#fury

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chrome plover
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tbf when my dk was 640 i was definitely beating some 660 pugs on packs but as soon as we got to a boss.... 💀

chilly fractal
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I just stand at my computer while saluting 🫡 during pulls like the first of Cinderbrew

woven valley
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It absolutely does. Have seen mm hunters bursting for 7 mil

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Within seconds of a pull

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At like 639 ilvl

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Insanity

remote bobcat
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yea in one pull

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but they arent beating you overall

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that does not happen

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what are you smoking

dense elbow
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In low keys, a MM gets proc, that pack is gone. Meaning MM gets a huge DPS lead. Now MM doesnt even need a proc, just Volley and Explosive shot.

I can see in lowkeys packs just being deleted, leaving nothing for the warrior to hit to gain DPS on

modest condor
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remember when it was the other way around

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warrior being the one that deleted the pack before the rest can do anything

dense elbow
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it was glorious

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Sure, they beat us on overall DPS as we went higher and lock/mage got time to pop off. But darned did it feel good to just blast and have that moment of glory.
Bring back beta burst tuning gladge We had a niche

remote bobcat
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OF is bad yeppers

dense elbow
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Just buff it a 125%, and it all guchi

noble elm
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Yeah….they absolutely can if played well

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Mm in particular is only beating arms 20ilvls lower with tier procs tho

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a 640 mm hunter with good lock n load rng could absolutely blast a 660 arms warrior in a key…but I highly doubt it would happen often

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Also kind of useless dps

woven valley
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OF needs to get its DF s3 tier as a talent and it needs like 400 percent buffs

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Mostly joking but man I miss s3 tier

remote bobcat
noble elm
remote bobcat
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not in overall

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procs normalize over multiple packs

noble elm
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100% in overall, 100% proc dependent

remote bobcat
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what are you smoking

noble elm
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It’s why mm is so infuriating to play because you can do 5m overall one dungeon and 3m overall the next because of terrible proc timing

remote bobcat
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gimme some of that

noble elm
sage ridge
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You're basically saying if they get perfect procs at the perfect time they can beat a warrior overall

remote bobcat
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640 mm's aint doing jackshit to 660 arms

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even with good procs

sage ridge
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And even then I doubt it

noble elm
woven valley
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They just need to cap us at 8

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That’s it

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That’s the fix

sage ridge
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Arms 660 played well definitely beats MM at 640 with lucky procs

remote bobcat
woven valley
plush maple
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I know a fix to fury/arms warrior, bring back Siegebreaker instead of Onslaught or OF FingerGuns

woven valley
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I miss playing arms :c mained it for almost a decade

dense elbow
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critcake no siegebreaker, plz

gilded pawn
gilded pawn
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My only complaint is that ms and cleave feels too similar

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That’s it

remote bobcat
plush maple
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Boo

remote bobcat
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oh and warbreaker of course

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some are a cone, some are a circular hitbox, some are a cast, some are instant cast, cleave is aoe version of MS, overpower is generator

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your statement doesn't really make a whole lot of sense to me

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imma be real

warm crag
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fucking cs but put it on fury for no reason

plush maple
warm crag
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they should just not add buttons that are there in arms to fury

plush maple
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Fair enough

gilded pawn
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There should not be off gcds

plush maple
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You want every ability to be in GCD?

warm crag
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off gcd spenders can be fun in arms i kind of liked what IP added to the spec

warm crag
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your name is jimmy

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check your dms

compact siren
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Ok

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Cool vid

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Thanks

plush maple
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Oh wait just realized

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When I said Siegebreaker, I meant BFA Siegebreaker

gilded pawn
plush maple
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For fury

gilded pawn
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I don’t want cds to be on gcd

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Damage off gcd you’ll just macro it to something

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In this case probably just rampage

remote bobcat
plush maple
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Brain did the connecting when Spongie said arms abilities shouldn’t be put in fury and got the idea to look up other siegebreaker

warm crag
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idk what bfa fury siegebreaker is im p sure it was just a 30 second button that increased enemy damage taken

compact siren
gilded pawn
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Yeah so it’s exactly colossus smash

woven valley
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I kind of wish they would make thane shoot lighting during bladestorm/ravager and it chain to enemies to do more aoe

gilded pawn
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In a different coat

woven valley
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Would be really cool visually to just see it zapping all over

plush maple
plush maple
gilded pawn
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Like how rogues can pull other specs cds with sepsis

plush maple
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Fury should be fury and arms should be arms

gilded pawn
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In shadowlands

warm crag
plush maple
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And fury is superior to arms

remote bobcat
warm crag
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to the point where one specs nerfs and buffs have affected other specs cause its literally just the same spell

remote bobcat
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they should have different strengths

warm crag
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idk why fury ever got avatar

gilded pawn
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There are spec specific auras

remote bobcat
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"I press avatar so i can gain....RECKLESSNESS"

gilded pawn
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Avatar most boring damage cd in the game

south kayak
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real

warm crag
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its fine signet just ruined it

potent granite
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yeah its deathwish with a worse name

south kayak
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mutliple cds at least do something, like reck at least increases your rage gen

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avatar is just plain 20% damage on a 1,5m cd

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come on

undone flower
gilded pawn
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Like shadow blade is also 20% buffs

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But also gives full combo points

south kayak
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That's not really true

