#fury
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Tyty for answering. I was getting lost on why and never thought that
when making a macro to tie ravager, avatar and recklessness together, does it matter which one goes first in the macro line? i forget
brother ew
also reck first
but brother ew
would tie reck, ava, and trinket
#showtooltip Recklessness
/cast recklessness
/cast avatar
/cast [@cursor] Ravager
/cast charge
personally, i do not use avatar in with that
do a seperate one for avatar+trinket
Quick question. Why does it matter if you add trinket and avatar to that?
Arnt you normally getting a full burst window on 1min30 with everything and then a second burst window with only reck ravager and DR?
So it won't make a difference if its in there will it? Because it just won't use avatar and trinket the second time?
Genuinely asking because I am also fairly newish to warrior and fine details of how these things make a difference
well since it won't use trinket and ava the second time, why not just put it in?
and have a burst macro
it doesn't stop the macro from working
here, jsut use these two macros :p
#showtooltip Avatar
/cast avatar
/use 13
#showtooltip Recklessness
/cast recklessness
/cast [@cursor] Ravager
/cast charge
you stack cds, and avatara is by far better than reck
and it will naturaly line up every other set
assuming you are using 1.5min trinket
using it with reck desyncs them
Okay cool thanks.
So you don't want to ever hold reck to line up with your second avatar ? Even if its only for a few seconds ?
i tend to send it on cd in M+ only hold if its 10 sec or so
reck gives avatar and avatar gives reck, if they are a couple of seconds off they will just extend eachother anyway
Okay cool. Thanks for tips. You learn something new every day π€£
getting it on cd asap is beneficial tho
Last stupid question from me.
Obviously Sims are always best , but generally I assume buying mythic best in slot will be my biggest upgrade if I am still stuck with a crafted weapons. The vault has not been my friend.
I have hoc hero track.
So I guess its between myth jastor or mythic best in slot
just do a droptimizer sim
crafted -> M Slots is probably worth more than H -> M Jastor
click this for good answer yeppers
im curious how good jastor would be if he doesnt have hc jastor
ima run some sims on my own
Yeah i am not on my pc right now to sim and was just wondering if there was a given.
Let us know those results. Would be good to see.
I know i simed hc jastors a few days ago and it was like a 50k over hero track ring with mastry haste
well there is the standard list of best items to buy, but that's just in a vacuum. If you already have a hc jastor then buying a myth one isnt gonna be as important for example, but if you dont have one yet then it's a pretty big buy
you had double craft weapons right
/macro
Yeah
are people still running Circlet these days?
im too stupid to figure out how to add double weapons it just tells me unique equpped RAAA
and no i did not do double embellish
it sims equal to myth ring + hc ring for me
so i choose the higher stamina most of the time
ok i think i got it now, running the sim
gimme a minute
using 2 crafted weps and no jastor as a baseline
Hahaha, something always has to fuck with us π€£
I simed a few days ago with heroic best in slot as an off hand but I had a fully upgraded hero weapon at that point and it was a 45k increase..
Wasn't expecting for the raid to fall over so fast. Luckily I didn't buy the heroic with tokens. So on this coming rest I can buy 2 mythic track items. I have no jastors. So I guess myth best in slot and myth jastors will be bought. Unless the vault blesses me with one. Thanks for the help though buddy
Oo nice
Now for the juicy sim
myth jastor over no jastor is 2.6% with this setup, while BIS no jastor is 2.5%
this shit is legit about equal
so just sim it for ur gear
mythic cauldron 
5min is crazy ngl
dps in my guild isn't the greatest
good work tho
understandable

