play properly
#fury
upper mica
woudl u prio slam over BT as a filler if under 80?
remote bobcat
wat
no
BT crit chance doesnt get removed by clicking BT
it gets removed by critting BT
so you are free to click BT as a filler
if ur lucky u get a crit
upper mica
man i have been playing thi sseason incredibly wrong >.>
remote bobcat
the entire point of clicking bt at 85% or w/e is to essentially guarantee a crit within 2 BT presses
nezagu it's all about understanding how your talents work
I promise you, understanding the prio list is one thing, understanding the talents to explain the prio list is another
The warriorbrains put in a lot of effort
upper mica
100% i was under impression if you dont crit you lose the %
i honestly could not tell you why i had that impression >.>
upper mica
yeah i was loking at it just then... im so dumb lol
remote bobcat
our tier set gets removed by clicking BT but bloodcraze doesnt
Anyway, did you see what they did to sudden death?
look at the proc animation of sudden death brother
fading sky
what is that ?
fading sky
now it slaps !
remote bobcat
fading sky
now they only need to make SD worth using
remote bobcat
now they only need to make SD worth using
did u go to the gym yet
fading sky
Every day
radiant plank
fiery edge
Sharms
modest hollow
where can i get head enchant?
sour frigate
from a draconid near visions entrance
hardy bluff
where can i get head tho...
junior gale
look at the proc animation of sudden death brother
i remember when this came out. classic getting a SD animation meanwhile retail has nothing
slim arch
Are the upcoming changes to fury enough to make it viable in m+ or will arms still be the go to?
dense elbow
it is just as viable as before the buff
orchid dagger
Are the upcoming changes to fury enough to make it viable in m+ or will arms sti...
You are still brown class
You get to hit the pvp queue button and that's about it
Maybe if you are lucky someone will pity you and take a poor little brown class in
slim arch
Hmm sagde…
orchid dagger
It be what it do
broken kiln
i like smf. what point do yu guys like dropping for smf?
fading sky
None
warm crag
uh i think you either drop a point in vicious contempt or bloodcraze
you can just sim talent setups though
rotund ginkgo
@modest condor battle shout connoseiurs
warm crag
none of us are playing smf though so theorycrafting there will be dubious at best
sour frigate
i like smf. what point do yu guys like dropping for smf?
playing fdk/havoc
fading sky
Outlaw
modest condor
<@105847932611231744> battle shout connoseiurs
is that your post?
broken kiln
uh i think you either drop a point in vicious contempt or bloodcraze
thanks!
ive accepted the risks of lower damage in exchange for mog life
warm crag
idk i think theres some more modest 2h models in the game now no
unless theres a very specific 1h you want then more power to you
broken kiln
ive got a weird reason haha
i dont like how arms plays but i wanna be a 1 2H warr
so i make do with a big 1h and a tiny oh
warm crag
very powerful
broken kiln
yeah here's to wishing blizz updates mf or just makes it a glyph
broken kiln
but seems like a lot of work so they dont do it
amazing mindset for a paid game lmao
junior gale
dont bitch at me for Blizz being a shit company
broken kiln
dont bitch at me for Blizz being a shit company
lol not at you
modest condor
yeah it's been a pet peeve of mine as well
even in this server i've had to tell people that before
clever belfry
shout deez
rotund ginkgo
even in this server i've had to tell people that before
People trying to argue semantics or somehow derailing the threads point is so weird
modest condor
welcome to reddit
mild ravine
where link? let us join in
modest condor
one time i made a post about defensives that reduce the damage you take not working on projectiles that are already mid-air and i brought up that people noticed this on the third boss in everbloom and thought it was just a weird quirk on the boss but it's actually how almost all projectiles work
one of the comments:
"oh yeah i remember third boss in everbloom also does this"
not only did they not read the post, they also completely missed the point
onyx violet
How many % overall buff will the Fury buff be on reset? Ish
shut gust
" roughly 5%"
onyx violet
Ait thanks 😘👍🏼
fiery edge
shut gust
imho, main issue of 5 target hardcap for sustained aoe still remains, it will be only enough to close the gap to arms probably
fiery edge
foory S tier in season 3 
summer crater
foory S tier in season 3 <:gladge:963970137701109820>
fiery edge
unholy be shivering
quiet breach
what's the % chance that fury will be at least AS GOOD as arms in keys once buffs come thru?
junior gale
5% better than what it is now
fiery edge
was about to say 0
trail bane
what's the % chance that fury will be at least AS GOOD as arms in keys once buff...
Not until they decide to either cap arms at 5 targets or increase furys target cap.
iron portal
fiery edge
clever iron
what's the % chance that fury will be at least AS GOOD as arms in keys once buff...
😂 Big Zero
smoky vale
i just have to link achievement or
gleaming siren
i just have to link achievement or
Provide video proof
I will provice you video proof I've already done it first
earnest canyon
i just have to link achievement or
link me lfr gally or no invite. no space for inexperienced people
undone flower
Or you can hold for mines
Do they give dps btw ?
gleaming siren
Mugzee mines are immune
Imagine if they weren't
And you just broke their CC insta every time
violet condor
has there been a wowhead warrior recap yet?
undone flower
They are waiting Blizz to fix fury
graceful dock
I saw the odyns fury setup for m+ next reset will be ish competitive, how does that talent tree look like?
winter shoal
has there been a wowhead warrior recap yet?
Archi said probably one of the last
winter shoal
I saw the odyns fury setup for m+ next reset will be ish competitive, how does t...
Drop VC take OF 
graceful dock
Drop VC take OF <:yep:703420923625078804>
Gotchu ty
no bloodborne?
and is it dancing blades or titanic rage
whole yacht
no bloodborne?
great game
graceful dock
:(
clever belfry
Mugzee mines are immune
immune from ur shit
earnest canyon
lol
junior gale
not immune enough for me to run into!
modest torrent
Gents i'm doing the three first Mythic bosses of Undermine tonight. What would be the spec recommended in your opinion with the goal to achieve the best parses possible (we will kill first try anyway) ?