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it also gives you combo points

gilded pawn
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Yeah

south kayak
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yeah nvm lol

gilded pawn
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Exactly

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And since its shadow damage

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There are other cool implications

potent granite
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well it does give thane 2 stacks of thunderblast

warm crag
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i thought it just increased melee attack cp generation

south kayak
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and Adrenaline Rush makes your gcds shorter and gievs you a shitton of energy gen

potent granite
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and removes our roots xD

gilded pawn
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And it’s flavorful

south kayak
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Dragonrage makes you use a lot more Disintegrates/Pyres

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There needs to be something else that happens when you use avatar

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or remove it idk

remote bobcat
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ig

south kayak
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you know what would be nice

remote bobcat
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avatar casting odyns

south kayak
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if using avatar sent down a bunch of lightning strikes everywhere

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when you used avatar as Thane

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how is this not in the game already

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it's just so flavorful

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you press avatar, and bam, a bunch of ligthing strikes

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simple enough and makes it a better cd

remote bobcat
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i think thats why its not in the game at least

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**

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they already removed OF cast on avatar

south kayak
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Thane isn’t that bursty at all

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Honestly warrior need a rework

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There’s no way we’re supposed to be doing damage to 5 targets only

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When everyone else is doing 8+ soft capped

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That needs to go

woven valley
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Warrior has needed a rework since DF launched. We haven’t gotten a mechanical overhaul in….well so long I can’t even remember

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They keep adding more stuff on top of our older build

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Instead of fixing core issues

south kayak
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Yeah that’s true

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We have too many cds

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We need less

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Our aoe is capped to 5 targets

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Our cds aren’t that impactful

undone flower
fair thistle
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the same discussion

south kayak
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There’s nothing exciting anymore

fair thistle
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same opinions

remote bobcat
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we're playing the same spec since legion with only minor spec differences from season to season yet people always want to go back to this or that season of warrior gameplay

fair thistle
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again and again

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are we in a loop ? xd

south kayak
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Yeah and we’re gonna be in one they change the spec

remote bobcat
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im ngl people just wanna be overpowered

undone flower
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So true

remote bobcat
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im very happy with where fury is

south kayak
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I don’t care about being overpowered if my spec feels old and bad

undone flower
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MM Hunter rotation didn’t change since SL, now it is fun because they have a random explosive shot proc

fair thistle
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just needs a slight buff in AoE and it's a rreally good spec

remote bobcat
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thats the reality of it

fair thistle
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thats what i meant

south kayak
fair thistle
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expressed myself poorly

south kayak
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Or more

remote bobcat
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hell no

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keep our main cleave at 5 and make roar a better button, make OF m+ viable again, etc

undone flower
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Thunderblast available during all avatar duration and I don’t think it will help fury that much lol

south kayak
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And that changes raid aoe

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Back to s1 burst lol

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All over again

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Just no

remote bobcat
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OF doesnt need to be bursty

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You can put a lot more into the bleed effect

dense elbow
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Doesnt need to, but it is more fun

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If you want to just have a bleed effect, just increase roar dam. Not OF

remote bobcat
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no it shouldnt be synergistic

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or sry

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it should be*

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because there needs to be a tradeoff

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to take the damn aoe talents

south kayak
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How do you fix that aside from making the dot longer and better

undone flower
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Yes if you emphasize on the Roar+ OF bleeds interaction, maybe you can cook something

dense elbow
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Then we getting into TT territory again

remote bobcat
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obviously it doesnt feel very good to just have bleeds do the work for us while our rotational skill barely affects it

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but like

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better than nothing

potent granite
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OF+thunderblast interaction would be nice

undone flower
dense elbow
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At that point remove OF

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Just make it a passive called: Bloodbuff, that buffs Roar

remote bobcat
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Reckless Abandon gives bloodthirst a bleed, which is also applied through unhinged, right? Make thunderblast spread this bleed to more targets

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🔥

potent granite
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lmao just call it rend

remote bobcat
dense elbow
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Soon you guys going to be asking for Bladestorm to spread a bleed too

undone flower
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Im not huge fan of OF itself personnally to begin with, il huge fan of OF enrages you and give you ww stacks (on what it feels to play)

south kayak
remote bobcat
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at one time

south kayak
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Ik

dense elbow
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Then you will hate life when it doesnt cleave on the right target or there is forced downtime

south kayak
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All the dots

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Not just the 5

dense elbow
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Please, just let OF be a button that is: Press and do dam

undone flower
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Yeah no more uptime thing pls guys

south kayak
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I’ve been playing devastation

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The aggro is insane lmao

remote bobcat
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I like OF too but yall already know blizz dislikes it so why even think about it

dense elbow
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Yep, I know blizz dont care

south kayak
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I have pulled aggro almost oon every pull

dense elbow
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doesnt mean I dont want what I want

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blizz want flat and boring

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and thatis what we got

forest owl
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only good thing about fury is you dont have to worry about dying to aggro unlike some previous seasons clueless

undone flower
remote bobcat
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lets delve into even worse discussion territory

dense elbow
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I hate tiersets being the reason OF is strong

remote bobcat
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100 men vs 1 gorilla

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silverback

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who wins

undone flower
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The dudes

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Even without rocks

dense elbow
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The men will run for their lives and gorilla will have a field day tearing ppl into shreds

undone flower
dense elbow
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Nah, I am being realistic

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ppl will run the sec a man gets his arm torn off

eternal sundial
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Only goal to kill Gorilla

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No fear

warm crag
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100 ppl can kill a gorilla get real

eternal sundial
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Idk give them cocaine or so

forest owl
undone flower
dense elbow
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Nah, Gorilla got PETA protection, and the men get nuked from orbit

woven valley
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They just keep not fixing things

