fury

[burnt kelp]

I wonder what frostmourne would look like...

[modest condor]

did someone say

[dense elbow]

I am totally out of the loop, what is the uptime on the stats from BiS?

100% or 30%?

[modest condor]

we literally had shadowmourne in sanctum of domination

http://puu.sh/KsNuh/0d2ca63074.png

[remote bobcat]

yo @dense elbow how bored are you on a daily basis atm

[dense elbow]

Today? very bored

[remote bobcat]

daily basis, not just today

[dense elbow]

Day to day, not very bored, what about you?

[remote bobcat]

every off-raid day i feel the need to raid

bored whenever there is no raid

too late for gym

too early for sleep

i wanna raid

Sadge

[dense elbow]

Join some boost raid runs?

[remote bobcat]

alrdy doing that cuh

[dense elbow]

ya doomed then, there wont be enough raids to fill the void

[remote bobcat]

ive been playing sky factory 4

mc modpack

shits somehow interesting enough to keep me engaged

somehow

[dense elbow]

Dont question it, just enjoy it

[remote bobcat]

after tonights raid btw

ive learned to hate mages even more than i already do

thumb

[flat river]

play PvP you'll hate them even more

[remote bobcat]

im not masochistic enough to subject myself to pvp as a warrior

warrior-dominant metas still make warriors feel like shit somehow

hell nah

[chilly fractal]

tried out the 1 button rotation on PTR

kinda funny

[remote bobcat]

thumb

[chilly fractal]

omg it throws Ravager down on your target for you

[remote bobcat]

we already knew that from the showcase

[chilly fractal]

I didn't watch that

yea that video is too long

[gilded pawn]

Wait I would use that

Just for fav

Rav

[lost saffron]

@oblique trail

[oblique trail]

what bitch

[gleaming siren]

Banezi new rotation dropped

Rotation helper OP>MS>Exe

[quiet breach]

does this tier have any anti melee bosses? on mythic

anti melee as in, having more melee than ranged dps would be a significant downside

Stix?

[oblique trail]

Yes, Stix

[quiet breach]

cuz of fire feet thing?

[quiet breach]

is that p much it?

[oblique trail]

Basically

Bandit you could argue is also a bit of a downside to have many melee because it leads to less spread cleave

[quiet breach]

what would u think of a mythic guild doing 8 melee/6 ranged on either of those bosses

[oblique trail]

Though Bandit with as much gear and raid buffs as you'd have now, it might not matter as much

[quiet breach]

is that still fine and the issue only becomes real at like 9-5?

[oblique trail]

If they have access to more ranged, and they really care, they'd have less melee and more ranged on Stix

But it's not so much a damage situation, more just that melee is pretty awful to play because of how little space you'll have

Even with just 5 melee dps it can be tight

[quiet breach]

I see, thanks for the info

[oblique trail]

OP is quite OP

[chilly fractal]

Gotta have at least so many ranged on Sprocketmonger too yea? Or melee get targeted with drills

[quiet breach]

how many ranged do you need for drills not to target melee?

[chilly fractal]

I forget

We ran 8 I think and 4 heals

Idk if MW were considered for drills

[smoky vale]

i mean you also cant do sprocket without having some melee lose extensive uptime too

[oblique trail]

What, like on the bomb set after first intermission?

Outside of that when will you have extensive downtime

Or well, you would need a certain amount of ranged to always have them be prio for drills

Did forget about that part

[undone flower]

Hpal and Mw are considered melee

You need 9 ranges for sprocket or drills will go on melees

If you have 8 ranges, I think in the 3 rd drill of the phase EVERYONE would need to bait them

[smoky vale]

yeah

[oblique trail]

Shrug, I only ever had this happen a handful of times during our prog

[smoky vale]

except it happens 2x times min

yeah

last night we barely killed as orbs came ou

t

[sullen dove]

we had like 20 more seconds to kill da boss there bruh

[sullen tendon]

when can i stop hating playing warrior

[whole yacht]

when its meta

[sullen tendon]

yo uare describing an impossible scenario

everyday of playing fury is like someone stabbing a new piece of molten iron into my bones

[plush zephyr]

Warrior gonna get buffed so hard the communities going to lose their shit

[charred flint]

Is Spark a currency

I dont find it in my bag nor currency

but i dropped two halves

[woven valley]

It’s not a currency it is either in your reagent bag, your main bags if the reagent bag was full or your reagent bank if you deposited it by accident

Most likely

[charred flint]

holy shit i have 5 sparks

poggers

thanks

The right thing to do is craft a sword right

[woven valley]

Usually it’s 2 hander and wrists with the nerubian embellish.
But at higher ilvl it becomes cloak and wrists with dusk thread iirc

[charred flint]

To get the highest ilvl i just need someone with the recipe right

it doesnt matter what sort of content im still doing

or do i need crests

[woven valley]

You need 60 crests of whatever ilvl you want it to be to buy the correct crafting item

So 60 gilded for mythic ilvl

[charred flint]

and i can change the ilvl later right dont need to respend on mats

[woven valley]

All you’ll need to rebuy is the crest part and a few mats to recraft

Usually a few bars and such

Not another spark though

[inner zinc]

should i start considering double duskthread at around 670 ilvl? I dont feel like i can trust the sims when it comes to ascension since it doesnt take into consideration that in M+ the stacks can drop frequently

[sullen dove]

i mean its not really an ilvl bar

dusk just better in m+

and prolly about even/maybe better on some mythic bosses too

[junior gale]

its uh do you have 2 myth weapons bar

[inner zinc]

i have 1 myth track + crafted 675 OH with ascension

[junior gale]

doesnt sound like 2 myth weapons then

[sullen dove]

i mean doesnt rly matter can get rid of ascension and craft/recraft double dusk

tho considering you gonna have to recraft literally everything in 2 weeks anyway maybe better to wait for that

if you want

[smoky vale]

yeah

[sullen dove]

but if dont care about recraft cost pop off

[smoky vale]

be me not crafting stuff because im lazy

[inner zinc]

i can recraft my own gear, so i dont mind. Probably just gonna wait until next week to recraft though

dont have enough gilded crest to get another item to 675

[tepid cedar]

Now question is with this bullshit crest stuff

Are they going to remove the limit

[charred flint]

what do we like for weap enchants

i would sim it

but limited options for free raidbots

[junior gale]

then do it the ghetto way and sim one at a time

[winter shoal]

Raidbots premium is like $3

[snow edge]

They confirmed the crest cap is being lifted at the same time

[tepid cedar]

Awesome!!

