#fury

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remote bobcat
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you have something to do instead of being afk clicking revenge once every 2 seconds

smoky turret
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if we had s1 rage and s2 colo

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itd be pretty dope

remote bobcat
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yea

smoky turret
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o and if we still had s1 aug

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imagine

remote bobcat
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but shouldnt complain, prot raid damage is already stupid

dense elbow
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HOLD THE FUCK UP

undone flower
dense elbow
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THEY DIDNT BUFF PROT WW?!

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RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGEE!

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MY 2HAND PROT SPEC?!!?

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BLIZZ?!

undone flower
remote bobcat
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yo funky are u eu or na

dense elbow
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EUNE

remote bobcat
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do u wanna run visions?

dense elbow
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Nop

remote bobcat
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can try loboz build in visions

dense elbow
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Gala would love to tho, I heard rumors he really enjoy em

remote bobcat
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nah that egyptian god can stay away from me

undone flower
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i enjoy visions, i'm trying to do 5 masks

remote bobcat
stone locust
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For MT in single target m+ do you use the recommended aoe opener for MT?

remote bobcat
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its easier that way

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(dont come near me)

dense elbow
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Enjoy, I just didnt feel it. Did my 2 runs to get the enchantment, noticed I did it all on autopilot from BFA. So didnt have any fun

undone flower
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i did 3-4 attempts and i just lack sanity to finish mage+ alleria

dense elbow
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I believe in ya, ya got it next run

remote bobcat
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not enough potions

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and not french enough

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u need to succumb to the hon hon hon

lean nacelle
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Does the thunderblast changes make it worth pressing in ST over RB and BT?

undone flower
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i'm eating bread to heal my sanity

dense elbow
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Ovenproof asking the real questions, tho I cant answer. Not a Thane enjoyer

remote bobcat
smoky turret
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i thought tb> rb is always the case?

undone flower
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that's what i thought, i was confused a lil bit

lean nacelle
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oh I thought there was a point where you didn't press it because it was a damage loss compared to RB and BT

remote bobcat
remote bobcat
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unfortunately

undone flower
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isn't it even over rampage ?

dense elbow
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TB is the giga dam proc, so I am glad to hear ya guys used it gladge

remote bobcat
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its above rampage unless enrage gone

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fun fact its also above t roar

dense elbow
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Isnt anything? ._.

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stupid weakass roar

smoky turret
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it went from dragon roar to uwu roar

undone flower
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i'm the only mf doing visions on my server

remote bobcat
remote bobcat
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its 5 am

dense elbow
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Perfect time to do a vision before you head for work

undone flower
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i'm in uni vacation

remote bobcat
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my server looking decent in comparison

undone flower
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until september

smoky turret
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what i dont understand is

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why does roar deal more st than spear

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w/o cap stones

remote bobcat
undone flower
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think more that roar + 2 crit does more than spear + capstones

remote bobcat
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roar baseline does like 200k more damage

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thats it

smoky turret
dense elbow
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Spear is CC, as such should do max 15% AP damage.

smoky turret
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more ap isnt it?

remote bobcat
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only with capstone

dense elbow
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Spear always chains, wdum? =_=

remote bobcat
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oh nvm im dumb

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cant rea

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d

dense elbow
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Hydrate This server man

undone flower
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it's the brown icon confusing you, great tuning patch it was

remote bobcat
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im curious if spear has a place in dfc

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cuz of those knockbacks

smoky vale
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@dense elbow

smoky turret
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hmmm

undone flower
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idk, i play prot so i just shockwave bump the fuckers

remote bobcat
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the timing isnt easy tho

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miss one fella and yoink

undone flower
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just stay in the bump and don't move

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you will not die and charge back

smoky turret
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i beg my teammates to deal with it just like how i begged them to play keys with me

dense elbow
modest condor
remote bobcat
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sil big fan

modest condor
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im pretty sure as a fury warrior you can stay in on like a +20

remote bobcat
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theres a silmarien in french warriors guild

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did u know that

modest condor
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no

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but im sorry to hear that

smoky vale
undone flower
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yes that's his dh alt

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in my guild

dense elbow
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okayge Gala57

remote bobcat
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gio

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do u only stream on yt

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or also twitch

smoky vale
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yeah

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only yt

remote bobcat
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why

undone flower
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goon allowed ?

smoky vale
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bc i only care about using the vod feature from yt

remote bobcat
smoky vale
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dont really care about "growing" as a streamer

remote bobcat
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gio

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did u watch dexter

smoky vale
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hi

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no

remote bobcat
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u should

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is good

smoky vale
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is that teh scary show

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or

wicked beacon
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Well i died twice and did 3.75m overall in ML 16 with the Loboz build lol

remote bobcat
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its not scary

lost parcel
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i was gaming tonight guys okayge (stix)

wicked beacon
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Bossdamage is really high though

remote bobcat
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its basically like death note but instead of the death note and kira its just a psychopatch killer

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its rly good

winter shoal
lost parcel
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listen

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half my raid was dead

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lol

winter shoal
smoky vale
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do not bring stix up

undone flower
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WDYM HALF DEAD AND YOU GET 4 PI

winter shoal
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GZ though

smoky vale
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swordish got a rnak 1 stolen

