#fury

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remote bobcat
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there is no individual setting that gives you an accurate picture, unfortunately. M+ requires multiple sims to gain context.
People tend to do: 1tar 3min (with BL), 1tar 3min (no BL), 5tar 90sec, 10tar 40sec (with and without BL), etc etc - it's important to turn off unexpected raidbuffs such as monk touch if you're not playing with that class

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you can also go into 5min sims

chilly fractal
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From this angle and not reading “Mount” I thought that was an axe

remote bobcat
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you can go shorter too

remote bobcat
unreal onyx
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fyrakk from the alliance

remote bobcat
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I want u to get a great mugzee log

compact knot
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this is the 3rd key in a row

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ive had someone asked if they buffed fury

remote bobcat
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stream that shii

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peak content

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madox refuses to go funny builds

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@sudden tusk

compact knot
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discord stream

remote bobcat
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nah go on twitch

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im vibing with a girl rn

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cant join vc

unreal onyx
unreal onyx
remote bobcat
unreal onyx
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30 critcake

remote bobcat
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oh nawr

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next reclear

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trust

south kayak
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"burst"

remote bobcat
compact knot
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look at all these little mountain thaners

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below the slayer chad

remote bobcat
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calling yourself a chad is crazywork

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you are chadding on them tbf

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but still

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ykwim

south kayak
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who is that guy with 11 pis lmao

compact knot
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13 priory

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im working my way up

remote bobcat
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twitch strum where

compact knot
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i dont have streamlabs set up

unreal onyx
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gotta kill gally first

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but I won't be there for kill propably

south kayak
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is Loboz here

unreal onyx
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2 more raid days for me before vacation

timber hare
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Loboz isnt a person

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its an ideal

lunar steeple
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How accurate is the slayer aoe fury opener on wowhead

undone flower
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@loboz

proud tide
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How are buffs doing @ high keys? doesnt look like a big change tbh

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at mythicstats website we are still bottom 😦

remote bobcat
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cuz they found OF being shit quite early on

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so there likely wasnt a lot of testing

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they could prove me wrong tho

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im just speculating

undone flower
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and i'm not conviced it's that important, beside bad moves ofc

winter shoal
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I mean it refreshes ww one cast too early but after the BF rampage it's kinda just filler

slim pollen
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Lesser Twilight Devastation tooltip: 1,6 mill
Greater Twilight Devastation tooltip: 2,8 mill

Greater proc on target dummy: 1,6 mill
How come? 🤔

south kayak
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nerf right now!!

undone flower
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it's target cap, so did you use aoe dummies ?

compact knot
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its not just fury warrior

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its loboz fury warrior

south kayak
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how much damage is of doing

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4%

compact knot
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5.3%

south kayak
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OF should be at least 8%

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don't @ me

slim pollen
compact knot
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but the QoL of giving whirlwind stacks and enrage is like

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really really good

south kayak
compact knot
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the staircase

undone flower
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the QoL of thunderblast giving ww stacks is also good ^^

remote bobcat
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i played a mechagon pre-buff

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with OF doing 7%

south kayak
arctic portal
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is Twilight oversimming by chance? shows as my best head enchant out of nowhere ><

compact knot
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unfort

south kayak
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btw don't bother with reverb for WW

south kayak
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it's still trash

remote bobcat
compact knot
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0.4% is better than anything else in the warrior tree

south kayak
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what % of WW is reverb

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show

compact knot
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0.4%

south kayak
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gg

undone flower
winter shoal
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Reverb is extremely shit with WW

south kayak
winter shoal
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Bc it only copies the first hit

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Not the whole ww cast

south kayak
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Nice

arctic portal
south kayak
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gg

remote bobcat
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btw do we know why the haste amp on rik reverb adds is so inconsistent?

winter shoal
remote bobcat
remote bobcat
compact knot
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i have no mastery or vers

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lol

south kayak
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not 30% like now

remote bobcat
undone flower
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thx god loboz plays full haste

south kayak
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and WW did damage

remote bobcat
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do u not even have 10k mast?

compact knot
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i have 10.4 mastery

novel acorn
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You're also linking warcraft logs comparing yourself to thane warriors when the upload date was 10+ days ago before the thane buffs lol

compact knot
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10.4k*

remote bobcat
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oh thats okay then

novel acorn
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like idk what you're even on about

winter shoal
remote bobcat
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loboz plays thanos stats

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all of them

undone flower
south kayak
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you basically spammed WW and BT and rampage on cd in legion aoe lmao

compact knot
south kayak
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Fury's damage was trash in m+ though

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in legion

compact knot
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this is raw damage with no bugs

south kayak
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don't tell me otherwise

undone flower
south kayak
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it was awful

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you just did damage during your burst and then you fell off the face of the earth

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classic

undone flower
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current loboz gear

south kayak
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good tbh

remote bobcat
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u weirdo

undone flower
south kayak
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how do people know about loboz

remote bobcat
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then translate to english

undone flower
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how

remote bobcat
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he was rank 1 everything

undone flower
remote bobcat
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like in SL

high echo
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should I recraft my weapon with the ilvl increase?

south kayak
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Oh he was?

high echo
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how does that work

junior gale
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Loboz doesn't know about you

clever path
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has anyone tried 8 mask on war

south kayak
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why did he go full meme lol

high echo
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okay cheers

clever path
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i cant get past rexxar area cause those fucking bugs stunlock me and one shotme

dense elbow
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The "meme" build is fun to play

undone flower
south kayak
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True

remote bobcat
# high echo how does that work

there is an item you buy from the enchanted crest vendor, its called smth smth matrix which gives ur crafted item +6 ilvls

south kayak
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We need another 120% WW buff

clever path
remote bobcat
clever path
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the issue is the little bugs in rexxar area

remote bobcat
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sometimes he finds the same builds as apl