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Over and over

undone flower
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And don’t make us think the gorilla will not flee with 100 dudes in front of him

dense elbow
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That is not fair, 100 men would flee from that... thing

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that is terror incarnate

undone flower
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But I saw someone bring up the chimpanze question

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Bc they are more terrifying than gorillas

dense elbow
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A 100 gorillas vs 1 chimpanze? I am team Gorilla

woven valley
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We are all gorillas here

forest owl
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real footage of a typical warrior in bladestorm 👀

dense elbow
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Ye, does as much damage as a bladestorm too

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Checks out

undone flower
dense elbow
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1 Gorilla would win, 10 chimps, lord have mercy - for the chimps have none

remote bobcat
dense elbow
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We talking un-natural self-sacrefising levels of willingness. Or just "we did three cheers hurrah, hurrah!" before the faces started getting torn off and screams echoed out?

remote bobcat
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soldiers

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the integrity of soldiers

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but built like average men

dense elbow
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Hm, motivated vet soldiers I can see having a chance

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I presume the chimps are as well motivated

remote bobcat
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they be running off of self defensive instincts no?

dense elbow
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I dunno, not a chimp expert. I would hope so

remote bobcat
dense elbow
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you are a human

remote bobcat
dense elbow
undone flower
flat river
remote bobcat
flat river
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👍

remote bobcat
flat river
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the other warrior in the guild took a screenshot of me talking about the guild and sent it in raid chat so im in trouble but it's fine

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snitch

dense elbow
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hah

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The rat

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If he called you out, you should call him out in here

forest owl
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sounds like spankings for you 🤣

dense elbow
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Imagine breaking the warrior bro code

flat river
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ikr

dense elbow
flat river
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im a bro so i never break it

remote bobcat
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who is tatertotss

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we need to slap him

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rn

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snitches get stitches

flat river
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bro looked up my guild 💀

remote bobcat
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I had ur stix prog up from when i asked ur prog

flat river
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ah

dense elbow
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🗡️ time to stab

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How bad is Tater tho, if he feels he needs to protect his position by snitching?

flat river
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i beat him in dps and logs

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he purple logs i orange log

dense elbow
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d'awww, poor Tater got his ego bruised

remote bobcat
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i wish my guild had another warr so i had someone to compete with between pulls, I can only compete with myself from pull to pull atm

flat river
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i am technically competing with myself

dense elbow
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Having a warrbro that is willing to banter makes raids fun gladge

undone flower
flat river
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i sent him dark humor memes too

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we were bros but he betrayed me

remote bobcat
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not stuck on OAB where i have to compete with aug

undone flower
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I know, I’m on bandit

remote bobcat
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warr is fucking trash on that boss

flat river
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xd

remote bobcat
flat river
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bandit is fun

remote bobcat
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not myth bandit

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no

flat river
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oh

undone flower
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That’s why we have 2 fury warriors on bandit

remote bobcat
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hc bandit is cool, i like it

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myth bandit? as warrior?

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hell nah

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miss me with that

flat river
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i am very good at evading coins

remote bobcat
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The amount of "ahh melee come on you need to bait better" comments

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💀

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melee add didnt get shield broken?

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melee brain

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wipe it

undone flower
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(Yes I had to switch prot -> fury bc we had to recruit a monk and he is tank, but look, -700k dps on the tank against monk buff huh)

flat river
warm crag
remote bobcat
warm crag
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That is what ur there for ya

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Unless u have no Box padders then u thunderclap the boxes

remote bobcat
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5 fps in p3

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and i still clapped a lil

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we take those

undone flower
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I did 2 nights on bandit, I only saw the first boxes sadge

remote bobcat
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wait

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you only saw first boxes ?

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in 2 raidnights?

undone flower
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I know.

remote bobcat
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are yall missing melee add dmg or ranged add dmg?

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orr both ?

undone flower
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Don’t ask me, we did the first night waiting the boss throwing chips to remove melee add debuff

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And not the hunter throwing the first chip on it

flat river
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kronzo wanna know who our top dps is

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its our boomy

undone flower
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Duh

remote bobcat
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hunter doesnt need to throw chip on first melee add

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hope that helps

flat river
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boomy like lowest in tier though

remote bobcat
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theres only 1 melee add out of the whole set of adds that needs a hunter's chip

remote bobcat
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boomy hidden broken

flat river
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he carries

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99 parse on rik

undone flower
remote bobcat
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?

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Wdym

undone flower
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I mean the add was at 25%hp, and we were waiting the chip from the boss (second chips) to remove the debuff

remote bobcat
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melee cleaves 1st add down to like 30% or whatever hp, then boss does coins, you bait the coin onto the add to break shield, you finish the add, any melee picks melee coin up and deposits it

undone flower
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Idk if it’s normal

oblique trail
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Not just letting the hunter send the coins into the adds instead of always needing the boss position, and the baits, to be on the adds, sounds very silly to me

undone flower
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It sound silly to me too

remote bobcat
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im just saying you dont need to have hunter coins

undone flower
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Bc we could be done with the melee add before the boss sends the second chips

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(So we changed on second night and Hunter sends on melee add first : we saw third set)

remote bobcat
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idk probably easiest to watch POV of a good hunter player

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like banshers maybe

undone flower
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That’s exactly why half the raid were questioning the Strat

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Bc rl send bansher pov and 3 more : they all sends the first chip on melee add

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And gaslight us they don’t

remote bobcat
undone flower
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Since I have schizophrenia, I was concerned like AM I THE PROBLEM???? Do I see the same stuff than others????

remote bobcat
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you clearly are

undone flower
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Our comp

remote bobcat
undone flower
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Don’t be jealous, I’m the only dude with surv and feral in my prog

remote bobcat
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feral survival double fury and ret

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oh god

undone flower
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We recleared stix and sprocket, both surv and feral did 100 pre-24h at first bc no one plays that

remote bobcat
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😭

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what?

