ccheck the logs the night before we killed
#fury
smoky vale
sullen dove
was funny tho enhance was ripping into ele
which i mean based
saying ele should be like the one doing a ton of dmg to them
smoky vale
saying ele should be like the one doing a ton of dmg to them
its true...
sullen dove
and ours can only chain lightning the boss
smoky vale
why arent the boomkin and ele oneshotting the guys for us
covert blaze
tell the boomkin to press starfall more
covert blaze
did you get lobbed
sullen dove
lole
smoky vale
no i raid in 2
sullen dove
insta lobbed
smoky vale
insta lobbed
insta chuckk
sullen dove
ccheck the logs the night before we killed
u do not want this checked
smoky vale
sullen dove
beat by a mw on kill :ICANT:
sullen dove
😮
smoky vale
every first set when we chain wipe
bro consistently i was getting it in 1 or 2
then we explode
because half our guild is handless
sullen dove
smoky vale
i said it
covert blaze
because half our guild is handless
ill send this to your gm
smoky vale
w
covert blaze
yeah pull bandit 500 times spongie
sullen dove
bandit gonna be easy when dragindeez gonna have to step in
smoky vale
real
sullen dove
its literally not even hard just everything hurts more and ppl gonna die to raid aoe
like 1 extra mechanic
- having to do all the coin combos
smoky vale
i mean wats going to kill the chuds is greeding coin uptime
warm crag
yeah pull bandit 500 times spongie
i am not famed
sullen dove
beamge
covert blaze
i am not famed
bugged + owned + rolled
warm crag
+noober
smoky vale
beamge
also wtf is that expression
why is it only when the boss hp is < 60
like
???????????????
sullen dove
what
smoky vale
sullen dove
big scrap master master
smoky vale
also doesnt help that i have to hold all of my cooldowns
sullen dove
those guys are funny
smoky vale
so im legit afk
sullen dove
just like 1shot ppl
big recycle energy
8 hour maintenance tmrw when nothings being added 
nice
smoky vale
smoky vale
actually let me use chatgpt to see this
sullen dove
with no words explaining what they are
smoky vale
debuffs rolling rubbish
smoky vale
prob not the best way of looking at it
covert blaze
sullen dove
ballshd
smoky vale
Here’s the summed data in a list format similar to the images you provided, sorted by count in descending order:
drakloak: 295
celicaxx: 77
doonberry: 58
jordini: 57
deprack: 57
kalan: 57
kittia: 56
aldasoltz: 54
kezma: 54
adveshan: 53
ironpali: 52
slapsz: 52
mawynn: 51
swordish: 50
ironlockedin: 49
trip: 48
dracstaa: 42
nilzao: 39
bobsalamdi: 24
rengar: 19
forbiddenpp/thickpp: 16
hoeless: 39
rushdogk: 5
zolshee: 3
lIKE WWHAT
EGURTSEHJASDHFAS
@sullen dove
royal copper
2 days left…
silk wharf
Is there anyway to check, without an addon, if I have redeemed my delve map this week?
rose fog
iirc, the map will be removed from the potential rewards list on the pop up when you are about to enter a delve. Once you have looted the hidden trove that spawns from the map.
silk wharf
Ah, I can't say I have ever paid attention to the potential rewards. I shall check.
Ty
silk wharf
iirc, the map will be removed from the potential rewards list on the pop up when...
You are right! ty again.
modest condor
no
thorny zenith
For stix its worth holding cds for first set of adds right? Or do we send on pull
sudden tusk
on pull then add set after the crash down
of thane can send on pull another reck rav
then full set for that like 1:40ish ads
thorny zenith
Okay ty
modest condor
all 20 of em?
slim coral
Idk how many there were
modest condor
only 1 known guild
slim coral
I did hear one guild spent 82 mil on one
chilly fractal
82 million… you know they didn’t start with that price
So I wonder what negotiations were like
keen forum
I DID IT 
sage ridge
What crit % do you guys use BT at? 85%? I was using it following stacks of Blood Craze but it seems that isn't how I should be doing it
vague sierra
I send it at 85% and then it doesn't crit so i have to wait until 100%
alpine onyx
What crit % do you guys use BT at? 85%? I was using it following stacks of Blood...
just go with the feelings!
inner zinc
so im guessing even with the buff to wrecking throw, it wont be worth it to get it for the rookery?
sullen dove
I mean it’s prolly like the most worth it there than anywhere in the game
random raptor
I am losing faith in any class tuning that benefits us
sullen dove
nowhere else do u like reliably hit it on a constant shield existing
inner zinc
so if its not worth using in rookery with a 500% buff, its not worth using anywhere. Thats crazy
sullen dove
I mean like you can use it on gally and stuff
inner zinc
sorry, meant more within M+ atm
sullen dove
Like u maybe lose some survivability talents but u can prolly get it without losing dmg
yea I mean eh
just not a lot of absorb shields don’t think
maybe like that one xalatath affix u gotta kill the clone if you want during those weeks I guess
smoky vale
Like u maybe lose some survivability talents but u can prolly get it without los...
re you having fun in strath
sullen dove
I was sleep
thick fossil
Here’s the summed data in a list format similar to the images you provided, sort...
How am I not on that list? I'm always posting gifs. lol
flat river
so if its not worth using in rookery with a 500% buff, its not worth using anywh...
use it on raszageth 
smoky vale
How am I not on that list? I'm always posting gifs. lol
this is ballson stidx
cobalt kernel
more gif
rancid heron
where the FUCK are the fury buffs
its been too long
blizzard help!!!!
does anyone know when the next balance changes even are?
sly crane
you mean the next warrior nerf?
worn yoke
We currently get nothing in the 0.5 patch and doubt we will get anything in the future 0.7. They seem to like one of their most played specs doing slightly more damage than augvoker in keys. Just reroll ret like everyone else.
vague sierra
I just unsubbed. 🤷♂️ My gametime will run out after CE so, whatev's. If they're gonna make my class useless why play.
fiery edge
deep sapphire
So is Frenzied Enrage a lot better than Powerful Enrage now? See the top Warriors using it.
modest condor
no
foggy pine
guys do you use the same talent for all keys?
