fury

[eternal sundial]

Me when i lie

[warm crag]

But ye dinaring a trinket you use for 1 fight that isnt a dps check is silly

[smoky vale]

ive never said thT

im not toxic

[coarse nest]

Not worth dinaring eye

I’d do pacemaker or lock n stalk honestly

[warm crag]

i will be dinaring eye

[tepid cedar]

Pace maker is godly

In every content

[solemn hearth]

5 min sims tell me hc eye + myth locknstalk is better than hc peacemaker + myth locknstalk 🤷‍♂️

[gilded pawn]

Eye is op when a fight lasts 5 min

[tepid cedar]

I prolly just stats then

Well eyes can be op on 50 seconds

Or in 3 min lol

I’ve had 12 stacks in 55 seconds and then 3 stacks in 1 min 40 lol

[quiet breach]

is there a chance I could lose kezan stacks when I stop DPS right before mugzee 40%

or will I always stay in combat no matter what?

do I need to auto attack?

[smoky vale]

combat

[summer quail]

In raid you're always in combat once the boss is pulled

[quiet breach]

this is what I thought but I wasn't 100% sure, thanks

[tepid cedar]

Did anything change in sims. Was looking at my phone. And I was simmoning 3.152 and now 3.137

[remote bobcat]

thankfully you wont lose stacks but u should still try to get as much uptime as possible of course

its not an excuse to start getting lazy

[oblique trail]

Dinar this

📻

[frank jolt]

hi yall

I need some opinions. I sim 3.028m with Frenzied Enrage and 3.013m with Powerful Enrage, but the latter feels much smoother, with Frenzied its a bit more of a hussle to keep up Enrage all the time. What are your opinions, which one do you prefer? Always go for meta or is it a negligible difference for some more comfort?

[winter shoal]

Do you have links to the sims?

You could @ arma, archi, or silm but I'm not that brave

They'd probably know if anything changed on simc

[tepid cedar]

So yesterday was 3.152

Now 3.137 3.140

Umm

[winter shoal]

Powerful sims slightly better for me so I play that, except on Gally where you want to have reck+BS for add spawns like 35s in. For the most part though they're close enough that you can just play what you want

[tepid cedar]

I’m on the phone let me see

@modest condor were there any changes in simc apl or items in general within last 24 hours?

[winter shoal]

Silm probably bedge innit

EU andy

Wait no

That's not how time works

[young swan]

@slim coral

[tepid cedar]

Bowl

@winter shoal

Here

This was a sim I was testing between frenzied and powerful

Just rerun it and see what you get

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/sLE2iJp16TT4hDX1CJt3zB

[slim coral]

Yo

W color

[winter shoal]

1558 margin of error so could just be sim rng maybe

[tepid cedar]

So might be my phone. Well that’s still a lot higher than 3.137

[winter shoal]

Did you disable a raid buff or something

[slim coral]

@young swan thanks bud sick colo

Color

[modest condor]

? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/v4sRB8WJYRuer1617EyfZX

[tepid cedar]

Nope I had to log out and log back in

Ow it’s working

Weird af

Ahhahahahaha

[warm crag]

bazed trans pride colorus

[swift dust]

Question, raidbots is telling me that rerolling my crafted ring from Mastery/Haste to Crit/Vers is a 123k increase on Dungeon Slice. Can I get a sanity check on it?

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/eHmupsRveYmqyC6zE8N4BL

[modest condor]

dungeon slice ¯_(ツ)_/¯

we dont have an optimised dungeon slice apl so it just sends cooldowns during the last gcd of a pack if that's when they come off cooldown, could be that the haste pushes you to a point where it does that

[whole yacht]

sim patch and then come back to us.

[swift dust]

Ah.

Is there a better way to sim for M+? Sorry, if I'm missing something.

[winter shoal]

1t 5m and 5t 5m and then use your noggin to compare

[modest condor]

there's not really a good way to sim m+ in the first place, most people just use 1 target 5 minute patchwerk with aoe talents

[whole yacht]

dont specifically sim for m+

its never accurate enough to be genuinely useful

[swift dust]

Thanks, appreciate the info

[winter shoal]

M+ esp in pugs is so variable that even accurate sims wouldn't be super transferable imo

Do your best to make relatively educated guesses and just play well

shruge

[modest condor]

you can use 5 target as well like bigbowl said for example to see comparisons between trinkets on aoe, but the stats you want are pretty much the same between st and aoe anyway

[swift dust]

Gotcha, I'm trying to get beyond 3 M in lower M+ (10-11), but I'm struggling.

[modest condor]

the stats on your gear isnt gonna be the difference there

it's gonna be ilvl, routing, rotation and cooldown usage

[swift dust]

I was in one with another Fury and I seemed to be lagging behind on BT usage, but there were periods where the BT WA was stuck at like 84%, so I was thinking I should maybe up my crit a bit so it hits the 85% threshold a bit more.

[winter shoal]

In aoe you want to BT pretty often regardless of crit

Technically you BT > RB at 4+ targets for thane, but personally I do it in any aoe situation

can't be bothered counting targets

Also on single target I would for sure send a BT at 84% crit

It's so easy to overcap from procs that sending a little early is better than overcapping crit imo

[tepid cedar]

We were talking about mister lock earlier. Quite big diff. I wonder what the stat cutoff is for lock to perform better is

[swift dust]

Thanks for the tips, sorry for derailing your conversation.

[compact knot]

its all good big dawg

[summer quail]

locknstalk 8k higher than HoC for me

prob just haste diff?

[tepid cedar]

Damn I wish I could tell you what my haste was at top of my head

[winter shoal]

99% of the discussion in here is pure nonsense so never apologize for having legitimate questions

[tepid cedar]

I think mayyyyybe I’m at 32

[winter shoal]

40/40/10/10

[summer quail]

think i'm at 27

[formal bay]

anyone with a quick macro for Best in Slots to be used only in combat? Need it quick and cant see it in macro pinned

[winter shoal]

#1237307732705415228 message

/use [combat] 16 is the bit you're looking for I think

16 is your mainhand weapon slot

[chilly fractal]

I’m gonna go out on a limb… and guess it’s because you have a shit load of haste as is? We have very similar gear except I’m using Lock N Stalk not eye… but sims say Eye will replace pacemaker

Just a guess though while glancing

[tepid cedar]

Yea it’s interesting how things differ

[coarse nest]

Is there a way I can sim my equipped gear with the 1T slayer build if I logged out with the 2T slayer build

[tepid cedar]

I didn’t look at eye and HoC. But when I start pushing r1 on heroic, I legit might go with HoC and eye vs pace and HoC . So that 1.30 cd comes off juicy

[coarse nest]

Curious how much dps I lose by having the two WW talents it can’t be that much

[tepid cedar]

Find a previous sim and re run sim and create the new tree .

