thats a no bud
#fury
smoky vale
young swan
ur just arguing in bad faith cause u think people have a vendetta against hekili
summer quail
It is true. Like as fury for mugzee to parse you ignore cages
clever belfry
ur just arguing in bad faith cause u think people have a vendetta against hekili
i do!!!!!!
summer quail
Ofc not
gleaming siren
Don't ask what happened to Schmidilock on the 4th of May 2025
(He played like a dog)
warm crag
2000 dps on cauldron
smoky vale
i do!!!!!!
did you do bombs on gallywix
clever belfry
Don't ask what happened to Schmidilock on the 4th of May 2025
schmeowdi reroll when
white rampart
ur just arguing in bad faith cause u think people have a vendetta against hekili
so far you have not have to provided anything substantial agasinst hekili and just i am just pointing that out
wild anvil
you have to remember too, they could be getting PI. They can have the perfect raid comp for their warrior. There is a lot that goes into being top X warrior.
clever belfry
did you do bombs on gallywix
no, never
junior gale
so far you have not have to provided anything substantial agasinst hekili and ju...
Hekili aint gonna fuck you bro
smoky vale
Did any of you stay in cages during mugzee
junior gale
smoky vale
no
young swan
so far you have not have to provided anything substantial agasinst hekili and ju...
theres a million niche situations where hekili will just be worse, i cant point out all of them
gleaming siren
Of course?
wild anvil
yes im forced to cage...
wild anvil
Do we do coins, no that is ranged job
gleaming siren
I did actually
balmy gate
you have to remember too, they could be getting PI. They can have the perfect ra...
Ty!
gleaming siren
Smh Gio57
clever belfry
did any of you do coins on oab
i did all missbaited coins
gleaming siren
I kick the coins that are bad
warm crag
so far you have not have to provided anything substantial agasinst hekili and ju...
You are engaging with every bad faith argument under the sun and dismissing every genuine argument made king24
gleaming siren
Ye
clever belfry
and i did cage on mugzee
smoky vale
and i did cage on mugzee
did the parse evaporate
junior gale
hey man I put all the tokens in the boss im doing my part on OAB!
clever belfry
did the parse evaporate
brother i healed
gleaming siren
Like.. just be a normal raider and help your guild kill the boss?
clever belfry
mw man
smoky vale
brother i healed
gleaming siren
Ok
white rampart
theres a million niche situations where hekili will just be worse, i cant point ...
for fury warrior, it adapts pretty well and like i said you can parse up to 99 with it. if, according to you, there are million niche sitautions that make hekili worse then how are people achieving this? you got something else? because you have not been able to provide anything
gleaming siren
cause im not dogshit and i can do more than just hit a target dummy
Thanks holy cat pfp man
warm crag
Like.. just be a normal raider and help your guild kill the boss?
Ok but ur doing this to a ridiculous degree
smoky vale
(i did the same and got my guild the kill on sprocket those who know)
wild anvil
@balmy gate sent a dm if you wanted to talk about logs and stuff more.
gleaming siren
I don't think so
young swan
for fury warrior, it adapts pretty well and like i said you can parse up to 99 w...
because performing the rotation at a base correct level is enough to parse 99 on heroic difficulty
warm crag
I don't think so
You did every bomb on hc gallywix on a warrior
gleaming siren
Because it helped us kill the bossa
warm crag
Because it helped us kill the bossa
On a warrior
gleaming siren
🤷♂️
smoky vale
On a warrior
should have played mage
gleaming siren
I leap
smoky vale
or evoker
gleaming siren
Evoker is stupid
white rampart
because performing the rotation at a base correct level is enough to parse 99 on...
i am sorry but you can easily parse 95~97 on mythic as well lmao
warm crag
There is a Limit to what you should do as an Individual to help the group
smoky vale
🐉 🔥
young swan
but there are situations that hekili just wont account for because the apl cant account for them either
like cd timings on cauldron
hekili wont tell you to pop avatar 10 seconds pre pull
white rampart
like cd timings on cauldron
that's why i said you need to know cd timings and positioning yourself and using hekili to supplement that to parse well even on mythic
warm crag
i will manually add this to the eval tree
If in combat against gallywix u should drop the bf condition true
young swan
hekili wont tell you to press bladestorm if you have 3 mfe stacks avail instead of waiting for reck
clever belfry
If in combat against gallywix u should drop the bf condition true
if in deez
smoky vale
hekili wont tell you to press bladestorm if you have 3 mfe stacks avail instead ...
but my jug
clever belfry
hekili wont tell you to press bladestorm if you have 3 mfe stacks avail instead ...
another fake conditional just dropped
young swan
hekili wont tell u to slam rampage when adds are dying to maximize war machine procs
young swan
another fake conditional just dropped
its real!
warm crag
Optimizing ovinax for bossdamage sounds like hell with heikili
clever belfry
i know
but its not real for almost any player
and most people attempting it will lose dps
:3
young swan
theres like 1 million things that hekili wont tell you to do, that doesnt mean its bad, it just means its not suitable for trying to optimize your damage
clever belfry
🛑
white rampart
hekili wont tell u to slam rampage when adds are dying to maximize war machine p...
this is true if you are assuming all hekili players are too lazy to read their own talents and skills
young swan
this is true if you are assuming all hekili players are too lazy to read their o...
90% of them are
thats why they got hekili
nothing wrong with that
clever belfry
get kebab tdy
my kebab place is closed Mondays
gleaming siren
Wtf
smoky vale
gleaming siren
Let's get Aldi Döner anda
warm crag
I will lose DPS by playing like a trashcan instead tyvm
Do i play arms for all next wed
clever belfry
Yeah they hate Monday wcyd
warm crag
Hmmge
smoky vale
Do i play arms for all next wed
yes
clever belfry
Let's get Aldi Döner anda
when
gleaming siren
Idk if you want to
smoky vale
fury sucks
gleaming siren
F
clever belfry
Do i play arms for all next wed
makes a good first impression
gleaming siren
I will buy @oblique trail a Döner
warm crag
True
smoky vale
oh nah
gleaming siren
If he ever visits!
smoky vale
do not play arms on trial
clever belfry
If he ever visits!
this was out of context joke
smoky vale
maybe mug
warm crag
Arms is just better for most bosses no
gleaming siren
It's real
clever belfry
most?