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theres a second fury right there

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thats a whole ass dude right there man

undone flower
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Oh my English is bad, I meant I’m the only guy with 1surv and 1 feral at the same time in their raid

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Im the second fury sadge

remote bobcat
undone flower
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I wish I was not

remote bobcat
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we have double havoc as well

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I really wish one of them swapped

undone flower
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I wish so many things

undone flower
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It’s my parses?

smoky vale
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its okay

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you have double dev

remote bobcat
undone flower
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I was afraid lol

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(I did the first boss without ww on my bars)

remote bobcat
flat river
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REAL

undone flower
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You know why the 47

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BALLS

flat river
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balls

remote bobcat
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im going back to mugzee in an hour

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lets pray my mugzee gaol assignment weakaura works

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this time

undone flower
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Even on my dk I did balls

remote bobcat
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stix is meme

undone flower
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Im so sick of that boss, I did it as fury the first time this week, I was just throwing my cds on the far crabombs, I just wanted to not wipe on that fucking boss

remote bobcat
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the best part about stix is balance druids dying to hyenas

smoky vale
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or not running in melee when they get aggro of everything

remote bobcat
dense elbow
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I respect that

undone flower
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As tank I died once bc of fire, I came back with balls into the boss, I didn’t pay attention the fire puddles + I have +100% damage taken debuff

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And I died once bc I go out of balls and the add finish his jumps, on where I land

oblique trail
iron portal
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Love it

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On sprocket if he gets gre parse he can make it nice

undone flower
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Yeah on rik, we did the switch so the ppal can go brrr on the adds

forest owl
flat river
undone flower
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W

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My personal favorite

flat river
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the duality of man

modest condor
flat river
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very

polar narwhal
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deadge wasting hours to get into a m+ group because people shun fury

dense elbow
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Cant blame em. Also, do your own key to avoid the issue

fair swallow
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spend 30 minutes atleast trying to get into 13s

polar narwhal
dense elbow
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Invite other Fury Warriors

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problem solved

celest sierra
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is this opener correct- Reck-Charge-rampage-ava-thunder- and then so on and so forth etc

iron portal
iron portal
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You gotta ava after reck

celest sierra
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its bee having it work tho

iron portal
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Its 🐝

heavy sparrow
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I recently saw a suggestion on the forums about making odyn's fury the aoe spender to replace rampage, what if you had meat cleaver with rampage for prio damage, and odyn's fury spender for full aoe? Or maybe just square root meat cleaver would be better? With much stronger thunder blast

dense elbow
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Stop

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No

iron portal
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Go on

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Just to make Kitty nervous

dense elbow
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Please no, I am already going crazy by ppl wanting TT back

heavy sparrow
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Not replace rampage, just replace in a sense that you use it over rampage

dense elbow
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Yes. I understand. You replace ramp on AoE

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I get it

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No.

heavy sparrow
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WHy not?

dense elbow
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OF should be: Press button, do damage, on a 45 sec CD

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If you want Rampage mod, just ask for a ramp mod

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Call it "Meat on the menu", as a choice node instead of RA

heavy sparrow
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Im a proponent of fan of longswords

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With stronger thunder blast procs

dense elbow
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I deded, wake me up when OF bufferino

sullen dove
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Free from funky for 11 months bedge

heavy sparrow
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Im a fan of fan of longwords

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Also, im a fan of not soft capping at 5 if you're gonna do a soft cap

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8 is just better

dapper goblet
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goober swordish shouldnt be allowed to buy bis gear off a boss he didnt suffer on

dense elbow
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gladge buff warriors

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Love how it shows up in every youtube comment section, even the MDI trailer

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we are legion

undone flower
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Tomrus didn’t ask for a warrior buff

remote bobcat
# dense elbow

3.5m cool you are doing really well in a +10 comment guy

dense elbow
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I am happy and glad for him, he playing and having fun. Not knowing he shit gladge

dense elbow
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to be fair, we kinda just presume Elkethuss plays warrior. He never said so. He could be a Aug evoker.

smoky vale
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i messed the end of rhe stream

dapper goblet
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theres some funny pics in his discord

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cant post them here for obvious reasons

smoky vale
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not joining preds disc

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have you tried out stormbringer r is it still totemic in raid

dapper goblet
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if you have enough haste its close

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with pi its better but you gotta actually get it

warm crag
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swordish dinar

static rock
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Just to scream into the void, but what one thing would you guys say would "save" this spec the most?

smoky vale
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delete it

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play shaman or dk instead

young swan
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less rb synergies

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those two are kind of the same thing

eternal lance
smoky vale
young swan
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hello

warm crag
smoky vale
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hi spongie

smoky vale
sullen dove
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game unplayable if her gets weapon her

smoky vale
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@sullen dove do you need weeklies

sullen dove
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combust

young swan
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prob later tonight yeah

smoky vale
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ik you need more keys swordish

young swan
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should prob get 4

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at least

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just in case i dont loot slots from vault insta

smoky vale
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i just remembered i have raid on mage tdy

sullen dove
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delete that alt

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now.

smoky vale
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might just have to

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i think i might have to never play ranged again

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but playing wl and mage kinda fun

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evoker too

sullen dove
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only evoker

smoky vale
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fire mage feel like playing prot war

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perma gcds

sullen dove
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and 0dps

summer quail
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most fun ranged dps ele sham

flat river
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no

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paladin

remote bobcat
flat river
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real

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i miss legion

fervent yoke
tardy lark
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nothing beats stormbringer

subtle zenith
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Fury Power

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I greet you, great Zug-Zug Champions

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I am in need of your guidance

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This is the loadout that I'm using atm for mythic plus

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Is it still viable or are there any changes that could help me with AoE as an expamle?

