fury

[young swan]

wahoo

[smoky vale]

surely we kill mugzee in 2 weeks

[summer quail]

that's not an aug buff. thankfully

[noble frost]

Checking a little priority in st things
Em
If after a Bladestorm
Honestly is it very important to use CB 5 times before a rampage?
The more i look at my logs vs another player i seem to use alot more cb then rampage due to this particular thing

[smoky vale]

its just until you have no more raging blows

or five

whichever happens first

[vague sierra]

Almost confirms we don't have a dev

"just raise their aoe ability a little, what was it again?"

[noble frost]

Are the other prior still in effect during this time?
I know ashen 100% is what about BT?

[whole yacht]

lol

[mild ravine]

does the arms whirlwind buff pass over to cleave?

[summer quail]

no

[wicked beacon]

Of course it doesn't

It is literally just for raid

[mild ravine]

so fuck it

[smoky vale]

what do you mean

[noble frost]

Like send by on 85% crit and etc

[smoky vale]

well yeah

[meager gyro]

THUNDERBLAST FTW

[noble frost]

Cause alot of times after the 5 rb and bt and execute
I sometimes run out of good buttons to press

LUL

[wicked beacon]

Yeah that's gonna increase our overall by how much?

[summer quail]

idk but my rik reverb thane cope is back

[wicked beacon]

I feel like fury is still going to suck hard in M+

[summer quail]

i love thane on rik reverb so much. it is back!

[wicked beacon]

But at least they buffed the correct abilities a bit...

[regal grotto]

wait what talents do we drop for OF to even run it

[meager gyro]

starting gearing my sub rogue yesterday too, it's so good after this buff

[sullen tendon]

I DONT UNDERSTANNNNNDDDDD

[mild ravine]

cap is still there

[edgy widget]

#updates-midnight understand now?

[sullen tendon]

why the fuck do they keep buffing whirlwind

[edgy widget]

because Slayer uses Whirlwind

[sullen tendon]

buff meat cleaver

[edgy widget]

they already gave Slayer a huge AoE buff like 3 weeks ago, they're just buffing WW to keep up

[sullen tendon]

and no one used it anyways

[wise leaf]

5>8 targets

[noble frost]

Whirlwind a better button than slam even in st now (0)_(0)

[olive wraith]

What the ww

[edgy widget]

tha'ts not entirely true, Slayer is the go-to spec in raid, and it's way better in M+ now

[sinful spoke]

odyns fury still ded right

[edgy widget]

probably, but I'll evaluate it later, right now I'm watching Robin Hood

[wicked beacon]

Slayer is way better in M+ now than what it used to be, but still badly behind

[smoky vale]

no please dorp everything you are doing to attend to our needs

NOW

!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[edgy widget]

no

[sullen tendon]

youre right. it is go to in raid but no one is going to use slayer in m+ like they didnt even when it was buffed a few weeks ago

[smoky vale]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[arctic portal]

kevin costner?

[summer quail]

i wonder how bad thane on gally will be. i might play it when we get there

i fkn love thane

[sinful spoke]

archi ignore gio hes stupid

[edgy widget]

yeah you're right, why would they ever buff the underperformer 🙄

what POSSIBLE sense could that make

[meager gyro]

you have to reply with which version sometime later today 🤘

[smoky vale]

HE DID IN THE POST

?????????????????

[sullen tendon]

im saying even though they buffed the underperformer people still played mountain thane

[smoky vale]

HE SAID FOR THANE

[edgy widget]

and now they're buffing it AGAIN

quit crying and enjoy your buffs, god damn lol

[velvet obsidian]

Is that an OF buff? In this day and age?

[royal copper]

Is this new?!

[sinful spoke]

no

its from last expac

[sullen tendon]

I will never stop complaining until thye actually fix warrior

[young swan]

didnt think there was anyone more jaded than me

[edgy widget]

I swear some people are just determined to be mad about everything lmao

[young swan]

pretty impressive

[smoky vale]

YES

[sullen tendon]

standardize aoe

[edgy widget]

kindly quit talking until then too, kthx

[wicked beacon]

I'm very happy about the fury buffs

[velvet obsidian]

'Fury' warrior. Archi it's in the name

[summer quail]

hey archi how much copium am i on for thinking of playing thane on gally with these buffs?

[smoky vale]

xan vhys was asking about 5 warrior keys

[regal grotto]

Genuine question here, what do we drop to run OF?

[smoky vale]

soon surely

[sinful spoke]

stop

[edgy widget]

Ehhhh

[celest sierra]

Bro I’m so mad right now . Now a single buff to Heroic Throw 🤦‍♂️

[sinful spoke]

not enough aoe for that

dont do it

[edgy widget]

Adds die increasingly quick on Gally, so I wouldn't recommend it

[chilly fractal]

Burst Slayer AoE for adds

yea

[young swan]

ping me the week before 11.2

[inner zinc]

minor buffs but ill take it. I dont think OF will see any use even with that buff. If they reincreased the soft cap to 8 maybe i guess?

[summer quail]

maybe i can convince guildies to let me pad

[primal plover]

i just want slayer back everywhere i never enjoyed thane that much

but ill take buffs buffs are cool!

[young swan]

good mentality

[vague sierra]

after enough time, I'm a certified thane enjoyer. Fuck slayer stacks

[weak grail]

is there a chance we can use OF build? or how far behind it is?

[summer quail]

buffs are cool indeed

[sullen dove]

thunder blast only meaningful buff

we take those tho

[rich flame]

are these odyn fury buffs gonna make it worth taking though

[sullen dove]

[celest sierra]

Until they buff Heroic throw I will never be satisfied

[vague sierra]

I'd pad adds on thane on every boss if I could

[celest sierra]

No

[sudden tusk]

@dense elbow

odyns

[chilly fractal]

you'd need to get 2 points into Critical Thinking and then OF + Dancing Blades/Titanic Rage

[smoky vale]

@left perch

[summer quail]

tbf you technically do not need the capstones for odyns. titanic rage is very nice qol tho

[inner zinc]

TR obviously. DB is pretty awful

[young swan]

u definitely just dont take a capstone

[thorny peak]

hot damn who decided to buff us again

[inner zinc]

even TR is pretty mid now without titans torment

[smoky vale]

or titanic rage

[chilly fractal]

ah yea fair point

[edgy widget]

It’s a lot better in M+ right now than people are giving credit

[celest sierra]

It’s good for sure just doesn’t compete with thane rn

[balmy shore]

I DIDN'T EVEN LOOK AT THE LINK

ASSUMED WE DIDN'T GET TOUCHED

[smoky vale]

W BUFFED

[edgy widget]

I mean it kinda does, a lot more so than you’d think

[balmy shore]

bc we never get looked at

WHOAAAA

[smoky vale]

W BUFF

W BUFF

[celest sierra]

Really now , I might have to check it out again then

[regal grotto]

Been runing Slayer for keys since the change tbh, doing fine been running 12s with it no issue

[elfin belfry]

Next patch for sure. We'll have our day

[undone flower]

you know you win 2k dps by pressing slam

[royal copper]

Am about to cry in happiness

🥲

[soft merlin]

MFGA

[celest sierra]

😂😂 make Heroic throw Heroic again

[edgy widget]

Also I mean if you’re playing fury in m+, my guess is you’re not too concerned with competitiveness to begin with

[summer quail]

[regal grotto]

^

[fickle cedar]

oh shit

[edgy widget]

Unless you’re novix

[wicked beacon]

I'd love to play fury in M+

[fickle cedar]

is odyn back ?