smoky vale
surely arms is better on vexie for kill time
warm crag
Cauldron sprocket oab mug gally is most bosses ya
clever belfry
i dont buy sprocket still
young swan
i dont think arms is better on sprocky
clever belfry
nor gally
warm crag
I dont have fury jewely
warm crag
yeah and if even just play the spec with inf free living instead
Press spellreflect for the first time this tier
clever belfry
I have pressed 1 or 2
warm crag
Maybe press 3 to charge
warm crag
What happens if u need a tall leap
gleaming siren
What happens if u need a tall leap
I double press Space?
gleaming siren
Like it's really not that bad
warm crag
You died gg
clever belfry
leap is shift 3
no
clever belfry
silence gala57
gleaming siren
Okay bud
smoky vale
stance swap is shift 4
gleaming siren
Too slow when my actuation point is at 0.05mm
warm crag
I used to have shift 3 leap but then i hit 2 hours of playtime
smoky vale
meld is shift 5
clever belfry
those are not gr8
warm crag
Too slow when my actuation point is at 0.05mm
I win due to the insane constraints of my made up scenario
clever belfry
but better than leap shift 3
gleaming siren
Elaborate on deez
smoky vale
^
clever belfry
Elaborate on deez
nyo thwanks :33
smoky vale
combust @clever belfry
gleaming siren
Andalf?
warm crag
Shift 4 dstance is just ass tho
clever belfry
combust <@173741974493462528>
no pants equipped
smoky vale
Shift 4 dstance is just ass tho
nah it owns
clever belfry
L
smoky vale
no pants equipped
play pants arms like a 
smoky vale
rampage is on q
smoky vale
r is interact
warm crag
R for rxecute
smoky vale
R for rxecute
guess
warm crag
B for bloodthirst
smoky vale
1
unreal onyx
R for recklessness
gleaming siren
I've been thinking of reshuffling some Fury keybinds so Spongie wouldn't flame me anymore...
smoky vale
show pics
warm crag
I've been thinking of reshuffling some Fury keybinds so Spongie wouldn't flame m...
I have never flamed you in my life
smoky vale
I have never flamed you in my life
hi
warm crag
Only when you claimed you got 0 loot and then proceed to outsim me by 50k for the rest of the tier
gleaming siren
You keep bringing this up to try to gaslight me
smoky vale
or get fed gear like @ebon junco
gleaming siren
I vaulted 3 high stat tier pieces in 4 weeks wcyd
junior gale
clever belfry
warm crag
You keep bringing this up to try to gaslight me
Drop your sim right now and explain the 50k discrepancy
clever belfry
skill diff
warm crag
This is true
gleaming siren
Drop your sim right now and explain the 50k discrepancy
No
gleaming siren
I had my first (alt-)raid yesterday (i played like shit)
modest hollow
any1 heard of Streamer mode on the Details! addon?
plush zephyr
I've been thinking of reshuffling some Fury keybinds so Spongie wouldn't flame m...
That was me
smoky vale
oh shit
warm crag
<@164800371057754112> https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/sWSP58b5FpnCW8kY6SK...
I sim 2.58
ebon junco
@smoky vale fk u
smoky vale
<@335579026259312641> fk u
gm tmy :3
ebon junco
or get fed gear like <@205978162293768192>
Never fed
smoky vale
Never fed
are uou winning in tft
i heard the patch was stale bc lobbies would spam 2 comps
junior gale
675 gang
ebon junco
676
junior gale
pure breach
morning !!!!!!
junior gale
I have a ring holding me back fuckin heroic cauldron ring
smoky vale
do i say it
eager thorn
I’m only 672 
high basin
671 gang
dense elbow
672, but no raid, so can't complain 
flat river
im also 672
high basin
i killed the last boss as 671
flat river
gallywix?
high basin
yeah
flat river
mythic?
high basin
y
high basin
lol
flat river
jk
remote bobcat
can i like rerun the raid and kill bandit with u guys 👀
you greedy bastard go kill sprocketr first
flat river
unless... 👀
👉 👈
flat river
you greedy bastard go kill sprocketr first
i was joking xd
gleaming siren
Stronkmon go prog
flat river
i cant my shoulder is cracked
clever belfry
@gleaming siren meow
gleaming siren
@clever belfry meowdy
forest owl
do you guys hard swap goblins on mythic bandit and just rampage boss to maintain frenzy stacks?
flat river
i dont swap targets to interrupt in mythic+ what makes you think im swapping targets in raid
forest owl
im trying to workout how much of a damage loss it is to switch goblins all the time and just fullon dps it and cleave onto boss without caring about frenzy stacks, i know i could maybe just switch to boss to rampage when i need to, to maintain stacks but that sounds annoying
hardy bluff
do you guys hard swap goblins on mythic bandit and just rampage boss to maintain...
boss damage doesnt matter
you will hold damage
if adds dont die you will wipe
junior gale
if your progging hard swap to adds always
dont troll your guild for your parse min max
forest owl
i have no problem switching, i was hard swapping then stopped cuz it looked like they were getting nuked at times, now im being told to switch full back again. it just doesnt seem worth dropping stacks for a add that lives for 5s
solemn plover
Honestly, Ive ran some numbers and I genuinely believe holding charge is smarter on certain fights
hardy bluff
i have no problem switching, i was hard swapping then stopped cuz it looked like...
thats the eternal cycle
people swap and it dies fast -> then people swap off and dies slow again
forest owl
nvm i'll just main target and rampage boss when needed.
clever belfry
Honestly, Ive ran some numbers and I genuinely believe holding charge is smarter...
ure a waste of discord bandwidth
solemn plover
ure a waste of discord bandwidth
Found the charger
junior gale
i have no problem switching, i was hard swapping then stopped cuz it looked like...
again if your progging just kill the adds its not a big deal boss dmg genuinely doesnt really matter on that fight unless your trying to push at a certain timing
solemn plover
Guy who opens with charge be like
undone flower
do you guys hard swap goblins on mythic bandit and just rampage boss to maintain...
