fury

[compact knot]

i feel u

[sullen dove]

surely i will dinar something off of mugzee

[compact knot]

ill get mugzee down eventually

[sudden tusk]

[chilly fractal]

knuckles for SMF memes

[undone flower]

Bait trinket when next season fights will last more than 5 min again

[compact knot]

(we have wiped endlessly to the first gaol cage of p2)

[sullen dove]

surely this mickey mouse ass kill requirement is account wide

and i am allowed to purchase a jug of the mug variety on my evoker

[compact knot]

replaced by champion track delve trinket 100%

[chilly fractal]

yea but delve trinkets rock

[compact knot]

delve trinkets own

amplifier is my bis

[undone flower]

If you do delves before raid, each enjoy their content I guess

[compact knot]

well technically pacemaker is 6k better but

[chilly fractal]

with the overcharged delves they should give us myth track devle trinkets >_>

[compact knot]

i mean if you dont do delves thats just a self report

at start of season

[undone flower]

I work

[compact knot]

literally free gear thats better and easier to get

you can do 3 delves in the time a single key

[undone flower]

Or I can start working on keys and not do delves

[compact knot]

solo

[undone flower]

That requires keys / world quests shit

[compact knot]

which also takes like 20 minutes

its not a lot of time

[chilly fractal]

getting the key from Hallowfall takes 1 minute

[slim coral]

gz!!!

[tepid cedar]

lol have u tried it in TW?

[chilly fractal]

assuming you have radiant remnants

[undone flower]

Im not doing delves in the 2 hours I have before raid when a new season starts guys

[gleaming crag]

no its level 1 you get one shot lol

[slim coral]

[undone flower]

I prefer enjoy couple keys with the boys

[chilly fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/the-boys-butcher-gif-5041092981331887802

[sudden tusk]

goober smorbsmish needs to activate dragondeez mugzee acheivement to earn gear from a boss hes already killed

[sullen dove]

[undone flower]

It was so fun just before the raid we discovered bubbles in floodgate, we discovered why you don’t do trashs with him

[sharp cargo]

why are peeps goin thane on bandit?

[winter shoal]

Clappa

Big damage on bombs, pretty good damage on reel assistants

A bit less damage on boss

[sharp cargo]

wont assistant damage be better on slayer?

[winter shoal]

What spec you play for that fight really just depends what your raid comp needs

[undone flower]

It’s not assistant damage

It’s box-bomb they are doing big dam

[sharp cargo]

but its padding

[winter shoal]

Yeah

[sharp cargo]

or the bomb dmg is neccesary

[winter shoal]

Well kind of

[undone flower]

Welcome to wcl

[winter shoal]

The bombs do need to die

But if they were dying fast enough otherwise then yes it's padding

[undone flower]

Ppl just skips bomb now

[winter shoal]

I simmed yesterday tho and thane was 3% behind on 2t

So figure I might as well pad a little if it's not really costing much on boss/assistants

[sharp cargo]

imma give some hits to the boss as slayer

[undone flower]

They got 25% hp nerfed a week or 2 before turbo boost (the cc immune ones) and ppl were already skipping those

[sharp cargo]

might as well just slayer the assisants

[undone flower]

Assistant damage is the only thing that matter now in p1 and boss damage in p2

to kill the boss
For padding, bomb-box damage it is

[chilly fractal]

for some reason details says I'm 653 ilvl

[winter shoal]

Did you unequip an item

[chilly fractal]

no

[undone flower]

Did you recrafted an item and forgot to reequip it ?

[chilly fractal]

its all on

[winter shoal]

Is your BIS in strength mode

[sullen dove]

unless some raid buff gives me strength which i dont think does

those are 2 strength trinkets

might be an int bis xdd

[sudden tusk]

one trinky haste

[chilly fractal]

lock n stalk is a haste trinket

[sullen dove]

oh

thought it was hoc

[chilly fractal]

BIS is in str mode

[sudden tusk]

gn o smorb of smish.

https://tenor.com/view/cat-chuni-sleep-gif-20108376

[sullen dove]

same frickin colors

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-sleep-gif-27226330

[chilly fractal]

I got an idea

fixed it

I guess it was Dastardly Duos that was the cause?

[smoky vale]

help man

i have a stain on my screen

[undone flower]

Use the emergency tissues next to your bed to clean it off

[remote bobcat]

holy shit i wake up and the retrospective for fury got posted

Yippie

[remote bobcat]

clean it off

[fading sky]

hmm

Archie is 100% to positive

fury in M+ is rough 😛

Mythic+ is another story, one where Fury isn't even the underdog - it's hardly even playing the same game <-- i love this qoute 😄

[remote bobcat]

im very sad number tuning ideas werent mentioned

that arent target caps

onslaught, odyns fury, execute base damage

and i also think that thanes class tree is tooooo tight

theres close to no wiggle room

:(

[iron portal]

It is not underdog

It is just dog

[south kayak]

I’m reading the article now and I really like the idea of tying thunder blast procs to BT crits

[south kayak]

Execute was mentioned

[remote bobcat]

yea but it wasnt emphasized

he mentioned slayers malice and it "having fallen off"

[edgy oasis]

Nice write up. Thanks archi

[remote bobcat]

the retrospective is very good all in all

much agreed

[sullen cloak]

Which retrospective article ?

[remote bobcat]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/fury-warrior-mid-expansion-retrospective-hero-talents-current-issues-and-season-377131?utm_source=discord-webhook

[red berry]

i do hate how RNG thunder blast procs feel sometimes. like, ive gone six bloodthirsts without proccing that. that feels awful

not that this wouldn't also happen assuming it was tied to crit

[remote bobcat]

This doesnt really happen much in aoe if u have whirlwind stacks tho

[red berry]

it has. more then id like

but

you're right it happens less in AoE

and i mean, in ST it only really matters if you want to bank for more targets

[remote bobcat]

yea fair

[south kayak]

Not really considering bloodcraze exists

You can guarantee it

[gusty compass]

I see a lot of Warriors using Sprocketmonger trinket on Mugzee but why is it not simming that high?

Something i've missed?

[remote bobcat]

What sims higher for you?

Eye of kezan myth + pacemaker maybe?

[gusty compass]

Eye of Kezan and Mechano Core

on 671

[bright loom]

Its stat based when it becomes better.

[red berry]

again, that's only really relevant in ST. you aren't going to press raging blow in >4 targets even if crit mattered

and thunderblast is not relevant in ST

[gusty compass]

Sprocket or which one?

[south kayak]

Why not?

[bright loom]

Correct.

[south kayak]

You press raging blow over BT rn in aoe

[red berry]

not in >4 targets

the thunder blast proc is

what you're gunning for

[south kayak]

If you can guarantee a BT crit to get TB in aoe, you will absolutely do it

[red berry]

it will not be optimal to press raging blow even in that scenario. especially with reck

[south kayak]

Doubtful

We’ll never know

It ain’t changing lol

[red berry]

if bloodthirst just procs from a single crit on 4 targets and reck is up, you would have an 80% chance from reck alone

it doesn't work like that of course but

the likelihood of not critting a single mob in 4-5 targets is very low in that scenario

[south kayak]

Assuming it works on cleaved targets

I was thinking it would only work on critting your main target

[remote bobcat]

6+ targets, where did you get 5+ from

or did the apl change again

wait imma go check rq

@south kayak @red berry as of right now we do still want to click BT over RB at 6 or more targets

However: Slayer is even funnier

slayer be like:

[cold bluff]

is it hekili's actions ?