deep sapphire
@modest condor Is it just close and whatever you prefer to run then?
modest condor
you just use whatever sims higher
modest condor
guys do you use the same talent for all keys?
most of the time yeah
tepid cedar
guys do you use the same talent for all keys?
really nothing else to run unless u dont care about max dps and want to jsut have fun
spear and champions might isa fun to run
left perch
hello skyhold
buoyant hatch
did MT get a bit of a nerf, i felt like i was doing signifincantly less damage than last week
steel magnet
when are you guys droping cyrces
summer quail
when are you guys droping cyrces
never
summer quail
do you like playing unholy or do you like how OP it is?
static rock
about how much of your damage should be from tb and lightning strike?
smoky vale
its pretty fun tbh
i press 2 buttons
and im top damage
there is some minmax as well
covert blaze
there is some minmax as well
infliction is fun
charred fiber
for m+ is fury the way to go, or is arms? I feel i do fairly similarly on both, on dummies, but in application, what feels right?
modest condor
arms
velvet obsidian
We're fury warriors, C tier is basically our designated domain.
fiery edge
i'm dying
orchid dagger
man no buffs
You haven't learned the first rule of Brown Class yet
orchid dagger
"brown" class <:critcake:984549832511344640>
It's our class color. And how they treat us lmao
pale zephyr
just failed a mechagon 13, were those realistic expectations? (ele)
tepid cedar
just failed a mechagon 13, were those realistic expectations? (ele)
That’s someone that doesn’t know what the fuck they are talking about don’t listen to them
fiery edge
don't let em consoom you
velvet obsidian
Shaman is clearly wearing clown shoes wtf. Imagine being a target capped class getting out DPSd overall by an uncapped class, clearly your fault for not picking a better class.
tepid cedar
Shaman is clearly wearing clown shoes wtf. Imagine being a target capped class g...
lol we about get out dpsed in prior damage too what you meannnn
😂😂. It’s a sad sad fury life, atleast we all feel sorrow together 😂😂
velvet obsidian
lol we about get out dpsed in prior damage too what you meannnn
Must have phrased it poorly, I am joking about how ele shaman thinks fury should do more overall damage. Ele should gap fury by a mile in the current balance state.
sour frigate
just failed a mechagon 13, were those realistic expectations? (ele)
let blue man flex
left perch
i like playing uh
It’s unfortunately fun huh
static rock
so, what would be good CBM details damage, cause I just hit 3.7M on a 10, no idea how good it is cause i usually don't care for aoe
celest sierra
Guys , did you see the fury buffs blizzard that posted ? ??!!!
dense fulcrum
imagine playing arms
left perch
fury buffed??
dense fulcrum
ye we went from c tier to d tier
left perch
holy shit is it viable in keys again
celest sierra
fury buffed??
Yessssirrrr we went from Lowercase C tier to Uppercase D tier
Honestly , just bring back DF S3 tier set 👀👀😂😂
celest sierra
Ahhh signet , what a time it was to be a Fury warrior
next jacinth
Still preferred legion legendaries
celest sierra
I’m curious , what would yall rank this tier set on a scale from 1-10
left perch
Poopoo stinky
fiery edge
Guys , did you see the fury buffs blizzard that posted ? ??!!!
ye dood, they made odin fury works exactly like cleave
clever path
arcane mage lowkey poppin off
they doing better than fire
which is amazing
considering fire has the mechagon bracers
blizzard will never let their posterchild class not be top 5 dps at all points
fiery edge
time to let em consoom you
dense fulcrum
most dk that reroll cuz of fotm are trash anyway, funny things is that they still do more dmg than a full tryhard fury in keys 
clever path
a blood dk does more damage than fury in keys
dense fulcrum
which says a lot
fiery edge
a blood dk does more damage than fury in keys
that's why dood insta left after the first pull
clever path
so when is blizz gonna remove target cap for our aoe
and give us a 30% across the board buff
fiery edge
next expac FOR SUUUURE
dense fulcrum
i will be happy for 8 target too lol
bitter palm
did i miss something
typical
dense fulcrum
but is so boring
bitter palm
warrior just falls off
clever path
dh fell off pretty hard too
fiery edge
tried other classes, ended up going back to warrior
clever path
and aff lock coming out of nowhere
i always knew they were mega underrated and sleeper op
radiant plank
just failed a mechagon 13, were those realistic expectations? (ele)
Ye you should smoke any ele in mechagon
burnt kelp
That's usually what happens when every class gets buffed except yours
random raptor
Waiting for some class tuning with fury warrior staying target capped but numbers increase significantly so I can absolutely PUMP 5 targets 
burnt kelp
My bad I think rogues didnt get buffs either
Thankfully blood dk blood beast got a massive nerf cuz you'd be behind the tank in m+ otherwise
Not like anyone plays Anything other than dh
stiff tinsel
Hows aff doing so well? Besides carnage. I thought their damage was on lower end. Their tab target a little dooky cause dot ramp. Or i guess they live longer on mythic. Good thing i was bout to dust off the aff lock anyways though
stoic loom
feels so nice to use every cd in a big pull and still be behind the tank after 50 seconds
sour frigate
sour frigate
feels so nice to use every cd in a big pull and still be behind the tank after 5...
Its funny that protpala can outdps some dds on big pulls tho
stoic loom
Its funny that protpala can outdps some dds on big pulls tho
that happens because prot pala can do big aoe tho
in this case its not the guardian druid doing particularly big dps, its the fury warrior being 35% dps under the other 2 dps
stoic loom
Its cool, at least he won on boss damage
wait...
nvm
completely gapped by the hunter on every boss
sour frigate
Wait ..
stoic loom
gapped by the rogue on first boss, barely keeping up on 2nd and 3rd
surely the prio damage tho...
sour frigate
Surely
hushed ocean
it's a shame that blizzard not doing anything...
arms is struggling
fury is struggling
prot isn't in a good place in tanks meta
sour frigate
Arms is kinda mediocre
full valve
Its funny that protpala can outdps some dds on big pulls tho
empyrian hammer busted
stone merlin
How terrible is war mode gear? I’m thinking of just getting war mode gear for my alts and not caring to get better
clever path
https://youtu.be/Ud8g_UGHBvc?t=448
why are they even bringing fury to mdi
are they trolling?