Yes, and I charge insta when they spawn / we move, yes it means I’m ST hitting 1 add for few sec, but I wipe if they don’t die
plush maple
broken sinew
for the upcoming class tuning any fury war build affected?
dense elbow
Well, this build will be 4.5% (down from 7%) stronger, for what that is worth
If you include the AP% dam, I am top DPS 
sour tundra
when are they going to uncap crests
dense elbow
Next patch
fading sky
If you include the AP% dam, I am top DPS <:copium:839076283467431956>
Also add u using 2 big sticks u are winnin allready
ornate gust
are we going to have 1 catalyst next reset?
hardy bluff
next week is craft
ornate gust
next week is craft
so no catalyst charge?
junior gale
pretty sure its 1 cata charge every week now
dont @ me if you dont get one tho tomorrow or wednesday
ornate gust
@junior gale noted 😄
earnest aspen
yall use @cursor for ravager with reck right ?
junior gale
I manually click ravager 🙂
modest hollow
Does any1 know about streamer mode on details! addon?
clever belfry
i think a lot of people know about it
but with a question this vague no one can even begin to help you
sour frigate
@smoky vale this u?
junior gale
No that's the leader of Team Rocket
clever belfry
gio57 again
warm crag
interesting
flat river
shh
noble elm
when are they going to uncap crests
When are they gonna uncap meat cleaver
The real questions
quiet geyser
junior gale
Check back in 11.2 and if it didn't happen then check back in 11.3. Keep repeating till meatcleaver is no longer hard capped.
vague sierra
Just rename meat cleaver to butter knife and get it over with.
warm crag
just go play outlaw rogue or lol
dense elbow
Those who dont think it just going to be "fixed" by another RB/BT/Ramp +20% buff, are crazy. It is the new 3% aura
noble elm
8 + softcap would be nice but let’s be honest if we’re living in a world with boomkins, uh dks, and mm hunters - does it need to be capped?
Maybe it does, but I just don’t see it
dense elbow
Need is a strong word, but I rather our AoE dps profile not be put into the flat part of it
rather I want to see it be balanced out with our CDs
We already superflat
fair wolf
When have we corruptions available?
dense elbow
End of the month or something
who knows
Ya want that little stat proc?
Wonder if Twilight Dev would be more fun, if they reduced the PPM by 10x, but 10x the damage, also just made it uncapped dam
giving that high dopamine moment
Guess it would be toxic in raid, for logs or something
vague sierra
It'd be toxic in keys. Charge-twilight dev-die, key bricked go next.
dense elbow
Ya say that as if we would out DPS the instant explosive shot either way that already MD
sour frigate
8 + softcap would be nice but let’s be honest if we’re living in a world with bo...
mm is capped
mostly
noble elm
Mm is functionally uncapped with their tier bonus
noble elm
I would not be shocked because I’m in a dungeon right now bursting 30m dps with lock n load procs
noble elm
I said functionally uncapped, if I do 300% damage to 5 targets there’s no diff than me doing 100% to 15 targets
Or something like that math
sour frigate
🤓
noble elm
Yeah give me a tier proc that sends an execute on 5 targets for 10m damage each I’ll take it lol
The real joke on mm is going to be next tier when they no longer have that bonus and they fall off hard in m+
sour frigate
Yeah give me a tier proc that sends an execute on 5 targets for 10m damage each ...
arms had it df s3 😎
flat river
I wish we could do 300% to 5 targets
i wish we could actually execute targets 
rain thicket
so can w e somehow say that slayer arms aoe gets a bit better then before for m+
if we play slayer fury in keys, isnt it good to play slayer because of uncapped aoe damage from Reap and Bladestorm?
sour frigate
junior gale
It's a numbers game and thane simply does more numbers
junior gale
It ain't that complicated
dense elbow
is 0
dense elbow
If they throw on another 50% on Bladestorm, and 125% on Odyn's, then we starting to talk
if we cant get that, just pray for more 20%+ on RB/Ramp/BT
junior gale
Slayer on reset will do slightly more dmg than Slayer before reset tada
rain thicket
its kinda sad that warrior not only numbers are bad, also the charackter design. Tons of Dead Talents in tree
dense elbow
About 5% more DPS, 7% if you minmax for reap procs. You still 10-15% behind Thane
coarse nest
I don’t understand why we only got 1.7% ST from Bladestorm and reap buffs when we’re already decently behind most specs in the raid
coarse nest
If they’re making a tuning pass wouldn’t you think they’d atleast try to get us to middle upper pack? Otherwise why bother
dense elbow
It is consistent, if you dont mind it not hitting when it is the most impactful
junior gale
I don’t understand why we only got 1.7% ST from Bladestorm and reap buffs when w...
Probably because the warrior tuning was meant for M+ not raid. Hence the buff too slayers AOE abilities not ST
coarse nest
Fair enough if that’s the case sure, it didn’t make slayer any more of a consideration though
Kinda sadge ngl slayer fury with of in season one was a fun and easy build to play
junior gale
I mean it closed the gap more than what it was before which is kind of the point. Same with ret pally herald of the sun buffs. I don't think the intent was to make Slayer the go-to over thane
forest tapir
For those who are german (well and everybody else), please report this guy and downvote the shit out of him. He is selling '1click' macros (over 7€ ea) which are nothing more than dumb castsequence macros.
forest tapir
His Business is obsolete next Patch
No cause his "OP macros" don't have the 0.3 sec penalty.
remote bobcat
I doubt anyone is stupid enough to buy that shit
people are definitely stupid enough.
forest tapir
I doubt anyone is stupid enough to buy that shit
Then read the comments pls
remote bobcat
Then fuck em
or protect them
forest tapir
or protect them
Yes. Comment the vid, report and downvote.
Everyone here should have these 2 min.
eternal sundial
or protect them
If ur that dumb idgaf
fickle cedar
For those who are german (well and everybody else), please report this guy and d...
ai slop thumbnail too 
wooden lagoon
everyone playing thane on mugzee still aftert the bs buff?
eternal sundial
I am not giving that shit any click
fickle cedar
everyone playing thane on mugzee still aftert the bs buff?
you mean one armed bandit ? mugzee is a slayer boss
wooden lagoon
yeah sorry one armed
just about to start one armed this week
wondering if i go arms prio boss damage at this poiint
or play fury thane
eternal sundial
Give it some pulls start fury imo
fickle cedar
i suppose it depends on what your guild struggles on, but you should be fine either way
wooden lagoon
i mean if were getting to one armed now we struggle with everything then no ? lol shotttssss lol but yeah prob just start fury see what happens
radiant plank
I am not giving that shit any click
clicked it twice for you
remote bobcat
i mean if were getting to one armed now we struggle with everything then no ? lo...