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sometimes he doesnt

clever path
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they stun you and do a shitload of damage

dense elbow
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Another WW buff like that, and we will only be spamming WW

south kayak
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Legion time

undone flower
clever path
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its the last pack before rexxar

remote bobcat
clever path
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im not having sanity issues

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the fuckers actually kill me in a stun

remote bobcat
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im extremely careful in rexxar area, kiting them a bit

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and seperating them via stormbolt

clever path
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but you have the big add free casting

remote bobcat
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no

clever path
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and that applies poison on you

remote bobcat
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i outrange that shit

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and then LoS

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back at the gate

south kayak
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You know what's my least favorite area in any visions

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mage tower

clever path
remote bobcat
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rexxar area is worse imho

undone flower
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i think rexxar area is worst

south kayak
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wasn't that bad in bfa

remote bobcat
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i pull by stormbolting some of the small guys and then i leap away asap

clever path
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im not having too much issues with pack in front of AH

remote bobcat
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oh

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fair enough

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same strat tho

clever path
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its just the final pack

remote bobcat
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i think u can skip that one btw

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i havent tried it

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but i think its possible

clever path
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i tried

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nowhere to leap

remote bobcat
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going behind AH and then leaping up

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🤔

sage ridge
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I ended up just doing it on my ret alt and it was a breeze. Basically any ranged makes that part very easy

clever path
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id imagine

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just pop bubble and nuke them down

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bad time to not have a dk

quiet breach
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I accidently went into visions in single target build cuz I was progging sprocket just beforehand. would've been cancer if I couldn't switch lol

hearty star
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lol

quiet breach
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I think the content is casual enough that blizzard doesn't care about locking spec

inland flame
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you can also do as many as you want its not a big deal to leave and come back

south kayak
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yep

quiet breach
narrow epoch
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i think its capped to 4 or 5 a week

analog saddle
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It's a bitch, but it worked

narrow epoch
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what do u get for 8 masking

frank dawn
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Nerd points

analog saddle
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^

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Also a copy+paste mount if you do org and stormwind 8s

inland spruce
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Anyone messed around / have an Odyn's Fury build yet since the updates?
Good / bad / still ugly?

sinful spoke
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of is meta rn

inland spruce
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What did you sacrifice to pick up those talents?

gloomy minnow
remote bobcat
hollow elk
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pretty sure archie said something along the lines of 1.5% more aoe and lose 1.5% st

remote bobcat
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that is indeed what archie said

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does depend on stats tho

hollow elk
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kinda pointless when its not going to change anything. major

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its not like im losing first place as fury cuz of 1.5% lol

remote bobcat
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but regardless, OF is likely better in lower keys (due to higher burst) while being worse in higher keys where sustained damage is key

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people are still testing

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and it appears to be pretty close

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but saying its meta isnt true

sinful spoke
hollow elk
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all i see is of giving a bigger chance to rip agro on pull and getting murdered faster

remote bobcat
sinful spoke
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well i am

hollow elk
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yes just what we need. new people coming to ask for help and some furry comes and tells em what not xfd

sinful spoke
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whos a furry

inland spruce
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eh, I'm more of a silent observer vs. new fury warrior

junior gale
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its not a big deal play with OF if you want or dont

inland spruce
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if there's a build out there, I'll try it for lower keys, if not, then I'll default to the existing spec I'm using that is still shit compared to a faceroll huntard / voker / boomy

remote bobcat
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this this

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its loboz build

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rotationally you prio BT > Exe > RB with this build

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have fun

inland spruce
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nice - I'll have to try it out thanks, @remote bobcat

tepid cedar
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Have you Guy’s made a custom apl to suit this build?

sinful spoke
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its literally 1% difference

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just do it or dont

junior gale
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you dont understand 1% could mean the end of the world!!!!

native galleon
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do we use void ritual or some other great rune?

sinful spoke
native galleon
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okay, thanks

sinful spoke
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wait

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im lying

junior gale
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stick with the lie coward

sinful spoke
dense elbow
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I do use TD, cause beam crits are the biggest number we can get on screen and it decent dam

frank dawn
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twilight dev is the way, maximum cool points

dense elbow
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More fun than the dam loss matters

native galleon
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lol

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twilight dev is cooler so I might get it

dense elbow
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do it, 0 regrets

frank dawn
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this is the way

iron portal
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is it the way

lunar steeple
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i miss onslaught for the sole reason of the extra second on enrage

frosty aspen
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how is fury after buffs? should i try it on m+ or raid?

junior gale
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S tier spec play it now before it gets nerfed

inland spruce
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ungodly amount of trolls in here today lol

storm birch
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But in just a regular comp we get outdone by most

frosty aspen
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tysm! i will try fury in raid later 😄

storm birch
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Sure thing!

flat river
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FUCK IT WE BALL IM DOING 8 MASK RUN WISH ME LUCK

dense elbow
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Best of luck o/

deep sapphire
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So with the Odyn's Fury buff is it viable again in keys or is it still just bottom of the barrel right now?

flat river
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FUCK I DIED

dense elbow
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It still a DPS loss overall, but it got its niche usage, but feel free to avoid it and not feel bad about it. Or take it, and ya still dont feel aweful

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Gala lasted what, 30sec?

flat river
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1 min

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actually

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20 seconds

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lol

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AIGHT PRACTICE RUN THIS ONE IS FR

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i didnt have music on thats why

frank dawn
deep sapphire
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I'm so annoyed it got nerfed into the ground because of the fact we were strong early on in Palace on some fights.

