fury

[smoky vale]

yeah

[modest condor]

doesnt matter what they did 2 months ago when we're comparing to numbers from last week

[burnt kelp]

Well its not like anyone played them 2 months ago

[smoky vale]

there were some

[burnt kelp]

Also 15% buffs sounds pretty Big, even if probably a lot smaller on aug

[smoky vale]

it was 5%

[coral fiber]

Augs on 19s now

[dense elbow]

about 5-7%, yeah

[modest condor]

so it goes from literally the worst spec to probably the 2nd worst spec

[burnt kelp]

Thats us

[smoky vale]

aug is just a worse dev

[burnt kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/turk-took-our-jobs-jerbs-gif-10165889

[dense elbow]

I mentioned they fighting with us, and that is why we here care about aug. UDKs dont care about aug

[modest condor]

idk apparently spriest is down with us as well

[smoky vale]

people playing it just like playing it or testing

[dense elbow]

SP got PI

:(

[modest condor]

and we got battle shout

[coral fiber]

Just no damage

[dense elbow]

Shout value already added to the discussion - or at least I hope ppl do add it

It aint halfbad

[smoky vale]

it is

[dense elbow]

reason why we areny 20% behind, but 10%

[smoky vale]

when compared to the other warrior specs

🙂

[dense elbow]

reeeeeeee

stop

[smoky vale]

why would you bring a fury when arms is better

[coral fiber]

Let rally become a node choice between rally and a warrior lust

[smoky vale]

and prot is just better in a phys comp

[burnt kelp]

Yes but prot must compete with veng dh

[smoky vale]

feral enh rogue mw

[frank dawn]

tfw prot warrior bursts harder than fury warrior

[coral fiber]

Ain't no way

[smoky vale]

it does

[dense elbow]

On mass AoE, sure do

[smoky vale]

in st too

lol

[dense elbow]

Oh really?

[burnt kelp]

If prot didnt get like 10 % less damage

[frank dawn]

ehhhh, idk about st lol. it's certainly close on st

[burnt kelp]

They'd probably beat fury on overalls too

[coral fiber]

That's egregious

[frank dawn]

fury isn't that bad

[smoky vale]

not really

[frank dawn]

prot can burst hard, but you're not gonna lose to one overall unless massive skill dif

[smoky vale]

prot has bursts then it tapers off

[dense elbow]

Fury is what 3-4m in a good key, pwarrior 2-3m overalls

Pwarrior isnt really beating Fury

[smoky vale]

only 3

[coral fiber]

The bait

[smoky vale]

lets find a random log of sense playing prot

[dense elbow]

Dont bring out a meme key

[smoky vale]

unfair he did 2.2

in a key iwth a ret enh and boomie

lol

[burnt kelp]

In a world without the prot warrior nerf I'm sure we could have gotten some great content

[burnt kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-rogue-one-krennic-this-c-lose-gif-10935154

[mild ravine]

Dude, the fuck are you doing to get 4m overalls as fury?

[coarse nest]

Somebody tell em the difference between details and log

[dense elbow]

[smoky vale]

better than loboz

[dense elbow]

Loboz does around 3.2m

slayer struggles hard

[smoky vale]

its fine surely it does well in a rookery

[burnt kelp]

SEE

I knew I wasn't crazy

[dense elbow]

[burnt kelp]

man if prot dodged the nerfs like boomkin does, we'd see fury struggling vs prot

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-monkey-fight-monkey-gif-5219878

[smoky vale]

why did this do as little as spear

@dense elbow

[fluid kite]

after 120 tries on lockenstock - first try sub 30 %. how f ed am i?

[dense elbow]

you forgot to use wrecking throw, it is another 1.1% overall

[smoky vale]

theres no way this is fun

[dense elbow]

About 30%

[smoky vale]

kitty

this shit is not fun

surely its worth to overcap with os after bs

[dense elbow]

Why would you ever OS after the BS? You would 100% enrage with OS and OF after the BS to minmax the dam value from it

[smoky vale]

yeah but im overcapping rage in opener so i rampage

so

somehwere im losing rage

[dense elbow]

Why would you ever rampage, then you dont get your 5stack SS rampage in the spear window!

[smoky vale]

yeah people hwo play fury in keys need to be studied

[dense elbow]

Dont forget to wrecking throw after your 5stack rampage, for max ST dam burst

[smoky vale]

cease

[covert blaze]

🐐

[willow cradle]

Is this a meme or are you genuinely testing that out?

Cause honestly that's kinda funny

[dense elbow]

We meme'ing

After I spent BS and OF, I take a smoke, sit back and enjoy the sight of being #4 on the DPS meter in keys

[sinful spoke]

Bro running the s2 df build

[quiet breach]

what do u gain by adding a windwalker to a raid where u already have a mistweaver?

[gilded pawn]

a good spec

they were playing 4 ww in rwf

[dapper goblet]

i think they give the windwalk movespeed thing

[marble schooner]

quick Q, is going fury for OAB during prog trolling?

started prog yday and went arms but I feel like id just hit harder as fury tbh

[smoky vale]

probably more damage compared to the melee you are replacing

[young swan]

nah

[runic pine]

I mean

[coarse nest]

We’re doing good

[sinful spoke]

Deva on top

Warrior gutted 1 week during normal dungeons

[runic pine]

I'm getting this distinct feeling that I need to just start recrafting my shit for fury

[coarse nest]

I refuse

Fury right now is so blah

[runic pine]

but then I kinda own myself because prot

[coarse nest]

Way to many conditions

[runic pine]

[runic pine]

I mean I feel like it's less than arms lol

[coarse nest]

🤫

Honestly it’s probably just Naowhs WAs for fury

[runic pine]

only condition for fury is solved nicely by a WA

[coarse nest]

Making shit glow that doesn’t matter

Messing with my smol brain

[runic pine]

probably lmao

fury is literally just the same prio list and then press BT when WA says to press it

[coarse nest]

No SD kaching!?

[coarse nest]

Ahh there it is

[soft merlin]

hwo much is bloodstorm increase on the PTR?

[coarse nest]

3mfe kaching

[runic pine]

ye but WA does the work

[smoky vale]

#updates-midnight message

[soft merlin]

talking about 11.1.7 not cureent but thanks

[smoky vale]

there isnt any other change?