unholy boomie mage disc veng
boom
shrewd knoll
Thats their comp and its what they play in live servers. They are just having fun on tournament realm 😁
fading sky
Arms is kinda mediocre
ye arms is not Horrid its solid B its just fury is Swampass tier 😄
warm crag
ye arms is not Horrid its solid B its just fury is Swampass tier 😄
You have the tier list mind virus
@gleaming siren its terminal
fading sky
You have the tier list mind virus
its my own tier list
made by my brain
easy fix make Capital punisher and BIS overpowered when wielded as team and give us dinars
😉
when BIS is put in OFFhand it adds twice the stats
and makes meat cleaver hit 30% harder
Hear me out, what if, when we avatared we cleaved for 30% more so instead of 45%( isnt that what it is now) it would be 75%
then we are suddenly true slappers in cds
sage ridge
Easy fix is to increase the target cap because until then we are going to have a lot more seasons like this one
warm crag
easy fix make Capital punisher and BIS overpowered when wielded as team and give...
Im making it so you need to kill the m boss to upgrade it to m
gleaming siren
Im making it so you need to kill the m boss to upgrade it to m
That would be so based
clever belfry
im making it so every wow player is forced to log out
plush maple
You have the tier list mind virus
Spongie = S tier, S for Spongie
dense elbow
https://youtu.be/Ud8g_UGHBvc?t=448
I am honestly glad that he brings Fury to MDI, so the Devs got to notice the true state of things.
plush maple
I am honestly glad that he brings Fury to MDI, so the Devs got to notice the tru...
You underestimate their ability to turn a blind eye
burnt kelp
I really don't think devs care about m+ at all
dense elbow
I look at it like this: before it could just be ignorance and them misreading completion and popularity data.
Now they got to have one guy who looked at that and sees the actual performance
burnt kelp
it's a mini game like pvp
sour frigate
I am honestly glad that he brings Fury to MDI, so the Devs got to notice the tru...
Okay we got it. We aware of the current state fury warrior is therefore implementing:
Raging blow damage decreased by 10%
Vicious contempt talent additional damage is 12.5/25% (was 25/50%)
The changes focused on reducing fury warriors enormous single target performance
Also
Mage Arcane all damage increased by 3%
dense elbow
You forgot the 15% buff to OF, pretending that tiny buffs move the needle 
sour frigate
clever belfry
Nerf Rogue buff Warrior
brother the team was called buff warr nerf rogue
iron portal
They did 1 or two keys
burnt kelp
Nerf war buff rogue
flat river
Now that they did they will defo buff arms 💀
dense elbow
Clearly Fury warrior got secret tech held back so to win the finals and secure the prize. In truth we had the potential to outdo everyone else, all along.
flat river
Real
I'm not even joking i feel like the warrior dev doesn't main warrior
He mains mage
And plays warrior as an alt
full valve
"if they bring fury warr it must be good rn"
trail tendon
what item level do you guys think would be suitable for heroic raid?
dense elbow
They are managing to make players leave Fury tho... So yay
dense elbow
what item level do you guys think would be suitable for heroic raid?
This late? 666, full HC 6/6 gear with crafted 675 items, from m+ farm
trail tendon
This late? 666, full HC 6/6 gear with crafted 675 items, from m+ farm
yeah i got back into this season fairly late
right now im 648
dense elbow
Just do the 20-30 or so m12s, and you up there
You can massfarm 8s, if you can't get into 12s
Craft weapon, and have offhander be a HC item you then can free upgrade. Then make tier out of HC6/6 and, if you got more money than time, you can buy two mythic track items from the AH
trail tendon
ahh okay gotcha
deft vessel
This late? 666, full HC 6/6 gear with crafted 675 items, from m+ farm
don’t forget all 3 star enchants + mastery flask and potions and runes and mastery food
deft vessel
and embellishments on your crafted for extra crit/vers above 80% hp
oh and make sure your parses for normal are all 85% for ilvl or better of just stick to m+ /s
dense elbow
Bu presume he talking guild raid, so not needed
trail tendon
Okay we got it. We aware of the current state fury warrior is therefore implemen...
is this real?
dense elbow
If he talking PuG, I would say: none, just make your own group
dense elbow
is this real?
This a joke
trail tendon
ahhh
deft vessel
wouldn’t be shocked tho
dense elbow
We making fun that we see a problem with our AoE dam being weak. Blizz would see the same data, and say our ST is too strong
trail tendon
trueeeeeeeeeeee
sour frigate
trail tendon
TRUEEE
deft vessel
i wish running a t11 delve would give you more than just the base 649 piece of gear because outside of running the weekly 3 for guilded crests and maybe easy valorstone farm i’m finding them useless now a days
chrome plover
isn't that the point of delves though, they are additional content that can be done solo for up to heroic level rewards
once you're doing mythic level content you've outgrown delves
remote bobcat
dont you love it when a tank doesnt know how to keep himself alive yet plays with insane overconfidence pulling 2x drills in mechagon workshop
💯
wipes the group and insta leaves
💯
deft vessel
prot war indestructible i pull 3 drills
ivory ingot
deft vessel
jk only if i’m running a 7 or less
barren dagger
i wish running a t11 delve would give you more than just the base 649 piece of g...
Might be a hot take but i prefer it when mythic track gear takes slightly more effort
Same reason i’m glad that resilient keys start at 12
dense elbow
First time i havent filled vault for wayeor <:sadge:820202363359854633>
I gave up on my warrior weeks ago
No fun to be had
deft vessel
Might be a hot take but i prefer it when mythic track gear takes slightly more e...
i get that, and i’m not asking for it to be a 662 from just an eleven but like, a chance at a 658 piece from a t11 bountiful delve in your vault i think would make it worth while much more
dense elbow
I rather not have a world where mythic track delve stuff is gigaBiS and trapped behind the weekly vault.