[sinful spoke]

the new 2 hander only faces on way

gj blizz

multi dollar company

pissing me off

[sullen dove]

2hands always do that

that are like adorned on one side

wod elekk tusk claymores from like pvp look horrendous for the same reason

[sinful spoke]

really? maybe im just used to symmetrical weps

[marble schooner]

sprocket is ded

finally

[dense jewel]

my parse on our first kill of reverb

[feral ivy]

any way to make a WA sound louder? i have the execute stack one and it goes bam and its so low

[undone flower]

WAs use your base game sound canals (master, music, effects etc) and if you turn them down it turns down the WAs too

I think in general they use master / I turn down the other sounds by the sub options not master typically

[remote zephyr]

No matter which spec I go slayer, thane, or colosuss on either arms or fury I can't perform on Mythic Bandit

Is this just me

on every other boss I'd be competetive damage wise with the rest of the raid but on bandit i'm bottom of the barrel

[sullen dove]

think arms colossus kinda pointless now and u just like go slayer for execute phase boss piping

and fury is just like for some more add dam

maybe can still colo it up if you want just sounds kinda like a drag

[undone flower]

Im on bandit too as fury, I find my damage fine (on the last add set) it’s like 3m4, ofc im not a fucking aff warlock

[fading sky]

u can change it to any other sound as well if u want a higher one 😄

[fading sky]

Imagine if we had Strong OF and Roar for adds 😄

we could be the warlock

[fading sky]

isnt it kindda logical though? its a skull, so the ohter side is the back of the skull ?

[edgy widget]

he's saying that, aesthetically, it would look smarter to turn the sword around so that the faces faced outwards from each hand and the back of the skulls both faced inward

[fading sky]

ah then im the dumb one

i agree

[edgy widget]

and he's not wrong, but literally every non-symmetrical set of dual wielded weapons has had that issue since World of Warcraft launched 21 years ago, so it's kind of a dead horse at this point

[undone flower]

Im really fine with how im doing, since i can’t spread AoE, the specs designed to do that should be over me on bandit

[edgy widget]

TBF OF and Roar wouldn't do much on 2-3 targets even if we did use them
and Fury is already pretty good on the dynamite sets regardless

[fading sky]

true true but dang its a fight that shouts for OF and roar being strong 😄

could siphon all the dynamite sets 😄

would look better, wouldnt change much for sure 😄

[undone flower]

Since I can’t compare with prior fights / I didn’t play fury since ansurek, I can’t tell, but damn my damage go up when it’s boxes time

[edgy widget]

Fury already rocks dynamite sets if you time cooldowns for them

[undone flower]

I play 45 sec roar, idk why the other fury doesn’t play it

And I did try frenzied enrage / powerful, I don’t’ see meaningful difference

[edgy widget]

45s roar doesn't really add much, since the only thing roar is really good for is the dynamite sets anyway

not even worth saving for reel assists

[undone flower]

Yeah I send on cd but hold for the boxes

I roar boss + 2 assistants basically

What I run
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/RYPzX68nGNxaBHv7?fight=34&type=summary&source=104

I think I’ll switch stormbolt with intervene for next raid

[edgy widget]

yeah that's pretty much the standard build; Thane has very little room for variety

[undone flower]

And I’m pretty sure the stat crit/execute 2 points talent is less than the roar capstones for me

What is the difference between the two assistants type in logs ?

[sullen dove]

maybe the first two that don’t matter vs all the future ones

[undone flower]

I think you are right, it would make sense they change id since they don’t drop the thing after you inserted them

[eternal lance]

[tired root]

do u save roar and ravager for teritorial bombs with hyenas or just send them on cd on stix?

[smoky vale]

people refuse to want to time 15s

[clever belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/waah-waa-sad-wah-waaah-gif-25875771

[flat river]

No WoW for me for 2 weeks guys

I cracked my shoulder bone

@mossy fox u gunna have to find someone else to recraft your gear 😭😭😭

[mossy fox]

wtf nooo

[flat river]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-crying-crying-girl-crying-anime-crying-anime-girl-gif-4473502144398719776

[flat river]

It should heal by the time crafted gear gets updated to have an ilvl upgrade

So not all bad

[smoky vale]

unfortunate gala

[flat river]

Thank u gala57

[smoky vale]

if you say that again i will take it back

[flat river]

xD

[smoky vale]

i am not gala

[flat river]

I see

We are gio?

[smoky vale]

no

i am gio you are gala

[flat river]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/818896684087640114/1363642063979024616/RDT_20250420_043048777263686207374999.gif

[chrome plover]

what did u do

[flat river]

I had a seizure in the bathroom

Fell on my shoulder

Dw about the seizure though it's a condition

Shoulder crack though sadge

[radiant plank]

stop slacking on milk

[flat river]

💀

[chrome plover]

that’s spooky

sucks

glad it wasn’t ur head though

[flat river]

I did also hit the back of my head but it's alright

Small bruise

[chrome plover]

maybe it’s fine

[flat river]

Battle scars

[chrome plover]

you don’t need the head anyway

warrior player after all

[flat river]

Real

[remote bobcat]

oh you're awake again

man you need to fix yo schedule

[flat river]

Anyone else purposely removes int buff when mages cast it 💀

[tender seal]

does it actually show that someone is missing their buff on their UI? like if they use AUI

would be kinda fun to add cancelaura into some macro... :>

[remote bobcat]

no

[smoky vale]

never sleptp

[radiant plank]

#showtooltip Raging Blow
/cancelaura Ebon Might
/cast Raging Blow

[chrome plover]

depends on the weakaura they use

my battle shout only pops up if it’s an attack post user

Attack power*

[tender seal]

not the ebon might walhe 💀

[smoky vale]

0 reason if its dead clueluess

[clever belfry]

#FIGHTBACK

[radiant plank]

[clever belfry]

i posted #FIGHTBACK macros while playing aug

based?

[oblique trail]

I think balls

In fact

[clever belfry]

@oblique trail deadass check

[radiant plank]

balls

[oblique trail]

what does this mean

[oblique trail]

oh

9/9

[clever belfry]

chitter

[oblique trail]

true

[radiant plank]

Banezi always cheat

[oblique trail]

my Miyaber and ZY teams both barely got 22k points

Evelussy got 38k

[clever belfry]

bringer is same diff as last time tho i think

ig buff is slightly worse

[oblique trail]

Idk maybe

I'm too lazy to redo it

I got 3 stars

I chill

[clever belfry]

35400 / 42600 / 38300
guess the teams :3

[oblique trail]

balls, balls, and balls?