[wicked beacon]

I really would, but it just is so bad

[inner zinc]

cold

[sullen dove]

120% ww damage gonna put it reaaal close to a 25% buffed thunder blast for sure

[celest sierra]

I mean I disagree I play fury and I’m like 3 keys away form all 16s

[undone flower]

where is funky when we need OF takes

[balmy shore]

think this is the least i've ever done m+ bc fury feels like ass

[primal plover]

thats good to hear

[edgy widget]

WW competes with TC, Blast is more analogous with Reap (which got buffed last time)

[regal grotto]

theres always exceptions to the rule

[chilly fractal]

if I turn off damage meters it doesn't feel bad

[craggy sleet]

shouldve buffed charge smh, damage feels lackluster atm

[chilly fractal]

I just imagine I'm the reason everything dies

[celest sierra]

Are u Heroic throwing on cd ? If so then yes ur the reason

[soft merlin]

blizzard like "let us buff you now late into season 2 means nothing so at the start of season 3 we can nerf you again when it means somthing"

[celest sierra]

I got a gut feeling next season Fury gunna be meta meta

Uber buffs

[sullen dove]

revert titans torment to be actually useable

[noble frost]

I want ww buff to hit up to 7 addtional targets

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[noble frost]

Make us good again

[wicked beacon]

When was fury actually meta? Legion?

[inner zinc]

[wicked beacon]

Cuz i can't remember...

[summer quail]

never. arms was meta in legion

[smoky vale]

revert to s3 df

[noble frost]

S3 df start of the season

[wicked beacon]

S3 DF was good

[noble frost]

Before we got nerfed into the ground

[summer quail]

not true. s2 start of season

df

[inner zinc]

now all they need is to bring back 8 target soft cap on OF

[celest sierra]

As someone who voted for S2 in DF then regretted it. I will say S3 DF Fury warrior was godly

[wicked beacon]

They needed to bring back 8 target softcap for everything for warrior

[noble frost]

REMOVE THUNDEROUS ROAR AOE CAP

[undone flower]

and old twilight devastation just for warriors

[inner zinc]

agreed

[chilly fractal]

Opening old wounds

[summer quail]

s3 was good in raid, not good in m+

[fickle cedar]

did anyone sim with odyn's fury ? i wanna press it again and not feel bad

[modest condor]

this cap is completely irrelevant btw

[noble frost]

THEY SKULL FUCKRD THE S2 SET

[modest condor]

it only affects the initial hit, not the dot

[noble frost]

Sorry

OH CAP AS IM NOT CAPSLOCK

[storm rune]

Boooooo

[noble frost]

LMAO

[summer quail]

it's not capped tho

[sterile dagger]

remove hard cap of ww buff, thats it, and no need to change other shit, we will be fine

[sullen dove]

roar is bootycheeks anyway

[modest condor]

i doubt it's enough

[sinful spoke]

i love how the buffed ww

[noble frost]

Ngl i didnt know it only affected the intial hit

[sinful spoke]

like itll make a difference

[modest condor]

i dont think blizzard does either

[noble frost]

But why did they add it then ×_×

[sullen dove]

powerful

[summer quail]

🤷‍♂️

[hoary fox]

STFU @sullen dove

[sullen dove]

[mild ravine]

so let's keep it under their radar.

[celest sierra]

TR feels like such and underwhelming button to press but alas we must press if

It *

[young swan]

never

literally never

[sinful spoke]

classic wow

vanilla

[wicked beacon]

@young swan that's what i was thinking

[sinful spoke]

literally

[young swan]

unless if u count a quarter of a patch

[sullen tendon]

no dude this is a slayer buff it will definitely make people want to invite fury now 👍

[young swan]

no point counting anything pre-m+

[celest sierra]

Not true , we were meta first week of Nerub’Ar Palace

[fickle cedar]

at least we'll be able to pull up druid tank damage on big packs now

[sudden tusk]

Class will never be balanced when ranged players get to stand 400 thousand yards away while doing 2x the aoe damage

[young swan]

genuinely what are you expecting from a random mid tier tuning post

like bffr

[young swan]

no we werent

fdk was better

[sullen tendon]

plans to change fury

[sullen dove]

what in m+

[summer quail]

you mean heroic week? like when m+ wasn't even out and we couldn't even go into mythic to really see our damage?

[young swan]

why would u expect that from a random mid tier tuning post

like use ur brain for 2 seconds

[sullen tendon]

something to look foward to other than the next tier set being "bloodthirst increases the damage of your next rampage by 15%"

[dawn locust]

am fury warrior what is brian

[sullen tendon]

ask paladins

[red berry]

i have been saying thunder blast and 8 targets for awhile now but

25% buff straightup isn't so bad i suppose

[whole yacht]

xan comin for throats rn

[empty grove]

make meat cleaver uncapped aoe

[inner zinc]

yeah T.blast really should have a soft cap of 8 and not 5

[sullen tendon]

do people think fury is fine?

[wicked beacon]

It probably is in raid

[sullen tendon]

ST its fine

[wicked beacon]

Which is why nobody cares

[young swan]

no but if ur expecting shit mid xpac, let alone mid tier

ur just braindead

[remote bobcat]

odyns +30% is crazy

why do i feel like it will still be shit

[young swan]

fury isnt so bad that it needs emergency mid xpac rework

[red berry]

because it is and will be

[junior gale]

someone ping the OF guy

[wicked beacon]

Of course it will still be shit

[sullen tendon]

dude thye reworked 2 rogue specs and paladins for a 4th time in the middle of last expac.

[junior gale]

hes gonna be so happy

[slim coral]

I expect shit every week

[remote bobcat]

@dense elbow

[slim coral]

non stop buffs until I'm op

[young swan]

okay

is something so horrifically broken for fury that it needs to be addressed immediately?

