it is if it shows up in logs
#fury
modest condor
tepid cedar
jastor kinda big. +10 cinder only with a death at startt cause tank died.
fkn 85% uptime is nutty
sage ridge
What Ilvl was the Ret?
tepid cedar
No idea
dapper goblet
3% faster key according to tettles
sudden tusk
bro that 3% more dps from heroic to mythic jastor
is the biggest cope ive ever heard
lmao
sick viper
yall rdy for autoplay?
orchid dagger
yall rdy for autoplay?
I'm ready to be able to mindlessly go through legacy content on one button and not give a shit
junior gale
it wont be better than playing manually so its a who cares
sick viper
I'm ready to be able to mindlessly go through legacy content on one button and n...
you've been able to do that its called Whirlwind lol
young swan
PE better for add dam, FE for boss dam
something like that
prob doesnt matter
play whichever
rocky locust
What do you set your Raidbots settings to when you're deciding which Great Vault item to pick?
quiet breach
What do you set your Raidbots settings to when you're deciding which Great Vault...
patchwerk 1T 5 min for most things
make sure u have the items to sim at 678
or 665 if its a hero track item
also add enchants
rocky locust
patchwerk 1T 5 min for most things
What talent build? I'd guess one of my ST raid builds?
quiet breach
What talent build? I'd guess one of my ST raid builds?
I just use the raid build I use for most fights
rocky locust
If I'm simming a ring, should I just guess on the gems? Maybe check all the ones with mastery?
hardy bluff
i just slam one of each gem in with mastery
vapid mulch
What’s the benefit of fury over arms on bandit? Is it CDs with add spawns?
I’ve not watched critcakes guide yet
radiant plank
you do abit more damage to the fixate bombs
vapid mulch
But I thought it’d be good arms for the ST boss burn and 2T cleave
smoky vale
you do abit more damage to the fixate bombs
help i did 0 damage on sproxket 😦
vapid mulch
you do abit more damage to the fixate bombs
that’s it?
smoky vale
yeah
radiant plank
<:gladge:963970137701109820> that’s it?
yeah
vapid mulch
Arms it is 👍
radiant plank
help i did 0 damage on sproxket 😦
hekili time buddy
smoky vale
hekili time buddy
😦
smoky vale
i am looking at casts rn
and put into wowa to see if i did mbad ones
ill vid review tomorrow
maybe having 8 people die
just fucks my kill time slightly
radiant plank
Critcake does commentaries over his kill videos
mossy fox
he's kinda washed up though
smoky vale
hi critcake 🙂
quartz violet
I missed the end of DF-S4 and all of TWW-S1. How happy was everyone when they changed how whirlwind stacks proc in TWW? Were there tears? Anybody cry? Like, actual tears of joy? Because I love this.
And play they did.
chrome plover
he's kinda washed up though
wrong
feels weird finishing the tier on a wednesday
only gonna have raided for an hour and a half this week
remote bobcat
bro that 3% more dps from heroic to mythic jastor
m+ players argue that mythic dinar items will give a bigger upgrade than improving their skills will give
shits funny
thick fossil
Great improvised scenes in cinematic history.
I doubt it's 3% diff between heroic and mythic. That seems a little exaggerated.
sudden tusk
you know my sleep schedule is fucked when i see osa post in the morning
i have not gone to bed yet
thick fossil
Sounds like an addiction.
sudden tusk
just terrible terrible sleeping habits
i let when i go to bed get out of control one day and its all over
warm crag
https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-fox-sleeping-fox-fox-sleep-sleepy-gif-104799036753...
we must stop this
sudden tusk
the eeper
if only my druids travel form could be a like a fox
or a lizard
like one of these goobers
thick fossil
Bun buns are cute to!
thick fossil
Pet rats, maybe, common street rats or NY city rats nope.
Rats the size of cats covered in shit, hell nah to the nah nah nah.
chrome plover
chrome plover
they are definitely goobers
muted meteor
not fury related but tryna get delve trinkets
delve loot is it delve specific or can u get anything from any delve?
warm crag
anything from any
hardy bluff
anything from any delve
muted meteor
thx
eager thorn
Can fury get out of mugzee jails at all without a racial like void elf?
warm crag
yeah leap at 0.2s
thats inf too early
you should just not bother doing it, get knocked out the back where you dont break any walls necessary for blocking ice crystals and you're good
eager thorn
Raid lead is telling us to race swap if we cant and that isnt smth i wanna do so just wanted to know if we could/how easy it is to do so
chrome plover
i think i did it once early on and didnt bother later
warm crag
your raid lead is an idiot
chrome plover
we ended up just having the warlock port out and leaving dps in if they couldnt get out
warm crag
it was very much necessary during early prog cause getting hit by the goon explosion would just kill you
now it does less than a quarter of your health
chrome plover
it is not necessary at all now
i often just got out when the spears broke the walls on the first ones and got knocked out of the second ones
and it wasnt an issue
eager thorn
Sounds good, ty for the info
twilit pelican
anyone can tell me how many items i can craft? its gonna be 5 or 6 right now?
chrome plover
5.5 sparks rn i think
leaden marlin
Raid lead is telling us to race swap if we cant and that isnt smth i wanna do so...
Which difficulty?
eager thorn
Which difficulty?
Mythic
remote bobcat
Raid lead is telling us to race swap if we cant and that isnt smth i wanna do so...
ur rlead is an idiot muddy
you can EASILY do prisons without that
remote bobcat
Tell him to talk to people who've recently killed the boss or who are progging the boss rn
cause his info is outdated
orchid dagger
you've been able to do that its called Whirlwind lol
Unless they specifically don't put Charge into the one-button mode life is infinitely better
wanton umbra
Hello guys, anyone have a build m+ with fury one hand?
dark elbow
remote bobcat
Hello guys, anyone have a build m+ with fury one hand?
playing fury with one-handers in m+ isn't competitive, you sure you want that?
remote bobcat
I guess it would be this
im guessing it's like 30% weaker than 2handers
not sure.
wanton umbra
thank you @remote bobcat for your help
wanton umbra
im guessing it's like 30% weaker than 2handers
it will be avoided if you use double thunderfury
transmog >>>
remote bobcat
isn't there an item that transforms your weapons to look like thunderfury regardless of what you're holding?