slayer arms for more boss dam, colo arms for big add dam, thane fury for small add dam
..or just play what you are most comfortable with
noble elm
I haven’t played a ton of fury this tier but on the mythic fights I am dpsing it feels like brain load on fury is much higher than it was before
is there a lot of decision making in the rotation based on rage and procs or am I overthinking it
Like do I send sudden death or wait for marked to stack, is the proc about to fall off, do I need to rampage to keep engage up, bloodthirst crit so now I can raging instead of ramp because I’m not over capped etc
dense elbow
You are overthinking it, just ignore BT other when WA says it got 92% crit, and you basically spamming RB. Then you use execute when the addon makes a sound.
noble elm
Ok so my initial thought was right, ramp to not overcap, execute on marked stacks, and bt when crit is stacked otherwise full send rb
Last tier I full dpsed was Amirdrassil so bonus anger management feels a lot better than its counterpart
smoky vale
<@335579026259312641> this u?
nope
eternal sundial
It won’t be long before a healer quits and I’m back in jail
dont swap back
clever belfry
?
oblique trail
unaware of lore
eternal sundial
oblique trail
anballsda
smoky vale
how could i have done that if i was asleep
clever belfry
sure thing buddy
smoky vale
im not him
fickle cedar
is outlaw op rn in m+ ? heard it got super strong after a bug fix or something
smoky vale
fuck you @clever belfry
clever belfry
fuck you <@173741974493462528>
Mad
candid oasis
is outlaw op rn in m+ ? heard it got super strong after a bug fix or something
It is amazing after bug fixes
fickle cedar
It is amazing after bug fixes
nicee, might level one up, looks fun
clever belfry
yeah i dont like the bit
Yeah that just makes it funnier
candid oasis
Yeah, killing spree is an issue, but dmg is awesome if ks dont kill you
plush maple
embrace it
burnt kelp
remote bobcat
does anyone know the dps difference of caring for ashen juggernaut vs not caring for ashen juggernaut?
dense elbow
I am not going crazy?
On 5t:
Raging Blow does 3.9 mill dam +20% of a ramp (600k), so 4.4m
Bloodthirst does 2.1m, reap does 2.5m, gushing does 250k, so 4.8
If reap fails, it is 2.4m vs 4.4m
Reap can fail to proc. So the right choice is to just ignore BT, yeah? 
remote bobcat
I am not going crazy?
On 5t:
Raging Blow does 3.9 mill dam +20% of a ramp (600...
with what
build
dense elbow
Slayer? =_=
junior gale
i am not that guy
remote bobcat
Slayer? =_=
there are multiple slayer builds
dense elbow
The Funky build? What talent you wondering about
You gonna be like "if in VC range", then no need
remote bobcat
No
dense elbow
remote bobcat
RB is dummy powerful if you have all the RB nodes
so im curious what build you're using
what nodes you have
dense elbow
So in the scenario as mentioned, ya skip?
remote bobcat
i think I'd still prio bt
if i was running slayer
in m+
but only because i know you cant perma BT, you have to RB a bit anyway
based on the cooldown right
but imma be real i have no idea, i dont touch slayer in m+
smoky vale
Yeah that just makes it funnier
😦
oblique trail
@clever belfry 
stuck jay
Hello everyone, new of this patch Sorry for the stupid question but Is It Better arms or Fury right now? I saw that Fury has more sustained aoe dmg but then i see a lot more arms Warrior in keys for example, thank you
frank dawn
Arms will generally do more damage in keys right now
dense elbow
Having an edge on sustained AoE on sims, doesnt matter at all if the trash gets blown up in chunk periods of time.
In general, I would just say arms is better. At least it got more overall. But, fury does have the edge on killing bosses, bosses gotta die.
So, chose your poison
stuck jay
Having an edge on sustained AoE on sims, doesnt matter at all if the trash gets ...
So Fury Is Better in single target and being tankier only?
dense elbow
It plays smoother, and is generally more liked - if that is worth anything
frank dawn
but from a numbers perspective, yap that's about it lol
stuck jay
Oh ok, but considering bosses if we suppose that during the fight someone dies and then execute phase last longer then arms Is Better also in single target, no?
exotic gazelle
with tomorrow's update will the aoe change?
dense elbow
Fury does amp fine with execute dam too, so dont worry about that.
No, Cera, nothing changes
If you played Slayer, you will see a very minor dam bump
stuck jay
Execute phase of Fury ad arms are equivalent in terms of dps increase?
dense elbow
It is a 4-5% damage amp for me tho, so I take it
yay
Arms got more execute potential, but in a key enviroment, dont worry about it
frank dawn
looking at only our spec the Bladestorm/Reap buffs are pretty solid imo
Just Fury overall still exceptionally meh
dense elbow
If you struggling in execute phase, the key is already dead
near wing
Does fury even have an execute phase? Like I don’t press any different buttons. Just RB/Ramp and then BT when I hear the Kaching.
dense elbow
30% on low dam abilites, is pretty meh
Guess you can call em "big dam", if you take and look it from a Fury only perspective tho
We get more damge from VC in execute phase, and we press Execute more, that is about it.
frank dawn
yeah I just meant that where it leaves Slayer vs Thane tomorrow is a decent place. But Fury could still use overall love somehow
dense elbow
Nah, it doesnt
near wing
Fury has been pretty frustrating this season. I measure the success of a key based on my position on dps meter. If I’m first, I know it’s a bad key.
dense elbow
Thane is still 10% or so head
If you are first as Fury, tell the others to stop playing WoW
near wing
We get more damge from VC in execute phase, and we press Execute more, that is a...
Wait, you actually push execute as mountain thane in keys?