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by our raid

winter shoal
lost parcel
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to be fair, one of our priests also pis me regularly because we play together a lot

winter shoal
lost parcel
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so i had friend buff

remote bobcat
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gio

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watch it

lost parcel
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friend buff op :^)

undone flower
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oh feet pic privilege, i understand, those PI are allowed

smoky vale
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cant

remote bobcat
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cant what

smoky vale
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im supposed to be watching one piece

remote bobcat
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yea right

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fk that mediocre show

smoky vale
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its true

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i have to finish wano

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and egg head

remote bobcat
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you dont have to do anything

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except follow your heart

smoky vale
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i already commited

remote bobcat
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lets face it

smoky vale
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its being finished

undone flower
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and pay taxes

fiery edge
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Ww and thunder clap/blast cheek getting buff bedge

remote bobcat
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nah lets face it

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theres a reason u havent been continuing it

fiery edge
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Still being capped for ages

remote bobcat
smoky vale
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its bc rooftop piece is slow

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af

remote bobcat
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stop coping

undone flower
smoky vale
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no

fiery edge
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I… sadge

smoky vale
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ive been watching

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🙂

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1/2 episodes a week

fiery edge
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Nvm game sucks sadge

remote bobcat
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then watch dexter

dense elbow
# wicked beacon Bossdamage is really high though

Just go the normal Slayer M+ build, less highroll AoE DPS, but more boss dam and prio target. Quite good for breaking down the big robots and what not.

I recommend loboz build for fun factor, tho gladge

remote bobcat
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the other days

smoky vale
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bro im not watching a new show

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unless a girl wants me to

undone flower
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funky stop propagand ww buff for prot, if it hits prot, we press it as colossus

smoky vale
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theres no way pressing ww is better than revenge

winter shoal
fiery edge
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Colosussy

undone flower
smoky vale
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nice

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but

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why would you

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when revenge exists

remote bobcat
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^

dense elbow
undone flower
smoky vale
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its only relevant

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for 2h

dense elbow
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Gio doesnt know?

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lol

remote bobcat
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no but why would you ever click ww over revenge unless ur holding a 2h

dense elbow
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Gio a 180!

smoky vale
dense elbow
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lol

smoky vale
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is it better than revenge in st

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or

dense elbow
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not even 360, get good

wicked beacon
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Funkykitty i played the loboz build for fun

remote bobcat
wicked beacon
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It was pretty fun

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If nothing else, at least a lot different

dense elbow
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It really is, AM Slayer always been fun

smoky vale
dense elbow
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well, AM exe slayer

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One more BS 30% buff btw, and it is just as strong (profile wise) as it was in season 1!

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Only one more buff!!!

fiery edge
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Is it the same as funky’s?

remote bobcat
dense elbow
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gladge OF only needs another 60% after this, and BS +30%

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And I am content

undone flower
dense elbow
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Give me that 120% WW buff, and my 2hand pwarrior is going in again

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I presume the blast/TC buff will overlap from arms to prot as well keks

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2h prot will be stronger than ever!

fiery edge
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Wtf 2h prot

fiery edge
remote bobcat
dense elbow
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Hm? Yes and no, we both play that build, I just more often use another one instead.

winter shoal
dense elbow
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Tho, you kinda dont want to use our builds, we kinda play how we want, performance be damned

fiery edge
remote bobcat
winter shoal
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Real talk if you're playing fury in keys that aren't TOP, you're past the point of trying to optimize your gameplay keks

remote bobcat
winter shoal
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Or your spec decisions at least

winter shoal
remote bobcat
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the last page was this:

remote bobcat
dense elbow
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"fury warrior is more than pressing procs"... what procs?

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We aint Lock'n'load huntardinos

chilly fractal
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@edgy widget I feel so defeated... on LFR OAB

dense elbow
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We dont press exe

fiery edge
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Thunder blast bedge

dense elbow
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get out of here

remote bobcat
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in st

dense elbow
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Get ooooouta here

storm birch
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finally !

chilly fractal
dense elbow
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Gz! :D

storm birch
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thank you !!

remote bobcat
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thats 5 conditions

dense elbow
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get ooooooooout'aaaaaah heeeeeeeeeere

winter shoal
remote bobcat
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ok sure

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4 conditionals

dense elbow
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My conditional:
Execute

remote bobcat
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im js sayin man

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we do press exe

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also

feral ivy
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mug prog 😦 we are killing adds and im in the add kill

dense elbow
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Nah, I deny that on principle, cause exe bad and this is known.

remote bobcat
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the reason i made that statement meme is because we specifically do NOT press execute whenever it procs

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we press it in specific moments

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thats why its more than just pressing procs asap

dense elbow
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Just dont play with RB talents

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press exe

remote bobcat
remote bobcat
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play arms on mugzee to extend jugg for exephase

smoky vale
winter shoal
smoky vale
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is there functionality to shwo where i made bad globals

remote bobcat
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in timeline

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i think it has that

winter shoal
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Yes

crude ridge
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I'm free!

remote bobcat
storm birch
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ayeeeee

modest condor
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grats

dense elbow
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LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

remote bobcat
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wp wp

undone flower
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GFGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

remote bobcat
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🤝

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i also got my ce today

dense elbow
remote bobcat
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i was doing good ok