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Example*

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Hups that was my hunter's

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CgEAO9DBjZzKcjSu6RJDto0RCCAAAAAAAAA0YYMLjZYsMmZmFmZmxMYYmltZGzMzGmZmZGmZsMMYGDAAAEGYDWWMaMDIzCMWA this one

remote bobcat
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please screenshot instead

subtle zenith
remote bobcat
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yuh thats pretty much what fury runs

subtle zenith
#

Hmm

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I really miss the big AoE potential of S1

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Single target is a lot better now but the big numbers are missing 😢

flat river
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yeah they nerfed our burst

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we have none

subtle zenith
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My highest AoE damage Peak was at 14M

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But it's not often that I get over 10M

wispy thistle
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thats on big packs too, they nerfed aoe burst in combination with poor tier

subtle zenith
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I tried doing other classes and specs but

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Fury is the true zugzug in my heart

jade cipher
#

if you talking M+ and pugs, you can play fury and be 3rd on dps, as long as you do more than everyone on St and know your class well

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but somtimes you are really held back with target cap

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for example WHEN THey big pull in Cinderbrew meadery, your aoe might not hit totems

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whilst arms just cleaves

undone flower
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fury time

jade cipher
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same with some big packs on other places

wispy thistle
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just gotta have a priority list on targets really, Or rely on the other dps to kill the totems

flat river
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just rampage 1 target who casts (optional) and don't switch till it dies

pale zephyr
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What are the odds our target cap will turn out to be one big bug too copium

maiden flame
chilly fractal
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Because it’s awesome

maiden flame
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But shouldnt be better if bloodmallet is to be belived 😛

chilly fractal
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Not sure what bloodmallet says

storm birch
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Was really hoping to hear about balance tuning for tomorrow for fury but the announcement window is closing. Guess mediocrity is our home

chilly fractal
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Balance tuning 9 times out of 10 gets announced on like Friday evenings

storm birch
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Oh is that right ?

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Well fingers crosssed for Friday then 🥲

unreal onyx
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except being below mediocre

fair swallow
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Why does the community as a whole seem to dislike warrior (besides prot)

unreal onyx
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they're jealous

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of how cool we are

storm birch
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Nah you know what’s funny @unreal onyx I was just talking to my friends about starting as whatever bis melee spec is for next tier and just full focusing it . Never experienced being like that meta spec everyone wants. Always played warrior

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But I feel I won’t enjoy the game if I’m not warrior it’s all I know !

fair swallow
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I feel the same lol

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I can play other classes well but nothing scratches that itch like warrior does

olive python
#

playing fury just scratches that itch i always have playing wow man

reef plinth
#

should we use thuner clap on single target ?

fair swallow
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I wish fury was better in m+ but I still somewhat enjoy arms

fair swallow
unreal onyx
fair swallow
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Otherwise use it as a "I have no other buttons to push"

fair swallow
storm birch
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Yea I feel like I’m soulbound to fury. Nothing else in the game feels the same. I think windwalker was the closest for me but I think I’m in love with the charge ability of all things 🤣

fair swallow
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Even then signing up for 13s as arms feels like I'm applying to Harvard with a GPA of 2 lol

storm birch
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Fury isn’t bad in m+ cause of boss dmg and good prio dmg but when it comes to looking at meters it just feels terrible

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If you understand what happens behind the meters it isn’t bad

fair swallow
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I'm 669 and do good damage and barely die but people prefer meta classes even when it's a 13 and you don't need it

storm birch
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Yea I’m 670 and have almost all 14’s but they have mostly been handouts from my vdh friend haha

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I hold my own in them but it’s pretty rare someone shoots me an inv by their own free will

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Once I tuned 14 priory I just used it as leverage for others 🤣

whole yacht
#

Have you thought to make your own group? I find it's hard to get declined an invite. If you're the one doing the inviting

storm birch
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Yea I enjoy making my own group! Especially with resilience keys now its nice

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It’s what climbed me through the 13’s cause they were easy

fair swallow
whole yacht
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Be more picky

dense fulcrum
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making my own group made me clear top 15, yday got flood 14 and top 15 with the same random team i builded from pug (rare stuff but it can happen lol)

whole yacht
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Instead of just glancing at io score. Look them up

fair swallow
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Fair

dense fulcrum
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once u have 13 or 14 resi its easier imo to do higher keys

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if you do ur own ofc

fair swallow
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I have resi 12s

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Been trying to push

storm birch
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Or make a checklist not sure enough people do this

unreal onyx
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I literally only pugged up to 3.1k io to be able to get into weekly 10s

storm birch
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2 Brez. Lust. Understand the comp you’re forming

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That’s what I do

unreal onyx
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down the line

sullen dove
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just buy brezzes

storm birch
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If I really want a safety key I get Druid and pally for extra damage reduction haha