[young swan]

the same cause those buffs are live

[soft merlin]

thank you wasn't sure

[coarse nest]

https://tenor.com/view/cruftbox-thats-bait-gif-14966142951815598391

[smoky vale]

xan why did they kill ra

[soft merlin]

egacy of Arathor 11.1.7 PTR Development Notes - May 8, 2025 nevermind im dumb af i guess

[gilded pawn]

bloodstorm is crazy

[young swan]

id rather they kill it and try again

scrap the "empowered ability" bit

make it give reck crit dam

or some shit

idk

ive been saying the reck crit dam bit since like 10.1

[smoky vale]

i feel like this version is just worse

no one has ever talented into

[flat river]

is this real

WAIT THEY SAID TUNING

IT MIGHT BE NERF

gg

[smoky vale]

gala

you are stupid

[young swan]

good grief

[coarse nest]

Already happened

[flat river]

ohhhhhh

i already knew

i was messing

[coarse nest]

I’m surprised you didn’t notice the massive buffs we got!?!?

[flat river]

i progged sprocket today

41 pulls

10 pulls 100 parse

[smoky vale]

cope

[flat river]

15 pulls 99 parse

[smoky vale]

galastronk more like galaweak

[flat river]

why u calling yourself weak

[marble pilot]

What all are we getting next week? Rep to 12% ilvl increase and first dinar? Then Visions is the following week?

[smoky vale]

yeah

[coarse nest]

Damage is increasing a lot

Raid go poof

[hardy bluff]

damage is gonna be insane man

[undone flower]

YAS

[hardy bluff]

gz

[modest condor]

grats

[hardy bluff]

how many pulleroos?

[undone flower]

too many

[hardy bluff]

we killed on monday with like 150

kinda average i think

[undone flower]

way more than 150 i think, i need to check

238

[hardy bluff]

atleast you got good loot for it

[heavy folio]

is there a new strat postnerf?

[tender pulsar]

yea theres push start now where you don't hold damage

and there are less adds

my guild just started OAB and im trynna decide if thane or slayer is better with push strat

[young swan]

prob slayer

[coarse nest]

Full Zug skip last coin set

The cc immune adds is what you skip I think right?

Idek I just hit things and dunk a coin

[stoic loom]

just played this build in a +14

NEVER let me cook again

[tender pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/gordon-ramsay-hells-kitchen-pissed-mad-angry-gif-9001409

[stoic loom]

still timed it with the 3rd dps being lower than the tank tho

shows how easy these keys are now

and the other dps was a survival hunter

absolutely demonic comp

[coarse nest]

[stoic loom]

Survival hunter, slayer fury, havoc DH (lower than the tank on overall at 2m)

[coarse nest]

And my meta slave pugs can’t time my 14 keys

Smh

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/the-two-towers-lord-of-the-rings-aragorn-helm’s-deep-hope-gif-8669068073397169641

[sour tundra]

is everyone ready to farm out 480 crests next week with all the extra upgrade tracks?

[crude ridge]

You at least get the BIS for all those pulls?

[undone flower]

i didn't roll on hoc and i lost the roll on BiS

[crude ridge]

You rolled for it?

Tf?

[undone flower]

yeah i rolled for BiS

[crude ridge]

Was it an even upgrade for you and someone else?

[coarse nest]

My body is ready

[celest anchor]

first tier 99 median avg

[coarse nest]

Yo go off king

Hollyyy

[undone flower]

holly molly

[dense elbow]

[lament mountain]

Wow

[quiet breach]

wtf

[coarse nest]

That’s a race to world first raider btw

Man pipes

[quiet breach]

yeah I realized afterwords

that's the only way that makes sense

[modest condor]

gets carried by fast kill times

[crude ridge]

Nah show lastest patch numbers

[coarse nest]

[undone flower]

^

[crude ridge]

First kill parses help a lot

[crude ridge]

Ok now I believe you lol

Well played

[coarse nest]

Yall griefing the guy that figures out how to min max the fights for us

Smh

[crude ridge]

Not hard to do for fury

[modest condor]

just press buttons

[smoky vale]

goat

[undone flower]

carried by ilvl 100%

[plush maple]

FURY WARRIOR FOR THE WIN! ECHO FOR THE WIN

LOK'TAR OGAR BROTHER

[remote bobcat]

are yall boosting myth yet or just reclearing?

[stoic loom]

just under 4m dps with this build

lets go!!!

[remote bobcat]

1 point in vc is crazy

[stoic loom]

Yeah maybe lose wrath and fury for another vc point

[winter shoal]

I beat you on hc OAB while you guys were doing splits so who's the real winner

[stoic loom]

but gonna feel awful on bosses with no reset

[edgy widget]

keep Wrath and Fury, but drop 1 point from Deft for the 2nd VC

[stoic loom]

I dont have depths

[edgy widget]

*Deft

[stoic loom]

Then i cant go into onslaught

[edgy widget]

onslaught is garbage

do this if you wanna push Slayer in M+

[stoic loom]

the point of this build is to allow me to play either onslaugh or odyns fury tho

to spice it up a bit

[edgy widget]

oh I thought you were trying to do good w/ Slayer

[stoic loom]

im just helping the homies get their resil 13-14s

so playing low iq builds

[forest owl]

poggers

[stoic loom]

also did an odyns fury key and it did same overall as onslaught

kinda bleak

[edgy widget]

if you're set on playing Onslaught, then try dropping Bloodcraze? it doesn't sound like you're pressing Raging Blow in multitarget all that much anyway

[remote bobcat]

gz gz

[stoic loom]

If i drop bloodcraze i cant keep going down that tree into onslaught xd

unless i go bloodborne

[edgy widget]

oh yeah I guess you're right

[stoic loom]

but bloodborne also seems awful

[edgy widget]

idk, Onslaught is super trap

[stoic loom]

ye not gonna argue against that xd

i am enjoying the extra button to press tho for sure

[edgy widget]

at the very least swap Critical Thinking for Swift Strikes, since you're apparently not using RB that much

[stoic loom]

and my rampage was very high which might be because of tenderize

i think bladestorm was my #1 when i went odyns fury instead of onslaught

[stoic loom]

ye good shout

i swapped to onslaught from OF and didnt even think about that

[edgy widget]

Tenderize is good yeah; it's mostly just that Ons itself is weak after they buffed the crap out of rotational spells

[stoic loom]

about to go into 14 top now

slayer fury, survival hunter, ww monk

this MIGHT just be the ideal physical comp

[edgy widget]

resto sham heals?