[red berry]

i think they should buff thunder blast 800% for the bit

wouldn't that be funny haha

[dawn locust]

full uncap aoe, give us 1000% increase to everything and reduce our CDs

[young swan]

cause it was for rogues

[remote bobcat]

? we dont have cds

[empty grove]

Yeah but the rouge and paladins literally had flaws in their entire design especially prot

[dawn locust]

u rite

[young swan]

paladin is just the poster child thats just the way it is

[sullen tendon]

lmaaooo

[remote bobcat]

obviously not but fury m+ players cope out of their mind that it is

[wicked beacon]

@young swan how about the targetcaps? Like having a 5-target hardcap on main abilities and then having like what, two or max three cooldowns that have an 8 target softcap?

[young swan]

5t cap sucks and is bad and should be addressed but its not getting fixed mid xpac cause its not fundamentally breaking the spec lmfao

[dawn locust]

not beating the red color in big aoe, rabble rabble uncap aoe

[empty grove]

Idk who needs to hear this but blizzard isnt watching this discord and listning to you doom your specs in hopes they buff it

[remote bobcat]

i love how arms warrior chat is just confused

as to why whirlwind got buffed

[young swan]

and its a large issue that needs a multifaceted approach beyond just "remove it"

[inner zinc]

you dont know that

[mild ravine]

and people commenting on the forums don't really seem to do any content other than rp

[young swan]

just chill out for 2 seconds

[empty grove]

Im just happy to be here man, im finally out of tank prision

[sullen tendon]

we bring literally nothing to the table other than ST damage. our group defensive sucks, no useful utility, no aoe damage

[empty grove]

back on the warrior

makes me so happy

[remote bobcat]

xantaga do u still play warr actively?

[young swan]

unfortunately

[upbeat plume]

so do we take odyns finally or still a dead button?

[remote bobcat]

mein goat

[young swan]

i avoid it

well i avoid playing in general

[lean heart]

fury is fine the buffs are good

[young swan]

cause i think this patch sucks

[whole yacht]

yeah he plays aqw instead

[junior gale]

raid log and vibe

[sullen dove]

what minecraft you grindin

[remote bobcat]

bro loboz build stonks are rising

[junior gale]

this is the way when your spec is bad

[remote bobcat]

kekW

[sullen dove]

r u questing

or just playin for fun

[empty grove]

tier sets are a bit shit

[inner zinc]

we arent #1 at everything I agree

[remote bobcat]

a bit much shit

[empty grove]

hopefully they dont do it again

[junior gale]

[dawn locust]

at least we know our buffs are a nothingburger, arms players having to decode why WW got buffed rn

[young swan]

epic, m+ isnt the only game mode available

[summer quail]

people thinking it might get removed mid expansion is an insane amount of cope. i don't even think it will get removed next expansion but maybe i'm too cynical

[wicked beacon]

And raiding isn't an option for everyone

[sullen tendon]

This is like being part of a class action lawsuit that irreversably damaged peoples life and you get $2 in the mail and then someone says "you should be thankful"

[junior gale]

well we know why we got em it just doesnt really do anything or mean anything

[young swan]

are u stupid

[robust widget]

?

[young swan]

we've had a 5t cap for actual real life decades

and its been fine

[remote bobcat]

raiding is an option for everyone - a dedicated raid schedule isn't

[young swan]

this is a recent issue

[mild ravine]

I mean, since BFA no?

[young swan]

since at least mop

[wicked beacon]

@remote bobcat pugging is a nightmare.

[summer quail]

atleast since legion. i did not play warrior before then so idk

[wicked beacon]

In raids especially

[whole yacht]

savage

[sullen tendon]

every other spec in the game is decent at both or excels at one and is decent at the other. fury is good at ST and terrible at mass aoe. There are 2 game modes in the game and eveyr spec other than fury can survive in both of them.

[remote bobcat]

i know some lads who are the pug joining 19/20 man guilds to prog with them whenever they have time

[dawn locust]

they should cap us at 3t, 5t is too much

[remote bobcat]

via recruiting discords

they hop from raid to raid

[mild ravine]

the hard cap,. it was a soft cap before, no? aM I losing my mind?

[young swan]

yeah and its only become an issue literally this season

stop crying

[summer quail]

you are losing your mind

[young swan]

wait for a new season with smaller pulls

[sullen tendon]

are you sinane lol

[mild ravine]

likely

[inner zinc]

[sullen tendon]

only this season

are you for real

[young swan]

yes

literally only this season

[sullen dove]

bobby must play all 25+ dps specs

[inner zinc]

i mean i dont even think a season with smaller pulls will benefit us >.>

[sullen dove]

if he's so sure literally all of them are insane at both raid and m+

cluegi

[wicked beacon]

I just want fury or arms to be meta for one season

Like just one

[young swan]

no but thats a tuning issue not a target cap issue

[summer quail]

i mean that is kinda true tho. only a big problem this expansion. fury was meta for a while in s2 df and we were hardcapped then

[sullen tendon]

did you read what I said? I said other specs are decent at both or good at one and decent at the other.

[wraith wharf]

whirlwind damage increasing by over double is crazy

[remote bobcat]

i mean the conversation came up multiple times beforehand, it just wasnt relevant enough back then tbf

[mild ravine]

at least we aren't shadow priests right now

[sullen dove]

we are good at raid and decent in m+

[inner zinc]

I want fury to be the god-kings forever

[empty grove]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jackson-comendo-picoca-gif-9669437860846841235

[dawn locust]

and its not even that bad, can comfortably do higher than 12 keys with the right groups, just do more ST and let the rogue/huntard blast

[sullen tendon]

straight up lie

[sullen dove]

lowest end of decent but its not like we're half the dps of every other spec in the game

[young swan]

yeah its real bad right now, it prob wont be real bad literally next season

[sullen dove]

maybe like 70-80% of them

[young swan]

yeah shocker that wow players blow shit out of proportion

[sullen dove]

"oh no fury isnt running level 20+ keys i cant play the spec in m+!!!"

[remote bobcat]

imho it also isnt that bad rn, i think people are overexaggerating

like yea fury is behind

but its genuinely not that bad

unless ur going for title

[sullen tendon]

"why do you care about the game you play wtf?!"