Wowhead recommend the multitarget for the 3 bosses, but I have pain to understand why? Isn't Cauldron 100% single target?
quiet breach
I prefer ST build for cauldron
clever abyss
I’m bias place to ask, but for those who have put a good amount of time on fury & ret, which has a more enjoyable playstyle rotation wise? For long term
nimble kraken
Are TC and TB 70% buffed or whatever right now? or tomorrow?
burnt oxide
Gents i'm doing the three first Mythic bosses of Undermine tonight. What would b...
Cauldron has 2 target cleave during the intermissions, thats why its recommended. You can lookup the most used talents on Warcraftlogs. The majority uses the st build
modest torrent
ty
burnt oxide
I personaly used both and the difference is not that high. But st feels a bit better
unreal onyx
absolutely botched the kill but w/e
winter shoal
Are TC and TB 70% buffed or whatever right now? or tomorrow?
Bugged rn with seismic, getting buffed on reset with the bugfix, will basically balance out
opal monolith
Bugged rn with seismic, getting buffed on reset with the bugfix, will basically ...
Source bug fix?
south kayak
Archi said probably one of the last
Just like the Fury performance in m+
orchid dagger
I’m bias place to ask, but for those who have put a good amount of time on fury...
Ret, because you can actually get groups outside of pvp
plush zephyr
I’m bias place to ask, but for those who have put a good amount of time on fury...
I can’t answer. I haven’t put time into pally cause it’s boring as fuck (to me).
undone flower
I’m bias place to ask, but for those who have put a good amount of time on fury...
The gameplay is similar, you have different animations and different cooldowns, if you played fury imagine you rampage after every spell + free rampage procs
chilly fractal
we overall took 59 pulls to kill mugzee
Exactly how many pulls it took my guild
winter shoal
Source bug fix?
Archi said probably idk
cold cape
Is Fury or Arms better for ToP since mob count is low?
grave sigil
Hi folks, PVP question -- I've been toying around with different talent builds for Solo shuffle. I feel like there are some fights when I don't really need the mobility from bladestorm. Do any of y'all ever take points out of bladestorm/unhinged and put it somewhere else for more damage?
orchid dagger
Hi folks, PVP question -- I've been toying around with different talent builds f...
Are you thane
orchid dagger
why would you ever drop the talents that just deal the most damage
Because Bladestorm does fuckall in pvp
orchid dagger
if you don't need that you drop it for Ravager, unless you are Slayer
grave sigil
Are you thane
Yeah, I'm mountain thane
orchid dagger
yeah, then you should be Ravager outside of like caster matchups
grave sigil
sounds good, rthanks!
celest anchor
insane tech @mossy fox
smoky vale
leak the tech
south kayak
didn't know walhe played fury
gleaming siren
leak the tech
Also killing boss right after second intermission
instead of right before
south kayak
what is that lol
gleaming siren
It's the AoE
Stand on edge of blue circle and you just live ig
just a clean kill tho outside of that what it looks like
modest condor
it's specifically that fury can live the aoe while staying in melee range so you dont lose uptime
gleaming siren
yea
With just SR too
which is nuts
The Evoker also didnt insta evaporate the adds
which helps
smoky vale
xd
south kayak
imagine being that evoker
gleaming siren
Imagining being Fraggo
clever belfry
finlandia 🇫🇮 🇫🇮
ornate gust
it's specifically that fury can live the aoe while staying in melee range so you...
So we spell reflect only and continue dpsing? 🧐
mossy fox
insane tech <@235809563490779136>
xd
yeah just SR and attack from max range
D stance for extra safety if you want
wintry hatch
so is fury gonna be worth running more tomorrow or no?
whole yacht
nah
sly crane
so with the new buffs is fury going to be #1 S tier dps?
devout totem
first ce 
whole yacht
grats
reef finch
gg
south kayak
gz
modest condor
grats
coarse nest
gz!
junior gale
gz
chilly fractal
Gratz!
sudden tusk
first ce <:peepo:938582175522107442>
woo
signal steeple
first ce <:peepo:938582175522107442>
Congrats big guy
vocal thorn
first ce <:peepo:938582175522107442>
beastmode
autumn halo
gz
dapper goblet
better than swordish
timber hare
Grats!
earnest canyon
is it worth soloing any mythic raids on huntard purely for gold? kinda bored
like whats the hardest raid you can walk upto and smack on mythic
earnest canyon
ah well, thanks anyway
bright loom
insane tech <@235809563490779136>
wrecking throw was a nice touch in build, havnt tought about that.
little saffron
is it really worth for me to switch my embellishment from ascendance to duskthread? if i got crafted 681 weapon and mythic dumpster diver 684
remote bobcat
is it really worth for me to switch my embellishment from ascendance to duskthre...
Sim it to find out
dense fulcrum
so tonight NA will get fury buff
remote bobcat
It was 30 dps increase for me
little saffron
Sim it to find out
sim is worse thats why im curious is it sim bait? or trust it?
remote bobcat
sim is worse thats why im curious is it sim bait? or trust it?
trust it
just make sure you have an appropriate thread uptime setting for what ur trying to do
remote bobcat
go into the logs of fights ur doing and check the uptime of other people who have weave - or check how often you dip below 90%
or no
what was the weave hp %=?
80?
silk wharf
yea, 80 now. was 90 in DF
warm zephyr
trust it
crazy how we talked about tunning last week and then they gave up AOE tunning huh? not as much as we need but
sudden tusk
im going to miss playing with smorbsmih
where smorbsmish go
sudden tusk
o
remote bobcat
where smorbsmish go
omg hii madox big fan of the supernatty
sudden tusk
its good show
sullen tendon
insane tech <@235809563490779136>
are you doing the cheese strat that doesnt let any bombs spawn on the entire boss fight. So youdont have to move at all during first phase and tank bombs dont spawn in 3rd phase
shouldnt call it a cheese srtat
more of an exploit
remote bobcat
oh yea
sudden tusk
: )
whole yacht
thats what i defaulted to as well
remote bobcat
he got inspired by that outlaw doing 6.7mil i assume
sudden tusk
lmao sure
winter shoal
but 10s are something else
Just had a mage in a 13 doing less than the tank
1.1m on boss
🙂
remote bobcat
Just had a mage in a 13 doing less than the tank
please go smadox stream there is a shadow priest who hasnt used PI and void eruption a single time
smoky vale
Just had a mage in a 13 doing less than the tank
🙂
earnest canyon
my 620 hunter was out dps'ing 650's
hunter op op
winter shoal
Do I look like I know how magus works
winter shoal
please go smadox stream there is a shadow priest who hasnt used PI and void erup...