pulsar quest
remote bobcat
nah i swear there was one with a shitton of uses during anniversary event
wanton umbra
yes but if you have it you can't use a toy
anyway really thank you for help i will go to troll some keys
edgy widget
im guessing it's like 30% weaker than 2handers
More like 5-10% lol
remote bobcat
More like 5-10% lol
my guess was wrong
orchid dagger
More like 5-10% lol
So SMF needs a 5-10% buff
warm crag
smf needs to die in a pit
edgy widget
So SMF needs a 5-10% buff
it’s kinda meant to be worse
orchid dagger
it’s kinda meant to be worse
Meanwhile, as Fury still drops 1hs and forces Arms lootspec
remote bobcat
valid criticism imo
orchid dagger
Like either bake it in (and it might not even be that much of a debuff), or make it cosmetic
It's 2025, why is this not resolved
edgy widget
Like either bake it in (and it might not even be that much of a debuff), or make...
baking it in wouldn't make it any better
I think the argument is that it being a dedicated choice better informs players that it is an alternative
but idk, I didn't make the thing and if it were up to me it'd just be removed entirely in favor of transmog 
warm crag
Meanwhile, as Fury still drops 1hs and forces Arms lootspec
why do you want a harder time gearing lol
edgy widget
He doesn't; he just likes the idea of 1h more than 2h and wants to play what he wants to play, which I get
But you can't expect what you want to necessarily be optimal either 
orchid dagger
why do you want a harder time gearing lol
Walk up to pvp vendor
Buy 1hs
Problem solved
edgy widget
within that ilvl range anyway
warm crag
Walk up to pvp vendor
Buy 1hs
Problem solved
this is a solution for 3 people globally
edgy widget
but if that solves your problem, then arms loot spec really isn't a problem, either
marsh current
Guys, is there like a mastery cap rn?
chrome plover
theres a point at which mastery loses value, but that point will depend on your other stats/gear, there hasnt been specific caps for a very long time and it's always recommended to sim your own character
marsh current
i have such a hard time on chosing how to continue gearing
chrome plover
continue to do keys at the highest level you can up to 10 and clearing as much of the raid on the highest difficulty possible
if you're looking for a specific dungeon or two to farm you should use the droptimiser tab on raidbots
sim your character that way and it'll show what dungeon has the best upgrades for you
you can look at the bis lists on guide websites but take them with a pinch of salt becasue some decisions are only made with all of the other items on that list
edgy widget
i have such a hard time on chosing how to continue gearing
assuming you don't want to bother with raidbots, you're pretty much going full haste/mastery until you get into the 660+ range, at which point haste/vers tends to take over a little
marsh current
ah no, i meant specific choices. 😄
I sit at 24k mastery, that sounds like an awful lot compared to murlok.io
edgy widget
that is starting to get on the high end, yes
marsh current
currently timed my first +14, feeling like i am locked in progression if i dont get lucky in vaults
edgy widget
but again, it's not as simple as X > Y until A, then Z > Y
which is exactly why we use complicated robots to figure it out for us
chrome plover
i have around 25k mastery (largely because of jastors) and sims still want me to gem mastery/haste and not change other items from mastery
marsh current
alright, so sim is > general rules?
chrome plover
always
orchid dagger
alright, so sim is > general rules?
For pve yes
edgy widget
obviously, or else it wouldn't have much reason to exist lol
remote bobcat
i have such a hard time on chosing how to continue gearing
if you want to try and be as optimal as possible, sim your character. Our general rules that are established depend on sims themselves. Sims always give the more accurate answer
marsh current
well archi, taking into consideration that vers also helps survivability
thats why i am asking
marsh current
well but it is still a decision and i dont know how to continue.. 😄
edgy widget
like you could decide you want more vers for survivability (although you generally don't, because the returns are so small), regardless of the DPS valuation
edgy widget
exactly as trustable as the disclaimer on that page says
barren stone
radiant plank
Versa for survivability is fake btw
orchid dagger
Versa for survivability is fake btw
For pve lol
radiant plank
especially if u are not doing r1 world keys
edgy widget
but also, hyper focusing on min/maxed stats is kind of a waste of time since the performative difference is so small; as long as you're in the general ballpark, you're fine and that 0.2% difference between 60% mastery or 58% mastery is going to have no impact on your success/failure in a M+
chrome plover
that looks weird how is haste that high
marsh current
alright, one last question then: on murloc most guys play circes, but a crafted ring sims 50k dps better for me... is that because you dont want to waste a spark on a ring, or is there another reason?
edgy widget
that looks weird how is haste *that* high
haste gets really good again at higher gear levels
radiant plank
did u check the ringslot properly
chrome plover
mine have them all within a few points
edgy widget
but also I'm fairly certain that's a multitarget sim, cause normal weight for ST is more like 24-27
radiant plank
sounds sus if its 50k upgrade over cyrces
remote bobcat
sounds sus if its 50k upgrade over cyrces
in aoe maybe
marsh current
ye, dungeonslice sim
chrome plover
o
radiant plank
dslice dent
chrome plover
but also I'm fairly certain that's a multitarget sim, cause normal weight for ST...
yeah mine are pretty close
crit 
edgy widget
I posted a scaling plot somewhere around here a few weeks ago, lemme see if I can find it again
marsh current
I posted a scaling plot somewhere around here a few weeks ago, lemme see if I ca...
❤️
edgy widget
not really going to be helpful for you lol
edgy widget
how trustable is the stat weight thing in raidbots?
what you want to do is primarily use top gear and the droptimizer
chrome plover
ur gear is cracked
edgy widget
oh yeah I'm fed af
edgy widget
acutally I lied, that graph was from April 8th, so I was only 672 
chrome plover
"only"
edgy widget
I'm 676.7 in my pad gear lol, but more like 674 in actual
I upgraded a bunch of extra shit to try to get the gilded achievement to pop lol
but yeah I'm fed af
chrome plover
i think if i saved 30 crests last week and crafted ring+neck this week i'd be 675
and (potentially) get the achievement
which is a bit sad
edgy widget
did you see my article on the achievement? it's broked as hell
chrome plover
yeye
edgy widget
I wasted 90 crests trying to get it to pop lol
chrome plover
god
edgy widget
turns out all I had to do was spec prot 
edgy widget
I really hope someone appreciated the irony of my header image
chrome plover
i did
edgy widget
674 ilvl to get an achievement that requires 675 ilvl, while being almost 677 ilvl in bags
that is PEAK blizzard 🍝
limber oar
Genuine question. If i have 3/3 great vault sockets on myth track/crafted pieces, what do i even take in my vaukt if all the items are bad?