What you do on my phone and it’s a pain in the ass as phone interface ain’t great 😂😂

[coarse nest]

Same lol

[winter shoal]

top gear lets you select talents at the bottom

[coarse nest]

I’ve never utilized the talent section

[pure hornet]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/aVndVhsGLDGXyiMgfe3C3h ain't no way it's still not better

[coarse nest]

Now’s the time

[remote bobcat]

signet lmao

shit item

[pure hornet]

how is it simming better?! omg

[tepid cedar]

It’s very stat dependent

[remote bobcat]

^

[tepid cedar]

Took me forever to be able to change it

[coarse nest]

If your highest secondary is mastery

Signet probably sim well

[tepid cedar]

You need a lot of bis items

[pure hornet]

should it not be mast?

[coarse nest]

I would think you’d want it to be mastery

[tepid cedar]

I think I’m at like 48-50 % mast

[remote bobcat]

because dungeon slice favors big buttons on pull and signet is a big button

[quiet breach]

@sullen dove how many healers is ur guild using for gally prog

[smoky vale]

4

dont think there is a reason not to 4 heal

[tepid cedar]

So this is what is gona. Worry me

Is the new belt going to buff cyrces

And we go back to using it 😂😂

[dull cloak]

do we know, how many classes can out dps us with the new one button next week? asking for a frend.

[tepid cedar]

They won’t out dps anyone playing they lie class right

It’s equivalent to say 70-75% parse I believe

Which for 95% of player base is huge improvement

[dull cloak]

but in m+ that should can out dps us

[chilly fractal]

My alts will all be 1 button all the time

[tepid cedar]

Doubt it

[slim coral]

The one button is literally never beating anyone

[tepid cedar]

Example. A 99 parse in a key for me. Where my udk friend beat me by 100k. Was a 90 parse for him

So a 75 parse we wreck then

[winter shoal]

These are the words of someone who hasn't pugged 10-12s recently

[dull cloak]

but in the 5% on paper a uh can be up to 2 mill diff

[tepid cedar]

You have not been more right lol

[winter shoal]

I use hekili for my alts (not the same bc no haste penalty) and I have DOUBLED the damage of some of these pug rats

[tepid cedar]

I’m excited about 1 button dude. So many players could use it. Even when I came back to game and joined a casual friends guild.

[winter shoal]

a 0.3s gcd penalty is not making up for that

[tepid cedar]

It’s gona be a huge Upgrade for so many guilds and ppl doing damage and mechs

[dull cloak]

i really like the idea for a lot of players, but with the state of fury, that can be a problem balance wise

[tepid cedar]

Now if ppl are to prideful and refuse to use it bc of being embarrassed their fucking idiots

[winter shoal]

Explain

[winter shoal]

I mean they could've been using hekili this whole time and aren't for whatever reason

1 button is giga for accessibility

I doubt it'll impact the average player much more than hekili already has though

[dull cloak]

there is a propability on paper someone an a udk can beatr me pressing 1 button in lets say an brew

[tepid cedar]

Hekili is stil not super optim3:

And actually hinders ppl bc they spend more time looking at buttons

[winter shoal]

@uneven pilot get him

[tepid cedar]

Vs what’s going on in the screen

[winter shoal]

genuine question have you ever used the addon

[tepid cedar]

I have not

[winter shoal]

it tells you what keybind the button is on

Also it just pulls the apl direct from simc so it's WAY more optimized the blizzkili

Obviously there is still some manual optimization with cd timing and shit esp in keys

[uneven pilot]

I have been summoned wat do

[tepid cedar]

That shit will never beat on the fly adjustments

[winter shoal]

Bro is yapping about the funny addon but hasn't used it

[uneven pilot]

Oh

That's ok, people are allowed to have opinions (I guess)

[winter shoal]

Knowing the ins and outs of your class and general good gameplay (with respect to cd usage, uptime, etc) will always be beneficial

[tepid cedar]

And you can’t tell me paying attention to an addon ur still fully aware of everything else going on. Where as the 1 button. You make a macro on ur mouse to spam say “1” every .3 seconds and then y hold the button and look at emchanics lol

[uneven pilot]

It's optimal enough for me to almost get title, along with mythic 99 parses on multiple prog fights with multiple specs

[winter shoal]

Why almost title Syrif

Lock in

[tepid cedar]

You an exception not saying it can’t be done

[uneven pilot]

Because my team left to play PoE

[tepid cedar]

But for the more casual players

[uneven pilot]

and solo pugging was hard at title threshold

[winter shoal]

Based

[uneven pilot]

Less of an exception than you'd think.

Peripheral vision goes pretty hard

[winter shoal]

I'm medium-core and this is all hekili

[uneven pilot]

At the end of the day it's a tool, and you get out of it what you put into it

[tepid cedar]

Now not trying to be funny

What happens if they block hekili though

[winter shoal]

Apoc I hope you know I'm mostly just pulling your leg

[tepid cedar]

Oh bro!! All love

[young swan]

prob the best description of hekili use ive ever seen

[uneven pilot]

If you don't learn your spec and just monkey follow it, yeah you won't be getting 99s.

If you actually know your spec, and use context, and toggles, etc, yeah you can go pretty high.

[coarse nest]

Witch one of the three!?

[tepid cedar]

I personally don’t care who uses it hekili but the 1 button will be game changer for the masses

[coarse nest]

[tepid cedar]

We all fury warriors

[pure hornet]

Is there other way to sim?

[tepid cedar]

Big swords to hide the little pPs

[sullen dove]

wha he said

[uneven pilot]

I quit

[winter shoal]

the cd mode toggle is omega bis

[uneven pilot]

Working on the addon is a large part of why I still get joy out of this game

[tepid cedar]

Didn’t mean that in a dick context kind of way

[remote bobcat]

check generic aoe sims and find out what that will give u and then come to your own conclusions based on the given context

[tepid cedar]

Just really wondering

[uneven pilot]

I know, but that's my serious answer.

[young swan]

i remember seeing a post from reloe or nnoggie listing all the addons that would be getting blocked and hekili was on there.....

[uneven pilot]

That doesn't mean they actually know

[young swan]

no ofc

[remote bobcat]

assuming perfect uptime and perfect cooldown usage

[young swan]

but its a reasonable assumption

[uneven pilot]

We will 100% be impacted. We do not know to what degree.

[young swan]

given they want to block all combat assisting addons

[remote bobcat]

and the delay is even harsher now is it not?

[tepid cedar]

@uneven pilot that’s fuckin insane though bro

You parse as high as me while paying attention to more shit 😂😂 now I feel mentally challenged lolol

[whole yacht]

gearing my lock

[tepid cedar]

Leave the server

[whole yacht]

is it fucked that i ss'd myself cuz i knew the healer was about to let me die?

[uneven pilot]

I got a rank 10 world myth rashok parse on prog kill, and rank 11 myth dathea on prog kill using it on hunter.

