#fury
thick fossil
winter shoal
iconic
fiery edge
yo, i see you sometimes filler with ww 
storm birch
yo, i see you sometimes filler with ww <:peepostudy:617259554530656262>
Lmao sometimes my brain does default to WW from years of using it since I'm newer to TC being a thing. But I really only use WW on my charge into an opener
but yea I spam buttons like crazy so I do have many brainlet moments and pop a WW with like 4 different abilities I coulda used xD
fiery edge
i was like "damn, i maybe missing sth"
storm birch
Lmao. Yea nah in M+ I only like WW during a charge to get my cleave stacks and barely lose a global
anything outside of that is just brain diff sorry 😦
feral ivy
https://tenor.com/view/rlp-wow-first-time-ruby-life-pools-gif-124213360838631041...
never gets old
LOL I JUST KILLED OAB LAST WEEK AND INSTALY BOUGHT BIS
WHAT FUCKEN LUCK
flat river
gg
storm birch
me next me next !!!!
mossy fox
servers are up someone check if seismic reverb is fixed
young swan
u always wait for the next vault man..
compact knot
really good for mugzee prog ?!
compact knot
idk how long that boss even lives now with all our damage buffs now though
edgy widget
servers are up someone check if seismic reverb is fixed
jesus keep your pants on
lmao
red berry
edgy widget
that tells you absolutely nothing
feral ivy
what was wrong with seismic reverb
red berry
i know i was trying to get
edgy widget
guys I'll have it in a minute, just calm down
red berry
individiual shots
edgy widget
yall didn't even know about the bug until three days ago
red berry
😭
mossy fox
i've known for a while!
red berry
i mean i cant deny that ive only known for three days, that is accurate
remote bobcat
more importantly i have to see how good the slayer ww spam build is
2mil in 4 casts
edgy widget
i've known for a while!
you knew for four days lmao
ok I got it, watch #updates-midnight
storm birch
lmaoo
mossy fox
you knew for four days lmao
11 days!
compact knot
2mil in 4 casts
it kinda hits hard
mossy fox
thats when silm found out
remote bobcat
ok I got it, watch <#1234949058121171069>
ur a blessing
mossy fox
holy moly fury is 25% stronger now??
sour tundra
anyone know if the trait expansive mind increases your sanity still even if playing solo? from horrific visions
spiral orbit
anyone see if greater helm is available yet
sour tundra
anyone see if greater helm is available yet
it is
spiral orbit
ty
surreal token
Is there anything to gain from horrific visions this week?
fiery edge
insanity
surreal token
I'm capped unfortunately
radiant plank
holy moly fury is 25% stronger now??
125% !
soft merlin
Wait thunderclap was bugged and we still sucked lmfao
mossy fox
Wait thunderclap was bugged and we still sucked lmfao
yes
radiant kettle
💀
soft merlin
Wait so blizzard buffed fury so they could fix the bug but we still suck lol blizzard hates warriors
olive wraith
Dw we gonna be meta s3 
young swan
Wait so blizzard buffed fury so they could fix the bug but we still suck lol bli...
better than fixing the bug with no compensation
which is what probably wouldve happened in years past
red berry
i'm hoping that when they do fix it,
they buff it one more time
because while i might have not known about it i'd rather not lose more performance for keys then we already are. that does matter
olive wraith
Just fix the tooltip to match the bug easy
signal locust
We are overturned now. Going to have to limit damage beyond 3 targets to get us back in line.
ruby badge
Just be like the moonkins and make it taboo to talk about any beneficial bug while simultaneously crying about how weak your are. It's always a net positive.
quiet geyser
Sometimes bugs just make the class more fun
Onslaught doing 100% cleave dmg for example
red berry
i do kind of miss that
earnest canyon
Just be like the moonkins and make it taboo to talk about any beneficial bug whi...
quiet geyser
i do kind of miss that
Easy way to make onslaught played again 😅
waxen valley
Fury is still weaker than Boomkin / Unholy in AoE with the bug no?
quiet geyser
Massively, yes
tidal kindle
Fury is still weaker than Boomkin / Unholy in AoE with the bug no?
The 2 best uncapped vs 5T capped
Ofc
waxen valley
The 2 best uncapped vs 5T capped
I asked because it would be stupid to fix a bug that doesn't make us super overtuned 🤷♂️
undone flower
you should compare fury with similar cap specs
quiet geyser
I asked because it would be stupid to fix a bug that doesn't make us super overt...
Well, no.. bugs should always be fixed, mixed with tuning as needed hopefully
waxen valley
Well, no.. bugs should always be fixed, mixed with tuning as needed hopefully
That is the problem though they will fix the bug and nerf it the same week.
I wish the tuning team and bug fix team would communicate before things go live. It feels like they don't though. 🤷
waxen valley
A while back MM Hunter had a bug that made an ability do 50% more damage or so than it should have so they nerfed it, but fixed the bug the same week. So it went from best to worst in one week.
It needed a buff after the bug fix not a nerf lol
small hemlock
So what's the idea with the whirlwind buff? Are we spamming that or something
quiet geyser
That is the problem though they will fix the bug and nerf it the same week.
??? What nerf? 1) they haven't fixed it yet, and 2) they already buffed it in what archy said seems to be the compensation
undone flower
My personal guess for ww buff is to kill slam
(Raid tuning)
waxen valley
??? What nerf? 1) they haven't fixed it yet, and 2) they already buffed it in wh...
I was comparing it to what they NORMALLY do, had you read the post a few down from that you would see what I meant.
edgy pumice
windwalker buffs granted
wary smelt
So are we better in raid than arms now or what
olive wraith
No
waxen valley
A while back MM Hunter had a bug that made an ability do 50% more damage or so t...