eternal sundial
fading sky
deep sapphire
frank dawn
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Nerbuar Palace was so dumb on so many levels

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jfc

fading sky
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1 free boss, and 1 ovinax

deep sapphire
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We're not allowed to compete with Ret on anything it seems

cosmic sundial
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@dense elbow do you Troar before OF or other way around? I was thinking before to make use of capstone for full duration, no?

dense elbow
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I roar and then use OF

cosmic sundial
deep sapphire
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I too also like to Roar before I pull up Only Fans

coarse nest
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Two healers bickering because one is cancel aura macroing the others power word shield

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Lmfao

flat river
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gg

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reached second area

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got stun locked because the extra guy that spawns pulled more adds

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I WAS DOING SO GOOD TOO

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NO ORBS USED

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@dense elbow i fumbled

dense elbow
flat river
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oki

hardy cargo
delicate thicket
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why are the devs opposed to fury woyer doing dmg in m+

inner zinc
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A dev got molested by a fury with shadowmourne during wrath and has a personal grudge nowclueless

cosmic sundial
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Alright fellas how undercooked is OF in mountain thane

frank dawn
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the spec isn't in that bad of a spot after the buffs this week imo. I mean yeah you'll never have an absurd AoE pull like some specs, but we pump on bosses and have pretty respectable/consistent aoe

delicate thicket
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like tuning has been not awful across the board for m+ but somehow tuning for fury is very lacklustre

inner zinc
delicate thicket
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like what data are they using to do tuning

dense elbow
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If we get another round of these kind of buffs, we will be in a decent enough spot for M+

frank dawn
plush zephyr
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Hopefully I can time a 16 tonight chatting

flat river
dense elbow
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Hopefully I get to time a 17 by the end of this week critcake

plush zephyr
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My goal is to time a 18 by reset but that’s a huge goal

delicate thicket
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kinda sucks but I guess thats how it is

frank dawn
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yeah I mean dont' get me wrong, we are still one of the worst in M+

frank dawn
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but the buffs make us not be horrendous anymore

dense elbow
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Still lackluster, but sure, not horrenduous

delicate thicket
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like there is no data that would suggest a 5% overall buff for m+ would cut it. the type of buff they did would also mean its trivial to see the impact of the buffs

junior gale
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the tuning notes all patch has just been to bring the bottom up

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not make something go from bad to good

dense elbow
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5% is a lot when balance is quite close low to mid

junior gale
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just the route they are going down this patch

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if you dont like it just afk till 11.2 and see what they cook up

delicate thicket
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yeah im just saying theres no attempt at balance. they don't want to upset other people playing awful specs by making fury better than them?

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idk

frank dawn
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yeah idk, if you're really trying to push it's 100% understandable to be frustrated. But if you just trying to farm out the season - the fury buffs are ok imo

delicate thicket
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buffing something from poor to slightly less poor is ??

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I just don't get the idea behind it

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like who does this serve

plush zephyr
delicate thicket
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yeah I don't have my warrior geared at all for this patch tbh but its just insane to me

junior gale
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is what it is

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come back in 11.2

plush zephyr
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Fury is fun to play

delicate thicket
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I also know that dmg sources are diff between fury and outlaw but its funny to see outlaw cleaving 8 targets for about the amount that fury cleaves 5

plush zephyr
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Dogshit dps or goated dps

frank dawn
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yeah you do have to wonder why every other target capped spec gets to hit more targets, or cleave for a higher percent, or even both

junior gale
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just outdated design that we can only hope gets looked at next patch

plush zephyr
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My only theory is something is broken with fury and the echo. I mean obviously it is, but I feel like it’s actually super super broken the more they buff it and they can’t seem to fix it

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Just my tin foil hat

noble elm
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It’s pretty clear why

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For the same reasons they nerfed us in NP

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Fury kit has huge up front burst and they don’t want fury warriors shitting on raid encounters with adds

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Which ironically there are none of this tier

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I guess gally kinda

mental iris
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Recrafting for fury worth it now or sticking to arms? m+

junior gale
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well there was a few bosses where burst aoe was good its just WW stole furys job thanks too 11.1 changes

plush zephyr
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But Arms

noble elm
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But blizz has been pretty clear in their fury warrior approach - they obviously don’t want to add more utility and they don’t want to tune us in a way that makes us broken on burst aoe encounters

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Yes I know that logic is dumb because monks and hunters exist

plush zephyr
mental iris
plush zephyr
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Like 5% overall after the buff, bit better in AoE

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Arms still gaps fury except for like top

noble elm
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IMO current m+ design really just favors uncapped classes and blizzard has tried to close Pandora’s box and force more careful pulls by making the caster changes but all they really accomplished was forcing a meta to stops/control

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Until they shift their mindset in m+ design OR rework every dps spec to align with their m+ thought process without making classes scuffed in raid, fury is gonna be where it always is - mid

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Not good, not bad, just mid

mental iris
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yeah thats kinda ouf, fury feels so much better to play but its hard to ignore the fact about arms v fury

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missing that Odyns fury pump

delicate thicket
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every spec having the same target cap would help here imo. in balancing between raid/m+ at the same time. you lose some of the niche things they say they want. but fury warrior gets gapped on 5t by something like unholy. so what niche is there really, if they don't pay close attention to protect those

plush zephyr
whole yacht
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3k was very easy.

delicate thicket
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you might be able to 3man to 3k

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3man wouldn't be easy though

noble elm
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3k this season is basically free tho

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3k has never been a barrier though

delicate thicket
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yeah I think a lot of people can do it. its free in the sense that its probably not to hard to get carried to it if you just run your own keys.

noble elm
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Fury isn’t a bad spec, like it’s a completely serviceable dps spec for basically any key level

fast mural
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its just a matter of how long you are willing to sit in que

junior gale
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you can get to 3.5k as fury pretty easy just learn to make friends

fast mural
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especially when you havnt timed a 12 yet

junior gale
noble elm
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But just because something is viable doesn’t mean it’s ok

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I don’t think fury is the only spec suffering from that atm

fast mural
noble elm
whole yacht
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viable means competetively functional. but not optimal

fast mural
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were you talking about the aoe cap ?