I think balls

miyabi + vampire, sanby, burnice + rat

[clever belfry]

mono ice, sanby trigger nicole, rat vamp singer

playing mono ice properly is such a fucking pain

i griefed 1 stun window (didnt have ice anom high enough to trigger shatter at the right time gg)

[oblique trail]

I griefed by ulting just as I triggered frostburn, effectively wasting 3 stacks

[clever belfry]

a classique

[oblique trail]

Mono ice hurts my brain to play

[clever belfry]

have u swapped skk to lucy engine + freedom blues yet

[oblique trail]

Nyo :3

[clever belfry]

bro probably not doing hold E dash cancel b4 swap

banezi? more like banoobzi

[oblique trail]

Bro idk what you're talking about so probably not

I just press buttons chief

[clever belfry]

xdd

reasonable

[oblique trail]

The only team I'm somewhat aware of what I'm doing is on Evelyn

The rest is just click

[clever belfry]

not using manual chain = loser for eve innit

[oblique trail]

well yeah but I am not playing manual

[clever belfry]

yeah same

fuck that

[gleaming siren]

Banezi Anda log in we're doing weeklies

[clever belfry]

pay me

[gleaming siren]

I'll pay you in exposure

[clever belfry]

ok mr NSky

[oblique trail]

It'll cost more than just the sub for me to login and do weeklies

[clever belfry]

schmidi i will consider exposure when u have more twitch followers than me frfr

[pulsar cave]

Can you put Authority of the Depths on both of our weapons?

[oblique trail]

Yes

It just doubles the damage effect of it

As does it for any other enchant, simply doubling the effect

[pulsar cave]

thanks

[royal copper]

Can i rely on this addon?

• Says i am over the cap... IF thats still a thing?

[undone flower]

Rely to do what

Because it accomplishes what is written, the diminishing return is at 21k, you have 676 more, you lose 10 % of that

But what is your goal with that info ? For what use do you rely on this being showed ?

If curiosity, it does its job

[sour frigate]

[chrome plover]

diminishing returns is NOT a cap

[iron portal]

Life is good

[royal copper]

So the simple answer is yes, i should go less mastery?

[iron portal]

Playlist of good songs, home made food and tea?

[junior gale]

The simple answer is just sim instead of using whatever addon that is

[undone flower]

No because you and us have no clue if your mastery is 10% better than your others stats for your current gear (and switching gear means you switch 2 stats amount) so we don’t have the brain power to tell you

[royal copper]

With House of cards..

o.O

[undone flower]

With house of cards what

[royal copper]

popped

[fast mural]

Cool

You know sims take that into account

Which is why we sim

[undone flower]

Cool lots of mastery when you press house of card, I cant do the math in my head so I sim

Idk if it’s accurate

[fast mural]

Isn't haste a hard cap

[undone flower]

There is no hard cap

Well at 132k there is a cap

[fast mural]

Ii though it was 125%

Might be only for gcd reduction

[undone flower]

Yes but gcd reduction is still an increase

And these amounts are useless

Since you don’t have that much stats through an expansion

And you restart at 0 in the new one

[fast mural]

On fury it's doable

During lust

[undone flower]

Lust is a %

It doesn’t go into diminishing returns

[fast mural]

A priests PIed me for some reason aswell and I was at 150% haste during BL

[undone flower]

But yes haste has less value for fury, but what value compared to your current gear, the current situation of your stats, the encounter, your talents, which item you are interested in, I can’t tell bc I’m human

[hoary agate]

Uninstall, zero value in that add-on just SIM, DR isn't something you should be concerned with

Only stat I would be concerned with is versatility to see if you live one shots with defensives doing high keys, otherwise just SIM and use what it says

[undone flower]

If you want to look about the house of cards change an item on your current gear, you sim your current gear with house of cards vs everything you have in your bag

[plush zephyr]

^called Top Gear on RaidBots

[royal copper]

i found my asnwers - thanks, and yes - i should consider more vers. Have to change embelishments..

[plush zephyr]

Now uninstall that add on

And Pawn too if you have it

[royal copper]

i dont - and yes, i will ^^

Done!

[plush zephyr]

Hahaha

[royal copper]

MOAR MASTERY!

[undone flower]

If you don’t have it in your bag, you add if you are interested in a specific item, you can do a droptimizer of the raid if you want to see if you want an item now, of m+ if you have a sub, if you think about recrafts for stats you can sim stats on these

[plush zephyr]

spend time simming < just send the shit

[royal copper]

Just not a expert simming - butt ill be better ad it. thanks

Back when i played - we used fucking AskMrRobot lol

[plush zephyr]

I’m just meme’ing it’s very important I just feel like people spend a lot of time on stuff that is negligible (not saying you are)

[undone flower]

Yeah if you are a little lazy, I guess you can copy stats amount of other players

[hoary agate]

Please no

[undone flower]

It is the least awful I can think of if he doesn’t want to sim

[chrome plover]

if you dont wanna sim just look at the stat priority on wowhead and follow it with gems and enchants

if you're at the point where you wanna optimally farm pieces of gear i.e. rings in dungeons then why are you not already simming?

(not responding to anyone in particular)

i just think surely if you're actually interested in optimisation to that degree you'd want to start simming your guy

[undone flower]

i will sleep until blizzard does a 1 button sim macro

[dense elbow]

And these twats dont get why I am tilted at em?

Darned boosties

[chrome plover]

did u time the key

[dense elbow]

yes, just barely

[chrome plover]

then they did exactly what they needed to

[dense elbow]

[dense elbow]

The wrecking throw buff feels good tho

1 cast, 10m, pretty solid

[fading sky]

Which boss?😅

Ah priory.

Or?

[dense elbow]

Prioress, yep

[fading sky]

Ah scary

Didnt u take dmg bsck

[dense elbow]

I am talking about the boss, not the lieutant

[smoky vale]

me when my dt does 100x that

[dense elbow]

Shut it Gala57, I am enjoying a big dam on press fury feel

[smoky vale]

too bad fury sucks

noob

[fading sky]

Ahh y

Nono fury has great burst

[dense elbow]

... riiiiiiight

[fading sky]

Comeback kids said so

https://youtu.be/QNVvW_AdS_8?si=-nkMLNEuDzmQBxMa

[spare steppe]

is Viscera sim bait?

[fading sky]

19.16

Nuclear aoe burst

[fading sky]

No its good in pure st

[modest condor]

not just great, it's nuclear

[fading sky]

Yeah for real

[dense elbow]

Fuwyyh whuiiyuhw

[fading sky]

But devo is just good burst

🤣

[smoky vale]

yea, fury is like a car engine starting unholy is dropping nukes on cities

god

hitting a glorp during cds and kust

just

[fading sky]

Dk = hydrogen bomb

Fury = smart bomb

Just we zug so not smart

[dense elbow]

Ye, but Fury got Odyn's Fury, that hits like a softcapped raging blow!

So hah!