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as prot

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ok

dense elbow
remote bobcat
undone flower
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funky day it is, i kill mug and couple gallys

remote bobcat
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jaja

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yo french warri

smoky vale
remote bobcat
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your prog

storm birch
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slayer felt pretty good on bandit

winter shoal
# remote bobcat in timeline

Correct but note that the tooltips for arms are auto-generated based on the APL conditions, which are kind of scuffed, so you get stuff like this https://wowanalyzer.com/report/MmtTGN1fdBFQC7cz/54-Mythic+Sprocketmonger+Lockenstock+-+Kill+(5:27)/Giofiveseven/standard/timeline
Also note that the SD buff duration bug is still a thing because I haven't had time to fix it yet

remote bobcat
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hows it goin

storm birch
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only got a 90 for dmg but 95 on boss dmg

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was pumpin on the boss

winter shoal
smoky vale
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nvm you answered my 2nd question

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yeah

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but i get a bunch of the execute ones

undone flower
remote bobcat
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wym?

winter shoal
undone flower
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like mine (since i started to dps on bandit), everything was prot

smoky vale
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me when i press execute at the last global possible

winter shoal
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Okay gio here's what you do

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Git clone the repo

remote bobcat
winter shoal
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Add a normalizer for SD buff events

remote bobcat
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i have no idea what ur talking about french warr

undone flower
smoky vale
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which repo

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the wowa

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for amrs

remote bobcat
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doesnt matter

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i dont

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what?

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what are u talking about brother

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elaborate

winter shoal
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Figure out what the fuck is wrong with the SD buff events (probably also need to figure out where the AplCheck logic happens so you can add breakpoints/logs to it and find what the actual logic error is)

undone flower
remote bobcat
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so u must suck as prot

undone flower
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no i suck as fury

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it's just we needed a monk buff but only a brew is tagging so we will lose 500k dps on Happy

winter shoal
# winter shoal Figure out what the fuck is wrong with the SD buff events (probably also need to...

@smoky vale I worked around this in the fury module because the logic is applied differently so I'm able to directly listen for the buff events and keep track of a separate buff timestamp rather than the built-in hasBuff() check, but the arms AplCheck can't do that because of the way that it is 🙂 https://github.com/WoWAnalyzer/WoWAnalyzer/blob/the-war-within/src/analysis/retail/warrior/fury/modules/spells/SlayerExecute.tsx#L113-L125

smoky vale
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ill check the fury one to see how you did it

solid lily
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is BT prio over RB?

smoky vale
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in how many targets

winter shoal
smoky vale
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i think its over 5 else rb

smoky vale
# winter shoal aware

me hwne i have never worked with an actual project and only doen small programs for school

solid lily
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Im new, so ST rb 5+ bt?

winter shoal
crude ridge
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not to bad for a first gally kill

solid lily
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how about execute is it prio over bt or rb?

winter shoal
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Thane basically only ever presses exe if it literally has no other buttons to press

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For slayer it's more complicated

smoky vale
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why are the 2 wowa for fury built differently

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oh nah

winter shoal
smoky vale
winter shoal
remote bobcat
undone flower
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Je suis gnome

remote bobcat
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stop

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speak english

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french is a bad language

storm rune
sullen dove
smoky vale
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erm i meant warrior

winter shoal
# smoky vale

Both specs basically have a collection of discrete checks (e.g. SlayerExecute.tsx for fury, Demolish.tsx for arms), but arms ALSO has AplCheck.tsx which is what populates the rotation section at the top of the overview (fury does not)

smoky vale
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but yuo got what i meant

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ic

winter shoal
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cd up a couple folders in fury tho

smoky vale
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is it bc fury is just press rampage

remote bobcat
solid lily
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ty

feral ivy
deep sapphire
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So with the upcoming Odyn’s Fury buff are we going to start taking it in keys again finally?

smoky vale
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im going to scream

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they killed ra

sullen dove
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(7)

red berry
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i think my bigger issue with lobez's spec re: slayer

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fierce followthrough gains bigger value when you can actually build crit via the talent

remote bobcat
red berry
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but you can't do that

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and the other option is raging blow

sullen dove
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long breaks and starting late n shit

undone flower
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You can become Loboz thane

smoky vale
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in mugzee

sullen dove
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sweeping execute y not

red berry
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opportunist is also kind of lame without

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hack and slash and also slaughterstrikes

remote bobcat
junior gale
smoky vale
remote bobcat
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if you're able to CS with enemy hp 20% of below u get 10% bonus haste

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use that to ur advantage

smoky vale
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true

remote bobcat
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with sweeping ofc*

smoky vale
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ik

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that i want to hold bs

junior gale
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everytime I did it felt always worth to hold the CS for the execute add

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was big dam

smoky vale
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bc i think sweeping execute is more dmaage

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than bs

junior gale
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yeah I held BS everytime

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was better to just spam execute + MS

winter shoal
junior gale
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bis scenario is BS before add flys in

winter shoal
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I thought it was always 35%

remote bobcat
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oh yea it is 35%

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mb

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below 35%

smoky vale
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wait

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do you get 20% + 10%

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because 2 targets

junior gale
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no

smoky vale
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also how does iftk work in aoe

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or its only based on the primary target

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then how does aoe cs work

remote bobcat
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nonono you can for sure CS mugzee when add is 30% hp and get 20% haste