This is my fastest cauldron 
the DH has an excuse since he runs around doing mechanics
ur warlock just afk or?
ur looking at the warlock and not the ww
@remote bobcat thanks for checking man. Appreciate it
the one enar me has like 13 warlock alts and plays them all
idc about the ww
the other is just a yikes lol
he likely died to flying dragon thing
the warlock has to beat fury in 10/10 fights
ww did die, he's also a healer main
even with the gear diff
yerr
the warlock does usual beat me, just unlucky this run
did he not do the havoc tech?
not sure, don't really keep an eye on casters that much
they cast it 10 times
not enough
yea hes just not using the tech
or wait is it enough?
what was havoc cd
30 sec cd
it lasts for like 15-20 or something
15 sec
madoxd the loboz hater did u play loboz yet
either way that warlock is not the issue, the other one is a way worse case lol
don't use that emote pls
P U R P L E F A C E



PLAY LOBOZ
ITS GOOD
I PROMISE
(in keys lower than 15s)
on another note, at what point would you say someone is better than most at their class? (in terms of parses)
like would someone who gets greys in mythic but has ce be better than someone with aotc with better parses?
when u know whats going on and you never ever say "damn idk what i coulda done better"
cutting edge doesnt make you a better class player no
especially if all greys
based ngl
I feel like thane or just regular slurry is strictly better tho
Well have you tried it?
Parses only tell you so much, the person could be hard carrying mechanics (to a certain extent at least) and contributing to their raid team's progression more than they would by just doing dam. That said, in my experience, it's usually not an either/or, and good players will still get good logs while doing mechanics while bad players will still get bad logs whether they do mechanics or not
No I don't hate myself
I don't like slurry in keys
ur missing out
I am not
I've accidentally done a few keys as slurry this season when I forgot to respec after raid, and I've hated every second of it
AM thane is bis
are you guys staying DPS for delves, or going tank for it?
if im undergeared then i go tank
my main is 682 equipped so i just thane
or colossus
depending on mood
oops wrong chat
my vault has these, are they any good?
meant for arms chat
ive never seen these in my life lol
sim them to find out ig
If you catalyze them you get vers mastery bracers
But no
aye, thanks guys
Opinion on Myth Signet vs Hero HoC? I've simmed and Signet beats it out by by ~20kdps just curious what ya'lls pref is
If your sim says it's better than it's most likely better
No real feel to it either since most people put their trinket into a macro
what did u sim? pure ST?
Yea just ST
what length?
Standard 5m, should I sim longer for HoC?
Signet of the Priory I imagine
ngl i kinda wanna see that sim
Yes this sorry for not clarifying lol
hoc is 671 in the sim
but myth track
it doesn't change something ?
and if you have a lot of mastery, hoc will be less value i guess, i expect hc version might be not that good
I don't have access to myth HoC yet 
7min sim raaa
the french special
yes i'm simming for the bosses i'm progging
i forgor ur progging still
10 is crazy
ye watching ppl get squished by gally on pull is funny af
How big of a difference is fury vs arms in keys,
as much as I don't want to learn arms if its a big enough difference I might learn it so I can push
Anyone able to look at my logs for OAB mythic - I am stuck as a purple parsing player even though im looted and have trouble breaking into a better player
hit bombs
Should i value my damage to boss parse over that if my group just one taps the bombs?
Seems like everyone doing bomb sets at 130 vs my group doing it one set later
The difference is only like 5% in lower keys on avg but the moment you go towards title range, fury ends up way behind
I'm starting to push into 17/18s, do you think it's necessary to switch to arms? I don't have a group and mostly pug
necessary? no
but arms has a knockup ;)
timed 1 key tiday
Hitted a pr at gym tiday
w
gala57
w
@clever belfry balls
Hit a goon pr today
did u goon to madox
Why is @oblique trail not getting balls so sad
@gleaming siren Are you a balls enjoyer?
Gee I love balls
capyballer
@ballnezi
me, everytime im in rookery fighting the ascendants
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You are comparing it to your trinkets though, which are both passive trinkets.
Signet vs HoC is active vs active. Where HoC has a shorter cd which lines up with fury cooldowns (1.5min instead of 2 min) and gives more Mastery. So it shouldnt sim worse than Signet.
The only reason it does for him is that his Signet is 684 and HoC is 671.
WHERE..THE..FUK..IS...OUR...MID...SEASON...WRITE...UP!
be patient its not running away
yea i mean its a 600 str diff and while you do get a few less stats on use. signet lasts 5 seconds longer which is beneficial to fury's flat damage output
I did not expect hoc to get outsimmed by signet but i mean here we are