@quiet geyser
quiet geyser
<@209628914081988609>
Ok so 1 instance? Saying blizzard shouldn't fix a big is still ridiculous lol
undone flower
So are we better in raid than arms now or what
Already were better on some fights, specs are boss specific
And strat specific
waxen valley
Ok so 1 instance? Saying blizzard shouldn't fix a big is still ridiculous lol
I never said they shouldn't, but they don't fix it and buff to similar amount. They fix it and nerf based on bug instead.
I said it would be stupid
Not that they shouldn't
waxen valley
Ok so 1 instance? Saying blizzard shouldn't fix a big is still ridiculous lol
It is the most recent instance from my understanding, it has occurred for hunter more than once though
quiet geyser
Thats essentially the same thing. Also, they literally did just "buff" it to the same amount
dense elbow
Just treat it like the OS bug, just a neat dam increase we need but shouldnt have when things are tuned correctly 
undone flower
ur lackluster
dense elbow
no u
coarse nest
No u
wary smelt
Already were better on some fights, specs are boss specific
Thanks
waxen valley
Thats essentially the same thing. Also, they literally did just "buff" it to the...
It isn't the same thing.
south kayak
They should fix the bug and buff it with another 25% on Tclap and Tblast
or just leave it
fury needs more help than less
quiet geyser
It isn't the same thing.
Ok delusional lil bro
waxen valley
It is the most recent instance from my understanding, it has occurred for hunter...
Also Pack Leader is bugged so it isn't giving 5% extra pet attack power like it should.
sly crane
holy moly fury is 25% stronger now??
25 times 0 = 0
olive wraith
They should make thunder blast apply cshb
iron portal
Here we go....
waxen valley
Ok delusional lil bro
Yes, you are if you think Fury doesn't need more AoE.
waxen valley
They should fix the bug and buff it with another 25% on Tclap and Tblast
This would be cool
south kayak
I'm not gonna pretend that we'd get a "compensation" for the bug considering we need even more buffs than that lol
Shit game
quiet geyser
Yes, you are if you think Fury doesn't need more AoE.
When was this said? Please enlighten me
iron portal
Yes, you are if you think Fury doesn't need more AoE.
Im pretty sure he knows we need AOE, but not through bugs...
dense elbow
This is going to be a night of ppl asking about the buff vs fix, and the "we need to be uncapped, need all utility and some extra on top" roundabout - eh? 
waxen valley
When was this said? Please enlighten me
When did I say they shouldn't fix the bug? I just did what you did.
south kayak
Im pretty sure he knows we need AOE, but not through bugs...
Either leave the bug or buff TC by another 25%
south kayak
It's a shit joke to be getting compensated instead of actually buffing the spec
waxen valley
Im pretty sure he knows we need AOE, but not through bugs...
I agree with this, however knowing blizzard they will nerf and bug fix at the same time.
wary smelt
Hmmm I’m curious if I make the swap to fury stats are almost ready so
edgy widget
It's a shit joke to be getting compensated instead of actually buffing the spec
well for one, the compensation is itself a buff
two, the bug is still live
coarse nest
Yes but we’re talking breadcrumbs
south kayak
I know it is but eventually the bug will be fixed
and it's going to be the same thing anyway
edgy widget
if the bug had been fixed today, it would have been tantamount to TC/B just being buffed by +25% in 11.1.5
which is still a net buff
south kayak
And I'm saying that's not enough
waxen valley
well for one, the compensation is itself a buff
two, the bug is still live
I hope they wait to fix the bug for when they do another tuning pass, and buff again before then.
quiet geyser
I know it is but eventually the bug will be fixed
The onslaught bug lasted like a whole tier so 😅
undone flower
The onslaught bug lasted like a whole tier so 😅
windwalkers bugs lasted 10 years
edgy widget
And I'm saying that's not enough
whether or not its "enough" is going to change for everyone you ask 😂 some people will say it's not "enough" until Fury is out performing UDK lmao
wary smelt
I mean give us bloodlust too but here we are
edgy widget
but it is still a buff
south kayak
It's enough if fury isn't bottom 3 in M+
edgy widget
ok, Fury to bottom 4, got it
dense elbow
Well, that is a question of how far bottom 3 is from midpack, no?
south kayak
ok, Fury to bottom 4, got it
It's enough if fury is in the middle of pack*
south kayak
Uncap fury call it a day, any disagree? 5T system clearly not working out well
No one here is disagreeing with that
edgy widget
It's enough if fury is in the middle of pack*
see how the goalpost changes? 
south kayak
see how the goalpost changes? <:grublaugh:727407968785793044>
lmfao
wary smelt
Remember S1 DF
quiet geyser
If they fix it, we'd need another 25% buff
Thats not gonna do a whole lot either for fury in m+. The kit is just garbage. They need to either increase furys target cap, or greatly increase cleave dmg to make fury a true 5 target king which it currently isnt
dense elbow
Uncap fury call it a day, any disagree? 5T system clearly not working out well
Counteroffer: We buff the uncapped tools Fury got
south kayak
Thats not gonna do a whole lot either for fury in m+. The kit is just garbage. T...
it is going to do osmething
tidal kindle
Counteroffer: We buff the uncapped tools Fury got
That's how you end up with nerubar style nerfbat 7x in a row
waxen valley
Uncap fury call it a day, any disagree? 5T system clearly not working out well
This would be better in long term for all specs tbh
dense elbow
That will happen either way
hollow bloom
https://tenor.com/view/hercules-hades-huh-what-looking-gif-17661802
Sign me up for that
dense elbow
If we do more than 'fine', we get nerfed
south kayak
That's how you end up with nerubar style nerfbat 7x in a row
Exactly, I'd prefer if we're like outlaw where only the rotational abilities do something and you hit 8 targets at all times
than having bursts cds and 5T
we know what happens when we have that
chilly fractal
Meatcleaver cleaves meat increasing cooking skill by 10
coarse nest
Real
tidal kindle
Meatcleaver does 100% damage to 5 targets all abilities hard capped to 5
10% more damage for each additional target up to 5 HOLY
hollow bloom
Meatcleaver cleaves meat increasing cooking skill by 10
"You can now cook the meat you cleave from your enemies"
surreal token
Are the Horrific Visions upgrades personal or available to warband?
coarse nest
<:aspoggies:585592643409674288>
Jokes on us because Blizz would actually do some shit like that
modest condor
every target you hit with meat cleaver now also hits 5 more targets around it for 55% of the damage done to that target
south kayak
10% more damage for each additional target up to 5 HOLY
Not a bad idea but I think It would suffice for Meat Cleaver to be 5 soft capped or 8 hardcapped
tidal kindle
every target you hit with meat cleaver now also hits 5 more targets around it fo...