[wicked beacon]

The issue is also the fact that you won't get invited to anything as fury. So you have to play your own key

[mighty hull]

what io is noxiv lol

[junior gale]

depends on how they liked how this season went. I think they like us doing large pulls again. Well see what the 11.2 changes are like

[wicked beacon]

Class is simply not desired

[remote bobcat]

3.8k iirc

[fickle cedar]

yeah the problem is perception, doesnt matter how behind it is %wise

[mighty hull]

there you go

[wicked beacon]

Exactly, that

[red berry]

i would like to play fury in higher keys and to compete in bigger packs, so more AoE would be desirable

[sullen dove]

perception will always negatively affect half of the specs in the game at least

[young swan]

yeah but 11.2 will have its own ptr with class changes and new tiersets that might push us back in the direction of "uncapped" damage

[dawn locust]

its not really that bad. aoe burst popping off at 10+ mill and having 3 mill boss dmg for keys means you can easily do stuff with the right groups

[sullen dove]

if ur not top 3 or 4 dps

[remote bobcat]

(hes also criminally underperforming despite being on equal skill level)

[sullen dove]

you are a second class citizen

no one wants you

[mild ravine]

to be fair we do close to tank dmg in any large pull, and by we I mean noxiiv

[young swan]

nice strawman

[undone flower]

The perception is : you are not one of the 3 Meta dps specs

[red berry]

i am curious to see what the tier and stuff will be next season

[scenic cosmos]

theres furys timing 20 keys on live, yeah its with a very specific group comp and shit but it clearly means its possible. its just not possible for you

[sullen dove]

if tier next season doesnt make RA good then gg

mid am mickey mouse 2 tiers in a row

😭

[wicked beacon]

Lets be honest, what does fury bring to a key that an another class/spec doesn't?

[sullen tendon]

fury has had problems for years and blizzard has refused to address the main problem of the target cap as well as our ST bleeding into our AOE. You cannot buff our ST without affecting our AOE and vice versa.

[junior gale]

yeah theres plenty of paths they can go down well see when we get ptr

[wicked beacon]

Battle shout?

Oh wait monks do the same, kinda

[remote bobcat]

not rly

[sullen dove]

bshout is better than monk buff

[modest condor]

how about making a tierset that increases the damage of OF and gives it like a cdr mechanic or something

[remote bobcat]

battle shout is crazy cuz it affects tanks

[undone flower]

I wonder if we will ever play the replacement of TT

[remote bobcat]

tanks get way tankier due to ap shout

[sullen dove]

that sounds pretty good

[wicked beacon]

Yes, but monks bring other stuff that far surpasses anything a warrior does

[dawn locust]

brew, rsham, rogue, druid, fury. blast key

[sullen dove]

and significantly buffs our main single target damage

[remote bobcat]

the same target cap

clueless~1

[sullen dove]

to result in one of the best seasons the spec has ever had

[scenic cosmos]

bshout also helps classes like udk/ret which monk doesnt

[sullen dove]

surely we would vote for a tier set like that given the opportunity

[robust widget]

[wicked beacon]

@dawn locust you might aswell play arms in that...

And do better for the key lol

[undone flower]

What about a tier set casting OF when you use your cd

[remote bobcat]

copy paste slayer hero talent tree onto s3 tier set

change bs to of

✅

[sullen dove]

aw man if slayer gave of cdr thatd be so sick

[red berry]

🤯 🤯 🤯

i do miss that tierset.

[undone flower]

I want that kronzo, I wish slayer tree was about OF and not bs

[red berry]

why not both

[dawn locust]

nah arms is ass ill play fury better spec

[wicked beacon]

@dawn locust i admit fury is more fun to play, but the numbers are not there.

[remote bobcat]

imho Unrelenting Onslaught should affect BS and OF both at the same time

[dawn locust]

its there you just gotta perform

[remote bobcat]

thumb

[wicked beacon]

@dawn locust no, the numbers are not there.

[undone flower]

I killed mug btw this night, I’m second dps lel

[sullen tendon]

I still dont udnerstand waht blizzard is trying to accomplish with raging blow and bt. Both do the same thing on paper but one does more damage and one just procs stuff. so you either spend more time doing damamge or try to fish for a proc.

[dawn locust]

10-15+ mill aoe burst and 5-6mill sustained, 3mill sustained boss ST. its there

[opal monolith]

Is odyns fury likely back on the menu?

[remote bobcat]

yea thats exactly it

[young swan]

could be

[wicked beacon]

How the hell do you deal 3 mill sustained boss dps ST? I've never seen anyone do that. Not even Noxiv in M+

[remote bobcat]

thats exactly what they are trying to accomplish

[dawn locust]

gaming

bis gear

[wicked beacon]

No you just don't lol

[opal monolith]

What talent would likely be swapped for it

[sullen tendon]

ok but when you use your cooldowns you are going to just hit the one that does more damamge and when you dont have cooldowns you are also going ot hit the one that does more damage

[young swan]

no freaking clue

[sullen tendon]

gushing wounds damage is so lackluster now its not even worth trying to fish for it most of the time

[dawn locust]

youre right i do more like 3.5mill ST

[spare steppe]

is it safe to assume OF is still bad

[sullen dove]

lol

actual yapaholic

[wicked beacon]

@dawn locust yeah in raid as slayer maybe, but in M+ you don't

[undone flower]

@dense elbow

[remote bobcat]

It entirely depends on the fight and keylevel. I can definitely do 3.5mil dps on rookery first boss if its only a +10, i start with all cds and we bloodlust

clueless~1

[dawn locust]

☝️

[sullen dove]

tru boss dies in 20 seconds

[wicked beacon]

Why are you bringing in a +10, that's not even a key

[sullen dove]

huge dps

[remote bobcat]

thats the entire point of the emote

[sullen dove]

also having lust for first boss rookery

[wicked beacon]

Like +10 what?

[smoky vale]

thats still what the avg player is doing

[remote bobcat]

clueless~1

[dawn locust]

raid i do almost 4mill ST, i get that pocket PI

[remote bobcat]

whooosh

[smoky vale]

like you are so disconnected from the playerbase

[spare steppe]

i looked at the update channel and pins! I see nothin

im innocent

[wicked beacon]

I just want to be able to perform in a decent keylevel and be desired

And by that i mean 15+

10's are a joke and should be like a heroic dungeon

Or something

[noble elm]

so do these buffs actually matter or will fury still cry in m+ due to target caps

[remote bobcat]

dont actually matter

[dawn locust]

they are still cry

[wicked beacon]

Of course they matter

[undone flower]

At least ww buff increase my dps since I don’t have slam binded

[remote bobcat]

they do but like

[sullen dove]

yea no one is ever desired unless they're like 300 io above the key level or are one of 3-4 best dps specs

[remote bobcat]

they wont change the meta

[sullen dove]

but like furys fine enuff in a 15 sure

[noble elm]

standard internet experience tbh

[wicked beacon]