chrome plover
do you know what "mainhandweapon" actually is
limber oar
Or do i just cry
chrome plover
because mine comes up as 10 lmao
chrome plover
Genuine question. If i have 3/3 great vault sockets on myth track/crafted pieces...
half a spark
limber oar
Does that half spark count against the weekly half you get?
edgy widget
i hit 673 and killed gally this week
We got to Gally this week and I stole your CD timing btw 🤝
very good performance, though I think you coulda squeezed in one more Reck before the 4m add set
chrome plover
Does that half spark count against the weekly half you get?
it's separate
limber oar
Oh ok ty
polar narwhal
@edgy widget Can I DM you about something Wowhead related?
chrome plover
We got to Gally this week and I stole your CD timing btw 🤝
very good performa...
good luck! it was a breath of fresh air after oab/mug i enjoyed it, i didnt mind that it was an "easy" endboss
edgy widget
<@61282228017041408> Can I DM you about something Wowhead related?
sure...
that sounds like a really loaded question lol
polar narwhal
woven valley
Archi is like “how is the message going to ruin my day?” Kek
chrome plover
We got to Gally this week and I stole your CD timing btw 🤝
very good performa...
and also thank you, i probably coulda squeezed out one more I havent really reflected on it yet
polar narwhal
Anyone else notice that Wrath and Fury doesn't increase Raging Blow damage outside of Enrage? (Not that it matters much, but the tooltip description indicates that it should, and only the 10% chance to reset when Enrage.)
marsh current
guys, one more question here..: im having a bit of a situation with my trinkets.
Rn i have only signet available, all would be 665
how much better would the bandit trinket be? 😄
chrome plover
it's another sim question
plush zephyr
Whatever the robot says
remote bobcat
the robot giveth and the robot taketh away
gilded pawn
edgy widget
Anyone else notice that Wrath and Fury doesn't increase Raging Blow damage outsi...
Yeah, it's an old bug, but given that we're enraged practically all the time it's not been important enough for them to fix
edgy widget
they did, I didn't make an updates post about it yet because I'm fighting a fever and passed out almost as soon as my raid ended last night
I didn't even realize I wasn't wearing Kezan or Circlet for the entire raid lmao
coarse nest
Oh man that stinks! Get well soon.
It must be going around we had 2 guildies raiding sick last night too
flat river
they did, I didn't make an updates post about it yet because I'm fighting a feve...
Get well soon archi
I'll cook some warrior reworks in the meantime
coarse nest
51% on oab yesterday so that was fun
junior gale
they did, I didn't make an updates post about it yet because I'm fighting a feve...
Give me the power I'll do it trust
leaden marlin
Mechano or SED? I got the drink byt is it worth the chew on getting the amp?
Running myth peacemaker with hc EOK anyway
runic acorn
Are Mechano Core sims still bugged? It's simming higher for me
warm crag
should sim accurately to ingame
remote bobcat
Are Mechano Core sims still bugged? It's simming higher for me
higher than what
cause it's a good trinket
marble schooner
I was checking my logs for Sprocket M and it seems Im casting Ramp way less than top warriors (around 14cpm for me, 18cpm for top fury) is there a way I can compare my wasted rage on logs?
marble schooner
ah yeah I insta found it lmao ty
chrome plover
marble schooner
fml im wasting so much rage lmao
1600 wasted rage thats like 20 rampage casts
thats where all my ramp cpm is going
S.s
grand verge
So besides cds Rampage >all?
runic acorn
higher than what
mechano core simming higher than heroic versions of every trinket for me. Some myth simming higher like kezan, pacemaker, viscera, and cards
pacemaker only barely at max like 3k dps
remote bobcat
mechano core simming higher than heroic versions of every trinket for me. Some m...
yea that's pretty much exactly what we expect to see from mechano
runic acorn
ok, cool, good to know
remote bobcat
It's a really good trinket
I assume you're thinking its bad because it's only like 8th in the bloodmallet list?
runic acorn
Nah, thought the bug with sims was making it seem better than it was but that should be fixed. Makes sense it's just good.
remote bobcat
Nah, thought the bug with sims was making it seem better than it was but that sh...
that was something from like 2 months ago
marble schooner
fml im wasting so much rage lmao
most of my wasted rage comes from RB and im doing the RB spam after BS tech, I assume any Fury that doesnt have rage wasted on RB isnt doing the tech, is it not worth it to do it?
I thought it was an (albeit small) dps gain
over just instasending ramp after BS (or SD>Ramp if x3 marks)
remote bobcat
imma be real most dps losses come from downtime on sprocket
marble schooner
cool so then Im not really wasting that much rage, mostly on execute which I guess some ppl prefer to send ramp and then SD if at 130 rage and I dont
remote bobcat
like how during prog some guilds make their melee leave boss early to go from one side to another, dropping downtime
rips ur parse
marble schooner
like how during prog some guilds make their melee leave boss early to go from on...
we dont, but I always get 2nd set of mines
thank god im void elf so I void rift the move
and then leap the mine
and charge back usually
marble schooner
elf is baelf
chrome plover
goblin jump bis
turbid gate
is there any good weakaura with the timer to leap/charge on mythic mugzhee?
out of goon prisions?
oblique trail
I'd recommend just not trying as it's very easy to misplace the prisons by leap/charging
turbid gate
is it possible to leap onto the prison wall by any chance? xD
oblique trail
You'd have to do either at about 0.1~ sec of the cast time left
oblique trail
is it possible to leap onto the prison wall by any chance? xD
To my knowledge no there's no jank spot to leap to and get out
With current gear and raid buffs, it should not be a dps check as much as just living the fight, so just accept being sat in the gaol for a bit if you get it (without breaking too early) and there's no rescue for you
edgy widget
Yeah, only reason leap sort of works on jails is because the effect is materializing as you're moving, can't go in or out the way a DH can
check is super easy though, and I actually kinda liked doing a jail since it means I don't ever have to do frost spears
marble schooner
idk why I cast like 50% more rb than ramp/bt (about same ammount of ramp and bt casts) while other warriors got all 3 at the same cast ammount
like id get it if we still ran old RA where it was rb>bt>ramp spam
oblique trail
Assuming you maintain full uptime and do the rotation properly, you should not be that far ahead on RB casts
Are you BT'ing at 90-100%~ crit rate every time above all else, are you rampaging at 80-100 rage (depending on RB charges available), are you RB spamming after every BS while you're also enraged
remote bobcat
usually BT casts increase a shitton by the time VC range hits
so it evens out a lil bit
marble schooner
Are you BT'ing at 90-100%~ crit rate every time above all else, are you rampagin...