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Yea I always forget jumper cables but no one ever uses them in the keys I run (including me so maybe that’s why)

fair swallow
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If I can help it I want a druid, monk, and either a shaman or hunter

storm birch
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I also will just force the dream comp but with me as the dollar store unholy dk

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So vdh me mage boomie disc

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Or I’ll run physical with vdh/prot pal mm hunter me enhance and priest or another sham

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I like mm hunters a lot idk why

fair swallow
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You can do a 13 with any comp as long as you have a lust

storm birch
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Yea for sure

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I would argue that for 14’s as well tbh

whole yacht
fair swallow
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It's literally just mechanics and doing your part in damage/heals

storm birch
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But 15’s I’m not sure I haven’t had the time to start messing with them

storm birch
fair swallow
storm birch
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I refuse arms I tried it too slow

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😅

whole yacht
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Granted I had a lot of good procs

fair swallow
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Just shows the AOE disparity between classes deadge

whole yacht
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1st boss in flood gate actually was hilarious. I pressed 2 buttons. And shot straight to 14m dps. Had to RUN cuz I ripped aggro on all the mobs and boss

fair swallow
whole yacht
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That was at 635

fair swallow
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I play arms because you have better AOE than fury and still do good boss damage

whole yacht
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I wish fury was better in keys

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It's so fun but seeing boomy and dk or mage at 20m+ while I'm fighting for my life at 10m

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It's depressing

fair swallow
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Fury has mid AOE but still near the top on bosses

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Fury is better for priority targets

whole yacht
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Yeah I agree. But still. I like big number

fair swallow
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Yeah big number is nice, but you also gotta remember how many bosses where that better AOE is just padding

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I.e rotgut from TOP

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Or first boss of dfc

storm birch
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Nah the true pumper boss is azerokk motherlode

fair swallow
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Fury's main strength is making the bosses go quicker

storm birch
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Im slammin there

fair swallow
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I've noticed at least that the higher you go it's less about the adds and more about the bosses

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At least the pugs I've been in we'll blow up trash and then the boss takes like five minutes

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(actual time might be an exaggeration)

dense elbow
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You are not wrong, you will spend more time on bosses and trash. It is only that trash is a lot easier to efficently blow up than a boss. It is why we can cope and say "Prio dam matters copium "

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and then boss dam looks like this, and you wonder: "Do I bring anything?"

radiant sentinel
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battle shout is nice in that comp 😄

unreal onyx
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no rogue

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full melee comp bis

dense elbow
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peepoBlush true, also monk buff - but hunter bring nothing but a 1% ish buff from Mark. Hunter was clearly carried that boss fight, their low ST value for sure makes up the twice the AoE dam

unreal onyx
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mw, bdk, fury, rogue and ret

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full bis melee comp

dense elbow
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I do enjoy MM tho, it do good dam, and got burst. So is fun gladge

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As it is fun, it will get removed out of the game soon. So ya lads should play it while it exists

summer quail
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skyfury too good

unreal onyx
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oh truuu

summer quail
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instead of ret. bdk has cr

unreal onyx
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replace ret

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delete ret even

quiet breach
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I'm starting to think using WW/TC is better than slam even in ST alot of the time because I often get 0 rage when slamming and the only time slam is useful is when you don't have enough rage to cast rampage but can't cast BT or RB

remote bobcat
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your filler of choice should be tclap or whirlwind in 99% of cases

quiet breach
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yes I realize now that F is too good a keybind for a dogshit filler spell but

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its too late now

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don't wanna relearn it

remote bobcat
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my whirlwind/slam is on my 2 button

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I only ever slam over whirlwind on sprocketmonger

quiet breach
remote bobcat
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or cauldron

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but i play arms more atm

quiet breach
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but I'm also gonna put it on F

fickle cedar
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yeah use the ww/tclap/slam macro

quiet breach
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or actually il use that macro

bronze umbra
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Haven't played since the current patches. With the change to avatar are we still pressing reckless and ava together? Or do we space em out

remote bobcat
rocky locust
quiet breach
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but at beginning always together

bronze umbra
bronze umbra
quiet breach
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so usually its pretty good

remote bobcat
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wowhead guide is outdated

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sometimes

plush ravine
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So, I am pretty new to Fury and a bit surprised at how much the spec sucks in M+ and is just meh in raid. From searching around, it looks like there is a long history of Fury getting shafted in the performance department. Any hope for us?

bronze umbra
remote bobcat
quiet breach
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u also have to use ur own brain

remote bobcat
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fury is a very solid raid spec

quiet breach
remote bobcat
remote bobcat
quiet breach
remote bobcat
#

rogue

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dh

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dk

plush ravine
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I managed to get all 14s timed in M+ as Fury and 1 15 timed. I think I am at the point though where I can't go any higher without buffs. No group wants Fury.

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Maybe TOP sometimes

quiet breach
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what about them makes them more survivable? spell reflection every 20 seconds is insanely broken

summer quail
quiet breach
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not to mention their passive tankiness being really high

summer quail
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thats cap

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af

remote bobcat
summer quail
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lmao very valuable statistic

remote bobcat
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its just something that aids the argument, its not the entire argument itself

plush ravine
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Just sucks that Blizz can't spend a couple minutes buffing Fury so we can play with the other kids in M+.