[young swan]

booster has special colour now

[tepid cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/police-officer-super-troopers-security-state-park-right-meow-gif-14365406

[whole yacht]

what color

[young swan]

go look

[whole yacht]

i see

brb

[slim coral]

Where you going

[uneven pilot]

Tbh I mostly use it because my ADHD is very bad, and most of my gaming happens after my meds are worn off for the day. I get lost in the sauce too easily.

So I primarily play just reading the addon peripherally, with the keybind text very large and clear.

[near phoenix]

Got my Mythic Gally kill last night. Tier complete!

[uneven pilot]

After like 450 pulls of fyrakk, there's 0% chance I could do rotation without it.

brain fried, mash potato, mush.

[remote bobcat]

ggs mate

[uneven pilot]

But also this, btw.

[tepid cedar]

Niceeee

[whole yacht]

what do you mean

to boost of course

[tepid cedar]

The good ol days. + I just miss the smaller numbers!!

So weird seeing 100k logs lololol

[coarse nest]

I liked SL numbers personally

4 digit dps

[tepid cedar]

Wonder if they will number crunch on next expansion

[coarse nest]

5 digit Crits

[tepid cedar]

Yessss

[coarse nest]

Easy to read

[tepid cedar]

13-15k overalls on sir denathrius

[young swan]

they already said they were looking at a crunch for midnight

[coarse nest]

Less bloat on the screen

[whole yacht]

i am special now?

[tepid cedar]

Awesome

[young swan]

i hate small numbers

[tepid cedar]

That’s why you hate runnings keys this season then huh

😂😂😂😂😂

All our numbers be smallllll

[young swan]

partly

i also just hate fury rn

unfun for me

[winter shoal]

Xan is just a grumpy guy

in general

[tepid cedar]

Fair nuff

[young swan]

thats only a little bit true

ive only been grumpy since SL

[whole yacht]

xan is happy when on aqw

[young swan]

real actually

[coarse nest]

Adventure quest worlds??

[young swan]

hyped for hollowborn class

it comes out on my birthday

[whole yacht]

yes\

[young swan]

big bday present

[tepid cedar]

You knows who’s grumpy. Just tag Archi and tell him you love him

[coarse nest]

Yo I loved that game when I was in middle school

[whole yacht]

wait hollowborn classs?!?!?

[coarse nest]

Is it still populated?

[young swan]

• ultra boss

[whole yacht]

yes

[young swan]

couple thousand players

[whole yacht]

and i may have to get on for that class

[coarse nest]

Might have to do a throw back weekend

[red berry]

when did u most enjoy fury then

[whole yacht]

when is it coming out?

[tepid cedar]

DF s1 and 2 were fun

[young swan]

s2/3 bfa and legion (the entire xpac)

[tepid cedar]

Especially PTR between DF s1 and s2

[winter shoal]

go to bed grandpa

[coarse nest]

I think the last time I played aqw was 2012ish roughly

[tepid cedar]

When annihilator build was BUSTED GOOD lololol

[red berry]

man i loved CSHB being strong

blood of the enemy felt good

[coarse nest]

I was a fan of annibuild also tbh

[tepid cedar]

We were gonna break the game if they released fury in s2 with ptr numbers lolol

[coarse nest]

I prefer RA also

[red berry]

corruptions sucked but stacking crit and strikethrough was good

[whole yacht]

corruptions were fun

you cannot change my mind

[red berry]

they were

[tepid cedar]

Gladiator stance was fun

[dense elbow]

... when everyone had fun things... but you had proc versa...

....

.....

...

[red berry]

but before the vendor became good they were painful

[whole yacht]

oh you mean getting the corruptions?

[coarse nest]

100% corruptions were turbo fun mode

[red berry]

yeah lmao

[coarse nest]

I whole heartedly miss season 4 bfa

[red berry]

obtaining prior to that change

[whole yacht]

i literally have a toon named "tdgobrrr"

[quiet breach]

what happens if you let the gaol cast go off on mugzee

I never seen it happen heroic or mythic lol

[young swan]

absorb shield on the boss

[red berry]

somebody will say wrecking throw

[tepid cedar]

Yoo tanks got threat buff thank the lorrrddddd

[dense elbow]

So... wrecking throw value?

[tepid cedar]

Bro the amount of time I been yanking threat with slayer build in m+ was starting to be annoying af . Even though instead of rasing threat why not buff tank damage lol

[dense elbow]

Cause that would be fun for tanks

[quiet breach]

do u guys actually use intervene regularly

I almost never use that shit bro

[pure hornet]

regem'd and seaforum not sims higher

[dense elbow]

Semi-regularly

[quiet breach]

but I still talent it

[dense elbow]

For some movement, mainly

I have used it on DPS that rip threat, and I had no AoE taunt to fall back on

[quiet breach]

I mean as fury warrior

like in raid

[dense elbow]

Why would I ever bring intervene, other than for fights that require it?

[coarse nest]

They’re preparing for the warrior aoe burst buff that’s incoming

[dense elbow]

They would need to do a bigger buff than 16% for that

we already rip threat with negative dam

imagine if we did

[undone flower]

Next tier set will uncap fury

[dense elbow]

I hate tierset solutions to core problems

I hate em so much

[coarse nest]

If they put that on a tier set and then take it away

Imagine

Hollyyyy

[dense elbow]

OF needs a 51% buff to be 'kinda viable', next tierset: OF dam increased by 50%.

... and it is gone.

[undone flower]

Even 1 additional target, it is uncap AoE to me

[young swan]

the only time I like them is when they get baked in as a talent afterwards

like the glave throw DH thing

[undone flower]

Yooo xantaga have French flag as name color

[young swan]

blow up

[undone flower]

🇫🇷

[tepid cedar]

Combine spear and champions might into 1. Capstone increases radius by 100%

[coarse nest]

FRENCH

[tepid cedar]

And say bye bye to roar

[red berry]

them making odyns from avatar and 5 targets, idk why theyre worried about buffing it back up again

[dense elbow]

Cause raid

[tepid cedar]

When did they they change the OF capstones

Or if procting avatar or reckless whatever it was

[dense elbow]

That was TT, yep

[red berry]

yes but even if its strong we lost a non-insignificant value due to it not proccing from avatar

[quiet breach]

do u bring it to myth mug'zee? also do u bring second wind to myth mug'zee?

[dense elbow]

I dont raid, sorry love

Apo would know

Poke him

[tepid cedar]

I personally would never bring intervene

[quiet breach]

@ anyone that raids, do u use second wind and/or intervene on mythic mugzee

[coarse nest]

Go on warcraftlogs and copy walifes builds for each boss

[undone flower]

I mostly raid, sorry funky

[coarse nest]

And then stop thinking about it

[dense elbow]

Toxic

[coarse nest]

Ez

[limber oar]

Start of this tier, right? Whenever they made the change to RA

[dense elbow]

Didnt change any of the OF capstones tho

TR and DB remained unchanged, as far as I am aware.