In a 15 yeah, but good luck spending 4 hours in the queue or playing your own key

[smoky vale]

hi when key

[modest condor]

im doing 17s and im really noticing the fact that fury cant do aoe damage

[wicked beacon]

^

[modest condor]

try to do the same pull other teams do and we just dont have enough damage to kill the casters before we run out of stops

[sullen tendon]

if you are pugging keys at all you are fucked

[noble elm]

sure it can, if you pull 5 mobs at a time every 2 minutes

[remote bobcat]

real

[dawn locust]

skill issue fury has no CDs just blast and if your group dies flame the rogue/druid to do more

[wicked beacon]

This is the big problem. If you aren't playing a very specific comp, you'll be a liability

[noble elm]

I mean relatively speaking if you are truly pushing keys you are a liability because you are playing fury

[wicked beacon]

Which you shouldn't be

[dawn locust]

fotm players are a bigger liability than ppl who stick to the shit specs imo

[noble elm]

agree

[modest condor]

not when it's uhdk vs fury in the current meta

[wicked beacon]

@dawn locust sure, but they'll get invited, unlike a furywarrior.

[undone flower]

Mana the first issue you have : you queue as dps

[empty grove]

UHDK is beyond brain dead easy and beyond boring

[dawn locust]

nah you dont bring that garbage grab a druid/rogue/rsham/brew and pump

[wicked beacon]

@undone flower that's what you sometimes have to do.

[opal monolith]

Bandaid buff but still decent , what you thinking?

[dawn locust]

pug your own key

[wicked beacon]

@dawn locust you can't just "grab" one in a 15+, you have to wait for hours to find them

Because they aren't there

[modest condor]

im thinking that once they fix the seismic reverb bug we're back to where we started

[noble elm]

this is cope advice

[red berry]

wait what's the seismic reverb bug

[dawn locust]

make friends with people you run keys with. ez

[flat river]

@dense elbow THE ODYNS BUFFS

[opal monolith]

Enlighten me

[flat river]

WE ARE SO BACK

[modest condor]

it does... let's say... a little bit too much damage for thane

[noble elm]

everyone says "pug your own key" and sure thats great, pug your own key

[undone flower]

I tagged him already

[noble elm]

but that doesnt discount the experience

[modest condor]

you know how it says 30% damage?

[thick fossil]

That's better than nothing, but man these buffs just have me scratching my head.

[flat river]

so?

[dawn locust]

far from cope, you run own key, meet other good ppl that match ur comp, make friend, run more keys and blast for high IO, ez

[opal monolith]

Hmm

[modest condor]

yeah now imagine they accidentally made it do "30% less" damage

[opal monolith]

[noble elm]

no one is inviting a fury warrior for high IO blasting

[undone flower]

Just to say I’m happy for him too

[modest condor]

clap and blast seismic procs do 70% damage

[noble elm]

sorry, they just aren't lol

[wicked beacon]

@noble elm exactly.

[red berry]

LMAO

okay

[wicked beacon]

@dawn locust may i ask how high keys are you running as a furywarrior?

[dawn locust]

doubt bc theres fury warriors doing high keys

[red berry]

so they're at the old value

[dawn locust]

15s, got 4 more for res

[red berry]

that has to be a talent oversight

[wicked beacon]

Yeah there's like 3 furywarriors doing high keys lol

[red berry]

like, it was 70% so

a long time ago

[modest condor]

it started with 11.1.5

[red berry]

that's interesting

and even with that bug, thane is still

[modest condor]

and it's only clap/blast afaik

[wicked beacon]

I've got all 15's done and two 16's of which i tanked priory, because well can't get invited as a dps

[red berry]

horrendously behind

[modest condor]

i didnt check whirlwind but cleave is doing 30%

[red berry]

that 25% buff is actually more significant then

[wicked beacon]

And i've spent weeks now trying to do 16's, but i just won't be invited. Doing my own always fails too due to well... I'm stuck in elohell. It is annoying, but it is what it is.

[dawn locust]

pug your own key, make friends and run keys with them idk what to say ig im spoiled bc my guild loves to push and im in with the exact comp i said earlier with brew/rsham/rogue/druid when we push

[remote bobcat]

sil did you ever try loboz build in a high key?

[wicked beacon]

@dawn locust you are absolutely spoiled.

[modest condor]

blizzard knows about the seismic bug, i wouldnt be surprised if this is a compensation buff from fixing it

[noble elm]

"pug your own keys"

also im spoiled and have a guild who runs with me so I dont need to pug my own keys

wat

[red berry]

25% is

not really enough to compensate for that loss, honestly

[modest condor]

ive never played the loboz build in the first place

[remote bobcat]

me neither

[dawn locust]

they funneled me the best gear too bc im the only warrior in raid team, feels good, maybe this week we get 5/8M

[remote bobcat]

im thinking of trying it with the odyns buff

see if it can do funny burst

in +10s

full spam only BT and Exe

[thick fossil]

Still nothing on the target cap though.

[remote bobcat]

never press RB unless forced

[remote bobcat]

of course not

that wont change

[sullen tendon]

whats the point of execute

[remote bobcat]

in loboz build?

or wdym

[storm birch]

I'm hype for the TB buffs actually

[remote bobcat]

loboz build has all the execute nodes

[sullen tendon]

you literally never use execute in MT

[thick fossil]

Arms Whirlwind buff is also confusing. That's not a spell we even have on our bars 90% of the time.

[remote bobcat]

loboz is slayer

not mt

[red berry]

the 120% buff to whirlwind is pretty goofy

[cosmic sundial]

I think he means multitarget

[remote bobcat]

yea they are idiots for that

[red berry]

it isn't pressed much so it doesn't amount to anything

[cosmic sundial]

Not mountain thane

[red berry]

but

it does help slayer

ever so much

[remote bobcat]

i doubt it

also

loboz build does press execute

in aoe

whenever bt is on cd

[cosmic sundial]

Is loboz the one where you don’t run BS?

[remote bobcat]

?

no

gimme one sec i will show u

[sullen tendon]

I looked at a previous key i did as slayer and whirlwind did 3% of my damage. 120% buff would push it slightly past dragon roar which did 4%.

[undone flower]

It’s an OF build

[remote bobcat]

this is loboz

[red berry]

yeah its not a terrible buff for slayer

[remote bobcat]

build

the screenshot is courtesy of some russian guy

idk

the guy who has demolish as his pfp

[wicked beacon]

lol there is no way that build is any good

[undone flower]

Viboslav

[remote bobcat]

someone found him

in lfg

and competed with loboz

and lost

while playing thane

shrug

[red berry]

skill diff tbh

[thick fossil]

Fuck, and I was about to head to bed.