The real crime here is madox playing outlaw instead of sin bleed build
That shit owns
remote bobcat
no
winter shoal
Feels like omega beans on single target tho
remote bobcat
sin sucks
sullen dove
better than swordish
correct
remote bobcat
swordish can you come play eu pls
remote bobcat
what
yo @celest anchor do you think there's value in making a parsing tips and tricks list for each boss where things like mugzee add dmg amp or gallywix circle max ranging is included?
spare flame
lol I just got exactly 3k, not a point to spare
remote bobcat
lol I just got exactly 3k, not a point to spare
ggs
fast mural
remote bobcat
<:peepostudy:617259554530656262>
he aint wrong tho
fast mural
yeah
main sierra
I noticed on RaiderIO profiles that some fury warriors use Radiant Power enchant on their weapons. Is this better than Depths?
sullen dove
for m+ yeah usually
that or another secondary stat proc
but unless youre doing like the highest of keys your enchant doesnt rly matter
depths is just kinda go to cuz its best for raid
main sierra
I mainly doing keys and just heroic raids. So raident may be better for me?
sullen dove
and swapping all the time is annoying
i mean its not a big deal either way
dont "need" depths in raid as much as you dont "need" power in m+ just whatever you'd like to feel slightly better in i suppose
whatever you choose as your main gamemode so to speak
main sierra
ah okay
junior gale
guarantee you wont even notice the dps difference
main sierra
yeah when I did a sim for the two different enchants there was like a 0.1% difference
dense elbow
<:peepostudy:617259554530656262>
⭐ take this, give it to that keyholder
solemn widget
what is the actual dps increase from switching from Ascension upgrade and writhing armor banding to 684 capital punisher/684 Best in slots and use double Lining embellishments?
I think im dumb and I cannot sim it correctly because I don't have the capital punisher yet.
winter shoal
You can sim it in raidbots using the top gear sim
At the top here, just enter it in item search
I guess you said m cap but same idea
vivid egret
1quick question
if i were 4/8 and then i got brought into mugzee and killed him, in my vault do i have a chance to get house of cards or do i have to kill bandit
winter shoal
Vault could give HoC yes, dinar could not
And every raid vault after that should also be able to give HoC
slim coral
At the top here, just enter it in item search
sullen dove
what
remote bobcat
You ready for the warrior retrospective
did archi give an ETA?
junior gale
yeah the last one
remote bobcat
yea but that could be tomorrow or in 2 weeks
remote bobcat
i just need a 13 for 3k why wont ppl inv me
because 3k is low io for today's standards
sullen dove
You ready for the warrior retrospective
haha
yea
"warrior is fine"
"perfect talents"
sinful spoke
because 3k is low io for today's standards
uhm
sullen dove
"nothing wrong"
sinful spoke
im saying i want 3k
slim coral
with the state of fury in m+
remote bobcat
thats why ur not getting invites
slim coral
better be like 5 things listed
sinful spoke
kronzo bad
sinful spoke
"nothing wrong"
same reason warrior got nerfed b2b in s1
ppl saying "Warrior still good"
after nerfs
every nerf
"we'll be fine"
sullen dove
love reverse sand bagging
fiery edge
"fine"
fiery edge
fury => foory
summer quail
i just need a 13 for 3k why wont ppl inv me
prob easier to get 2 chest a rookery 12 no?
tepid cedar
anyone figure out a good farm for the corrupted mementos?
tepid cedar
dont do the scenarios jsut the mobs?
sinful spoke
might start going for 3100 again like in df
sinful spoke
dont do the scenarios jsut the mobs?
kill everything includes scenarios
tepid cedar
there has to be another way, i message dsomeone selliong it, they said mnount in like 30 minutes
was trying to get info on how lol
fiery edge
wow blood dk and outlaw just ninja logged off my key
remote bobcat
wow blood dk and outlaw just ninja logged off my key
What?
keen kindle
fury is playable so its fine
Then fury needs another nerf
red berry
no its okay they'll see the retrospective
and they'll ddecide to give us more buffs
if they don't fix the bug tomorrow ill be so happy
remote bobcat
you're smoking a lot of copium
storm birch
my damage here in this 16 meadery gives me good hope for our state after the buffs tomorrow 🥲
slim coral
there has to be another way, i message dsomeone selliong it, they said mnount in...
that's literally impossible
celest anchor
are you doing the cheese strat that doesnt let any bombs spawn on the entire bo...
Nah there was definitely still bombs was just “tech” in the way of standing in his aoe circle everytime with just reflect instead of running out and losing a lot of uptime
sinful spoke
Gally dies this week and i can buy mythic jastor :stonks
remote bobcat
Nah there was definitely still bombs was just “tech” in the way of standing in h...
i assume you cant tank a single suppression circle or you're effectively dead?
celest anchor
i assume you cant tank a single suppression circle or you're effectively dead?