yes kinda and yes
I never ramp at 80-100, always at 100+
maybe 95
marble schooner
usually BT casts increase a shitton by the time VC range hits
but at that point it kinda becomes RA rotation no?
so whatever ammount RB "pulls ahead" till that point
remote bobcat
but at that point it kinda becomes RA rotation no?
a lil bit
marble schooner
maybe ill record myself and see if someone is bored enough to tell me what im doing wrong
cause im at a loss
sinful spoke
this is from all my pulls last night
on bandit
this is our other warrior
he has so many more rb and bt casts
remote bobcat
maybe ill record myself and see if someone is bored enough to tell me what im do...
vod review always coolio
just make sure you have a UI that people can follow
honest sundial
Signup guys the boss is waiting for you
marble schooner
just make sure you have a UI that people can follow
ye my UI is clean enough I think
sinful spoke
i tried to do more rb and bt but i end up wasting a lot of rage if i do that
but he ends up doing more dmg still so i feel like i should just overcap rage for it
remote bobcat
this is from all my pulls last night
1.4k BT casts to 300 RB casts? what the fuck yall doin
marble schooner
1.4k BT casts to 300 RB casts? what the fuck yall doin
it must be counting the WW cleaved BTs from Ravager
sinful spoke
1.4k BT casts to 300 RB casts? what the fuck yall doin
i mean rb casts include ravager no?
and ww
marble schooner
as an individual cast
remote bobcat
i guess so
sinful spoke
this was our lowest pull 22%
marble schooner
just make sure you have a UI that people can follow
how was it that you enabled Details to display spells casted?
remote bobcat
how was it that you enabled Details to display spells casted?
wasnt that a plug-in
or some shit
idk
i know theres a weakaura for it
marble schooner
yeah its this one ill see how to enable it 
merry imp
Where does execute lie in the cleave priority? I assume it’s more useful to cast bloodthirst but what about raging blow?
marble schooner
marble schooner
aight I think a minute-ish is enough, and <35% prio is more set in stone than before so no use in also recording that I guess
happy to get some feedback c:
modest condor
Signup guys the boss is waiting for you
loboz build
remote bobcat
Where does execute lie in the cleave priority? I assume it’s more useful to cast...
depends on build
but usually very low
marble schooner
also you can see I had packet loss at some point that usually doesnt happen lmao internet just decided to troll my recording
remote bobcat
aight I think a minute-ish is enough, and <35% prio is more set in stone than be...
you also roar pre-BS like me
🤝
i think it's sliiiightly more optimal to roar after the thick rampage btw
I'd have to check
marble schooner
i think it's sliiiightly more optimal to roar after the thick rampage btw
I went around and I think its like within 0.1%
like literally less than 0.1%
remote bobcat
yea sounds about right
marble schooner
you're general gameplay is good idk what to tell you man
damn maybe my luck is just goated and I get x2 resets on RB compared to other warriors
remote bobcat
and i know you know that you're good
everything left to improve on for you are small optimizations
so if you end up parsing poorly then it's most likely due to uptime issues
or some similar crap
ykwim?
marble schooner
yup, good thing about sprocket prog is that most of the times boss movement is similar so I can like think ahead and plan my movement for the fight
id say I have mapped out movement and cd usage for most of the fight, one thing I realized is that its kind of a waste to send Ava/Reck on 1st set of empowered beams (after 1st intermission) cause right after that you have to run to the other side and theres like forced downtime if you are red and very iffy uptime if you are blue
grand condor
For M Stix reclears, are you guys peeling off boss to go find clumps of debuffed adds for parses? We had a really messy first kill, and then on our rekill all the boomkins just killed everything before it got close to melee range
tall terrace
which warrior wa you running?
marble schooner
which warrior wa you running?
Luxthos
remote bobcat
For M Stix reclears, are you guys peeling off boss to go find clumps of debuffed...
if im going for parses im going for parses, fuck stix we sniping adds
then again, im on mugzee extending every ID
so i cant go for parses even if i wanted to
grand condor
same lmao
warm crag
For M Stix reclears, are you guys peeling off boss to go find clumps of debuffed...
the boss is parse disabled and no serious guild will care for a stix parse
warm crag
pink number on stix is a self report not a flex
smoky vale
pink number on stix is a self report not a flex
i got an orange
spare steppe
how do we get dinars to include heroic delve trinkets
sullen dove
i got an orange <:gladge:963970137701109820>
cluegi
fast mural
they should have made ball dmg count towards your parse instad of disabling it
fast mural
but it would be funny af
remote bobcat
but it would be funny af
merry imp
but usually very low
Nice Ty
fair thistle
nice mog, race change pls
for what race in the horde ?
rich veldt
vulpera
marble schooner
i dont like how short the blades are tbh
Enchant app makes it look a lil longer
remote bobcat
highest secondary stat iirc
marble schooner
ah
fickle cedar
i cant do this with my orc smh, good mog btw
remote bobcat
What wep is it
new wep from trading post
eager thorn
Ah nice ty
gleaming siren
/simc
warm crag
/wa
compact siren
/simc
covert blaze
/her
marble schooner
i cant do this with my orc smh, good mog btw
ay thanks c=
glad coyote
when does 11.1.7 come out?
modest condor
yes
daring laurel
Probably 2025
dense fulcrum
Any suggestion on what to craft next? i was thinking about cloak or necklace (?) https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rvsE2Ww61njmuZtonksZzL
sweet palm
remote bobcat
fury doesnt need a change
modest condor
🧢
remote bobcat
it would be nice, but we don't need it
modest condor
🧢
look at the dps difference between fury and just about every other spec in m+ and say that again with a straight face
remote bobcat
you mean how we are 10% ahead of every other spec
?
modest condor
im pretty sure a boomkin could use the 1 button rotation and still beat us
remote bobcat
look at the dps difference between fury and just about every other spec in m+ an...