L take, Fury wins

[fading sky]

Exactly

[smoky vale]

me when my 1 global

[fading sky]

Also roar isn good burst

[smoky vale]

is worth 10x more than of

and bursts for 5x more

[fading sky]

1 epidemic vs 1 of

What wins

[smoky vale]

epidemic isnt even a lot of damage

[dense elbow]

OF wins the battle for my heart, no matter what

♥

[fading sky]

I love OF to bad they didnt buff it

[dense elbow]

They did tho

15%

[fading sky]

It should be an m+ talent if i ever saw 1

[dense elbow]

when it needed 150%

[fading sky]

Or added to am

And a 100% buff

👍

[dense elbow]

please dont add it to AM, then we starting the whole "OF cant do dam on press, cause TT" again

[fading sky]

Well.. it cant do dmg now

Flat dmg profile burst spell

😂

[dense elbow]

I am sure they gonna give it a 100-150% buff soon

[fading sky]

What about bladestorm?

It also needs love esp as arms

[dense elbow]

Needs at least a 50% buff, and unhinged need a choice node that doubles BS dam

[fading sky]

For the love of god spinning for 10 seconds( how it feels)

[dense elbow]

If you give BS a 100% buff, it will start to feel fun to press as a CD

Sure, it will still do less dam than a bloodbeast, or wake of ashes, but - it will come fast and hard, on demand. Not to mention, it will finally be less RNG on impact, as the reap procs wont decide if the burst was ok or fell short.

The true value of BS isnt in BS itself, but in the BTs from unhinged. That to me just is silly.

It just really reduces the AoE potential of the ability.

I rather take a 100% buff to BS damage, than having to pray for procs for my AoE to be ok

[supple laurel]

Is anyone here around 665 ilvl?

[gleaming siren]

Gala57 calling others noobers

[clever belfry]

fünf sieben

[ebon bluff]

668

[supple laurel]

what are you simming in terms of dmg?

[dense elbow]

i sim 1.7m on ST, 671m if that helps

[ebon bluff]

2.3m fury st i guess

[supple laurel]

Okay thanks!

[ebon bluff]

actually 2.48

[supple laurel]

sounds about right. I'm sitting at 2.55. Saw someone hitting 2.65 or some shit so thought I was doing something wrong 😆 , but they must have been sitting 670+

[hardy shuttle]

I'm basically right there at 671 at 2.65 so sounds accurate

[chrome plover]

2.7

[supple laurel]

Okay nice, thank you peeps. Appreciate it

[chrome plover]

literally a million more than @dense elbow

classic

[dense elbow]

odyns fury go burr

[winter shoal]

Are you simming target dummy or what

[remote bobcat]

quit lying

u sim 2.6

[dense elbow]

st 5min

I sim 2.65 in raid setup, sure

[remote bobcat]

yea

[dense elbow]

I also sim 1.7m

not a lie

🕺

[remote bobcat]

with OF

?

[dense elbow]

with OF and no raidbuffs, so on

[remote bobcat]

deceit

[dense elbow]

Nah, I just find sims without raidbuffs to be more accurate for m+

[remote bobcat]

they are

but it's a necessary disclaimer

imo

[dense elbow]

Nah, my way causes more drama

[chrome plover]

i was about to say

it's classic bait

[dense elbow]

also makes ppl feel better, that ask

[winter shoal]

FunkyKitty stirring the pot then dropping the fattest 2025

All in a day's work

[dense elbow]

The nerds get titlted, I have fun. The guy asking, gets happy, as he beat my dps

[chrome plover]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-avengers-infinity-war-mind-stone-last-stone-infinity-gauntlet-gif-15735729

funkykitty when someone says "quit lying"

[dense elbow]

[jade cipher]

guys

i swear blizzard makes some changes that are so unncessary

why is my last hit of rampage spending the whirlwind charge instead of first?

it so off putting for me

[warm crag]

spaghetti code

i assure you no one went into the code and intentionally changed that

[remote bobcat]

it would be very funny if some dev went in and said "wait why is this consuming the stacks upon its initial cast? Nah that's not how it's supposed to work, let's change that rq" on a whim

[fiery edge]

nuclear aoe burst cooldown

https://tenor.com/view/ch0colatchaud-burst-gif-21178804

[dense elbow]

Fury not S++? Troll tierlist spotted

[sour frigate]

id say demo ass and feral are a+

mm S

ret a+ too

[remote bobcat]

"fury has a lot of burst" into "fury doesnt have a lot of consistent damage" had me dying

[wintry sundial]

Arcane isn't really nuclear AoE if you look at their burst most of that damage will be on their main target because of how their funnel works with Resonance

[modest condor]

he's right about the second part tho Kappa

[tepid cedar]

Did a 15 dfc. 3.71m overall on details. Not to shabbyc shuffled cyrces to have 29 haste and 63 mast lol

[remote bobcat]

Kappa

[fiery edge]

Ik i just die at fury part

[fiery edge]

He forgot about the Loboz tech

[wintry sundial]

In all honesty if someone is listing arcane as a top aoe spec you should probably ignore the rest of their tier list

Fury is SSSS tier no matter what because you get TWO swords instead of just one

[clever belfry]

2 big stick

[wintry sundial]

The mog potential is limitless

[balmy shore]

i play video games where you can have big stick

[wintry sundial]

Good news

Fury get two big stick

Huge

Bigly

[balmy shore]

we’re on mugzee and i was playing arms but we’re doing 4 heal and lacking p1 boss damage so i am now fury

:3

we love fury

[wintry sundial]

I main a mage and am sad because I only get one big stick and I dont even whack people with it

And when I play warrior I play prot so I only get a little stick

Oh wait new server name holup

[clever belfry]

:3

[balmy shore]

hi andameow

[wintry sundial]

Perfect

[clever belfry]

andameow is dead

[cold knoll]

Hi guys , do you think the previius balance patch note is the last class tuning patch we will have this season

[dense elbow]

We will at least see nothing till after the MDI

Novix going to bring out secret tech for Fury, a build noone thought about, that will see us nerfed

[remote bobcat]

was that ur decision or was that decided by rlead/group?

[remote bobcat]

the secret build is called arms

my guy

hes been practicing it

[dense elbow]

Nah nah, he gonna bring out a fury build, using spear and roar, and no RB or BT boosting talents, then somehow top DPS using heroic throw and wrecking throw. Being ranged Fury, throwing axes and spears!

[balmy shore]

officers but also we wiped at 3% with ppl dead so don’t think we need p2 damage

we have another warrior and we were both arms

[remote bobcat]

im on mugzee as well and my group hasnt put in that much effort into that kinda thing, every time i bring up p1 optimizations then i just get asked "is it making us wipe? no? then we're not changing it."