I don't want to do delves, that content ain't for me
warm crag
Let's ignore that the AoE classes beat us or equal us on ST too
If you untalent OF you might actually beat someone on st
dense elbow
Wdum, I already beat most to all on ST
Me playing OF won't make those shitters play better
deft vessel
what’s OF real quick?
deft vessel
ohhh thank you goat
also that one specific talent shouldn’t make or break you st/boss dps
dense elbow
Ppl just meme me a lot, cause I like the ability and want it to be a DPS increase (a clear one), not a DPS decrease
You shouldn't take it in general, it will lose you some DPS on AoE and ST
tepid cedar
I rather not have a world where mythic track delve stuff is gigaBiS and trapped ...
We need a 678 mechanooooo lol
remote bobcat
Me playing OF won't make those shitters play better
you playing OF makes u worse tho
tepid cedar
We all know if we get a 678 mechano we will truly be a prio damage monster class
Right
Riggghhhttt
dense elbow
you playing OF makes u worse tho
Me playing slayer makes me worse, wdum
remote bobcat
We all know if we get a 678 mechano we will truly be a prio damage monster class
the item that doesnt exist ?
delve items are purposely overstatted cuz they intend to not make em myth track, if they released myth track of that
holy crap
the delve spam
dense elbow
Ppl out here calling me out, when I am talking Fury in general. Not my personal experiences
I am usually top DPS in my shitter keys on overall
Doesn't make Fury any stronger
tepid cedar
I am usually top DPS in my shitter keys on overall
Now that there is the archon addon I only recruit gray parses
dense elbow
You be surprised how shit ppl are
tepid cedar
That’s way I only get beat by 1 mill and not 5
flat river
Ppl out here calling me out, when I am talking Fury in general. Not my personal ...
Odyns fury needs to be fury signature
remote bobcat
Odyns fury needs to be fury signature
"it literally has fury in the name"
tepid cedar
me, im shit
wtf bro why is that gray axe class higher than your fury
remote bobcat
wtf bro why is that gray axe class higher than your fury
my sprocket was green i think so it reduced the avg by a lot
dense elbow
... That idea sucks
eternal sundial
I love meaningless filler cds
flat river
Bruh
dense elbow
I don't want to press OF more often
flat river
Odyns fury very fun button to press if it dealt dmg like last season
remote bobcat
i think odyns fury should be a double castable with like 3 sec in-between, first hit applying bleeds and second hit applying dmg based on bleeds or some shit
dense elbow
Please stop
remote bobcat
deft vessel
dense elbow
Why do ppl always try to overcomplicate a simple core principle that is core for fun:
Press button, do the damage
remote bobcat
I disagree
if theres too much upfront dmg like season 1 fury then we end up curbstomping every other spec in early season / low key which causes as much public outrage as it did
and then we got nerfed
crazy
remote bobcat
Listen man
flat river
and during m+ as well
That too
remote bobcat
theres a reason they took dmg away from cds n shit
and they gave dmg to our basic spells
dense elbow
Ppl who complain, are playing classes that already back then outdid our unnerfed burst on the beta
remote bobcat
they dont want us to click one button delete everything with low HP
dense elbow
They just don't know
flat river
and they gave dmg to our basic spells
That sucks
dense elbow
they dont want us to click one button delete everything with low HP
Say that to MM hunters
flat river
They also one-shot in pvp btw
remote bobcat
Say that to MM hunters
yea thats gettin changed
flat river
Then they buffed them
remote bobcat
for sure
eternal sundial
Mm plays better than fury
flat river
Fun is not allowed
Unless its mage or ret
eternal sundial
Because it has little bloat
remote bobcat
Unless its mage or ret
^
remote bobcat
lads im playing warr on OAB and i feel miserable
eternal sundial
lads im playing warr on OAB and i feel miserable
Become warlock
remote bobcat
did yall see OAB mythic stats?
flat river
Become warlock
Has "war" in name, checks out
remote bobcat
little escarp
Become warlock
worst xpac for warriors ever
flat river
worst xpac for warriors ever
Season*
plush maple
Odyns fury needs to be fury signature
Rampage intensifies
flat river
Last season was fun
remote bobcat
season 1 fury was in a rly good spot in raid at least
little escarp
and in raid who cares
flat river
Both
deft vessel
still better than arms #wemove
little escarp
give me SL version of warriors
spear was fun to use
aftershock was fun to use
condemn was fun to use
remote bobcat
spear was fun to use
brother what
eternal sundial
Damage
remote bobcat
what does Slayer arms do?
execute
little escarp
our execute isnt even great
little escarp
brother what
do u remember playing Mikanikos in keys with spear every 45 secs?
that was fun
eternal sundial
S2 DF was same thing
little escarp
why is spear on our talent tree if it has been shit for ages
remote bobcat
Isn’t OAB like the worst encounter though
wdym worst encounter
oh yea
for warrior
little escarp
S2 DF was same thing
DF xpac was good for warrios in general
remote bobcat
ye
eternal sundial
DF xpac was good for warrios in general
S1 arms
remote bobcat
i am on that boss and i feel miserable
eternal sundial
RA fury
little escarp
S1 arms<:critcake:984549832511344640>
yup
eternal sundial
S3 fury is also very split
little escarp
S3 fury is also very split
i didnt like s3 fury i played arms it was hella fun even in keys and it was strong
little escarp
S1 arms is one of the worst single target specs ive played in a while
it was decent at best
little escarp
but yeah like we had it good in SL imo and a lot of what we had was taken away
little escarp
the gameplay just sucked
it boggles my mind why Arms warriors don't have condemn, like we should be specialized with using execute for ST fights
fiery edge
we're gonna top dps next xpac, don't worry guys
radiant plank
Negative
clever belfry
wow let me press execute for even more of the fight so each press will be even less relevant
👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍
remote bobcat
id rather press a less relevant execute than slam 10 seconds into the opener because i didnt get a proc
little escarp
wow let me press execute for even more of the fight so each press will be even l...
how would execute be less relevant with condemn? did u actually play s1 of SL?
iron portal
oh boy
little escarp
I was wrecking bosses with it
remote bobcat
how would execute be less relevant with condemn? did u actually play s1 of SL?
you press more executes within the same time frame, therefore each press of execute hits less hard.
or balance is gone out the window
but assume same overall dps
clever belfry
cluegi
remote bobcat
execute gets nerfed
little escarp
id rather press execute than slam tbh
either way, it makes more sense to have in the slayer tree than this spinning shit
radiant plank
But Slayer is a bladestorm tree disguised as an execute tree
the point of the tree is to juice your BS
little escarp
like as an arms warrior in raid I dont even take BS anymore cuz its a dps loss in execute phase
remote bobcat
But Slayer is a bladestorm tree disguised as an execute tree
It's trying to be both without being either. Let's be real here. Bladestorm isnt even good.