I mean i get you, but i dont think it's that big of a deal
modest condor
as someone who is trying to push title, it is a big deal for me
plush zephyr
I mean i get you, but i dont think it's that big of a deal
It is
modest condor
not being able to do certain pulls because i cant hit all the mobs so they stay alive for too long sucks
remote bobcat
was title spec dependant or class dependant?
modest condor
saw a cool pull at the start of priory in a 17
we tried it in a 15 and barely managed to finish it off before we ran out of aoe stops
if we could actually do that pull in a push key it would make the first pull so much easier
but alas, we cant because im target capped so i dont do aoe damage
remote bobcat
as someone who is trying to push title, it is a big deal for me
but arent you competing with other warriors?
modest condor
no
modest condor
if i was title would be a joke
remote bobcat
i dont do m+
except for raids
and for fun with the boys
so idk much about title
merry imp
does unbridled ferocity happen and add to an already existing recklessness?
rotund ginkgo
modest condor
yes
merry imp
trying to decide between it and another point in the mastery and BT enrage perk
deft experience
smoky vale
uf XDD
merry imp
ok cool thats what i run right now just dont ever remember noticing it happen could just not pay enough attention
south kayak
gz
modest condor
grats
dense elbow
The impossible happened, gz!
plush zephyr
i dont do m+
Then don’t say we don’t need a change lol. Just because we’re doing well in raid doesn’t mean we aren’t far behind in M+ in terms of overall damage.
remote bobcat
Then don’t say we don’t need a change lol. Just because we’re doing well in raid...
i still think we dont need one, it's fair to give fury more aoe in m+ but it's not necessary, the spec isn't dead dead
need is a strong word, people use it too much
honest sundial
i still think we dont **need** one, it's fair to give fury more aoe in m+ but it...
yes fury does need m+/aoe oriented buff
plush zephyr
i still think we dont **need** one, it's fair to give fury more aoe in m+ but it...
I don’t think you should wait for an entire class to start quitting to make a change.
dense elbow
Need is a very strong word. We need OF to be buffed to be impactful, we need buffs to become a more viable option to be picked. We don't need the buffs to do content, we can do most to all content just 'fine'.
Problem is, doing it just 'fine', isnt exactly fun. I would argue buffs would be great for the fun factor of the spec, that is for sure.
smoky vale
LETS GOOOO
fuck you bitch
flat river
fuck you bitch
gala57 why u angry
smoky vale
because you said 4 bad words just now
flat river
which are
dense elbow
Gala57 schizo moment strikes again
vernal laurel
i still think we dont **need** one, it's fair to give fury more aoe in m+ but it...
No, we need serious developer time. Being hard capped to 5 targets in a M+ context is terrible and outdated game design. We do not use most of our capstone talents cause they straight up suck. We dont play with Odyns fury in M+ cause it sucks. We are doing less dmg than augmentation evokers in keys right now......
stoic loom
No, we **need** serious developer time. Being hard capped to 5 targets in a M+ c...
ye bro but noxiv qualified for the mdi
dense elbow
Does it matter if we are capped to 5, if we still keep up on the overall value in a key? Not to mention if we carry the ST profile in the dung, allowing others effective overall to be higher too, as they are not grinding as long on bosses.
stoic loom
so fury must be good!
dense elbow
Some buffs to our nodes would make gameplay more fun. But it isn't needed. Aurabuffs would also fix any issue on the overall, if we are found lacking.
stoic loom
Does it matter if we are capped to 5, if we still keep up on the overall value i...
you dont keep up on the overall value in a key tho, and you certainly dont carry the ST profile enough to warrant being 20% behind in aoe/overall
didnt think id see funkykitty succumb to the prio damage copium
dense elbow
Ye, I agree. But it isn't needed to complete the keys, as we using that term.
Would it be more fun? Sure
Needed, no.
stoic loom
Ye, I agree. But it isn't needed to complete the keys, as we using that term.
have you tried pugging 15s? Because i sure as fuck cant get any invites to anything higher than 14 on my warrior
but on my shaman, i get instantly invited
So i'd say because of the perception of the community, you DO need buffs to play fury in high keys rn
humble shadow
Does anyone know where to find guilds that will boost undermine bosses for the dinar system? Never done it before and was just wonder if there is a discord for this or something
dense elbow
I agree it would be QoL and funfactor. But you dont need it.
stoic loom
I've literally had like 2 people leave after the first pull in a key because they see me doing 8m dps in a 20 mob pull with lust
stoic loom
I agree it would be QoL and funfactor. But you dont need it.
Yeah sure, then nobody ever needs any buffs
dense elbow
Kinda boils down to if we can do the content or not, if we can keep up. It is proven that we can. As such, it is not needed at this point.
modest condor
they could soft cap us to 5 instead of hard cap, that would double our dps on some of the first pulls, and we would still get gapped by the meta dps
vernal laurel
they could soft cap us to 5 instead of hard cap, that would double our dps on so...
Agreed, even doing that would not make us any kind of meta, but it would be acceptable
dense elbow
Or they could just make our AoE nodes do dam? Buff OF 125% and we suddenly great on those gigapulls. Our overall will increase 5-6%, putting us up there with the rest of the mid-tier DPS.
vernal laurel
Our prio dmg is fine, but its absolutely not worth it to take our dmg profile over any other currently good dps spec
stoic loom
Kinda boils down to if we can do the content or not, if we can keep up. It is pr...
it does in fact not boil down to if you can do the content or not
or there would never be raid focused buffs
modest condor
Or they could just make our AoE nodes do dam? Buff OF 125% and we suddenly great...
we've seen what happens if they make OF strong
stoic loom
Why did boomkins get raid focused buffs? They were already clearing the content
vernal laurel
Or they could just make our AoE nodes do dam? Buff OF 125% and we suddenly great...
Sure, if they revert the OF and Roar nerfs back to doing dmg beyond 8 targets....
stoic loom
We need buffs because they need to maintain some semblance of balance
saying "we're timing keys so we dont need buffs" isnt a real argument
vernal laurel
The 5 target experiment has clearly failed, hoping for them to correct it now
modest condor
afaik the roar target cap still only applies to the initial hit
coarse nest
First two weeks were sick I was top 3 consistently every boss now I’m completely out scaled
south kayak
S C A L I N G
vernal laurel
afaik the roar target cap still only applies to the initial hit
Even then, roar is such a boring ability.... pressing it feels awful
We need something that sells our class, a good selling point, something more flashy, fun and an actual reason to bring us to keys
dense elbow
Roar doesn't need a buff tho, it is warrior talent and does decent ish dam, 7-8% overall, seems alright. Our specialised AoE burst talent is worth 3-4%.
vernal laurel
Roar doesn't need a buff tho, it is warrior talent and does decent ish dam, 7-8%...
