. Could do arms is funnel fury is aoe. Or the other way around
If thats the case though we need target caps adjusted or aoe cds made useful again
But that would be a pretty big shift on blizzards part
Just normalizing aoe caps seems easier
Think both fury and arms want to be "the AoE burst spec", as that is lot more fun than the "sustained AoE flat dam" spec. In the Arms Vs Fury, there are no winners, as both want the same.
We have hero trees too though
Slayer is the funnel and MT the aoe
Make arms a support spec like Aug. They sharpen other peoples weapons. Or teach them proper fighting forms for buffs. All my homies hate arms. /s or whatever
There are options
What funnel do Slayer have?
No I’m saying they could make it like that
You want bladestorm to do funnel damage?
yo foory buffs? 
If something should funnel, it should be demolish
Same or cleave. Every target hit by cleave increases next mortal strike by X
So you cleave ms cleave ms to burst a priorty down
Sure, I’m just saying hero trees could be the way they adjust funnel vs aoe
Problem is one will be the loser
Heya quick question from a new fury. After BS and no more Rage: Do I still stack 2 slaughtering for brutal finish or just rage first with rampage?
Im not the best source. But clicking buttons better than waiting on buttons. I always rampage once im out of raging blow stacks. Or if enrage is about to drop
At least after bladestorm
So just like the "guide" says: Rage > "all"
If you dont want to care about the 0.x something gain from the minmax of SS stacks, feel free to just send rampage. If you want to try to minmax, send the RBs you can after the bladestorm and then send rampage.
IF bloodthirst is ready to go you can potentially put that in before rampage. And occasionally get an extra raging blow in because of it.
But never let enrage drop to get another stack
It absolutely is why i take second wind
spec traitor
my guild screaming in my ears
to please eat to heal up
get ready for pull
FUCK NO
second wind
hearty food ?
the thing we had in DF, ya
just eat hearty food wdym
time to find this hearty food
??
You can't make me
I will bum a hearty feast off my guild 10/10 times
I just ask our mage for food.
And eat hearty beladars if we dont drop a feast
In keys you release at full hp anyway
Me when have to spend 20 minutes interacting with a system that probably has a really easy guide to follow online 
yes but only to level 75
Takes like 10 minutes to get to hearty beledar and cost maybe 10k? I dont remember been a while
BoP
Beldars you can buy on AH and condense into hearty
Thats why so many people use em
You do still have to do that step but a stack of 20 is 20 hours of food buff
a stack of 20 hearty yes
Yeah which is what 100 normals?
ye
Can just use normal food and dont die. But the cost isnt too crazy so I just make hearty. Ill make a stack of 20 and it lasts like 2-3 weeks
Meh, found some hearty tea that I could buy from the AH, will do the work
We still got like 2 months of this season right?
Sadly, yeah
I can’t wait to Delve for new belt 
Guess ill work on tww meta achieves or something. I still need to hit 3k. But im slowly working on that.
At least delves are super easy for us. I did a 4 minute t11 sidestreet sluice as prot.
I don’t wanna
same
What if I reck+charge+ava and somehow I need 2 rbs to get to rampage?
Are you sure you pressed reck before both charge and ava?
Yes
Do you have a log
Let me see if I can find one
It’s inconsistent when it happens
Just when it does it’s tilting
Should look more or less like this
Reck generates 20, charge generates 40 (20x2 from reck), ava generates 20 (10x2 from reck) = 80
if you reck before combat starts, you'll degen rage from being out of combat and end up at 79
But you shouldn't need to RB more than once
Bros recking before combat and getting insta parried 
Auto attack parry shouldn't matter
More likely recking before combat starts and losing the buff
Is MT "easier" at Bandit? Dont really know whether to pick slayer or MT.
if you're trying to do add damage it is, if you're just trying to tunnel boss Slayer is at least as easy
We are "skipping" alls relevant phases and just cleave the add near the boss. Seems like slayer is the way then ty!
You used reck before combat, and double check your macro to make sure you're not using ava before reck
Either add heroic throw before you charge to make sure it doesnt happen. Or delay like 0.5 second on charge to make sure combat has acutally started before you reck/avatar/charge
Might try the heroic throw thing
I think the macro would work fine. I like having charge on a different button but I dont think it matters. Just gotta make sure you do it after combat starts or it wipes out your buffs.
Can make sure it starts by heroic throwing before you hit the macro. Or just sit in charge range and react to someone else starting it on the pull timer.
Yeah I have just charge on a seperate button but that macro is specifically my “start pull” button
Also there’s nothing wrong with raw charging
Hit it couple times
Then reck Ava opener
Don’t I lose rage from doing that
Since charge isn’t during reck
Not worried about parsing gally sadly, I’m not allowed to. I’m guild bomb runner
Then yeah
Losing the whole opener vs delaying it by half a second isnt not even a contest
I just sit in charge range and react to the boss being pulled. When you are expecting it the reaction time is less than half a global
Fair enough. I tend to just react to the timer ending lol
And doing your opener optimally in raid is about 0.1% of your damage if that
It’s more relevant in m+
Because you are doing an opener about 20 times