[remote bobcat]

no.

Hekili is trash

this is the APL

[cold bluff]

ah i see

[remote bobcat]

what raidbots use to optimize damage

[radiant plank]

hekili copies the apl

[cold bluff]

how can i find the apl tho ?

is it part of quick sim ?

[remote bobcat]

yesn't

like ur right

but hekili still sucks at actually doing it properly

[radiant plank]

simulationcraft.org

choose season 2

scroll down to fury

expand

hit profile

[remote bobcat]

or just go here https://github.com/simulationcraft/simc/tree/thewarwithin/ActionPriorityLists

both work

[cold bluff]

cheers

[iron portal]

I just keep pressing buttons

[modest torrent]

Instructions unclear, I went there for learning my rotation: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/K3Fyc8vTXCtpafGL?fight=22&type=casts&source=5&view=events

[remote bobcat]

checking top players is good once you understand your gameplay, i wouldnt go there to learn the basics

in m+ at least

raid is fine, but m+ is often too hectic to understand everything

from logs alone

(again, when you are new to the spec)

[still iron]

What a freaking battle tryin to get into keys

[jolly parrot]

Rogue discord is just weird

I got banned for not knowing it’s pride month

Crazy stuff

[remote bobcat]

I dont think thats what caused the ban mate

[jolly parrot]

I asked why all discord have this flag stuff now XD

[remote bobcat]

it looks really cool imo

the rogue one especially

people would die for those weapons as a transmog

Nod

[jolly parrot]

Ye I understand that

But why ban so easily and then write an immature ban reason

[remote bobcat]

u sure it was a ban and not just kick?

[remote bobcat]

i mean idk man maybe you said something more assholey than you think you did

[jolly parrot]

Not rly

I used „xD“ a lot

Prolly some snowflake admin got offended as per usual

[remote bobcat]

Weirdge

snowflake admin? really?

[jolly parrot]

if I get banned that easily?

[remote bobcat]

they deal with 50 people complaining about rainbow colors per hour

[jolly parrot]

Isn’t that called snowflake

[remote bobcat]

they are doing a great job

[jolly parrot]

I got told that yesterday atleast

I used that discord a lot when I played rogue

If they would’ve read my messages they knew I was genuinely clueless about it

[remote bobcat]

people say snowflake to call someone frail

maybe dont do that ?

[sour frigate]

Called freedom of speech iirc

[remote bobcat]

its a private discord server

[jolly parrot]

yeah but

[sour frigate]

[sour frigate]

Anyway its not funny to complain about it here

[jolly parrot]

i can’t contact any admins

Crazy stuff

[sour frigate]

Yes

[remote bobcat]

Regardless of whats going on, the rogue discord server icon absolutely fucks

that icon is great

[iron portal]

Idk about that

But then again, things are subjective

[iron portal]

That is just day, not even that big of a deal

[jolly parrot]

No I’m banned

First muted then banned

[iron portal]

Then it is what it is

[tepid cedar]

enjoy the ban bitch

thats fucking quality

lolol

[sour frigate]

😎

Very prideful

[jolly parrot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/839901938413469696/1235567646984896522/received_1678539332681065.gif

[iron portal]

Since you cant focus on that in that discord, you can focus on Men's mental health month @jolly parrot

[jolly parrot]

Based

[edgy oasis]

I feel one thing that isn't mentioned about warriors mainly fury is the fact they are never priority for anything. Just middle of the road mediocre. In terms of value for money. I feel this is as a result of each stat weighing roughly the same including dimin returns.

Ill give examples of what I am referring to.

Aug buffs.
Blood lust.
Rare items in raid.
Raid buffs(some)

If you have an aug in group least value for fury warriors.
Bloodlust least value for fury warriors.
Sunfury (maybe dragonflight annihilator)

Rare items with masses of 1 stat, just not for fury warriors....

Delves trinkets being for fury warriors I mean fuck me. I'm still doing delves no1 in my guild is...apart from warriors. Dinars....no delves trinkets.

We are just meh. Mediocre. My guild literally bring a warrior solely for 5% atk buff.

[sour frigate]

Just roll warrior

[jolly parrot]

im warrior main

[sour frigate]

Prot feels chad

[jolly parrot]

I rerolled

[sour frigate]

The ap buff has insane value for phys comp in m+ tho

[golden hare]

pride month

[sour frigate]

Well not phys comp

For any comp who scales with ap

[fading sky]

i mean we just had a leggo a couple of seasons ago

every tier cant be warrior tier

we do have BIS as a hunting item even if shared

[fast mural]

The season where our dmg was bad because we were tuned to have the ultra rare item?

[sour frigate]

[edgy oasis]

We? Or do you mean all str users??? Who has most value???

[fast mural]

Fury is the only spec that needs capital punisher

[edgy oasis]

Exactly

[fast mural]

Everyone using BiS instead

[remote bobcat]

yea im looking forward to dinar'ing mine just for cp to drop right after

[fast mural]

I'm the only warrior in my guild so it's almost guaranteed I get it if it drops

[remote bobcat]

im the only warrior too

i just dont have a third dinar item left

[fast mural]

It's either eye of kezan or punisher

For me

[mystic hill]

bought lockencock trinkrt first since i was benched on oab 😦

[fast mural]

Just depends what drops

[remote bobcat]

benched on oab? damn you need to improve man

[fast mural]

Even rwf warriors were benched on oab

So there are no good warriors in this game

[remote bobcat]

thats because they class stacked a billion dot classes

[mystic hill]

nothing regarding performance, guild has just weird prios with classes on certain bosses even tho were not that goof

[remote bobcat]

my guy

[mystic hill]

iwas in on mug and gally

[remote bobcat]

do u have a 26man roster or smth

[fast mural]

Imagine adds being a problem after 12% dmg and 2 dinars

[mystic hill]

24ish i think

[mystic hill]

i will not speak

[fast mural]

[mystic hill]

had our first full night on gally yesterday and got to 49ish % so im feelin good about it

[fast mural]

Having more wipes on gally than mugzee on reclears is the true despair

[remote bobcat]

wat

how

[fast mural]

Idk

Probably cause I went fury this time

[mystic hill]

isnt fury insane on gally?

i was dented and played fury on mug

[fast mural]

I only played arms on it so far

Only went fury cause I got the bandit ring with haste and heavy mastery + jastor

Kinda hard not to

[mystic hill]

can only speak for first half of fight so for but fury cds allign so good on gally

[fast mural]

Same for arms

Even the 2nd intermission adds align perfectly

[mystic hill]

fair enough, dont like arms in raid so i dont play it anymore

[fast mural]

Idk why but playing fury for multiple pulls gives me brain dmg

[oblique trail]