Sadge

[hardy bluff]

kinda depends on your strat

if you are holding dps end of p1 then no point in that

[remote bobcat]

we are sometimes

depending on pull

or we lust at 45% to quickly phase it

not a fan of that, personally

[hardy bluff]

that sounds cursed

[remote bobcat]

it is

but it hasnt caused a wipe yet so why improve it

right?

[balmy shore]

yeah i mean we only changed because we were lusting early to get to intermission consistently but with more p1 damage we don’t need to lust early

depends on your raid

[lean wasp]

yo can someone share this week's affix wa

cant find it when searching

[gusty sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/ohnepixel-drilla-csgo-gif-13485077269813264205

[fiery edge]

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-nah-no-way-fr-no-shot-gif-25089961

[remote bobcat]

HAHAHHAHA

chaos strike chaos strike chaos strike chaos strike

[grave lark]

Break orb, get haste

[lean wasp]

for the timer i mean 🙂

[flat river]

But for real though

Why meta for DH

Give them improved abilities

But we have to talent it

To get improved abilities

Smh

[full valve]

cuz they turn into a demon

we just get angy

[flat river]

We get reckless

Exactly

[jade cipher]

idk RA seems very weak, i burst as much as anger management with it

[full valve]

i tried playing RA and i missed AM reckless resets so much

[jade cipher]

but if you are supposed to do some damage every 1.5, isnt it supposed to be noticeable?

[south kayak]

Legion Havoc

[tight roost]

In m+ on aoe packs, do you prioritize swapping to lowest mob for extra bt or just sit on one target to keep slaughtering strikes maxed?

[full valve]

havoc up until dragonflight

[fading sky]

1st off both survival and outlaw( when fixxed) do more dmg. A lot more

[fading sky]

I mean.. i target biggest health mob. Just do a mouse over macro bt

If u want that little extra

[tight roost]

Cool thanks

[fading sky]

But in gen in aoe packs i send bt on cd, if it cleaves it cleaves

[quiet breach]

anyone who's good at looking at logs on RN I can dm them a question rq?

don't wanna post it publicly lol

[sturdy trench]

Sounds sus

[quiet breach]

I got my question answered, also its just cuz I don't wanna put someone on blast publicly lol

[sturdy trench]

Darn. I was hoping you had new tech for us

[gusty quartz]

i got kezan mechano and locknstalk trinkets, what should i use for single target and what for multi?

[winter shoal]

Sim it

[gusty quartz]

im mid raid rn

[gilded pawn]

You changing trinkets mid raid?

Just sum it between pulls

[marble pilot]

Kinda surprised the 1 button slayer fury is only 20% worse. Like thats a good amount but not a crazy amount. I know people that already do like 40% less than simmed. It would be an improvement for them to just spam the 1 button

(assuming they use cds correctly and stay on boss)

[gilded pawn]

If you are doing 40% less than sims you aren’t even playing the game

Unless like me who doesn’t potion or flask or use stones

[marble pilot]

Well I am not. But everyone has seen the dps below tanks on boss fights before

[edgy widget]

to be clear, that's while also using cooldowns, potions, etc manually (though without conditions); if you just did the 1-button and skipped all of that, it would perform another ~15% worse

this is also a single target sim, whereas in an actual dungeon or raid encounter, you've gotta worry about things like movement, target swapping, damage phases, cooldown timing, etc

[marble pilot]

So a person with 100% uptime and perfect cd use would be ~20% worse. But a person that has 100%uptime and cd use is also likely someone that is competent with the rotation at least 80%. So in general no one uses 1 button.

[edgy widget]

well again, the CDs are used without condition so I wouldn't call it "perfect" by any means - I kept it consistent with Blizz' guidelines

[marble pilot]

Oh so it just sends them on CD. Where as a person playing intentionally will use them in damage windows or adds and whatnot

[edgy widget]

but yeah I don't think there's any real fear of people using the 1-button in any serious capacity, but I also think it's adequate enough to get you through most general/low level content

[gilded pawn]

So did they tell y’all the underlying apl or is it just something y’all built by testing

[edgy widget]

I used it in several mid-level delves (testing the new overcharged versions, which actually kinda slap) and it played well enough

[edgy widget]

na we datamined it, although it's actually very close to the mockup I did the other day

[marble pilot]

So maybe its used on an alt you never care to learn doing open world chores. Or for some people like if your 10 year kid is playing. Or otherwise disabled/injured.

[edgy widget]

Arms and Fury aren't that complicated though, so they can get by with mostly unconditional actions (Rampage > Raging Blow > Bloodthirst); something like Unholy is a lot more complicated and needs more conditions to work right

[gilded pawn]

Got it

So we basically know the exact conditions for simming eventually

[edgy widget]

Frost DK is also fairly straightforward, but I know Unholy, Feral, and Warlock's priorities are pretty bad atm

[marble pilot]

Like break your arm and its casted you can play 1 button for a bit and not be dead weight but not doing great either.

[gilded pawn]

You know I do think simming is now less stressful for players

Since you can just “sim” gear A vs gear B with one button rotation

Obviously sample size of 1 and variance and all that

But still

[edgy widget]

Warriors have a few misoptimizations as well, like Fury prio's Execute and Thunder Clap more than it should, Arms doesn't prio Mortal Strike with EP, etc

some of that will improve as they polish the system, though I would not expect these action lists to be min/maxed to any serious degree - the entire point is for them to remain relatively simple

[buoyant willow]

o\7

[smoky vale]

Does the unholy try to play the spec normally instead of ignoring festering wounds during cooldowns?

[edgy widget]

idk, do I look like a 2000s emo myspace kid to you?

[smoky vale]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-gif-7653869622424692079

[full valve]

only 2000s emo myspace kids would know what myspace is

[coarse nest]

[marsh current]

guys, i need your help once again... 😄

how do i sim ascendance vs dusklighting ?

[edgy widget]

import your char into top gear, click the little + icon on your crafted piece, and select change embellishment: name

[south kayak]

I started going online right after MySpace days

early FB

Missed the whole thing

[marsh current]

thanks a lot!

Is there another reason of why you should use X weapon enchant besides raw dmg?