TRUE
dense elbow
Yes. Let us get raid balanced around having X targets around us, to get the value of anyone else on ST.
Great idea
south kayak
queen panther
Aaaaah if only blizz cared about warriors now days 🥲
coarse nest
When more than one target is present while casting meatcleaver all targets suffer 4000% increased damage from your next Bladestorm
south kayak
Me when I do 85% damage to 2nd target at all times
dense elbow
Its so weird to see so many doomers, when even I aint dooming that hard. And I am a doomer
undone flower
tbf, meatcleave staying at 5T and additionals giving damage buffs is some good cook
quiet geyser
@dense elbow
south kayak
this is bladeflurry damage just because there's one other target
chilly fractal
Blade Fury
south kayak
Blade flurry does 85% damage to 2nd target
smoky vale
outlaw is better fury
south kayak
if there's only that one
south kayak
outlaw is better fury
REAL
queen panther
What if they just made meat cleaver a durational buff like blade fury
dense elbow
Question:
If you want Blade Flurry, why not play the spec that got Blade Flurry?
chilly fractal
they are
gilded pawn
What if they just made meat cleaver a durational buff like blade fury
Duration buff is not good
Then you get into some weird haste breakpoints
And the fact that it’s sort of a rhythm makes it feel less of a maintainence buff
And more like a part of your rotation
edgy widget
What if they just made meat cleaver a durational buff like blade fury
it actually was at one time
but yeah, being a set number of GCDs is smoother
south kayak
Don't get me wrong, I like the way we had it before where cds do uncapped/softcapepd damage while we're capped to 5 targets rotationally
but it causes issues like Nerubar
storm birch
greater rune secured B)
smoky vale
also how would they make meat cleaver a duration when blade flurry is based around having adrenalin rush active
fading sky
Nerubar was just a lie atm sev specs can do same?
smoky vale
would that hvae use having perma reck uptime like s2 and have our cds be worthless
fickle cedar
i like the 4 stack whirlwind
smoky vale
like what
queen panther
Hey it was just an idea Kekw
south kayak
it actually was at one time
I don't remember that
quiet geyser
but it causes issues like Nerubar
Wasnt FDK legit still better than us at that and left unchanged
tidal kindle
We don't talk about that here
edgy widget
FDK wasn't better at raid AoE than Fury
queen panther
And Ret pal, both wasn’t as instant as warrior. But they still pumped out damage.
south kayak
Wasnt FDK legit still better than us at that and left unchanged
I don't think so
tidal kindle
||FDK also did get downtuned after a while, but not to the extent of fury getting nuked||
FDK was more of a sustained aoe thing
Like brood twister
edgy widget
it was better on Broodtwister because it sustained its multitarget for 6m straight, but Fury was undisputed king of bursting adds down in a global
south kayak
FDK VS Fury was Sustained vs Burst AoE
Why haven't they buffed OF as a strong aoe button like they said they would after they removed TT
quiet geyser
Man regardless i think using the nerubar statement is a hoax. Ok so blizz makes a raid that has 3 bosses that REALLLLLLY fit fury's kit, then all of a sudden it's a problem?
I guess locks and dev should be nuked to oblivion this tier
south kayak
yeah that's true I don't remember deva evoker getting nerfed this tier like ever
and fury got nerfed 4 times
5 even idk
quiet geyser
They make a tier thats legit suited for your spec. Of course you should be a top dps spec lmao
edgy widget
good, get out!
south kayak
spin to lose
feral ivy
so i see ppl using BIS+lock-n-stalk why not BIS+ HOC? for raid
left pasture
Hello, Has the patch for War Fury been released in Europe ?
winter shoal
Is there no dinar catchup
say it aint so garms
winter shoal
Hello, Has the patch for War Fury been released in Europe ?
On reset, so tomorrow
left pasture
On reset, so tomorrow
Thx ^^
tidal kindle
Is there no dinar catchup
@edgy widget surely that's a bug
That should be fwded through the appropriate channels
edgy widget
idk, not something we could test
edgy widget
<@61282228017041408> surely that's a bug
to be clear
- you did the first week quest for 3 dinar
- but then you skipped the 1 dinar quest last week
- instead you did it this week, and you're not getting the 2nd weekly quest for 1 dinar?
tidal kindle
Yes
edgy widget
yeah I'd probably put that down as a bug but 
winter shoal
perma 1 dinar behind 
surely if blizzard fix they won't fuck it up like with sparks and let some people get an extra one right
edgy widget
That should be fwded through the appropriate channels
I had asked that exact question last week in work chat and we didn't know cause there was no way to test it, thanks for being the guinea pig 🙃
tidal kindle
hardy shuttle
Also happened to me
small hemlock
Fury seems the same to me so I'm guessing they fixed the reverb bug
hardy shuttle
Go thunderclap the 5t dummies and check details
daring laurel
If you missed a week
tepid cedar
5 min onm dummies
south kayak
show 5 min in brew
small hemlock
Tbf I don't have optimal gear, but on the dummies electric stomp still does a bit better for me.
tepid cedar
show 5 min in brew
about to run a quick 11. see the diff
plush zephyr
I haven’t done a key yet but I’m pretty excited
oak garden
How much Dinar do eu have right now?