There isn't really a wrong choice with how much damage you do now, over just playing the comfortable spec to you

[mystic hill]

only damaged wrist for me

[pearl sequoia]

the fuckin myth stix no mechanics goes so hard

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/VjKG1MTZYLWwvaCQ?fight=last&type=damage-done

[mystic hill]

ye but i can play both specs and i reckon arms execute dam wouldve had more value on mug

but im v comfy on fury so i played that

[oblique trail]

Fury execute damage isn't horrid either, and Mug should die assuming people do the mechanics somewhat right either way

[fast mural]

Bosses only gate you by mechanics nowadays not dmg

[remote bobcat]

[radiant plank]

Say fury execute damage one more time and im linking the video

[fast mural]

Don't show us the bad designed spec pls

[oblique trail]

I will delete the evidence if you do

[clever belfry]

I WILL EXPLODE UR COUNTRY IF U LINK THE VID

[remote bobcat]

DO IT

[oblique trail]

Don't threaten him with a good time

[clever belfry]

Irreparable damage done to a class

from one dogshit AMV esque video

https://tenor.com/view/waah-waa-sad-wah-waaah-gif-25875771

[remote bobcat]

ok but that video is hype if you ignore the damage caused by it

[fast mural]

That video was warrior propaganda

[clever belfry]

is it tho? they didnt even kill the boss in that clip iirc.

[fast mural]

Yeah they wiped

[remote bobcat]

ABSOLUTE. CINEMA.

[radiant plank]

Explode this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOU85on5g8I

[remote bobcat]

this one is great

[clever belfry]

i know a thing or two about that one

[remote bobcat]

shut up video creator

you know nothing

[iron portal]

1.Get good stacks of inkpod
2. Get ready for coral
3. Forget to use coral
4. Inkpod doesnt crit
5...?
6. Kill boss with shitty log

[oblique trail]

I think you are balls

[clever belfry]

i still think my guldan strat video is funnier

but it never got as much traction

its gg

[chrome plover]

wtf anda 1.5m subs

[remote bobcat]

https://youtu.be/sXeCdvn1CgM

[clever belfry]

stop exposing my main job

[remote bobcat]

this one is great

[clever belfry]

this one is from

BFA TIME TRIALS MDI

[radiant plank]

Healers on purple

[clever belfry]

bug free experience

[remote bobcat]

anda

[clever belfry]

what

[remote bobcat]

what guild u in

rn

[clever belfry]

this raid sucked so many balls that i unsubbed 👍

[remote bobcat]

gally myth very fun tho

[clever belfry]

garbage rushed / unfinished content in every patch

[oblique trail]

He's in <<Meow!>>

[radiant plank]

Anda plays pvp

[oblique trail]

It's a Heroic boss

[clever belfry]

i also dont have ffxiv sub banezi

[radiant plank]

he is #1 prot warrior in rbg

[oblique trail]

I dont think I've wanted to call you a LOSER as much as now but I'll refrain

[clever belfry]

?

rude?

[oblique trail]

So I'll call you a noob instead

[clever belfry]

why noob or ruide...

[sullen dove]

did dancing green savage first savage boss... was cool... got a fat 0 parse...

he do be groovy though

[oblique trail]

funky floors

[sullen dove]

uptown funk you up

[clever belfry]

swordfish

[sullen dove]

and accumulator a

[clever belfry]

where is gio (genshin impact overhaul)

[sullen dove]

refined (refined academy)

bro didnt wanna wait 3 weeks to finish tier

unfort

genshin impact overhaul f is for friends who do stuff together u is for you and me n is for anywhere and anytime at all down here in the deep blue sea kitkat yggdrassil karat igloo tomrus torpedo yam

[clever belfry]

brother has not played

LCGIOPGH

[plush zephyr]

I can never go to dornogal on my server

literally broken with toys all the time

its amazing

[sullen dove]

my friends been playing repo recently and one of em coined it as being "friend slop"

[tepid cedar]

broooooo fuck this 8 mask run

2nd time i get to shaw as my final wing

[sullen dove]

not really the kind of game you actually enjoy playing but more of something fun to do with the homies that lends itself to funny silly moments

i imagine lethal company is similar but idk

[tepid cedar]

and i gert kicked friom the server

like when u got suck dragonriding somerwhere

stuck*

[sullen dove]

would you categorize lcgiopgh as friend slop @clever belfryer

[warm crag]

They stole the first line and main body of a tweet

[sullen dove]

maybe idk

jus made sense like repo was sorta funny first hour but then its literally just doing chores while dodging monsters

and the chore shit boring as hell

current wow...

cluegi

[clever belfry]

i think LC is a more competent game than REPO

[sullen dove]

prolly at least has more going on yea

[clever belfry]

repo Just doesn't feel good to play to me

[sullen dove]

yea i enjoyed like going off exploring and then running into a monster and getting 1shot and being dead for 10 minutes

but the actual game of collecting shit to sell just so boring

[clever belfry]

go to harder planets

combines both

[sullen dove]

think just like later levels spawns more mobs at once

or they had some update recently i havent played but eh

[iron portal]

@clever belfry i just noticed this

[sullen dove]

modded repo might be worth a shot tho i think its just weird to set up

[iron portal]

You would love our guild

[clever belfry]

silvermoon is instant disqualification

[sullen dove]

[remote bobcat]

how many egyptians are in that guild

[sullen dove]

quoi

[iron portal]

https://tenor.com/view/bill-clinton-zero-okay-ok-cool-gif-16822140

[clever belfry]

someone just called me that a while agi

idk why

[iron portal]

Fair

[remote bobcat]

u sure? silvermoon is full of egyptians

[iron portal]

I am quite sure

[sullen dove]

is this another non english speaking guilds are worse than english speaking guilds bit

[earnest canyon]

859

[remote bobcat]

no

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-cat-excited-xd-gif-6720096283455271606

[iron portal]

Mostly UK people tbh

[sullen dove]

chewsday

[remote bobcat]

and i also never said that non english speaking guilds are worse

i said that there are a lot more english speaking guilds so there are more options

[clever belfry]

never heard that

[sullen dove]

[remote bobcat]

AngryCat

[sullen dove]

i love pharah overwatch

[clever belfry]

it's not like burning legion or kazzak

or TN back in like wod/legion

[chrome plover]

🇬🇧

[iron portal]

But guild dead anyway atm

[vapid spade]

Hey, i read the article about the mid expansion state of fury, and i have a question. How much would it impact fury if the targetcap at 5 targest wouldn't be removed but whirlwind/thunderclap make that the 4 additional targets got hit with 100% of the dmg instead of 55-70% or whatever it is atm?

[iron portal]

You still would be hard capped just damage would go up bit but big pulls you aint catching up

[remote bobcat]

fury would be too op in smaller pulls and still not good enough in big pulls

[iron portal]

Would make you bit too strong on consistent cleaves

[vapid spade]

so it wouldn't actually change things in higher keys just in low keys where we do ok anyways?

[iron portal]

We do ok in keys with small pulls. And even there we get gapped

And who cares about performance in low keys

Everything ie viable in there

[remote bobcat]

blizzard does.

[iron portal]

Hell you dont even need to run healer

[remote bobcat]

remember season 1 fury changes?

clueless~1

[iron portal]

Season 1 was more due to raid and less for m+

[lone locust]

Those who does low keys cares a lot about it. And there is many

[remote bobcat]

no?

you got nerfed per raid release

pre*

[iron portal]

Yea but if we are talking about those people, they prob dont do big pulls anyway so performance there might be skewed

[iron portal]

And then after release. And again. And again

[remote bobcat]

well yes

after release

regardless, blizzard do care

[iron portal]

Less than you give them credit for

But ultimately yes

[eternal sundial]

@golden hare i got sent a Clip of legacy bfa prog and you were benched in it

[lone locust]

Yeah those who goes with 1-2 packs i guess, fury is good there. But you add like 10 mobs or more, just falling of a cliff in the meters compare to others

[iron portal]

Low keys are very polarising due to fact that people than run them rn are either gearing alts and blasting through or people that dont generelly time +10 until end of season and they are cautious

[golden hare]

[iron portal]

And ofc they want spec they are playing to perform well but in the end eveyrthing is viable in that range

[vapid spade]

hm... what about giving warrior some buff mechaniks, like talent nodes that buffs Battleshout to increase Tempo or Crit for the whole group instead of unused utility like Intimidating Shout or the Choice node of Cacophonous Roar/Manace 🤔

[eternal sundial]

Also bray is rizzing egirls again

So business as usual

[golden hare]

I don't remember bray... sorry..

[eternal sundial]

Prolly better

But also

[iron portal]

But get half decent Hunter or pally into key and he will deetroy you on anything that has bigger pulls

[eternal sundial]

Dementia jumpscare

[golden hare]

I prefer the term selective memory

👴

[iron portal]

Selective dementia

[golden hare]

ok realer

[iron portal]

Huh...thats new

[golden hare]

or is it...

[iron portal]

You dare using my tricks on me

[golden hare]

i've learned from the best

[iron portal]

Good answer

[plush zephyr]

Idk how. But my grandfather (he’s fine) fell off a ladder 9 times last month. 9.

[remote bobcat]

no 2nd person to hold it steady?

[plush zephyr]

No he sneaks away to do lawn work

[random raptor]

Should we be using Radiant power for m+ even if other weapon enchants sim better for aoe?

[plush zephyr]

Then is found later on the ground

To proud to ask for help up

[chrome plover]

he needs to be banned from using ladders

[plush zephyr]

Like a cartoon

[chrome plover]

remove all ladders from the vicinity

[plush zephyr]

He was a Vietnam medic you’re not banning him from anything

[remote bobcat]

how about you take him with you to buy a more steady ladder

father son bonding

Nod

[plush zephyr]

He has no feeling in his toes or heels or feet in general

So, when he’s on a ladder and pitches his weight in any fashion

Boom

Floor

Said his feet were ruined by jumping out of helicopters too early

[remote bobcat]

he seems like a cute fella

ngl

[plush zephyr]

100%

[tight roost]

Wait how do you do lawn work from a ladder? Seems like it would be easier if you were closer to the ground

[rare coral]

Thats why he fell down. Duh.

[earnest canyon]

"fuck sake, grandad has been jumping out of helicopters again aged 92"

[plush zephyr]

house work/lawn work/he'll make some shit up to go do

[atomic fossil]

vantage point to see bad spots in the grass

[clever belfry]

@gleaming siren schmididi toilet

[winter shoal]

HOLY

Anda did you use the funny matrix to generate this image or is it a lovingly handcrafted shitpost

[chrome plover]

no it's a photograph

[gaunt moat]

[clever belfry]

i used a bunch of matrices with weights yes

[fervent prism]

I have a question dear fury players! iv just started another warr and wanna build it towards fury. what would you use first 3 tokens on. this one will not do mythic raids and i think i will craft weps

[winter shoal]

L bozo

[fickle cedar]

jastor hc and pacemaker

[winter shoal]

A shitpost without the human spirit is no shitpost for me

[fickle cedar]

based bigbowwl

[remote bobcat]

jastor diamond, arguably pacemaker if u get to finish all 12s. if you know u can get mythic kills, grab mythic items such as best in slots

[winter shoal]

If I can't tell that a human bean painstakingly spent a non-trivial amount of time to generate something so dumb, what's the point

[clever belfry]

correct

irs ai slop

to annoy schmidi

[fervent prism]

thank you

[fervent prism]

thank you

[quiet breach]

can fury warrior escape mugzee jails? on mythic

[warm crag]

technically yes but don't do that

[remote bobcat]

theres a tight leap timing, between the damage popping and the walls spawning

its highly inconsistent, dont do it.

if spongie ever tells you something, its best to listen to him

spongie is warriorbrain without the role

[quiet breach]

thanks

[clever belfry]

Cluego

[open prairie]

void elf

[remote bobcat]

Cluegi

[clever belfry]

bro...

[open prairie]

i mean it works

[undone quartz]

so i have a question.. in m+ does thane push execute at all?

[smoky vale]

barely ever

[undone quartz]

okay thank you. i barely ever touch it and i was wondering

[hushed gust]

At most tiers of play, you can probably just remove execute from your bar, but the gigasweats will likely start getting butt hurt and start talking about a modicum of damage you can get from the 2 executed you hit throughout the dungeon.

[plush zephyr]

I never remove anything from bars personally lol

[undone flower]

You still need it on your bars bc slayer

[hushed gust]

People are helpful, but an answer to a question made by someone who runs normal and heroic raid, never above a +10 in a dungeon will definitely be different than an MDI. Cutting Edge player.

[undone flower]

And I don’t want to replace this button as thane bc it would change muscle memory etc

So it’s there but I don’t press it, to make sure nothing steal the keybind 4

[plush zephyr]

I mean. Execute is still used. It’s not even min maxing or being sweaty, it’s part of the rotation if nothing else is left to press, target is under 35% it replaces slam as a filler, which happens lol. Rarely. But, still.

[undone flower]

Slam is dead

[plush zephyr]

Fuck slam

[undone flower]

Soon ww on arms rotation

It is right behind you

[hushed gust]

I- still need to look at the damage difference in ST between slam and ww. Neither generate rage in the ST build, so it just comes down to what hits harder.

[modest condor]

ww hits harder

[flat river]

say less

[plush zephyr]

[remote bobcat]

slam is dead

[undone flower]

Always has been

1 extra button to win 2k dps, entirely lost if you try to press it out of melee, yes I’ll start to defend more seriously WW filler

Since I never pressed slam in the entire expansion

[orchid dagger]

PvP mods on Slam moment

[flat river]

how would you guys use BiS

[whole yacht]

what do you mean

use it with your cds

[alpine steppe]

What to drop for Odyns (Thane)?

And possible option to get Titanic Rage as well, I know its all bad just bored.

[frank dawn]

drop UF, swift strikes, and 1 VC I think is the most common approach

[alpine steppe]

Ah yep that works ty

[frank dawn]

oh I guess you'll need something else to get 2 deft

[alpine steppe]

Both points of contempt!

No ST!

[frank dawn]

ayyy fuck it

[sand crest]

love that the fury choices rn are doing bad aoe and average st or bad aoe and terrible st

[coarse nest]

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-first-time-the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs-gif-24656975

[fast mural]

do people play thunderthane for oab when skipping adds?

[alpine steppe]

@frank dawn hahaha

[frank dawn]

powerful and signature ability

even after being buffed twice

[south kayak]

30% of 0 is 0

[frank dawn]

the math is mathing

[fading sky]

Ok below rav

As sad🤣🤣

[coarse nest]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-my-eyes-cant-unsee-burn-gif-7225082

[fading sky]

Doesnt of also have dot part though?

[frank dawn]

details merges them by default...I think?

[compact knot]

it does

details is inconsistent for some reason

sometimes it merges troar for me and other times it splits it

odyns has always been merged though for me

[winter shoal]

Cluegi

Surely you mean only in m+

[sand crest]

yeah I meant m+

[plush tide]

My main and only level 80 is an ENH shaman. I never finished WoD expac so I rolled a Fury warrior to do WoD via timewalking. Granted every class is OP when timewalking but Fury so far is fun as hell to play. I haven't done any mythics yet onthe ENH shaman. Toughesat thing I have done so far is Delve T8 solo. Compared to ENH shaman, how well does Fury perform in solo delves and lower level mythics?

[south kayak]

everybody performs well there

some classes suck at solo delves tho

but fury is good at it

has a lot of self healing, DR

tanky

[frank dawn]

fury is a good delver. I would say it's a very solid dps in the 7-10 key level range. Not sure what your definition of lower level is

[plush tide]

lower level as in i havent done any mythic dungeons yet so would be starting at the lowest level

[frank dawn]

Fury is fine then, certainly not one of the better dps, but at lower levels where you generally aren't pulling as large it's fine

[plush tide]

i just returned to WoW a couple weekls ago after around 10 years from the game.

[undone flower]

time to prog the real boss

[south kayak]

what is you doing

[undone flower]

farming a recolor mount

in S1 we stopped raiding after ansurek kill

[south kayak]

oh okay

is it hard to kill her

[frank dawn]

with the dps inflation I have to think it can't be that hard lol

[hollow elk]

i feel like the reviews could have used more strong mentions of target caps and less execute

[frank dawn]

eh I mean, what more do you really need them to say?

[hollow elk]

i wish blizzard could feel the unhinged spittle on their faces?

[south kayak]

what

[hollow elk]

of being stuck at 5 targets

[south kayak]

it is what it is

all we can do is complain about it

and give feedback

and we don't know if they'll implement it or not

a pretty popular WoW streamer talked about target caps and that video got a decent amount of views

that's gonna get more traction than a wowhead a article

and he referenced fury at 5 targets specifically

[undone flower]

idk it's the first run

[hollow elk]

i think archie gets listened to more than your usual brown poster. its why i wish he was a bit more direct

[plush zephyr]

Dratnos

Yes

[undone flower]

first boss died before second soak

[south kayak]

Archi doesn't seem to think it's that big of a deal as many people do, Idk

but it is a problem nontheless

and he mentioned it a few times in the aarticle

even wishing for a buff for M+ in the wishlist

that's better than nothing

[hollow elk]

well archie cant just be full of emotion and anger as someone like you or me. he does have to hold a position of authority and keep things civil

[frank dawn]

I mean he blasted it pretty hard I think, but we've also had plenty of instances where our target cap IS fine when our cooldowns are strong

[hollow elk]

but yeah he did mention it more than a few times

[frank dawn]

but right now we're target capped AND our cooldowns suck

[south kayak]

It is but at the same time it isn't

even in S1, our dps went down hard after cds

maybe it wouldn't be the case now since our rotational abilities are a lot stronger

but it's the opposite now

I don't want it to be like it was in S1 but the cds should still feel strong

there has to be a middle ground

strong cds that aren't giga bursty

[hollow elk]

i want to get a strong look at from blizzard like they did with ret. get busted. get fixed get ballanced.

[south kayak]

I believe if OF is the only strong AoE bursty cd, we would be more than fine, maybe a little bit of a buff for BS/Ravager

Don't bother with TR

fuck that

[frank dawn]

be active on the 11.2 ptr imo. We suck at being active on feedback forums. and while I know other feedback avenues exist when warriors hardly ever post anything I'm not sure what we expect lol

[south kayak]

We need one strong aoe ability, not multiple

in MoP, the only aoe CD fury had was BS

and it was so strong

but it was like that because it was the only one

Too many cds make this matter worse

I liked Archi's idea of making Spear just a utility tether like the ones druids have

and TR could be something similar or removed

[frank dawn]

yeah I liked that idea a lot, and I'm on board with the condemn vs roar capstone idea

[south kayak]

what's the idea there? ST vs AoE?

[frank dawn]

roar for more aoe vs cleave/st with condemn I'd assume. It's also possible it could be more of a sustain vs burst argument

lots of possibilities imo

[south kayak]

I also love the idea of tying Bloodthirst crits to Thunder Blast procs. That's very reminiscent of BT crits enraging you and enabling Raging Blow in MoP.

That'd make us want to get a little more crit

[frank dawn]

yeah it wouldn't hurt for the spec to like crit a bit more in some way

[south kayak]

and please for the love of god make ashen jugg crit damage too

[south kayak]

It's also making BT a lot higher in terms of prio for Thane

[frank dawn]

if we all think execute needs a baseline buff that's kinda the same end result no?

execute guaranteed crits can feel good if the base is brought up

[south kayak]

maybe not because Bloodcraze exists, so you still wanna spam RB to guarantee a BT crit

[south kayak]

Right

[frank dawn]

so yeah I guess I'm just saying I don't think it's really so much that ashen jugg is a problem, just that execute (as we all know) is kinda beans

I don't think you can save massacre without some heavier redesign/interaction tho

[south kayak]

I think removing a lot of the RB mods

and reshuffling some stuff like SS

would go a long way towards fixing the priorities

[frank dawn]

I'm not sure you even need to remove that many of them, because I also think it's fine to have a very heavy focused RB playstyle

we just don't really have any other options besides that currently

but Slaughtering is my public enemy number one in that regard.

if slaughtering is optional that also makes hack and slash more optional so all of a sudden you've created 2 points of freedom to focus on BT/Execute/whatever

[edgy widget]

issue with a heavy RB focus is that RB is near infinitely useable, so when it's better than everything else, there's not much room for anything else

but the thing is, even if other buttons were better than RB, you'd still use RB a lot for the same reason - because it's near infinitely useable

[frank dawn]

I guess I don't think it's a problem for RB to be used heavily in all builds since that's just kind of what the fury rotation is, and it works. But I want to think there can be better balance there from RB is my most important button to RB is my low priority button but I still hit it a lot due to the flow of things

"the loboz" build kind of shows that in practice

[south kayak]

take a spec like ret, it has Blade of Justice that has 2 charges

[vague sierra]

I mean, you gotta prio something.

[south kayak]

now imagine they're using it over judgement

[vague sierra]

Or it wouldn't matter what you hit

[south kayak]

or sometimes over final verdict

that's insane

that's exactly what Raging Blow is

it's just stupid

no ability that has charges should higher prio over an ability that has no charges and a cd

AKA BT

[vague sierra]

But diversity. I've never been spamming raging blow to empower rampage while overcapping rage after bladestorm before

It's such a novel exciting experience

[azure holly]

what's the BiS nowadays, do you use punisher + BiS weapons, or keep ascendance?

[whole yacht]

mythic bis and punisher and weave

or if you cant

heroic bis + crafted ascendance

i believe

someone correct me if im wrong.

[hushed gust]

yeah, Ascendance if you can't get mythic OAB down, then just the biggest weapon you can get with it, mainly.

H BiS may not be your BIS prior to a myth OAB kill, so sim with that in mind.

[whole yacht]

true, a myth weapon from m+ might be better

than heroic

[marble pilot]

I crafted 2 2hers kinda sucks but it is my bis

[azure holly]

well I have punisher and crafted maxed out on weapons

so my final dinar is between the Sprocket cloak and BiS

thing is BiS is "only" +20k or so, and we're in farm anyway..

and I despise using that thing

so part of my wants to just buy the cloak 😄

[marble pilot]

Im probably getting a house of cards. I somehow still dont have a good active trinket after replacing my champ track Best in Slots.

Though im just a heroic raider these days so it doesnt matter much

[chilly fractal]

Delve trinkets

[whole yacht]

I STILL havent gotten the mechano core

[marble pilot]

I got a champ track one.
I'm using a hero tier reverb radio/eye/drink depending on fights.
No good use trinkets yet.

Oh and seaforium. I usually run that over reverb

[chilly fractal]

Pacemaker drink is what I used most of mythic prog

Well maybe not most but a significant amount of it

Until I got myth lock n stalk

[quiet breach]

by the time I realized it was BiS it was already too late in the season and I had every other trinket ever HC kezan HC house of cards HC Lockenstock Myth pacemaker

so like it wasn't worth going out of my way to get

I misread the trinkets chart

initially

so I never went after it

next season if there's OP delve trinkets you bet your ass I'm gonna be farming them weekly tho

I am pretty sure HC kezan is better than mechanocore in 6 minutes + fights tho

I believe the trinkets chart was only testing for 5 min

I'm only progging at this point till CE (if I pass this trial 🤞 ) so its likely just the best I can get

if I went and got mechanocore now it would literally just be for early prog pulls when you know you won't stack it alot and just want to maximize damage to see further into the fight

[dense fulcrum]

im curious about this too

[limber oar]

No

Slayer for more ST

And just rock meat cleaver

[dense fulcrum]

from 10 in dps to 4

lol

was using thane...

but skipping first adds

[fair star]

chat

is void elf better than human

and by how much is human better in s3 if it is better

[sour frigate]

🔮

[dense fulcrum]

i play night elf

becuase i play m+ a lot

[plush zephyr]

Meld is super nice

[plush zephyr]

I think velfs racial is the biggest dps increase but it’s nothing crazy. And I think nelfs meld is the best racial overall. Isn’t humans racial like a hearth thing?

[fair star]

yea but it has that 2% extra stats

i have a nelf but warrior just seems like itll never be good in m+,or well wanted so i was thinking of levevling a velf and trying mythic raiding

[plush zephyr]

Most of the top warriors on Murlok.io are nelfs

Not saying that should be a deciding factor, you just mentioned it would never be good in m+

It’s the most used in m+ by the best players for the most part

[dense fulcrum]

idk u dont even notice that much dmg imo

just go nelf if u planning to do m+ on a decent level or just pick what u like

[normal topaz]

Hey guys! Pleb question - but what settings should I use when simming for fury gear? What gives the most accurate output? Patchwerk? Dungeon Slice? Any specific length and so on

[hardy shuttle]

Usually I just do the regular 5 min 1 target and then just pick trinkets based on the content and common sense

[whole yacht]

patchwerk 5 minutes.

1 target

[chilly fractal]

2% stats from all sources and break out of stun on 3 Min CD is Human… they replaced the rep buff with the double hearthstone

RIP rep buff

[dense fulcrum]

mantaining 3.5-4m (depending on how the pull/try is) now...much better

[plush zephyr]

Meh. There’s tons of racials id take over that. Even Taurens extra stun sounds more handy. Breaking out of stuns sounds like a pvp thing.

My main is Vulpera for the hearth anywhere to do old content easier so don’t listen to me

[fickle cedar]

velf is op as fuck, +30k dps aint no laughing matter as an orc

[frank dawn]

30k dps when simming 3 mil!!!!

poggers

[plush zephyr]

Meld > 30k dps

[fickle cedar]

well a 1% is a 1%

[remote bobcat]

Yep

[remote bobcat]

5min

for me, an orc

Nod

[tepid cedar]

any tips for mythic ghally?

[sour frigate]

Hit boss dont die

[modest condor]

any EUers lagging?

[unreal vale]

Yep

[olive wraith]

3 million not 3 mins

[remote bobcat]

a real

[dense elbow]

Yep, our tank was being rubberbanded all key long. Everything scuffed, time for a break

[modest condor]

yeah we depleted a key to lag

[dense elbow]

😠

[modest condor]

try with an apostrophe

[dense elbow]

There is one in the comment, but this way the joke comes across clearer

Overall a good read, one of the better retrosoective's this season. While mentioned, it should prob have stressed blizz tendency to kill things with balance. But reasoning comes in the comments.

[lyric panther]

Saw conversation this morning about Gallywix kick on opener in mythic, how many seconds left on cast are people doing it? My guild was kicking 7 and it was great then they changed to 12 as someone found a note in RLE discord about it affecting the 7 minute something gigablast timer and its miersable now for first adds

[polar trail]

More like random 5 sec freezes every 30 sec, was fun on last boss TOP during add spawns

Now I have to bring my 16 back to 17 fml

[dense elbow]

We had things like footballs getting kicked, then respawning where they was. Or tank running, then getting ported back into the teargass.

[umbral wave]

any arms-fury double dippers? Is the performance in m+ really that noticeable? I've been playing arms but hate it

[dense elbow]

Arms does more damage, but not by an unphantomable amount. In PuGs, pulls usually going to make arms vs fury a wash. In a premade arms can more easily get ahead thanks to pull sizes.

Both Fury and Arms can do the highest of keys warrior DPS can do. Arms is more easily put into a random group, as it is more unspecialised damage dealer. While Fury got its famous target cap to work around for efficency.

Tldr: Both are fine, arms a tad ahead

Play what you have the most fun with

[umbral wave]

Thanks for the response. I'm pretty set on going back to fury. In my mind, I was thinking that as arms I would be invited to more m+ groups, but I found the hard way that It's just as miserable

might as well have some fun lol

I do agree that arms benefits way more from clean big pulls with premades

I would be so easy if they just give that target cap shit up

[dense elbow]

I get invited on the regular on a 17 key level and bellow as Fury, so, dont worry about that aspect.