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i might have misunderstood

noble elm
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Yes

mental iris
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anything this season is able to push a decent rio, its just that some people are still stuck in the mindset of meta comp from s1

fast mural
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fair enough

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thought you meant dmg in general

mental iris
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it just got better after turbo was activated

delicate thicket
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how

noble elm
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The aoe cap doesn’t break your ability to time keys but it does break your ability to effectively pug because other classes are just better

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Due to aoe caps

plush zephyr
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15s are fucking hard critcake

delicate thicket
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r.io number is completely arbitrary

fast mural
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everything is tho
you can brute force Rio and CE

quaint forge
fast mural
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so what do they mean

plush zephyr
junior gale
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pugging is a waste of human life

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find people to play with or dont play at all tbh

quaint forge
wild mural
fast mural
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finding people to play with is harder than pugging tho

mental iris
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KSH is very inflated this season tbh

delicate thicket
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yeah it would just be nice if specs that are obviously lagging behind get made to be a decent choice.

mental iris
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but the baseline of the players seem to be improving so

fast mural
plush zephyr
# quaint forge weird take

Not really. I like forceful friendship and forcing people to be extroverts. Too many solo players in a game that’s supposed to be player together with communications

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Shocks me people have no issue throwing on a headset for something like counterstrike or to raid but act like it’s getting the plague to talk in m+

mental iris
delicate thicket
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some peoples situation just isn't going to be great for playing with a set group consistently. playing with a group of friends is definitely a lot more fun though

plush zephyr
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I remember when I started m+, my first key, my ass wore a headset

quaint forge
frank dawn
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in a raid you are rarely expected to talk yourself also, you just need to listen

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a little different from M+

quaint forge
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It's not how I prefer to play, but it happens. Same with M+.

delicate thicket
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I think NA CS might have more reasonable voice comms. EU CS isn't that interesting on voice

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random russians yapping because they dont use discord that kinda stuff

plush zephyr
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EU cs voice is the best. They don’t talk when they’re dead unless they’re telling you exactly what to do for an ace clutch lol

quaint forge
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If you're expecting to push for title w/o comms I think that's silly. But someone just trying to do their 12s and get KSM doesn't need comms.

undone flower
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*omg ts3 i don't want to be on comms bc russians *

delicate thicket
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?

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they queue as 3 russians into mm

undone flower
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if you play EU after 1am you need to accept russians in your life

delicate thicket
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and use it as their yapping server

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I don't care about them being russian

quaint forge
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What elo? Same concept applies.

plush zephyr
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Russians in Warcraft 3 chatting : taught me everything I knew about that game

quaint forge
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If you're high elo in CS you're going to get people using comms effectively more often.

delicate thicket
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they will still call out thingsi n english sometimes but just keep yapping

undone flower
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they were my first zergs groups in hc raid

delicate thicket
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I mean I don't play that much cs2 but was top1% in premier last ssn

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21k or something

delicate thicket
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no

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everyone else that queues with friends is on discord with them for their yapping session

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and doesn't use the games voice chat for that purpose

plush zephyr
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I was FaceIt lvl 9 in NA when I last played CSGO so that means I was Silver in EU okayge

undone flower
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yeah, playing games with friends is yapping and calls

delicate thicket
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probably lvl 9 in EU then as well. don't think it differs that much in normal ratings

plush zephyr
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I wish wow had 2010 call of duty voice chat

undone flower
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i wish wow forced voice chat connection when you start a key

timber hare
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Yeah accidentally pull a mob and get called every slur known to man

plush zephyr
delicate thicket
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think a lot of people would mute it but yeah maybe wouldn't hurt

plush zephyr
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I’m just saying the culture of voice chatting would be nice

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There is none. It’s anti voice lol

delicate thicket
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yeah blizzard is just scared of people being mean/toxic

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like in hearthstone you can't even type unless someone is on your friendslist

quaint forge
undone flower
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with the same pug, i think you can do 2 key lvl above what you do just by being in comms

plush zephyr
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“How do we get players to interact”

“Uhhhh make a bis ring that everyone has to get so all player levels have to be at the same spot”

genius

whole yacht
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perfect

delicate thicket
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ping system definitely owns a lot. just rough that theres no setting ingame to make the directional sound work when you have sounds disabled

undone flower
plush zephyr
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The thing I love most is when people have an add on to say they interrupt things then they don’t interrupt shit all dungeon

delicate thicket
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imo they should buff tank dmg a lot so that they can compete with dps

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would solve tank shortage real fast

quaint forge
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We had that in DF

plush zephyr
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What

delicate thicket
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idk what you do with heals though

quaint forge
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Still had a tank shortage

plush zephyr
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I think what would solve the shortage is wow not being such a hard fucking game

undone flower
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i think the most sane thing to do to attract new tanks is to remove back shots

plush zephyr
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We can all say it’s easy, but everyone, we play a hard ass game lol

junior gale
quaint forge
#

lmao

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these are some hot takes

delicate thicket
#

yeah removing defensives would help in feeling them have more agency I guess. less fun as dps though I guess

junior gale
#

its a trade that needs to happen

whole yacht
#

wow? hard? i disagree. is it easy? no. ill never say mythic raiding and +20's are easy. but HARD? i dont think i agree

junior gale
#

healers are a dying breed

delicate thicket
junior gale
#

and is overly stressful compared to any other role

#

who the hell wants to heal these days

quaint forge
#

Tanks were pretty strong all expac.

undone flower
#

but it's not hard to play after learning phase

whole yacht
#

wow. thats an insane take. no it is not. my brother picked it up in a few days./

#

one of the hardest games to learn? of all games?