[edgy widget]

Not particularly; some are a little better in ST or MT, though none of them have rotational impact, if that’s what you’re asking

[marsh current]

ah, thats what i wanted to know 🙂
Saw Noxiv using radiant power, so i tried it

[smoky vale]

that just reminded me i should be using radiant power on my uh not depths

oops

[modest condor]

im using vers proc

[earnest canyon]

I always forget how young most people are that game and shit

[coarse nest]

I’m using intellect for better thinking

[edgy widget]

It shows

[sudden tusk]

I member when I wore int gear to make my weapon skill leveling faster

https://tenor.com/view/b-boomer-boomer-bttv-twitch-classic-rock-gif-15991791

[winter shoal]

I remember being like 9 years old and getting a polearm and being so excited to jump into some heroic dungeons and pisscrank with my new stick and then realizing I had 1 weapon skill

[simple kiln]

when i use enrage ? i don´t understandt what procs and how mutch stacks

sry mean rage

[smoky vale]

can you clarify your question

or at least point to a part in a guide that confuses you

[humble shadow]

Does anyone know where to find guilds that will boost undermine bosses for the dinar system? Never done it before and was just wonder if there is a discord for this or something

[plush zephyr]

Sounds like a scary place tbh

I’m too jaded from getting my armor stolen when I was kid on old school rune scape to look into boosting lmao

I’m sure there’s “accredited” boosting guilds though. Idk what other word to use.

[humble shadow]

Yee just trying to find a way to get in touch with one of them

[plush zephyr]

Trade chat?

That’s like the only thing I see most of the time on my trade chat lmao

[humble shadow]

Can only play on the weekend and just don't have time for mythic prog

[plush zephyr]

Yes you do.

Sleep less.

[humble shadow]

I just feel like trade has a lot of scammers.. lol. Every time I shift click someone they're lvl 1 or 10 with no guild

[plush zephyr]

Most of them make a ton of accounts and go on multiple high pop realms

And then spam for their services

Idk if any of them are legit, and I’d likely side on caution. I don’t know how common it is people getting scammed in WoW, but as an osrs player I can say in confidence I don’t trust fucking anyone on the internet especially an mmo.

[simple kiln]

i mean this should i stack to 5 every time and then use rampage

[plush zephyr]

On “Overgear.com” there’s a HOT OFFER for Mythic LoU for a cheap price of 109.99 🤦‍♂️ loool that’s wild

[modest condor]

brutal finish is the buff you get after a bladestorm, so after bladestorm you spam raging blow until you cant anymore and then press rampage

[simple kiln]

okay ty

[limber oar]

If after bladestorm you use raging blow 2 times and get no resets then jsut send rampage and continue rotation as normal

Not worth it to wait on the cd by sending other abilities, generally

[simple kiln]

and i use blood thirst every time i can crit or ?

[limber oar]

#updates-midnight message

Archi posted a weakaura that covers some of the basics of when to BT

[simple kiln]

ty

[limber oar]

Ya np

[iron portal]

Fairy tail invasion

[winter shoal]

This is like a 0.1 or 0.2% optimization btw, it really isn't worth worrying about unless you have everything else locked down @simple kiln

[limber oar]

Ya something like that

Ive heard .3-.4%

[simple kiln]

okay thank you guys for you help

[limber oar]

way more important to keep uptime, use big cds correctly, and have a good understanding of your rotation

[remote bobcat]

.4%, its a real optimization

[winter shoal]

I ran the sims a while back but can't find them

0.4% is like kind of real but I skip BF/SS stacking almost every time and I've gotten multiple top 50 (public) logs doing that so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[oblique trail]

You can cut down on a decent bit of the optimisation for Fury and still do 90-95% of its potential

The Brutal Finish conditional most of all (and some fights you especially don't want to do it, due to AM CDR)

[winter shoal]

IIRC SD is also like 0.x% for various permutations of how much to care about it

[gilded pawn]

Does revvez do it

I give it a 50-50

[remote bobcat]

april 23rd

april 30th

revvez does not do it, no

[pulsar prawn]

17% dmg with 12 casts in DFC+13 ...
why doesnt Explo shot get treated like OF / roar revert the 4 nervs

[dense elbow]

Cause Explosive shot is part of 3 things, tierset - the ability - volley. It kinda is in the OF situation of, the ability in itself does "ok" damage, but the reason it looks great on overall, is that it isn't explosive that is doing the damage. It is because it got multiple activators. Remove volley explosive shots and tierset, and it isn't that crazy anymore.

[sour frigate]

Not sure if an explosive from locknload proc counts to casts

[thick fossil]

Free explosive shot at 300% damage is an insane tier buff.

When sentinal is up, and the fact it's not hard capped. Massive damage.

[pulsar prawn]

ah i see. yeah my hunter is only SV 😄 didnt know that

okay so the 12 casts are missleading due to proccs okay.

[dense elbow]

Nah, 12 casts is telling me you aint sending explosive shot enough

[sour frigate]

Casting explosive itself is ass tho

[dense elbow]

Does good AoE dam, nothing wrong about it?

[sour frigate]

Not really without proc or talent

Aimed does like 7kk

That shit 2-4

[dense elbow]

Explosive hits above 5 targets, Aimed not you telling me Normal explosive shot isnt worth?

[sour frigate]

Not always

[dense elbow]

on dummies, one cleaved aimed does the same dam as explosive

Explosive got to be worth it, it seems weird it wouldnt

[sour frigate]

Play a real key u dummy

[dense elbow]

proc explosive

[sour frigate]

That is about balls now

[dense elbow]

I would say exposive shot is worth

[sour frigate]

My guy if u open big logs u can see this

[dense elbow]

But why, if the ability does equal or more damage - and it is simply add to the shot, it doesnt replace it - why not use it?

[sour frigate]

Thats quite far from sending it on cd

Most explosives just come at lock n load and free from salvo

[sour frigate]

...

Cuz aimed shot does more dmg

[dense elbow]

I just showed that they equal on 5t, on more explosive would be more, and they dont replace eachother. It doesn't make sense to my brain as I see it

[sour frigate]

U show it on dummies...

Play game pls

Or roll back to fury now

NOW

[dense elbow]

That doesnt explain it tho?

[sour frigate]

Just use it when u get lock proc

[dense elbow]

Cause the proc dam bonus overlaps with the detonation?

[south kayak]

at long last

[dense elbow]

If so, it makes sense you wouldn't send it. For the chance to 3x the shot, even if holding it

[south kayak]

some buffs

[dense elbow]

hm?

There better be more

[sour frigate]

What the

[dense elbow]

Well, at least bladestorm will tickle a bit more on AoE. Tho that isnt much

[sullen dove]

w

[south kayak]

sheesh

finally

fuck uh

nerf balance though

[sour frigate]

Its still usable if u dont have aimed stacks etc

[sullen dove]

hey so why are we buffing ret by the way

any thoughts there

[sour frigate]

If u have*

[sullen dove]

currently do 30% more dmg than warrior in m+

aoe and st

also its so funny seeing them increase augs personal damage every time one of these happens

they gotta take the hint and remove the fucking spec

xd

[sour frigate]

Or make it melee/tanker

[sullen dove]

yea i mean that would be cool too

[marble schooner]

how big is this for M+ Slayer

[sour frigate]

🔥 🐲

[sullen dove]

but like complete spec overhauls like omega rare

[modest condor]

m+ slayer kekw

[dense elbow]

Meh, with the change, going more BT heavy AoE 'pray for procs to highroll' Slayer in M+ will be better.