I would not advocate for a roar buff true, I would just like it to get replaced with something more fun
and dont even get me started on spear.....
fickle cedar
As long as they lean more into the bleed aspect of fury I'll be happy since they seem to have a problem with our burst (s1 incident)
rose bay
Remember
coarse nest
They could make rally apply a 15%-20% Dr in dungeon content
rose bay
if fury does aoe damage
dense elbow
If you want bleeds, go feral
rose bay
nerf
coarse nest
That’d be pretty relevant
rose bay
if any other class does aoe damageh
buff
cant let th scarry odens fury make people reroll no that would be 2 strong
vernal laurel
if any other class does aoe damageh
fickle cedar
yeah but balance needs more st damage poggers
vernal laurel
True, cant allow fury to be decent a single patch since vanilla
vernal laurel
Announcing new changes to Fury warrior!
- Odyns fury now heals enemies! Let your teammates pad more on the meters!
- We feel that warriors utility toolkit is a little to good, so we are now attaching a cost of 50 rage to Shockwave, to bring it more into balance with other stuns, and also allow for deeper more intricate decision making, exciting!
- Rallying cry is performing a little better than we would like it to in 5-man content, so we are tuning the health gained down to 1%, so as to not make Fury too desired in that group size
median marsh
the loyal customer raid buff, i getr it when i hit lvl 10 or only after i am taking the quest inside the raid after lvl 10?
elfin belfry
cant let th scarry odens fury make people reroll no that would be 2 strong
Are you crazy?! After what that was capable of on only 1 boss fight in an entire raid out of 8 bosses, where they were nothing special outside of that they definitely needed to be nerfed 
rose bay
Are you crazy?! After what that was capable of on only 1 boss fight in an entire...
Hey!
lets not forget heroic week
people couldent play there classes cause the mean warrior was hitting there global
shoulda fucking sandbagged week 1 for buffs
oh blizzard were so week
please a wittle buff
tepid cedar
I’ve given up hope for any buffs this season. Tis is life lol
rose bay
im just coaping and hoping we get a tallent reshuffle
i, fucking doubt it
but whatever lets me sleep at night
royal copper
Oh my... it happend..
I'm playing Slayer now, switched from MT. (Raid)
-- Is it still use all the Rampage as possible -> BT at 80% (Whirlwind as filler, or in aoe situation) ?
rose bay
theres 2 weakauras thatll help with that
or 1 but yeah just rb till the wa lights up
no think only rb rampage
its in the macro/wa in the dps-faq channel
remote bobcat
Oh my... it happend..
I'm playing Slayer now, switched from MT. (Raid)
-- Is...
BT at 80%? you talkin about crit chance?
burnt kelp
shoulda fucking sandbagged week 1 for buffs
That's exactly what I told everyone
tepid cedar
lol it’s crazy. I was doing my weekly dungeon for vault. Played fkn flawless on a 10 cinder. Aside from 1 death at start pull cause tank died. Finished with like 4.4 mil. Again played flawlesss…. A 663 pally finished with like 3.7…. And I’m basically BIS 671. Jastor ring and all 😂😂😂
burnt kelp
But I got booed out of the room
Always sandbag first week, the other classes do it too
royal copper
BT at 80%? you talkin about crit chance?
Yes
remote bobcat
ye
rose bay
i dont think theres really a clean answer honstly, it sucks that, as much as i hate it, having all our damage be a bleed is the answer, just so that we dont get such a kneejerk reaction
theres probably a more optimal solution, i personally wouldn't mind if a ton of the cds just got turned to steroids, rather then direct damage,
or if we ended up going the arms route and we had 2 stack 2-3 bu ffs up to 10 be4 being aple to just piss at full power, it really feels like it was just cause it was insta, unlime mm cause the 3 seconds they have to channel is enough iguess
idk im not a dev so all my shit is also a kneejerk reaction
burnt kelp
I mean the answer is pretty simple, don't make some specs be hard capped at 5 while others are soft capped at 8
and others can do 50M pulls
coarse nest
Hope they cave and give us soft cap after 8 like everyone else
dense elbow
Softcap on our hardcap 5 on MC, I am not that fond of. As it really restricts how much ST we can bring in a key, before we are broken AF. More AoE for our AoE tools, OF and Bladestorm? Hell yes.
coarse nest
I’m sure there’s a way they could make meatcleave not be too broken at 8 targets while not fucking our ST
Just would need some effort put in to design
flat river
Softcap on our hardcap 5 on MC, I am not that fond of. As it really restricts ho...
or hardcap at 8 instead
buff out BS and OF aswell
😭
and make Reckless Abandon baseline
why do demon hunters get improved basic abilities baseline
but not us
smh
dense elbow
We cant ask for both, it would be too big of a buff
flat river
and make it while recklessness is active our enrage effects are increased by 33% (by that i mean powerful enrage or frenzied enrage)
dense elbow
Either BS and OF is buffed to do dam, or we get MC changed
if we get both, we get broken good and fast
It is a question if flat DPS profile wins, or bursty
coarse nest
Ngl I think I’d like OF and BS back to being wicked burst so the damn demon hunters can’t steal all the pad
Smh
dense elbow
Wicked strong burst is a ton of fun, if nothing else
coarse nest
Amen
coarse nest
Could do big OF and Bs again, with meatcleaver at 5 target softcap instead of hardcap
Balance all of that
Would feel good
flat river
BS is 8 target softcap
flat river
why u wanna nerf us 😭
dense elbow
BS is softcapped at 8, it just does 0 dam
coarse nest
Sorry I meant meatcleaver 5T softcap
tepid cedar
Make spear have baseline champions might and 45sec cd reduction as end talent
flat river
it is what 2million dam over the duration?
its balanced so when we deal ST in raid we arent OP
chilly fractal
Make spear have baseline champions might and 45sec cd reduction as end talent
Nah I prefer the 45 second duration
flat river
real
it is so damned bad
flat river
wish we could tuuuurn back tiiiime
chilly fractal
Would you find a way?
dense elbow
I wonder if we will ever see bladestorm do damage, or if it is forever shackled to the potential value of unhinged
so it cant do dam
probably forever shackled to the value of BT
If they made it so Storm of Steel increased bladestorm damage by 150%, we could be talking some dam tho
actually make it a choice node
coarse nest
They could just make the free BT from unhinged a set value with the potential to Crit
And then they could make bldestorm do as much as they want
dense elbow
You dont enjoy it not reaping, and you doing negative dam?