#

thats a hot take

undone flower
#

to learn, yes

quaint forge
#

fury chat is full of hot takes rn

sage ridge
#

Movement and all that is really easy in wow

delicate thicket
#

@quaint forge yeah I just don't remember tanks competing with dps

sage ridge
#

learning how to play well is not really that easy

fast mural
#

picked up the game a few days ago and alrady 99 parsing

#

sick

whole yacht
#

movement is fluid and easy. guides make learning a class a joke unless you have -10 iq and no reading comprehension

fast mural
#

guides ?

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just use hekili

quaint forge
whole yacht
#

and again, guides make learning bosses easy too

undone flower
#

if you tried to attract friends to wow, you know it is hard

quaint forge
#

but having them compete with dps in dam seems silly.

frank dawn
#

most of the playerbase must have -10 IQ then keks

sage ridge
#

this is rage bait

whole yacht
#

i have. family too. they play at same level or higher than me now.

sage ridge
#

no point in talking to him

fast mural
#

it depends on if someone played MMOs before

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like people get overwhelmed by the amount of button

delicate thicket
whole yacht
#

if someone has never played a pc game in their life, then picks up wow as their first. sure. modern wow would be difficult at first.

#

but one of the hardest games of all time to learn? that cant be real

undone flower
fast mural
#

what even would be the hardest

#

starcraft?

#

fortnite?

quaint forge
#

knowing the route, bosses, etc.

undone flower
quaint forge
fast mural
#

have you seen people build

delicate thicket
#

@fast mural I think super competitive pvp games with a lot of mechanics might be hard to get into. especially if theres not a lot of new players.

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like imagine you start playing quake right now

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you just get stomped

scarlet sparrow
sage ridge
#

Most fps games aren't hard

undone flower
#

i didn't say hard

sage ridge
#

you pretty much just need to have good aim and you are about 80% of the way there

undone flower
#

i said hard to learn / get started

delicate thicket
undone flower
#

for example LoL is hard to learn

sage ridge
#

LoL is hard for the same reason WoW is

undone flower
#

exactly

sage ridge
#

The hard games are the ones where you need to learn a lot and have a lot of knowledge to play

fast mural
#

too much shit in the game

sage ridge
#

Not the ones where it is all mechanical skill

whole yacht
#

lol isnt hard either. its just "am i better than my laner, and does my team have a brain" even at challenger.

#

the game itself isnt hard

fast mural
#

no game is hard

#

basically

quaint forge
#

EVE?

whole yacht
#

eve is about money

delicate thicket
#

yeah but its just some semantics discussion of when you've learned the game

fast mural
#

only become hard once you want to get good

delicate thicket
#

did you learn the game when you hit the 50th percentile

undone flower
delicate thicket
#

or the 99th or the 99.99th?

quaint forge
#

im just gonna say everyone's opinion is valid and continue complaining about these shit buffs we got 🙂

fast mural
#

50th percentile is on top of the bell curve

quaint forge
#

who's with me?

whole yacht
fast mural
#

so i would say yes

delicate thicket
#

yeah im not even playing warrior this season but was still tilted by these buffs

fast mural
#

its easy to assume its common knowledge if you´ve played it before

whole yacht
#

early game is not exclusive to mobas.

undone flower
#
  • champions
fast mural
#

its a completly different concept between games

whole yacht
#

its really not

fast mural
#

is early game in LoL the same as early game in wow

undone flower
#

and it is a sweaty player concept

whole yacht
#

the length of early game changes, but the concept of early game is a constant. it is the early stage of the game

sage ridge
#

by your logic leveling in wow is the same as the start of a lol game

undone flower
#

don't compare that much yung

#

wrong analogy

delicate thicket
#

somethign to consider for learning as well

#

how much good material is available for you to learn from

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or are you just going entirely of your own vibes and analysis

fast mural
#

have you learned wow if you cant code private aura WAs

whole yacht
#

you can have learned wow wiithout knowing how to make custom wa

fast mural
#

true WAs arent neccecary for any raid

undone flower
fast mural
#

you can go full natty

whole yacht
#

you 100% can

fast mural
#

just gonna hold back your team who uses them

#

perma benched on mugzee

whole yacht
fast mural
#

or sprocket

sage ridge
whole yacht
#

personally. i dont. ive never played a game and gone "holy shit this is hard"

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well, at least not since i was like 6

fast mural
#

so "learning the game " means something different to you then

delicate thicket
#

Something that makes wow a bit hard to learn is that leveling dungeons are awfully tuned

sage ridge
#

The reason I consider WoW to be hard is not really because it is hard to me, but that it is a lot to pick up compared to a lot of games.

fast mural
#

like i would say the same thing

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picking up any game isnt hard

undone flower
fast mural
#

its once you want to get good you see the depht

fast mural
#

like being bronze vs challenger in LoL

quaint forge
fast mural
#

bad example

#

and a majority never got off of that playstyle

undone flower
fast mural
#

the majority of poe players

sage ridge
#

I can't tell if he means no game is hard to just turn on and play or if they are easy to play well

cosmic sundial
#

@inner zinc did you ever get the priory jump?