[tired root]

seems like they wanna push m+ slayer? Oo

[sullen dove]

think like surv hunter/combat>outlaw rogue only significant ones i can think of

i mean thane is dogshit too idk

[sour frigate]

🛡️ 🐲

[sour frigate]

Buff loboz

[frank dawn]

that is a big bladestorm buff, but prob just makes Slayer about as good as Thane lol

rip Fury

[south kayak]

Shouldn't they be nerfing Balance too? Since they're doing close to/better than UH

[sour frigate]

No

[dense elbow]

Should be a what, 7% increase for Slayer M+, and it was what 10-20% behind Thane

[south kayak]

No?

[dense elbow]

Not a big win, just meh

[modest condor]

might be worth playing

fury does no aoe anyway

and this is also a buff to slayer st

[dense elbow]

Very minor buff to ST

[frank dawn]

2-2.5% I think, so not terrible really lol

[modest condor]

yeah

[twin oasis]

They need to buff fury more

[modest condor]

not sure how much of a buff it is on aoe tho

[frank dawn]

but idk, I think it lets you play Slayer in weekly keys without feeling like shit for doing so if you prefer slayer

[storm birch]

Hmmm

Raid buff not bad

Except on the MT fights

[frank dawn]

I wonder what Culling vs Brutal looks like with 30% more bladestorm lol

[modest condor]

maybe there are some crazy people who have logged m+ runs as slayer

[sullen dove]

surely cyclone becomes usable now again

[dense elbow]

Still behind Thane, and by quite a bit, so meh?

[sullen dove]

only a single target talent anyway

[south kayak]

Am I cooked for thinking balance should also be nerfed in m+? if UH gott nerfed

[sour frigate]

Since when r u waiting for actual common sense in these updates?

[south kayak]

[red berry]

the bladestorm damage buff

[gusty sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/ohnepixel-drilla-csgo-gif-13485077269813264205

[frank dawn]

yeah, but Slayer single target in it's M+ build is now like...7% or so ahead of Thane?

I mean like 100% I think Thane is still better

[modest condor]

ok actually a pretty stupid buff to slayer aoe

[sour frigate]

[modest condor]

like 6% or something

[frank dawn]

but it at least removes Slayer from the utter dogshit category in M+ lol

[south kayak]

they should buff WW by 300%

[sour frigate]

Windwalker yes

Of buff 500% when

[red berry]

its actually a silly buff to slayer raid performace which isn't

really the problem

[dense elbow]

Silly buff?

[frank dawn]

I mean Fury isn't exactly doing so hot the last few weeks in raid

[soft viper]

true

[red berry]

it hasnt, no

i wont disagree that bladestorm was weak but they've carved out niches

its just odd to me

at least i wont feel a total throw for playing slayer in keys again

[chrome plover]

seems like a silly buff yeah

[sour frigate]

Feral got up

As it wasnt pumping

[dense elbow]

You still wont bring any AoE, but maybe you get lucky and your GOD procs bring your burst from 15m to 18m

so giga big

woop woop

Will be good for Skardryn tho

A tiny bit more possible nuke

[modest condor]

slayer giga st slightly behind on aoe now

maybe i'll give it a shot tomorrow when im playing

[south kayak]

wdym

[dense elbow]

Ya should, it plays nicely

just doesnt do any good dam

[modest condor]

it's like a 6-7% buff to aoe or something

slayer was about 10% behind on aoe iirc

so this puts it only slightly behind

and it was 10% ahead on st

so even more now

[south kayak]

imagine not buffing thane

classic blizzard

[sour frigate]

Finally we back to shadowlands

[fast mural]

so your telling me collosus is dead for bandit

[red berry]

yeah thats the part thats odd to me

[sour frigate]

Give siege breaker

[red berry]

give me whirlwind spam again

idgaf

harrowing bonegrinder stonks

[modest condor]

oh wait the buffs are on reset, not tomorrow

[red berry]

yeah i wish they were tomorrow

[soft viper]

ye

[red berry]

that'd be fun

alas, we wait

[fast mural]

blizz fixing the parry problem is something i would have never expected

[modest condor]

lose 5% hp but who cares nothing kills me anyway

[fast mural]

even DHs got a fix

[red berry]

especially since we get so much more health in two weeks

two 486 weapons

or or 484, sorry

[fast mural]

• dinar

[modest condor]

484?

[fast mural]

so ez best in slots

[red berry]

they're raising the cap by 6, aren't they

[modest condor]

bro playing df

[red berry]

😭

[south kayak]

amirdrassil time

[red berry]

oh i goofed

[south kayak]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148897941883584512/997086666961457203/chatting.gif

[red berry]

i am stuck in shadowlands

[modest condor]

lol

[red berry]

and dragonflight

[earnest aspen]

So slayer could be decent for m+ next reset as fury ?

[dense elbow]

Just as decent as it already is

[earnest aspen]

fair enough

[forest owl]

is there an argument for slayer on mythic bandit, if adds die fast?

[earnest aspen]

so im not trolling my team/pugs by running slayer over mountain thane ? if so, I'll def give it a go

[dense elbow]

It is kinda the same as now, it depends on what your team needs

Slayer already brought a tad more ST value, but less AoE. The AoE change doesnt matter, but ST got a tad buffed. So it is up to you if your team needs more overall value or more boss dam value.

[earnest aspen]

they need prio and boss damage

thank you btw 😄

[dense elbow]

You are welcome, just play what you prefer in the end. It wont make or break anything. Especially not when it comes to M+ Fury

[south kayak]

Fury is probably the worst m+ spec and they buff it for raid

classic

[fickle cedar]

Someone has to sim if doing RBs after bladestorm is still gonna be worth after this change, I feel like getting another possible BS at the end of the fight might be better

[dense elbow]

These changes seem kinda honed in on Slayer AoE tho, so mainly M+, and also making it so taking BS over ravager isnt as tempting.

[sour tundra]

so Blizzard buffed bladestorm damage when no one uses it lol

[fickle cedar]

Its just a raid buff, not as needed but i guess its better than nothing

[dense elbow]

Well, yes? That is why it should get buffed, it is undertuned

BS should prob gotten a 50%+, but we take what we get

For a warrior buff, we kinda gotta be happy

[sour tundra]

they absolutely murdered unholy DK tho haha

[dense elbow]

I wouldnt call it murder, they still will be stronger than Fury and by a mile. They only lost what, 6-7% of their lead?