Neither is execute.
radiant plank
Fury bladestorm is good
little escarp
Neither is execute.
exactly lol
remote bobcat
Fury bladestorm is good
yea cuz they shortened the duration (thank fuck they did lol)
Ravager isnt even far behind for fury
fiery edge
so....
little escarp
when i played fury in s1 i played ravager cuz of mountain thane
undone flower
Ravager isnt even far behind for fury
I think that’s why it’s a choice node, maybe I’m wrong tho
remote bobcat
bladestorm hero talent tree
ravager isnt far behind for fury
ravager is equal for arms
little escarp
>bladestorm hero talent tree
>ravager isnt far behind for fury
>ravager is equal...
on the contrary, you almost never play BS as arms
Ravager in keys as Colossus, and in raid as Slayer it's a dps loss to play BS during execute phase
gj devs
flat river
Who cares about arms
burnt kelp
I think it was the point of his message
the bladestorm hero talent tree isn't very... good
remote bobcat
yea
little escarp
Who cares about arms
sadly me cuz fury is too far behind in keys atm
remote bobcat
thats like the entire point im making
flat river
Ahhh
It's not that good tbf
Waiting on procs is mid
And the thing is with the procs
undone flower
Waiting on procs is mid
Proc of proc
flat river
There is one pull where u get a proc every sec
Another where you get a proc every 30 seconds
flat river
True
burnt kelp
you are still not a blood beast
flat river
REAL
undone flower
Aug
little escarp
our class just sucks no utility, no dmg
flat river
I like how they nerfed bloodbeast by decreasing dmg done by it from 25% to 20% and didn't cap it
undone flower
our class just sucks no utility, no dmg
*spec
burnt kelp
I wish slayer was good, I'd love to play a blademaster
flat river
I like how they nerfed bloodbeast by decreasing dmg done by it from 25% to 20% a...
Meanwhile odyns is capped on 5 targets both front damage and dot
undone flower
they both suck
Im enjoying my season with my shield tbf
burnt kelp
see, that's why blood beast is smarter than warriors
little escarp
Im enjoying my season with my shield tbf
oh prot warrior yes absolutely
burnt kelp
it's broken, but won't get capped because it doesn't steal the padding from mages
fury stole the padding from mages in the first tier
something you must never do
flat river
burnt kelp
never piss off mages, they develop the game
little escarp
never piss off mages, they develop the game
trueeee
undone flower
oh prot warrior yes absolutely
But I’ll see Wednesday if it is awful fury, I’m dps on bandit
little escarp
3 mage specs practically S tier lol
undone flower
is that why priest is always so good
No bc they give stamina buff
burnt kelp
I think I found the way to buff warrior
undone flower
- pi
burnt kelp
make battlecry give +3% spellpower, stackable with arcane intellect
the mages will love us
little escarp
I think I found the way to buff warrior
it's called unsubbing which is what i did. just gonna play until it runs out
flat river
I saw this post when i first opened reddit, i almost choked because im 90% sure devs are looking at reddit for ret+mage buffs
undone flower
make battlecry give +3% spellpower, stackable with arcane intellect
Yeah but stamina buff is required in some seasons bc stuff one shots you etc
burnt kelp
damn it
burnt kelp
I saw this post when i first opened reddit, i almost choked because im 90% sure ...
now that would be a nice talent for prot warrior
undone flower
not even close seasons ahh
burnt kelp
so you can finally go spear+shield
flat river
now that would be a nice talent for prot warrior
Prot + arms
radiant plank
smth smth glad stance
flat river
smth smth glad stance
Did u know before mountain thane, it was datamined that there were hero talents pertaining towards a gladiator stance hero talent tree. They removed it though because apparently there wasn't much to build on
burnt kelp
I mean yeah, the point of gladiator stance was piano gameplay 100 apm spamming heroic strike with shield charge window
burnt kelp
and heroic strike is never coming back so no point of having gladiator stance
flat river
Not even joking
burnt kelp
undone flower
Gaslight time ago or real long time ago
burnt kelp
also people would have bitched about needing to farm a 1 hander + shield on arms/fury
burnt kelp
aahhhh, stealing shields and bonus armor items from tanks as a dps
what a time to be alive
flat river
We have to spec into prot to farm shields
burnt kelp
it wasn't my fault, arms and fury were just so awful in wod
I just wanted a fun gameplay
flat river
But at the same time tank trinkets will drop 💀
haughty cloud
Is macro /startattack still recommended for melee classes? Haven’t been melee in a while but last time I was there was some sort of thought that /startattack on most of our melee abilities was important
chilly fractal
Man I think until Dragon Soul in Cata… and almost all of WoD I always found myself playing SMF just because my guild had ass luck with 2 handers and enough people needed them as is
I think actually by mid HFC I got a 2H for Arms
Too long ago
onyx hazel
would someone wanna help me try to figure out why i do bad dmg
idk if its a gear issue or a me issue
undone flower
Is macro /startattack still recommended for melee classes? Haven’t been melee in...
My random kick macro has a startattack idk why
/cast [@focus,exists,nodead,harm] Mind Freeze
/stopmacro [@focus,exists,nodead,harm]
/focus target
/cleartarget
/targetenemy
/cast Mind Freeze
/target focus
/clearfocus
/startattack
remote bobcat
Is macro /startattack still recommended for melee classes? Haven’t been melee in...
this is a retail server not classic server
oblique trail
/cast [@focus,exists,nodead,harm] Mind Freeze
/stopmacro [@focus,exists,nodead,h...