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i did that many times

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and checked number

junior gale
remote bobcat
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@sullen dove why do u have wrecking on mugzee

junior gale
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free dmg when your outta range

remote bobcat
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dont u lose

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significant nodes tho

junior gale
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no

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not in raid build

undone flower
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you don't need stuns etc

junior gale
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^

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charge wrecking throw on pull is nice

undone flower
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and it's a better ww/slam i guess (does it have min range like charge?)

junior gale
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you can wrecking in melee

dense elbow
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It gens no rage tho

remote bobcat
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no but

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lemme think

dense elbow
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It can't crit either sadge

remote bobcat
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ah just dont go second wind ig

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and some other nodes

smoky vale
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bro

remote bobcat
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eh thats mad weird

smoky vale
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ss cs is so huge

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i legit jump to the top

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every time

sullen dove
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idk

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5% movespeed maybe

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but who care

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wreck gladge

hoary fox
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Big dam

junior gale
dense elbow
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Wreck do feel good 👍

sullen dove
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altho second wind seems to not do anything

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so can prolly drop that instead

remote bobcat
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check what i wrote in ur twitch chat swordish

undone flower
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no but if it's only 1 sec gcd lock (choose slam or wrecking), i don't think you lose if you wreck

remote bobcat
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about tank positioning

sullen dove
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or no it did 6%

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ah thine is the ayccsv

remote bobcat
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indeed is me

hoary fox
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Swordish noob

chilly fractal
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How many pulls did Gally take ya’ll that killed it this week?

hoary fox
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Hello close enougher

winter shoal
remote bobcat
dense elbow
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Ewww slam

chilly fractal
dense elbow
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Just ww like a sane person, or better yet, use OF

winter shoal
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But also you might as well press nothing

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I'm p sure it's like a 0.1% difference to literally just afk for a global instead

dense elbow
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Who doesn't being imp ww for m+, smh

winter shoal
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Who presses ww in M+ keks

dense elbow
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I do gladge

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A lot

wraith wharf
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thunderclap is also getting a buff

winter shoal
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Slayer god x over here

dense elbow
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Yep, big gains for Thane, Cranky erga

winter shoal
chilly fractal
winter shoal
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That's crazy work

remote bobcat
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i actually saw someone click ww 4x in a row on rik reverb mythic

wraith wharf
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theres 2 things wrong there

chilly fractal
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I’m not gonna make useless macros

wraith wharf
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one they hit WW 4 times in a row, second is they clicked

winter shoal
chilly fractal
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It’s still 1 button

remote bobcat
chilly fractal
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I swap my talent loadout and the ability changes

wraith wharf
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i mean once you get the hotbar set up and the spec saved, it doesn't really need a macro since it should auto switch to the hotbar with each skill on it

dense elbow
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Ya ppl saying pressing ww is bad... As if ya ain't spamming that button all the time while idling

chilly fractal
remote bobcat
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thats the real shit

wraith wharf
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i just find it funny they have to buff WW's damage by more than double

chilly fractal
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That goes hard AF

remote bobcat
dense elbow
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I am trying so hard to justify it, I will put that on a back burner for later

undone flower
winter shoal
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even on 1 target

snow flower
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I just recrafted my stuff for Arms in M+, which must be why they're buffing my beloved Thanefury D:

coral fiber
undone flower
winter shoal
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HUH

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do you not cleave the adds on mythic?

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I haven't done M Mugzee

edgy widget
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it's not really worth as Fury

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just hit them with a bladestorm

coral fiber
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Bs roar

fickle cedar
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yeah you go full st like in hc

undone flower
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i did a single ww

remote bobcat
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yo archi do you think loboz build will outperform current m+ slayer build yall have recommended?

edgy widget
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you can they just don't stay up long enough

remote bobcat
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o

undone flower
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i don't even bs adds

fickle cedar
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its the cursed build

winter shoal
coral fiber
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M+ Thane is cooler

edgy widget
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if you're asking "will Odyn's Fury be worth using next week" the answer is yeah maybe, but not by a big margin

remote bobcat
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loboz build is where you go full BT and execute nodes

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and no rb nodes

fickle cedar
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its kinda fucked how much good talent nodes we lose for odyn tho

edgy widget
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no, that's pretty cursed

sullen dove
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all 2 execute nodes

smoky vale
remote bobcat
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yea but loboz is doing surprisingly well i cannot lie

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player gap maybe

smoky vale
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loboz gaps most of skyhold anywyas

remote bobcat
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its the german efficiency

undone flower
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loboz build comes with loboz stats

edgy widget
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causation =! causality

remote bobcat
undone flower
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man he loves haste

remote bobcat
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thats a lot of secondary stats

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does that include the flask or smth

jolly parrot
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I raided with loboz

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And bros been schizoing hard since islands stopped being a thing

fickle cedar
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he's holding that bt permanently praying for those reap procs

remote bobcat
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we always knew that

remote bobcat
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BT spam and Execute in between

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RB as filler

fickle cedar
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what a gambler we love it

chilly fractal
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So much crit

undone flower
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yes he didn't craft his current ring on the 15

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and he plays with the boe neck ofc

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since he is in top guild world

red berry
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this is a 10 cinderbrew with a godawful tank. didn't time.