[tepid cedar]

Ahhh. Ok. I was completely out of the loop. I came back to the game a week before s2 started lol

[undone flower]

If you plan to use intervene for movement, take it, if not, do whatever with that point

[whole yacht]

just did lfr gally with 1 hand on my mouse, and the other holding an ice cream sammich

how do people die

on lfr

[limber oar]

Ya idk if it was the OF capstone that was changed but the avatar one that casted Odyns when yoi cast avatar and vice versa

[tepid cedar]

I don’t think I’ve ran into a single place where I had to intervene

[limber oar]

The odyns capstones have always been pretty fucking ass tho

[undone flower]

I played intervene on ansurek

[limber oar]

At least since i started playing this expac

[dense elbow]

TR is QoL, but any %buff dam they want to give to OF, should just be added to TR %dam

[tepid cedar]

20% flat damage across all abilities

Boom

Solved

[limber oar]

I feel like TR shouldnt be a good button in ST am i crazy for that

[dense elbow]

You talking roar?

[limber oar]

Ya

[dense elbow]

Roar kinda isn't the optimal one already, no?

[undone flower]

I don’t think it is a good button in ST currently

[tepid cedar]

Tell you. Bring spear back

[limber oar]

Its good enough to press

But not by much

Iirc

[tepid cedar]

Combine spar and champions might into 1 and capstone increases radius

[limber oar]

But thats the sad part

[limber oar]

Ya im with you

[dense elbow]

Makes spear great - OF even worse now, as it doesnt get the dot %dam add

God I hate "synergy" talents for the big buttons.

[winter shoal]

Bro doesn't use DE on OAB, I'm not copying that

[limber oar]

But at keast last tier spear was good in ST and odyns + roar was good in MT

[tepid cedar]

I would never go back to roar

[limber oar]

I have 0 comparison to draw from past seasons tho

Er expansions

[undone flower]

We played spear last season in ST

[limber oar]

I just groan every time i press roar on mugzee or sprocket

Cringe spell

[tepid cedar]

Plus I have the animations every time I’m like … that’s an rb and rampage I could be casting lol

[dense elbow]

Why would you press it on ST?

[limber oar]

Cause its technically worth to press?

[dense elbow]

Meh

[undone flower]

And… I don’t want to live in AM+ Spear world

[dense elbow]

Lets see, roar is 800k dam
Raging blow is, 540k dam (+enrage bonus), and 20% of rampage damage.

[tepid cedar]

The initial hit is shit

[limber oar]

Like im not gonna not press it out of protest but i am gonna complain that a 90 sec cd feels like it does no dmg in ST even though it’s our inly real option

[dense elbow]

that is hit + bleed

[tepid cedar]

But it’s the added ticks where we get the actual small increase

[dense elbow]

Also grants no rage, while RB does

hms hms

[tepid cedar]

Funky run a sim in st build where 1 dosnt use roar

[dense elbow]

Nah, I dont want to even risk being half right

[tepid cedar]

lol

Do it

And leave the extra talent point without being used

lol

[coarse nest]

Ngl I’ve been enjoying playing with fury jug instead of DE

[limber oar]

Would the sim even use roar if it wasnt worth to use it?

[undone flower]

Yes

[tepid cedar]

Yes bc if it ever ran out of cooldowns

Roar would be available and if you have nothing to press

[modest condor]

i mean we'd have to manually remove it from the apl but yeah if it wasnt worth pressing roar we wouldnt make it press it (and we also wouldnt have it in the default talent builds)

[limber oar]

Right but it uses it early before even the first BT

[chilly fractal]

Take the talent out

Can’t use what ain’t talented

[dense elbow]

Like out back?

[undone flower]

It is apl thing, even if it’s dps loss, it would press it above everything else under it

[chilly fractal]

Old yeller baby

[modest condor]

if it was a dps loss it wouldnt be in the apl

[dense elbow]

I mean, it is a 0.1% minus

[limber oar]

See

Its worth to press!

(That button fucking blows)

[sullen dove]

2.4m sim btw

[undone flower]

Yes, I’m just explaining, why roar press would not change magically

[dense elbow]

No make fun on my sim

fbm

[tepid cedar]

Lolol

Damn swordfish went for the throat

😂😂

[modest condor]

even my sim is higher and im thane

[sullen dove]

I mean I’m sure he’d sim high with real talents I think most of us know that’s just kind of the bit

[dense elbow]

I dont sim with raidbuffs and stuff, no

[sullen dove]

o well i mean thats strange

[dense elbow]

I sim for M+, so it is what is set to

Not that many raidbuffs in M+ 🤷‍♂️

[chilly fractal]

“I sim for M+” put that on a T-Shirt @dense elbow

[dense elbow]

It will be right after my line of "Buff OF 51%" line

[chilly fractal]

One on the front the other on the back

Wear it to Blizzcon next year

[dense elbow]

[undone flower]

Yeah Buff OF shirt in the street

Everyone will understand

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/hm-gif-24606491

They should add another 1% stat dam node, so we dont have to bring roar

(it should also add like, +1% crit damage on raging blow)

[sullen dove]

ok we need to not kill the boss tonight since im forced to tank

and kill it tomorrow

[flat river]

Tell them nuh uh

[remote bobcat]

gally?

i tanked that boss, i can give u some tips if u want

[pulsar quest]

Gally? Yeah I tanked my parse on that boss I can help

Let me tell you if you want to parse just barely under orange I’m your guy

And also have mental breakdowns

[celest sierra]

i wonder how much actual numbers a fury warrior will do with uncapped dps

anyone know how to calculate it? like on the first pull of cinderbrew what do u guys estimate

[forest owl]

anyone know if there's anyway to catchup with raid rep?