[cosmic sundial]

I don’t think Kronzo would say “I want to try it” if it wasn’t good

[remote bobcat]

absolutely a skill diff

[sullen tendon]

its barely a buff. people say thankful because its a buff at all but like when you see other specs and hero talents have actual abilities buffed it doesnt amount to much

[wicked beacon]

3.6 mil dps overall in a 12 floodgate is low af

[remote bobcat]

No its absolutely not good

that build is ass

[red berry]

its not really much but

[remote bobcat]

but with OF build

[smoky vale]

its not, loboz is just good

[red berry]

its generous to slayer

[remote bobcat]

and the buffs

ykwim

[opal monolith]

No it isn't lmao

Logs are active dps

[remote bobcat]

this was before turbo boost

[undone flower]

And it’s not details dps

[cosmic sundial]

Ssssh I just wanna ragebait reading the past hour has been good entertainment

[opal monolith]

On details that's like 4.5m+

[wicked beacon]

I did over 4 mil overall with like 671 itemlevel before turbo boost

[remote bobcat]

real

[wicked beacon]

As arms

[remote bobcat]

link or didnt happen

[opal monolith]

Ye and this is like 4.5+

[remote bobcat]

eyebrows

[sullen tendon]

slayer in genearl feels better to play than mountain thane but mountain thane will remain on top because it has more uncapped aoe than slayer.

[opal monolith]

Learn how logs work

Logs take the DPS over the duration of the whole key not just when ur in cb like details

[cosmic sundial]

I’m pressing x so hard right now

I’ve never doubted something so much

[wicked beacon]

Allright

Obviously i was talking about details overall

[red berry]

fuck it. i want to try this. do you have strins

strings. whatever

[dense elbow]

WW damage increased by 120% is about a 3.5% AoE increase, OF 30% is about 1.2%.

Cant complain. Tho, OF is far from being a solid button.

Slayer is a helped quite a bit, I do wonder if we reached the point where spamming WW on uncapped AoE will be the call closing in

[remote bobcat]

lemme see

CgEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA0YYGbmZYmlxMjFmZmxMMDjttZGzMzGzMjxMMjFbzwMmBAAAix2yALgBMDTgBbA

[vast egret]

How close is thane going to be to arms in m+ now?

[cosmic sundial]

Stream the run for science

[sullen tendon]

it wont unless we get merciless bonegrinder back

[plucky thistle]

that buff seems like nothing, am I wrong?

[remote bobcat]

loboz build

[opal summit]

looks like a nothingburger tbh

[plucky thistle]

rip bonegrinder

😦

[opal monolith]

@wicked beacon no worries, if u mouse over the activity time you see the 'details' aka active dps

[sullen tendon]

sorry to say that you were palying with the worst unholy dk in the world

[remote bobcat]

not me

its loboz

[dense elbow]

Buff looks alright for a mid season buff. Wont change anything, really. But it helps you from being super far bottom DPS in m+

[sullen tendon]

dude unholy doing 3.5 mil in a cinderbrew 14 is insane

that is just throwing to make logs look better

[remote bobcat]

loboz build might be decent

[dense elbow]

It always has been?

[smoky turret]

im pressing x on that one

[remote bobcat]

3.5mil of full duration, not just active dps

[cosmic sundial]

@dense elbow why are you the OF guy it doesn’t do prio dam

[remote bobcat]

not equal to details

[dense elbow]

OF does good prio dam At least now it does 30% more!

[sullen tendon]

still fucking insane. unholy cna easily do 5m+ in cinderbrew overall

[undone flower]

Son of Loboz

[remote bobcat]

wake up

[red berry]

i did 5 mil in a priory 15 and i felt such joy

or no that was 14

[wicked beacon]

I have actually played in a dungeon with loboz back in DF

[dense elbow]

Hey, one more of these buffs tho, and we actually up there with Slayer.

I presume you Thane boyos are happy atm

[dapper goblet]

warrior getting another undeserved buff

smh

[wicked beacon]

And in a 12 floodgate lol

Of where i of course beat his weird builds

Not by much though

We ddin't time that 12.

[undone flower]

I might play OF on gally for few pulls to cope

[remote bobcat]

@modest condor

[modest condor]

real

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/gülmek-komik-gif-1506407869824367367

[modest condor]

xoes knows what's up

[winter shoal]

"I'm trying to play fury warrior in my keystone and I'm just 4th on the damage meters and I don't understand how the game has been like this for 7 years now" holy based dr atnos

[thick fossil]

Undeserved? Nah. Strange and missing the point buffs, yes.

[cosmic sundial]

Was that on stream today?

[remote bobcat]

dratnos? got video link?

[cosmic sundial]

^

[winter shoal]

https://youtu.be/mmBgIlY7ZFw?si=Q2jhN9f0-GmIoroO&t=1323

timestamped

[dense elbow]

Honestly, I think the buffs kinda are on point. All targeted at uncapped AoE.

A bit weak? Sure. But one more of these and we in a good spot.

[marble pilot]

Kinda lame buffs huh? I doubt they do anything other than numbers till season 3 though

[remote bobcat]

goated comment

aint gonna lie

[winter shoal]

Honestly he's spitting fire for a few minutes before this, I just thought that was particularly funny

[sullen tendon]

unless they make whirlwind an actual part of our damage and not just a supplementary ability that gives a buff it doesnt matter

[marble pilot]

The tclap.tblast is nice though.

Granted its the same ability basically

[dense elbow]

For Slayer it was around 3-4% before this buff, 120% on that is kinda big for a mid season buff.

[sullen tendon]

thunderclap no thunderblast yes

[sullen tendon]

would you say the same thing if they buffed heroic throw by %4000

[thick fossil]

I still don't see Fury being close enough to Arms for M+

[dense elbow]

No, because WW is part of our core rotation

[upbeat cedar]

nah fury fries arms in theatre of pain now

its so over.

[dense elbow]

it is actually a noticable buff

[remote bobcat]

ofc not

[thick fossil]

Meh, I'm so done with Blizzard.

[sullen tendon]

merciless bonegrinder solves this problem

for slayer

slayer procs bladestorm

[cosmic sundial]

Yeah I went back to see what the point was and he was talking about the target cap and yeah they softened a lot but why not meat cleaver smadge

[sullen tendon]

bladestorm procs merciless bonegrinder

whirlwind becomes part of our actual damage

[marble pilot]

I doubt we get anything other than numbers though till season 3. Maybe we get a real change then.

[thick fossil]

With the way things are going, after this expac I maybe done for good.

[dense elbow]

To me it seems you are looking the gifted horse in the mouth.