If you are going to react to the timer ending the heroic throw then hit the macro
rank 1 log on bandit uses odyns fury? :O
The heroic throw starts combat so your buffs dont get eaten
I can just delay it like you said though. I didn’t understand that in/out of combat was raid wide and not player dependent
xXxpadmasterxXx over there
Yeah it is new part way through this season
Before if you hit the macro 0.1 seconds early nothing happened. Now it eats your buffs
odyns is BiS on stix as well
100%
It doesn't eat ava/reck
stix fake boss though
@winter shoal curious if you can sim for me the dps loss for a “suboptimal opener” in 5 min
The only things I know that get canceled in raid are arms sweeping strikes (but not the SS proc from berserker's torment for some reason)
thats rly cool
are there any other uses for odyns?
besides odyns/stix?
not really
Someone probably can but idk how
https://www.wowhead.com/news/mostly-reverted-some-major-cooldown-buffs-removed-on-raid-boss-combat-start-in-376436
11.1.5 is the change
It sucks that the opener is my time to peak perform and my guild got no one else to run bombs competently
They say they fixed it. But you dont have the rage on the log.
I mean I can remove the prepull reck/ava but idk how to delay them a gcd or two
They have the reck/ava buffs on pull though
Yeah but look at resources they have 0 rage
if you prepull reck/avatar you will lose the rage when you are the first to charge
If you remove pre pull reck Ava then it’ll just hit the boss until it’s time to use
That should work
Yeah but "time to use" is immediately
its always been like this, you lose rage when you enter combat
So either heroic throw before charge to make sure combat has started. Or react to someone else hitting the boss to make sure rage doesnt get eaten.
Same
but heroic throw is good too to force it
raidbots down gg
om
Just add “and combat time>2”
Or something like that
As for how to do that
Good luck
It wouldn’t bs early either because bs checks for reck cd
Overthinking it. React or heroic throw. Works on every single pull. And you are not wasting potentially 2 seconds of lust
Yeah that works
I’m a fan of heroic throw myself
But some ppl don’t even have it bound
Mouse wheel up for me. Its my pulling tool. Same keybind for prot/fury
Sometimes you are standing out of range and need to do something
Mouse down is execute. Some people hate that. I put camera zoom on shift mouse up/down cause I use that way less often.
Every toon though mouse up is a pulling tool mouse down is a priority proc of some kind.
how big are usually the changes between season?
are we very likely to have very different talent setups?
All depends on tier sets. Balance could change a lot with mini reworks but they are less common
Tier sets usually going to change some things
We are going into the 3rd tier
So likely something will change
1st tier has the weakest sets
2nd tier sometimes
But arms went through 6 tier sets without it influencing talents
They're also probably going to change RA for the 6th patch in a row
1st tier we played RA, this tier we playing AM , who knows what will be for 3rd
OS and OF would have to go 🅱️RAZY for that to be the case
i miss odyns fury 
delete this
And 2 set is like os cd
imagine they remove odyns fury and thunderous roar target cap :O
id be so happy playing OF again
roar is still effectively uncapped
Granted, it now does 1 RB worth of damage on every target
they only capped the initial hit, which is like 0.3% of your damage
So it’s not worth pressing until 10t
ohh didnt know that
Odyns just needs a tuning lever for low/high target cleave
I think DB vs TR is meant to be that lever
Yeah though TR is not strong enough of a lever
Not only that
When we were zeroed on aura buffs on ptr
Autos weren’t increased
So autos were just nerfed by 33%
Is raidbots up
no
DB worked fine in dragonflight s1 and 2 where we didnt play anni
they just need to tune auto attacks to be a meaningful amount of our damage
if auto attacks are 8% of your damage at a baseline then DB is very strong
I agree
Fine line to walk on though
I rather they just remove DB, than try to give OF a ST lever beyond the pure dam. Not to mention, empowering autoattacks is boring AF.
If they are dead set to give DB auto dam add value, easiest would to just add a flat dam bonus on autos for the duration
I actually enjoyed P1 of Gally
How many pulls did it take you?
Phillip please calm down you are scaring the children
When do you guys use the one-use BIS? In a Macro?
That’s true
Remember auto attack damage in legion?
Even afterwards it was pretty big
Now it’s way down
[combat] in the macro helps
tyvm!
is it true rallying cry used to be 30% instead of 10%?
in dragonflight it was 20%(with a talent) in shadowlands you could prob get near 30. idk someone else prob has the exact number
was it actually op back then or is it just shit now
I feel like it fukkin sucks now I'm ngl
both
was OP in shadowlands and it's shit now
It was « OP » and raid tuning hit warriors once again
it was pretty damn strong, you had a conduit that both increased the amount and the duration
we could get it up to like 18 seconds duration or something
ahh there it is. belt buffs
Thane plus belt, need all the lightnings!
I wanna look like a Dual weilding Teslacoil
belt is still not here
now the belt is worth?
Yes
the belt isnt a good tool to educate people
If it’s not blizzard will always buff it
Just like they did the ring
and the other ring
oh wait we werent talking about education of the children
And the trinkets
What trinket
All of em
yea that’s random seasonal stuff tho
This is also random seasonal stuff
this more specific too the random .7 patch item