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I don't need to be meta-but just not hot garbage.

remote bobcat
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Rogue has feint, cloak, evasion (and atrophic poison for everyone), DH has dummy passive leech, a lot more passive healing than warrior with BT, short cd defensive and darkness, DK just doesn't die idk what to tell u Iskus

ashen socket
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This is an echo chamber

plush ravine
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I never saw anything good on the forums

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Just this place but worse

ashen socket
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Yeah but its in a spot where blizz looks

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blizz isn't gonna look in this cesspool

sullen dove
plush ravine
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OK BROTHERS, COME WITH ME. LET'S ORGANZIE AND POST ON THE FORUMS TOGETHER! HURRAH!

sullen dove
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which no dk on the planet will do

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rather die than waste rp on that shit

thorny zenith
# remote bobcat

I wonder how many of those hunter deaths were just hunters being dumbasses

ashen socket
sullen dove
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its ok tho since ams most broken defensive in the game

remote bobcat
sullen dove
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impending is a 20sec cd global that doesnt take shit

plush ravine
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Does Blizz read the class guides? Instead of the guide authors making it sound like Fury is viable in M+ they could flat out say we suck. That might get attention?

sullen dove
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they can spam death strike all they want 😭

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yet never will

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pls make impending have no cd

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w change

thorny zenith
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Getting bricked up just thinking about no cd imp

ashen socket
#

How about

sullen dove
ashen socket
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make fury burst feel like burst again :)))))

remote bobcat
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bla bla OF burst

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blabla press button deal dmg

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bla bla

ashen socket
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oh idc about of burst

dense elbow
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cracks knuckles OF ya say

remote bobcat
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gET LOST

ashen socket
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But like

remote bobcat
#

kitty

ashen socket
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I can out dps my fury as prot

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its

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dumb

plush ravine
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Line 1 of the guides on Wowhead and Icy Veins should make it clear that Fury is ass at M+.

remote bobcat
ashen socket
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Well yeah

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but when most of these dungeons are

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high aoe m+ pulls

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kinda normal for me to beat fury in alot of pulls

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or tie

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its

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cringe

remote bobcat
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idk people doom on fury a lot

quiet breach
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is there any specific spec (not class) that is meta in m+ every season?

remote bobcat
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I think fury not having hella aoe is fine

near wing
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Shaman and DK seem safe

plush ravine
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Like I said, I doint need to have the best AOE, but some would be nice.

ashen socket
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Nah

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When I press 1 button

remote bobcat
ashen socket
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I wanna be a nuke

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that falls off

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Peaking 30mil

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is so

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hot

sullen dove
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unholy also frequent

ashen socket
sullen dove
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last few szns at least

remote bobcat
sullen dove
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yea i mean he says specs who cares about the other 2

remote bobcat
ashen socket
plush ravine
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When is the last time Fury was good in M+?

smoky vale
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n/a

real flower
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vanilla

near wing
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But at least it’s hella fun

remote bobcat
ashen socket
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Fury has always been good its just never been the best

plush ravine
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It's our turn!

ashen socket
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And its just worse this season because it is a large target count dungeon pool while fury does good dps it does not have really good burst or util

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it just falls behind in comparison

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great st

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but

plush maple
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Blizzard has been griefing Fury by not having consistent target caps across specs/classes

remote bobcat
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yea but arms exist and fury plays should try to be flexible

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arms is rly fun this season

ashen socket
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why bring a fury warrior that can do 2mil in st and 5 mil in aoe when dk can do 2mil in st and 10 mil in aoe

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Now someone might jump on me for saying this but

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Just fucking uncap every class in the game

plush maple
ashen socket
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open the door for everyone else

dense elbow
ashen socket
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It will not hurt anything

remote bobcat
polar narwhal
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Just need to uncap Meat Cleaver, or add more targets. 4 is crap.

ashen socket
#

not a huge difference

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when the dk is doubling in aoe lol

dense elbow
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Nah, it is fine

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everything is fine

plush ravine
#

Only way I can get into 15 keys as Fury is to whisper the leader that I am a voodoo priest in RL and will give him bad luck for several months if no invite.

remote bobcat
ashen socket
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just makes me sad to see that state its in

near wing
#

Fury was pretty trash last season too, I think we’re in a better spot relative to that

plush ravine
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Do we have a dedicated dev we can communicate with?

remote bobcat
plush maple
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I have only played Arms twice, Once during Season 4 PvPing with full corrupted gear and max ilvl bleed 2H I forgot name off and second time was at beginning of Castle Nathria because guild forced me because of how bad Fury was but they shortly afterwards buffed Fury and I was able to shine

remote bobcat
plush ravine
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If we there is a DPS Warrior dev on the Blizzard team they should really do a wellness check and make sure he/she is still with us.

remote bobcat
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are you optimizing MFE stacks at least

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and VC

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so you can get away with only playing fury

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?

plush maple
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Dunno what that mumbo jomblo means because I haven't played retail for a while XD

remote bobcat
#

ah we're done conversing here then

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o7

earnest canyon
#

Sac majique

undone flower
#

Night on bandit finished ahh

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3rd raid / we saw the last set of adds

flat river
#

i told him not to

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but he still did

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and the guy he scammed went into his guild and ratted him out infront of everyone with screenshots

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and they kicked him out of the guild

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💀

sly crane
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based guild

dense elbow
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All fun and games till someone fakes the screenshots

plush ravine
#

To the extent there are any M+ where Fury does well at higher keys, is there anything other than TOP?

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Pull counts are so high for most of these keys except for TOP.

dense elbow
#

Are even performing that especially well in ToP?

plush ravine
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Well, no. Just not as poorly as the others?