[winter shoal]

About 12 gorillion dps

[sullen dove]

uh all the damage you do with rampage/ragingblow/execute/bloodthirst is like uh... 320% damage i think? 100% then 55% 4 times, so just like uh... find what amount that 55% damage does then idk count how many targets there are and add that many

may also be like 60% now or somethin idk

but 6 more targets is 330% so that would like about double the dps of those abilities in an 11 target pull vs 5

[winter shoal]

ish you need to account for sqrt scaling innit

[sullen dove]

who square root scaling meat cleaver

[winter shoal]

nothing is truly uncapped right, just goes to sqrt past 8 targets

[sullen dove]

what like everything in the game thought it was just aoe abilities

that like explicitly hit as many targets as there are in the pull

unless youre like a caster and half of them ignore that and just do uncapped to everything

[winter shoal]

idk sounds like an Archi question

[sullen dove]

just if meatcleaver hit x more targets sorta was the original question fuck allat square root shit

[winter shoal]

But also fury becoming uncapped l m a o

[sullen dove]

but i mean even still

less than double dmg on 6 more targets :cluegi: not good enuff

accountin for the other aoe shit that does already hit more than 5

[remote bobcat]

square root meat cleaver would allow our lightning stuff to hit more targets

from clicking raging blow and whatnot

[sullen dove]

[coarse nest]

A gorillion damagers

[sullen dove]

its only like fury and outlaw that heavily lean into the bit of your main ability cleaves to other targets

like some specs might do it a little too like monk blackout kick or dks have some shit i think with scourge/death strike or something

[winter shoal]

is sub blade flurry capped or no

[sullen dove]

but idk if theres much of a precedent for that type of aoe to have reduced scaling

it just only hits up to 8 targets no?

thats what i thought

[sullen dove]

8 targets for like 30% dmg on the 7

or 60

but yea bro what

[winter shoal]

That's the sub hero talent, idr what outlaw blade flurry is

[sullen dove]

give fury that

60% dmg on 7 other targets

[winter shoal]

Okay but outlaw players also complain about target cap

It's just a higher target cap

Hedonic treadmill type shit

[sullen dove]

yea but they're rogues who cares

[coarse nest]

For auto attacks, raging blow, bloodthirst, and rampage

Imagine

[sullen dove]

they prolly still mollywhop us

wasnt it outlaw someone linked in here doing like 5mil dps 1m above everyone else

or that some other spec

[winter shoal]

First they came for the rogue players and I was not a rogue player ahh take

[sullen dove]

high performers dont get to complain

[winter shoal]

Yeah was apoc and the guy's name was yeetodepleto or something

Goated name

[sullen dove]

real shit

[winter shoal]

But real talk if meat cleaver went to 8 targets, you fucks would be complaining 3 patches later that we're still target capped and you're losing to druids and dks being uncapped

[slim coral]

bring back odens fury

[modest condor]

nah i would be complaining the same patch

[winter shoal]

Based

[modest condor]

heck hard target caps

[winter shoal]

Why were they added again

I don't think I played the game at the time

[modest condor]

so that different specs have different niches

[sullen dove]

w philosophy if you are hard capped to an amount of targets you should be among the best at that target count!!!

and then they just fucking lie!!!

[modest condor]

they forgot that some niches are only useful once every 5 expansions and other niches are useful all the time

[sullen dove]

beaten by uncapped specs on 5 targets ty blizz!

[winter shoal]

Wait was that legion

[sullen dove]

legion was like all aoe i think

even bfa a decent amount

think sl is when they neutered the entire game

then gave destro locks their s3 tier set

and gg restarted the wheel

[coarse nest]

Do you guys actually consider the double down buffs

So much glowy shit on my WAs

[modest condor]

what's double down?

[winter shoal]

I feel like I remember playing ww and then they capped FoF to like 5 targets or something and I giga pulled something and did no dam and was like sorry what

[winter shoal]

4pc

[winter shoal]

It's built into archi's bt wa

[modest condor]

oh

i mean yeah

the crit gets considered in the bt crit wa

[winter shoal]

Someone really smart probably added that logic

Who could it have been

[modest condor]

not bigbowl for sure

[coarse nest]

Right if I’m tracking the amount of crit chance BT has I don’t need a seperate WA to show me if double down is active or not

That’s basically what I was asking

[winter shoal]

Correct

Unless you're using a really old version of the bt crit tracker wa

[sullen dove]

fury tiersets in the last 5 tiers aside from df s3 😂

[coarse nest]

It’s whatever Naowhs ui minions cooked up

It’s usually kept up to date

[winter shoal]

Probably idk

All in one UI packs 🤮

[remote bobcat]

agreed

[coarse nest]

I like it because it’s mostly plug and play

I alter it a little to my liking

[winter shoal]

mfs be tracking the most irrelevant shit bc they're gonna get one guyd in twitch chat for not tracking some minor thing that doesn't matter

[remote bobcat]

i made my own UI which is plug and play

and its none of that garbo

[sullen dove]

i use default and hit buttons

[coarse nest]

Yeah like double down on raging blow

[winter shoal]

Hekili pretty plug and play 👀

[modest condor]

but what's the weakaura that shows damage of spells above enemy hp? i looked everywhere and i cant find it

meanwhile UI channel http://puu.sh/Kvcn2/b23f98ffb2.png

[winter shoal]

!nsct in critcake chat

oh that one

idk too much visual noise for me

[young swan]

revvez ui just betta

[modest condor]

people really just dont look

[winter shoal]

I'll never turn my damage numbers off tho, that's psychotic behavior

[winter shoal]

What % of people do you think try to answer their own questions before asking them in this discord

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/krispy-kreme-glazed-donuts-donuts-doughnuts-donut-day-gif-17585791

[winter shoal]

It's gotta be less than 10% right

[young swan]

I will never stop glazing the sir himself

[sullen dove]

🐐

[winter shoal]

Doesn't revvez ui have super short icons

Like wide rectangle type shit

not squares

[young swan]

no thats naowh

[sullen dove]

we wide

widehard

[modest condor]

widepeepohappy

[young swan]

when I was using revvezui in DF i did make them widepeepohappy instead of square

but ive reverted since then

[tepid cedar]

That’s like quazzis as well only bad part of icons that I edit up

[coarse nest]

Yoo revvez has a shared ui??

Might have to check it out

[remote bobcat]

yea on wago

[tepid cedar]

I wanna know what revvez private apl is

[winter shoal]

it's just the maxroll guide innit

[young swan]

yeah pretty much

last i checked the only thing thats different is an extra execute conditional to prio execute if you arent max overwhelmed stacks or they're about to drop

[tepid cedar]

Would love to see numbers on what we use to what he uses

[young swan]

yeah, my only issue with it is that its elvui dependent

[tepid cedar]

Xan do you use blizz nameplate or player

I think tonight I’m ditching cell plater and ui packs

[young swan]

i use plater

[tepid cedar]

Going full default and bartender

[last sparrow]

🤢

[young swan]

i think im gonna yoink tmy's UI soon

[tepid cedar]

What’s it look like

[last sparrow]

i swapped from naowhs to atrocity's, much cleaner imo

[young swan]

basically like revvez but using elvui replacements instead of elvui

[tepid cedar]

I been using quazzii, his non elv ui is fkn legit

But I noticed cell is quite resource hungry. So bout to ditch it

[young swan]

my sub expires in about 4-5 days

so im not worrying about it for a bit

[hardy cargo]

D:

[winter shoal]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jpZXUe7qYmREKrVC4QSzuy

[tepid cedar]

Can you shoot me link to tmy xan

[young swan]

i think u just have to boost in warbreaker discord

to get it

i havent looked in a minute

[winter shoal]

He sent it to me for free

[young swan]

i also got it for free :chatting:

[winter shoal]

idk why tbh, I yapped about my opinions on UI stuff and he stopped responding because I was being annoying I think

[young swan]

lmfao

get owned

[coarse nest]

Tmys ui is looking real nice

Been watching that as they randomly post about it

Less hardware drain

Because no elvui like you mentioned already

[young swan]

yeah i need that desparately apparently

my specs arent even bad

wow just shit

actually my cpu is kind of outdated by a lot

[winter shoal]

I feel like there's no shot a fuckload of wa is more performant than elvui

but idk anything about addon dev

[young swan]

its just a bunch of other addons

same amount of WA

but elvui has a ton of random bloat

[winter shoal]

Oh interesting

I only saw the wa pack

[last sparrow]

does he use those new raidframes?

or frames in general i guess

[young swan]

I think he uses frames that are still in dev

[last sparrow]

ahh

[young swan]

idk that they're publically downloadable from curse or whatever

i cant remember the name

[mystic hill]

loosing a full raidnight to regression

[coarse nest]

Uff

[mystic hill]

feels so bad

[winter shoal]

unhalted or something innit

[last sparrow]

trying to remember the name of those new ones people started using

yeah un something

[young swan]

yeah something like that

[coarse nest]

It’s UFF

[last sparrow]

ah

[coarse nest]

Oh

UUF

Classic

[winter shoal]

I downloaded the preview version but I didn't like them

[last sparrow]

[winter shoal]

Xan the frame gen tech goes kinda hard btw

Had like a reasonable amount of frames on stix last night

Also on mugzee/gally but I hadn't pulled those before yesterday so didn't have a point of comparison

[young swan]

yeah its pretty nice if u dont own a spaceship

[tepid cedar]

I saw betterblizznameplates has a lot of customizations too

And the performance boost from player was pretty noticeable

Looking weak aura packs are big on frametimes

Losing*

[winter shoal]

I mean my pc is pretty alright but I went from like 50-60fps to like 80-90 I think

[young swan]

yeah its real nice

especially for the giga lag portions of the fights

[tepid cedar]

You guys using lossless or are you on a 5 series rtx

[young swan]

using lossless

im on a 3070ti

[winter shoal]

I'm on a 7900xtx, I enabled some frame gen thing in adrenalin

[tepid cedar]

Those fkrs at nvidia said they were gonna release smooth motion to 4 and 3x series cards

[tepid cedar]

Yea amd is huge for that ngreedia sucks

Turn off your plater and cell if you use it to test out for a bit

Frametimes are super stable

[winter shoal]

I stopped using elvui raid frames

Can't stop using plater tho

[red berry]

tbh i haven't been able to notice smooth motion when ive turned it on

[winter shoal]

Jundies too powerful

[red berry]

but i do notice lossless

[dense fulcrum]

how do u guys use BiS in the rotation?

[coarse nest]

With reck on cd as long as it doesn’t desync trinket from avatar

[quiet geyser]

With your 2nd reck

[coarse nest]

I use archi’s all in one macro as my reck bind and I have a seperate bind for just avatar and trinket

Works pretty well for me

[dense fulcrum]

and if u se a bind completely for bis?

[coarse nest]

No I just sit on it until my next reck comes up because the reck bind will cast it

[dense fulcrum]

so u have 2 bind

1 hoc + avatar

and the other reck + bis

[coarse nest]

/use Recklessness
/use Avatar
/use [combat] 16```

And also Ava+HoC yes

It’s a bit redundant to have both but I like to keep my muscle memory for Ava+ trinket on its own bind because I also play arms

I use the other one so opener is simpler

[dense fulcrum]

what [combat] does?

[coarse nest]

It makes it so you don’t accidentally press the macro outside of combat and make best in slots switch to intellect instead of strength

16 is mainhand 17 would be offhand

[dense fulcrum]

if u use that macro my BiS goes in cd if i use HoC anyway...

20 sec cd and not use it

[coarse nest]

Well yes, when you press the macro again when recklessness comes back off cooldown at about 35 seconds it will cast slots with it

[dense fulcrum]

so u never use the bis at the first inc

[cosmic sundial]

the point of the macro is everytime you press it you use something

[coarse nest]

No HoC > slots

[dense fulcrum]

no yes i mean that is not possible to use hoc and bis together?

[smoky vale]

hey you stole that

[dense fulcrum]

on the pull

[coarse nest]

It is not

[cosmic sundial]

no

[coarse nest]

They share a cd

[dense fulcrum]

so i need to use it every 2nd reck

basically

[coarse nest]

Well sorta

It has a 2 min cd

[dense fulcrum]

the first use is at the 2nd reck tho

right?

i meant that

[coarse nest]

You use it with reck whenever it is available and it also will not delay your trinket from avatar

[cosmic sundial]

Every 2nd reck of whatever content you're doing lol

the macro will use it when it is up

barring hoc is not off cd

[coarse nest]

For my brain I just think of the two macros as a reck bind and a avatar bind the rest happens passively and it’s close enough to being optimal

[quiet breach]

I am not using an onuse

[cosmic sundial]

this is correct

[quiet breach]

I just binded my BiS to the rest of my CDs xd

[coarse nest]

No on use trinket is even easier

[quiet breach]

I have a macro with reck, avatar, blood fury, and best in slots

dunno if that's the best way to use it

[cosmic sundial]

My macro that covers everything
#showtooltip Charge
/cast Recklessness
/cast Charge
/cast Avatar
/use 13
/use 14
/use 17

[quiet breach]

if I get mythic HoC il prob use that and have to figure out how to use it properly for sure tho

[cosmic sundial]

And then I have a second one just without charge

[quiet breach]

oh yeah mine charges too

[cosmic sundial]

[quiet breach]

I have all of them bound separately and the 1 macro

[cosmic sundial]

same

[coarse nest]

All in one for opener is very nice qol

But definitely should have separate binds incase you need it

[quiet breach]

sometimes I use only reck

like if I'm saving avatar but use reck cuz anger management means il get it back fast

so I do use the separate keybinds

[coarse nest]

I’m trying to think of an example..

[cosmic sundial]

I will say sometimes my all in one gimps me on my first auto so I don't earn enough rage to rampage as first gcd

[dense fulcrum]

but the thing is...is not simple to just have like the "all macro" and the bis on a separate bind and use the bis on the 2nd reckless cast and then when its possible to use without fking up avatar and hoc cd?