Onyx annulet and circlet and this
Don’t worry swordish I made a guide for the belt just for you bud
yeah I’ll definitely take a look at that

And not just read the post in wow updates on Tuesday
You just pick up the quest up from dagran where the delve hut is at
Without doing any research at all I assume we take mastery proc for bis. Or a damage proc if the effect is fun
Its true I am hard
so
I think it was already usable but at the end ilvl
But you right it is exact same as cyrce / when it was unusable on loot (started at 626 / vague memory)
We got any sims for the buffed version ? Mastery for M+ and charged bolts for ST ? Or am i tripping.
Since they brought back Horrific visions I can’t wait for Heart of Azeroth comeback, fits more thematically than horrific visions and you get a second attempt at ”Azeroths champion” title
@slim coral tutorial how to get rainbow name
Polychrome*
0.3% more than i thought
tbh
Maybe they'll nerf warlock dart pact by like .5% so it doesn't solo boss mechanics.
but this is still my point though
people are focusing WAY too much on 0.x% damage
now im curious on reck charge spells ava
but i dont care enough
I just use my both macro. So what if I lose half a second on a single avatar while I am charging.
Yeah not being able to rampage as first gcd is the big F
Do we have numbers for fury with the new belt yet?
This name?
Can someone ban this weeb
Ohh booost
@remote bobcat if I send you a log of me doing loboz will you tell me what I'm doing wrong

Can't ban me
@ me in #1347646810457636974 and i will check tomorrow, bed time now
"you can only equip one item in the void touched category"

thought 5 masking would be actually helpful to gear my new alt
This doesn’t work on Target dummies right? Because you won’t be in combat
weebs allowed
HWAT
rimuru pfp
brother
you have animated weeb shit as your banner.
and i wont even mention YOUR pfp
smh
Never forget the real bro Rimuru had before reincarnation that tossed his PC in the bath so nobody would see his porn collection
thats not weeb
thats magik
get it right
weeb
"thats magik blah blah"
brother its animated ass on your pfp
could have picked any number of images of magik, but you got her ass right up front
smh
Magik?
@slim coral did i pass u yet
nope
Note to self never BS when you have to dunk the coin on OAB
my sim is telling me to go very vers heavy and only got 47% mastery, seems a bit low for fury idk
Why don’t you have two swords
We hate ourselves here
was doing really good till bladestorm turned on me
ran out right as suck in happened
and i died

by what metric
ilvl
literally only missing ilvl from 2 embellishments
if he has higher ilvl he's dumb
that is effectively capped ilvl
till next week at least
true execute bazed
I'm not joining vc but if you ask a question in #ui-addons-manager I can take a look
how do u macro to use tempered potion?
/use tempered potion
doesnt work
are you useing the potions from a cauldron
no
they are named fleeting tempered potions
maybe capitalize the T and P idk
ive never had an issue with /use Tempered Potion
but should work like dat
maybe something stupid like an extra space somewhere in the line?
nope just checked :p
o7
No im testing on dummy just made it
No
fuck it im bored go to general and share screen
is it using your trinket
Ye
and avatar
Ye
All except pot
Even when avator and trinket on cd and i press it it should still use the pot ( if not on cd) but it doesnt idk
imagine not prepping for poe league
not the 111movies
is it a new macro, are you sure you replaced the existing one on your bar with it
Macros dont have an indicator if its a macro or the ability and i've goofed multiple times becuase the bar doesnt show it as a macro
default ui also nukes your eyeballs though
oh if its an elvui thing u can def turn the macro text on I have mine on so I know if its my goat charge macro or not
i could've saved my cd for last set of adds but i was panicing and threw it
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gikUCtMdoVoTm4CNevkcWW my crafted is better than mythic gally wep
Turned of pc headin to work but now that i think bout it thats it 😂
:p have a good workday man hope its the fix
Ty ty will try to remember to replace on actionbar tonight 💀
when are blizzard emergency buffing fury
Large
I did kinda stinky on that boss, need to watch the vod and figure out what I did wrong
Were you meleeing during the blue circle swordish?
Oh wait
I thought you meant you got rank 28 on gally for spec
I think I'm becoming less literate every day
not me i mean
the rank 28 spec of all specs is a fury
ergo fury is fine doesnt need a buff

i think i would like to attempt the meleeing during blue
i tested in p1 does like maybe 70% hp
just mildly more worried about it during p2/3 with all the extra dmg but maybe with planned cds its fine
got like 27% from 51
I just didn't want to do it during trial
Feel like it's a bad look, especially if I fuck it up and die
I think with SR + dstance you're chillin
at max melee

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