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I timed a 15 DFC as Fury. I think if I want to hit 2200, I just need to stick with TOP. Anything else I feel like a carry.

dense elbow
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Just turn off trash that doesnt do anything but pad meters on details, and ya wont look half as bad

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Labourers spawned by the 1st boss in DFC, is a good example

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Remove em, and you suddenly aint that far behind, if not ahead

plush zephyr
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I just minimize details until the dungeons over. Tbh I haven’t been looking sometimes.

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Just accepted whatever it is at this point.

plush ravine
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Got it

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I will rise above my shame.

plush zephyr
#

I thought my Fury was good on ToP but on arms I just gapped it.

dense elbow
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Fury aint the worst thing ever, it can do its job 'fine'. Just do your best to keep the mental from going to "am I being boosted?"

plush ravine
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I know. I had to go Arms to get most of my 14s timed. Couldn't get in a group otherwise, but I really don't like Arms.

full valve
plush ravine
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I didn't say that it was easy to get into groups as Arms. But, here and there I would get in. To get into a 15 key as Fury I have to send inappropriate photos.

full valve
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ayyoooo is that the forbidden technique

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i might start including that in the notes

plush ravine
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Well, once they see what they are dealing with, I immediately get kicked.

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So, no.

plush ravine
#

Above in this channel someone said that people had been putting "500K gold upon timing" and then just bouncing. There is always that above board play.

full valve
#

i will start listing a phd

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or my iq

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who knows

alpine palm
#

I'm looking over some Stixx logs and noticed that the top log casts differ a lot from the rotation suggested by sims. It looks like their prio is Rampage -> Bloodthirst -> Raging Blow but sims suggest Rampage -> Raging Blow -> Bloodthirst. This is for Thane btw

flat river
#

do you guys think the warrior dev went to make a sandwich

marble pilot
#

Warrior dev knows we cant read so they dont have to worry about changing things

full valve
#

warrior dev is the peon from warcraft 3

flat river
#

i wonder why class devs don't work with their class discords

full valve
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he would get publicly executed

flat river
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💀

full valve
#

imagine all the "@" he would get saying stuff like "FIX FURY"

flat river
#

atleast work secretly with archi or something

full valve
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yeah def should be a kinda connection between player/dev cuz theyre clearly clueless atm

flat river
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he prolly stopped playing warrior and swapped to mage 💀

tepid cedar
#

Fury buffs when

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😂😂

ruby badge
#

but i had to go moonkin for our fight so 🤷‍♂️

heavy sparrow
#

Fury

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Rage

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Anger

#

Mild annoyance

#

This is what happens when you're hard capped at 5

elfin raptor
#

guys, cant find this information. but is "best-in-Slots" on a wrong tooltip?

#

item calls -> "5k" sec stats. but procc AND on use give me just about 1200-1300 stat each?

vague sierra
#

fury keks

elfin raptor
#

hum.. does that mean, on arms its like 5k ? as tooltip calls?

vague sierra
#

oh, no, idk. I haven't used bis all season.

full valve
#

mild inconvenience

fickle cedar
quiet breach
#

can someone copy and paste the slam/ww/tclap macro? the one in pins is only for slam and WW, but not Tclap

elfin raptor
#

oh.. big ty @fickle cedar this should be the solution.. and also its on fury reduced, cuz of dw, i guess

dense elbow
#

Worst part is, the one I gave it to the last time... Was you keks

quiet breach
#

ty

quiet breach
#

i was there tho

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but at the time i wasnt using the macro or was even aware it was useful

#

didnt remember

dense elbow
quiet breach
#

isnt it supposed to?

dense elbow
#

Nop, it just replaces the ability. Why would you ever cast WW and not TC?

quiet breach
#

so u cant cast rampage

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i wander if theres a way i can alter it to make it prioritize TC but use WW if not

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ima try adding cast Whirlwind

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didnt work

dense elbow
#

Nop, best you can do is a mod keybind. Still, in your 1 in a 1000 scenario, just use wrecking throw, shockwave or stormbolt

quiet breach
#

unbound it on fury at least

dense elbow
#

Might not want to bind ping and an attack button

quiet breach
#

also one time i accidently charged boss with my reck/ava macro

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before countdown was up

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cuz i wanted to pop CDs early for rik

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xdd

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didnt die tho

#

somehow

dense elbow
#

These things happen, melee moment yep

full valve
#

we out here discussing if this is a dog what u guys think

modest condor
#

yeah that's a dog

dense elbow
#

Based on the hooves and horns, I would say that ain't a dog

modest condor
#

if it has 4 legs it's a dog

full valve
#

socrates and platon

plush zephyr
#

Never forget #OnAllFours

#

Second favorite rwf moment

modest condor
#

secret tech

plush zephyr
#

First favorite moment

fervent yoke
#

what do I set sims for gally/rik patchwork 5 bosses?

chilly fractal
#

don't

full valve
whole yacht
vague sierra
#

Tfw you never get chosen for xav pvp okayge

chilly fractal
#

Bro I’m always chosen

#

I think in my past several runs I’ve gone down every time

candid falcon
#

do y'all save CDs for Xav PvP

#

I'm ngl I try as hard as possible not to lose

silk wharf
#

Every second you waste in the pvp portion is slowing the key down

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while I would never use cds in there; healing, cc etc would be actively griefing the key.

chilly fractal
#

However… if someone calls you a bitch or something… you throw everything at them… CDs maybe a Storm Bolt…

solemn widget
#

where can I find the tech to get out of add circles on mythic mugzee? we leap insta? or how do we do it

sudden tusk
#

void elf racial

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technically you can leap it with perfect timing