#fury
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I just stand at my computer while saluting 🫡 during pulls like the first of Cinderbrew
It absolutely does. Have seen mm hunters bursting for 7 mil
Within seconds of a pull
At like 639 ilvl
Insanity
yea in one pull
but they arent beating you overall
that does not happen
what are you smoking
In low keys, a MM gets proc, that pack is gone. Meaning MM gets a huge DPS lead. Now MM doesnt even need a proc, just Volley and Explosive shot.
I can see in lowkeys packs just being deleted, leaving nothing for the warrior to hit to gain DPS on
remember when it was the other way around
warrior being the one that deleted the pack before the rest can do anything
it was glorious
Sure, they beat us on overall DPS as we went higher and lock/mage got time to pop off. But darned did it feel good to just blast and have that moment of glory.
Bring back beta burst tuning
We had a niche
OF is bad yeppers
Just buff it a 125%, and it all guchi
Yeah….they absolutely can if played well
Mm in particular is only beating arms 20ilvls lower with tier procs tho
a 640 mm hunter with good lock n load rng could absolutely blast a 660 arms warrior in a key…but I highly doubt it would happen often
Also kind of useless dps
OF needs to get its DF s3 tier as a talent and it needs like 400 percent buffs
Mostly joking but man I miss s3 tier
if they are equal in skill then arms 660 beats mm 640 every day of the week tf brother
If mm gets multiple lnl procs on large packs the hunter could absolutely demolish a warrior
100% in overall, 100% proc dependent
what are you smoking
It’s why mm is so infuriating to play because you can do 5m overall one dungeon and 3m overall the next because of terrible proc timing
gimme some of that
That’s true, but rng is a vaccum. It’s not how many you get over the dungeon it’s when you get them
You're basically saying if they get perfect procs at the perfect time they can beat a warrior overall
And even then I doubt it
Yes that’s exactly what I’m saying, lol
Arms 660 played well definitely beats MM at 640 with lucky procs
It’s almost like this is a fury channel, jokes aside. I really hate how arms plays on aoe. Too many buttons that do similar or the same thing, they could easily make cleave replace whirlwind and the spec would be leagues better at least play feel wise
I know a fix to fury/arms warrior, bring back Siegebreaker instead of Onslaught or OF 
I miss playing arms :c mained it for almost a decade
no siegebreaker, plz
Cleave already replaces whirlwind
cleave replaces whirlwind
the average crowd here is not a very big fan of siegebreaker
arms aoe is rotation is cleave + ms + op, three buttons that do different things. You get to press demolish (a button unlike any other), ravager (a button unlike any other), sweeping strikes (why the fuck does this have half of a GCD?) and Roar
oh and warbreaker of course
some are a cone, some are a circular hitbox, some are a cast, some are instant cast, cleave is aoe version of MS, overpower is generator
your statement doesn't really make a whole lot of sense to me
imma be real
that ability deserved to die
fucking cs but put it on fury for no reason
if this was bait it was top tier
Wouldn’t it be better if it was off GCD as it probably would be if it was added today?
they should just not add buttons that are there in arms to fury
Fair enough
There should not be off gcds
You want every ability to be in GCD?
off gcd spenders can be fun in arms i kind of liked what IP added to the spec
Blocked and muted
I want every damage ability to be on gcd
For fury
I don’t want cds to be on gcd
Damage off gcd you’ll just macro it to something
In this case probably just rampage
I remember clicking siegebreaker on jaina and all it did was cause me to deal bonus dmg, just like CS
Brain did the connecting when Spongie said arms abilities shouldn’t be put in fury and got the idea to look up other siegebreaker
idk what bfa fury siegebreaker is im p sure it was just a 30 second button that increased enemy damage taken
Yes sir
Don’t listen to spongie he is poop at the game
Yeah so it’s exactly colossus smash
I kind of wish they would make thane shoot lighting during bladestorm/ravager and it chain to enemies to do more aoe
In a different coat
Would be really cool visually to just see it zapping all over
With whirlwind stack it would apply to every target you cleaved
whats warbreaker
I think it’s good if it’s used sparingly
Like how rogues can pull other specs cds with sepsis
Fury should be fury and arms should be arms
In shadowlands
it is not being used sparingly and every use of it has been catastrophic
And fury is superior to arms
stop there
to the point where one specs nerfs and buffs have affected other specs cause its literally just the same spell
they should have different strengths
AMEN TO THAT
idk why fury ever got avatar
There are spec specific auras
avatar isnt even a cool button to press
"I press avatar so i can gain....RECKLESSNESS"
Avatar most boring damage cd in the game
real
its fine signet just ruined it
yeah its deathwish with a worse name
mutliple cds at least do something, like reck at least increases your rage gen
avatar is just plain 20% damage on a 1,5m cd
come on
I still thanks blizzard for the demolish buff to arms, it helped me a lot in prot 
Yeah
yeah nvm lol
well it does give thane 2 stacks of thunderblast
i thought it just increased melee attack cp generation
and Adrenaline Rush makes your gcds shorter and gievs you a shitton of energy gen
and removes our roots xD
And it’s flavorful
Dragonrage makes you use a lot more Disintegrates/Pyres
There needs to be something else that happens when you use avatar
or remove it idk
it does for thane
ig
you know what would be nice
avatar casting odyns
if using avatar sent down a bunch of lightning strikes everywhere
when you used avatar as Thane
how is this not in the game already
it's just so flavorful
you press avatar, and bam, a bunch of ligthing strikes
simple enough and makes it a better cd
probably because it ends up being even more bursty than it was in s1 of tww?
i think thats why its not in the game at least
**
they already removed OF cast on avatar
Thane isn’t that bursty at all
Honestly warrior need a rework
There’s no way we’re supposed to be doing damage to 5 targets only
When everyone else is doing 8+ soft capped
That needs to go
Warrior has needed a rework since DF launched. We haven’t gotten a mechanical overhaul in….well so long I can’t even remember
They keep adding more stuff on top of our older build
Instead of fixing core issues
Yeah that’s true
We have too many cds
We need less
Our aoe is capped to 5 targets
Our cds aren’t that impactful
And none does damage
the same discussion
There’s nothing exciting anymore
same opinions
we're playing the same spec since legion with only minor spec differences from season to season yet people always want to go back to this or that season of warrior gameplay
Yeah and we’re gonna be in one they change the spec
So true
im very happy with where fury is
I don’t care about being overpowered if my spec feels old and bad
MM Hunter rotation didn’t change since SL, now it is fun because they have a random explosive shot proc
just needs a slight buff in AoE and it's a rreally good spec
we need an m+ buff without affecting raid aoe
thats the reality of it
thats what i meant
And it’s gonna go back to unfun when you lose the tier

expressed myself poorly
MC to 8 targets as a band aid
Or more
hell no
keep our main cleave at 5 and make roar a better button, make OF m+ viable again, etc
Thunderblast available during all avatar duration and I don’t think it will help fury that much lol
Doesnt need to, but it is more fun
If you want to just have a bleed effect, just increase roar dam. Not OF
no it shouldnt be synergistic
or sry
it should be*
because there needs to be a tradeoff
to take the damn aoe talents
How do you fix that aside from making the dot longer and better
Yes if you emphasize on the Roar+ OF bleeds interaction, maybe you can cook something
Then we getting into TT territory again
obviously it doesnt feel very good to just have bleeds do the work for us while our rotational skill barely affects it
but like
better than nothing
OF+thunderblast interaction would be nice
Make the dots on longer duration, less bursty
Reckless Abandon gives bloodthirst a bleed, which is also applied through unhinged, right? Make thunderblast spread this bleed to more targets
🔥
lmao just call it rend
Soon you guys going to be asking for Bladestorm to spread a bleed too
Im not huge fan of OF itself personnally to begin with, il huge fan of OF enrages you and give you ww stacks (on what it feels to play)
What if you extend OF bleed by using BT
you can only BT 5 targets
at one time
Ik
Then you will hate life when it doesnt cleave on the right target or there is forced downtime
Please, just let OF be a button that is: Press and do dam
Yeah no more uptime thing pls guys
I like OF too but yall already know blizz dislikes it so why even think about it
Yep, I know blizz dont care
I have pulled aggro almost oon every pull
doesnt mean I dont want what I want
blizz want flat and boring
and thatis what we got
only good thing about fury is you dont have to worry about dying to aggro unlike some previous seasons 
Don’t worry they are cooking on our next tier set 100%
lets delve into even worse discussion territory
I hate tiersets being the reason OF is strong
The men will run for their lives and gorilla will have a field day tearing ppl into shreds
You are changing the question
Assume 100 Zombies
Only goal to kill Gorilla
No fear
100 ppl can kill a gorilla get real
Idk give them cocaine or so
new fury talent, rampage rips the arms off enemies and they flail around on the floor bleeding out.
Well 100 dudes can go out of their trench and do a 100 m sprint toward artillery shelling and machine guns bc someone whistled
Nah, Gorilla got PETA protection, and the men get nuked from orbit
We will be In a loop till they do something cause we all know what the issues are
They just keep not fixing things
Over and over
But I saw someone bring up the chimpanze question
Bc they are more terrifying than gorillas
A 100 gorillas vs 1 chimpanze? I am team Gorilla
real footage of a typical warrior in bladestorm 👀
Nah a dude asked 10 chimps against 100 humans
1 Gorilla would win, 10 chimps, lord have mercy - for the chimps have none
if the 100 humans are average built men with willingness to get hurt in order to defeat the chimps? humans win
We talking un-natural self-sacrefising levels of willingness. Or just "we did three cheers hurrah, hurrah!" before the faces started getting torn off and screams echoed out?
Hm, motivated vet soldiers I can see having a chance
I presume the chimps are as well motivated
they be running off of self defensive instincts no?
I dunno, not a chimp expert. I would hope so
you are a chimp
you are a human

back to monke
hows your stix prog
👍
the other warrior in the guild took a screenshot of me talking about the guild and sent it in raid chat so im in trouble but it's fine
snitch
sounds like spankings for you 🤣
Imagine breaking the warrior bro code
ikr

im a bro so i never break it
bro looked up my guild 💀
I had ur stix prog up from when i asked ur prog
ah
🗡️ time to stab
How bad is Tater tho, if he feels he needs to protect his position by snitching?

d'awww, poor Tater got his ego bruised
i wish my guild had another warr so i had someone to compete with between pulls, I can only compete with myself from pull to pull atm
Having a warrbro that is willing to banter makes raids fun 
If you have an Aug in your guild , you can compete with him
im on mugzee so i actually deal dmg
not stuck on OAB where i have to compete with aug
I know, I’m on bandit
my condolences
warr is fucking trash on that boss
xd
bandit is fun
oh
That’s why we have 2 fury warriors on bandit
hc bandit is cool, i like it
myth bandit? as warrior?
hell nah
miss me with that
i am very good at evading coins
getting coin buff is the bare minimum.
The amount of "ahh melee come on you need to bait better" comments
💀
melee add didnt get shield broken?
melee brain
wipe it
(Yes I had to switch prot -> fury bc we had to recruit a monk and he is tank, but look, -700k dps on the tank against monk buff huh)
i always have buff up
Sort by bossdam p2 noob
real
That is what ur there for ya
Unless u have no Box padders then u thunderclap the boxes
I did 2 nights on bandit, I only saw the first boxes 
thats like 10% of prog done
wait
you only saw first boxes ?
in 2 raidnights?

I know.
Don’t ask me, we did the first night waiting the boss throwing chips to remove melee add debuff
And not the hunter throwing the first chip on it
Duh
boomy like lowest in tier though
theres only 1 melee add out of the whole set of adds that needs a hunter's chip
But we were looking at the melee add 25% hp the time the boss throw the second wave like this 
I mean the add was at 25%hp, and we were waiting the chip from the boss (second chips) to remove the debuff
melee cleaves 1st add down to like 30% or whatever hp, then boss does coins, you bait the coin onto the add to break shield, you finish the add, any melee picks melee coin up and deposits it
Idk if it’s normal
Not just letting the hunter send the coins into the adds instead of always needing the boss position, and the baits, to be on the adds, sounds very silly to me
It sound silly to me too
im just saying you dont need to have hunter coins
Bc we could be done with the melee add before the boss sends the second chips
(So we changed on second night and Hunter sends on melee add first : we saw third set)
izenab
That’s exactly why half the raid were questioning the Strat
Bc rl send bansher pov and 3 more : they all sends the first chip on melee add
And gaslight us they don’t
Since I have schizophrenia, I was concerned like AM I THE PROBLEM???? Do I see the same stuff than others????
Our comp

Don’t be jealous, I’m the only dude with surv and feral in my prog
what?
We recleared stix and sprocket, both surv and feral did 100 pre-24h at first bc no one plays that
no but what does this sentence even mean? you three are the only dudes?
😭
what?
theres a second fury right there
thats a whole ass dude right there man
Oh my English is bad, I meant I’m the only guy with 1surv and 1 feral at the same time in their raid
Im the second fury 
I wish I was not
I wish so many things
It’s my parses?
non
cauldron and rik avoiding you like:
REAL
balls
im going back to mugzee in an hour
lets pray my mugzee gaol assignment weakaura works
this time
Even on my dk I did balls
stix is meme
Im so sick of that boss, I did it as fury the first time this week, I was just throwing my cds on the far crabombs, I just wanted to not wipe on that fucking boss
the best part about stix is balance druids dying to hyenas
or not running in melee when they get aggro of everything
i vividly remember our druid running into fire instead of into melee
I respect that
As tank I died once bc of fire, I came back with balls into the boss, I didn’t pay attention the fire puddles + I have +100% damage taken debuff
And I died once bc I go out of balls and the add finish his jumps, on where I land
this is so me

It starts gloriously and keeps getting worse
Love it
On sprocket if he gets gre parse he can make it nice
Yeah on rik, we did the switch so the ppal can go brrr on the adds
now you need to get a grey on sprocket to keep the color trend 
we posting logs?
the duality of man
you guys proud of me? http://puu.sh/KsBQ5/d8402a2efe.png
very
wasting hours to get into a m+ group because people shun fury
Cant blame em. Also, do your own key to avoid the issue
even when i play arms people shun me lol
spend 30 minutes atleast trying to get into 13s
creates group for own key, people see you are fury and don't sign
what exactly is it supposed to fix
is this opener correct- Reck-Charge-rampage-ava-thunder- and then so on and so forth etc
I never stopped being so
Reck charge wont give you enough rage to rampage
You gotta ava after reck
its bee having it work tho
Its 🐝
I recently saw a suggestion on the forums about making odyn's fury the aoe spender to replace rampage, what if you had meat cleaver with rampage for prio damage, and odyn's fury spender for full aoe? Or maybe just square root meat cleaver would be better? With much stronger thunder blast
Please no, I am already going crazy by ppl wanting TT back
Not replace rampage, just replace in a sense that you use it over rampage
WHy not?
OF should be: Press button, do damage, on a 45 sec CD
If you want Rampage mod, just ask for a ramp mod
Call it "Meat on the menu", as a choice node instead of RA
I deded, wake me up when OF bufferino
Free from funky for 11 months 
Im a fan of fan of longwords
Also, im a fan of not soft capping at 5 if you're gonna do a soft cap
8 is just better
goober swordish shouldnt be allowed to buy bis gear off a boss he didnt suffer on
buff warriors
Love how it shows up in every youtube comment section, even the MDI trailer
we are legion
Tomrus didn’t ask for a warrior buff
3.5m cool you are doing really well in a +10 comment guy
I am happy and glad for him, he playing and having fun. Not knowing he shit 
hi
to be fair, we kinda just presume Elkethuss plays warrior. He never said so. He could be a Aug evoker.
did someone do a funny on gartic phone
i messed the end of rhe stream
not joining preds disc
have you tried out stormbringer r is it still totemic in raid
if you have enough haste its close
with pi its better but you gotta actually get it
swordish dinar
Just to scream into the void, but what one thing would you guys say would "save" this spec the most?
more execute synergies
less rb synergies
those two are kind of the same thing

hi xan
hello
wdym
hi spongie
do you need weeklies
game unplayable if
gets weapon 
@sullen dove do you need weeklies
prob later tonight yeah
ik you need more keys swordish
might just have to
i think i might have to never play ranged again
but playing wl and mage kinda fun
evoker too

only evoker
and 0dps
most fun ranged dps ele sham
spender execute my beloved
Boomkin is fun too if you wanna passively top M+ meters
nothing beats stormbringer
Fury Power
I greet you, great Zug-Zug Champions
I am in need of your guidance
This is the loadout that I'm using atm for mythic plus
Is it still viable or are there any changes that could help me with AoE as an expamle?
Example*
Hups that was my hunter's
CgEAO9DBjZzKcjSu6RJDto0RCCAAAAAAAAA0YYMLjZYsMmZmFmZmxMYYmltZGzMzGmZmZGmZsMMYGDAAAEGYDWWMaMDIzCMWA this one
please screenshot instead
yuh thats pretty much what fury runs
Hmm
I really miss the big AoE potential of S1
Single target is a lot better now but the big numbers are missing 😢
reroll
thats on big packs too, they nerfed aoe burst in combination with poor tier
But I love fury 😢
I tried doing other classes and specs but
Fury is the true zugzug in my heart
if you talking M+ and pugs, you can play fury and be 3rd on dps, as long as you do more than everyone on St and know your class well
but somtimes you are really held back with target cap
for example WHEN THey big pull in Cinderbrew meadery, your aoe might not hit totems
whilst arms just cleaves
fury time
same with some big packs on other places
just gotta have a priority list on targets really, Or rely on the other dps to kill the totems
just rampage 1 target who casts (optional) and don't switch till it dies
Lmao 😆
What are the odds our target cap will turn out to be one big bug too 
Anyone got any idea why Suspicious Energy drink sims higher then the other two?
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/disXdYqsfmvF5P9rk7gyxu
Because it’s awesome
But shouldnt be better if bloodmallet is to be belived 😛
Not sure what bloodmallet says
Was really hoping to hear about balance tuning for tomorrow for fury but the announcement window is closing. Guess mediocrity is our home

Balance tuning 9 times out of 10 gets announced on like Friday evenings
was it ever really different in the last 3 expansions?
except being below mediocre
Why does the community as a whole seem to dislike warrior (besides prot)
Nah you know what’s funny @unreal onyx I was just talking to my friends about starting as whatever bis melee spec is for next tier and just full focusing it . Never experienced being like that meta spec everyone wants. Always played warrior
But I feel I won’t enjoy the game if I’m not warrior it’s all I know !
I feel the same lol
I can play other classes well but nothing scratches that itch like warrior does
playing fury just scratches that itch i always have playing wow man
should we use thuner clap on single target ?
I wish fury was better in m+ but I still somewhat enjoy arms
Only if you have a proc
I mean, still viable enough
Otherwise use it as a "I have no other buttons to push"
Yeah it is, but if you mostly pug like I do , you're going to have a better time going arms
Yea I feel like I’m soulbound to fury. Nothing else in the game feels the same. I think windwalker was the closest for me but I think I’m in love with the charge ability of all things 🤣
Even then signing up for 13s as arms feels like I'm applying to Harvard with a GPA of 2 lol
Fury isn’t bad in m+ cause of boss dmg and good prio dmg but when it comes to looking at meters it just feels terrible
If you understand what happens behind the meters it isn’t bad
I'm 669 and do good damage and barely die but people prefer meta classes even when it's a 13 and you don't need it
Yea I’m 670 and have almost all 14’s but they have mostly been handouts from my vdh friend haha
I hold my own in them but it’s pretty rare someone shoots me an inv by their own free will
Once I tuned 14 priory I just used it as leverage for others 🤣
Have you thought to make your own group? I find it's hard to get declined an invite. If you're the one doing the inviting
Yea I enjoy making my own group! Especially with resilience keys now its nice
It’s what climbed me through the 13’s cause they were easy
I do its just a hassle of having to rank up a 12, get a 13, get unlucky with the players and have it deplete and rinse and repeat
Be more picky
making my own group made me clear top 15, yday got flood 14 and top 15 with the same random team i builded from pug (rare stuff but it can happen lol)
Instead of just glancing at io score. Look them up
Fair
Or make a checklist not sure enough people do this
I literally only pugged up to 3.1k io to be able to get into weekly 10s
down the line
just buy brezzes
If I really want a safety key I get Druid and pally for extra damage reduction haha
Yea I always forget jumper cables but no one ever uses them in the keys I run (including me so maybe that’s why)
If I can help it I want a druid, monk, and either a shaman or hunter
I also will just force the dream comp but with me as the dollar store unholy dk
So vdh me mage boomie disc
Or I’ll run physical with vdh/prot pal mm hunter me enhance and priest or another sham
I like mm hunters a lot idk why
You can do a 13 with any comp as long as you have a lust
Because they FUCK. I've seen an mm hunter burst 40m
It's literally just mechanics and doing your part in damage/heals
But 15’s I’m not sure I haven’t had the time to start messing with them
Yea they’re so sick. They used to always be dead in my keys but they’re built different now! Idk if the rework made them more convenient to play or what
Highest I've hit as arms is 20m 
I've hit that on my 640 mm
Granted I had a lot of good procs
Just shows the AOE disparity between classes 
1st boss in flood gate actually was hilarious. I pressed 2 buttons. And shot straight to 14m dps. Had to RUN cuz I ripped aggro on all the mobs and boss
If you get lucky with tier procs it gets fast
That was at 635
I play arms because you have better AOE than fury and still do good boss damage
I wish fury was better in keys
It's so fun but seeing boomy and dk or mage at 20m+ while I'm fighting for my life at 10m
It's depressing
Fury has mid AOE but still near the top on bosses
Fury is better for priority targets
Yeah I agree. But still. I like big number
Yeah big number is nice, but you also gotta remember how many bosses where that better AOE is just padding
I.e rotgut from TOP
Or first boss of dfc
Nah the true pumper boss is azerokk motherlode
Fury's main strength is making the bosses go quicker
Im slammin there
I've noticed at least that the higher you go it's less about the adds and more about the bosses
At least the pugs I've been in we'll blow up trash and then the boss takes like five minutes
(actual time might be an exaggeration)
You are not wrong, you will spend more time on bosses and trash. It is only that trash is a lot easier to efficently blow up than a boss. It is why we can cope and say "Prio dam matters
"
and then boss dam looks like this, and you wonder: "Do I bring anything?"
battle shout is nice in that comp 😄
true, also monk buff - but hunter bring nothing but a 1% ish buff from Mark. Hunter was clearly carried that boss fight, their low ST value for sure makes up the twice the AoE dam
I do enjoy MM tho, it do good dam, and got burst. So is fun 
As it is fun, it will get removed out of the game soon. So ya lads should play it while it exists
you need a shaman in there somewhere
skyfury too good
oh truuu
instead of ret. bdk has cr
I'm starting to think using WW/TC is better than slam even in ST alot of the time because I often get 0 rage when slamming and the only time slam is useful is when you don't have enough rage to cast rampage but can't cast BT or RB
you should only ever slam when you dont run improved whirlwind and even then that slam is so useless you wouldnt notice a dmg difference if you just went afk instead
your filler of choice should be tclap or whirlwind in 99% of cases
u have convinced me, I'm changing my slam keybind to WW/Tclap. (my muscle memory is already set for Filler = F)
yes I realize now that F is too good a keybind for a dogshit filler spell but
its too late now
don't wanna relearn it
my whirlwind/slam is on my 2 button
I only ever slam over whirlwind on sprocketmonger
my ww/Tclap is q
but I'm also gonna put it on F
yeah use the ww/tclap/slam macro
or actually il use that macro
Haven't played since the current patches. With the change to avatar are we still pressing reckless and ava together? Or do we space em out
reck > charge > ava > rampage
together but with anger management they will often be desynced now
but at beginning always together
I always take wowhead with a grain of salt and would prefer to ask here for the niche questions lol
Awesome just want i needed to know
wowhead guide is usually written by one of the biggest nerds in the class discord
so usually its pretty good
So, I am pretty new to Fury and a bit surprised at how much the spec sucks in M+ and is just meh in raid. From searching around, it looks like there is a long history of Fury getting shafted in the performance department. Any hope for us?
Exactly this lol
its good in raid, just not giga
ye with talents especially
u also have to use ur own brain
fury is a very solid raid spec
fury is amazing for prog because we are the most survivable DPS in the entire game
regarding m+? probably nothing changing until s3, it's very solid in raid already so i'd imagine no changes there
quit yapping thats just a flat out lie
what DPS is more survivable
I managed to get all 14s timed in M+ as Fury and 1 15 timed. I think I am at the point though where I can't go any higher without buffs. No group wants Fury.
Maybe TOP sometimes
yea sounds about right
what about them makes them more survivable? spell reflection every 20 seconds is insanely broken
dh????
not to mention their passive tankiness being really high
lmao very valuable statistic
its just something that aids the argument, its not the entire argument itself
Just sucks that Blizz can't spend a couple minutes buffing Fury so we can play with the other kids in M+.
I don't need to be meta-but just not hot garbage.
Rogue has feint, cloak, evasion (and atrophic poison for everyone), DH has dummy passive leech, a lot more passive healing than warrior with BT, short cd defensive and darkness, DK just doesn't die idk what to tell u Iskus
Go complain on the forums
This is an echo chamber
except dks have to spam death strike to stay alive
OK BROTHERS, COME WITH ME. LET'S ORGANZIE AND POST ON THE FORUMS TOGETHER! HURRAH!
I wonder how many of those hunter deaths were just hunters being dumbasses
Also its more fun to do that
its ok tho since ams most broken defensive in the game
DK clicking death strike is like fury clicking impending
impending is a 20sec cd global that doesnt take shit
Does Blizz read the class guides? Instead of the guide authors making it sound like Fury is viable in M+ they could flat out say we suck. That might get attention?
they can spam death strike all they want 😭
yet never will
pls make impending have no cd
w change
Getting bricked up just thinking about no cd imp
How about

make fury burst feel like burst again :)))))
we had this conversation 3 hrs ago
bla bla OF burst
blabla press button deal dmg
bla bla
oh idc about of burst
cracks knuckles OF ya say
gET LOST
But like
Line 1 of the guides on Wowhead and Icy Veins should make it clear that Fury is ass at M+.
in high aoe m+ pulls yea, not in overall and also not in raids
Well yeah
but when most of these dungeons are
high aoe m+ pulls
kinda normal for me to beat fury in alot of pulls
or tie
its
cringe
idk people doom on fury a lot
is there any specific spec (not class) that is meta in m+ every season?
I think fury not having hella aoe is fine
Shaman and DK seem safe
Like I said, I doint need to have the best AOE, but some would be nice.
its always disc priest of hpal recently ngl
fire pretty common
unholy also frequent
Mage in general
last few szns at least
what you want doesn't matter when good game design is the goal
yea i mean he says specs who cares about the other 2
Well they have missed that multiple times now so
When is the last time Fury was good in M+?
n/a
vanilla
But at least it’s hella fun
legion s1
Fury has always been good its just never been the best
It's our turn!
This
And its just worse this season because it is a large target count dungeon pool while fury does good dps it does not have really good burst or util
it just falls behind in comparison
great st
but
Blizzard has been griefing Fury by not having consistent target caps across specs/classes
yea but arms exist and fury plays should try to be flexible
arms is rly fun this season
why bring a fury warrior that can do 2mil in st and 5 mil in aoe when dk can do 2mil in st and 10 mil in aoe
Now someone might jump on me for saying this but
Just fucking uncap every class in the game
Never touching Arms for PvE
open the door for everyone else
To be fair, fury would do 2.1m and DK 2m, not 2 and 2
It will not hurt anything
I mean
Just need to uncap Meat Cleaver, or add more targets. 4 is crap.
Only way I can get into 15 keys as Fury is to whisper the leader that I am a voodoo priest in RL and will give him bad luck for several months if no invite.
Recently people have been putting "tipping 500k if we finish" into their descriptions - just to scammaz the entire party after finishing the key
True I play prot now so it doesn't matter where fury is at
just makes me sad to see that state its in
Gotta try this.
Fury was pretty trash last season too, I think we’re in a better spot relative to that
Do we have a dedicated dev we can communicate with?
this will get you in trouble fyi
I have only played Arms twice, Once during Season 4 PvPing with full corrupted gear and max ilvl bleed 2H I forgot name off and second time was at beginning of Castle Nathria because guild forced me because of how bad Fury was but they shortly afterwards buffed Fury and I was able to shine
doesnt know how arms plays
refuses to play it
you're missing out cuh
If we there is a DPS Warrior dev on the Blizzard team they should really do a wellness check and make sure he/she is still with us.
Blissful ignorance


are you optimizing MFE stacks at least
and VC
so you can get away with only playing fury
?
Dunno what that mumbo jomblo means because I haven't played retail for a while XD
Sac majique
a friend of mine did this
i told him not to
but he still did
and the guy he scammed went into his guild and ratted him out infront of everyone with screenshots
and they kicked him out of the guild
💀
based guild
All fun and games till someone fakes the screenshots
To the extent there are any M+ where Fury does well at higher keys, is there anything other than TOP?