plush zephyr
A little oomph in overalls is going to be big
oak garden
4 or 5?
lilac temple
Has anyone tried slayer in high keys totay?
sour tundra
i want to know if anyone is running Odyns fury now in keys haha
lilac temple
Me too
plush zephyr
I’ll try it out in a 14 or something later
Gotta get kids and take them out for boba 
frank dawn
whirlwind actually showing up on the meter as slayer
been a long damn time since that's happened lol
plush zephyr
Crazy how I can pull everything in a t11 delve as a fury and be completely fine but if I pull more than 3 mobs as my mage and let them touch me I die immediately
fiery edge
south kayak
whirlwind actually showing up on the meter as slayer
Needs another 120% :chatting
plush zephyr
quiet briar
Been waiting all day for chads to start posting their overalls 😁 let it rain guys get posting lol!
edgy widget
i want to know if anyone is running Odyns fury now in keys haha
well the patch has been live for about 2 hours
but yes, you can
while no, it's not redefining the meta or anything
frank dawn
xd
red berry
are we capped on how much of the treewe can unlock this week too
frank dawn
yeah, you only get a set number of the nzoth things
earnest canyon
is she just bugged or what?
vague sierra
Buff her whirlwind damage and it'll probably be fixed.
haughty wadi
hi, when does the Fury get the 25% buff on thunder clap etc ?
gilded pawn
Right now
haughty wadi
ty just started by the first step, read the update channel
whole yacht
How's the buff feeling so far bois? Im at work. Can't play
haughty wadi
humm, its on na servers only
whole yacht
Yes. Eu hasn't reset yet
haughty wadi
yup, i only get up to 6M on dummies at 664
tepid cedar
will easily break 5.5m + on cinder now
whole yacht
will easily break 5.5m + on cinder now
Nice
tepid cedar
Nice
this was a tank pulling slow as shit. small 1st pull. and i died 2x from ripping agro and a wipe on 3rd boss
pug groups are fun lololl,
whole yacht
Damn. Pretty good
tepid cedar
lets try again with a better group hopefully
inland flame
inb4 they hotfix the bug like tomorrow
whole yacht
What bug
south kayak
this was a tank pulling slow as shit. small 1st pull. and i died 2x from ripping...
where damage breakdown
inland flame
People think we got the clap buff because of a bug that makes Seismic Reverb hit for 70% dam instead of 40% dam
sullen tendon
They may have secretly patched it but I heard from someone in a pug on heroic gally that the raid lead used a strat/exploit to make mechanics not spawn. Basically he got an extra healer in the group and told him to sit in the mugzee boss room and heal himself over the entire fight. A player being in the mugzee room during the gally fight fucks up the targeting of the giant aoe bombs during first phase and causes them not to spawn and I assume they reused that ability for the tank bomb in 3rd phase so it doesn’t spawn that either so tanks can just sit on gally the entire fight without having to run out. I think it may cause other random targeting abilities to not spawn either. This was like 7-8 weeks ago so they may have patched it already.
inland flame
making it a lot more damage than its supposed to be on 3+ targets
tepid cedar
where damage breakdown
inland flame
if they fix the bug the bug today will be neutralish on 3+ with a small bonus to 1-2 targets
south kayak
nice
whole yacht
Are you even 100% sure it's bugged?
inland flame
timber hare
This be an echo chamber lad
rotund ginkgo
if i play both fury and arms, is it better to play arms with fury stats, or fury with arms stats?
inland flame
Arms with Fury stats, Arms is less picky
rotund ginkgo
ty :3
south kayak
if you find a bug that helps the class, just don't say anything lol
inland flame
its already very public information Crit made a video and its in our updates channel
tired mica
Is Raidbots sims catching the buff?
inland flame
this weeks buffs are probably precomp for the fix anyway, probably
south kayak
why are people doing this lol
i don't think so
Fury needed a buff to M+ performance regardless of the bug
so if they remove the bug, I want a compensation
outside of the actual buff from tuning
inland flame
that wont happen unless Blizz decides independently that we need to do more damage, not considering the bug
since this week's buffs would be neutral on aoe
south kayak
which makes them pointless if they fix
sudden tusk
confirmed i have no idea, but its prob compensation for it
inland flame
Blizz could always decide we're good rn with both and change Reverb to be 70% officially
south kayak
confirmed i have no idea, but its prob compensation for it
It's still not fixed
inland flame
that would be based
storm birch
confirmed i have no idea, but its prob compensation for it
Could be. I'll ride out the combo of the two while I still can 😄
south kayak
Blizz could always decide we're good rn with both and change Reverb to be 70% of...
We would be/are good enough with both, so if they just remove the bug without a compensation, it would be basically the same as last week/today for EU
= pointless buff
and we're still trash
inland flame
our M+ performance is a big issue in high keys but they prooooobably need to change their mind on Meat Cleaver 5 targets for that to change in a big way, which they seem to never be willing to do
sour tundra
are we still taking void ritual for mythic + ?
iron portal
junior gale
wym tf its the noxiv comp
inland flame
Those two MDI groups that did physical comps are getting people to experiment
feral ivy
high keys arms still in top or fury now?
plush zephyr
Probably still Arms
tepid cedar
12 priory
plush zephyr
Does the mage know they can interrupt jfc
tepid cedar
man this bug and small thane buff feels so good. can u imagine if we got uncapped
tepid cedar
Does the mage know they can interrupt jfc
pugs dont interrupt bro
plush zephyr
I do as my mage
feral ivy
man this bug and small thane buff feels so good. can u imagine if we got uncappe...
bug?
feral ivy
nooooo i dont have the trink lol
inland flame
didn't top dam, pally still better player 
tepid cedar
cleaner pulls, and more phy comp oriented. def get 5.5 mil in priory as well now
feels so much better only to get it taken away soon
plush zephyr
I just can’t see it out doing my Arms
inland flame
it depends on the dungo
there are a couple with smaller pulls that its probably pretty close
edgy oasis
Even with the double buff we are still shit in m+
tepid cedar
Even with the double buff we are still shit in m+
crazy, im basically bised out..... the pally was 671 ilvl
lolol
plush zephyr
LOL fuck
plush zephyr
Nvm I’m staying Arms
inland flame
Aoe hitting all the things is a hell of a drug
tepid cedar
yea 671 lololl
plush zephyr
vague sierra
Perfectly balanced.
plush zephyr
That hurts
inland flame
What wins? 15+ ilvls, or >5 target boi?