weird
Each reap is ish 1/3rd of a BS, so you got a chance to highroll actually doing "ok" dam during the storm
but even if you do highroll, it is just "ok"
cursive pivot
should we use dungeon slice or patchwork? for simming, i forgot
dense elbow
I recommend doing patchwerk, as it is easier to find out what you want to know. Just 1 target for ST, and 5t and 8t sims to get some AoE feel.
cursive pivot
cause, patchwork is tellling me to use seaforium, dungeon slice is telling me to use mechano core
dense elbow
Both are solid, of the two I prefer seaforium myself. Just do a couple of keys with both, and see if you are happy with things
How does it look on ST?
cursive pivot
i have been doing Patchowrk 1t and 5t. but i wanted to see what dungeon slice would say
i believe ST is mechano core
looking in a few. running 8t patchwork now
yeah 8t with mechano is -28k dps on patchwork
ok so im sticking with seaforium. my mechano is still 658 cause my luck sucks, lol.
thank you for the info
tepid cedar
They could just make the free BT from unhinged a set value with the potential to...
Also same blizz that could make our new cpus be used properly to fix a lot of these performance issues. Buuutttttt let’s not work on things and release a .2gcd 1 button rotation to make more mo ey when Xbox port gets announced in midnight
dense elbow
Just have fun with it, wont make a big change to things either way
cursive pivot
true, nothing too impressive.
coarse nest
Watch it be spam X for basic rotation and your cooldowns and utility are bound to the rest of the buttons
Honestly I’m for it
tepid cedar
i have been doing Patchowrk 1t and 5t. but i wanted to see what dungeon slice wo...
Suspicious drink and mechano, suspicious is better in 99% of the cases from thane to both raid builds
The only time mechano wins is in thane MT and wins by like 15k but suspicious does 15k in ST more.
cursive pivot
mine is 658 still
tepid cedar
My goal is to pair a 678 house with my 678 pace.
coarse nest
Now that pacemaker is on dinar vendor I wonder if HoC/pace is the play
Like yeah eye is good but eye also doesn’t help prog
Only farm
tepid cedar
I think it’s the best build brewji
coarse nest
Eye also sucks in keys
cursive pivot
and my raid team is still on gally heroic
tepid cedar
That alone makes it amazing not having to swap for shit
coarse nest
It’ll feel turbo bad to get one in your vault the following week though
Honestly
Still think I’m doing best in slots > HoC > hold for jastor
cursive pivot
yeah. im goin for mythic items from m+ slots
but if something from raid sims way higher then i'll go with that
tepid cedar
Current st sim with suspicious!
dense elbow
I sim 1.7m in current build
tepid cedar
1 boss 5min
coarse nest
My ST arms sim was 2.6m last night
Idk how the hell you’re at 2.74
That’s wicked juiced
coarse nest
140k is a lot
remote bobcat
140k difference from sim a lone
tepid cedar
One sec
dense elbow
If I am 2.6 in my scuffed gear, is it that unlikely?
dense elbow
Hms, k
modest condor
i wonder what i sim in slayer
remote bobcat
ignore 2.7, you had 2.74, thats an extra 50.000 damage compared to this sim
modest condor
lol no you dont just proc 50k dps in a sim
remote bobcat
people go crazy for a 50k dps increase
tepid cedar
Sim from that screenshot
coarse nest
Probably 4 minute or something
tepid cedar
Nah
dense elbow
people go crazy for a 50k dps increase
go crazy >:)
tepid cedar
Same exact thing brew
coarse nest
Maybe it was some latest cook that was edited right away back to normal
modest condor
PI
remote bobcat
PI
coarse nest
tepid cedar
Hahaha
coarse nest
I dream about PI in my sims too
tepid cedar
Ahhhhh I know what it was
coarse nest
modest condor
damn my sim is low https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2tWRw4ntb17XLBHSiLcvyT
tepid cedar
I get PI in my guild
coarse nest
FURY WARRIOR
remote bobcat
tf
fickle cedar
yeah but its fun
tepid cedar
But I was doing test with enrage or 15%
remote bobcat
an idiot UHDK will use it better than u
dense elbow
damn my sim is low https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2tWRw4ntb17XLBHSiLcvyT
Beaten by the kitty, smh
tepid cedar
I’m in a very causal guild now
modest condor
me neither
fickle cedar
damn my sim is low https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2tWRw4ntb17XLBHSiLcvyT
temu ring wtf
modest condor
ive killed 4 normal bosses this tier and that's it
modest condor
i think a heroic one is 1% for me
summer quail
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nczr3LhbojyyEYVXcqhXr8 jastor would push me over 2.7
tepid cedar
Is jastor big?
Jastor was huge for me in a key
remote bobcat
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nczr3LhbojyyEYVXcqhXr8 jastor would push ...
why does it show ur circlet as 619
😭
summer quail
why does it show ur circlet as 619
idk
dense elbow
bug, I presume
fickle cedar
big, need a better trinket than mechano 658 :/
dense elbow
Any actually raid geared sims?
dense elbow
Time to quicksim
tepid cedar
Time to quicksim
Dude last night I hit a 15 mill burst on opening cinder pull. This was right after I got jastor. It was big
remote bobcat
Dude last night I hit a 15 mill burst on opening cinder pull. This was right af...
as fury?
tepid cedar
Yes
tepid cedar
I fucking died cause tank died but I finished at 4.4 mil
Jastor and gem reshuffle was huge
dense elbow
Dude last night I hit a 15 mill burst on opening cinder pull. This was right af...