What are u expect apart from "we good in raid(idk i dont raid) but we suck in m+ coz target cap"?
i still cant ddecidee whether or not to use mechano-core 471 over my HoC 471
Acknowledgement but most importantly I wish to hear it from the horses mouth.
It ran over the hills and far away, far from the mountains and the blue sea, holding the answers we all seem to seek.
How are we to know what we are supposed to feel, without the leading voice to either lead you or me. Lost to the world, our opinions be. Leaving us only with the fear of memes.
bro's a poet
hiya, I was wondering if there's any way to run the droptimizer sim for one specific crafted item with varying stats? All stats seem pretty equal at this point and it's a pain to sim all the options seperately especially when the droptimizer will also sim all other possible crafts.
Just add the item into topgear, search it up. Then make a variant of all stat combos for the sim 
How do you guys generally make use of your signet of the priory?
I use it anytime either avatar or reck/rav is up as thane, mainly wondering if im using it properly
Easy, I don't even try to get it because i won't use a 2min use trinket 
I mean id rather have mythic HoC but myth signet sims better overall
(I also have both mechano core and focus lense, so no need for me anyway)
I usually sim "Gear compare" for those
I need help with what to buy with cartel chips. I have access to first 2 bosses myth(3 tonight) and have done all my 12s.
run a droptimizier like this
omg i didnt even know they had that XD
Is fury doin better then arms in keys rn?
dont think so, but dont think the divide is that massive.
no
its a massive gap when doing title range keys
but its a small gap in low keys
Gotcha ty
(gap is smaller the more trash the others are, the better they are - the larger the gap)
same dung, same diff, Fury is insanely stable tho

sim but maybe a gally ring hc if you will not get CE this tier
Hunter represent yo
what key level were they
did u change the ww color
16s
HFKA
and which dung
For fun, take a guess
ml
Nop, FG
the trade off with MM though is that its super complex to play and to pull those number you need to be really skill......hahah not really
No need to delete you message 
are u using WW at all ?
xD
pretty sure hes MT so wouldnt have ww
are you pressing whirlwind on packs
Ofc I press WW
bro is def not mt
SHOW ITTT
come on ..

HAHHAHAHA
30% buff helped
show full dmg breakdown come on
wait is slayer the move in m+?? cause i hate mt lol
Not the move
@dense elbow why do you do no damage
but it is more fun

Hi :3
you should play unholy
so what was ur avg dmg on pulls ?
gm ish
i mean you getting like 7-8mil on packs or 5-6
@restive pine i know this will sound weird but looking at your pic you remind me of someone. You dont live in czech republic do you π
5m
nah i dont π
nice
thats a lie

At least your cope capabilities got buffed too
That was weirdly specific
who knows