dense elbow
Nah, doubt ya do
crude ridge
no not really
near wing
Ok ok was getting confused for sec, thought I’ve been doing something wrong lol
near wing
Ohhh gotcha lol
crude ridge
you really only press execute as thane when there is nothing else really to do
near wing
It’s sad, regular pulls, I am still bottom dps but I’m close. But big pulls, I’m below by like 5-7mm
So by end, usually 1mm lower
frank dawn
I mean fury just has a straight dog shit toolkit right now for the kind of pulls we're doing in M+ this season
dense elbow
People do 10-15m, we do around 5-7m
dense elbow
Our CDs matter for squat
near wing
Exactly
dense elbow
Man I am dooming too hard, time to eat
near wing
That’s why I say regular
crude ridge
go doom your food
near wing
It’s been hard to get into 13/14s. 12 points off from 3k, just need to run my own keys and hope people sign up
dense elbow
You got it, we believe in ya - just drop the idea of getting into a 14 tho
crude ridge
I get 10s and call it a day
near wing
Hahaha , I just want 3k and I’ll go back to just doing my 10s for the week
crude ridge
when fury isn't ass in keys is when I'll push
dense elbow
Historically speaking, you wont ever get to push
crude ridge
exactly
frank dawn
lol, tru tho
dense elbow
Just get a premade going, with people who dont mind carrying your slack, and you guchi
undone flower
Historically speaking, you wont ever get to push
I push ur mom
near wing
One day guys, come on
dense elbow
I push ur mom
storm birch
Tell me how I’m doing my last 14 on meadery right.. hunter baits a bad hopgoblin charge to narnia and gets hit and dies then too many cinderbrew bombs spawn and we wipe.. ok fair enough was smooth but we just run it back cause the guy has resilience 14’s. Walk into the reset and unholy dk body pulls the left pack and we wipe. People leave. VDH messages me and asks why I’m trolling and not playing arms. Why tf is he messaging me lmao
Says I make the key hard playing fury. Bruh neither key brick had anything to do with me 🤣
So frustrating
frank dawn
if you had been arms the other players would clearly have played better
but since you were trolling they thought they had to also
storm birch
Silly me
Guy was a 3400 io alt too. He should know literally any spec can time a 14 anyway they’re not hard.
dense elbow
Last DH I played with, asked me to kill myself.
The one before that did complain, but didnt go as far.
warm crag
Last DH I played with, asked me to kill myself.
did u report
dense elbow
yep
dense elbow
I am getting those kind of whispers a lot lately. As the groups fall apart before any single target bosses. So I am just a chunk behind.
I just report now tho, I dont even try to be understanding of it. I am just tired of that.
edgy widget
Says I make the key hard playing fury. Bruh neither key brick had anything to do...
Welcome to the internet where people always make excuses for everything but themselves!
plush zephyr
Tbh i tend to join phys comp grps
If I’m pugging, ya, looking for phys groups only and I’m pretty strict on letting ranged in on my groups lol
fast mural
Tbh i tend to join phys comp grps
imagine if there was a "has bloodlust" checkbox in the filter tho
plush zephyr
Says I make the key hard playing fury. Bruh neither key brick had anything to do...
Fuck that guy. You own for running it back. Everyone else sucks and literally wasted almost an hour for nothing.
Idiots
fast mural
If I’m pugging, ya, looking for phys groups only and I’m pretty strict on lettin...
nah melee only groups mean melees have to deal with ranged mechanics they likely never had to deal with
so dont take mistweaver
dense elbow
Ya do know MM hunter is Physical, ye?
plush zephyr
I did ya:)
fading sky
I take mm hunter
fading sky
Good at chores🤣
dense elbow
Always bring MM hunter, big dam, and missdirect
plush zephyr
If I ever fully switch to another class, it’ll be Hunter
But, fuck that
I hate myself and like warrior too much
dense elbow
Why would they nerf MM? It got equal DPS to Fury on ST, and it got insane good Burst AoE... wait, is MM hunter... what Fury used to be?
Even got the 5t cap on its rotationals on AoE
deft vessel
are yall running crit or mastery flasks? im at 50% mast with no flasj
radiant plank
Chaos flask
frank dawn
Even got the 5t cap on its rotationals on AoE
except they actually get to hit 6 targets, and explosive shot actually does dam unlike OF and the like
dense elbow
My god, explosive shot even does fire damage
They took my Fury buffs and gave them all to MM!
deft vessel
Chaos flask
that the crit one?
fast mural
its the random one
dense elbow
It is the one that swaps
fast mural
- the orange one
frank dawn
it is a bit of a head scratcher lol. Like MM has the same cleave mechanic as us, but get to hit 1 extra target at a higher damage percent. Then their uncapped abilities with cooldowns are way stronger than ours lol
fast mural
damn you guys are still recovering from S1 ?
dense elbow
Never recowered from the beta
frank dawn
recovering from Nerubar fucking dumb ass adds Palace you mean
fast mural
must suck to be a fury only player
dense elbow
I am not so hip and hoppity chop; I am currently doing Cyber Punk: Phantom Liberty
woven valley
I’ve been playing khezan the first berserker a lot
Game has some bad timings in it but otherwise is a super solid souls like
whole yacht
I’ve been playing khezan the first berserker a lot
also a good game
i agree it has some bad timing windows tho
pure breach
Expedition 33
Its that really good like they are saying?
frank dawn
Its that really good like they are saying?
Yep, I think it is tremendous
feral ivy
dinars is next week right? not this week??
feral ivy
whats corruptions did i miss somethiong
whole yacht
The corruption from bfa are coming back. But slightly different?/weaker
coarse nest
Helm enchant passive damage
edgy widget
whats corruptions did i miss somethiong
feral ivy
oh yea completly forgot about that
was confused about the dinars next week vs tomorrow was because of the chips we getting tomorrow .. but thats just transmogs
pure breach
Yep, I think it is tremendous
Gonna give it a try
whole yacht
Yep, I think it is tremendous
I agree so hard. How far are you? Have you beaten it?
earnest canyon
dinars is next week right? not this week??
I have me dinar everyday. Me mam cooks it
fading sky
Wait so enchant when?
frank dawn
I agree so hard. How far are you? Have you beaten it?
I'm in the final act, haven't quite finished. Been roaming the world a bit and seeing what's out there
whole yacht
I'm in the final act, haven't quite finished. Been roaming the world a bit and s...
Word. I'm in act 2. Only like 30 hours in. Been roaming around exploring a lot too. And I spent far too long trying to kill something that 6 hits of 9999 didn't even scratch the healthbar
frank dawn
yeah, like in theory you can beat some of that stuff because of the parry system
buuuuuuut, finish act 2
things will get easier lol, due to some unlocks you get
marble pilot
We getting anything this week? Content wise?
junior gale
nope
marble pilot
Next week is some stuff though right?
junior gale
nope
marble pilot
I though visons or something was the 13th
junior gale
visions aint till the 20th
marble pilot
Lame. So 2 more weeks of keys and leveling alts. Not even good galigo rep stuff
frank dawn
We getting anything this week? Content wise?
huge buffs m8, tomorrow
absolutely massive
fury is saved
marble pilot
No one cares about bladestorm
frank dawn
I...I...care...
marble pilot
Ok no one cares about bladestorm in its current state
dense elbow
junior gale
marble pilot
Would be nice to get some kinda of m+ buff. Ive heard lots of things and any of them are fine. Target caps, changing improved WW cleave%, making the cds better.
frank dawn
yeah idk, like just buff Thunderblast and OF call it a day. I dont' think you can buff OF enough to make Thane actually want it but Thunderblast would do the job for Thane while OF would help Slayer be playable combined with the Bladestorm buff
stark flower
I just wanna zug real good is that too much to ask for?
marble pilot
I dont even care if they keep us at 5 targets. They could make improved WW do like 80% instead of 55% and that would be a ton.