[stoic loom]

yes sir

big 660 rshaman gamer

[edgy widget]

huge

[forest owl]

ty ty

[edgy widget]

wait, you know what

why don't you just drop Ashen Jugg?

[stoic loom]

Think it might be good for bladestorm resets

for a better chance at execute crits

[celest anchor]

[edgy widget]

crits don't do anything though

[stoic loom]

not opposed to dropping it

isnt it execute crits that reduce bladestorm cd?

[edgy widget]

no, consuming Marked does

[stoic loom]

oh idk why i thought that then

what would you drop ashen jug for? 2nd point in VC?

[edgy widget]

conflating with Colossal Might's bonus on crits

[edgy widget]

Yeah I suppose

[stoic loom]

GOnna do that then

[edgy widget]

Maybe log one of your runs, see what actual uptime you're getting on Ashen (as in 5 stack uptime, not just 1 stack)

but I can't imagine it's doing that much unless you're hard chain pulling to maintain it

[stoic loom]

ye you're prob right

gonna give it a go in this big TOP with the single target gamers

[edgy widget]

I think you'll run into rotational problems if you drop both H&S and W&F though

[stoic loom]

ye exactly

gonna be awful

with no resets

[edgy widget]

if anything, you'd rather drop Cruelty before W&F

[stoic loom]

just pulled the first 4 mobs into the first boss of top

was behind the prot warrior for teh first 25 seconds

🤣

[quiet breach]

663 Aug with old 2 PC timing a +19

[quiet breach]

@tepid cedar thoughts on this image?

[smoky vale]

whats wrong with that image

[coarse nest]

Aug buying title!?

[smoky vale]

i think that guy has played aug in the past

or that a warrior player

its a regular guy doing keys with his friends

stay mad

[coarse nest]

That guy plays the game!!

[smoky vale]

w

[stoic loom]

u got a log for the dps?

[quiet breach]

dunno a guildie just posted that image, lemme ask him

[smoky vale]

me when you can google trh character

[tepid cedar]

has he EVER oplayed with them before

oh same guild

[summer quail]

663 4.3m

[tepid cedar]

probably boosting him for title. and aug might actualy be decent again. real good synergy with enh and boomie tbh

[quiet breach]

not boosted

[tepid cedar]

i mean not that kind of boosting

[quiet breach]

oh u mean like

[tepid cedar]

but like they getting him up there

[quiet breach]

just getting his other toons

up there

[tepid cedar]

yeaa

[quiet breach]

I see

[tepid cedar]

those numbers already higher than fury

LOLOLOL

[stoic loom]

ye

[dense elbow]

Imagine if he played Fury, would do twice that

[stoic loom]

bro i literally called this last week

when the new class changes were announced

fury was already barely ahead of aug, and with the 15% damage buff it would literally be behind

[dense elbow]

Well, that doesnt come as a suprise at all, based on data we had to guess from - that Aug is catching up and going to pass us at one point

[smoky vale]

it always was

[stoic loom]

All that's left is for you all to just play slayer fury with awful builds

thats my life now

[quiet breach]

dunno about logs but here's this https://raider.io/mythic-plus-runs/season-tww-2/14137076-19-the-motherlode

[dense elbow]

Good, join my life - Play slayer, dont look at DPS meters, be... content I might be boosted, but I am a happy boostie

[tepid cedar]

LOL know whats funny. yea i havent pushed ina a while and these numbers are kinda old. but llok at this shit

dude shit on me at 662 ilvl

LOLOLOLOL

[quiet breach]

does any top m+ teams use a prot warrior at least

[stoic loom]

i just did 4 keys as slayer

[quiet breach]

[stoic loom]

and im not even joking, the last 2 keys i was thinking how much damage i'd be doing instead if i was on my shaman

[dense elbow]

Ye, I got the same situation, but with my MM

[stoic loom]

comes as no surprise that i didnt even do my 3rd m+ vault slot on warrior these past couple weeks

ive been playing warrior for 16 years now

shaman for 2 months

[smoky vale]

a bunch do

[tepid cedar]

i legit wanna go run some 16s jsut to see how much dps ive gone up. like that motherload was a 15 on april 5th

[stoic loom]

nearly have resilient 17s and doing 5m+ overall nearly every key

[tepid cedar]

if i dont break 4 mil and beat that aug, im deleting

[stoic loom]

warrior just isnt it anymore im afraid

[dense elbow]

I am sure ya can beat your shaman, that aug tho? Prob not

[quiet breach]

what about MDI teams?

[dense elbow]

Novix going to show us the power of Fury

[smoky vale]

dunno not watching mdi totally

[stoic loom]

Noxiv did 3.80m dps overall in his motherlode 18

[quiet breach]

do u guys think noxiv thinks fury sucks d

[dense elbow]

limiters will be released, he gonna do 1m over anyone else

[smoky vale]

no spoilers

[dense elbow]

Got to trust in the power of the heart of the class

If we believe strongly enough, with hope and positive feelings

[tepid cedar]

funny cause i was beating noxiv dps in the start of season when i was pushing hahaha proud moment

[dense elbow]

While you were paddin' overall

he was focusing his blade

tempering it with the cool methodical prio damage

[tepid cedar]

LOL

ahjh is ee what ur doing funky

im loling right now

[dense elbow]

Here ya go

Soon, we shall stand united cheering on, knowing he can do it in the final round

[tepid cedar]

as a wahsed CE raider, im all about that pug mythic life now... GOING TO THE MOON BOYSSS

went in blind picking my nose on rik, prolly about 8-9 pulls i think for kill and that was an easy fiught to learn but actually fun

was surprised

[quiet breach]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/QmJMYDhLKgyVC9pw?fight=19&type=summary

[sinful spoke]

this isnt worth it right

like not good enough

[balmy shore]

HEY M GALLY GAMERS can u leap over the blue circles after they've dropped

[chrome plover]

no you'll take damage

[balmy shore]

thank chawie

[summer quail]

i mean depends. void elf portal can be very nice on some fights

[balmy shore]

s

[summer quail]

s

[flat river]

s

[chrome plover]

once it's turned into lightning at least, leap/charge wont work

s

[sinful spoke]

s

[sinful spoke]

yeah but velfs look like shit

[balmy shore]

well what good is leap for then!!!!! cringe!!!!!!