fast mural
#

thats exactly the misunderstanding we are having

#

i think he measn to just pick up and play

sage ridge
#

Obviously you can turn on any game and play it

undone flower
# fast mural the majority of poe players

i think you struggle to separate your biais to take a new player perspective, ofc majority of poe players use guides, bc it is hard to learn game, ppl leave before becoming "a player" for your perspective

sage ridge
#

But to say playing a game like WoW, LoL, or even CSGO well is easy is dumb

fast mural
#

cause thats not what he said tbf

sage ridge
#

If the point is that you can turn on any game and just play it what is this even about then

fast mural
#

he said learning to play which has an open interpretation on what the benchmark is

sage ridge
#

That is just stating the obvious

inner zinc
fast mural
#

is it mythic raiding or is it lfr

#

huge difference

sage ridge
#

This is a pointless conversation if the point is that anyone can turn on wow and play the game

#

Everyone knows that

whole yacht
#

no one said anything about being good at the game. learning the game, for any game, is very easy if you just pay attention and actually absorb the information being given to you.

quaint forge
#

It's a pretty pointless conversation period.

fast mural
#

exactly and people have different opinions as to what "learning the game " means

whole yacht
#

playing a game at the very top level isnt easy. and i stated wow isnt necessarily easy. just that it isnt ard

#

hard*

fast mural
#

so its realy hard to argue

quaint forge
#

So how about those fury buffs eh guys?

whole yacht
#

they are decent. but irrelevant. we still wont be invited to keys

#

🙂

fast mural
#

5% more likely to be invited tho

sly crane
#

5 times 0 is 0

quaint forge
#

I've just resorted to doing 12s unless the boys are on.

fast mural
#

there are no absolutes

whole yacht
#

i think you meant 5% of 0 is still 0

quaint forge
#

Which is usually pretty quick

sly crane
#

im not pushing past 3k, getting invited to keys to get that took weeks

#

and the keys themselves arent even hard

fast mural
#

its only the first key of a new level you push

#

once you time a 13 you get invited to 13s

whole yacht
#

thats false

quaint forge
#

yeah was gonna say

fast mural
#

thats my experience

undone flower
#

when you have almost all 13s*

fast mural
#

once i got to a new level invites were quick

whole yacht
#

brother i still get declined to 10's

quaint forge
#

lmao

fast mural
#

ok maybe before the turbo boost

#

it was the case

whole yacht
#

no

#

last night

#

spent an hour being declined to 10's and 11's

#

then logged onto my hunter

fast mural
#

maybe cause my ilvl was inflated from myth raid

#

that must be it

whole yacht
#

i can legit be 700 ilvl hihgher than the person forming the group

#

and they will be like "nah"

#

700 io*

#

not ilvl

fast mural
#

i dont believe that

undone flower
#

i can't really say much about invites, i think i'm invited bc main raid prog not bc rio

sly crane
#

its true

whole yacht
#

a 2200 player declined me to his 10 last night

smoky vale
fast mural
smoky vale
quaint forge
#

he was waiting for that UDK

whole yacht
undone flower
smoky vale
#

especially

#

@dense elbow

whole yacht
#

yeah especially if they play that shite

fast mural
#

when you sign up to a key put "i have OF" in the note

#

they will invite you

#

but then probably ask for a link

undone flower
#

i took so many ppl bc of funny notes

whole yacht
#

i put in my note for my alt druid "ill log to my main and sabotage your key if you dont invite me"

#

got invited

#

key started

#

got kicked

#

lmao

quaint forge
#

lmao

sly crane
#

I think this is the only class discord with no external emotes

quaint forge
#

speaking of bladestorm. is it advisable to just spam raging blow until you can't anymore even if you lose enrage uptime?

#

I've been spamming until I need to enrage, but was curious about that.

#

spam raging blow before rampage*

sly crane
#

compare the damage between the 2

warm crag
#

dont drop enrage

#

assuming you're talking about the brutal finish condition

quaint forge
#

yes

#

so 3 max, maybe 4 if you're in lust

sly crane
#

yay 2s

warm crag
#

can get to 5 if you giga roll it but i dont think apl does that

flat river
quaint forge
#

apl does 3 max

warm crag
#

you sure its not 4?

quaint forge
#

hmm, i'll double check

sly crane
quaint forge
#

apl = my quick sim

junior gale
#

Need a Cyan Spongie confirmation

quaint forge
#

can you view the actual APL somewhere besides the sample ability log?

warm crag
#

actions.slayer+=/raging_blow,if=buff.brutal_finish.up&buff.slaughtering_strikes.stack<5&(!debuff.champions_might.up|debuff.champions_might.up&debuff.champions_might.remains>gcd)

#

click full html report on the right then go to profile

quaint forge
#

so <5, got it.

#

Thanks for the little tutorial @warm crag

warm crag
#

you should probably not play exactly like the apl

quaint forge
#

I mean playing like that would drop enrage in almost all scenarios

warm crag
#

it had some insane lines in it at the start of the season

quaint forge
#

but it's nice to know

warm crag
#

you'd not drop enrage as in you'd never press an unenraged gcd

dense elbow
dense elbow
#

Gala57

chilly fractal
#

ight got the 8 mask done... had to take the cowards way by leaping around Rexxar area

fast mural
#

those stunning bugs are a nightmare

winter shoal
#

(I missed the first part of the conversation so that might've already been said)

chilly fractal
fast mural
#

do you know how to avoid the sanity dmg on the corrupted orc guy who pulls you into the spot he jumps to

#

never figured it out but glady it didnt matter

slim pollen
regal mountain
#

Question about Enrage.