Actually if you're bis more like 20 ilvls. Rough.
smoky vale
i think its just being a 30s burst
inland flame
Wait I can't count. 
smoky vale
youll get more damage out
inland flame
Yeah I play with a ret a lot and we meme about CDs being ready all the time.
fluid grove
south kayak
yea 671 lololl
did u try OF
tepid cedar
did u try OF
past couple of days
and it dosnt feel good with thane at all
and its a nerf
takiung it
inland flame
You can use it to be a bit burstier in dungos but its still not really worth it is my understanding
tepid cedar
You can use it to be a bit burstier in dungos but its still not really worth it ...
u lose damage
with bigger pulls
lol
inland flame
I just miss Titan's Torment ngl
And the free WW stacks and enrage. Felt good.
Man we've gone through so much since Signet of Tormented Kings in Torghast lol
tepid cedar
of needs capstone to be included into it, and deal about 50% more damage
inland flame
Careful we're trying to keep things a secret in here.
royal copper
Still excited for tomorrow !
tepid cedar
bro all i want is toi take off this circlet ring lol
inland flame
Yeah until the fix the bug it's gonna be fun.
south kayak
too late
plush zephyr
bro all i want is toi take off this circlet ring lol
Should be an achievement to replace
Took me forever
south kayak
replaced it easilt on my evoker
dense fulcrum
the buff is mid anyway
even with the bug
so dont expect to be top overall anyway compared to most op classes
cold heart
the buff is mid anyway
south kayak
Can I see
frank dawn
OF is very powerful and signature for Fury
frank dawn
xdxdxdxdxd
south kayak
tbh you use WW every 4 buttons
but yeah OF could use to be better lol
I think OF should also be 30 seconds CD
frank dawn
that quick sim was talented into Titanic Rage and Bloodborne and OF still limp dick
very nice
south kayak
instead of 45
frank dawn
very nice
dense fulcrum
prob the ww build for raid would be slighty better, but nothing u really will notice
frank dawn
I guess Barb Training is prob better than Sidearm now for Slayer too lol, in M+ anyway
south kayak
HUH
gilded pawn
Actual prob not op they didn’t buff sidearm
cold heart
single minded fury kinda busted atm
frank dawn
Barb Training about half a percent better on AoE, Sidearm about half a percent better on pure ST
very engaging choice tbh
red berry
im pretty sure they nerfed sidearm a bit ago, didn't they
and yeah. underwhelming talent choices. fury problems.
gilded pawn
They nerfed sidearm by buffing the rest of our kit
south kayak
siderm should not be nerfed no ma tter how you spin it lol
feral ivy
was very small packs like 2 at a time even the first pull was just 2 small packs
storm birch
i'll send the logs but I could prolly pull about .3m more dps
spare flame
we fury supposed to get the void ritual enchant right
storm birch
well the charts in general should reflect the tanks pulling
so if it's bad then all the other dps in the key will prolly bea little lower
sharp forge
single minded fury kinda busted atm
Busted Good or Busted Bad?
sullen dove
bad
sharp forge
bad
Sadness Overtakes Me
I'm only an arms main because I dislike the double giant weapon esthetic
Too many nice one handed mogs
sullen dove
there prolly are a good number of tmogs that are really tiny 2handers
ik i see some of em sometimes and think "why is this thing not twice as big"
winter shoal
Heard that one before
sullen dove
real
young swan
Do fire tornadoes still 1shot?
nah, they still chunk
smoky vale
you could also get random tornados through boss that yuo cant see
sullen dove
uh hit boss many good and ya coin good
dont rly think theres any add set you like can save cds for anymore
esp not if you push before 5th adds which i think is like extremely easy to do now
sullen dove
idk sorta
sprockencock or hero funhouse or cauldron of carnage ring 53k dps arms stolen from me can get that maybe
flat river
what did u lose
smoky vale
dk cant use any of the items war didnt get bis or hoc
south kayak
F
tepid cedar
damn so close to 3.1
south kayak
What’s your ilvl
tepid cedar
What’s your ilvl
almost 682
tepid cedar
684 jastor pushes me to like 3.105
coarse nest
3m once I get greater void ritual
tepid cedar
cant wait for 684 jastorrrrr
quiet breach
cant wait for 684 jastorrrrr
why is everyone void elf
remote bobcat
why is everyone void elf
sims highest
tepid cedar
damage mugzee cages
im coming out fo mythic retirement tonight. joiing a group thats at 19% mugzee. whats the void elf trick for mugzy
smoky vale
press it
remote bobcat
im coming out fo mythic retirement tonight. joiing a group thats at 19% mugzee....
click void elf racial before prison
prison
click it again to get out of prison
dusky frost
Guys, I think I arrived late to the party... What is the main Thane build now with the Odyn's Fury buff?
chilly fractal
use your racial
smoky vale
i think you can even press it while inside
oblique trail
You can yes
chilly fractal
Guys, I think I arrived late to the party... What is the main Thane build now wi...
the one without Odyn's Fury talented
oblique trail
It goes through the gaol
tepid cedar
what does that do?
smoky vale
doesnt break the cage
mossy pelican
what does that do?