[chrome plover]

true!!!!

[balmy shore]

surely we are higher then those stinky sparks

[chrome plover]

just rng what mechanics respect verticality

could leap over everything on ansurek

[summer quail]

ehh they're aight

[balmy shore]

yeah that was based

[sinful spoke]

also

this is crazy cause

vulpera and undead are literally the worst classes

[flat river]

human best race

[echo stag]

is their an improved whirlwind weak aura to see how many stacks left of the cleave?

[young swan]

tons of em

prob have to do a lil search on wago

or just yoink a full WA pack

[silk wharf]

If you need something basic the templates in the premade auras likely cover it.

99% of my auras are just template auras with added glows n' such.

Though, speaking of whirlwind. Has anyone else noticed there's some sort of delay in whatever tracking method you use for WW stacks being consumed since the patch?

Like, well within the following gcd before it updates.

[dark elbow]

Only with rampage

Stack gets consumed at the last hit

[silk wharf]

Oh like its only consuming it once the rampage is done?

Ah

[dark elbow]

Noticed it aswell but thought it was prob me

[tepid cedar]

just count in your head, 1..2..3..4..ww.1..2..3..4.

lolol

[echo stag]

no cahnce i can count to 4 every single time

[chilly fractal]

You used to have to count to 2

Or during that glorious time where we could just spam Whirlwind for a few seconds after Bladestorm ends

[covert blaze]

say sike right now

[sinful spoke]

zhai i love u but

male velf is doodoo

female velf is aight

but plate looks bad on it

literal leather and cloth races

[covert blaze]

I agree honestly

plate helmets look very weird

[sinful spoke]

shoulders r tiny too

[summer quail]

i think my female velf looks aight. i am not wearing a helmet tho

[smoky vale]

have you seen my velf

[balmy shore]

yayayayay!!!!!!

[modest condor]

grats

[tepid cedar]

lol my 1st and only pull on cauldron we 3m boysssss

[charred flume]

im trying to better my rotation what are things that you guys do that make ur rotation good

im just stuck

[timber hare]

Huuuuge

[balmy shore]

HI SILM THANK

[left perch]

just wanna double post and say congrats btw

big robot killa

[full portal]

how do I hide sprocket yelling text box?

[sullen dove]

these maybe?

[full portal]

I'll try that

it worked, ty

[feral ivy]

took forever

[slate light]

ggs

[sinful spoke]

Good shit jackie

[feral ivy]

gratz

[smoky vale]

does anyone know what might cause oab coins to insta shoot out before baits

[feral ivy]

im on OAB now does it matter with AM vs RA?

[sullen dove]

you dont play ra ever no?

u mean thane vs slayer?

[lilac temple]

Has anyone tried slayer in keys?

[iron portal]

Loboz

[fiery edge]

noviv tested some pulls in M+ then went back to MT

I just smashed my TV in front of 30 guests at my party because of the fury "buffs".
My wife just took our 5 crying kids and said they're all spending the weekend at a hotel.
These "buffs" have ruined my life and my expectations - I just want to play the game and have fun.
The developers don't know what they're doing I can't handle this anymore.
Goodbye Blizzard, I'm no longer a fan.

[smoky vale]

guys no way

fury sucks in a format where you pull big

[sinful spoke]

Gio weeb

Elsa pfp

[balmy shore]

TY we went up like 100 world ranks this tier

[quiet breach]

I just smashed my TV in front of 30 guests at my party because of the fury "buffs".
My wife just took our 5 crying kids and said they're all spending the weekend at a hotel.
These "buffs" have ruined my life and my expectations - I just want to play the game and have fun.
The developers don't know what they're doing I can't handle this anymore.
Goodbye Blizzard, I'm no longer a fan.

[fiery edge]

aint that the obvious

[balmy shore]

(we’re like a 2.5 day guild)

[sinful spoke]

holy gamers

[balmy shore]

giga!!!

[sinful spoke]

📈 less game time = time to absorb whats learned

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-lateralus-parabol-third-eye-tool-gif-16499016

[solemn widget]

Moving IRL and missed most of mugzee prog guild best pull was 5 percent going into tonight had a last minute call out and decided to send fury ST and snagged mythic mugzee in 10 pulls life is good 😎

[thorny pagoda]

Feel the WW stacks delay too

[sour frigate]

Based.

[unreal onyx]

9min cauldron fight is diabolical

They don't enrage by then?

[subtle heron]

God I hope that belt stays as it is. That would be the funniest shit in the world right now.

👉 Arch's latest tweet.

[tardy lark]

Jackie big famed slayer?!

[chrome plover]

omg gz

[chrome plover]

are people still getting granted famed

[smoky vale]

shouldnt be

[tardy lark]

some rando guild on ragnaros got it last night at least

[smoky vale]

wiah

[unreal onyx]

I thought HoF was over for like 2 weeks or so at least

[smoky vale]

no this reset closed

[chrome plover]

it should be closed this reset

they extended it by 1 reset already because of the issues with oab/mugzee

[clever belfry]

all of which were self inflicted

[chrome plover]

wdym

self inflicted by extending for prog?

[clever belfry]

them changing it (badly, not retroactively) mid prog cause 3 guilds bought lockouts

just remove them manually

or manual add other people that qualify

[chrome plover]

oh right self inflicted by blizzard

[clever belfry]

instead of whatever the fuck this was.

[chrome plover]

yeah

i thought you meant by the guilds who didnt get hof

[clever belfry]

crazy embarassing

[chrome plover]

yeah we killed gally last wednesday (imo didnt deserve hof) and only got granted the achievement last night after reclearing oab

it's a mess

[clever belfry]

idk how many guilds even have hof now

hof page cuts off at 200

should be ~400

[chrome plover]

we were 240 and there was 6 more days after we killed the boss

[clever belfry]

rio alone has 345 guilds tracked

[chrome plover]

jesus

[clever belfry]

and they dont track nearly all CN guilds

u gotta subtract some that killed post reset

but id recon its about 400 ye

top200 btw

[chrome plover]

what website is actually most accurate for tracking world ranks

rio and wowprog say 240 but wcl says 280

[clever belfry]

🤷‍♂️

[tardy lark]

wowprog is dead, rio has CN manually added and WCL requires playing parties uploading the log

Sort of pick your poison

[chrome plover]

wcl includes private loggers though in world ranks right, for example it shows liquid rank1 echo rank 2

surely most CE guilds or at least top 300 log

so probably most accurate?