When Fury does 4m, and they do 6m, I think they gonna walk it off and still put us to shame.

[worn gyro]

fury still does alright in keys tho

like near 4m overall aint bad

[dense elbow]

We doing 'fine' tm

[worn gyro]

with a death of 2 yesterday i was at 3.6 overall.

[meager gyro]

while we wait for daddy archi to give us the news ...

[smoky vale]

it changes nothing

[worn gyro]

it does nerf the explode damage no?

[meager gyro]

they basically made it's aoe dmg in line with other S and A+ tier specs

[dense elbow]

It does, yep

[worn gyro]

which is where they get the majority of their aoe burst

[worn gyro]

like 300m explodes

[smoky vale]

its nothing

now you cant get 500m oneshots

from a random proc

OH NO

[forest owl]

wait for all the udks to flood forums claiming spec dead

[mossy kelp]

uhdk dmg was ridiculous tbh

[dense elbow]

I can still feel for them tho. I know that they had a ton of fun getting the god beast and god explosion once every few keys

Always sucks losing something gigafun

[forest owl]

imagine having something fun to begin with, wouldn't be us fury players amirite

[dense elbow]

30% BS is a good step in the right direction

just double that, and we can start spinning

[worn gyro]

is it worth taking over rfavager in keys though?

[dense elbow]

For thane? I really doubt that.

[gusty sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/ohnepixel-drilla-csgo-gif-13485077269813264205

[dense elbow]

It is barely worth for Slayer

[warped bone]

Eh. I'm fine with it. Way to RNG anyway for me to care much about bloodbeast

[worn gyro]

furys super fun, just doesnt do dmg compared to the rest lol

[warped bone]

I've had same level of key same pulls have end up with a 500 mil dif in bloodbeast dmg simply because it didnt proc as much one key

[red berry]

bladestorm is good for slayer because it amps

as well as reap

[gusty sleet]

we gonna be better then augs

[dense elbow]

If it decides to proc, sure

[worn gyro]

rng dmg feels bad

[red berry]

agreed

rng being baked into class design is not great imo

[dense elbow]

When it procing or not, is the only way to decent dam. Ye, it really feels bad. Especially since we arent talking when it procs, IT PROCS, and it feels good. We just kinda go "oh, I am over the tank"

[red berry]

30% really is massive. and its to both bladestorm

and reap

[junior gale]

It's not

[red berry]

idk if i can follow you there scoob

[dense elbow]

it is about 6% overall, and 30% on something minor is minor.

If BS was 25% of our dam, we talking dam. Now it is just in a better spot? Will be around 13-15% of your overall, ish. It is a neat buff.

But nothing to write home about, or think will change anything

Maybe in raid tho, I dont know about the raid.

[junior gale]

30% on two piss weak abilities is basically nothing.

Bladestorm needs at minimum 100%

[dense elbow]

It is still a decent buff, we cant be super whiny. Come on.

[sour abyss]

It's a marginal buff to our single target. Doesn't impact our strugglebus AOE at all.

[forest owl]

bladestorm needs to do blood beast damage

[red berry]

no, fury AoE is still behind where it should be

[violet condor]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-waiting-lonely-coffee-diner-gif-5297313

[worn gyro]

i dotn think furys ST is bad tbf, deffo AoE that needs the buff

[violet condor]

looking at the "buffs" like

[red berry]

but the gap between thane and fury isn't at all there any more when you consider what else slayer brings. we'll see tuesday

[violet condor]

does anyone at blizzard even play warrior? honest question

[red berry]

im sure some do

[sour abyss]

Which doesn't solve the gap between us and top performing, low utility damage classes

[dense elbow]

Probably? Fury is great when you play with mediocre players.

[junior gale]

It's not whining it's just the buffs don't accomplish much so. Pretty sure this is it and blizzard is gonna call it a day on warrior AOE cds

[dense elbow]

It is just a way to close the gap between slayer/col and slayer/thane, it isnt meant to buff Fury

A small buff for raid tho

so yay for that

Also felt bad that pressing Bladestorm was a DPS loss, now it is a wash. So yay!

[forest owl]

dont worry once the other specs slightly below us that got buffed start to kick in, hopefully the small slayer buff keeps us above aug by the end of next week

[dense elbow]

15% on Aug is starting to add up

they coming for us

[smoky vale]

cope

[smoky vale]

they are bug abusing

[dense elbow]

They are coming for us

[smoky vale]

if thats killed they do 0

[meager gyro]

what is abuse?

[dense elbow]

Gala coping, denying that Aug is coming for us, to replace us as the DPS of choice

[smoky vale]

dragon breath is like 30s cd and you have perma bombardments

[tepid cedar]

do we have any numbers for the increase yet?

[dense elbow]

For slayer?

[smoky vale]

30% of z

[dense elbow]

About 7%, give or take

[smoky vale]

xd

[dense elbow]

In m+

[smoky vale]

no way its that much

[tepid cedar]

ssi still shyte in keys

[smoky vale]

yeah

[tepid cedar]

lol these devs are so out of touch

lol

[sage ridge]

Yeah pointless buff

Changes practically nothing

[dense elbow]

Nah, it was much needed to make Bladestorm feel less like a DPS loss to press

so it is a decent fix

Just needs another one of those 30%, and we talking

[junior gale]

Fury needs major help your not gonna get that in a tuning patch

[sage ridge]

Pretty irrelevant though

Good fix

[junior gale]

Not gonna see anything major till 11.2

[dense elbow]

Hey, I take a 7% buff.

Maybe I will play some warrior next week

Do 1 key, get depressed from trash tier DPS, then wait for next buffs to come again

[warped bone]

I've just played prot when i wana do war keys most of this season. I'll go alts if i wana have fun while DPSing

[sage ridge]

That's what I mean this buff changes pretty much nothing even though it's nice

No one is swapping from Arms who plays Arms and aoe is still trash

[dense elbow]

Meh, it still helps as a bandaid. So I am content with what it is, for what it is.

[warped bone]

Better than 0

[opal monolith]

band aid for what

[sage ridge]

Going to be awesome when fury still sucks ass in 11.2

[storm birch]

I’m kinda warming up to the m+ dmg we do ngl

[tepid cedar]

we are stila liability on high keys lololol

[sour tundra]

wake me up when they remove the 5 target cap

[storm birch]

Yea I imagine 16+ is a nightmare

[sage ridge]

It is like they pick which specs get to be great for the entire season and which ones just get to be shit the entire season

[tepid cedar]

cant even say that though

i was gone for part of s3 and s1 of TWW

[junior gale]

They already confirmed they don't want to do major changes during the season

[fickle cedar]

slayer might be better for weekly 10s now since mobs die super fast

[tepid cedar]

werent we amazing at statrt of s1