Overall good changes, just a tad weak, especially on the OF side.

[remote bobcat]

clueless~1

[thick fossil]

One button rotation, nuking UI/addons from orbit, continued buff nerf cycles that make no sense.

I could just go play better games.

[upbeat cedar]

bros quittin cos of the accessibility feature

[remote bobcat]

why do u care about one button

[cosmic sundial]

Not to get political but how does one button affect you?

[upbeat cedar]

too politcal bro take it to the dms

[cosmic sundial]

Fuck my bad

[sullen tendon]

it hasnt happened in 8 years

[thick fossil]

@cosmic sundial To both of you, no "one button" won't affect me. I am just not too keen on the direction the game is going.

[upbeat cedar]

rofl

[remote bobcat]

the direction being what

[cosmic sundial]

Allowing people to have fun?

[remote bobcat]

you dont know where wow is going

[earnest canyon]

I just woke up....those buffs have to be a joke right

[brazen veldt]

Can you elaborate :)

[remote bobcat]

other than the addon changes

but the 1button doesnt indicate any direction

[cosmic sundial]

Like addon changes I agree

Not arguing that

[remote bobcat]

nah its real

[cosmic sundial]

But one button is a weird hill to be on

[remote bobcat]

and it doesnt change anything

yeppers

[earnest canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-food-dance-yas-girl-gif-3700991319490306207

[dense elbow]

Why ppl so disapointed about AoE buffs for Fury
Blizz cant get even a small w from us

[remote bobcat]

funky

[earnest canyon]

ill take anything I can get

[marble pilot]

Oh I just mean like changing target caps. Or a tier set making us use aoe bleeds. Not a full rework. Just some adjustments to aoe. Lots of ways to do it.

[remote bobcat]

it doesnt change what we play

and it also doesnt change the meta

so even tho number up

the reality is

[cosmic sundial]

Sorry I’m a professional bag fumbler and I play fury so we’re never winning

[remote bobcat]

nothing changes

these are called phantom buffs

[sullen tendon]

it hasnt happened in 8 years

[remote bobcat]

thumb

[dense elbow]

Meh, I am just happy to have the overall gap decreased by around 5-6%

I take it

[winter shoal]

My main takeaway was "they're saying these are their goals and they sound good, but their track record of goals that sound good actually meaningfully improving the game is very poor" which is straight facts

[remote bobcat]

also sil said something about seismic reverb

[thick fossil]

The add ons being nuked for example. I have no faith in Blizzard to pull back the requirement for insanely mechanic heavy trash packs in every dungeon. I don't trust Blizzard to get anything right these days. These buffs just keep showing us they don't understand the root of the issues.

[winter shoal]

(my words, not his)

[remote bobcat]

and a bug with it

[undone flower]

I am happy if funky is happy

[winter shoal]

shhhh

[remote bobcat]

and used the word "compensation"

im not familiar with the bug but that isnt good news

to me

clueless~1

[cosmic sundial]

Gonna buff them all cause he’s Danny phantom

[brazen veldt]

I trust the process and they clarify they aren’t being shipped until they are CULLY confident it’s going to be useful. Max and Dratnos talked about it with their talks with Ion.

[dense elbow]

Well, two more weeks and we get another OF 95%+ buff, and BS +30% buff.

And all is good and we beat ppl on the meters

[remote bobcat]

im waiting for the day where whirlwind is a strong enough button to where we wont feel dumb pressing it in single target as a filler (we barely do more dmg clicking it than standing afk)

[marble pilot]

Seeing Sub rogue and Frost mage buffs is funny. "All damage increased by 3%/5%

[undone flower]

Almost 10 years of m+ and tanks don’t have a dungeon trashs journal

[thick fossil]

Problem is Ion talks a big game, but doesn't seem to follow through. Look at the crazy time gating on visions.

[dense elbow]

It is crazy timegated?

[brazen veldt]

Brother me thinks you just don’t like the game anymore

[thick fossil]

That is a good example.

[cosmic sundial]

Was*

[winter shoal]

It was roughly a 4% buff for thane aoe, but will likely be fixed at the same time as this change. I think this ends up being a larger boost in aoe and also affects single target, which seismic didn't

[remote bobcat]

bowwl

you a saint

wanna make out?

[thick fossil]

They made us wait for them to release it. Now they're making us wait to upgrade the trees (per week). How is that not insane time gating?

[marble pilot]

Does these changes make Thane any closer to Slayer in ST? Probably not enough to matter but Thane does fill with tclap/tblast more than slayer fills with whirlwind

[sullen dove]

strange lack of dps shaman buffs

they must be really good right now

i suppose

[winter shoal]

Idk are you a hot single in my area?

[remote bobcat]

you tell me

Lip_bite

ah fk

i messed it up

[sudden tusk]

Ret paladins someone getting 45 buffs and reworks in a row

[dense elbow]

A tiny bit

[undone flower]

It is something to thought of, (which addon is needed), mdt is one of the most urgent required in the game

[brazen veldt]

It’s 3 weeks and it’s for fun content bro…

[dapper goblet]

blizzard balances for the minigame and blue man just happens to be decent in the minigame

[remote bobcat]

hi madox

[sullen dove]

unfortunate

[winter shoal]

Aren't you EU

[remote bobcat]

yea

[sullen dove]

reverse issue for shaman

[sudden tusk]

hello

[remote bobcat]

😏

[sullen dove]

too good in m+ to get buffs for raid

L

[dapper goblet]

unironically

[remote bobcat]

whats the requirement for madox to be yellow?

[dapper goblet]

we are pretty good at fat goblin though

[sullen dove]

more petitioning

and pinging @young swan

madox yellow

[dapper goblet]

bean barkin up the madox for yellow tree for months

[undone flower]

It buffs me in raid (no slam Andy)

[red berry]

i know this is the warrior discord but does anybody know how big the FDK dif between onehander DW/twohander is

[sudden tusk]

i am useless

[remote bobcat]

madox for yellow pls

[dapper goblet]

remove the useless yellow men

[sudden tusk]

critcake is a real yellow

[remote bobcat]

you're a huge welp to warriors with ur videos

[upbeat cedar]

big

[sullen dove]

very replaceable yellow among the roster

[upbeat cedar]

2h is inting

[remote bobcat]

some yellows i barely see

yet madox

Lip_bite

[red berry]

yeah i have a friend who wants to push up a little higher and i want to try and convince him to roll that way but

[sullen dove]

some yellows are tenured

[thick fossil]

Yellows come and go man

[sullen dove]

others however are fresh meat

[winter shoal]

Vairuh said something about a 2h frost build the other day but I wasn't paying attention

[remote bobcat]

you say that yet madox isnt yellow

[winter shoal]

Deswind doesn't even play warrior anymore

[remote bobcat]

absolute_cinema

[sudden tusk]

[waxen valley]

What would one replace to take Odyn's Fury? 🤔

[remote bobcat]

play loboz build

[thick fossil]

I'm not disagreeing he should get Stormforged.