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What secrets do they hold
Funky is cat
oh my, mods!
Imagine if seismic was actually good with whirlwind
Actually talent point waste outside of tclap
Still donβt understand why it only echoes one of the hits
so much pink and blue
Instead of doing 30% of all the dmg ww does
Seismic vs non-seismic
disgusting
huge
indeed
You can fill with WW on 10 targets 
was what 0.5% away from optimal rotation
We need another 120% WW buff, for real for real
we need nerfs
slam 140% buff when?
They should honestly just de-bloat slam away, make it so WW fills its role while leveling.
Nobody wants slam
they need to slam fury into the curb
people getting ready to cast slam in mop a whole lot
slamwwtc macro enjoyers
Debloat every class we only have 10 fingys
waaa
Hm, only things I would want gone is... Slam and, ehm...
of
REAL
can we remove slam for fury
like can we do a military invasion onto blizzard HQ to get them to remove slam completely
add ep for slam on arms
we deleted warrior
we remove RB, and make all mods and dam go to slam?
real
REAL
ya can thank me in bitcoins
no
sir
we keep RB
π€
Only if OF gets another two sets of 30% buffs
500% buff plz
You need a 500% buff
is female panda warrior cursed?
nah goated animations
are we done getting sparks? i havent got one in weeks
she kinda thick too
?
in like a disney mom way
you have to do content to get them
I suggest rename raging SLAM or slammin rage
Why are you booing him heβs right
because
As the moronpatrol kept you burried; we still are getting sparks every other week and you can buy 1 half for 6x currency from vault if you fail to get an item
you are declined in keys as tank, don't talk funky
rude
he is allowed to pepper spray my face, but i can't be rude
If a kitten nibbles on your finger, you dont take a sledgehammer to its face 
no you shoot it
if you have enough haste you can press ramp -> BT or the inverse and break ur character model
I think its the inverse actually
Am I the only one that get annoyed that they call it "melee comp" and "warrior buff for melee"
Battle Shout doesnt buff 'melee' it buffs attack power
do you get annoyed at people being idiots when you play OF slayer in m+?
jokes jokes
is slayer pumping in M+ now? the one tier list site i saw has it over MT in damage now
no, also dont listen to tier list sites, also just no
thane is better in almost all situations
slayer is just closer now
ah ok, i mean i dont hard listen to the sites, just kinda check em for slight changes that i would normally not see
Slayer is better than MT, that tierlist fits my agenda and is as such a valid source of information.
lol
ugh, slow fury is now stronger than speed fury for me π¦
you can just play the other
yea but big numbers
Hmmm
What odyn's fury talent setups are yall using
i just took off deft mastery and one point of VC
to put 2 critical thinking and OF
loboz
why hack n slash and slaughtering strikes but no bloodcraze
does that actually perform well?
π€
Does good dam, and sims well, yarp
i took off one more point of VC and put titanic
TR?
Titanic Rage
oh titan rage
fake talent
keep forgetting
It feels a lot better than it is

that ain't loboz
that's modified loboz's
=_=
imagine talenting into raging blow
Am/exe/BT build feels a lot more like slayer should, than what is meta
that is for sure
when i make a new character i only talent bloodthirst and then leave the talent tree alone
i did my 8 masks as slayer, it was so fun
madox says sth
@sudden tusk play loboz
imagine meow
@clever belfry balls
guys void elf or human
The ones u enjoy the animations
Is fury above arms for m+ now after buffs? Sure feels better but maybe play arms for prio dmg?
no arms is still significantly better
the higher you go, the more significant the difference
The more aggressively you pull the better arms becomes
Its just aoe, prio and boss fury slaps more
fury and arms are about equal in 10s
But even that, both can time 18 and even 19
a little bit of a damage gap
π€
Aoe wise do
Like you compare the hard aoe keys xdddd
I think Iβm missing something because when I play fury has 100% sustain aoe and arms has like none outside sweeping strike?
arms is big leech sustain
What does that mean
exactly that, arms has crazy leech sustain
so does fury tho?
afaik both just have 3% leech
also im pretty sure he didnt ask about selfsustain
Is it healing or cleave dmg?
Who would like to tell me the dps % increase from no helm enchant to Greater enchant?
I tried arms today and lost interest so fast, I wanted to learn it for higher keys but it just wasn't the same @modest condor

add the enchant and compare the no enchant number

Other than Bloodthirst crit tracker, is there any weakaura that's super helpful for fury prio damage wise?
execute tracker
Arms has cleave, that is consistent aoe, and with collateral becomes a nuke.
Prio only matters if the other two dps have little to no prio.
94m was my highest collat so far
Like⦠one tick of a hit? Or total on any number of mobs
better not be the first one breh
Total
perish bernice
<@&257983573498265600>
<@&257983573498265600> i guess
cheers
o7
How am I ever going to start my own business earning 100k a year now
ponzi schemes are banger i heard
P sure banezi is #1 anime gif poster in this server
disrespectful thing to say
You have an anime pfp
Banezi is yellow? 
he must be chomped
somehow
Im not falling for that one