This is an overengineered focus kick macro that you'd see on a boss like Raszageth
undone flower
It is a random kick macro my friend gave me
oblique trail
There is no reason to have /startattack in your macro's anymore no
clever belfry
that macro isnt really for "random kick" its specific for rasza
undone flower
It kicks a random casting mob
burnt kelp
that macro scares me
clever belfry
that macro was specifically to target something close to you that is NOT the current target
undone flower
it wont necessarily kick something that is casting
Yeah if you are not in range, I kinda get what is the goal / it’´s to do a tab + kick basically
oblique trail
There's also just a normal focus kick macro that'd do the job infinitely better
oops I targeted the wrong mob nearby that wasn't casting anything
undone flower
But does it kick a random casting mob, so you press it when a bunch are casting
clever belfry
just get better
get a focus macro
and then use focus kick
dont rely on this garbage
undone flower
It is garbage I perfectly know
But I use it in pug / no coordination, kick early a cast so no ambiguity
The focus commands of the macro is to not do the tab kick if you have a focus if I get it
haughty cloud
Ty all
undone flower
Now that I read it more slowly, the 2 first lines is to kick your focus if you have one, then the rest is to focus your current target, tab kick, target your focus (current target) and clear it
flat river
I focus a target and if it casts i interrupt
I don't waste damage by switching targets
If an add is casting that i am not focusing ill shockwave
oblique trail
You are a terrorist and should be apprehended
flat river
And if no shockwave ill stormbolt and hope one of the 2 extra targets hits the add casting
undone flower
Tbh it’s what I do since as prot shockwave bumps so immune to stun DR
I shockwave the first set of casts, manual kick, someone in pug will mass stop and then I will mass kick because it will be synced
radiant plank
You are a terrorist and should be apprehended
Whats new
flat river
You are a terrorist and should be apprehended
undone flower
No immersive bladestorm L
flat river
I miss when we used to pull aggro if we bladestormed early because bladestorm dealt a lot of dmg ;-;
clever belfry
thats an odd thing to miss
u can just say "i wish bladestorm did more damage"
not "jeez i wish i died more"
flat river
Yes but you could wait a few seconds for tank to maintain aggro
And then pump
Algethar academy my beloved
Best dungeon in prepatch
slim pollen
I'm in om this one. It's a bit nostalgic looking back at shadowlands and the "ohh shit" moments as half the enemy bars goes red and you insta drop to 20%
Realy trained my defensive and heroic leap reflexes as well
tepid cedar
Who ready to log in today. And realized we are capped to3 targets and meatcleaver does 25% damage. #hiddenfurybuffs
pulsar quest
flat river
pulls last boss
sour frigate
@dense elbow ill damage same as fury soon
gleaming siren
And if no shockwave ill stormbolt and hope one of the 2 extra targets hits the a...
You absolute fucking criminal
stoic loom
Snap all the bosses to vexie on first whirlwind cast
then we can make use of our BIG Prio damage
and kill all the bosses at once
well, 5 of them at least
thick fossil
I can't afford artificial happiness, share whatever your smoking please.
bitter palm
I saw this post when i first opened reddit, i almost choked because im 90% sure ...
arms needs this
would go so hard with the weapons master fantasy
thick fossil
arms needs this
Holy shit is everyone high AF today?
sour frigate
High OF u mean
bitter palm
Holy shit is everyone high AF today?
colossus stance
flat river
You absolute fucking criminal
Dps loss though
bitter palm
both arms and prot can 2h+shield
would go so hard
make it no defensive benefit idc it would just look cool
big ahh sword and a big ah shield
thick fossil
Only good I can see from that is bad ass Spartan mogs.
gleaming siren
Dps loss though
wdym DPS loss
sour frigate
make it no defensive benefit idc it would just look cool
gives more stats still
sour frigate
sand crest
Can we all agree that if liberation of undermine was like nerubar in the design, flamshaper devoker wouldve gotten nerfed by now just like fury did last season
random raptor
Does 11.1.5 have anything interesting or some warrior buffs
sand crest
that spec presses one button, bursts 20m dps
sour frigate
Does 11.1.5 have anything interesting or some warrior buffs
All damage increased by 0%
sour frigate
that spec presses one button, bursts 20m dps
1? U literally need press 3 to setup an engulf
sand crest
literally one firestorm theyre already at 10m+ xD
sand crest
nah but I play with a freidn whos a devoker main, even he keeps telling me how silly it is
he says its almost bm hunter lvl of easy to play
sour frigate
bm isnt easy now either if u want to play optimal
sand crest
sure but I think bm remains the baseline example of easy to play in general
even if thats not currently the case
sour frigate
imo any spec where u should track something harder than fury by far
sand crest
with ret and fury following close
thick fossil
Can we all agree that if liberation of undermine was like nerubar in the design,...
Mage and Monk ad well. Whatever, the smaller nerfs are a smarter way of handling it. Just a funny biased reaction from Blizzard against Warrior to not un nerf us.
sand crest
mage and monk dont have close to the instant aoe burst devoker does, but yeah I know what u mean
thick fossil
Monk just needs cool downs available. Arcane has a little setup, if I remember correctly. Fire mage is just spam and combust.
sour frigate
dragon need setup too
thick fossil
Maybe I should try fire mage.
earnest canyon
Maybe I should try fire mage.
Mage is my oldest class, made it day one in 2004.....i dont like current fire mage cos you either do no damage if cds arent up, or melt everything.....and in a pug its hard to know what will be pulled
fading sky
U do kinda know almost same routes in gen
earnest canyon
yeah but u pop ur cds same as another guy, and things melt, and ur cd is still up for another 15secs or whatever
pseudo rampart
Hey hows fury in m+ atm? Ive been hearing a lot of different opinions
pale zephyr
Pugged my way up to 3k, i suppose finding groups are just going to get harder and harder at this point 🥲
radiant plank
or mouse over
flat river
dps loss
modest condor
it's ironic because interrupting isnt a dps loss but stunning is
thick fossil
Pugged my way up to 3k, i suppose finding groups are just going to get harder an...
Big grats!
I'm almost 3200 via PUG world. You just have to run your own key or wait in LFG for really really long times.
formal glacier
What raid item y'all getting first ? BIS ?
hardy bluff
What raid item y'all getting first ? BIS ?
dinars are not coming tomorrow
stoic loom
we'll probably see dinars in 2 months when they dont matter anymore
frank jolt
question: does Vicious Contempt apply to indirectly cleaved targets below 35% when main target is over 35% or is it based on the main target's HP?
formal glacier
Previously introduced in the Gallagio Loyalty Rewards Club, Counterfeit Dealer's Chip Counterfeit Dealer's Chips will be coming with Patch 11.1.5! Similar to Puzzling Cartel Chip Puzzling Cartel Chips and Antique Bronze Bullion Antique Bronze Bullions, Counterfeit Dealer's Chip Counterfeit Dealer's Chips will allow players to purchase desired gear available with the Liberation of Undermine Raid. Previously, this currency was available at Renown 17 and 19 within the Gallagio Loyalty Rewards Club. At this time, we are unsure if this method of acquisition will remain the same with Patch 11.1.5. Stay tuned!
it say it come with 11.1.5
gleaming siren
(it wont)
Not tomorrow
at the very last
maybe 2 months from now
or a month with Visions
who knows
remote bobcat
it say it come with 11.1.5
can u read?
or is this some elaborate conspiracy theory
hardy bluff
idk lots of people believe they come tomorrow
blizzard said it comes with 11.1.5
not everyone reads every wowhead article
cant blame them
pale zephyr
Big grats!
I'm almost 3200 via PUG world. You just have to run your own key or w...
I've noticed playing at obscure hours also helps 😅
formal glacier
I've noticed playing at obscure hours also helps 😅
True, i've reach 3.2k that way. Only moment i seem to get invite now is when no one playing the game anymore xd
Late in the night / Early in the morning
modest condor
blizzard has never said it comes with 11.1.5
they said more information comes with 11.1.5
formal glacier
''Counterfeit Dealer's Chip Counterfeit Dealer's Chips will be coming with Patch 11.1.5!''
yeah right.
modest condor
quoting a wowhead article is not the gotcha you think it is
hell, the same article literally says "to be announced"
if we go off of the old renown tree dinars wouldnt come for a while longer, they never intended for them to come earlier, they just didn't want it to be locked behind a high renown rank
light ermine
question: does Vicious Contempt apply to indirectly cleaved targets below 35% wh...
Good question, i want to know it too 🙂
sullen dove
question: does Vicious Contempt apply to indirectly cleaved targets below 35% wh...
Should depend on the hp of each mob being hit I think
don’t think it’s an all or nothing off the main target youre hitting
chrome plover
quoting a wowhead article is not the gotcha you think it is
everybody knows blizzard write wowhead articles themselves
jovial summit
Hey bois big question. Whats the enrage timer on gallly
lapis kelp
Hey bois big question. Whats the enrage timer on gallly
I believe the hard enrage is around 9:45
oblique trail
@frank jolt @sullen dove @light ermine Vicious makes a check on every target hit to see if its less than 35%, so it doesn't matter if your main target is 35% or not
smoky vale
https://tenor.com/view/car-garn47-gif-11512148920835024334
gm
tiny hare
fervent yoke
Wrecking throw buff, nice it’s just what we were all asking for..
iron portal
Now you can be mildly scary from range once in a while
still iron
Wrecking throw buff, nice it’s just what we were all asking for..
Wrecking throw buff is a slap in face lol 😂
edgy widget
Wrecking throw buff is a slap in face lol 😂
idk what the hell yall's problem is, I've been asking for a Wrecking Throw buff ever since Patch 11.1 hit the PTR 
edgy widget
the roar dot is uncapped...
well it's higher soft capped, it might be 8
fading sky
Spells made as a huge aoe. Now has no point
Isnt dot soft capped as well i swear some1 said that
sullen dove
8 cap no freaking way
edgy widget
na the initial hit is 3 or 5
radiant plank
edgy widget
you're never going to get it just raw uncapped though, that's a stupid ask
fading sky
Ye ofc
sullen dove
yea just other classes do anyway
fading sky
But man just make it gooder
sullen dove
edgy widget
damn near everything in the game is soft or hard capped at some number
fading sky
12
sullen dove
w animal farm
edgy widget
and Roar isn't even bad, so what are you bitching about? 
sullen dove
like 5% overall in m+
edgy widget
Spear on the other hand... 
edgy widget
like 5% overall in m+
5% for a couple talent points is actually really good
fading sky
and Roar isn't even bad, so what are you bitching about? <:dracthyr_crylaugh:100...
I want more roar ok
radiant plank
me when roar does less overall than my OP in a cinderbrew with double capstone + 2x BB + BLetting
sullen dove
more cowbell
fading sky
Big roar
edgy widget
expectations are skewed by things like Dreadnaught, that were hella imbalanced at one point for no apparent reason
radiant plank
Could use
another tune up (or make it do extra dam when hitting atleast 2-3 targets)
sullen dove
who would win, 1 thunderous roar or 1 pyre from a dev evoker
fading sky
Spear should just be 45 sec
radiant plank
30s spear
fading sky
Ye tbh
radiant plank
goes kaboom
edgy widget
At this point, I like the idea of Spear just becoming a non-damage utility ability
fading sky
At this point, I like the idea of Spear just becoming a non-damage utility abili...
It allready is?🤣
edgy widget
ofc the tree will have to rearranage though, cause people will shit and scream and cry over the idea of dropping 0.5% damage for it 
edgy widget
It allready is?🤣
na, spear still does competitive dam, at least for Fury
the main issue with spear falling out of favor is that burst windows have gotten longer
radiant plank
spear is the better capstone if it wasnt such a pain in the ass to get full value out of
edgy widget
Arms has never had much luck with it for that reason, Arms just doesn't have 5 seconds of strong burst - its spread out over 20s instead
Fury Spear + BS went hard though
sullen dove
fix odyns then spear is cool
me when redesign titans torment into the dogshit it is now and no of buff
fading sky
Spear into osyn into bladestorm
fading sky
me when redesign titans torment into the dogshit it is now and no of buff <:glad...
Keep in mind what they did to avatar capstones on arms
sullen dove
idk like nerfed reck or something
think the new blademaster better than the old one like extra sweeping can sorta be cool
fading sky
think the new blademaster better than the old one like extra sweeping can sorta ...
More fun, but weaker
sullen dove
prolly
fading sky
For slayer
edgy widget
like 5% overall in m+
this is cinderbrew, and when you add the extra damage to Rend & Deep Wounds, it's probably close to 9%
sullen dove
fading sky
Buff sks
edgy widget
granted, that's a strong environment for Roar, but still - the ability isn't complete dog or anything
fading sky
Also funny thing, dk basicly has sks now
sullen dove
Buff sks
even if it was the full bleed clear feel like that burst was just so fun sometimes
think maybe they could make it so its only 1 full app'd duration of each dot
and not like pandemicing it
fading sky
even if it was the full bleed clear feel like that burst was just so fun sometim...
Sorrow thingy is same
sullen dove
like "consumes up to 21 sec of rend" etc
sullen dove
so it doesnt feel as completely cringe to double apply a dot then immediately reapply after
edgy widget
Also funny thing, dk basicly has sks now
tbf we copied it from Rogue first
edgy widget
Just let ms apply dw before dmg calc
doesn't happen because MS needs to hit to apply DW
but also people just didn't like reapplying dots all the time
fading sky
but also people just didn't like reapplying dots all the time
I know. I liked it when it was prim used in m+
And in raid it was only an theoreticly upgrade so not playing it wasnt significant
edgy widget
my only issue with SkS is that some builds start to get a little button heavy
but I did, for the most part, enjoy it breaking up the otherwise kinda rote MS > OP > Slam gameplay
fading sky
Ye. Could work like dks? Some kind of proc or based on something so next.. lets say slam senda?
edgy widget
pushing EB and Battlelord also went a long way toward helping solve that too
fading sky
I do enjou esp collosus atm
Id still wish exe gave stacks again but prob a good reason not to
edgy widget
I get why, but it really is better this way
dense elbow
me when redesign titans torment into the dogshit it is now and no of buff <:glad...
OF did get a 15% buff to compensate, and OF is around 4-5% of your overall in m+, so it all good for the talent points invested 
By design we are supposed to be flat, if a single button that isn't spammable does more than 5%, we start to see spikes. DPS spikes as we all know could be perceived by the naked eye as 'big numbers' on screen and on the meters when they get big enough. So to avoid any chance of dopamine being released on the press, 5% is the mathematically sound choice to achieve "boring as fuck". Just as blizz intends it to be
trim quarry
why do i get only 79 rage from reck + ava + charge, i've been having this issue for like a week
oblique trail
why do i get only 79 rage from reck + ava + charge, i've been having this issue ...
Because you use Reck + Avatar before you're in combat
It instantly decays 1 rage by doing so
warm crag
why are you playing RA just play AM or
oblique trail
If you want to avoid it, just heroic throw pre-CDs so you force yourself into combat
coarse nest
Wait you know how to write!?!?
clever belfry
Wait you know how to write!?!?
my cat wrote that
oblique trail
anda meow
trim quarry
It instantly decays 1 rage by doing so
completely forgot about that mechanic, thanks
edgy widget
why do i get only 79 rage from reck + ava + charge, i've been having this issue ...
already answered, but it also doesn't really matter cause your first auto upon reaching the target will put you over 80
coarse nest
Maybe I’m too zoomer but that delay waiting for auto absolutely drives me nuts
I started heroic throwing myself lol
oblique trail
Waiting for it works until you end up missing because of dual wield penalty
earnest canyon
Waiting for it works until you end up missing because of dual wield penalty
Wait, you can miss in retail wow?
oblique trail
If you're a dual wielder yes
With auto attacks
It's also why we have the talent to make our auto attacks never miss while enraged
edgy widget
Waiting for it works until you end up missing because of dual wield penalty
that's why god (blizzard) gave you two hands
edgy widget
shouldn't be painful at all
oblique trail
My brain perceived not being able to rampage immediately as a bit painful
oblique trail
It's very much just a me thing
edgy widget
the only time it matters is if both melee just so happen to miss, which is pretty low odds
though it can happen on occasion
oblique trail
And not something that'd really affect anything at the end of the day, I don't think at least it ever ruined consistency on a fight like Rik nor Gally where you want Reck (and BS) back asap
edgy widget
I just throw out a bloodthirst if I can't Rampage immediately
I do think the super strict pull sequence is unnecessary; if it were up to me, Reck would just generate 50 rage baseline, rather than a perk of Reckless Abandon
let everyone have consistent openers
oblique trail
It was certainly a bit jarring after having played RA all of S1
edgy widget
Yeah it's one of those things where you wonder why it doesn't "just work" all the time
like what gameplay value is there to fucking with your opener unless you know to use these three abilities in a specific sequence, because any other order will brick it
left perch
but that’s what makes the game challenging and unique you have to get to use your brain more
edgy widget
there are better ways to add gameplay challenge than to introduce arbitrary tribal knowledge problems
e.g. no real reason that Reck -> Avatar -> Charge should give you 80 rage while Avatar -> Reck -> Charge should only give you 50
earnest canyon
If you're a dual wielder yes
Yeah I get that off hander white attacks can miss, but I thought all abilities and mh were 100%
oblique trail
Abilities yes, MH/OH no
earnest canyon
Hmm... OK thanks
left perch
there are better ways to add gameplay challenge than to introduce arbitrary trib...
yea i don't disagree 😉
edgy widget
It's also why we have the talent to make our auto attacks never miss while enrag...
fun fact, that talent does absolutely nothing on fights like Gallywix
oblique trail
Correct, but sadly you don't have much choice
At least they learnt from Ansurek and made a final boss that you have to stand in front of unable to parry or be missed
left perch
don't say the p word or you'll summon ppaww
indigo quarry
At least they learnt from Ansurek and made a final boss that you have to stand i...
thats why Halondrus was goated boss too
formal stump
Maintenance been going for a long time. they adding something new?
lapis kelp
Maintenance been going for a long time. they adding something new?
it's patch day
young swan
Maintenance been going for a long time. they adding something new?
yeah in like 4 weeks
dire vigil
Pre-pre-preparing the servers for those dinar vendors
left perch
dinars coming out today confirmed?
warm crag
dinars coming out today confirmed?
yes vhys my king
celest sierra
Maintaince is taking long today because of all the Fury buffs they implementing