[coarse nest]

Pretty sure on gallywix heroic your avatar/trinket comes off cooldown but you want to hold it for the first add set to spawn to pad so you’d want to have a seperate bind for reck because you can definitely squeeze a reck in before the adds spawn

[quiet breach]

yeah if u have HoC it probably makes it more complicated

[cosmic sundial]

it doesn't

it will never fuck up ava/hoc unless you write it that way in the macro

The macro uses first written, next available. So if you write:
/use 13
/use 17
The macro will ALWAYS attempt to use hoc before BiS

[cosmic sundial]

or am I misunderstanding this

[coarse nest]

There was conversation the other day about how reck/slots can become available while Ava/HoC has less than 20 seconds remaining on their cooldowns and if you press the macro it will desync your HoC from Ava because of the 20 second cd they share

I have not run into this yet as far as I can tell

But supposedly it’s a thing

[cosmic sundial]

I noticed it once or twice but now have started keeping a closer eye on hoc timing

I remember hating doing 11s and under due to the affix making ava come up way before hoc

[dense fulcrum]

okok

[quiet breach]

do we know what % increase the 700 ilvl belt is gonna be yet

roughly

[coarse nest]

Yeah and delaying Ava by 4-5 seconds if that scenario happens isn’t the end of the world as long as it doesn’t cost you a lot of pad potential by waiting the extra time for the two to sync back up

[sour frigate]

1

[quiet breach]

ty

[last nacelle]

Hi Warrior mate !, Mug prog here, i have a question, can we leap throug the rock wall ?

[oblique trail]

You can't leap through it, but you can technically leap as it's placed and get out

But it's really not worth it

Since it's incredibly tight timing and inconsistent

[slim coral]

just go void elf if you want to escape

[oblique trail]

Just accept the L and sit inside the gaol if you can't get a rescue

[quiet breach]

how much time on reck do you guys wait for it to sync with bladestorm (pre anger management) and how much on avatar?

[slim coral]

although you prob don't need to at this point in the season

[coarse nest]

.2 seconds remaining on the cages spawning

Goodluck

I wouldn’t bother

[sour frigate]

balls detected opinion accepted

[sour frigate]

dark souls gameplay inc

[cosmic sundial]

I think the general rule is 24 seconds

[coarse nest]

Send both on cooldown

[cosmic sundial]

if I'm remembering right

I think he's saying how long to wait to sync them if bs is up

or if reck is up you just send, playing slayer they will desync

[quiet breach]

I feel like that's long AF I'm ngl, feel like you would def miss at least one bladestorm in a whole fight maybe even 2

[coarse nest]

Cool thing about Warrior is you just send shit on cooldown always unless you are specifically waiting to pad on multiple targets

[cosmic sundial]

Am I crazy I thought there was a 24 second thing with bs where if reck had that or less on cd you just wait

[coarse nest]

Specially when playing with AM

[tepid cedar]

Negative 18

[cosmic sundial]

ty

[tepid cedar]

Yw

18 + SEEEEEENNNSNNDDDD ITTTTTT

[quiet breach]

so the rule is 18 seconds? is there a post breaking that down somewhere on this discord

[coarse nest]

It’s not actually 18 seconds of waiting

[quiet breach]

18 seconds for reck* I assume, not ava

[coarse nest]

Because AM cdr

[quiet breach]

yeah ik, anger management

[tepid cedar]

APL and I did a bunch of tests with custom condition weeks ago

No point in holding

[quiet breach]

so ava is 0 seconds?

lol

[cosmic sundial]

even if it has those 18 seconds? (which would be less with am)

[tepid cedar]

18 secs on reck

[cosmic sundial]

just send ava

[tepid cedar]

Yea

Full send Ava

[coarse nest]

Go skim through fury lorrgs plenty of instances of Bladestorm being casted without reck

And reck being casted shortly after Bladestorm even

[tepid cedar]

This happens and it’s rare

[quiet breach]

do u guys like the unga bunga of anger management

[tepid cedar]

The only condition which makes you think

Is when you have bs available and avatar is say 6 seconds from cd

[cosmic sundial]

I'm definitely an AM andy, not a fan of RA

[tepid cedar]

And even then

Send bs without avatar

[coarse nest]

RA fan personally it’s easier

[cosmic sundial]

I enjoy having reck up more often

[coarse nest]

Tbf AM has been a nice change of pace

We played RA for a while

[sullen dove]

its like literally always flipping every season

df s2 am df s3 ra df s4 am (if ur a beta real chads still used ra and old tierset die s4 voters) s1 tww ra s2 am

next season ra

am just boring asf

especially when ur tryina get specific timing of cdr to meet stuff

unless its like giga free to get u just feel bad if u miss it

not rly relevant this tier as much dont think

[coarse nest]

Yeah I agree

[slim coral]

I like the anni playstyle

[sullen dove]

hardly a playstyle really

[slim coral]

was fun

wym

we had OF

[sullen dove]

just replace raging blow with blood thirst and bloodthirst with slam

nothing changes

of and buffed bb's was just really good for all the fights

thats why tierset owned

[slim coral]

yeah but the playstyle was smooth with that season is what I meant

even last season was smooth

this season kinda boring and basic

[sullen dove]

yepge

[slim coral]

my biggest wish is that they get creative with tier sets this upcoming tier

honestly I'll take a raid where moutain thane is bis

[smoky vale]

gm ish

[slim coral]

gm gio

[smoky vale]

gm bazed

[sullen dove]

ye i mean idk the word creative i think is just like a hard thing to live up to

like idk how you could denote something as creative in the sense that 99% of the time its either a buff to your normal rotational abilities you would hit anyway or it like specifically buffs a talent sorta forcing you to use it the entire season no matter what

and i mean s3 df was like a really cool and great set but i think that was lessa bout how creative it was and more just how it performed

i think in the level of creativity though maybe i enjoyed s3 arms the most? like it auto casting thunder claps and refreshing rend did feel pretty damn good

sort of slimming down the button bloat there of not having to worry about hitting rend/tc i think ever that stuff procced often enough

[meager hound]

That does sound like a cool set bonus ability.

[sullen dove]

but again it didnt really do anything but give a random proc on execute i think

[meager hound]

I'd like a set bonus that has us interact with it.

Right now the set bonus just happens and I don't even have to think about it.

[sullen dove]

yea this current one is both completely passive and you ignore it and its also dogshit

[tepid cedar]

full sotck ui remake commenctingggggggg!!!!!
blah thius part is sooo annoying. but ill update on the results. had basically stock with cell and cell unit frame. + ui pack. dorn was 160-185 lets see full sotck with bartender

[winter shoal]

s3 df fury set was cringe don't @ me

[slim coral]

?

it was far from cringe

[winter shoal]

That shit was the OG one button rotation

Before blizzkili

[slim coral]

simple and cringe are not the same

[winter shoal]

No it was cringe

I agree with you, I think current fury is relatively simple and not particularly cringe, target cap notwithstanding

But I did not personally care for df s3 fury

Arms clappa was fun tho

[slim coral]

yeah but target cap has gotta go

atleast with their current tuning

can't have uncapped classes beating a 5 target capped class

[coarse nest]

Anni build was sick!

SD casting TC was sick!