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loboz build

remote bobcat
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loboz

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amen

red berry
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it goes without saying that it will be better next week

fickle cedar
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i do like 3m with my 650 arcane what is that wtf

red berry
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but that gap between roar and odyns

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it was a godawful run tbf i would've done a lot more if it was a time

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since, you know

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it is per second

dense elbow
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Oh, ppl notice that is should have been buffed 125%?

undone flower
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what is the loboz opener ?

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you just charge and roar ?

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then cd+ OF ?

dense elbow
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Roar, OF, BT spin, BT
Pray for reaps

undone flower
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i will try a key with new TT+OF next week

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  • Loboz
dense elbow
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Why bring new TT, then you don't have avatar for every BS peepostudy

undone flower
#

i don't hold for bs

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i just send no cd bs

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(yes if it's like few sec apart)

dense elbow
#

Why would you want to amp BS after all, kinda does low dam danderson

hidden storm
#

Bloodmallet shows this graph for trinkets for Fury. Sim says Reverb beats Lock 'n Stock by a fair bit. Any thoughts?

dense elbow
#

Sim your own character

hidden storm
#

I did

wicked beacon
#

Meh dragonflight fury was so fun

dense elbow
#

I actually enjoy TWW Fury, tuning just ain't there

wicked beacon
#

Almost any expansion fury was better than this shit

#

I don't

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Its just not fun

dense elbow
#

What do you dislike in particular?

stiff summit
#

We just need to be uncap on Aoe to be on par with other classes T_T

wicked beacon
#

Powerful Enrage

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Targetcaps

dense elbow
#

Then don't use it? Target caps always been there

wicked beacon
#

Not this bad

dense elbow
#

Cause tuning

wicked beacon
#

Cause softcapping 5 targets

#

Also no odyn's

#

Cuz its just super bad

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Double odyn's burst was fun

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But nooo you do too much damage on stupid raid

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On one boss

undone flower
uneven path
winter shoal
wicked beacon
#

@uneven path i said fury was more fun before than now

#

Fury this season is just sad

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I like that AM is back don't get me wrong, but... I just find it so lacking

uneven path
undone flower
wicked beacon
#

@uneven path i don't think it's ever been worse, that's what i meant

uneven path
#

Oh

wicked beacon
#

Its always been more competitive than it is now

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Now it is at like bottom 3 specs in the game lol

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For M+

uneven path
#

Well, I play fury circa since legion, and this is first time I cancelled my sub.

uneven path
dense elbow
#

With the buffs, we basically just 5% gap, instead of 10%

That will help a lot. We also do good ST on top of this.

So it ain't all bad, doom and gloom. 1 more set of buffs like this, and we in a good spot

wicked beacon
#

Now fury does not feel bad to play, but the damage is so bad

#

That "good" ST is no longer nothing special at all which is a problem

#

I wish we even had that, but nope. We don't.

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Not in M+ with the M+ build

uneven path
dense elbow
#

While I agree it ain't carrying anything, it is still strong. I usually lead ST by 200-500k

storm birch
#

With the 5% buff we’re def locked in as the arcane mage of melee. peepostudy

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High prio dmg and boss dmg. Not the best high aoe

wicked beacon
#

Dream on

uneven path
wicked beacon
#

Rogue will be better

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With funnel

storm birch
#

Well that’s why you run with a rogue lol

dense elbow
#

Rogue will do more DPS, but we are sadly balanced around battle shout potential

#

Add it, and with this buff, we are a net gain

wicked beacon
#

Fury definetally is not xD

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Arms is

uneven path
#

Battleshout keksquad

undone flower
marble schooner
#

how can I track if theres any adds remaining for Multitudes?:

storm birch
#

I actually have found pretty good purpose in keys. Nuking problem mobs and having top dog boss dmg is a good role to play. Doesn’t feel great to see the overall charts but it times keys

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Especially with the phys comp. It feels pretty good

wicked beacon
#

And may i ask what keylevels are you playing?

dense elbow
#

16s sadge

storm birch
#

1 from resil 16’s @wicked beacon

marble schooner
wicked beacon
#

Damn lucky you that you've managed to get into parties

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Cuz i don't

storm birch
#

Ran my own keys. Then as I got higher I sniped out mistweavers queueing their keys. They take me a lot

wicked beacon
#

Nobody invites me ever and playing my own key no matter what, every applicant i wonder how they even manage to breathe oxygen

storm birch
#

Additional of resilience made people more apt to try physical comp I think. Been kinda nice actually

marble schooner
#

aight we are on scheduled M+ non-meta crying ill ask my visions thingy later

dense elbow
#

Just focus on what we do, not what we dont. Then it ain't all bad. We are only one more round of buffs away from balanced

winter shoal
wicked beacon
#

Thing is... Arms does it better

winter shoal
#

prio?