I would prefer some kind of uncapped aoe cd change. But there are a lot of things they could do
Makes the most sense to me though to either make the cds not suck or to make thunderblast/bladestorm better
marble pilot
5% aoe buff and 1.7% st from what the updates said
frank dawn
yeh void ritual was the OP one
marble pilot
it isnt that much
frank dawn
it isnt that much
for one single spell, that's pretty significant. To be clear, I think both fury specs need something besides that
but Bladestorm, on its own, is going to be a powerful button
marble pilot
Its decent. But mostly ill feel it on pure st in raid. Not good enough to make me play slayer over thane in aoe. Which use ravager
frank dawn
Yeah, I mean it's for sure kind of worthless for M+ because 99% sure Thane is still the play there
but it is kind of nice for those who just prefer to play Slayer you can do so now without feeling like a complete troll
even if playing fury to begin with is complete troll...
but...you know
marble pilot
Yeah. I prefer Thane. Its more fun to me. Feels like WC3 mountain thane which was good fun. If anything id like to be able to play thane in raid more without feeling like im nerfing myself
frank dawn
yeah for sure. I don't envy the balancing work, BUT it would be nice if the specs were more competitive in both raid and M+ so you could feel more free to play the one you prefer
frank dawn
they're all kind of super close to each other now tho, no?
void ritual maybe still a bit OP in aoe
whole yacht
things will get easier lol, due to some unlocks you get
i know about the one unlock that breaks the cap of 9999 dmg
thatll definitely help a lot
frank dawn
yeah, huge damage increase at that point in general
still a lot of thicc mobs out there though haha
fair wolf
do you know guys what is the max level of the raid rep this week?
smoky vale
like 10 or something
hi
storm birch
Welcome to the internet where people always make excuses for everything but them...
Forreal. I responded to his dm calling me out by saying “neither brick had anything to do with me I’m confused why you’re messaging me for the spec I’m playing” and he said I just don’t get why you wouldn’t play the spec that is good why are you so upset .. ??? Like what haha
storm birch
Fuck that guy. You own for running it back. Everyone else sucks and literally wa...
I stand strong on sticking to fury. I just love it. Unfortunate it went the way it did won’t change a thing for me
edgy widget
people just like to look for something to blame shit on
nothin you can do about it unfort
storm birch
Yea for sure . My resil 14 will come eventually :’)
earnest canyon
Its that really good like they are saying?
Before I had to go to the hospital I was really enjoying it. Just came outta nowhere
Wow, gg discord I replied to a message from 10 years ago
slim coral
so whens the warrior mid-expansion retrospective going live 
junior gale
that would indeed be the Blizzard interpretation
undone flower
It needs to cleave 20 targets at 110% RIGHT NOW
sly crane
uncap it
undone flower
I think 8 would be broken, I want that yes
60% more AoE dps increase in my keys YAS
slim coral
How would 8 be broken?
junior gale
because its bigger than 5
slim coral
There’s dk literally gapping everyone
dense elbow
Ye, but we got prio damage
What if they just made meatcleaver stronger the more targets? 55% on two, then 100% on 5
undone flower
It will not come from meat cleave % buffs, bc raid tuning
dense elbow
True, would be a shame if the 5t capped spec dominated 5t
undone flower
Maybe a small but not that helpful to m+ overalls
dense elbow
Meh, easiest fix is just to up damage on Roar. It is a long and boring DoT, so it is safe for raid
undone flower
I just imagine a world I cleave at 100% on 5 targets my 2m+ dps
slim coral
Or they could just make it 8 targets
inner zinc
Or they could just make it 8 targets
agreed. 8 target at 100%
undone flower
20 at 110%
modest condor
square root scaling past 8
inner zinc
20 at 110%
you drive a hard bargain
heavy flax
they should try something new and cap it at 27
remote bobcat
square root scaling past 8
i feel like that shii will never happen, no matter what
slim coral
square root scaling past 8
Fuck it let’s do it
dense elbow
I just don't get why everyone want our AoE to be flat
undone flower
you drive a hard bargain
You have to experience the moment cleaving the boss does more damage on the boss once
remote bobcat
I just don't get why everyone want our AoE to be flat <:sadge:820202363359854633...
its more that we understand how problematic a higher burst profile is
dense elbow
Flat is boring
clever belfry
square root scaling past 8
undone flower
It’s the 1 gcd burst profile the issue, TT doesn’t exist anymore
inner zinc
neither does OF LMAO
remote bobcat
neither does OF LMAO
skilling into OF does give us more aoe
undone flower
It is still on the tree, not OF-avatar TT
remote bobcat
at the cost of a shitton of single target
dense elbow
Hoy, many in here will say it does good dam. 5% is a lot for the talent investment
remote bobcat
Hoy, many in here will say it does good dam. 5% is a lot for the talent investme...
nah its hella ass
dense elbow
u dont say
Problem is, you guys want flat dam profile, so even 5% on a button is problematic. In your flat world OF should get CDR
Your world sucks
remote bobcat
nah i want to be able to stack OF dmg, even if it means first OF is a wet noodle similar to first BS
inner zinc
well atleast our world still exists, yours got obliterated in S1
remote bobcat
if arms can stack demolish then fury should be able to stack odyns fury
since bladestorm sucks
dense elbow
Stacking BS is the worst function in the game. It is needless and pointless. You always have the buff after the first. It just makes it feel shit when you don't have it for any reason.