No
No
season is in full deadge mode
The moment they uncapped crests it died. They wont uncap them ever again 
It was alive and well for like 3 days 
it was sort of dead to me even before that because you know 3% damage amp is coming, you know higher ilvl is coming and you know you get belt in 11.1.7
and corruptions this week

It died for you the moment you starting using 677 crafted items buddy
like, raid is trivial, any work you did for keys or title has lost a lot of value because of gearing shit
its a stamp of pride bro
very exclusive club
"raid is trivial" my guild died after not killing sprocket in 200 pulls
I mean its a videogame that caters towards the casuals, you dont have to nolife it just because
i am doing 0 keys more than necessary 
I think this turbo boost thing and the raid renown track is giga good for the less blaster guilds
Yeah now but how much did you spam prior
but man does it kill it for me
during patch week or wdym
just needed the one button rotation and then look at feet 
Before you got everything you needed
I play fury warrior, might as well already be a 1 button rotation already 
Rdps and healer diff tho
So many fucked mine sets
about 5 days i think, but for turboweek i did 8 keys during the week and nothing extra
yeah it kinda blows that it REQUIRES 9 ranged alive
5 days how many keys
i remember linking the m+ thing and it said 37
This is our damage done over all pulls
but prolly did a little more
Thats nothing
Perks of not taking the day off and waltzing into +10s xd
Or well maybe not nothing as it still is 8~ keys a day
it was all i did after igot home from work
Blast keys the first day or two, then just do weekly keys for the rest of the time you're progging
uh, does the boomkin die every pull
ideal situation
yuh
Bro our boomkin was doing less dps than I did on kyveza last tier
Tbf they weren't a main raider, just someone we pulled in to patch holes in the roster
if guild starts struggling with roster boss, its time to ditch 
I started applying to other guilds when we took 16 pulls on Vexie week 3
Ideal situation would be to just log in and start blasting without having to spend 100 hours grinding bs gear to stay relevant
Of course
but in todays day and age that's not gonna be possible
I really have never liked M+ so I'd prefer to just not do them
Based
minigame is bad
I just want to hit bosses
dont need the cross polination
M+ mickey mouse game mod on god
I mean yeah I'd rather do keys than do nothing
just tell gm that you'll put his spec in analyzer as a priority

I don't think that's how it works but it sounds believable
what
So banezi starting ff arc soon?
I'm already in it buddy
I got no responses from any of my apps until now when I have 3 trials lined up 
banezi ff arc has been going for a while
I knew it
b a l l s
mr popular
Blasted the savage tier (kinda, not really) in 4 weeks
ayayamonster left unchecked
That's p much above average
All of them already have warriors so it's a "compete for your roster spot" angle regardless 
imagine warrior being tuned such that you bring two
Could've been a lot faster if we didn't have crazy inconsistent PF people, on top of wow prog still during release week
Banezi what's the warrior of ff
Ultimates are actually some of the hardest mmo content you could do. Massive respect to people who actually clear those
it was good enough for that during prog at least argument for it on sprocket, mugzee and gally
15-20 min of straight mechanical overload is some shit
I have to ask have you considered going outside as its summer now
There's actual warrior but it's a tank, other than that ig Viper if you're thinking of the pace of gameplay
danish summer is a lie
Viper bis
thats like 2 days a year
naurh
Yeah I meant like gameplay. I tried monk for a bit but holy fuck leveling in that game is ass cheeks
there's a festival in like a month in my town
Might step outside once when that happens
+10 is beach weather out here
9 months of darkness does that to you
Leveling is very bad yes
summer is a state of mind and a choice of clothing