Yeah, follow your gutfeel and just have fun

[umbral wave]

https://tenor.com/view/decide-with-your-heart-lloyd-forrie-j-smith-yellowstone-trust-your-heart-gif-17924566

[drifting copper]

On mythic gally my guild is not juicing the initial kick so my cds are like 10 seconds late for the intermission adds. Do I hold one of the first sets or just let them fly on CD? Reck is also kinda scuffed for the adds in p1 if used on pull.

[vague sierra]

Is your reck and bladestorm coming up for the last p1 adds with that?

After using on those, there was no way to use it on intermission without holding between that add set and intermission

[drifting copper]

I’m having to rampage until the adds are 60-70% health so I have reck with bladestorm.

Seems to put me behind the entire fight.

[vague sierra]

I would think it would just fuck up your first add set cuz I had it up for every add set with some holding so it should normalize between 2nd/3rd adds I think. Maybe you have less haste tho

But I couldn't send a reck or bs between that giga add set at end of P1 and 1st intermission adds, so I assume you're sending one there instead of holding for intermission adds.

Bs maybe, but would require high luck on procs. Definitely not reck

[drifting copper]

It’s mostly the avatar/troar

Not being up in time I’ll go back thru and watch some more povs before raid. See if I can’t figure it out.

[vague sierra]

Oh, ya, there's no way to fit those in if you do it in pull at on CD.

And on CD*

Intermission adds are at like 4minish

[drifting copper]

Ahh okay so I was just misunderstanding how it should line up.

[limber oar]

np

[rare wasp]

Do we bother popping whirlwind when thunderclap puts the cleave buff on in m+ as mountainthane?

[drifting copper]

Yeah I was misunderstanding. thought avatar should be up for intermission adds.

[drifting copper]

thunder clap is WW for moutainthane

[rare wasp]

Thats what I thought. Someone yellin at wife for not pressin whirlwind and usin thunder clap lol

[drifting copper]

XD

[rare wasp]

Do they use it at all in rotation anymore

in heavy aoe

[quiet breach]

what raid content do I have to do to make sure I stay on top of my undermine rep so I can get the 16% damage boost as soon as it comes?

I am currently progging in an extended group so I'm not clearing farm content weekly atm

[chilly fractal]

You mean the 18%

[quiet breach]

whatever percent

[chilly fractal]

Well 15% is next week

[whole yacht]

just do lfr or normal. and slap that bitch out the way.

[chilly fractal]

Depends how far behind you are but yea in general just run the raid kill the bosses

[quiet breach]

how much do I need to do? I wanna be efficient

[chilly fractal]

If you are super behind then kill lieutenants too

It’s not about efficiency you just clear the raid

[quiet breach]

I'm not behind I'm where I need to be

but I don't wanna fall behind

[quiet breach]

u only get rep to a certain point, I just wanna kill only the bosses I need to get the exact amount of rep I need

"clear the raid" isn't specific rnough

[chilly fractal]

You are over complicating it

[quiet breach]

I know for a fact I don't have to kill all 8 bosses, I'm asking how many I need to kill

[quiet breach]

no Im not I just don't want to waste time

[chilly fractal]

Kill Gally then enough bosses to max it out

[smoky vale]

vexie oab zee gally is always enough

[chilly fractal]

Ideally the 3rd and 4th LFR wings will get you there but if you join a partly cleared wing 3

Then you gotta do another wing

[quiet breach]

ty

[quiet breach]

I can do LFR on alts and get the benefit on my main right?

[chilly fractal]

Yes

[lyric panther]

I find normal pugs better tha LFR, I think its first 4 if you make sure to pull a few of the rep trash mobs as you go

[quiet breach]

nice

[lyric panther]

and if you use DMF buff you can go over cap

[quiet breach]

Darkmoon faire buff?

[lyric panther]

yeah the rep buff does some funny things with this raids rep cap

like I'm 604 over this weeks cap atm

[plush zephyr]

Yup. But who cares.

[plush zephyr]

What matters is - having fun

And fury is fun af

I do love arms though. It’s just. Love/hate.

[feral ivy]

Mythic gally frontal is it 100% baited on range or it’s everyone but blaze?

[junior gale]

Ranged

[feral ivy]

Ooo

[robust basin]

Anyone have any tips or guides/videos for fury on mythic bandit progression? My dps seems to be struggling. Using the top build according to Warcraft logs. And I’m whooping the ass off the assistance. But my dps on boss is garbage.

[chilly fractal]

are you guys having trouble with the assistants?

if not - cleave off boss

[winter shoal]

Do you have logs you can send?

But yeah cleave off boss

Use your TB and roar and stuff on adds but don't be too shameless about padding

[chilly fractal]

with the level of gear people have - you really shouldn't have to swap off boss unless other people aren't swapping

[winter shoal]

Or if your ranged are running it down

Honestly it's 100% a tank and rdps fight tho

Melee just kinda zug

[robust basin]

I have been hard focusing adds for the most part, our guys do struggle to focus them so I pick up a lot of the slack lol

[chilly fractal]

if you have a lot of people not swapping and you are picking up the slack on adds thats going to make the boss damage look even more skewed making it look like you are really low

there's a few ways you can go about this... imho... either ask your guild if there's anyone able to pick up add slack so you can cleave off boss.... OR just swap yourself to focusing boss and let people figure it out if adds aren't dying

[robust basin]

Can’t find log link. Will give it a try cleaving off boss and see how it goes. Instead of hard swapping to nuke them down. I think our boss positioning is a little slow to get on the adds as well

[celest sierra]

Man I’m itching for blizzard to release the patch notes for classes already

They taking to long 😦

Is there gunna be any for the 17th ?

[chilly fractal]

17-19 prolly or the following week is my guess

19th is a Federal Holiday so who knows that day

[timid forge]

started on m gally last night. anyone thats killed it so far got any tips that might help ?

[chilly fractal]

don't panic just do mechanics properly - don't stand in bad

you will kill the boss

you get an extra 3% buff next week too so even easier next week

[sullen tendon]

never stop hitting the boss unless there are giant groups of adds. If there are mechanics that other people can do ignore them. If your raid lead tells you to do mechanics, link your damage meters.