Can we get those

Thanks

[winter shoal]

Nah ripbozo anni

I'm smoking that slam + ww filler pack

[slim coral]

I mean season 2 was literally just rampage

but EU loved that

[winter shoal]

I know it was awesome

[slim coral]

?

[winter shoal]

when you rampage on back to back globals

HOLY

[slim coral]

you just complained that season 3 was a one button spec

[winter shoal]

I never claimed to be consistent in my beliefs

All I know is df s2 was dopamine straight to my brain

And df s3 was not very fun to me

[coarse nest]

It’s gotta be the correct one button

Duhhhh

[winter shoal]

EXACTLY

[coarse nest]

[dense fulcrum]

https://prnt.sc/oHgZrmtCzLN1 so one question this is the macro without hoc slotted, i dont know why when i press the macro, the BiS cd doesnt go instantly but i have to double tap the macro 1 time for my cds and then another time for the use effect of the bis...is it normal or i am doing wrong? because with the trinket it goes instatnly on cd with just 1 tap on the keyboard, but with bis no

[winter shoal]

1. is BIS in your main hand slot
2. are you in combat

[coarse nest]

Are you manually casting your trinket before pressing that macro?

[dense fulcrum]

im not using any on use trinket only the bis https://prnt.sc/KB8pDc2kN-Tj

[coarse nest]

Attack the target dummy and then press the macro

That’s what (combat) does

[dense fulcrum]

ye but if dont put the combat it only change to intellect outside of combat

instead with other trinkets the on use effect is instant

with 1 tap of the keyboard it just, here i have to 2 tap the macro to let the cd go and then the bis

[coarse nest]

If you are attacking something and you press that macro that’s in the picture all 3 abilites should activate instantly

[remote bobcat]

why dont you just win+shift+s, whats this lightshot usage in 2025

[winter shoal]

cmd+shift+4 on mac 🙂

[coarse nest]

MAC

[dense fulcrum]

idk im used to it since when i was a kid lol

[winter shoal]

I use mac for work, gotta learn two sets of cringe unintuitive keybinds

[dense fulcrum]

but i cant use it when im not in combat like HoC trinket? i have to be in combat

[remote bobcat]

well get used to win+shift+s because other communities will bully the shit out of your for posting screenshots like that

[dense fulcrum]

because if i dont put [combat] it change stats to intellect x.x

[coarse nest]

Yes because of the condition (combat)

[dense fulcrum]

ok so i will have to double tap always b4 the pull

a boss

[winter shoal]

P sure the reason it's working if you press it a second time is because reck/ava is putting you in combat

[coarse nest]

Oh wait I understand his issue

Heroic throw the boss

It’ll put you in combat

[winter shoal]

Banezi tech strikes again

[coarse nest]

Then charge and do opener stuff

lol

It’s cringe I know

But it works

Banzei smort

[dense fulcrum]

aaaah ok

worked xD

200 iq

[whole yacht]

Aaaaaaaah

[clever belfry]

banuzzy

[dense fulcrum]

ah ahhhhhhhhh

[clever belfry]

@oblique trail

[oblique trail]

@clever belfry

[clever belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/waah-waa-sad-wah-waaah-gif-25875771

[coarse nest]

Bonsai replied without reading

Bet

[dense fulcrum]

[coarse nest]

2025 and heroic throw is in the opener

Hollyyyyy

[oblique trail]

I'm playing my gacha games

no time to read

[coarse nest]

Gottem!

[whole yacht]

Who heroic throws

[coarse nest]

Me

[whole yacht]

Why

[coarse nest]

Forces combat so opener works properly

Thanks blizzard

[devout totem]

also to not accidentaly transform my BIS into an intel weapon on pull

[coarse nest]

/use [combat] 16

Goes hard

[dense fulcrum]

ok now i have another issue

the macro u posted initially is not working for me omg

my brain

[coarse nest]

Does it have ‘’’ on both ends?

[dense fulcrum]

Reckless and avatar goes on cd but the CD is not displayed now in the skill (hotbar number), but neither hoc or bis goes in cd

https://prnt.sc/o3NvZkXyUJNB

[coarse nest]

#showtooltip recklessness
at the very top in its own line

Will fix the display

[dense fulcrum]

ok but now why if i press the macro only avatar and recklessness go in cd, but no hoc / bis?

[coarse nest]

Is House of cards in the top trinket slot?

[dense fulcrum]

im dumb

let me check

ok working

thank u man

[cosmic sundial]

[coarse nest]

My brother in rage

[dense fulcrum]

because i was setting up the raid builds and the m+ builds

[cosmic sundial]

we've all been there

[coarse nest]

My helmet is tight

[dense fulcrum]

it fked all my order xD

[coarse nest]

🤦

[dense fulcrum]

xD

it was harder to figure this macro out than killing mythic oab xD

[frosty scroll]

is fury supposed to be pressing rb or bt more often?

[undone flower]

More often than arms or prot yes

[frosty scroll]

no, i mean, rb or bt for regular rotation

[frosty scroll]

appreciate it

[undone flower]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps

[sullen tendon]

THEY HAVE LIKE 1 ABILITY THAT DOES PHYS DAMAGE

[tepid cedar]

@dense elbow i jsut developed carp[al tunnel for 10.5 min on dummies with the M+ slayer build we talked about weeks ago. 6.88 sustained is pretty damn good bro

wanted to see how long it would hold atleast 6. better than i fucking expected

i got the short end of the stick on BT crits though. fkn 40% crit rate which sounds diabolically bad

[calm swallow]

I would like to see this build. For science

[rocky locust]

Why do we need to be in combat for the opener to work properly?

[winter shoal]

Otherwise you'll lose 1 rage from out-of-combat degen and be at 79 after your charge so you can't rampage immediately

Also if you use BIS mace outside of combat it switches out of strength mode

[modest condor]

i mean you're not using bloodcraze

[rocky locust]

Oh that's actually hilarious. I was wondering why sometimes I couldn't Rampage right after Recklessness -> Charge on my opener.

[modest condor]

yeah it's annoying, but at least you can do something about it

[rocky locust]

So how should it go then?
Heroic Throw + Recklessness + Avatar + Charge -> Rampage?
Or would Heroic Throw go somewhere else in there?

[modest condor]

you heroic throw while the tank is setting up the pull

[rocky locust]

Wouldn't that pull the boss? Or are you memeing?

[modest condor]

oh you're talking about raid?

[rocky locust]

ya

[modest condor]

i mean in raid you just wait for boss combat to start, no need to think about heroic throw

just hold your finger off the button for 0.5 seconds longer

[rocky locust]

It would be easier if my group pulled on "Pull" and not any time less than 3 seconds.
Maybe I should get an Aura that shows when I enter/exit combat.

[whole yacht]

oh i love when groups pull on 3 or 2 or sometimes even 6

[quiet breach]

mistweaver and guardian is the typical phys comp setup, enhance is melee at least so it does a decent amount of phys damage