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Aint no way

wicked beacon
#

It isn't far off

storm birch
#

True but I think in lower keys you can just become the pinnacle of good interrupts, stuns, and prio add focus and just force your team to
Time

#

Nahhhh fury prio damage is nutty not kidding

remote bobcat
#

mind blown

wicked beacon
#

Fury prio damage is not bad by any means

#

Just... Arms isn't that far behind and yet does much better overall

winter shoal
#

fury prio is like top 3 in the game unc

wicked beacon
#

Arms is just so godawful to play

fading sky
winter shoal
#

arms is quite mid prio

dense elbow
#

Our prio dam is not 'nutty', it is solid. We are far from Arcane or Elemental levels of funnel prio dam.
Our ST is fine

winter shoal
#

Arms still better in most cases, I agree with you there

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But lets not act like anyone is taking an arms warrior for their prio dam

storm birch
wicked beacon
#

Let's not act like anyone is taking a warrior for their damage at all

winter shoal
#

real

storm birch
#

Like i said, we’re the arcane of melee 😄

winter shoal
dense elbow
remote bobcat
modest condor
#

we are nowhere close to being the arcane of melee

remote bobcat
#

disgusting

storm birch
#

I ran with a (granted not a 3800 mage or anything) arcane friend in a 16 floodgate and I kid you not we had the same dmg profile on each pack and boss the entire dungeon

modest condor
#

they burst like 15 million dps on their prio target

opal summit
#

I swear to god nobody knows the difference between prio and funnel lmao

storm birch
#

Well I didn’t say we do same dmg as arcane I’m saying we do the same like damage profile

sullen dove
#

cuz funnel like barely exists

storm birch
#

Prio target dmg and boss dmg

wicked beacon
#

Anyway time to go cry myself to sleep

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Good night

modest condor
fading sky
#

We are the drunk cusin of arcane mage

storm birch
#

And made a comparison to a lower skill arcane mage I know

sullen dove
#

yea by barely i mean like 1-2 specs in the game

modest condor
#

oh like that

opal summit
#

We don’t do the same dmg profile as arcane

fading sky
#

Frank the tank

undone flower
opal summit
#

Arcane is funnel, we aren’t

dense elbow
#

Meh, just start to go Slayer in keys. Embrace minmax prio dam

storm birch
#

I don’t know what the fury numbers are for that boss on that type of key sadly

undone flower
storm birch
#

I’d have to look at the noxiv logs I think

remote bobcat
opal summit
#

Funnel is the most fun dmg profile imo

modest condor
remote bobcat
#

YOOOOOOOO

#

I GOT IN

storm birch
#

Pumpinnnn

opal summit
storm birch
#

Sounds about right. I was thinking 2.2 or 2.3

storm birch
# opal summit not even close to arcane 😭

Yea I get that. I mean all the numbers show arcane has more raw output than us by far. I’m moreso saying that we do the same type of thing. Nuke prio adds and bosses. Not saying at their same level, just in a similar way

sullen dove
#

calling us nuke is a strong word

undone flower
sullen dove
#

but the point is arcane does "more" damage to the prio target by the existance of other targets around it

remote bobcat
sullen dove
#

and we do the same amount regardless of whats around

fading sky
#

This

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Collosus has more funnel

remote bobcat
#

yo lads are you guys planning on playing legion remix?

fading sky
#

Than thane

sullen dove
#

it it gives me legion mounts i dont have o yea

dense elbow
#

Good thing it is m+, as such things are around keks

storm birch
#

Hmm 19 cinderbrew. Benk boss dmg. I'll reiterate my statement

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closer than i though

dense elbow
#

Also remember to add 5% od hunter, druid and rogue to that dam okayge

#

Warrior is ok ST value in the comp

storm birch
#

Yea actually

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I'll just full on say we're just the arcane mage of melee

remote bobcat
#

no

undone flower
#

nop

storm birch
#

no dancing around it just a flat statement

remote bobcat
#

stop

#

disgusting

storm birch
#

🤷

undone flower
#

dh dps is arcane mage of melee

dense elbow
#

If we had funnel, I would agree. But we dont

undone flower
#

dps dh is funnel

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not us

storm birch
#

Is funnel nuking 1 single mob?

modest condor
#

no funnel is doing more dps to a single target if there are adds around

storm birch
#

ah i see

dense elbow
#

Funnel is nuking a single mob indirectly

storm birch
#

sorry i've never played arcane so i just go off what i see on meters in my runs that's all

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don't know much about it haha

modest condor
#

like say there's just 1 mob you do 2mil dps to it, but if there are 5 adds around you do 2.5mil dps to that single mob

storm birch
#

I just use it as a note to get invited 😢

#

ahh that's cool

heavy galleon
#

The buff is cheap no ?

fading sky
#

5% is 5%

undone flower
#

u are cheap

modest condor
#

a good example would be shaman where having more targets to flame shock means more lava burst procs

storm birch
#

yea that makes sense

spring jacinth
#

is odyns fury usable on the 27th? anyone did maths?

undone flower
#

i take the buffs, and i'll play OF next week with a big smile

inland flame
storm birch
#

It's just the easiest way to explain our worth in keys I feel. Since being at the bottom isn't the most encouraging thing as far as people picking you up in a pug lmaooo

#

but nah i get y'alls point

fading sky
#

Write support with ap

dense elbow
formal glacier
#

fury buff?

remote bobcat
#

yo lads quick question how was MOP arms/fury?

undone flower
#

fury buff.

remote bobcat
inland flame
#

Updates channel said it's a 1.5% ST loss but a 1-1.5% multi gain

#

Might be okay in dungos again

undone flower
#

i'm gonna play MoP but so few friends are hyped

storm birch
#

5% buff on the m+ build feels pretty good tbh !