And unlike wow, you can't really speed level the same way
Unless you're into story and narrative in which case it's bis
Viper though is prob as close to Fury pacing as it can be I think? (and starts at lvl 80)
i have been walking around in shorts and hoodie for almost the entire may while some of the people are still rocking winter clothing
And this has been like +16 and sunny weather
im a shorts and hoodie guy as well
perfect thing inbetween "its too hot" and "too cold"
Id wear tshirt but evenings are still actually cold
jeans not comfy, shorts and hoodie is comfy
You need better jeans I fear
works out better freezing your legs than freezing the underside of your arms
i am just way too jogging clothes pilled
I wear gym clothes 99% of the time unless I have to go to the office
dress pants stuff for work - instantly wear shorts or jogging clothes when i get home
I have stretchy jeans that are super comfy tho
I have 1 pair of stretchy jeans and they are sort of dying

so im saving their wears for crucial moments
Theres no such thing as comfy jeans
jeans will never be comfy
but theres stretchy jeans and then whatever the fk girls wear
Don't sleep on leggings
i dont like stuff that tight to my skin
Yeah im not gonna do that
They aren't really jeans so much as pants idk
Not denim
Yes but im not gonna be wearing leggings 
I'm wearing leggings rn
gotta deadlift in a bit so don't want to fuck up my shins
uniqlo has some giga bis stretchy pants that look like slacks/khakis, not sure if that's a thing in EU
I wear those to the office sometimes tho
Yeah i dont think you understand the issue which i would have with leggings 
Why would i wear something other than boxers under my shorts
But slacks aren't comfortable
the aforementioned uniqlo stretchy pants notwithstanding
Oh no not slacks i meant like sweatpants
When Fyralakk legendary was a thing, what did you guys think about the gold sink? It's making my blood boil because how expensive it is, so unnecessary
Everything about that axe was shit
And then they decided to make the central focus of colossus the active effect of the axe that people didn't like
Genius move
It looks cool, specially the enchantment but gold amount is so aids, gotta buy a wow token to afford the materials
Samurai
They are just comfy pants 
Not warrior?
w arms warrior
Samurai aoe feels so good
But Warrior is like Arms tank
like so many different abilities that I think flow giga nicely
Is it not the new one i forgot the name
and the lvl 100 tendo abilities also look sick
Viper prolly closer to fury idk tho havenβt played it much
I think they made it easier to play since launch
What my friends tell me at least
Something about removing positional
But so samurai arms viper fury
And paladin prot probably idk only class with a shield