[tardy lark]

Yes, which is why its the place i'd trust the most 🤷‍♀️

[chrome plover]

ok noted

wr 287 hall of fame, crazy stuff 💀

[tardy lark]

this season doesnt even categorizie as mickey mouse season

its even lesser

[flat river]

dont u dare disrespect mickey mouse

[chrome plover]

yep

[tidal kindle]

Mini mouse?

https://tenor.com/view/hercules-hades-huh-what-looking-gif-17661802

[oblique trail]

@clever belfry

[clever belfry]

rude?

[oblique trail]

[fickle bluff]

It's him
Richard reverberation

[flat river]

hello banezi

https://tenor.com/view/seal-rocking-crazy-crazy-seal-insane-man-gif-6717527695886076289

[clever belfry]

this is Richard Radio buddy

[gleaming siren]

Richard radio fm

[charred flint]

So

Guy

Guys

After Bladestorm

If i get a RB recharge

should i cast it 3 times

Or do i just send rampage to not overstack rage that much

[silent aurora]

i can't say i'm sure of it but you can probably cast RB while you're still enraged before rampage

[hardy vault]

and if enraged fade off ? rampage or rb ?

[silent aurora]

rampage in that case to get enraged back

usually except if you get a lot of RB recharge you will probably don't have enough to loose enrage

[oblique trail]

Assuming you're not on a fight where you have to instantly send, you just spam RB until you run out of charges or enrage, overcapping rage is not a variable you think of

[clever belfry]

b-b-but 4 stack cond in apl?!!!!!

[charred flint]

Isn't it worth to

not be enraged and just keep sending Rbs?

Doesnt the pressing of rampage already buff its damage, and isnt rampage the big damage dealer? or we lost a lot in autoattacks and other stuff?

[chrome plover]

raging blow does dam

sending unenraged raging blows + your autos/potential slayer strike procs etc

is not worth it

realistically the diff between sending an unenraged raging blow before rampage and just sending the rampage is probably very minute

[marble pilot]

I might be rampaging too often. I've always just sent it as number 1 prio for enrage uptime and cdr on reck. But if it's worth to dump any raging blow charges before sending then I'll need to fix that.

[chrome plover]

maintaining enrage does not require sending rampage asap

[charred flint]

You dump raging blow stacks after bladestorm

[marble pilot]

No. But it does reduce cdr faster if you send more of them right.

[charred flint]

Because of the buff it generates

[chrome plover]

so pressing rb while enraged on <100 rage, sending execute on it's conditionals regardless of rage, and spamming rb while enraged after bladestorm are all higher prio than rampage

[charred flint]

The difference of sending Rampage at 80 and +100 used to be so minor it wasnt really worth to think about it outside of CDs back in the day but im not sure how it is now

Probably besidees you know, the buff after bladestorm and execute with 3 stacks i dont believe it should change much still but i might be wrong.

[marble pilot]

I guess it's the <100 rage one I don't care about much.
After bladestorm I spam rb for sure
It's outside that window where I usually just rampage every chance I can.

[dense elbow]

Boyy am I tired of being kicked from groups for doing too low AoE damage

[chrome plover]

I think spamming rb after bladestorm is only like 0.3 or 0.4% i guess it depends on your definition of "change much"

[charred flint]

Im 356 ilvl i can't get into any groups i know the feel lmao

[dense elbow]

Resi keys, we do the first few big AoE pulls, gets kicked for too low AoE dam

now that is a feels fury moment

[chrome plover]

that's crazy

[marble pilot]

I only run with at least one other guildie. But yeah its annoying.

Next season

[undone flower]

The buffed OF wet dream of Funky

[dense elbow]

If they double the damage of reap, it will do as much damage as a shaman earthquake, quadroople it, and we now got an ability on par with chain lightning. Bladestorm on AoE does less damage than Lightning Rod

Bladestorm is worse than rend flesh, the DoT from the BM spawning in the bear ._. of course less damage than anything else with a tiniest bit of cleave

Man do I hope we get another 50% buff on BS, at least

Then we got an ability that can equal rotationals for others as a CD

[undone flower]

buff the most popular spec again

[valid trellis]

Hey guys ! New warrior here since this season, looking for tips to improve my DPS for keys over 11/12 but looks like Fury is doomed... Us there a solution ? It's so fun don't wanna play ret pala or dk to make mêlée dmg

[dense elbow]

For 12s you should be more than fine, as keys should go down quite easily no matter what. Just focus on getting gear as #1, then focus on improving your rotation as you go

[undone flower]

Mêlée oui

[valid trellis]

Overall I do 2M/2m5 in keys looks like it's low

Sorry french correction automatically!

[dense elbow]

Depends, I either do 4m or 2m, depending on the dung and tank in lowkeys

On overall, you should end up around 10-20% lower than the other DPS in the group. As long you are doing that, you are doing fine

[valid trellis]

So if you wanna do 13+ keys, you go Arms ? Or is it low too ?

[dense elbow]

I would prob jump to arms, yeah

[undone flower]

I do 3m2-3m4 in every key myself at 670 ilvl, it is funny that I do same overall in ToP and cinderbrew

[dense elbow]

You can do it as Fury, just know you gonna get depressed from the status we got

[undone flower]

I think you can grab a mil with just ilvl

[valid trellis]

Cause I have the feeling that Fury on bosses is stronger than Arms, i'm always first on single target bosses

[undone flower]

If you are 640 ish

[valid trellis]

I'm 667 lol haha

[dense elbow]

We dont know what his tank is doing, so try not to judge

tank = the biggest factor for your DPS

[valid trellis]

Something must be wrong in my rota

[dense elbow]

Hard for us to say, we dont know the overall situation

[undone flower]

Oh sorry I thought it was a new char moment, yeah something is off

[valid trellis]

Yeah I imagine

[dense elbow]

As long you are sitting around 2m ST DPS on a bad day

then you doing alright

AoE is a mess

overall is a mess

but ST?

ST is eternal

[fiery edge]

is the opener still Reck + Ava - charge or Reck - charge - Ava?