If we are not enraged and we cast Rampage, does Enrage buff apply before damage is rolled for Rampage? Or is first hit of Enraged rolled with no Enrage or is the entire sequence counted as unenraged?

knotty merlin
oblique trail
#

Bloodthirst however does damage first and enrages after

regal mountain
#

Interesting. I’m assuming this case would also apply for Onslaught/Tenderize, too?

oblique trail
#

It's been a long while we played it, so I'd have to check

regal mountain
#

Regardless, thank you very much for the info. I’ll verify with combat log too going forward.

oblique trail
#

It seemingly does also apply enrage before the damage

regal mountain
#

helllll ya that’s what i’m talkin about

#

thank you for testing banezi!!

silk wharf
#

Poor onslaught.

#

next tier set will make it do 6 more things so we are forced to use it.

sly crane
#

please no

#

not unless they nerf fury first

regal mountain
#

Honestly, Onslaught is pretty interesting imo. Tier bonus, Brutal Finish, and Slaughtering Strikes makes for potentially massive Rampage’s.

It’s not a meta spec, but if you’re into tracking. I think it fits kinda nicely as an alternative slayer build.

Still, it requires a lot of decisions for less dmg than meta spec, but really fun to play

#

Bonus: the opener with Onslaught is fun too, since we gain Enrage + Slaughtering strikes off the rip which leads to a unique sequence

restive walrus
#

Has single minded ever been viable?

wheat lantern
#

nope

restive walrus
#

Why is it still on the tree

wheat lantern
#

that would require asking blizz , no idea lol

#

Blizz forever holding onto classic fury DW 1H warriors

restive walrus
#

The first love

junior gale
chilly fractal
slim pollen
#

Yeh, i just got turned around and hit by frontal before I could do anything at all really 😛
But made up for it!

chilly fractal
#

nice

restive walrus
#

Yall use any of the warrior glyphs?

slim pollen
restive walrus
#

Nice I’ll have to check these out

compact knot
#

loboz build one of the strongest fury builds ever

#

a genius of our time

frank dawn
#

Do you really feel like OF is worth it lol

restive walrus
stoic loom
#

how does thunder blast fit into the ST rotation rn?

modest condor
#

top prio if you're enraged

sinful spoke
#

HE DIES TODAY CHATY

dusty ginkgo
#

is it a common strat on mugzee to just hold dps on gaols? + in general

heavy ether
#

Has anyone tried odyn's fury in M+ this week? Is it worth it now?

winter shoal
#

It's fine

#

Play it if you want

#

You lose some ST, gain some aoe

#

"some" meaning like 1.5%

undone flower
#

for the last gaols idk, i cd on it to insta delete it, the boss died just after

latent stone
#

huh, thane's the spec for mythic bandit?

mossy pelican
winter shoal
#

Realistically warrior is kinda cheeks on that fight no matter what so /shrug

old harbor
#

In 15+ keys are fury better then arms now?

winter shoal
#

Probably not outside of TOP but fury is perfectly fine

old harbor
#

I know fury with physical comp is big. Since they have better ST than arms and just buff the other 2 to do all the AOE dmg

winter shoal
#

Pretty much

#

Fury and arms have different strengths in keys

#

Arms is probably better in most cases still though

old harbor
#

That makes me sad lol

winter shoal
#

I mean at the 15ish level it doesn't really matter

#

Play what you want and are good at

old harbor
#

True

quiet geyser
#

oh lame

#

just noticed on M gally, on the opener, if u bladestorm while hes like hovering over

#

your bladestorm doesnt proc the BTs

final eagle
#

Finally tier its over

quiet breach
#

craffted ring 681 is still below circes circlet for me

#

am i fucking something up?

#

or does that seem right

modest condor
#

try different stats

#

i had haste/mast sim lower but vers/mast sim higher

quiet breach
modest condor
#

rip

quiet breach
#

looks like at best its sidegrade anyway

#

would rather cfraft shield for offspec

#

tbh

quiet geyser
#

is your mastery low?

#

it gives like 6k+ mastery lol

quiet breach
#

maybe if I tweaked the gems and enchant I could get it to be side grade or like 1k upgrade lol but cba, would rather craft a fat ass shield for offspec

quiet breach
modest condor
#

0.4% or something

quiet breach
modest condor
#

i dont know i just go off of percentages

eager thorn
quiet geyser
#

weird

silk wharf
#

The only ring, in the game, that even sims better than Cyrces for me is for some reason the footbomb ring from motherlode.

#

including every variation of the bandit ring.

#

omg it has one more secondary stat than jastor's. Mystery solved!

modest condor
#

wow blizzard nerf pls

silk wharf
#

true

noble frost
#

you know that feeling where u have to have an item set to bait people with your fat 682 ilvl, but the moment you join, you put on the circlet and it drops to 678 KEK\

modest condor
#

lfg takes bag ilvl

noble frost
#

wtf rly

#

am i just waiting my time then

#

LOL

modest condor
#

yarp

smoky vale
#

silm if im getting only a 4/8 this week surely i hold out on dinars again

#

then double send next week hoc bis

#

if not in vault

modest condor
#

huh

mild ravine
sinful spoke
#

HE HAS DIED

sudden tusk
#

woo

junior gale
sinful spoke
#

gladge

#

93 on first kill

whole yacht
#

That says 91 🤔

#

Big grats tho

sinful spoke
feral ivy
ashen jungle
#

According to all the guides and so on void ritual is the enchant we want but how come rly? Twilight dev seems to do insane damage like 18-20% of damage done in an m+ thats quite alot right? 😀

winter shoal
#

TD should be hitting for like a couple million damage, which is roughly 1-2 ability casts

#

If you're really low ilvl, that couple million damage might be proportionally higher for you