Uptime on boss
remote bobcat
what does that do?
so u dont waste time
chilly fractal
no - usually you let who is assigned kill the add you just get out of dodge
mossy pelican
Because it’s not always the case that who places the jail is who is assigned to the jail
analog kite
is fury comp to arms in M+?
drowsy heron
honestly, they should just leave the bug in and update the tooltip so it shows the new numbers. its not like Fury is OP atm anyway
arctic pivot
honestly, they should just leave the bug in and update the tooltip so it shows t...
no bro gotta keep fury at the bottom of the gutter
proper obsidian
Hey seening people rock vers mastery vest is there a number of hast that's enough then you start going awya from it ?
past pivot
When sims recommend it
storm birch
what's our typical dmg in workshop ?
can't find any of my more recent runs to compare it to
mossy pelican
calm swallow
Fury good again?
mossy pelican
finite path
Any OF builds drop yet?
rigid yacht
Whats the consensus chaps? Thane or slayer after buffs? I'm assuming Thane?
frank dawn
Any OF builds drop yet?
OF still bad
full portal
so what's the best head enchant
whole yacht
Whats the consensus chaps? Thane or slayer after buffs? I'm assuming Thane?
Thane
whole yacht
so what's the best head enchant
Void ritual
full portal
I've seen people using that but echoing void sims a little bit higher for me. Is void ritual better in dungeons?
mossy fox
xdxdxdxdxd
almost like they didnt need to nerf odyns fury in 50 different ways all at once
frank dawn
The blizzard man is never wrong
small hemlock
what trinkets can I go towards fastest? Or is everyting just bought from the raid vendor
fading quartz
Probably asked alot already, but how is Fury doing in M+ now since the recent buffs?
frank dawn
you still aren't going to win any overall competitions (unless bad players lol), but Fury should be a pretty solid pick-up imo. Great boss damage, very tanky, and it was a decent AoE boost too
OF still bad tho, pour one out for our boy
I'm assuming sims don't have the bug, but also interestingly Thane and Slayer seem to be simming extremely close for me on 5 target sims now with Slayer still having a 4-5% edge on single target
winter shoal
I'm assuming sims don't have the bug, but also interestingly Thane and Slayer se...
Archi mentioned they were planning to add the bug to simc for now, not sure if that's live and on raidbots yet
whole yacht
going throughh my vaults
my 585 feral has a +10.
everyones gonna dip the second they see my ilvl
lmao
idk how imma pug that mf
chilly fractal
the Rexxar area.... is so horrible lol
wraith wharf
the swarmlings.. hurt
chilly fractal
understatement
radiant spindle
is any good
young swan
is any good
good enough until u get hoc
flat river
is any good
why is it legendary color
chilly fractal
You can adjust that
wheat lantern
every week since season 2 , always filled the 3 options , the one time I only do 1 mythic just to finally find a damn weapon
chilly fractal
every week since season 2 , always filled the 3 options , the one time I only do...
That was me last season with a sacbrood
wheat lantern
Has Leech too
sullen tendon
plush zephyr
Looooool
chilly fractal
the swarmlings.. hurt
That’s like the only hard area I’ve come across
plush zephyr
What you get for calling warrior shit
sullen tendon
collect all the buttons
ive been doing that with floodgate loot
sullen tendon
What you get for calling warrior shit
why would i lie
wraith wharf
That’s like the only hard area I’ve come across
yeah, the near instant stun feels BS
flat river
ive been doing that with floodgate loot
BUT NO BUTTONS
sullen tendon
pacemaker is kind of like a button
plush zephyr
I’m still mad about Vexies not being good. The animation is so funny
south kayak
collect all the buttons
somber ocean
Anybody here able to answer a random question regarding a talent?
Is the movement speed from th Frenzied Enrage capped? I have 123% passive and the enrage only gets me up to 125%
torn silo
Okay am I doing something wrong with simming, or do we just not replace circlet for ring? I simmed with a 681 version of the crafted ring with 2 sockets and all possible stat combos and it's still showing cerces is better? Other ring is heroic jastor, like 680ilv
somber ocean
You might have awkward stats bro
plush ice
yeah, depending on your gear my circut stayed my bis for ages
plush zephyr
Okay am I doing something wrong with simming, or do we just not replace circlet ...
Not crazy for Fury
plush ice
even at 681 i think it was a slight slight gain but it was in the margin of error finally so i replaced it
for me at least
plush zephyr
Okay am I doing something wrong with simming, or do we just not replace circlet ...
Had the same set up you did and then I think I crafted my neck, something in my stats changed then my crafted ring simmed higher but like, barely.
somber ocean
I've simmed out Circle last week as well, howevre I have 4 piece of crafted gear to swap stats around on
wicked beacon
I'm still curious how is seismic reverberation bugged? It doesn't help with clap or?
plush zephyr
I feel like I’ve had to craft too much shit this season
plush zephyr
I'm still curious how is seismic reverberation bugged? It doesn't help with clap...
The echo does 70% instead of 30%
wicked beacon
Sooooo that's a good thing? =D
frank jolt
I missed one god damn raid on Sunday because I was abroad, and ofc that was the day my guild killed Bandit. There will be no reclears until Gally dies.. My question is if its worth it to pick up the HC version of best in slots and put it in the off hand slot for the use effect?
I'm happy for us progressing but I'm also so fucking mad ngl 😄
plush zephyr
Sooooo that's a good thing? =D
Yes
somber ocean
I missed one god damn raid on Sunday because I was abroad, and ofc that was the ...
Imo the dinnar would be better spent on a M+ trinket no?
somber ocean
even craft would beat it
plush zephyr
Most likely in any scenario no
chilly fractal
hard no
frank jolt
Imo the dinnar would be better spent on a M+ trinket no?