Think that’s what you would save enraged regen for incase that happens
remote bobcat
Think that’s what you would save enraged regen for incase that happens
fair
sudden tusk
my damage here in this 16 meadery gives me good hope for our state after the buf...
seismic bug : )
modest condor
: )
sour tundra
anyone figure out a good farm for the corrupted mementos?
honestly just waiting until you can speed run 4-5 masks and full clear it. then repeat that over and over. More masks mean more mementos but people have found that 4-5 is the sweet spot for mementoes per hour.
silk wharf
If only odyns wasnt behind the two point crit node.
sullen dove
if only odyns wasnt
waxen valley
Also how bad is Onslaught
sour tundra
Legion remix is coming out Odyns fury will rise again
waxen valley
What do I swap for odyns fury
I was serious about this
remote bobcat
What do I swap for odyns fury
Apparently we swap out VC for it
If anything
Its up to sims innit
waxen valley
Apparently we swap out VC for it
Oh, what other than that do we swap? Since we need to take Critical Thinking then Odyn's Fury
remote bobcat
lads
god
lightmode
get out
anyways, OF is a small aoe gain
nothing worth fussing over
you can sim what to swap out depending on your gear
drowsy sphinx
But ww buff without ww usage on thane)
pine gust
That's why they buff TC too
drowsy sphinx
But why not 125% XD
pine gust
Btw is the seismic bug fix confirmed in patch?
remote bobcat
But why not 125% XD
because its already good
drowsy sphinx
True
compact knot
what is the seismic bug
pine gust
Basically dmg double dips on itself
tight roost
Edit: too slow
remote bobcat
that has been the case all this time
yeppers
which means our numbers are indeed that garbage
compact knot
i forget that seismic buffs TC, i remember it being like 0.05% of my damage in a key in DF lmao
remote bobcat
its significant atm
remote bobcat
yo khazix are u trying out loboz build for funzies
compact knot
yo khazix are u trying out loboz build for funzies
link
remote bobcat
with the buff
1sec
beware its cursed asf
CgEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA0YYGbmZYmlxMjFmZmxMMDjttZGzMzGzMjxMMjFbzwMmBAAAix2yALgBMDTgBbA
the idea is that you always BT > Exe > RB
even in aoe
compact knot
im a big fan of bt spam
inland pagoda
Is it actually worth taking Odyn's Fury after the buff?
compact knot
well i kinda figured out that i was griefing myself and running wrong arms talents
compact knot
Is it actually worth taking Odyn's Fury after the buff?
probably not
inland pagoda
damn
remote bobcat
Is it actually worth taking Odyn's Fury after the buff?
small aoe gain while losing small st
no big deal
I'd take odyns if ur playing with windwalker and arcane or smth
inland pagoda
fair enough
midnight kite
It might be kinda fun on Rik for sniping barrel damage
remote bobcat
It might be kinda fun on Rik for sniping barrel damage
barrels are 41 seconds apart roughly, first one coming at 22 seconds ish
its hella awkward
rik sucks btw
shit fight
compact knot
my god that build would also shit on stix
i should have played that instead of colossus
red berry
no its not giving 70% on whirlwind, just thunderclap
compact knot
loboz build has shit ST
stix isnt a ST boss
red berry
but they haven't announced if they're fixing it
remote bobcat
i mean yeah but like
compact knot
and has a 100% damage amp on adds that die instantly
remote bobcat
thane is better at killing stix adds
remote bobcat
it is cuz of that tblast range increase talent
red berry
if they do fix it id ideally want for them to buff it more then 25% lmao
remote bobcat
you kill adds off ur screen
compact knot
also im gonna try to do like 4m dps on vexie as prot
i think its possible
just have to crank
remote bobcat
you need good bike baits
so u have at least 3 targets to revenge at once
for colossal might stacks
smoky vale
stix isnt a ST boss
yeah it is bro
smoky vale
where is the evidence
remote bobcat
@sullen dove
smoky vale
ive messed up on stix 2 times
remote bobcat
told me
smoky vale
EVER
sullen dove
remote bobcat
let him join u
smoky vale
thwn i got dont a spot
remote bobcat
remote bobcat
why is ur name a league character btw
smoky vale
nope
remote bobcat
whats up with that
smoky vale
he likes it
remote bobcat
he's a roach
clever belfry
kabumm
compact siren
Galastronk should cook something
gleaming siren
Giostronk57
sullen dove
galakittystack57
slim coral
galakittystack57
wise solar
my damage here in this 16 meadery gives me good hope for our state after the buf...
I made some calculation (checked my runs and multiplied Thunder Blast + Thunder Clap dmg), and it was around ~5% total dmg increase.
Which means we could do 4.37M -> 4.59M DMG, which I think still way low compared to any other B tier spec.
In this case, you would be still below the Monk.
mossy fox
assuming they fix seismic reverb, the buff won't do anything
wise solar
assuming they fix seismic reverb, the buff won't do anything
Yeah I've seen you video about it, but it would be so sad, that I rather smoke copium 😄
slim coral
are you doing the cheese strat that doesnt let any bombs spawn on the entire bo...
this is a thing?
south kayak
i pulled mugzee and my computer froze and exploded
That reminds me when I got ball on stix and my game froze for 7 seconds
I noticed my game is freezing a lot more this patch
it never froze like this before
sudden tusk
im not sure whats causing
it actually crashed my computer
i might have ran out of memory becuase i left my browser open for a bunch of days in a row mem leak maybe
slim coral
my ram died 2 days ago
I was so worried cause my computer didn't boot
but luckily the motherboard made it simple and was blinding red on the dram
south kayak
It doesn't help but I have never seen this many complains about screen freezes before
fiery thorn
mossy fox
That reminds me when I got ball on stix and my game froze for 7 seconds
sure you didnt just intentionally wipe raid because you got ball mechanic
mossy fox
2 weeks ago i backpedaled off the edge on gally with the blaze lines lmao
south kayak
shell went off
earnest canyon
I hate WeakAuras
dont use them, use the force instead
slim coral
2 weeks ago i backpedaled off the edge on gally with the blaze lines lmao
did you beat expedtion 33 yet
mossy fox
did you beat expedtion 33 yet
yes
mossy fox
but act 3 was a bit weaker than act 1 and 2 imo, still insanely good though
yeah soundcloud guy cooked
slim coral
yeah thats fair
also the side content
is literalyl insane
for being "side content"
slim coral
I'll have to watch lmao that boss is goated
mossy fox
man it was so lame
i saw last phase right, it's super cool
but on the kill i managed to stunlock him and kill him before he transitioned
flat river
Galastronk should cook something
say less
mossy fox
i sent like 3x maelle gommages on him before he got his turn
flat river
when i come home from my exam ill cook something
mossy fox
hi gala
slim coral
i sent like 3x maelle gommages on him before he got his turn
I'll watch it after my breakfast is done cooking will make for great content
mossy fox
I spent 2 hours prepping to get some gradient charge boosting pictos and some damage ones that I missed
p1 he didnt even get a turn even though i use a 5x enemy health mod
i actually just dont like how i killed him so im prolly gonna do a non-modded no attacks parry-only kill on him
slim coral
yeah his p2 final phase is sick asf
bitter palm
when i come home from my exam ill cook something
hi gio57
thick fossil
torpid elbow
Well selling my gaming laptop and buying a box
flat river
https://tenor.com/view/roingus-jerboa-hi-hiii-hello-gif-22414572
i need him
edgy oasis
So, 16 CB. I am raid gear with thane m+ build without meta trinkets even with the 5% buff...still miles behind. Is it ME or every fury?
sudden tusk
its all fury
cinderbrew is a high mobcount dungeon like priory is very rough for fury warrior
the class itself just cannot perform high overall numbers based on design. it is good enough to do high keys, it's will just not do high overalls
hardy vault
raid build ? So slayer ?
edgy oasis
raid build ? So slayer ?
sorry, i mean, gear - enchants
inner zinc
Wait the thane buffs are already live?
I thought they were only going live with reset
slim coral
fury is ass in m+ nothing can save it unless it gets the 5 cap taken away
feral quartz
whirlwind buff gonna make it a better filler in st than slam?
sullen dove
proly
whole yacht
Wait the thane buffs are already live?
Nah. They go live on reset
thick fossil
Always remember the fucking meme from S1. We're still fucked from that.
Not saying we'd be meta or anything, but we'd be in a much better position. Our cool downs had bigger caps, more burst on mostly shorter cool down. Talent trees rework was the only welcome change we got and even that wasn't great.
earnest canyon
Always remember the fucking meme from S1. We're still fucked from that.
whats an S1?
sullen dove
season 1
earnest canyon
oh lmao
Thnought it was some korean band as they all have weird names like BLT and stuff
hushed ocean
our day will come.
earnest canyon
tomo for me......5% buff, wooo!
tepid cedar
man i been playing with thane and OF. it jsut feels so off. lolz
during downtime gona play with talent min max. but its jsut an off button to press in thane
wel it feels like that
sullen dove
think ppl dropped using of even last season as thane
too awkward
maybe good for like super high count dungeons or something if u need the burst
but vc just cool
opal monolith
think ppl dropped using of even last season as thane
of? Only fans?
opal monolith
slate oyster
Morning, Does anyone know which corruption I use in fury
plush zephyr
#updates-midnight void ritual
sour frigate
tepid cedar
yea, odyns SUCKS on thane. legit its a dps loss on 10 targets, lolol
was like .2-.5% loss
if they fix reverb we going straight to the dumpster lololz
fiery edge
we're already in the dumpster
dense elbow
I keep telling ppl that OF is a DPS loss, why noone ever believe me
tepid cedar
we're already in the dumpster
nlol right now we are in the top of the treashbag. this time we get thrown the truck lol.
gilded pawn
They hated you because you spoke the truth
tepid cedar
these warrior devs are legit fucking mentally challenged.
tepid cedar
I keep telling ppl that OF is a DPS loss, why noone ever believe me <:sadge:8202...
lol u know i like to run the shit as well lol
fiery edge
dense elbow
Don't blame the warrior dev, blame the balance team. I am 100% certain they are not the same.
fiery edge
u sure it's 100%?
dense elbow
Warrior keep getting pushed into a niche, that gets balanced away
tepid cedar
theres no way a warrior dev dosnt have input or plays a part of the balance team lol
remote bobcat
theres a design team and then theres a balance team. I'd imagine the balance team only ever consults the warrior dev when it comes to gameplay altering changes
but if its just number tweaks
why consult a warr designer
outer ridge
im sure the real reason is none of the devs play m+ past 12s
dense elbow
Warrior dev looks at his class, a tear falling down his chin..."look what they did to my boy..."
remote bobcat
im sure the real reason is none of the devs play m+ past 12s
thats speculatory beyond belief and also what difference does it make? You dont have to play 19s to see what happens in 19s
tepid cedar
or these mother fuckers are too proud to ask ppl in community who know the class in and out, like archi and some others in here ( other specs as well)
glad coyote
BUFFS TODAY!!!!
remote bobcat
not to mention that they barely balance around m+ anyway
tepid cedar
BUFFS TODAY!!!!
dont get excited grasshopper
its a nerf kinda
and if they fix reverb huge nerf
lol
hushed ocean
is there a wowhead post about the sismic bug ? and eventually about the fix ?
dense elbow
Well, Slayer do get a tiny buff
remote bobcat
or these mother fuckers are too proud to ask ppl in community who know the class...
its highly possible that they intentionally avoid direct contact or are encouraged to avoid direct contact
glad coyote
how is this a nerf?
Will be live on May 27th, and should be a roughly 5% increase to Mountain Thane in Mythic+.
Arms Whirlwind damage increased by 100%.,
Fury Whirlwind damage increased by 120%.,
Odyn’s Fury damage increased by 30%.,
Thunder Clap damage increased by 25%.,
Mountain Thane: Thunder Blast damage increased by 25%
in ANY WAY?
remote bobcat
Will be live on May 27th, and should be a roughly 5% increase to Mountain Thane ...
seismic reverb bug fix
tepid cedar
where do u get a 5% buff from lol
remote bobcat
📉
outer ridge
not to mention that they barely balance around m+ anyway
obviously i don't know for sure but don't you think them barely balancing around m+ reinforces the idea that they don't do m+
hushed ocean
where?
glad coyote
where do u get a 5% buff from lol
ask archi
remote bobcat
obviously i don't know for sure but don't you think them barely balancing around...
Absolutely not
they balance around raid because they were told to do so
tepid cedar
ohhh, in general from the other small buffs possibly.,
dense elbow
Do they do m+? Sure. As warrior DPS? No.
remote bobcat
because wow is designed to be a game with everything leading towards raiding, aside from pvp at least
glad coyote
seismic reverb bug fix
Where is this, havntt seen anything about a bugg
remote bobcat
pvp has gone its seperate ways long ago
tepid cedar
Where is this, havntt seen anything about a bugg
lol, not widely known
reverb does like 12-140% more dps than it should.
120
outer ridge
they can just make a better m+ experience without touching balancing for raid
remote bobcat
I dont remember where i saw this but i specifically remember ion himself giving an analogy of his depleted rookery 15 key
tepid cedar
that gets fixed ur 5% goes down. when rever does more damage than TB lolol
dense elbow
I dont remember where i saw this but i specifically remember ion himself giving ...
His key, or a story of a 15 key
remote bobcat
they can just make a better m+ experience without touching balancing for raid
That'd be forcing m+ to go down the pvp route
remote bobcat
His key, or a story of a 15 key <:peepostudy:617259554530656262>
his
i wish i remembered where i heard it
outer ridge
would that be bad? idk the state of pvp in retail
remote bobcat
would that be bad? idk the state of pvp in retail
It's absolutely horrible
outer ridge
like what is stopping them from just having a solo queue for m+
remote bobcat
Mate
its pvp all over again
they tried soloq
they tried other shit
that part of wow is near dead
dense elbow
Problem is going from PvP to PvE or other way around is horrible. It is two different classes of Warrior
remote bobcat
on its last legs
Heres the thing, WoW is a game with intentional imbalances that cause you to go do other content in order to achieve better things in your favourite content, whatever that may be
seperating the modes is shit
it has been proven to be shit
asking for soloq is shit
lost vigil
reverb does like 12-140% more dps than it should.
you talking about the trink?
plush zephyr
Just move to China all they do is m+
remote bobcat
you talking about the trink?
seismic reverberations
dense elbow
asking for soloq is shit
While I dont want solo que, I do want auto que. So I dont have to manually press the button a 100 times.
hardy shuttle
tepid cedar
you talking about the trink?
no, talent.
remote bobcat
While I dont want solo que, I do want auto que. So I dont have to manually press...
real
lost vigil
ah ty ty
hardy shuttle
It's doing 100% not 30
fiery edge
BUFFS TODAY!!!!
I just smashed my TV in front of 30 guests at my party because of the fury "buffs".
My wife just took our 5 crying kids and said they're all spending the weekend at a hotel.
These "buffs" have ruined my life and my expectations - I just want to play the game and have fun.
The developers don't know what they're doing I can't handle this anymore.
Goodbye Blizzard, I'm no longer a fan.
hardy shuttle
They probably spaghetti coded the old legendary power which was 100% back in the day
outer ridge
i mean ill take anything at this point if they aren't going to give us lust or more damage then at least make getting into a key take less than an hour
flat river
I just smashed my TV in front of 30 guests at my party because of the fury "buff...
Real and true
dense elbow
I am just glad they bugfix warrior
hardy shuttle
When crit hit clap on his video im pretty sure it did equal damage on both instances on details but could be wrong
tepid cedar
according to sil, its 130%
hardy shuttle
I watched it immediately after waking up so could've been delusional
lost vigil
just tell me how to feel about today
dense elbow
Neutral
tepid cedar
just tell me how to feel about today
play like normal. lol
dense elbow
Nothing changed
fiery edge
you reroll until season 3 warrior buffs
dense elbow
Guess if you are like me, you are happy that OF isn't as big of a DPS loss to play
So yay
remote bobcat
they did 100%-30% instead of 100%-70% in the damage calc
they did the oopsie
but regardless of what the exact number is, it's kinda crazy how shit fury is balanced in aoe
having to rely on such a bug to still be low average
as thane
dense elbow
Another 60% OF buff and 30% BS buff, and we are actually quite decently in balance on the overall
You will be just under or at the level of others, but: you also bring solid ST to make up for it
(no, MM will still be a ish 300k ahead)
tepid cedar
(no, MM will still be a ish 300k ahead)
and about 10 mill in mt
dense elbow
I meant on overall
hushed ocean
yeah we have solid ST, but in the pool of all target capped loosers, we do the less AOE dps, like a ton, and just a bit more ST
hushed ocean
- no lust + no debuff + no br + nothing
dense elbow
That is fine, as long we got output of dam
hushed ocean
oh, nvm, as thane, we actually slow adds a little bit
tepid cedar
That is fine, as long we got output of dam
this. u dont bring the extra utilities but u bring the boom
cant have neither though
dense elbow
Yarp
hushed ocean
actually we have none
dense elbow
Bring back the concept of hybrid tax, the more you do, the less thin it is done
hushed ocean
when i get invited, i start by making a joke, so i bring something to the group
dense elbow
The classic: everyone got an interrupt. We got ST stun, they got ST stun. We got an AoE stun, they got AoE interupt.
hushed ocean
omg.....Shockwave isn't target cap
dense elbow
Our AoE DPS is saved
tepid cedar
all i know its this. they need to fix prime videos and its buffering issues asap. IRL problems lolol
dense elbow
Or just pray that Reap procs are on your side that day
arctic portal
new talent "shockwave now has no cooldown, knocks enemies up, grants 5% haste per enemy hit and does 600% increased damage"
dense elbow
Make it also enrage us, and ya cooking something that can save us
lime pewter
Don't forget, that it will not have stun DR
dense elbow
It knocks up
arctic portal
"grants bloodlust and rezzes all nearby dead people"
dense elbow
Warrior saved?
lime pewter
Still mid
hushed ocean
if blizz do this : "deals reduced damages beyond 8 targets" then 1 week later "Deals reduced damages beyond 5 targets. Down from 8"
dense elbow
"now hardcapped to hit no targets, heroism effect reduced to 25% and CR now consumed 3 charges per ress"
hushed ocean
we're so cooked
dense elbow
If warrior get heroism, I will laugh, as it will be heroism - but at drums power level
hushed ocean
lol
plush zephyr
Oh yay
Tanks telling us how to use an ability
That’s arguably my biggest pet peeve playing Hunter or mage the tank telling me when to lust lol
hushed ocean
Warrior Heroism : grants 30% hast to 3 members of your party, and a reduced bonus beyond"
dense elbow
That’s arguably my biggest pet peeve playing Hunter or mage the tank telling me ...
It is literally the job they get asked to do by the community at large 
hushed ocean
all our life is being capped
dense elbow
If so, you know they are waiting for their CDs
chilly fractal
Starting Gally prog tonight… god I hope it just takes 2 nights
2 night prog for Mug’Zee has been feeling confident but idk
arctic portal
That’s arguably my biggest pet peeve playing Hunter or mage the tank telling me ...
you dont seem to pug 10s a lot otherwise you would know 99 of 100 bl classes dont use lust when you dont tell them and even then half of them still forgets it even if told 5 seconds before
plush zephyr
LOL
whole yacht
you dont seem to pug 10s a lot otherwise you would know 99 of 100 bl classes don...
Im ngl. I warrior brain on my hunter sometimes and forget to lust
But also im not used to mm having readily accessible lust
remote bobcat
Starting Gally prog tonight… god I hope it just takes 2 nights
You will be fine i bet
undone flower
It knocks up
Tbf I will cry when I will not have colossus knock up on shockwave next patch bc thane on prot etc
I discussed with someone few months ago on « do people realize it is really strong? »
fading sky
Its a stop usable post cc immune
undone flower
20 sec cd
It will never immune cc itself
Unless you have other displacements in your comp ofc but they are rare
gilded pawn
But also im not used to mm having readily accessible lust
Do you remember when people were angry about losing mm hunter pet
whole yacht
Do you remember when people were angry about losing mm hunter pet
No
I didnt pay attention to hunter feelings back then.
plush zephyr
Wild watching Bansherz (BM Hunter) pov beside Noxivs(fury) in a +19. Noxiv is running around sweating meanwhile Bansherz is just chilling pressing two buttons 
opal monolith
Fury = sweating since when
clever belfry
@gleaming siren @oblique trail schmeowdi vs ballnezi
gleaming siren
Schmeowdi epic win
smoky vale
will i win in the box in a few moments
cedar kraken
Are there any potential OF builds running around to play and test around with for funsies?
dense elbow
Are there any potential OF builds running around to play and test around with fo...
Like 3 for Slayer, 2 for Thane. Anything in particular you looking for?
sly crane
2 hour maint? Guess ill go touch grass
dense elbow
They add the lacking 95+% buff it needs
"but funky, then it would be a DPS+ to take! Reeeee"
That is the point
fast mural
They using that extra time for a bigger OF buff
somethings gotta be bugged for sure
maybe we get nerfed cause of this aswell
who knows
cedar kraken
Like 3 for Slayer, 2 for Thane. Anything in particular you looking for?
just something to screw around with in m+ for slayer and thane while we await more content 😄
frank dawn
like ok congratulations, OF is now not a dps loss on AoE (barely lol)
cedar kraken
i cant decide if i drop RB talents or something else, so hoping someone else has something made up
frank dawn
certainly should be the goal of a capstone talent, to just barely not be a dps loss
very nice
cosmic sundial
I’ve been enjoying that loboz build so there’s that one
cedar kraken
I’ve been enjoying that loboz build so there’s that one
what is that one?
frank dawn
it's the spear/roar/of combo of many buttons
dense elbow
just something to screw around with in m+ for slayer and thane while we await mo...
OF/AM/RB:
CgEAO9DBjZzKcjSu6RJDto0RCCAAAAAAAAA0YwYhZsMzyYmZWYmZGzghZ22mZMzMLMzwMDzwitZYmZGAAAIGbbDsAmgZYCMDbA
OF/AM/BT/exe:
CgEAO9DBjZzKcjSu6RJDto0RCCAAAAAAAAA0YwYhZsMzyYmZWYmZGzghx22MjZmZjZmxYGGWegtZYGzAAAAxYbZgFwEMDTgZYD
OF/AM/BT is the build that plays the most as slayer prob is deigned to have fun with.
cedar kraken
cool, thanks
cedar kraken
OF/AM/RB:
CgEAO9DBjZzKcjSu6RJDto0RCCAAAAAAAAA0YwYhZsMzyYmZWYmZGzghZ22mZMzMLMzwM...
i take it OF/AM/BT has BT above RB in priority?
fiery edge
ye for that rng reap proc
cedar kraken
thats what i was thinking since reap was buffed not too long ago
dense elbow
i take it OF/AM/BT has BT above RB in priority?
The BT version got RB as the lowest prio, yep
RB version, RB got prio even on MT that is under 10 targets
fiery edge
damn, wut da hell, still servers are still maint after a nap
cedar kraken
The BT version got RB as the lowest prio, yep
one more question. Where do we put OF in our priority and/or opener?
past cedar
Hello! Im asking this question out of curiosity. How is warrior feeling? Both Arms and Fury, are we having fun? Considering either a Warrior, Hunter or a Rogue. So was hoping some of you with experience could brighten my mind into consideration
fiery edge
BUT
plush zephyr
Send it and play warrior
I’ve played a lot of classes, I always come back to Fury or Arms
Consistently the most rewarding in terms of, fun. To me anyway.
storm birch
I made some calculation (checked my runs and multiplied Thunder Blast + Thunder ...
Yea I don’t expect to be a Bis spec but more competitive with AoE and possibly best on ST? Not sure how many specs outperform our ST. It’ll be nice to not be F tier
undone flower
one more question. Where do we put OF in our priority and/or opener?
I think he does similar to S1 opener, just he replace TT OF by the cast of OF
Which is charge, CD+ OF, roar and bs
tepid cedar
t minus 30 minutes until our real buff hap[pens when we get greater helm enchant HAHAHAHA
storm birch
I made some calculation (checked my runs and multiplied Thunder Blast + Thunder ...
Also when I took everything into account including the whirlwind buffs my damage was 4.76m dps. So higher than the monk but not quite at 5m like the rogue
storm birch
seismic bug : )
Is it confirmed to be getting fixed? I hadn’t seen
earnest canyon
https://tenor.com/view/sclub-party-jump-gif-3574170
lol I remember them
remote bobcat
omgg hii @sudden tusk big fan of the seismic reverberations
sly acorn
Guys what ilvl is good for +5 visions ? And which spec? XD
thick fossil
lol I remember them
That was the first thing that popped into my mind when I say your ping. I was working in a faraday cage for most of the morning, so zero signal till lunch break.
So why are the servers still down?
tepid cedar
Guys what ilvl is good for +5 visions ? And which spec? XD
if ur tank is decked out. running tank is op af
fiery edge
cooking foory "buffs"
past cedar
Send it and play warrior
So u would recommend to go warr over hunter and rogue?
storm birch
do we get our greater rune this week ?
thick fossil
if ur tank is decked out. running tank is op af
I heard that, so if I ever decide to grind it I'll give it a try.
thick fossil
cooking foory "buffs"
tepid cedar
So u would recommend to go warr over hunter and rogue?
just play whast uy enjoy., and go solo solo
fiery edge
So u would recommend to go warr over hunter and rogue?
ask yourself if you like warrior itself
winter shoal
So u would recommend to go warr over hunter and rogue?
I haven't played hunter since mop, but I've played a bit of rogue in the past couple expansions, and it's kind of fun, but not what I would want to main personally. Sin is strong but you spend a lot of time afking for energyin raid/M+ bosses. Outlaw was really fun in df s3 but from what I've heard it's gone downhill a bit since then (haven't played it in TWW). I haven't played sub at all but from what I've heard it's a super burtsy cd spec where you just kind of afk between cds, which is quite different from how warrior plays
earnest canyon
I haven't played hunter since mop, but I've played a bit of rogue in the past co...
Outlaw is a proper hand breaking spec. I can do fury but not outlaw
plush zephyr
Fire mage is the only thing that has strained my hand
strange gulch
i was 1 shotting some mobs with 4 masks on
Sure. It isn't about how much health mobs have. It is about time/sanity management.
winter shoal
he doesnt know the bugfix
buff more than makes up for the bug fix
edgy widget
maybe if you'd stop yapping about it every 30 seconds @remote bobcat, people could enjoy things!
winter shoal
also not confirmed
storm birch
lmao
everywhere I look I see a hype about the buffs countered with a drag about a bug
🤦♂️
edgy widget
everywhere I look I see a hype about the buffs countered with a drag about a bug
because they just found out about it last week, and they're desperate to feel cool about it
mossy pelican
🤫
edgy widget
whats the bug fix
I'll tell you once I verify it
storm birch
Question. Asking it here instead of arms channel cause idk they might gang up on me. Does arms give up a lot of ST in their M+ build? Like does fury outperform on bosses typically in m+? I know in raid they're a bit more similar
edgy widget
Question. Asking it here instead of arms channel cause idk they might gang up on...
#arms look at this nerd asking about Arms in the FURY channel
mossy pelican
There is no war in ba sing se
storm birch
because they just found out about it last week, and they're desperate to feel co...
😢
Well the reason I ask was foundationally going to be about fury D:
winter shoal
Question. Asking it here instead of arms channel cause idk they might gang up on...
Fury is pretty well ahead of arms in single target in M+ spec yeah
storm birch
<#148898720803586048> look at this nerd asking about Arms in the FURY channel
fair and true
winter shoal
That's like the only reason you'd bring fury over arms
edgy widget
Colossus gives up a lot of ST yes
but Arms doesn't play MT build in raid either
winter shoal
Last I simmed for myself it was like 15ish%?
As in thane was 15% higher single target than col
storm birch
Fury is pretty well ahead of arms in single target in M+ spec yeah
reason i mention is cause I'm hoping fury will be slightly more attractive than arms in these coming changes
winter shoal
I mean arms still probably better outside of TOP
steel briar
Question. Asking it here instead of arms channel cause idk they might gang up on...
QUICK! EVERYBODY GET HIM!
winter shoal
but fury will be less worse
storm birch
QUICK! EVERYBODY GET HIM!
plush zephyr
Franklin goes hard
final eagle
reason i mention is cause I'm hoping fury will be slightly more attractive than...
The only way that happens its not having AOE cap or at least 8 targets, or soft cap
plush zephyr
Boss damage for Fury is nice, but Arms being able to down bigger packs quicker is less stress on your tank and healer and better overall for the group imo
storm birch
Hmmm
winter shoal
Boss damage for Fury is nice, but Arms being able to down bigger packs quicker i...
I mean it kinda depends on your group comp but yeah
plush zephyr
I like both, play both
winter shoal
If you're not playing title keys just do whatever
plush zephyr
Doesn't really matter
winter shoal
You won't be bottlenecked by the numerical difference between specs
storm birch
Idk. Maybe I need to watch more Arms content from this season to see what their dmg is like
winter shoal
Hit your kicks and do mechanics, and either spec is plenty capable of doing high keys when played well
storm birch
I'm only really going off the mythicstats numbers and the ST numbers that I know of
plush zephyr
Watch some Critcake
storm birch
Haha I typically do! When he's playing fury
plush zephyr
I watch Noxiv a lot tbh
storm birch
Yea same
My goal this whole season has been to be top 10 Fury world but that's not saying much since so many probably went to arms
Noxiv claps
plush zephyr
I've watched you, you could do it
storm birch
I've watched you, you could do it
I appreciate it. I think I need to stop pugging and find a group. My playtimes are so all over the place that I don't think I'd be a good team member 😦
plush zephyr
I feel that
storm birch
I really am looking forward to these changes though. And I'm guessing we are getting greater runes this week? Which is what like another 1.5% or so? Not sure. Plus I finally have a chance for Mythic BiS in vault let's gooooo o
We eatin this week boiz
thick fossil
maybe if you'd stop yapping about it every 30 seconds <@294878943004327952>, peo...
And pigs will sprout wings and fly.
winter shoal
The pigs have needed a buff like this for a while
Glad to see the balance team finally taking action
edgy widget
they wouldn't know what to do with it if they could!