lavish crypt
#

did somebody say fury buffs ? gladge

dense elbow
#

Slayer got the short end of the stick tho, Thane got a bigger lead sadge

#

Hope they fix that

lavish crypt
fading sky
#

More reap dmg!!

dense elbow
#

Plz no

storm birch
#

well the last buffs felt like hardly anything cause they were bringing the lower hero talent build up to par. It feels nice that this one will actually hit the primary build and feel like a full on buff to the legit fury dmg

dense elbow
#

Stupid RNG piece of shit reap

fading sky
#

Incidental buff to arms

inland flame
#

Slayer just got buffed 2 seconds ago lol

storm birch
#

(although last buff did buff raid a bit)

#

raid isn't where we struggle though so I couldn't care less about buffs there

junior gale
dense elbow
lavish crypt
inland flame
#

Sure, but each spec is filling a different niche rn and might not need the same amount of buffs

dense elbow
junior gale
#

make unhinge cleave again

timber hare
#

So we can work odyns into thane build again? 👀

undone flower
#

That’s why TT funky copium

dense elbow
#

Same as it was okayge

inland flame
#

OF might be more worth it in lower keys where the burst dam matters more for your overall ig idk

lavish crypt
#

why blade no spin and go vroom sadge

dense elbow
#

Also better for visions and world quests

undone flower
#

I was thane for visions

unreal onyx
#

I just went slayer aoe from raid

undone flower
#

i just launched one with sword and shield lmao

marble schooner
#

yah you dont need to 3-mask for this

pale pelican
#

Did you kill all mobs or just elites?

cloud talon
#

so with this buff coming hows fury going to look

quaint stag
#

Still target capped so mild aoe buff doesn’t change anything for any dungeon not ToP

sudden tusk
cloud talon
#

so fury still sucks and we cant play it

storm birch
#

Playable if you try to focus on getting a physical damage comp

#

The 5% buff will make them a tad more competitive on the meters. Wont overtake MM or outlaw but it’ll do good

storm birch
sudden tusk
#

warrior is fine the real issue is A the community and B target capping

median marsh
#

in horrific visions i want to track location of mail boxes and trash piles, each one of them can drop a mount, and there are at fixed location in each zone, i dont want to memorize 10 points for each run, is there any addon i can upload those coordinates and it will show on map?

marble schooner
storm birch
#

Yea. Community sees the meters and runs from fury sadly

marble schooner
sudden tusk
#

honestly the best thing that needs to be done. is details needs to do after dungeon calculations to show true damage

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with raid buffs accounted for

#

warrior wouldnt look nearly as weak if that was in the game

storm birch
#

Or show the meters for the big mobs and get rid of it for things like citizens the little goops in workshop and other worthless pad adds

marble schooner
#

make a separate overall called "Overall Damage on Notable enemies" and just take into account bosses, big elites, special casters and the 5 mobs I hit with WW cleave

silk wharf
#

I think this season is especially full of pad mobs in dungeons.

remote bobcat
undone flower
#

a.k.a damage done on exploding barrels on rik clueless

low folio
#

It’s time to spam ww guys obviously

marble schooner
#

imagine rashanan with that lmao

#

nobody hitting adds

undone flower
#

Tbf people would still hit them bc it changed 2-3 times

#

ST rasha into AoE rasha into st again

marble schooner
#

true yeah

undone flower
#

Guild mates paid me to be ST build on that boss keks

pure wyvern
#

any idea if fury is going to be competing with arms with the upcoming buffs in M+ or they not big enough ?

undone flower
#

And after he just started a phrase for ovinax and i just said NO SHOT even for 100k

pure wyvern
fiery edge
low folio
#

I feel like arms was more than 5% ahead but
I could be wrong

lofty delta
#

Our problem is still target cap right?

#

All the aloe buffs in the world won't make up for that?

earnest canyon
eternal sundial
#

Just a numbers game

earnest canyon
#

unless you gimp everything and go 2 target cleave

wraith wharf
#

so with the buff to whirlwind coming, does that mean we will use whirlwind instead of slam in single target filler again?

undone flower
#

Yes but saying it’s hard capped is a big word

hardy crescent
#

HI Guys, regarding the vision head enchant. for m+ mainly, really the void ritual? Twilight devastation feels more "fun" no?

earnest canyon
eternal sundial
#

Isnt explo softcapped

#

And u shit a lot of those rn

undone flower
#

Is explosive shot, multi shot, their hero things hard capped ?

eternal sundial
#

Trick shits is what makes multi aoe no

#

So Yesnt

undone flower
#

And if it’s something is hard 8 you can tell me bc I don’t play mm anymore

silk wharf
#

Just need a talent to give ww a cooldown like arms used to have so we can have our filler do as much damage as multi shot.

undone flower
#

Don’t compare too much ww with multi shots tho

earnest canyon
undone flower
#

Bc it’s 1 ability for multi shot

eternal sundial
#

But is amped by aimed shot thing

silk wharf
#

yes, it isn't a 1:1 comparison but ww doesn't have a cost so it can't have its damage buffed too much.

undone flower
#

I wish my tertiary spells were half my damage in cinderbrew

earnest canyon
#

my point anyway is that its a tuning issue: Fury can still do the same sorta damage from main abilities, and hey, at least it can 2 man cleave

#

but jon blizzard says no

silk wharf
#

Personally I would make the current second imp ww talent the base talent and make the second node into an entirely passive cleave everything all the time. So if you wanted the current game play you could have it and be up a talent point. If you wanted to cleave everything you grab the new talent.