Gunbreaker feels cool only at lvl 62 or sum
Paladin is definitely not protwar
Gunbreaker is probably closer
is there even a big plate class thats not a tank in ff14?
dark knight looks cool but itβs also like John tank
one of the higher dps tanks tho 
Dark knight looks really fucking cool
You know what else sounds cool? Black Mage
You know what's actually the least cool? Black Mage
I got baited so hard
Iβm uh geared to play picto with my friends
i just play tank becuase i dont give a shit about positionals
so thatβll be somefin
so ill play that or rdps
Black Mage > Ice and Fire magic like what
Dark knight in the FF15 car mount
And void elf warrs in chat
neat
got that years ago
I did them religiously and still haven't gotten it. I'm hoping to get it this time around tho lmao
Just tried to tank a melee range Suppression with Enraged Regen and got bonked
Sadge
Got have def stance up brother
mmmmm that's the problem
Viper and reaper are the goats
Thereβs an easy macro you can use so you minimize down time
hey looking at the wowhead guide is it suggesting to run the duskthread pre gally kill or am i miss understanding it
what would that be?
Stance swapping Fury Warrior
#showtooltip
/cast [stance:2]!Defensive Stance;!Berserker Stance
It's reversed. The capital punisher drops from gally so it would have to be post. And the setup would have you using 3 embellishments. Read it as the crafted weapon and mace should be swapped.
stand just barely outside the circle, thats still melee range
you really dont, it deals like 7-8mil damage
with SR
I mean yea, SR works too. Either way it works.
yea, u just need to make sure ur outside of the blue circle while staying in melee range and ur chilling
?? cant you only use 2 embellishments?
Correct. That is why it's a clue that it's not a correct list. Oh I see, that makes both setups use 3 embellishments.
ok u just crossed it out
can u or can u not use 3 embellishments
thats what i thought
I think that column used to be an alternative gear listing and got changed to "post gally"
It's been discussed before, and the TLDR is that it should say pre-Gally, and not post-Gally
Whether Archi is actually aware of this I am not 100% certain of, but it should be read as such
As for the embellishments, pressing the "embellishments section" right above the list also at least describes it as an either/or scenario whether you'd go Ascension or 2x Dusk
Tbf it also just doesnt matter - BIS lists have never ever been an accurate source of information unless you're talking weapons, trinkets and rare items
and even those still have big sim variation depending on char
people think BIS lists work like they do in classic and it shows
is that the edge of melee? and is 677 enough to do that on lol
why wouldnt they be accurate? its not like the people posting these lists just picked random items.
they went through the ptrs and checked multiple pieces of gear combinations and came out with thos items right? the only variations at that point are just from races which also have best for dps/utility and whatnot.
It'd be more correct to call them "irrelevant", as many different combinations of gear will perform about equally as well, or close enough to where you would never in practice tell the difference
The only relevant items are as mentioned weapons (to an extent, if no cantrip weapons then it doesn't really matter either), trinkets and any other rare items that might be in the season
Bis lists at this point are more just a frame of reference, and the vast majority of people wont ever really have the option to pick and choose between all the select pieces on the list to begin with
yes and yes
gallywix has a MASSIVE melee range hitbox
way bigger than you would expect
Or just the number of targets, or 1 talent change might just change your whole bis list
one combination of 16 items comes out at 500 more dps than a different combination of 16 items - that doesn't mean you really want to go for that first combination of items - you want to go for items that perform well based on what you have
If you want the « bis list » you can go on fury tab and check the gear
https://www.simulationcraft.org/reports/TWW2_Raid.html
thats just conjecture. my point is that the list on wowhead or w.e has been tested by someone and proven to do at least to that person better than whatever else they had at the moment. obv everyone should sim and pick and choose the best of whatever they got available. but that dont change the fact that the list isnt "irrelevant"
Kronzo I'm finally setting up to learn arms, do you know how I can find out which abilities are the closet to fury so I can put them in the right spot? e.g rampage on my bars will be where i put mortal strikes @remote bobcat
arms 
idk why u specifically ping me for that but cool man happy for you
oh because you've been helpful before and I asked a question
You know i did the exact same thing just few hours ago Raizer
I have BT and MS share a keybind, RB and Overpower share one too
rampage button i have CS on
Then my laziness took over and I did target capped keys