Not to mention BS is RNG as fuck in value, thanks to reap
remote bobcat
very true
undone flower
I wonder if we ever gonna take the new TT, since it is griefed by bladestorm I’m wondering how we are supposed to use it
remote bobcat
bro i hit bladestorm full reap procs and all except 1 crit
holy dmg
back in s1
shit was nasty
dense elbow
BS is just sad. Even with the Inc buff, it will be sad
inner zinc
damn id love to play BS instead of Ravager as thane
summer quail
BS is just sad. Even with the Inc buff, it will be sad
i don't think bladestorm will be sad at all with the incoming buff
remote bobcat
damn id love to play BS instead of Ravager as thane
never happening
summer quail
well arms bs will still be
remote bobcat
i don't think bladestorm will be sad at all with the incoming buff
that misses the point of why funky thinks its sad
summer quail
that's fine, i halfway ignore funky anyways
remote bobcat
he doesnt like natty bs without the slayer triple stack
undone flower
I don’t like bladestorm except on ovinax
inner zinc
never happening
i know, but a thane can dream
remote bobcat
that's fine, i halfway ignore funky anyways
nah funky is a for-fun player but his input is valuable. He's one of the first to point out when fury has painpoints in playstyle and how fun something feels
shouldnt dismiss it
even if his input isn't good balance design
undone flower
Fuck funky
remote bobcat
People have different views coming from different perspectives but your view is accurate for the perspective you have, I'd only ever dismiss opinions when they are blatantly wrong compared to the perspective they are arguing from
undone flower
Send me your OF build funky
I think it’s been 6 months I didn’t do a key in slayer
remote bobcat
french warrior switching it up 1 message apart is crazy
wise solar
When you join a random off-meta weekly group and don’t understand what happened at the end (respect to that SH priest lol)
undone flower
I have the joker card : I’m schiz but I don’t like to use it
remote bobcat
When you join a random off-meta weekly group and don’t understand what happened ...
crazy good numbers for a weekly key, good shit
remote bobcat
I have the joker card : I’m schiz but I don’t like to use it
are you schiz because you are french or are you french because you are schiz?
summer quail
nah funky is a for-fun player but his input is valuable. He's one of the first t...
thats why i said "halfway"
undone flower
are you schiz because you are french or are you french because you are schiz?
I want to put my baguette right in your ass
remote bobcat
I want to put my baguette right in your ass
im all for it
quiet breach
void ritual still the go to even after balance changes?
dense elbow
When you join a random off-meta weekly group and don’t understand what happened ...
Wrecking throw value 
remote bobcat
https://www.wowhead.com/news/corruption-tuning-again-patch-11-1-5-horrific-visio...
i think that's getting theorycrafted as we speak
dense elbow
Just take Twilight Dev, turn off dam meters, play with MM and DK. Once in a while it will look like Twilight is the old one
remote bobcat
you have to turn off dam meters and dam numbers
undone flower
The full tank nyalotha pugs ahh
velvet obsidian
DH tanks in the full tank PUG with the stacked SotW. Twilight procs for insane numbers during Meta. Crazy stuff
cosmic sundial
Question: I know in execute we don't need to fully stack bloodcraze for bt to crit, but what causes that? Is it vc or another talent I may have misread or looked over?
modest condor
vc yes
it's not because it crits at lower bloodcraze stacks, it's because you need lower crit for bt to be a more valuable button than rb when it does 50% more damage
cosmic sundial
aaaaah
thank you for explaining
I understood the fact that we didn't need as much crit chance but not the why
even though it was in my face lol
verbal shale
Mountain thane with bladestorm now? 😂 😂
junior gale
No
rotund ginkgo
plush zephyr
You think they keep Fury bad on purpose, so we would want to go MoP classic Fury...
Too big brain
wanton mirage
hmm I somehow get both mechano core amp and suspicious drink on hero track now. what do i do now? start doing M+? . kekw
sullen dove
no way balls root
formal stump
Anyone know why i cant see the Undermine world boss?
Even when I join a group he doesnt show and the symbol like I am not in the dungeon shows up on the rest of the players.
thorny peak
im free from the seaforium prison.... unless its in my vault tomorrow
tepid cedar
with the new echoing void buff, we have any new numbers on it?
tepid cedar
hmm I somehow get both mechano core amp and suspicious drink on hero track now. ...
pacemaker and s.drink issss amazzinng
violet condor
You think they keep Fury bad on purpose, so we would want to go MoP classic Fury...
was fury in mop good?
heavy flax
anyone else encounter the first boss of dfc talking in your ear the entire dungeon
vague sierra
Those sure are some underhanded tactics.
feral ivy
this is this the dmg if we pop to early or dont pop?
left perch
You think they keep Fury bad on purpose, so we would want to go MoP classic Fury...
implying fury had a dev
edgy widget
this is this the dmg if we pop to early or dont pop?
that's hitting a bomb with the wrong color
young swan
was fury in mop good?
some consider it the best iteration of fury ever
generally either that or legion
feral ivy
that's hitting a bomb with the wrong color
but in mythic its just a instant kill is this nerf just usefull to heroic then?
vague sierra
there's only colors in mythic, so presumably it'll be liveable.
young swan
whuh
sullen dove
but in mythic its just a instant kill is this nerf just usefull to heroic then?
60% nerf makes it almost kill you but technically survivable
no longer instant wipe
Like 7mil ish dmg
just pop a quick lil rally be aight
and heroic doesn’t have polarized people or bombs
royal copper
How well is the new 30% bladestorm increase?
- Are we going to replace Ravager?
(MT, M+)
young swan
no
earnest canyon
Ptr I thought?
balmy shore
@modest condor @tidal kindle im locked in
modest condor
ew a gnoblin
tidal kindle
🔒 
dapper goblet
some consider it the best iteration of fury ever
um the best was eternal palace blood of the enemy
young swan
pretty true
balmy shore
my bf keeps saying that mop fury was insane
very excited for classic to see what ppl are hyped about
runic pine
not that I should be complaining too much, but I thought Cyrce's Circlet was supposed to be BiS, simming lower than other rings for me but then again maybe it's just a "I have too little mastery" angle
left perch
<@105847932611231744> <@134176953291767808> im locked in
we’re gonna RUFF up the competition
balmy shore
we’re gonna RUFF up the competition
FUR REAL ARF ARF BARK
sinful spoke
these pugs are incredible
modest condor
and people say you'll be able to tell when someone is using the 1 button rotation
dapper goblet
very excited for classic to see what ppl are hyped about
pop cds
press cs
press stormbolt
lean heart
im wondering w the 10% ads hp nerf on OAB and 30% bladestorm buff if i would just play slayer on prog
edgy widget
well this is scuffed
jovial plaza
Suffering from success...
edgy widget
it's either that or craft another piece just for dusk
and I'd rather save my crests for turbo upgrades
sinful spoke
im wondering w the 10% ads hp nerf on OAB and 30% bladestorm buff if i would jus...