#

(probably with some sort of generic damage nerf to the cleaved things)

earnest canyon
heavy galleon
#

I guess we need a good AoE spender rage like divine storm as ret

#

I loved something like odyn's fury as a rage spender so have have the choice to use rampage or OF for big AoE

finite path
#

With the buffs what’s the new best build for m+

smoky vale
#

dunno

fiery edge
#

what buffs?

smoky vale
#

wait to see

next jacinth
#

Le sigh

vapid owl
#

How much Dps% upgrade will the buffs be in M+? My math says like 2-3% overall, but im not a theorycrafter. Did anyone do the math?

icy topaz
#

Read the post again slowly

next jacinth
#

You need to give time for the theorycrafters to do their thing lol. The post just came out.

silk wharf
#

So, is Odyns back to its pre-nerf status yet?

broken prairie
#

Fury eating good lately bedge

dapper goblet
#

ban gio

smoky vale
dapper goblet
#

what

drowsy heron
#

what would be the new talent build with OF?

smoky vale
#

worse unholy

hushed gust
#

I’ve been running with this build for a few weeks now. Got my 13’s done with it, and it’s very comparable to the standard build. No changes on the Mountain Thane or Class trees for this build.

#

Pretty sure someone smarter can take the new buffs and improve on this, though.

smoky vale
#

you could drop 2 haste points for mastery and point next to ww

wise solar
#

Unpopular opinion, but I think this buff is wrong...
They increase the DMG instead of increasing the AOE cap, which shouldn't change our DMG profile.
Also they should already delete Odyns Fury, its not a fun button in my opinion 😄
Change my mind

smoky vale
#

@dense elbow

hushed gust
wise solar
hushed gust
#

It’s still going to be flat and consistent. Just now, we have a slightly higher peak every 45 seconds.

#

At least it isn’t as useless as the whirlwind buff.

gleaming siren
#

Yea

#

What up

smoky vale
gleaming siren
#

I was big concerned Loboz was gonna blast

#

More than me

#

Ngl

smoky vale
#

did you personally lose to him

gleaming siren
#

Don't think so

undone flower
#

You can’t blast less the Loboz on Gally, that’s the trick, he leaves all the fun to his guild

gleaming siren
#

Oh I wasn't talking about Gally

#

More the bosses he wasn't forced to perish

undone flower
#

Oh yeah, he does blast on those ones

#

Vexie and cauldron with his new gear

gleaming siren
#

He is a chad

warm crag
#

Cant believe nsky bought a boost from loboz

undone flower
#

Damn he has the juiciest gear ngl

#

He is shaking for the next dinar

gleaming siren
#

Loboz Spieloplatt

#

I got Capital Punisher yesterday very pog, can just buy BiS and Kezan now and be done

undone flower
#

KARTENHAUS JA

fiery edge
#

loboz with that Slayer Revolution

gleaming siren
#

The Loboz revolution is no HnS

#

Just

#

Almost no RB talents at all

undone flower
#

I just realized he plays the Loboz build on cauldron

fiery edge
#

he's all about that first big load gladge

gleaming siren
#

Wait

undone flower
#

Damn that’s a huge D on a ST boss

drowsy heron
#

ew, slow fury 🤮

fiery edge
#

powerful rage bedge

modern ingot
#

KAPITALBESCHLAGNAHMER!

fiery edge
#

Panzerkampfwagen VI Tiger Ausf.E (Sd.Kfz.181) Tiger I

undone flower
#

He lost his vers flask and used one mid fight

earnest turtle
#

What an odd set of buffs.

drowsy heron
#

so wait, if he has no RB talents does he just not hit RB at all?

undone flower
#

(Yes he died but at 6 min)

gleaming siren
#

Is that what I'm seeing

#

Oh god

fiery edge
fast mural
#

Least scuffed fury gameplay

teal coral
#

hoping for fury to be somewhat good from now on. i just get sad messing up constantly playing arms with the severe punishment you get from it

undone flower
#

If you wanted the goat opener btw

#

For the main rotation, he just press BT on cd and rb as filler and ww as filler of the filler

earnest canyon
thorny vigil
undone flower
#

It is someone log we are looking

slim coral
#

What is this bro

undone flower
#

Atypical warrior

smoky vale
#

he had to die

slim coral
#

did loboz buy these

#

seems likely

undone flower
slim coral
#

?

#

this man def bought these

undone flower
#

OFC HE BOUGHt THeSE

slim coral
#

that's crazy

undone flower
#

Northern sky

#

Tbf not that crazy to buy the raid boost imo

slim coral
#

I mean we do full 8/8 sales so I get but some of the buyers are hilarious

thorny vigil
#

with patch coming are we going to play OF again ?

summer quail
#

it's a maybe

slim coral
#

I'd say on rik and sprocket possibly

#

maybe even gally

#

depends on how good your guild is at padding

summer quail
slim coral
#

yeah I meant stix