If not that then I'll pick up a mythic Mister Lock N Stalk probably, that looks yummi on sims and I have a pacemaker maxed out to go with it.
somber ocean
Bro lck and stalk is bis for mug zee and gally
plush zephyr
Top Gear
frank jolt
Got 684 MH and 681 OH to be crafted tomorrow
somber ocean
Is the movement speed from Frenzied Enraged capped?
winter shoal
Can we get greater helm enchant this week?
chilly fractal
yes
whole yacht
yuh
loud sinew
whenever I sim my warrior it always says my Ratfang Toxin trink is better than most trinks I sim it against,
noble elm
I think same ilvl a lock n stalk should beat ratfang
But ratfang is a solid pure st trinket, so I can see it being up there
loud sinew
I got that one already and it does, but I'm simming it against a maxed out mythic signet, maxed out heroic houise of cards, and it's saying keep the ratfang and lock nstalk
noble elm
I wouldnt expect signet to be good for fury, cds don’t align, out of curiosity if you sim a maxed heroic funhouse lens how does it fare?
loud sinew
not sure
onyx temple
Is the slayer build for m+ any good ? Or is mountain the best by a mile ?
frank dawn
My 5 target sims had them very close together. Either way the gap is much smaller than it used to be if you prefer slayer
OF still kinda doodoo for everything tho
onyx temple
OF ?
frank dawn
Odyn’s Fury
compact knot
yo im trying this but with spear instead
ngl
after i take a shower
troar + spear and bottom right node
frank dawn
OF offers nothing but disappointment
compact knot
over cook possibly but i make everything work personally so
loud sinew
I wouldnt expect signet to be good for fury, cds don’t align, out of curiosity i...
funhouse lens simmed higher than lockn stock and wanted me to pair it with ratfang.
compact knot
I wouldnt expect signet to be good for fury, cds don’t align, out of curiosity i...
funhouse lens is a good trinket
mighty wave
anyone know if any talents change for Mythic One arm after buffs?
compact knot
like really good
sick orbit
is the Viscera trinket any good?
mighty wave
only seeing 3 logs today so far so unsure
compact knot
is the Viscera trinket any good?
good on pure st bosses
but any of sort of aoe it losses a lot of value
also its not better than stuff like lock n stalk or pacemaker, id always sim though
funhouse lens/amplifier/energy drink are generally the 3 best simming hero track trinkets for both warrior specs, and only slightly below myth trinkets (stuff like HoC, Kezan and Pacemaker)
noble elm
I assumed lens would sim high
I wouldn’t pair it with ratfang tho
I guess ratfang is a send it trinket so it doesn’t really matter
storm birch
3.44m dps in rookery seems decent and it was very sloppy
I think the buffs feel really good
storm birch
Sheeesh
frank dawn
Yeah it seems mostly reasonable. Like yes several specs will still absolutely gap us on big aoe, but our boss damage is now a proper strength since our aoe isn’t complete dog shit
storm birch
Yea idk does dmg go a little lower in higher keys cause bosses live longer or no? Idk how that works
Either way I had like 4 deaths my stomach was cooking throughout the dungeon so I was playing like trash
storm birch
i did 4m in a 13
You must be chadd’ing becauee even the WC logs top rookery is like 3.6m on a 13 so props to you
willow cradle
Oh right, since WW is buffed it's now better than Slam even in pure ST
hardy shuttle
logs is gonna be lower than details
storm birch
Oh really? Why is that 😮
storm birch
Ah that’s interesting !
Still poppin off regardless ! Nice dmg
This was a 17 and I was dead perma so I think I could squeeze up to like 3.6 or so on details
I trolled so hard though 🤣🤣
hardy shuttle
i havent been back in a 17 since i took a 2 week break and now need 400 crests to get caught up in ilvl
90 more
feral ivy
Ppl who killed gally mythic how much time yall ahead by since the buffs
storm birch
What ilvl are you 😮
storm birch
Oh I see I think I’m 681 rn. I still need mythic BiS then I’m vibin
red berry
storm birch
What level?
red berry
just a 12
feral ivy
What dungeon?
red berry
cinder
feral ivy
Wait you went slayer? Lol
red berry
that's the loboz build
hardy shuttle
but who got that pi
frank dawn
Slayer is solid now after all the buffs
feral ivy
that's the loboz build
Is that the new meta vs mt?
storm birch
What is with yall and your keys with 2 huge dps and 1 person at half the amount 🤣
red berry
the monk was getting PI
mountain thane still does more AOE. the 30% to odyns was not nearly enough
hardy shuttle
in rookery it felt like every bt i pressed gave me a TB proc. in my brew i felt like i got 0
gusty cloak
Hi any talents changing after todays patch?
red berry
i do hate how RNG thunder blast feels
but yeah no the fact that odyns did less then whirlwind that run
i think if it did as much as dragon roar does, it would feel better
but we have other stronger things in our kit, so
either way thunder blast getting that 25% hefty buff is very good
woven heath
Seeing a lot of discussion of the "loboz build" there a link to it or anything? Sounds like picking up OF for a loss in ST?
nvm, think I found it
winter shoal
Seeing a lot of discussion of the "loboz build" there a link to it or anything? ...
I think it's just bad
but like 3 people find it funny
woven heath
Just ran through it. It's uhh... Yeah, dumping a ton of staples.
smoky vale
I think it's just bad
i hate visions
noble elm
I mean any build in good in the hands of the one savant who is good at it
winter shoal
i hate visions
same
noble elm
Just because Jeff Gordon can drive your Taurus and win a race doesn’t mean a Taurus is a race car
plush zephyr
Just because Jeff Gordon can drive your Taurus and win a race doesn’t mean a Tau...
Hey man the Taurus SHO goes hard
red berry
I think it's just bad
yeah its eh
woven heath
Is the general sentiment to keep rolling Thane then?
woven heath
M+ and Stix I assume
noble elm
Hey man the Taurus SHO goes hard
As someone who has run one on the track I agree lol
earnest canyon
Just because Jeff Gordon can drive your Taurus and win a race doesn’t mean a Tau...