I gotten that, but that was with alchi proc and pot, with prestacked BS
Not that it is a lot, when ppl do 30-40m, and I end up at 6m
just depression
tepid cedar
I need today go run 16:s
oblique trail
why does it show ur circlet as 619
Just tooltip issue, don't take wowhead/raidbots tooltips 100% serious
tepid cedar
Been at 3300 io for like over an month I think lol
remote bobcat
Just tooltip issue, don't take wowhead/raidbots tooltips 100% serious
never intended to
just found it funny
oblique trail
It's actually 658 in practice and the sim recognises it as 658
dense elbow
I been 3k for months now, I just do 13s and chill with resi key
tepid cedar
I want to see what I’ll finish at on a high key
dense elbow
Fury in keys, not worth the squeeze
tepid cedar
Might hit over 5 or 5.5 I’m thinking
dense elbow
5m overall in Cinder? Kinda doubt that, 4m is pushing it, no?
dense elbow
Oh, question before we go on
tepid cedar
This was a 10. I can def push that on higher key
dense elbow
we talking details combat only?
tepid cedar
Yeaaaa
dense elbow
Best I done is 4m, and that was a 13, so I can see you do 4-5m
5+m tho, will be impressive
Guess it depends tho, when I think about it. A lot of DPS can be gained pulling things under boss
16s ya also get it for longer
tepid cedar
Yea
dense elbow
Hey, will be fun to see where you end up
tepid cedar
I just haven’t felt the urge to push anymore man
Having to put in 5x the amount of work to keep up for title just demotivated me lol
dense elbow
The only thing demotivating me, was the feel of holding back my mates
dense elbow
Sure, they had fun, and all that. But ye.
tepid cedar
I HAD to swap to arms during that time to time a 15 priory and flood
That extra dps was what made the diff
And I still held them back fkn sucks
dense elbow
Nah nah, we do prio dam 
tepid cedar
I know a month ago, the pull after the first boss in priory
plush zephyr
Glad I’m not alone feeling like I’m holding people back.
tepid cedar
Was IMPOSSIBLE AS A FURY
tepid cedar
fkn failed 5x swapped to arms and boom times it
tepid cedar
Nah it was the swap lol
modest condor
I know a month ago, the pull after the first boss in priory
nah i've done that as fury
tepid cedar
When though
modest condor
9 april
chilly fractal
Fury is great prio dam
Gonna get this on my tombstone
dense elbow
modest condor
timed a 15 using that pull on the 11th as well
sullen dove
nice group members you have
modest condor
boomkin and bm hunter
tepid cedar
Damn good for you sil. That’s impressive
modest condor
you wanna know what pull i dont believe in as a fury warrior?
tepid cedar
Mine was April 3rd so maybe that extra week and gear would’ve been little more helpful
But I know I had trouble with that gigantic pull
And just not enough dps
dense elbow
Well, you dont do anything on it
modest condor
dense elbow
so it is not a "you need gear", it is "your team"
sullen dove
real
modest condor
we tried it on a 15 last week and barely made it, no way that's possible with a fury warrior on a 17+
dense elbow
holy, that pull - got a lot of casters
modest condor
yeah the idea is to just kill it before you run out of stops
tepid cedar
http://puu.sh/KsNrt/650f4586c6.png
Is this the pull with all the paladins right before 2nd boss
dense elbow
but you can only hit 5 at a time 
modest condor
but that's not happening with a fury warrior unless you play uhdk + boomkin or something
remote bobcat
This was a 10. I can def push that on higher key
fk ret btw
modest condor
Is this the pull with all the paladins right before 2nd boss
no
sullen dove
lord grant me another myth weapon 
modest condor
we had like
grip into beam into double stun into silence into fear into roar into knock into another knock into another fear etc.
if fury did damage to more than 5 targets we would be able to do it
dense elbow
ST, no raidbuffs
sullen dove
as thane...
sullen dove
lean heart
if fury did damage to more than 5 targets we would be able to do it
theyll swap us to 8 targets eventually right SURELY
sullen dove
meat cleaver almost guaranteed not gonna
dense elbow
I rather they just buff our 8+ tools
sullen dove
Just other aoe things doing more damage
tepid cedar
This was the 15 time. lol key% wasn’t even viewable bc I don’t think many warriors had it timed / even logged lololol godly ass
sullen dove
Some tblast/odyn/roar
modest condor
i'd rather we be able to do damage to more than 5 targets outside of our cooldowns
tepid cedar
i'd rather we be able to do damage to more than 5 targets outside of our cooldow...
Thisssss
modest condor
we had the uncapped cooldowns last season
lean heart
real
sullen dove
But am good guys you have cds so frequently
modest condor
and it still felt bad outside of cooldowns
tepid cedar
Shhhhh
flat river
and it still felt bad outside of cooldowns
dont talk
sullen dove
average gala yap moment
tepid cedar
But nah that’s cause it didn’t have enough logs to compare lol bc no one was using warriors
lean heart
baseline whirlwind 4 meat cleaver to 8
dense elbow
We got enough sustained dam as it is, we flat as fuck.
We need some fun
some dopamine
sullen dove
Yea I mean it is but even then those cds are dogshit
tepid cedar
Really wish slayer worked with ravager as well
Slayer would be soooo good with ravager
dense elbow
Really wish slayer worked with ravager as well
Or hear me out, they buff BS to actually do more dam than it loses channeling?
lean heart
lowkey also feels like avatar as a cd is kinda mid
sullen dove
it’s garbanzo 😭
lean heart
20% more dmg
oh ok
remote bobcat
lowkey also feels like avatar as a cd is kinda mid
lowkey? bro ava is a shit button
highkey
lean heart
tru
tepid cedar
I really think
modest condor
i dont
tepid cedar
Our theory-crafters a fucking with us
modest condor
shit he's onto us
tepid cedar
Dual daggers
lean heart
trvth nvke
tepid cedar
😂😂
modest condor
dagger smf tech is still alive baby
dense elbow
Shiiiet, he found the hidden PvP tech
They gonna nerf it now, ruin my multiglad streak
Well, I just hope we see something positive for Fury going into the next patch
Even if that is a new weapon to have in our offhand increasing our dam 5-10%, I take it
We need the legendary axe DoT again
tepid cedar
BRING BACK GAVEELLLLL
modest condor
(would be 15% with current tuning)
dense elbow
I take it, we need it
modest condor
BRING BACK GAVEELLLLL
no
burnt kelp
BRING BACK GAVEELLLLL
Done, gettiku for season 3
dense elbow
Geti doesnt really help our AoE tho
modest condor
i would unironically rather have geti than gavel
burnt kelp
Now go farm 2 of those bad boys
remote bobcat
bring back siegebreaker so i can macro it to look like cs 🤡
modest condor
you can do that to OF
tepid cedar
I wonder what shadowmourne would look like in today’s standards
burnt kelp
Bring back cs so I can macro it to look like siegebreaker
modest condor
I wonder what shadowmourne would look like in today’s standards
sanctum of domination
remote bobcat
I wonder what shadowmourne would look like in today’s standards
read best in slots
orchid dagger
give us back Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker