fury

[coarse nest]

No contest

[random raptor]

Critcake because he taught me warrior since I started mid s2 df

[chilly fractal]

George

[last sparrow]

wolfdisco

[coarse nest]

Arms specifically tmy is goated

[little escarp]

🤣🤣🤣

[dense elbow]

That aint you brøh

[random raptor]

brøh

[coarse nest]

Man will show private log dps and just gap the public logs by like 500k

Actual animal

[random raptor]

yeah insanity

[chilly fractal]

Stormya just because they are the warrior in the execute video

[coarse nest]

Based

[chilly fractal]

Speaking of….

[dense elbow]

Oh, that is a strong reason to be the goat

[coarse nest]

[chilly fractal]

https://youtu.be/6hMqvb8QiUk?si=E5S69cXQM5AyOxZz

[oblique trail]

The shadowpriest of the execute video should be persecuted for making it

[dense elbow]

[rich flame]

Odyns Fury, my beloved

[little escarp]

I remember atrocity being pretty good as warrior. What happened to him?

[dense elbow]

His actions caught up to him

[little escarp]

Rerolled to udk? 🤣

[dense elbow]

Offtopic, but with this patch, anyone elses resolution keep being wrong. So you got to toggle a different one and back to fix it?

annoying

[remote bobcat]

it happens to me every now and then regardless of patch

like once every 2 weeks ish

[dense elbow]

Time to make an angry forum post about it

[full valve]

fullscreen issue

why am i getting this recommended

[elfin belfry]

Because you need to reroll to ret pally.

[full valve]

hmmmmmmm

[elfin belfry]

I don't make the rules, bud

[full valve]

theres no way i run delves again

[remote bobcat]

dont ever utter these pathetic words again

[elfin belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/get-in-there-now-whilst-you-can-daniel-ibbertson-dj-slope-slopes-game-room-take-advantage-of-this-gif-26960978

[full valve]

https://tenor.com/view/depression-falling-down-gif-26367565

[dense elbow]

This is my life now

[full valve]

holy wreck value

[marble pilot]

Where is it useful? Gally for 1 gcd?

[remote bobcat]

what am i looking at here whats the context

[dense elbow]

Just one cast of each, both are 45 sec CDs

[full valve]

IPA if u "accidentally" let a blob reach the boss

[elfin belfry]

[marble pilot]

Probably makes Underpin?? a bit easier. But it wasnt hard to do in the first place

[young swan]

he was always a multiclasser

[remote bobcat]

is this you progging gallywix mythic with both odyns and wrecking throw ?

[dense elbow]

Hah, no

I just find it funny that Wrecking hits equally hard as OF

[remote bobcat]

of course

why wouldnt it?

[smoky vale]

of sucks

@dense elbow

[dense elbow]

True, both are 45 sec abilities

OF can get AoE value after all

Wrecking Throw cant crit, right?

[remote bobcat]

correct

[dense elbow]

OF stands supreme

💪

[remote bobcat]

what does OF do vs shields?

🤏

[dense elbow]

Not if there are more than 5 shields

[remote bobcat]

well played, sir

[sullen dove]

myess I too enjoy engaging in player versus player combat with 5 priests

surely 5 shields is a frequent occurrence anywhere in the game

On some real shit throw wrecking is kinda insane now

[dense elbow]

If wrecking could cleave, I promise you the devs would make that scenario in the next raid

[sullen dove]

Even not for shields in raid at least I feel u lose nothing and it’s significant dmg when forced off boss

and like gally just slam that shit when ur forced off still gain stonks

[dense elbow]

It is kinda a makeshift ranged rampage cast if you dodge in and out. A lot better than heroic throw, that is for sure

Big gains vs swirlies of doom

[edgy widget]

not that significant due to the cooldown, though it's a small gain for sure

gotta balance that against what you give up though, which is easier for some builds than others

[full valve]

anyone here got Taeshalach?

[young swan]

ye

[full valve]

how many attempts

[young swan]

probably around 20

[fair thistle]

got legendary boots BUT NOT WEAPON

[young swan]

maybe more actually

[full valve]

holy

[young swan]

20 attempts post legion

probably closer to like 50 i guess

[full valve]

ive done 6 so far and is not looking good

[earnest canyon]

What's taeshalach

[full valve]

the sword from aggramar

just got this tho

[young swan]

sword

[full valve]

0.2% drop chance

[earnest canyon]

Ooh fancy

[full valve]

u got the scythe too?

[young swan]

only red scythe

[full valve]

nah bro u lucky as hell wtf

[woven valley]

Is it really that low? I got it back in legion on a really early run I did

[smoky vale]

me when i got scythe first time doing antorus

[woven valley]

Didn’t realize it was such a low drop chance

[young swan]

yeah i feel like its not that low

[woven valley]

Damn. I always get lucky when I’m not paying attention lol 😂

[young swan]

i mean we had like

1 drop almost every raid

so

maybe its bad now, but back in the day they dropped like candy

[full valve]

thats litearlly it, when u are not searching for it u get it... if u farm it u gonna be doing it for years

[smoky vale]

when 5 war keys

[young swan]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[smoky vale]

wait does second wind work on dfc 3rd boss?

[young swan]

yeah

[smoky vale]

thats maybe timeable then

hmmm

[young swan]

is there a dungeon that isnt timeable with 5 warr this season?

[smoky vale]

ig minecatt tank has to just a lot

[young swan]

maybe mechagon is rough

[smoky vale]

how do we deal with tank dispell

on kujo

lol

[young swan]

yeah thats what im saying

its prob rough

[smoky vale]

gg

or floodgate

top is fine

[young swan]

oh floodgate 3rd?

yeah

uhhh

rookery last would prob be not great

[smoky vale]

its probably playable

but hard

motherlode whoever gets fixated

motherlode: yes
top: yes
fg: no
dfc: yes
workshop: no
rookery: ???
priory: super annoying
cinderbrew: super annoying

dunno how you make heal checks on priory or cinderbrew

[pulsar prawn]

nah just as choose option where the useless fear is

[fiery tide]

How bad would it be to run fury with arms stat prio?

[hardy bluff]

other way around is better

but it works if you have to play fury for something

[fiery tide]

might be needed for oab prog, just wanted to know how screwed I would be, got like 0 gear for fury

[hardy bluff]

just play arms

arms is alright on that boss

[shrewd osprey]

i have a question regarding the Best-in-slot weapons on use effect, what would be the best macro for it? reck or avatar or both even.

[hardy bluff]

none if you are using any other on use trinkets

[shrewd osprey]

trinkets are passive

only on use is weapon

[hardy bluff]

reck should be fine then

[shrewd osprey]

ok thank you have had it macroed to avatar so far

[hardy bluff]

then you would cast it on pull and then again on 3minutes when the cd is 2min

kinda bad

[shrewd osprey]

yeah was kinda smoothbrain moment when i made that macro then forgot about it but got reminded of it when someone wrote that they put it on reck instead

[rich veldt]

did blizz really change the chips for 11.1.5?

[hardy bluff]

wdym change

[rich veldt]

they really like being the hero

3 instead of 2 items

max 672 for non raiders

[hardy bluff]

yea

[rich veldt]

at this point im 100% confident they do it on purpose

so they can adjust and be some hero

wallah

[hardy bluff]

people dont care about that currently

[rich veldt]

''look at us listening to the community''

[hardy bluff]

open twitter

[chilly fractal]

All they changed was adding 1 more item

[hardy bluff]

m+ players are mad

[chilly fractal]

672 was in the initial announcement

[rich veldt]

im mad too

9 rating and i can stop playing this god forsaken game

sike dinar hype dinar hype

[edgy widget]

took me one attempt, got it our first kill of prog 💪

[full valve]

lucky mfs

[thick fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/yeet-gif-25477476

I'm on about 200 or so now.

[edgy widget]

have you tried being lucky?

[full valve]

how about the felhound

[smoky vale]

where is your scythe bud

[thick fossil]

I've seen 0 scythes, and 0 Tesch.

[thick fossil]

I do have all the mounts though.

[smoky vale]

dunno wat tell you

only other thing that happened when i did antorus

was 6 hours of keys

rando 16/17s into 5 war into antorus

[thick fossil]

[chilly fractal]

Got blue scythe right when the raid came out…. Still haven’t seen red or sword

[left perch]

I still don’t have Garr binding

farming on paladin with baron binding since idk wrath or cata

[last sparrow]

think i got fire sword first kill

[left perch]

I also didn’t get tusks on remix so, prison for dumb there

[sour frigate]

@dense elbow my 645 dk

[dense fulcrum]

more dmg than fury

[chilly fractal]

I’ve gotten both bindings twice before I saw the Eye

Wanted that FoS for so long

[dense elbow]

Hoy, 1st pull cinder, with perfect procs, I beat that

So hah

sobs in corner

[smoky vale]

why are you not playing green

[modest ridge]

hey, anyone knows the soft cap for secondary stats for fury ?

[coarse nest]

42.069% mastery is bis

[modest ridge]

cap!

[sour frigate]

its floodgate (

cinder is 10+

[dense elbow]

Still dont shake my point

[undone flower]

With a shield right ?

[sour frigate]

i do 🔥 🐲

did weekly today

vibe for dk now

[undone flower]

You game on drake now ?

[sour frigate]

learning

[undone flower]

Im yellow learning personnaly

I just did my workshop 12 with 640 ilvl everything one shots me and the tanks chainpull

[dense elbow]

+1 for reference

[rich veldt]

Opened twitter I am entertained

😭

[smoky vale]

no i mena uh

[sour frigate]

🤼‍♂️

?

[hardy bluff]

its mega content

[undone flower]

the only voice i listen

[warm crag]

tomrus is right fuck those gatekeepers

[warm crag]

check reddit aswell

[earnest canyon]

Has he ever been positive about anything

[undone flower]

he is the concept of wisdom

he doesn't post that much when i check his comments history, but each time it is gold

but i respect that

[hardy bluff]

im checking everything

https://tenor.com/view/batman-dark-knight-surveillance-gif-21733581

[fading sky]

Tomrus is bis

[dapper goblet]

goober swordish shouldnt be allowed to buy bis gear from a boss he didnt suffer on

[sullen dove]

[left perch]

any enjoyers

[full valve]

sometimes i enjoy sometimes i hate

[whole yacht]

i never enjoy

i just hate

[marble pilot]

Zug Zug always

[full valve]

who tf made this achievement

freaky ahh argussy

[left perch]

why

[left perch]

blizzard: we are removing paintings in dungeons no one runs that are too risqué and weird

also blizzard: argussy up baby

[candid falcon]

probably because "gussy up" means to dress in fancy clothes and they didnt know people in several years would make these jokes

[full valve]

[sour frigate]

Shelksussy

[quiet breach]

I am starting to think it will be easier to get 3k io as a decent prot warrior than as a good fury warrior

[sour frigate]

Loboz does 15th

Think about it

@dense elbow u2 btw

[dense elbow]

sup?

[full valve]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-reacts-flightreacts-tongue-tongue-laugh-gif-13724048537815479089

[dense elbow]

wut u on about now?

[sour frigate]

Loboz does 15th in slayer build

Git gud

[dense elbow]

I mean, while I was doing keys, he was bellow me

[sour frigate]

U wanna say he boosted?

[dense elbow]

Anyone under me in any for shape or in any term, should delete WoW and never play again

it is that bad

[sour frigate]

[dense elbow]

I am the lowest of bars

[sour frigate]

I thought im bad

[remote violet]

howcome did they change Thuinderclap to no longer give Whirlwind bufF?

[sour frigate]

They didnt

[warm crag]

they just removed it from you bud

[sour frigate]

Target nerfs new feature

[warm crag]

(check your talents fool)

[remote bobcat]

did you not skill into meat cleave and improved whirlwind or whatever the talents are called?

[sour frigate]

What about hero tree

[warm crag]

that talent setup is crazy

level 24 drip

[full valve]

[sour frigate]

[chilly fractal]

Only gets buffed if your Mountain Thane

[dense elbow]

It bugs out at time from time if you do instanced content with a que system. If you are doing leveling dungs and it suddenly stopped working

[dense elbow]

you just got to relog

[sour frigate]

U need to be mountain thane

[remote violet]

even says so om murlok io

[warm crag]

what level are you

[remote violet]

it is as mounta thane

https://murlok.io/warrior/fury/mountain-thane/mm+

liek

is it gone??

[dense elbow]

I just answered you

please read

[warm crag]

what level are you

[sour frigate]

Man

Ure not thane

[full valve]

how u mountain thane as lvl 24

[sour frigate]

Yet

[remote violet]

like

[dense elbow]

like

[remote violet]

look the tooltips from murlok io

[remote bobcat]

read this HERO talent node

[warm crag]

what level are you

[remote violet]

it does not say it

[warm crag]

what level are you

[sour frigate]

It shouldn't

Diff talent

[dense elbow]

Can you zoom in?

[remote bobcat]

hero talent

[dense elbow]

I cant see

[remote violet]

Thanks!

[dense elbow]

There we go

perfekt

[remote bobcat]

ja

[chilly fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/perfection-perfect-michael-fassbender-magneto-x-men-first-class-gif-2260686001358167676

[chilly fractal]

If only there were a super zoomed in version of that gif

[sour frigate]

🧐

[remote bobcat]

uhhhhhhhhh

[sullen dove]

still don’t know what level that guy was

but def wasnt max

[remote bobcat]

1981

[chilly fractal]

Like

[dense elbow]

like, indeed

[warm crag]

her mind virus upon you all

[mossy fox]

[remote bobcat]

[gilded pawn]

This guy crashed out

Felt embarrassed

Then left

[remote bobcat]

Humanitydh has a crazy crashout on twt lol

[young swan]

shocker

[full valve]

gangster

[runic pine]

Probably skill issue but man why do I feel like such a shitter in keys as fury

[remote bobcat]

5 target cap

thumb

[full valve]

cuz u are playing fury and not arms

[storm rune]

arms has cleave, fury has 5 target cleave, why arms better?

[runic pine]

Hey man, the warrior with the most io is fury 😛

[full valve]

cleave is SOFT capped 5 targets

whirlwind procs are HARD capped 5 targets

[storm rune]

but hard is better than soft when hitting things no?

[full valve]

[runic pine]

just feels so insanely bad going into like a 14 and just being behind so much compared to anything that isn't hard capped

[smoky vale]

w

should press n > arms

[storm rune]

n > prot

revenge is what cleave wishes it was

[runic pine]

But then I'm so much more prone to bad healers

[smoky vale]

idk what to tell you bud

i dont feel like i need a healer as warrior

1 heal every 5 globals is enough for me

[runic pine]

tell me that arms gets big WW back

[dense elbow]

Arms got big WW, it is renamed to cleave

[runic pine]

not the same

I liked my 10 sec CD ww

[dense elbow]

I liked OF doing dam

[runic pine]

same

[full valve]

real

[smoky vale]

i too miss storm of steel ww

it was actually 11s

[runic pine]

SoS was bis

[dense elbow]

But... 5% overall dam with only those few points invested into it is strong

[smoky vale]

er swords

wait

it was 14 seconds

hoyl

[runic pine]

idk it was nice

[smoky vale]

yeah

it was good

[full valve]

OF is not hard capped

[dense elbow]

Could as much be, it does 0 dam

[smoky vale]

i dont think ive pressed of

in 5 months

[dense elbow]

I would say you been missing out

but ye

[tidal kindle]

OF is hardcapped

[smoky vale]

garm i need ro bring my warrior to hit bosses

[clever belfry]

OF is hardcapped to doing piss low damage yeah

[dense elbow]

^

[smoky vale]

hi passive aggressive communist

[sour frigate]

Handicapped u mean

[clever belfry]

full title please

[smoky vale]

meow

[dense elbow]

hi :3

[smoky vale]

destroy of

[dense elbow]

whiii so mean

[smoky vale]

playing other specs makes warrior less fun

[full valve]

bro workshop is cursed i swear

[smoky vale]

its prob one of the hardest keys this season, yes

[full valve]

standing behind a box cant be that hard

[dense elbow]

I havent tried it after the box fix, and I dont want

I want my 95+% uptime back

[full valve]

everytime i do workshop i get the most cursed ppl possible

[dense elbow]

If it happens every time... there is a common factor in all the runs, and it aint the ppl

[sour frigate]

i overtimed it by 1-3 seconds 3 times already

[smoky vale]

that boss is just really bad

[sour frigate]

cursed asf

[smoky vale]

also

the garden is so randomly hard

[full valve]

Ye is consistent how i see ppl die to not getting to tha box

also

[dense elbow]

Shelks hamstring his team while they run to the box confirmed

[full valve]

im playing lock/mage/vdh/priest and im top dps without PI

[full valve]

real

[fair thistle]

this is nonsense

fury is shit

arms is good

noxiv is top 1 cause he is goat and has same team since beginning

[full valve]

that garden is a test, to see how much the tank likes u

if he sees u are having TOO much fun he starts sprinting with the boss between the beams

[dense elbow]

you werent joking when you said you played with cursed ppl, eh

[sour frigate]

real test is the prelast pack skip

failed it everytime

today i had to kill it alone

me dh and shaman

rogue and paladin were perma dead to it

and didnt stop int

-1.5 min

[dense elbow]

you failed the skip, with a rogue?

[sour frigate]

yes

[dense elbow]

how

[sour frigate]

dh casted sigil too early

and pulled

[full valve]

lmao

[dense elbow]

You talking about the pack you just shroud and run around, to get to the last two bots and one guy of the dung, before last boss?

[sour frigate]

yes

[dense elbow]

How?

I cant

how? you run around the mobs

[sour frigate]

i say dh revealed too soon

[dense elbow]

[sour frigate]

before this

we died while skipping

therefore death skip

[full valve]

absolute chad comp

[sour frigate]

into few deathes to bugs on boss

1 sec off

[undone flower]

I did fail the skip on my rdruid bc the tank pulled too soon

[sour frigate]

ok i go again\

[dense elbow]

That is Loboz, 100%

[sour frigate]

wish me balls

[undone flower]

Blow up

[full valve]

[full valve]

IT IS

[dense elbow]

Told ya, I play with him enough to know he is one of three warriors who play double Fury

[full valve]

is this the legend the myth

[sour frigate]

apply with "dps race"

[dense elbow]

^

It is myself, lobo and gala with his friend

basically 99% of all double Fury keys

[smoky vale]

3 demons

[full valve]

he took a ret pally

[smoky vale]

you need to be banished

[sour frigate]

3 harbingers

[full valve]

the riders of the apocalypse

[undone flower]

3 blood beasts

[dense elbow]

Basically, yea

[sour frigate]

monk > meta specs

[dense elbow]

I spot no meta spec in that group

what you on about

[inner zinc]

Anyone tried bringing wrecking throw to rookery? Curious if its actually worth it for last boss

Or even priory

[dense elbow]

Yes and no, it is alright

[inner zinc]

So it needs another 500% dmg increase

[dense elbow]

It was 1% of my overall, but it did do 7m on each shield set, so prob some value there bringing boss down

[full valve]

i actually forgot that one has a shield

[dense elbow]

Wrecking does a lot of dam

it is in a fine spot as a specialised tool, and also good for 2nd boss, when he forces you to run

it is what, 15-20 heroic throws worth, in raw dam in one

[inner zinc]

Dude mathed out the heroic throw per wrecking throw

[dense elbow]

One heroic throw is 40k ish? non-enraged wrecking is 600k ish?

quick maths

[full valve]

can confirm

[dense elbow]

Some times I scare myself

[runic pine]

I didn’t say it was because fury is better

[oblique trail]

#1 passive aggressive ballsunist

[full valve]

u guys think if i apply to parties with "pumper" on message ill get accepted

[oblique trail]

no because no one will take you seriously

I would personally go out of my way to decline you

[dense elbow]

^

[full valve]

can confirm

[runic pine]

if you're going to leave a note it should either be genuinely helpful or actually funny

[dense elbow]

... now, maybe you should try whispering the leader "I do good dam, big pumper, inv" I heard that works

[full valve]

i will try saying something like "10k io main, i have lust and bress"

[smoky vale]

i can never tell fi i invite terrorists

no rio no clue

[full valve]

what can i possibly say in my defense playing warrior

[runic pine]

"engi brez"

[dense elbow]

"drumz"

[runic pine]

at least you're telling them you're bringing something

more than most people

[smoky vale]

i just spam sign up to keys

on dk

and get in

[full valve]

then a pally shows up and im cooked

[silver glen]

out of curiosity: is second wind currently bugged or some weird interactions? i see people having tons and tons of healing done by it. maybe its something that broke with 11.1.5?
e.g. Rik Reverb: healing done by Second wind goes completely nuts (as far as i notice since patch 11.1.5) before that -> nothing
e.g. gallywix: before patch 11.1.5 mostly nothing -> amongst your top selfheal

Rik:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Z9tkADc3HpdVgQMh?fight=11&type=healing&source=19
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Z2h9dqWPmrgKfDaG?fight=12&type=healing&source=117
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/LNzkhbf74JMR91Wt?fight=22&type=healing&source=12
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/vz7C3aXq48TyKLrA?fight=55&type=healing&source=6&translate=true

Gally:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/BCPVMxZY4nyHb2NT?fight=10&type=healing&source=24
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/nKaAr3XNWtQv4M6H?fight=15&type=healing&source=10
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Z4ktN6rV9GpvcJhf?fight=19&type=healing&target=202&source=202

[runic pine]

like genuinely if you put something simple in there like "engi brez, health potions, combat pots" that actually makes you stand out and isn't something stupid like "I do big dam"

[full valve]

just for u griff (matt) im gonna buy a engi br and say that

just for u

[runic pine]

[full valve]

Griff(Matt) u lied to me

[full valve]

thats the cheatcode

[edgy widget]

Probably some obscure change with the patch; second wind is famously finicky on what damage does/not interrupt it

Probably wasn’t even intentional! Lol

[fair thistle]

u supposed it

[sour frigate]

i mean

[fair thistle]

12 deaths

the answer is here

[sour frigate]

no

the answer is

healer died 2 times insta

[fair thistle]

well its pug man

what do you want us to say

it all do be shit like that sometimes

[full valve]

cooked

[sour frigate]

i wanna hug

[fair thistle]

hugs

[sour frigate]

[fair thistle]

XD

[sour frigate]

4th time for today tho

literally

someone ints

on the lasts boss

[fair thistle]

broooo FUCK PUG

[sour frigate]

into few sec overtime

[fair thistle]

its been 3 days im trying to time PSF AND CINDER

IMPOSSIBLE CHALLENGE

[smoky vale]

my dog says hi

[sour frigate]

hi gios dog 👋

meta specs

[full valve]

https://tenor.com/view/yessir-4tmeme-4tomistalt-4tomist-4t-gif-2120889944240199540

[sour frigate]

i died on pull might be bigger

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/914122521857650720/1358594399369691207/3453245342.gif

[compact knot]

some things are going crazy on some bosses, for example https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/hctVXBNQ8Z9P2GLm?fight=105&type=healing&source=719

rogue doing 3 million hps on cauldron

outlaw*

[sour frigate]

didnt u hear?

new spec

healer rog

[smoky vale]

how does killing spree heal

[oblique trail]

It prevents 100% of damage taken and staggers it

[sour frigate]

it does stagger

[oblique trail]

And they killing spree'd during the beam

Which normally does infinite damage and oneshots

[smoky vale]

i love rogue

[compact knot]

wait

so this guy intentionally killed himself twice

so he could do this

thats insane

[smoky vale]

r1 healing log or

[compact knot]

i thought this had to just be a bug but i wasnt sure

[compact knot]

top 300

[smoky vale]

zzz

he also needs gs

ig

or a ps

[sour frigate]

man i need a ps

i suffer from overtimed mechagon too much

[smoky vale]

i suffer from lack of pi

[full valve]

real

[sour frigate]

executed

[smoky vale]

what does you name say

[sour frigate]

Bcheck

[runic pine]

no I didn't

[sour frigate]

skyrim pic?

[full valve]

actual wowpedia pic for that achievement page

[sour frigate]

oh man

i just realized

i have oblivion remastered ready to play

[full valve]

same here

[smoky vale]

whats oblivion

[clever path]

elder scrolls

the game before skyrim

[fair thistle]

mb then

[full valve]

https://tenor.com/view/oblivion-gif-18732240

[sour frigate]

my fans be like

[plush ice]

Open up fury chat on phone, see oblivion memes, smile

[stable mantle]

why are some people using seaforium charge over house of cards?

[compact knot]

i feel like its less people are using it over house of cards, but more that people dont have it

[snow edge]

Yeh I'm not sure how you know they even have House of Cards..

[stable mantle]

nah, i dont know for sure, just wonering

wondering*

[snow edge]

Pacemaker is farmable, House of Cards is not; I'd say that's the most likely answer

[compact knot]

im pretty sure fury doesnt unequip house of cards once you get it

[young swan]

in m+ definitely

raid is a bit diff

[compact knot]

st maybe

yeah

think you would use myth pacemaker over hero hoc in m+ possibly

(given you have a equally good other trinket)

[young swan]

prob just use both

[sinful spoke]

thats what i do

[whole yacht]

erhgeqrhgqwerthqerthqerthqerthqerhqergh

thanks for coming to my TEDtalk

[dapper goblet]

goober swordish shouldnt be allowed to purchase a bis item from a boss he didnt suffer on

[teal badge]

Can someone explain how Myth track helmet is simming as a downgrade to hero track helmet

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pq2NnJ25bNetyYPk94bFVa

i'm losing my mind

[dapper goblet]

1 socket in the neck and no gems it looks like

[teal badge]

derp

thank you!

[sullen dove]

w helpful xeos

skyhold paragon of virtue

can we get a yellow on this guy

[dapper goblet]

flame blizzard too much to be yellow

[sudden tusk]

xeosh for green

[sinful spoke]

dont mention fyralath to him

[dapper goblet]

so true

@foggy thicket

[sinful spoke]

cheche for yellow

[gilded prism]

do i need a special macro for charge to have enough rage for a rampage on pull?

when i precast reck/avatar and charge i dont have enough for rampage

[vague sierra]

you need 1 auto with precast and charge

[thorny zenith]

Does having an aug in your raid improve your parse or is it calculated separately

[vague sierra]

it takes the dps it is providing you out of the calculation

[sullen dove]

gatekeep loot for effort btw

[sinful spoke]

He saw my message

[sage ridge]

So blizzard is really just going to let Fury be this ass for the whole season

[sullen dove]

yes

good enough in raid means get shafted in m+

[dapper goblet]

good enough in raid...

2 op broken specs unkillable leap execute rally shockwave stormbolt piercing howl

[oblique trail]

I piercing howled on bandit, gotta slow those bombs down

Invaluable utility

[slim coral]

ok but can the spec be playable in m+ please

raids over I wanna do keys as fury

[sinful spoke]

[slim coral]

Xeox knows I'm right

fury being locked to 5 targets is dogshit

[dapper goblet]

arms is good in m+

[smoky vale]

hi xeos

[earnest canyon]

Hi gio

[sullen dove]

copege

[sudden tusk]

3.4 obtained

freak status activate

[sinful spoke]

Not 3.5 lol

Madox more like washedox

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crying-cat-cat-meme-cat-crying-meme-crying-cat-meme-gif-1182720488497099882

[dapper goblet]

madox more like carriedbysoapox

[sinful spoke]

Xeos more like “i played mage” guy

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/uh-wtf-gif-18188575

[sudden tusk]

i feel like xeos wants the blue class to suffer as much as we do

though im not sure if it comes close to yajis hatred of warlocks

[clever belfry]

liar

[sudden tusk]

man

[exotic rose]

Are we still supposed to rock the skippers citrine in our circlet???

[sullen dove]

no

[exotic rose]

Which one do we rock instead?

[sullen dove]

idk windsinger maybe its called

whatever buffs your stat

[clever belfry]

skippers can start coming out ahead again at higher ilvls

best to sim both 👍

[worn gyro]

is this trinket bait for m+ or actually good?

[drowsy heron]

i heard its not that great for M+ cause its hard to keep the buff up consistantly

[iron portal]

its not great but if you dont have anything else , its w/e

its not even that good for majority of fights in raid (compared to other trinkets) unless you prog and you spend enough time in fight

[fading sky]

Horrid m+ in practice. In theory if u can keep pulls rollin with no downtime good

[runic violet]

Finally +12 resil achieved

now I need +13 😮 scaredc

[remote bobcat]

Not good in m+, not useless tho

its just kinda below avg

[worn gyro]

lol fair, i have funhouse and energy drink so prob stick with them

[remote bobcat]

they are significantly better lol

in m+, at least

[viscid oxide]

on the wowhead page, is there any reason why Best in slots is Bis in mainhand and not the offhand

[sand crest]

no, the only thing that matters for main hand vs offhand is ilvl

bis page has two 678 weapons iirc so it doesnt matter

[remote bobcat]

the higher weapon damage weapon should always be worn in the mainhand

if you're running best in slots and a crafted weapon, then best in slots mythic will have more weapon damage

if it's hero track best in slots, with a crafted weapon, equip the hero track weapon in your offhand

[worn gyro]

yeah 100% lol i did have signet and funhouse, energy drink better. fuck double on use

[wraith wharf]

trinkets this season man, seen 2 mythic trinkets in vault, have a couple of heroic trinkets from delves and mythic+, not a single one has really beaten my champion level funhouse and energy drunk. Well one did but it was only by 7k on single target

other than direct upgrades (obviously) there are only 3-4 trinkets that will beat out my champion ones at least of heroic level, possibly mythic too, 2-3 of them are from raid.

[dense elbow]

For m+, you could consider the crafted one, alchy stone. It is decent AoE value

[wraith wharf]

true, i forgot about that one

[fading sky]

Did u consider gettin lens in hc v?😅

[wraith wharf]

it no want to drop

[wooden wraith]

Guys this might be a stupid question, but i really like the aesthetic of SMF and was wondering how much worse it is compared to TG? I can't find anything about it anywhere else so i thought i would ask here instead. If it is by any means playable what is the suggested build- if anyone knows?. I'm sorry if im not supposed to ask the question here. Have a great day yall and thanks in advance.

[hardy bluff]

This is the correct place to ask questions

Smf is alot worse but if you really want to play it then go for it

Not sure what point you would drop for the talent tho

[clever belfry]

in cleave its kinda hard tbh

in ST u just drop a deft

[remote bobcat]

smf is not competitive with dual wielding 2handers, it's playable though. If you care about damage numbers, don't do it. If you're just playing the game to game, go ahead

[wooden wraith]

Thank you guys for answering quick ! i will give it a go. Feel like fury just needs some changes overall tbh, feels outdated at this point. Can't find myself playing anything else tho 😦

[lost saffron]

@clever belfry @warm crag @mossy fox @oblique trail @gleaming siren Hosen check

[gleaming siren]

Hosen unequipped

[warm crag]

No hosen

[clever belfry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1294680138042183711/1358901241375359179/Battle.net_J86KgwOoYA.gif

[iron portal]

I love this

[oblique trail]

[clever belfry]

ABUSER

[dense elbow]

I made it

[oblique trail]

Aballser

[undone flower]

Finally you got recognized bc of your smell

[dense elbow]

like roses, right?

[undone flower]

Balls

[dense elbow]

[flat river]

if i rename myself to galastronk im 100% sure people will also know its me

and will decline me

[eternal sundial]

This is not a good thing

[fair thistle]

yeah definetely DONT rename bru

[gleaming siren]

That depends (sometimes)

[eternal sundial]

holy shit its banezi skyhold

[gleaming siren]

Holy moly real Banezi

(Cant catch Banezi ingame anymore)

[fading sky]

Fury feels very good. Its dmg is just shit, esp slayer is a lot of fun to play

In m+ that is

[supple laurel]

How can I sim a crafted ring - do I have to have it in my inv or can I somehow do it without getting it made

want to check if it increases my DPS significantly before actually making it

[sly slate]

you can add it in this field at the top of the top gear in radibots

[supple laurel]

ohhh sick. thank you man

[dense elbow]

[remote bobcat]

my worldview has been shattered

[iron portal]

Crit is playing true endgame

[sand crest]

critcake looks like he could still be in highschool tho

thats crazy

[hollow elk]

it was funny watching people get on the stream and constantly go " omg is that your gf crit "

[fair thistle]

ngl he does seem like 20 & 40 at the same time

idk how to explain it

[flat river]

now that u say it

xD

[tranquil dust]

Guys anyone can explain me why is my character dungeon slice simms going for Versatility over Mastery on multiple item slots? Especially neck, belt and cloak

[flat river]

dont do dungeon slice

[tranquil dust]

Why not? I've done it since it came out, is it wrong when simming for M+? Dont tell me I've been doing this all wrong for all this time 🥲

[flat river]

for MT you sim 5 targets

patchwork

[dense elbow]

Its fine, Fury does 0 dam either way you sim it for m+

[tranquil dust]

🥲

Pressing the injury are we

Like it doenst hurt enough already

[tranquil dust]

Now real talk is it really? Whats the difference between dung slice and patchwerk 5?

[dense elbow]

Now remember, sims are just a tool to find an answer to a question. If you want to double down on prio dam, sim 1t 5m, if you want a good grasp of your sustained AoE do a 5t 5m. Dung slice is alright if you just want a benchmark to base decissions on, problem I have no clue what question doing so will answer - other than in this made up scenario you do X or Y.

[flat river]

patchwork 5 targets is the way to go

i dont know who told me that

[dense elbow]

He asked for the difference between the two, Gala

answer the lad

You got the spotlight now

[flat river]

i dont know

but what i know is

you always sim patchwork 5 targets

[dense elbow]

Well, at least you are honest. Patchwerk sims are no movement, slap training dummies, simulation. DungSlice is a made up scenario with some ST, some MT and other bells and whistles - it does an attempt to pretend to be in a dung enviroment, for what that is worth.

If you want information from your sims, 1t or 5t, sims will be easier to base an decision on.

"How do I gear to kill boss faster?" 1t, 5min
"How do I gear to kill trash faster?" 5t, 5min
Now Fury is basically all prio dam either way, so ST just got more value to minmax - as you dont bring Fury to kill trash. Minmaxing 200k more overall from AoE, would not be worth the loss of 100k ST. As that 100k gained is cowered by the other guys in the group either way. While the 100k ST gain would help prob up the others, making your overall look weaker, but theirs stronger (as boss dies faster, and they get to do trash clear DPS again).

It is a question of what value you want to bring, what you prio and what you prefer. Nothing wrong wanting to minmax AoE for more overall numbers, even if it less group efficent, if you find that to be more fun gameplay wise

[tranquil dust]

I must say, this was an extremelly comprehensive guide mate

Thank you for the commitment ❤️

[dense elbow]

[tranquil dust]

But now Im confused, you made me think I should simm for ST 5min everytime, like I was building for ST even on M+ runs

Thats not exactly what you meant is it? Cuz if it is, you are not the first one saying that this season

[dense elbow]

Basically what I say you should ask yourself if you should prio it

It is an decission you should make, based on your playstyle and wants

Personally? I go prio dam focus, as our AoE is dogwater either way. So when I checked my gear, I weighted ST dam over the minor loss/gain on AoE

As for me, completing my job in the key, is to kill the bosses and lieutenants. Not to clear the mole labourers

[tranquil dust]

It does make sense theorically but top fury M+ players keep building for AOE for some reason

Maybe we are overcomplicating this

[dark elbow]

Try pressing the buttons harder

[dense elbow]

Not that complicated, you simply ask yourself what you want to weight. After you done so, you sim with that goal in mind.

The only takeaway I want you to have from this, is when you do a sim - remember you are asking the robot a question to answer a question. You are the arbiter of the value of that information for your gameplay. It isn't as easy as 'always follow X" if your question sometimes is about Y.

[tranquil dust]

Thank you, I will actually run some simms and see where it leads my thought so I can actually understand this

[tranquil dust]

Yes this I can understand

If you dont make the right question first, we wont get the right answer

[dense elbow]

There ya go. The right mindset to have, now just have fun with it, then do some keys and pump

[tranquil dust]

Thank you ❤️

[full valve]

i like rocks mmmmm rocks

[gleaming siren]

gg I got scrollup trolled by discord again

dogshit app

[fading sky]

Just sim st

Is the short answer

[gleaming siren]

Dungeon Slice is a single target encounter with lust, then a small pack of mobs (think like 3?) for a while, then a larger pack (6 ish) for a while, then small, then large, etc. until the 6 min duration is reached

it tries to emulate a part of a dungeon

But it also generally needs some special considerations in the APL to work well

[past pivot]

From Raidbots itself

[gleaming siren]

Dungeon Slice was kinda made for Rogues back in the day iirc

To allow restealthing

In the sim

[tranquil dust]

It does make sense, however a dungeon isnt exactly patchwek (no movement)

[celest sierra]

So my 645 ili Unholy Dk can pull 40M easily in a 11 cinderbrew first pull but my 671 full bis fury- 2 items barely hits 20M on the opening pull. Someone explain that to me or am I just bad at fury

[hardy bluff]

yea and your dk cant use spell reflect

different classes do different things

[celest sierra]

Yeh what ? I’m just bad at fury ? Or is class tuning just that atrocious

[tranquil dust]

Also, Fury capped at 5 targets mate

Its perfectly normal

[fading sky]

Also fury is awesome

For being fury

[tranquil dust]

Still I stay with fury 😄

[fading sky]

Uhdk is shit

[celest sierra]

Okay well then I’m glad I’m not bad at fury lmao and it’s just the class tuning

[fading sky]

Fake dmg

Its meta vs not meta

[tranquil dust]

Also 20M on openning pull as Fury is really good I believe

[fading sky]

Im guessin thats hight cds

[tranquil dust]

Im BIS-ish 670 and I dont think I can pull that off

[fading sky]

Coz u arent ending at that at all

No way

[tranquil dust]

Yeah not ending, he said reaches that much

[celest sierra]

It didn’t sustain compared to my dk who dropped down to about 25M after the first pull. My warrior dropped down to about 10M overall or 9ish after

[tranquil dust]

Yeah yeah, still I dont think I can peak 20M

But 9ish at end I can pull 😛

[fading sky]

Y

So pullxdependant though

And all

But dk when blood beast pops

Peaks

[celest sierra]

U would think tho that it would sustain being 671 or be the end result compared to a 645 rat dk who ended at around 25M

[fading sky]

Nah

U csn also get no bloodbeast as dk

Thats me exp in 11s

[celest sierra]

I did a 10 priory I had 123 blood beast hits

[hardy bluff]

dk is alot better in keys

[celest sierra]

Shit was insane lmao

[fading sky]

All about having bad grp and luck

But ye dk even frost is also way better

[celest sierra]

That’s why I’m gearing up this unholy to push title . I almost got title as a fury warrior in season 3 DF I was off by like 50 io. But it was a struggle getting into groups (pugged it all) but now even my rat dk feels like almost insta invite even tho it’s low keys rn compared to my warrior

[fading sky]

I mean that sucks. U could go arms

[celest sierra]

I’ve tried arms I just don’t like it brother . It’s not fun to me . Ima keep tryna to get title as a fury warrior it’s bound to happen eventually . I just love and enjoy fury so much compared to arms which I can’t stand

[remote bobcat]

what about arms dont you like? :o

[fading sky]

Demolish arms is fub

Slayer fury is fun

Thane fury is meh

[celest sierra]

I dunno the way it plays , it’s rotation etc and that it’s less survivable compared to fury. Like as fury I do not die in keys or raids unless it’s a wipe or sometimes to dumb dumb . But yeh fury is just so sustainable compared to arms etc . I dunno maybe cause I havnt given arms a proper test run to get to used to it

[flat river]

arms only fun in execute phase

[remote bobcat]

From personal experience, I felt fury was very fluid in its playstyle while arms felt awfully clunky and weird to play. Certainly less clunky. The reality is that i did not understand arms well enough to where my focus shifted while playing the game. Once a general understanding and muscle memory has been built, you no longer focus on the "clunky" aspects of arms and it actually ends up being fun to play - although i still prefer fury tbh

[fading sky]

Demo arms is fun all yhe time

[fading sky]

Yeah. Arms is still clunky. Tbh remove col dmg

[remote bobcat]

colossus arms when ring of peace / typhoon / other knockbacks

Deadge

[fading sky]

Armses reliance on that makes it clunky

I love big cleave

But it will always feel clunky

[marble pilot]

Only time I ever dropped fury was for gladiator. I just dont like dps windows.

[full valve]

as an enjoyer of both, with preference on arms... both got a diff playstyle to it and thats what makes it fresh to swap between each other... i do feel fury is more monky playstyle but i tend to feel u overwork for no results lol

[marble pilot]

I havnt tried arms in forever though. Maybe its fine and I should learn it. I just enjoy fury

[fading sky]

hmm ill be honest

in raid arms is shit

feels wise

dmg is fine though

[full valve]

all classes got dps windows wym

[marble pilot]

Sorry buff/debuff management. Like bleeds/dots. Or things like tigers fury. And I feel like colossal smash falls into that. Or at least used to

You could argue fury has enrage but it is at 100% be default if you are just clickign buttons

[full valve]

same with arms except rend

rend u do have to upkeep

[fading sky]

well in m+

its more ngl

col stacks and shit as well

though u can just send em with 2 ops and be decently fine

[marble pilot]

Yeah I said it could be fine now. Back when I played arms last though it was. Do nothing till Colossus smash. Then do stupid insane burst. Then back to nothing.

[fading sky]

nono

arms is also pretty flat dmg profile

😛

cds ofc are cds

but like its not to bad

not more than fury without cds eitheri guess

[marble pilot]

Its been since MoP since ive last gave it a serious try. So a lot has probably changed lol

[fading sky]

haha yes

to me Peak is still Shadowlands arms

but ppl prob disagree big time 😛

i liked how we worked with our borrowed powers and shit

[full valve]

[fading sky]

more the other 2

but ok 😄

[full valve]

spear we still have, banner i cant say

[fading sky]

i enjoyed the Nightfae and banner

well also U had bladestorm for aoe scenarios

[full valve]

im monky so i see big red ability named "Condemn"

https://tenor.com/view/neuron-activation-neuron-gif-1455356329209493514

[marble pilot]

Looks like roughly the same number of buttons for arms/fury. Maybe ill try it. I just enjoy fury though so I doubt ill change

[full valve]

I mean i kinda wanted to play fury but since im mostly pugging and playing "high" keys i cant play fury without getting called terrorist

so i gotta arm it out

[marble pilot]

Dont think ive ever been called one.

Though I mostly run with guildies not pugs

[gilded pawn]

It got relegated to slam replacement half way through the first patch

[full valve]

u got the cheatcode

[marble pilot]

Yo I gotta try BM hunter wtf is that rotation

Its 5 steps lol

[full valve]

they shoudlve made it 100% hp dmg

but can only use it once then u have to swap covenant

[full valve]

the tutorial class

[marble pilot]

I do call outs fairly often so simple is good. Can do full dps while calling. Generally fine at it with fury. Though BM might be a bit too boring. Maybe for an alt

Pets are annoying and cant swap to prot for queue times though. Hard to find a good alt. Currently its MW monk cause thats just melee dps with a couple extra steps

[full valve]

yeah i was not being despective against it being tutorial class, is designed for begginers and raid leaders

[fading sky]

Call outs as melee rough

[marble pilot]

Oh not main ones. Just a couple mechanics here and there.

[fading sky]

Ah y

[marble pilot]

I dont have the time or drive to actually raid lead anymore I did my time

[rustic surge]

we pretty much want to take seaforium over eye of kezan in mythic plus right? cause it falls off?

[full valve]

yessir

[celest sierra]

Yeh eye of Kezan is horrible for M+

And honestly I’m starting to see it as less viable in M raid also . Especially on the earlier bosses my guild and I have killed . We nuke them down so I don’t even think it’s worth using them . Takes too long to get to 20 stacks

Imo

[whole yacht]

this is a factual statement

if the fight does not last more than 5 minutes

eye is worse than at least 4 other trinkets

[full valve]

seforium is dopamine injector

[prime bane]

Ok so probably won't be a popular opinion here but fury and bm hunter, not a whole lot of difference going on, play them both lol. If anything, less likely to pull a random mob due to a wandering summoned pet from call of the wild

[static rock]

So, for mythic+ in general, are we stilling doing 1T for 5mins, or has something changed?

[iron portal]

1T?

[static rock]

Ok, so I just simmed for 1T and 5T, both for 5 minutes, is there a reason that seaforium is getting beat on both sims? I thought we loved that?
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pcRizHSYGwAFa4rHodfrvx
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hn4zkc3e3wUmRKo78C3AcF

[celest sierra]

is a 678 ring better then Circit ?

[static rock]

I did some sims of a crafted 675 ring and a 665 jastor diamond ring, it beat circlet out by I think 10k, but I would sim to make sure for your yourself

[edgy widget]

you're comparing same ilevel; mechano and energy drink drop off because they're limited to hero-track, while seaforium/etc can continue on through Myth

[static rock]

so unless I get a myth track of it, mechano and energy drink are better then?

[fickle cedar]

what do you mean its probably the 2nd best, best if less than 5 mins (passive)

[chilly fractal]

672 Mechano core and 672 Energy Drinks

[fading sky]

For m+ we mainly cry

[fickle cedar]

oh thought you meant everything at max

[edgy widget]

it's pretty close to best in M+

alongside HoC

energy drink and mechano can't go to the same ilvl

so no, it beats them

per ilvl is irrelevant

empty drinking horn would be bis per ilvl if it wasn't capped 5 expansions ago

you're retreading ground from 10m ago

[fading sky]

I mean 1 should be set at hc

[edgy widget]

and there's no such thing as "bis per ilvl"

we know drink and mechao are better at 658, that was established long before you wandered into the conversation and hasn't changed since you got here

but they're not "bis" - they are beaten because they aren't eventually available at the same ilevel

I don't know how to make that any more plainly clear

[fading sky]

Wtb mythic track delve trinkets!

[edgy widget]

not sure if you're aware of this, but I answered that question 10m before you showed up

see attached screenshot

[fading sky]

R.i p

[gilded pawn]

Original message was deleted

[full valve]

damn i missed the execution

[edgy widget]

imagine arguing over "BiS pEr iLvL" lul

[static rock]

All i was asking was about if I was doing something wrong in sims, and that if Seaforium would normally beat out those delve trinkets, all at 665, sorry if I seemed like a parrot repeating things, I wanted to be sure so I wouldn't waste my time trying for Hero Mechano

[edgy widget]

yes, as was already stated, mechano and energy drink drop off because they're limited to hero-track, while seaforium/etc can continue on through Myth

[iron portal]

Damn i missed it

[edgy widget]

if you want to know if something else is better at a different item level, you can sim that yourself the exact same way you just did

[fading sky]

I need to find some old item thats op and call em bis per ilcl

Old pantsnwith 3 sockets

[full valve]

drest agath

[gilded pawn]

Overwhelming power crystal from sl

[edgy widget]

empty drinking horn lol

[gilded pawn]

Puzzle box

What else

[edgy widget]

Old Warrior Soul

[gilded pawn]

Sheesh

[fading sky]

Ows!!!

[edgy widget]

maybe not post-nerf? idk

[full valve]

skulkin wing

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Pantheon trinkets

[chilly fractal]

Can we get a 684 Ilvl Old Warrior Soul plz

[fading sky]

Jailor weapon

[edgy widget]

cursed

[fading sky]

I miss jailor gamba

[full valve]

might of menethi

[dense elbow]

Convergence of Fates

[full valve]

l

[edgy widget]

Thok's Tail Tip

[fading sky]

[chilly fractal]

With the damage amp right?

Hell yea

[gilded pawn]

Speaking of bis per ilevel

I’m glad wow doesn’t make you learn 4 rotations like in ff

Having to know a different rotation for each level

[fading sky]

Ill wear em, and when my dmg suck ill go. But im bis per ilvl

[edgy widget]

Final Fantasy's system of downleveling you while doing older content is such a massive L

[gilded pawn]

Imagine having to maintain 3-4 apls

[edgy widget]

not only that, but go to a low enough dungeon and you literally have one or two buttons

[gilded pawn]

Instead of just having the dev multiply a number

[fading sky]

I mean f r do ppl care in ff

[edgy widget]

to a point, it comes up periodically

[earnest canyon]

The best thing about FF is it's shit, so you don't need to worry about it

[full valve]

real

not to mention the ancient technology used that forces the netcode to handle 2.6 sec of gcd and basing the gameplay around adding a shit ton of ogcds to compensate

so in lower lvls where theres no ogcds u are waiting a year between each skill

[fading sky]

2.6sec?_?

My god

[atomic yarrow]

So fury is so deaaad we talk about ff14 now? XD

[chilly fractal]

It’s dead, Jim

[full valve]

what u talking about this is the monk server we are talking about windwalker

[deft vessel]

what’s the soft cap for mastery for us? i’m rocking 50% buffed and can easily make it 60ish% and i wanna know if it’s worth it or not

[fervent yoke]

Im life long warrior brain how hard is unholy to play in keys?

[dense elbow]

That is a question for the robot, go to raidbots.com and sim yourself and your gear

[dense elbow]

depends on your brains ability to adjust, try it out. It is basically just another melee spec

[deft vessel]

quick sim or would droptimiser be better?

[dense elbow]

Top gear, sim your gear options. Sim drop optimizer if you want to find upgrades. Quicksim is to see your current gear to send to friends for fun

[deft vessel]

thank

[atomic yarrow]

Oh ye my bad im just a blind warrior main xd

[fair thistle]

DO I HAVE TO RENT MY CORPSE TO BE TAKEN IN 16S OR WHAT

fuck pug man

ain't no way i level myself the floodgate 14 in pug to get it into 16

[hardy bluff]

its not meant to be pugged man

just get some friends and play

[fair thistle]

I DONT HAVE FRIENDS

they all play clair obscur