They asked him to turn right once and he just broke down in tears
noble elm
Def a quiet riot
plush zephyr
Also Jeff Gordon was awesome
feral ivy
Anyone kill gally last week again or will today? Mythic
dense fulcrum
nvm, think I found it
can u link pls
dense fulcrum
ty
old harbor
so is fury now stronger than arms in later keys?
noble elm
almost certainly not
plush zephyr
so is fury now stronger than arms in later keys?
no
minor copper
im tired of arms demolish stacking
plush zephyr
fury is fun
winter shoal
is at least playable ?
If you're not doing title keys, there are about a thousand things that matter more than whether you play fury or arms
Play what you enjoy and are good at
plush zephyr
^
minor copper
Play what you enjoy and are good at
im not good either fury or arms but yeah i liked fury back in DF s3
plush zephyr
Not even good at, be bad who cares. Just be having fun.
solid lily
wha do we drop for odyns
dawn locust
wha do we drop for odyns
nothing odyns still sucks
solid lily
i want another button b%#%#
dawn locust
youll take your 3 buttons and like it'
minor copper
fury didnt have a talent that activates OF with avatar?
dense elbow
Titan's Torment used to be that one, and is luckilly gone.
storm birch
Mannn when are title numbers gonna stop going up 😭 every time it feels like the gap is closing that ish is another 50 points up!!!
fair swallow
void ritual is still our bis enchant right?
been hearing how the enchant procs are bugged
winter shoal
void ritual is still our bis enchant right?
Yer
merry night
im assuming we aint running OF in raid right 😦
dense elbow
who is going to stop you?
merry night
pure echo
huh, so with the changes looks like whirlwind>slam even if untalented?
wraith wharf
(dont tell blizzard)
pure echo
atleast looking at tooltips, whirlwind has bigger number
wraith wharf
yeeet the slam
pure echo
im fine with that, think slam is kinda pointless as fury anyway
unless it works how it did in DF where you get slam as filler big rage generator, forget which tier
wraith wharf
that was cause of uhh.. that one talent but yeah
opal monolith
I've been playing fury all season just doing keys and I don't think I had to press ww or slam more than 5 times
How is this a thing
royal copper
WW is fine, if you out of range (example some shit om Ground prevents to go in close) has Extreme good range
Doesn’t do much… but one or two of em’ - charge back in once the shit is gone its fine. Better then notning
compact knot
new m+ talents
modest condor
that's... a build alright
royal copper
new m+ talents
Slayer? Really?
compact knot
Slayer? Really?
adressing the molecule in the room bro
instead of the elephant in the room
gleaming siren
Posting Loboz build
sinful spoke
thick fossil
Holy fuck we're so close to killing this fucker
modest condor
idk what loboz build is but it cant be worse than this
smoky vale
loboz already the best
modest condor
im surprised you didnt also take titans torment and culling cyclone
sullen tendon
so its not worth going OF still
compact knot
there isnt anything better nvm
compact knot
Have you even tried Fury in m+? <@232249410103279616>
i only play slayer in m+ as fury
and not often
compact knot
oh im big aware
undone flower
yo ashen juggernaut cannot be good
I was surprised you talented out of many things but jug
compact knot
yeah but whats better
inner zinc
is it possible to leap up to the P2 platform of last boss of PSF? I know locks can put a gate up there
undone flower
I think jug is the first to be yoink for me in a m+ build
undone flower
And with switching all power into BT , don’t you think you need like, the 15% haste talent
compact knot
this is like giga burst build
so 15% haste is 100% not better
i think i drop troar fully
yo why am i doing 6.5m dps sustained
idek whats good for fury
on 5t
undone flower
And how much in ST?
inner zinc
id rather be a pussy than spend 6 mins on last boss of rookery
frank dawn
dancing blades says hello
compact knot
nah dancing blades was good for like a full season
the state the bloodbath dot is in you will never use it
inner zinc
OF/titans torment was nerfed so bloodbath could dribble a little blood
they should rename it to bloodpuddle, would be more fitting
sage ridge
Anyone been trying to do the vision with 8 masks?
sage ridge
The end of the right side you just get stunned and killed most of the time
sullen tendon
new m+ talents
this feels awful without haste and withotu deft experience
plush zephyr
Anyone been trying to do the vision with 8 masks?
That sounds like hell
woven valley
I’m waiting to do all masks once we fully unlock the tree lol 😂 no point in hurting myself before that
plush zephyr
Yeah that was my thought
cosmic sundial
yeah but whats better
yes I do this everytime
distant nacelle
Echoing void is our best enchant?
cosmic sundial
is it possible to leap up to the P2 platform of last boss of PSF? I know locks c...
this is what I meant to reply to, and yes I do it everytime
cosmic sundial
nah it's mb for replying to the wrong thing. I leave as evidence that I'm a dumdum
compact knot
dude
i mean this spec actually fucking owns
if i wasnt lagging i could see 5.5-6m overall
in this cinderbrew
cosmic sundial
Did you end up taking troar out? lmao
cosmic sundial
What did you take instead? Other spear capstone?
sage ridge
That sounds like hell
I can get the entire vision done without using a single orb at full sanity. I get to the end of the right side and the bugs just hit me 4 times and I get stunned and die
undone flower
THE ST ISNT BASD
Screen of feet or fake
verbal shale
Guys I need to know these hacks what is the best build for cinderbrew is slayer possibly better then mountain thane? Haha
sage ridge
Another thing where if you are ranged it is trivial but for warrior it is horrible
verbal shale
I haven't got a 5 Milly yet on my fury and I'm quite geared
undone flower
But did you loboz like vye ?
compact knot
Screen of feet or fake
2.4 on last boss of cinder
undone flower
compact knot
i lagged like a mother fucker and died because of it on like 3 pulls
but still 4m overall
i switch to hotspot rq and test again
i did 20m dps on the pull before the bee boss
lol
also missing consums
cosmic sundial
What did you take instead? Other spear capstone?
@compact knot I does has to know
compact knot
other spear capstone