[sudden tusk]

well to get odyns fury you need to replace 3 entire talent points

[undone flower]

You made me think swordfish, I played fresh meat in my visions today

[winter shoal]

VC maybe or 1 in DE depending on how you're specced currently

[remote bobcat]

not if u play loboz

[sudden tusk]

and what 3 talents are you dropping to put 2 into an insanely mediocre crit talent

[thick fossil]

Ok, I go to sleep. I will continue math hammering tomorrow.

[winter shoal]

who is loboz

[sudden tusk]

just to get funkysfury

[remote bobcat]

this is loboz

[remote bobcat]

loboz is the best warrior on the planet?

[winter shoal]

cluegi

[junior gale]

True Loboz would also have spear and onslaught

[remote bobcat]

this is loboz

[dapper goblet]

if swordish can get the twitch role then madox should get yellow

[sullen dove]

^

[remote bobcat]

swordish twitch role is crazy thats true

[winter shoal]

If loboz is so good, why do I do more damage on Sprocket than they did on Painsmith hmm?

[remote bobcat]

doesnt gio stream at identical times as you swordish?

[remote bobcat]

bro hes just an infamous guy who always goes off-meta

[sullen dove]

on youtube bruh

[undone flower]

It’s been twice I saw it today, every time I discover a new thing, he plays with 2 point in crit class tree

[sullen dove]

dont think we got a youtube role in dis bih

[remote bobcat]

it says streamer

(yes ik the icon but w/e)

[sullen dove]

[remote bobcat]

how does it feel to astrogap @smoky vale perma

[sullen dove]

i mean he kinda uh... did stuff on most recent sprocket

big gamer man there

[remote bobcat]

stuff ?

[sullen dove]

like a 97 or somethin

and i get rocket barraged into a purple beam

fun times

[remote bobcat]

dodge

4head

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/pearto-kasane-teto-teto-pear-teto-kasane-gif-14835776628716292709

[sullen dove]

clueless

[undone flower]

Loboz killed Gally

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/pearto-pear-teto-gif-3272696767976487565

[remote bobcat]

killed

yea

[smoky turret]

okay so loboz almost got beat by some guy playing mt

is this the angle here?

[undone flower]

[remote bobcat]

listen mate

loboz build isnt meta

its not close to meta

but its fun

and refreshing

and surprisingly competitive if you know its strengths

and i will spam keys with it once the buffs drop

Nod

[wicked beacon]

The buffs?

[remote bobcat]

OF buff

[smoky turret]

[remote bobcat]

a

[wicked beacon]

OH RIGHT

I already forgot about it

[undone flower]

So good so he didn’t bother moving

[remote bobcat]

kekW

[wicked beacon]

I'm trying to get into a key

To try the build out

Just to troll the key

[remote bobcat]

Hmm

german efficiency

[red berry]

i think they should buff whirlwind 240% on top of 120% just for the bit

[wicked beacon]

But nope, can't get into a MM hunter WW monk disc priest VDH party, they'd rather have an elemental shaman

kekw

[smoky vale]

@gleaming siren lol

[undone flower]

Ofc Loboz is in top world guild

[remote bobcat]

clueless~1

northern sky is a big inspiration for me actually

since im german myself

they are the big dawgs

[undone flower]

I didn’t know they were germs

[remote bobcat]

"the french could never"

[undone flower]

I perfectly know, French guilds are so bad

They need to raid 5-6 times per week to not lose HoF over 3 days guilds

[remote bobcat]

i have a french friend and i told him he needs to look for an english guild

cuz french guilds are full of unjustified ego

lots of toxicity

[quiet breach]

guys

[remote bobcat]

yo

[quiet breach]

I'm in a raid that was an absolute fucking Trainwreck at the start, but is actually productive AF and we making big progress now

after the vibes were giga assassinated too

[remote bobcat]

whats

the prog

[quiet breach]

I don't get it

[undone flower]

I’m praying so hard those thane buffs hits prot

[quiet breach]

we went from, not being able to get weakaura working properly on sprocket to now being able to consistently get past first interm

[remote bobcat]

sick

[smoky turret]

meanwhile the ww buff hits prot

[remote bobcat]

wp

[quiet breach]

bro i can not understate

[wicked beacon]

Ok boys time to play a 16 motherlode with loboz build

[quiet breach]

how ass the vibes weere

in this raid

[wicked beacon]

LOLOL

[undone flower]

I think we press ww if it does

[quiet breach]

but it turned around somehow

this is a miracle

[remote bobcat]

have fun, remember to not press RB unless u have to

since it doesnt run RB nodes

[wicked beacon]

I know

[smoky turret]

signet prot w/ mbg in sl kinda vibe?

[undone flower]

dont talk

i'm still scared of that having ww in it as prot

[remote bobcat]

im actually surprised loboz isnt taking new titans torment - since it's all about reducing BT

[undone flower]

we will never take it

[remote bobcat]

yo did OF self enrage buff its own dmg?

or did we have to pre enrage for OF

i dont remember

[undone flower]

they could have put recklessness and not avatar tbf

[smoky turret]

vs

[remote bobcat]

cook

[smoky turret]

i dont think so

[undone flower]

i'm still mad anger management doesn't reduce avatar, my prot soul is hurt

[smoky turret]

you mean rava?

[undone flower]

no

i speak about fury

[smoky turret]

ooo yea

[undone flower]

prot is perfect rn

[remote bobcat]

nah prot season 1 rage was perfect

[smoky turret]

they should have done the wings treatment

[remote bobcat]

i loved it so much

[smoky turret]

for reck ava

[remote bobcat]

fk the starve now

[smoky turret]

just combine the effects into one spell

[undone flower]

u starve = u bad

[modest condor]

yes

[remote bobcat]

I played prot on gallywix mythic

the starve is real man

not abouit being bad

[undone flower]

at which point of the fight ?

(i saw 2min of the fight now so i understand more)

[remote bobcat]

well its like this

as prot ur the main tank on gally

so u play nearly all ego checks

but you arent always in melee range to have rage to even get shield block sometimes

so u have to rely on pre shieldblock or on bolster

cuz u have like no time to reposition gally

cuz that guys movement is weird asf

also in p2 p3 when u tank swap - you have nothing to deal damage with every time you arent the one tanking

thats why the tank bomb is actually a blessing