[dense elbow]

reck 1st, then charge and ava in any order if you dont do a reck-ava macro

[valid trellis]

I do only Reck to get the rage to insta rampage

[undone flower]

If you do 2m+ in ST you do something correct in your rotation but can’t do overall, maybe bc you don’t use cd on cd etc

[valid trellis]

You get 8 seconds or Avatar when you press Reck

[dense elbow]

Could be tank

just saying

Low keys and tanks

is hell

Rougz, what is your ST like?

[valid trellis]

Yeah so many leavers

[dense elbow]

2-2.5m?

[valid trellis]

Well yesterday last boss of Rookery

[dense elbow]

Sure, give me rook

[valid trellis]

I was 2m3

[dense elbow]

2.3m?

[valid trellis]

Yeah

[dense elbow]

Oh you doing something real wrong, that is a 3m+ boss

Were you forced out of melee?

[valid trellis]

Oh wow that's good then means I can improve real good

Yeah for 5 seconds

[fiery edge]

i hated so much, especially cinderbrew, tank left after 1 wipe

[dense elbow]

Then I can see it, out of melee during amp phase will ruin your DPS

[valid trellis]

To dispell the cristal

[dense elbow]

ye

[valid trellis]

But I was nowhere near the 3M

[undone flower]

Yeah I was raising my eyebrows for that 2.3m for a boss with dmg amp

[dense elbow]

What is your avg ST, on a normal boss, like the bird one, 1st boss

[valid trellis]

I never was on any boss

[undone flower]

Or like second boss priory

[valid trellis]

1.9m/2m usually

[undone flower]

A boss where there is nothing other than the boss + no amp

[dense elbow]

Not too shabby, around the right amount

A bit on the lower side, but that could just be gearing

[undone flower]

Yes that seems correct

[valid trellis]

Ooooh there was a question Incouldnt find the answer

What's the soft cap on secondary stat ?

How much Mastery/haste shall I aim for ?

[dense elbow]

Dont care about softcaps

[valid trellis]

Ok good

[dense elbow]

Just do raidbots, a 1target 5min sim

[balmy shore]

omg ty :3

[dense elbow]

for AoE minmax, do 5 or 8 targets

[clever belfry]

There is no real softcaps, there is some DR breakpoints but robot know more

[undone flower]

There are diminishing returns but humans don’t have the brain power to know which value this stat has now

[oblique trail]

[balmy shore]

maybe next tier if we change to 3 day,,,,

[valid trellis]

Used to play during Bc/WOTLK never heard of sims before haha

[clever belfry]

mraow

[balmy shore]

mraow

[chrome plover]

you can stay 2day and have an optional day for heroic splits/some prog

[balmy shore]

SPLITS

[chrome plover]

become a 2 day (but actually 3 day) guild

splits are op

[balmy shore]

SPLITS

we’re like a 2.5 sometimes

[undone flower]

Or raid 7 days near the end of HoF

[balmy shore]

3 days for the first 2-3 weeks and then 2 day

[dense elbow]

Quite essential to minmax your gear for higher content, as you are starting to move into it yourself, you should look into doing sims

[chrome plover]

3 days for the first 8 weeks

[balmy shore]

EXACTLY

[oblique trail]

https://tenor.com/view/chonky-cat-chonk-cats-cute-tickle-gif-22976826

[undone flower]

Fake 2 days are the guild who understood the shit

[modest condor]

yuck

[balmy shore]

RIGHT?

ew splits!!

no thanks!!

[tardy lark]

its kinda fun to play an alt, but i did 2 mirrors cause of irl time crunch

that is not fun

[valid trellis]

@dense elbow would you mind take a look at m'y armory sheet and see if there's anything terrible on it ? https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/fr-fr/character/eu/marécage-de-zangar/ogurz/

[balmy shore]

sometimes i’ll play a mirror but it’s kind of a meme

not like serious

that’s too much

[chrome plover]

I enjoy playing a lot of alts

[ornate gust]

Congrats

[balmy shore]

TY

[chrome plover]

and doing hc on one of them for the first few weeks with the guild is fun

and means our mains get double* loot from heroic

[balmy shore]

i’m trying to find another alt i like i only play ret really

[tardy lark]

i like having alts do actualk content

just doing hc, 10s and 4/8M is just chores

[chrome plover]

they wouldnt let me bring my boomy to bandit reclear :/

they thought i was joking :/

[dense elbow]

https://raider.io/characters/eu/marécage-de-zangar/Ogurz?loadout=logged-mplus__131187485
I am doing into a key, Happy you take a look

[undone flower]

Target dummy bosses on alts AND stix are not fun, 100% true

[chrome plover]

idk i just enjoy gearing and playing a new thing for a bit

[balmy shore]

boomies are red flags that was a good choice by them

[chrome plover]

aware

they all just do hc, 10s and a few mythic bosses :(

[balmy shore]

wow this guy loves world of warcraft

[tardy lark]

and there is 0 challenge to be found, which is why its boring to me

[chrome plover]

I do :(

[river reef]

you are a sick man

[balmy shore]

:)

[undone flower]

Im not a pro on logs for fury / im better for prot for sure, i give the hot potato to someone else
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/94LMkRXzVtcPnm1x?fight=9&type=damage-done

[chrome plover]

yeah fair

[valid trellis]

Just realized I dced in Arms stuff/talents not gonna bé useful haha

[chrome plover]

idk something fun to me about spamming 10s on a new character with friends chillin in disc

[river reef]

mfw i am not chilling with chawie in disc so we are not friends

[chrome plover]

that doesnt add up

[undone flower]

It’s fine I found a log with you as fury yesterday in a rookery 10, people can see what’s wrong from that I guess

[river reef]

you dont add up

[tardy lark]

the gearing part when you dont pug is fun, but at some point you hit a cap and you'd require more mythic bosses

i also hate not playing at "optimal" power if that makes sense

like, i dont feel like i can start to really play a character before bis trinkets and myth track weapon

[chrome plover]

yeah that makes sense, i really slowed down on my dk when it hit 669/670~ and wasnt really arsed to pug mythic

[undone flower]

But it would be more fun to play OTHER games than WoW with friends during downtime season period

[chrome plover]

I really enjoy that middle gear stage where you're giga scuffed and every upgrade feels massive

and u see ur dps number go up

[chrome plover]

i also do this

[river reef]

when the new poe 1 season rolls around

[tardy lark]

Yeah, that part is the fun part, but when you then spend 6 weeks "not feeling" the character cause HoC is such an important item, it feels bad