fury still king prob
lean heart
fury still king prob
yes still fury i was thinnking of playing slayer instead of thane like i have been
jovial plaza
time to go freak
wispy thistle
we could have saved you the pain
dusty aspen
It's actually such a bad talent its unreal it even exists
Play SMF and just tell them you're trying out the one button rotation. Ez way to get away with it
river reef
ew a gnoblin
@chrome plover
random raptor
I wonder if mountain thane with bladestorm would be good after reset
sudden tusk
eh prob not
random raptor
wish we had some m+ tuning tbf, these 16s are killing me
slayer in keys doesn't sound great either but I guess it'd be worth a try at least
sudden tusk
its still gonna be behind thane for sure
for keys
slayer arms might have some potential
but i gotta testit out on reset
summer quail
slayer arms might have some potential
i don't think so at all
random raptor
maybe its time for me to learn arms, I think I've hit the pug wall and fury damage isnt helping lol
what would the hero talents be madox, colossus?
jade cipher
guys
under 35% with ravager down do we still send manual bloodthirsts or rampage into RB and let ravager send bloodthirsts?
unreal onyx
During reck/rav I don't send manual BTs, the rage gen is pretty high and you can almost spam ramp before pressing other buttons
jade cipher
my point is under 35% you can do rampage + another button which is usually RB, should it be bb?
pure breach
very excited for classic to see what ppl are hyped about
Yeah I’m really looking forward to play it as well
lilac shadow
was just wondering if its better to have two crafted legendary two handers if im not raiding for the weapon drop from there?
smoky vale
the value is 2nd crafted a lot less than 1st
you should sim if 2 other crafts does better than another weapon
fossil orbit
A question - how reliable is Hekilii? Does it take all conditions into account, for example execute, bloodthirst etc? From a parsing perspective, how high could one parse using Hekilii at their ilvl if they follow it 99% during a bossfight? We’r not talking about cds for adds and such - purely in terms of rotation.
flat river
I don't think it takes into account movement and mechanics
quiet breach
it does not
flat river
But % it does
quiet breach
and it doesnt time cds
flat river
Oh
quiet breach
it will just tell u to use CD asap every time
flat river
My bad then
quiet breach
My bad then
no ur right
it doesnt take into account movement and mechanics from what ive seen
flat river
Ohh
quiet breach
or if it does its inconsistent
fossil orbit
But it takes all the conditions for procs into account?
So for a patchwerk fight it should help one parse pretty high or?
oblique trail
Assuming full uptime and it being completely patchwerk, it will suffice yes
But will it be as good as someone actually pressing their buttons knowing full well what the rotation is? Can't say for sure but unlikely, albeit it will be close/good enough
flat river
Just wait and use the one-button
pure breach
fossil orbit
😂
flat river
I wouldn't suggest ever using hekili
Makes u too dependent
Our rotation is basically just 2 buttons anyways
And press 2 other ones situationally
When u have enough stacks
flat river
Our rotation is basically just 2 buttons anyways
Multi target it's 3
Cause WW u need stacks uptime
I say uptime i mean stacks
pure breach
You can use just to get used to the rotation but its like he said, its basically 2 buttons
fossil orbit
Ok, thx guys!
flat river
wispy laurel
Guys, how does affect incoming Bladestorm hero talent buff. Does it improve our m+ aoe dmg?
thick fossil
It doesn't help Slayer enough to make it worth using over Colossus or Thane.
remote bobcat
Guys, how does affect incoming Bladestorm hero talent buff. Does it improve our ...
Irrelevant change for m+
minor gain in raid
wispy laurel
Okay, sad. When is our AOE problem going to solved
remote bobcat
Okay, sad. When is our AOE problem going to solved
dense elbow
It is around a 2-15% buff for slayer, based on scenario. In m+ it will be around a 5% overall buff. It will make your mass AoE around 10%, more the shorter the AoE fight is and the more luck you have.
They should've just dropped the reap buff, pushed all into bladestorm dam. At least it would make the button more consistently strong
wispy laurel
They should've just dropped the reap buff, pushed all into bladestorm dam. At le...
Goddamnit, just make us viable dmg dealer
dense elbow
We are viable, if by that you mean we can do the content
remote bobcat
Goddamnit, just make us viable dmg dealer
Arms exists and its fun
thick fossil
Okay, sad. When is our AOE problem going to solved
dense elbow
Problem is that we are weak, not that we can't hit the DPS required to do the content. We are the subpar pick, not a dead pick
remote bobcat
Problem is that we are weak, not that we can't hit the DPS required to do the co...
True
dense elbow
I do hope blizz understand that being "the bladestorm" spec, and Bladestorm doing no damage, ain't it.
red berry
ive said this 90 times b ut thunder blast 8 targets/10-15% damage would make it a really nice button to press. wouldn't really fix the problems of fury, but hey
idk maybe we get
actual nice changes next season
thick fossil
I do hope blizz understand that being "the bladestorm" spec, and Bladestorm doin...
Just like Odyn's Fury being a strong signature ability. You know, the one we never use anymore.
dense elbow
Sums it up. That is what team flat wants tho, so yay
thick fossil
Can our flat be higher than? So it competes?
thick fossil
At this point they might as well just make our meat cleaver 75% like Marksman trick shots. Than make Arms Sweep 100%
dense elbow
Would also help making us more flat, so it would check out with their intended goals
Win/win
undone flower
We are not hunters, so Blizz doesn’t care
thick fossil
The fact that Trick shots is 75% cleave to 5 targets is still mind blowing.
Way to step on Arms Sweeping Strikes.
undone flower
Why it’s m’d blowing ? Beast cleave of BM in S1 at one point was 110%
steel shard
At this point they might as well just make our meat cleaver 75% like Marksman tr...
just make meat cleaver not hard capped
k thanks
dense elbow
Team flat strikes again
thick fossil
Why it’s m’d blowing ? Beast cleave of BM in S1 at one point was 110%
That makes even less sense. lol
red berry
i think in general if they want to remain niches
they need to make the classes in those niches actually competent
thick fossil
Agreed
red berry
which other classes are still better in 2-5 while being massively better in other situations. just buff whirlwind appropriately.
undone flower
That makes even less sense. lol
I already said you need to experience once the moment cleave the boss does more damage to the boss, it is unique
red berry
id love stronger CDs, too. but y'know
red berry
recklessness just adding a flat 20% crit bonus as opposed to just, you know. abilities