[winter shoal]

Linking damage meters as fury on OAB is crazy work

Literally only good for padding

Even shamelessly padding doesn't cut it

[sullen tendon]

do it anyways

[timid forge]

all sound advice

im sure i wont get benched following some of it

[winter shoal]

I mean, this is boss dam

Fury's strength is that it doesn't sacrifice much to be able to pad 🙂

Don't die and don't fuck up mechanics and you won't be benched surely

[timid forge]

yea i think the only time im gonna swap off boss is to cleave off the techs

[willow cradle]

You can def just hard focus boss and not bother talenting Whirlwind your guild should have no trouble killing adds with all the recent ilvl buffs

[sullen dove]

how certain

[junior gale]

95%

[oblique trail]

I haven't seen definitive proof yet that says it's only ranged

The only exception I know of, it can't go on people with blazes

(The P1 frontal anyway)

The P2 frontal can go on anyone and I know this for a fact

[junior gale]

The melee in our raid don't bait

It's never gone on us. Every misbait we've had a ranged always claimed responsibility sooo

Idk

I have heard it can be weird tho

[oblique trail]

This is P2, but its only options are me as DPS warrior, a UHDK and a WW monk

Melee however are never inconvenienced in P1 to bait, so I'd say for consistency's sake everyone should go bait the beam

[junior gale]

Might be a weird p2 thing

[oblique trail]

I don't know either if it's a P1 vs P2 thing where it swaps, but would regardless recommend to just bait anyway

Have also seen talk about it being prioritised on wherever the biggest clump of people without blazes are

[junior gale]

Sorry I can't bait boss might parry my attacks

[oblique trail]

If only that was a valid excuse

But Bozowix can't parry

[junior gale]

Im gonna blame bad baits on ranged

Oh can he not parry. I can't tell cuz we have a sub rogue making bosses not parry

[oblique trail]

He indeed cannot

We had an Assa rogue in all of our prog, and not once was I parried by him

The only misses that shows on logs are from immunes or auto attacks missing from no enrage

Because of the nature of the boss, with him having to hover in the middle (and room limitation) they for once had the idea of making him unable to parry

[junior gale]

Wow so kind of blizzard to do that since he only has two small parts of the fight he's in a center position.

[oblique trail]

Just like Halondrus also being unable to parry because of it being an omnidirectional boss

[chilly fractal]

fuck parry

[rose bay]

bring back 1% resist chance if we keeping parry

[junior gale]

seriously casters need to taste this wholesome heckin texture as well

[oblique trail]

They can already (if they're using Lock and Stalk)

[junior gale]

not enough they need more texture in their lives

[sullen dove]

🔗 🫴 furinya

[cobalt kernel]

Pretty sure i missed it but what is the consensus on the loboz m+ build

[plush zephyr]

ya know

im always

the happy guy who's saying furys so fun and fuck details but, getting gapped by classes played by people rolling their face on a keyboard not doing any interrupts or contributing shit other than just being there, is quite triggering.

[winter shoal]

Bad but if you want to just fuck around then go for it

[cobalt kernel]

very tiny sample size, however, tried it in a 12 workshop seemed ok at best

[winter shoal]

It's probably better the lower the key level

Also very high variance

[cobalt kernel]

think since the aoe buffs thane is just better, that too

[winter shoal]

I also personally really prefer the gameplay of thane over slayer in keys

But lots of people seem to find slayer (and/or loboz in particular) fun

You can do 12 on anything so if you enjoy it then do what you want

[cobalt kernel]

true and real. take it with a grain of salt but ive simmed loboz vs thane dungeon slice there is a rough 3-400k difference so in higher keys thane def clears due to the consistent mt dmg it provides compared to slayer

[timber hare]

I've been playing loboz in 15s and it keeps up with most specs

I definitely wouldn't play it in anything higher though. You really feel the lack of prio damage

[winter shoal]

Me when fury build that doesn't do prio damage

Fury's one strength in keys

[modest condor]

wish i could see in sims how much prio damage thane is doing on aoe

[winter shoal]

You can see it in details 🙂

[modest condor]

damn our prio damage kinda sucks ngl

[dense elbow]

Shoot me if I am wrong, but you can no? There is a breakdown for all targets

[winter shoal]

simc is bugged with seismic

specifically with reporting it as prio damage

[modest condor]

http://puu.sh/KuEr7/8ce5720d41.png

[winter shoal]

something about it being marked as a single target spell because seismic is a separate ability from tc/tb or something

idk Arma is way too smart for me to understand

[plush zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/please-dont-make-this-worse-dont-make-it-worse-you-need-to-calm-down-please-stop-ron-swanson-gif-14694419

[dense elbow]

Fury prio dam on AoE is dogwater tier, as we lose prio dam to AoE this is known

[plush zephyr]

its 2025 and arms (slayer) is more complicated than arcane

[modest condor]

that's not what happened here

[dense elbow]

Once again, MM does the same, but better go MM

[modest condor]

we do triple muscle pull

so i pretty much only do damage to 1 of them

[winter shoal]

I'm not sure if I'm getting whooshed or what but Arma is one of the simc devs

[dense elbow]

Ouch much, who carries the real AoE

[winter shoal]

Arma explained the issue with seismic being reported for prio damage in sims but I didn't understand really bc Arma is much smarter than I am

[plush zephyr]

i read as arms

disregard

[winter shoal]

Arms is easy

[dense elbow]

You are easy

[plush zephyr]

[winter shoal]

Arms apl pretty much doesn't have any conditions in it, therefore fury is harder

That's how it works right

I will not be including any other parts of the APL in any screenshots

[plush zephyr]

skullsplitter

[modest condor]

where is cleave even

[winter shoal]

actions.colossus_st

[modest condor]

wait arms has seperate apls for st and aoe still?

[winter shoal]

And execute and sweep yes

[modest condor]

glad i dont play that shit spec

[winter shoal]

🙂

[inland flame]

blizzard has heard your feedback and will be giving col cleave another 300% buff so that it is top prio on st

[plush zephyr]

damn silm looooooool

[modest condor]

thanks

[winter shoal]

dw silm it's all one (technically two bc separate ones for slayer and col) in wowa

is that because wowa currently thinks every fight is single target? maybe

[storm birch]

Mug'Zee finally down o7

Took longer than i'd hoped

[modest condor]

grats

[storm birch]

Thanks 😄

[dense elbow]

Gz, happy Gally kill in a few hours or next raid day

[storm birch]

lmaooo

next wednesday so yea hopefully

Shouldn't be too crazy

I was on double gaol assignments for mug so my parse took a massive hit I'm sadge

[timber hare]

Grats!

[storm birch]

thanks !

[winter shoal]

gaols shouldn't be a massive deal for fury

you drop frenzy stacks which is unfortunate, but you're guaranteed AJ refresh

also a handful of globals lost ofc but also not a massive deal

either way, make someone else do it on reclear

[storm birch]

well i was front right gaol when boss is held by back left and i'm also assigned to clean up soaks on 2nd mind phase after intermission

I just had a lot of responsibility but that's ok cause i still did fine even with mechanics to do

[winter shoal]

Yeah having so handle mine soaks is tough

Lots of downtime and dropping enrage and stuff from that

[storm birch]

still pulled 2.99 so it's not horrible. I had such better pulls though just ofc that's the one we kill on xD

[winter shoal]

Classic

[storm birch]

take what i can get !

[quiet breach]

first night of mugzee prog

I was having hella tech issues early on and it was a disaster, but then I fixed them and it was ok

did mess up some mechanics learned from it tho and didn't mess them up again once I understood them and saw them again

[storm birch]

yea it's got a bit of learning that has to be done

understandable

[undone flower]

and if you have a stop dps on second gaols timing, it is better to be on goal duty

third gaols i was front right, had my cd i just destroyed the add

[storm birch]

well we only did 2 gaol sets which was convenient

[sudden river]

best helm chant for fury? anyone know