[river reef]

[tardy lark]

PoE1

what is that even

[undone flower]

We are having survival games typical rampage rn with 3 bros

[river reef]

true

[chrome plover]

playing poe with friends

[river reef]

again

[chrome plover]

you play poe alongside friends

not with them

[tardy lark]

People doing group play are actual psychos

[river reef]

imagine being aura bot slave

[chrome plover]

having done high end group play i agree

[tardy lark]

im just here to culll

🙂

[chrome plover]

you're all just following the one guy on the map and right clicking

everyone has to play on min settings and cant see anything on the screen or you crash

and you just follow that little dot on the map overlay

and hover over belts

[tardy lark]

not having yoru main button on Q smh

[chrome plover]

every 500 leather belts you hover over you pog out

and that's it

[tardy lark]

make sure to have "noooo wayyy dduuuuuhhde" expressions when you find a mageblood

[chrome plover]

i did duo in affliction for a long time

that was fun

but eventually you are sick of hovering over belts

spent longer in every map hovering items than actually playing

[undone flower]

Im not good with fury logs, it might be more useful for me if you stream what you do (im sadly french too)

[river reef]

yikes

[tardy lark]

I wish we could have last epoch like loot filters so you actually could filter for useful shit instead

[chrome plover]

i do have a friend that uses an overlay for that (the other things it does is literally cheating and i dont like it) but holy shit having the uniques say what they are/their value is so fucking huge qol

[undone flower]

Like Pawn in wow

[tardy lark]

Pawn

[undone flower]

I don’t play these games so I can just imagine pawn on items when you guys talk about poe etc

[tardy lark]

Imagine PoB for WoW

i would never actually play wow

[warm crag]

We need a shocked stat for wow to fake sims with

I guess pi is right there

[chrome plover]

i fucking love pob

everything in life should have pob

i would never do anything

[river reef]

stop pressing enter

[chrome plover]

what

[river reef]

youre yapping

fuck PoB

[chrome plover]

havent you got a guild to quit?

[river reef]

bro

[tardy lark]

just need a "damage taken increase" % override on siegebreaker and colossus smash

[river reef]

siegebreaker

my beloved

its been too long

[chrome plover]

every boss has a 70% shock

[tardy lark]

siegebreaker was my bigwigs

"so im supposed to rally after 5th siegebreaker"

[tepid cedar]

I don’t know lol I fucking died at with the monkey having 2% to save the run lol

[river reef]

its like when youre in the car and you measure distances in songs. I am home in 4 songs

[remote bobcat]

yo gz on CE jackie

[warm crag]

Real

[tardy lark]

what psycho has the same car playlist start at the same song every time they sit in their car

[river reef]

what playlist.. bro im listening to radio

[remote bobcat]

jaina prog my beloved

[tardy lark]

even more deranged

[river reef]

my car is like 20 years old bro

[remote bobcat]

are you 50yo ?

[tardy lark]

"wonder if im in the 4 min of ads timeslot or im lucky iwht only 2min"

[river reef]

💀

[chrome plover]

lmfao

[undone flower]

U guys can put playlists in your car ??? I need to put music on a CD on mine it’s such a pain

[tardy lark]

buy a jbl speaker and use that

they are like... 15 euro

[south kayak]

using a cd is cool tbh

[coarse nest]

Bro you’re still using a CD player!?

[undone flower]

Nah I just have my phone with max sound in reality, I don’t have the thing to write on cd on my pc

[coarse nest]

Kinda cool ngl

[undone flower]

But I do listen album cd etc

[hardy cargo]

my first car I had a cassette tape adapter I would plug into my phone

[south kayak]

I don't have a car

[undone flower]

But have like just 3 or 4 in the car so it’s always the same groups

And the same albums

[balmy shore]

tytyty

[south kayak]

Wish I had a license/car

[coarse nest]

Oh shit Gz!

[south kayak]

Congrats

[remote bobcat]

whats holding you back

[south kayak]

Me

[remote bobcat]

?

[summer quail]

Casette for the real vintage

[undone flower]

The license I guess

[balmy shore]

imagine owning a car

[coarse nest]

Surely my team smokes mugz prog with the gorillion% damage buffs happening over the next two weeks

[south kayak]

I am an idiot

[balmy shore]

imagine driving

[remote bobcat]

I worked for a year to afford 3k for a drivers license and then 2k for car

thumb

Worth it

[balmy shore]

haven’t driven in almost 7 years

[hardy cargo]

driving owns

[remote bobcat]

unc

[undone flower]

Im pulling him Monday

[coarse nest]

Bro you ever have one of those Caset tapes with the cord for your phone to play music!?

[tardy lark]

wish that was me

[balmy shore]

is that unc or is that just living in nyc

[remote bobcat]

unc energy

[south kayak]

I had a anxiety issues about being in a car a few years ago and i never finished the tests

[tardy lark]

bro i miss nyc transport

[south kayak]

I don't have em anymore but Im procrastinating lol

[balmy shore]

sometimes i don’t

[undone flower]

Unc spotted

[balmy shore]

LOL

[chrome plover]

yeah ur gonna smoke p1 prog then wipe immediately in p2 100 times

[balmy shore]

sometimes it’s a pain

[tardy lark]

get to brooklyn or the bronx and that sort of stops

but manhattan bangs

[remote bobcat]

you're french you cant call jackie unc

[flat river]

xd

[undone flower]

Oncle

[coarse nest]

So real too

[remote bobcat]

cmon bro

[balmy shore]

oh they prob don’t even know what nyc IS

[remote bobcat]

better

[remote bobcat]

new york city

we all know

yap yap

[clever belfry]

ok like cmon

[balmy shore]

are u guys 4 healing

[coarse nest]

Am I weird for actively not wanting to be in a taxi or on a bus for transport!?

[undone flower]

Should I just say onc ? I feel like a duck now

[balmy shore]

TAXI?

[remote bobcat]

semi hot take: i think 5 heal strat is better for prog

YEP

[tardy lark]

I dont think ive had better public transport options than in seoul and busan

[clever belfry]

Being rich enough for a taxi gg

[coarse nest]

Not sure what they’ll do yet we just killed OAB last night and re cleared. I’d imagine 4 heal full Zug strat yeah

[balmy shore]

nah 4 heal owns

[south kayak]

Imagine having money for taxis

[balmy shore]

we proved mugzee in 102 pulls

[south kayak]

Metro is fine but it's too crowded here

[balmy shore]

progged

[tardy lark]

denmark public transport blows

[undone flower]

Not leaving the apartments and never touching grass is the play here

[south kayak]

it's almost india level crowded

[clever belfry]

Surely CPH is fine

[chrome plover]

london public transport owns

[remote bobcat]

did you guys just game last soaks?