It most definitely is an irrelevant piece of information for the vast majority of people, because they need access to all the pieces on the list for it to be relevant, which is not feasible for a lot of people
You keybind rend or you just tc?
Bis lists at this point are just added for the sake of having it
4
4 tclap, 5 rend
but im lazy i never click 5
i always tclap to apply rend
i dont see a rend in my spellbook
seems about right
Yeah Iβll do like slam as fury and ignore the existence of rend
title range player trying really hard not to swap specs, colored edition
skill wise you probably are title range no?
Shield > 2 swords
maybe who knows
real
ive gotten title in the past but things have gotten a lot more competitive since then
cuz u play fury
I don't even really want to play arms but I'm starting to feel useless lol
i tried arms but after a couple of days i told my team that i would ragequit before we get anywhere so im just going back fury
Thatβs exactly what made me have 15 min of arms learning prep, to give up
maybe if wirldwind buff hit more than 5 targets... even as diminishing damage after 5...
force tanks to 5 target pull max >
imho meat cleaver should stay at 5, i just think tblast needs to do way more in uncapped situations
Soft cap at 5 means you still do almost no damage to 8targets, but you can procc things on everyone 
ill take it
Thatβs what the soft target cap 5 do to windwalker monk, if they moved their main damage sources to soft 8, they would do 60% more damage (I donβt remember the number but it was around that)
i understand it isnt fun
I didnβt even hit the dummies, I placed the spellsβ¦ and I understood it would not be fun
Fury looks and feels so good
its mid
The numbers arnt good
wdym we just got our buffs without our bug being fixed
big upgrade
(nothing changed)
And slayer is fine but SD/slayer stacks in keys is awful feeling for me
I just wanted like a similar buff to what they did in that last tuning like a 5% nudge in some way and I woulda been made happy
So close yet so far
I will bet on no fury tuning until next season
Itβs possible !
yeh I would suspect tuning is largely done until next season
probs ye
Once I get my mythic BiS on Tuesday I just need mythic HoC and Iβll be at maximum capacity
did u buy myth jastor?
Fury is really fine in raid, Blizz will not used their budget to tune something few weeks before ptr begins
From there only blizzard can make me stronger πππ
lot of confidence in that mythic bis showing
Not CE
Iβm not gonna hold dinar for mythic jastor either because Iβm impatient
Although I kinda like kezan for m+ so idk
I bought BiS and I will hold dinar for spend everything on 2 Gally shit
Weβre like 24% on mugzee so itβll be another 2-3 weeks until gally is dead so
I figure Iβma spend everything now
im buying my myth jastor
i have no hc jastor rn
giga upgrade
1.5% upgrade for me
Oh yea I bought heroic jastor right away 
So Iβll buy jastor obviously, and either eye or capital (I will use the last dinar as bad luck protection
)
Im really proud of my lockncock it really deals a lot
i have myth hoc, myth bis
already
so im kidna just idle
see if anythign drops
i will buy jastor on reset
last dinars are open for me yepppers
It is funny that Iβll never play hoc this season
I got on before work this morning and was applying for keys to get some of my declines out of the way. Got invited to 17 floodgate with a monk pal Druid and Hunter in it. Joined was about to load in and then told them actually I shouldnβt run cause Iβd be rushing π€£ why did I do that to myself
why not
It is dps loss to my lockncock/pacemaker
And most likely wonβt ever
you be wildin
i think its slightly cope
if ur playing hectic add cleave
then HoC goes crazy
which boss ?
Ah a fellow boss damage parse enjoyer !!

u dont kill adds in time = boss alive
the adds die anyway
no they dont
we are 683 kronzo
yes
Is there another raid in recent memory that CE was this achievable. It seems pretty basic to get this time around
and for vexie : i don't give a shit about the first boss
Long as you have a semi competent group that doesnβt break up
you aint a true parselord
what do u do after prog
so boss dam is relevant for me when the adds are not or die in few sec
i can delete my char

farm + prepping next raid main
After prog its title push time!
you mean prepping extra warrior(s)
i don't like m+
so it's farm the raid or unsub
either monk/dk/or war again but i will allow arms spec in my life
getting wow 2 before foory buffs
is it heresy ?
π€£π€£
wtf
why my monk is so green on the screen
gnome propaganda
show us your character screen before talking
i got some chars muhself
no 
what is melee range? 6y rite
if i wanted to try OF in a multi target raid build what do i drop? VC gets me the point before OF do i drop jjug?
my life is a lie
ur disgusting
unirnically
@modest condor can u ban joufflo
that's the purpose
huh
he plays gnome
refer to my statement
@remote bobcat i'm in my first key as 1 sword loser
it's around 2.6% in my keys
yes it's in ST that TD is funny damage