Pull counts are so high for most of these keys except for TOP.
Are even performing that especially well in ToP?
Well, no. Just not as poorly as the others?
I timed a 15 DFC as Fury. I think if I want to hit 2200, I just need to stick with TOP. Anything else I feel like a carry.
Just turn off trash that doesnt do anything but pad meters on details, and ya wont look half as bad
Labourers spawned by the 1st boss in DFC, is a good example
Remove em, and you suddenly aint that far behind, if not ahead
I just minimize details until the dungeons over. Tbh I haven’t been looking sometimes.
Just accepted whatever it is at this point.
I thought my Fury was good on ToP but on arms I just gapped it.
Fury aint the worst thing ever, it can do its job 'fine'. Just do your best to keep the mental from going to "am I being boosted?"
I know. I had to go Arms to get most of my 14s timed. Couldn't get in a group otherwise, but I really don't like Arms.
fake news, i main arms and im still not getting into groups
I didn't say that it was easy to get into groups as Arms. But, here and there I would get in. To get into a 15 key as Fury I have to send inappropriate photos.
Above in this channel someone said that people had been putting "500K gold upon timing" and then just bouncing. There is always that above board play.
I'm looking over some Stixx logs and noticed that the top log casts differ a lot from the rotation suggested by sims. It looks like their prio is Rampage -> Bloodthirst -> Raging Blow but sims suggest Rampage -> Raging Blow -> Bloodthirst. This is for Thane btw
Warrior dev knows we cant read so they dont have to worry about changing things
warrior dev is the peon from warcraft 3
i wonder why class devs don't work with their class discords
he would get publicly executed
💀
imagine all the "@" he would get saying stuff like "FIX FURY"
yeah def should be a kinda connection between player/dev cuz theyre clearly clueless atm
he prolly stopped playing warrior and swapped to mage 💀
Probably people prioing bloodthirst to fish for thunderblast procs
but i had to go moonkin for our fight so 🤷♂️
Fury
Rage
Anger
Mild annoyance
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This is what happens when you're hard capped at 5
guys, cant find this information. but is "best-in-Slots" on a wrong tooltip?
item calls -> "5k" sec stats. but procc AND on use give me just about 1200-1300 stat each?
fury 
hum.. does that mean, on arms its like 5k ? as tooltip calls?
oh, no, idk. I haven't used bis all season.
mild inconvenience
if i recall correctly you might be practicing on pvp dummies which halves your buff gains
can someone copy and paste the slam/ww/tclap macro? the one in pins is only for slam and WW, but not Tclap
oh.. big ty @fickle cedar this should be the solution.. and also its on fury reduced, cuz of dw, i guess
Worst part is, the one I gave it to the last time... Was you 
ty
u gave it to grudenz
i was there tho
but at the time i wasnt using the macro or was even aware it was useful
didnt remember

im using it and its not casting whirlwind while TC is on CD
isnt it supposed to?
Nop, it just replaces the ability. Why would you ever cast WW and not TC?
if theres ever a situation where TC, raging blow, and BT are all unavailable and you have less than 80 rage
so u cant cast rampage
i wander if theres a way i can alter it to make it prioritize TC but use WW if not
ima try adding cast Whirlwind
didnt work
Nop, best you can do is a mod keybind. Still, in your 1 in a 1000 scenario, just use wrecking throw, shockwave or stormbolt
i unbound throw because ive accidently pulled raid bosses with it twice since i use G as the keybind and G is also ping 
unbound it on fury at least
also one time i accidently charged boss with my reck/ava macro
before countdown was up
cuz i wanted to pop CDs early for rik
xdd
didnt die tho
somehow
These things happen, melee moment 
yeah that's a dog
Based on the hooves and horns, I would say that ain't a dog
if it has 4 legs it's a dog
secret tech
First favorite moment
what do I set sims for gally/rik patchwork 5 bosses?
don't
Patch 1 target. 5 mins. Don't try to sim a specific boss.
Tfw you never get chosen for xav pvp 
Every second you waste in the pvp portion is slowing the key down
while I would never use cds in there; healing, cc etc would be actively griefing the key.
However… if someone calls you a bitch or something… you throw everything at them… CDs maybe a Storm Bolt…
where can I find the tech to get out of add circles on mythic mugzee? we leap insta? or how do we do it