[tardy lark]

the very center that covers the metro line is

[coarse nest]

“Brother, I take you anywhere my brother”

[tardy lark]

and that is not very far

[balmy shore]

the overlap entering last phase?

[clever belfry]

L swamp country once again

wcyd

[balmy shore]

or the very last one

[tardy lark]

yeah dk is 3rd world

[remote bobcat]

4prison set

[balmy shore]

we didn’t game it

[clever belfry]

that set ain't all that hard frankly

[balmy shore]

we split the raid into 4 and had like maybe two people out

i don’t know how you would game the prisons

[novel plinth]

Is there a way to sims with the increased items level atm or this will be released closer/after next tuesday changes?

[tardy lark]

2-3 people in the prisons and have the rocket open the prisons

[remote bobcat]

my group is at 150 pulls 6%, we keep failing post intermission cuz 5 people keep cycling early deaths back and forth causing us not to progress further. Not enough people in prisons so people die in prison and so on and so forth

[balmy shore]

oh no we have everyone alive going into that

[chrome plover]

1 healer +2 dps in 3 and 3 tanky melees in 1, soak in the middle of 2 prisons

[remote bobcat]

by gaming the prisons i meant that yall are just epic gamers doing it 1st try into kill

[balmy shore]

not first try

a couple of tries for sure

[chrome plover]

did u reclear or extend gally

jackie

[balmy shore]

i don’t think we did that but idk what rockets are

extendo

we extended on oab

[chrome plover]

same as us 🤝

now u have the rest of the week off

[balmy shore]

big brain

[undone flower]

When you say game or not game the prisons and splitting the raid in 4 / does it mean the 4 groups stays inside them ? I’m starting mug in couple days

[balmy shore]

hell yea except thursdays are our second raid day LOL

off anyway :3

[chrome plover]

oh

we killed on our first raid night last reset

[balmy shore]

idk if we are or not i know ppl want mounts

[balmy shore]

i think they meant gaming like people played well to stay alive

[coarse nest]

I hope my team reclears gally when we eventually get it down

The mount is so damn cool

[balmy shore]

big head

[coarse nest]

Really don’t want to have to buy it lmao

[chrome plover]

after next week i think reclearing is gonna be piss

[undone flower]

Thx, yes i want it too, I quit my guild if I don’t reclear

[balmy shore]

i want to be a little goblin in a big head

[chrome plover]

we're gonna be doing so much damage

[balmy shore]

was this week still a pain or what i heard oab was still kind of annoying

[remote bobcat]

yea, i don't speak english. I guess there's an alternate understanding of gaming something

[chrome plover]

we killed oab in less pulls than sprocket

mugzee is a bit rougher

i think gally will be fast

[undone flower]

The nerfs made it easy

Easier*

[balmy shore]

oh right

i forgor

[chrome plover]

i tanked 17 tornados in 6 pulls and it felt like they did 0 damage

[balmy shore]

p2 gally doesn’t like

DO ANYTHING

the boss is just THERE

and then he just dies???

[coarse nest]

OAB felt pretty straight forward full Zug start to finish the only catch was hard focusing the 5th (I think) add set and then pushing boss right before 6th spawns

[balmy shore]

oo

[hardy cargo]

well hes fat so it makes sense...

[spark pelican]

How viable is slayer for M+? Currently doing 13s trying to convince myself slayer is good (because I big pref it)

[balmy shore]

i know but wow probably the easiest end boss in a while

[chrome plover]

still worse than thane, which is still worse than just switching to arms

[remote bobcat]

isnt the entire p2 just learning how to juggle soaks and having good bomb holders?

with some small dodging ofc

[spark pelican]

Yeah but then I need to change all my gear to heavy crit and I’m coping on fury

[balmy shore]

yeah having good bomb holders is def key

raid should already be split for soaks and dodge and ur good

[undone flower]

I feel it’s an heroic phase with the caviat is the bomb holders wipes you

[chrome plover]

nah arms doesnt really care that much about secondaries

haste/mast still good for arms

[balmy shore]

we had like 5 ppl dead on our kill

[remote bobcat]

lol

end boss btw

[chrome plover]

I have a myth crit/mast ring that i swap circlet for when i play arms but that's it

[undone flower]

But fun boss ?

[spark pelican]

Oh that’s sick - slayer arms tho?

[balmy shore]

ya mugzee and gally are both fun

oab is the devil

[undone flower]

Fuck bandit

[chrome plover]

i think colossus is still better in keys....

[spark pelican]

I just wanna be a beyblade

[undone flower]

Sprocket gold boss

[chrome plover]

idk how slayer arms compares to fury, but it's probably better

[gilded pawn]

hof is closed right

[chrome plover]

theoretically yes

[remote bobcat]

yes, but some report still getting it

[balmy shore]

wait we didn’t get it

[chrome plover]

people are receiving it that killed gally last week but only killed oab/mugzee this week

I've yet to see proof of someone getting it this week after their first gally kill

we got it yesterday after reclearing bandit (we hadn't killed it since they fixed/changed(broke) hof)

[balmy shore]

oh isn’t it that thing where they did hof weird where you had to rekill oab and mugzee but guilds couldn’t go back bc they had already killed it

like if you were supposed to get hof you got on reclear

[chrome plover]

because like 2-3 guilds bought a gallywix lockout for 80m gold to "secure" hof, blizzard decided to force you to kill oab and mugzee to get hof

[balmy shore]

yeah

i would be surprised if any guild that didn’t kill gallywix last week got hof

[chrome plover]

but nothing worked properly so any guild that killed oab/mugzee before the change basically didnt count as having killed those bosses

[valid trellis]

Yeah I can stream when I will log on again ! Nice to see a fellow french warrior around here 😁

[chrome plover]

and then hof closed this week, but we still got the achievement after killing oab for the 2nd time (first time since change)

(a few hours after raid was when we actually got the achievement, so maybe it had nothing to do with reclearing)

idk honestly shits fucked

300+ guilds have it now im pretty sure