#

You can sim the different helm enchants in raidbots

dense fulcrum
#

tomorrow i'll start OAB prog in mythic, any tips ? prob gonna play thane...

sinful spoke
dense fulcrum
#

ah he has one? didn't catch it 🙂 amazing thank u

feral ivy
#

anyone do mythic mug'z this week ?

compact knot
#

but as arms

feral ivy
#

oh no i was wondering if yall are lusting at start or 2nd phase and if yall pushing phase before 2nd cages

compact knot
#

lusting 2nd phase, not pushing before 2nd cages

#

though we should drop a healer imo

#

but

#

so we can push before 2nd cages

fiery edge
#

am i trippin or reap does proc more in RA?

whole yacht
sinful spoke
#

ra like reckless abandon ?

fiery edge
#

ye

#

loboz tech

sinful spoke
#

ur tripping

fiery edge
#

seems about right

thick fossil
#

Welcome to the club! We got ours last night.

balmy shore
#

gz boyz

sinful spoke
sinful spoke
dapper goblet
marble pilot
#

Thane still pretty far behind slayer for ST right? Buffs were not enough to close the gap

sinful spoke
dapper goblet
#

i will crush his skull

sinful spoke
dapper goblet
#

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best part of that movie

sinful spoke
#

2009!?!?!?

#

aint no wAY

#

im going to bed ts just pmo

sharp wadi
#

ts = this

sinful spoke
#

Im not that old

sinful spoke
sharp wadi
#

nuh uh

sinful spoke
#

Yuh uh

sullen dove
#

curse of mines mugzee

#

22% but that last set of mines gonna be kekw to get though

sharp wadi
#

ts pmo icl ong u pmo gng js gv it up

dapper goblet
#

curse of mines and plague of gooner walls

sullen dove
#

idk if curse of jails is gonna be as bad

chilly fractal
sullen dove
#

like you just do the 4 cages and boss just dies methinks

#

must hope all immuners are alive though

dapper goblet
#

just do 4 cages :clugi:

sullen dove
#

cluegi

sinful spoke
sinful spoke
fiery edge
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frozen berry
#

brainfart, what's the line I use to add Best in Slot to my Slayer dps macro?

#

/use Best-in-slot ?

junior gale
#

you can shift left click the item and it will put it in the macro

frozen berry
autumn laurel
#

witch are the ideal stats for fury warr? got 10%crit 28 haste 69% mastery 2% versa , should i go for more versa and less mastery?

tepid cedar
#

lol, if we only had utility

compact knot
broken kite
jolly parrot
#

Link loboz build

#

Zzzzz

remote bobcat
#

loboz is the way

remote bobcat
compact knot
#

i havent had a clean key yet though

#

always some bullshit that happens

#

i had 5 mil in a priory and we wiped like the exact same time we used lust on a massive ass pull

#

lowkey could have been like 5.6m

celest sierra
#

is odyns fury back

#

?

remote bobcat
celest sierra
#

what would we give up to get it with its capstone?

#

vicious contempt and deft?

cold bluff
remote bobcat
maiden valley
#

for slayer in multitarget scenario, is raging blow really higher prio than low crit chance bloodthirst? I would've thought bloodthirst would be higher prio because of reap the storm.

remote bobcat
#

5 or less is RB prio

#

with usual builds

celest sierra
#

wait why

#

we capped at 5

#

so past 5 it dont mean nothing

remote bobcat
#

reap of the storm

#

or thunderblast

#

you farm procs with BT

#

at higher counts

#

we arent hardcapped 5 with every damage instance we have mate

red berry
#

my TB procs have been so ass lately

maiden valley
#

thanks

jolly parrot
#

What makes loboz build good? What’s prio like?

remote bobcat
#

its focused on as much aoe as possible

#

but it loses a shitton of single target

#

the general prio with loboz build is bt > exe > rb

#

CgEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA0YYGbmZYmlxMjFmZmxMMDjttZGzMzGzMjxMMjFbzwMmBAAAix2yALgBMDTgBbA

#

^loboz build

jolly parrot
#

I see

#

I used to raid with lobo

#

He was crazy island farmer

remote bobcat
#

islands broke him

#

hes been a psycho since

jolly parrot
#

I mean he barely spoke in

#

Teamspeak

#

When he did u would hear some robotic mic voice haha

cold bluff
#

You can pretty much replace ww > rb

remote bobcat
#

please do not do that

#

unless ur fighting 20+ mobs

cold bluff
#

that's what im saying

#

on aoe situation ww > rb for sure

remote bobcat
#

making a cursed build even more cursed

cold bluff
#

xD

remote bobcat
#

ok but why is this sudden death animation still really fuckin sick

south kayak
#

what's going on with visions??

#

I got into one and my sanity is draining like crazy

#

didn't even finish 2nd zone lol

#

what the fuck

cold bluff
#

did you added talent points ?

eternal compass
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Mby some mask up?

south kayak
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One mask is up

earnest canyon
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did you check the first liquid?

eternal compass
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I had the one with reduced max sanity on and was wondering the same thing

remote bobcat
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there are some mobs that drain ur stuff

south kayak
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it's long night mask so that makes sense

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fuck this mask

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gonna go in maskless

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How do you get the other masks? I only have one

earnest canyon
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dont know, was just trying to get basic head enchant for raid

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ill look at masks next reset

fiery edge
south kayak
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nah bro sanity can't be going down this fast

fiery edge
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blademaster hero talent season 3

south kayak
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can't even do orgrimmar without this mask that reduces sanity by 50% lol

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gg

slim coral
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should of gotten more mask

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dummy

south kayak
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Where do I get more masks?

remote bobcat
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too many details for someone to tell you out the blue