#fury

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clever belfry
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silence gala57

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echo did sell World 4th gally

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that is a thing yea

radiant plank
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Noted

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Huoguo Hero bought out by echo

rocky hemlock
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is there somewhere i can see someone describe the fury warrior rotation because hoenslty im confused about bloodthirst alot

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i guess i mean video wise i should add

warm crag
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i will lose my skyhold streamer role if you continue exposing me like this

radiant plank
gleaming siren
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Okay stop only I can expose Spongie

hardy bluff
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the price was mega madeup btw

gleaming siren
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I know because I bought the lockout

hardy bluff
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lole

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🦈

full valve
sour cloak
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does best-in-slots use effect share cd with house of cards?

warm crag
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yes

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use hoc with avatar and bis on cd or align bis with recks

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make sure you dont press bis 20 seconds before your next avatar

gleaming siren
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@smoky vale steak was banger

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Good recommendation king

median marsh
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we are proggiing 5th boss,
i watched crit vid -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mgg-DPXZnOo&t=224s

he is mentioning that after bladestorm you can spam ragingblow until you dont have more to cast, and only then - rempage

(around 1 minute into the vid)

my question is - is that a big gain and should do it or is it ok to just do "normal" rotation?

5th boss down! I think this boss was great and fun to progress, though it was pretty easy as a melee DPS.
Log link: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/AQHqjWp6aZrzLdcy?fight=15&type=damage-done


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oblique trail
mossy fox
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wouldn't listen to that guy in the video

oblique trail
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However if you really cannot be arsed doing it, it's not the end of the world not following the conditional

median marsh
patent escarp
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yea i would say it miiight be a DPS increase kinda like trying to weave your 3-stacked executes into the rotation but again with this boss i'd say uptime is most important we could have a 100% DPS uptime and that would be ideal imo

oblique trail
patent escarp
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Rampage after blade storm with talent on top of te 5 stack buff from Raging blow would be a biiigest rampage ever

median marsh
oblique trail
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I can tell you this much, whether you follow the conditional or not to RB spam after every BS, is not going to be the difference between you killing the boss or not

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In theory you could ignore quite a few of the optimisations and still perform at 90-95% of Fury's potential

oblique trail
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Instead I just leaped into charge through 6 fire puddles and died

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And on kill pull I was hyper fixated on blasting more burst on adds and got beamed

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Unwinnable

mossy fox
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xd

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my bs only hit like half of the last adds

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next time i ask monk to rop them closer

gleaming siren
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Critcake noober?

mossy fox
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always was

gleaming siren
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My favourite part of Gallywix was getting Wrenched

oblique trail
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Yeah sorry I asked John Blizzard to close HoF after Sabo killed

radiant plank
patent escarp
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I wonder if they will ever bring back 10-man or change the Mythic lock-out system

clever belfry
thick fossil
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@sudden tusk Good video, should link it on the official forums. Might get some traction and Blizzard employee attention.

gleaming siren
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The video

clever belfry
gleaming siren
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the video

oblique trail
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The Balls.

earnest canyon
gleaming siren
mossy fox
oblique trail
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P1 is all Gally has going for it

mossy fox
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rest boring and drawn out

oblique trail
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P2 is just so underwhelming

earnest canyon
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why am i so fucking tired.....its a national holiday and I feel like im wearing lead weights

mossy fox
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i'm tired too

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idk why i didnt do anything tiring yesterday

hollow elk
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Ate my mothers home made pie in like 15 years. im happy

oblique trail
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Gallywix is pretty tiring

mossy fox
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other than 2 and a half hours of beat saber

thick fossil
warm crag
oblique trail
burnt kelp
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here's how to fix warrior : Look at all the spells other classes have stolen from us and take them back. Starting with : the entire ret paladin kit

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wake of ashes is colossus smash with in for the kill, warbreaker, anger management and the entire arms warrior kit baked in without sacrificing anything

undone flower
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Anger management is in almost every spec now

burnt kelp
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Bonus point for hammer of light being demolish without the self root, button bloat ( even if I hate those words ) and desynching problem since it transforms your wake of ashes button to hammer of light when usable (which demolish should do with colossus smash )

thick fossil
burnt kelp
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Bonus bonus point for anger managament no longer working on Avatar, which doesn't make it any less mandatory but creates even more desynch problems

thick fossil
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Ret Paladin shit? /spit

warm crag
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when did am work on avatar

undone flower
warm crag
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except cdr specs are not a fake interaction and it sucks for cd alignment for most fights

thick fossil
eternal lance
burnt kelp
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I remember it having a way shorter cd, maybe I'm smoking

radiant plank
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most specs that had their versions of AM just got that turned into a flat CDR node

burnt kelp
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or maybe mixing prot with fury

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but yes cdr is a fake stat

undone flower
thick fossil
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Pretty sure Avatar has always been a 90 second cool down. Tho I do remember one of our cool downs being 2-3 mins at one point. I think that was Death Wish though

burnt kelp
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or maybe it's the opposite and anger management used to not give cdr to bladestorm/ravager which would synch it with avatar

radiant plank
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Would be a baseline buff if AM just set reck + rava/bs to a flat 45s cd

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Rarely a situation where you get more CDR than that thru AM

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Also Avatar shouldnt even be a button on Arms or Fury

burnt kelp
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having a flat 45 cd on dark transformation 30 sec on wake of ashes make ret and unholy feel so much smoother than warrior

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(even better when you get forced downtime)

thick fossil
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Yeah, between GCD and rage spender cool downs. You're really knee-capped on being able to really throttle the cool down.

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I still find it annoying AF that Arms feels more ability cool down limited than rage limited. If I'm getting massive amounts of rage, let me send lots of MS and Cleave instead of having to hit slam.

burnt kelp
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I don't know, I don't mind slam as much as I used to

undone flower
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Imo fury just suffers insane from the AoE cap + cds do no damage

clever belfry
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Design stuck in legion where bosses had 1 mech

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šŸ‘

radiant plank
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Aberrus fury moment

clever belfry
burnt kelp
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I remember anthorus being hard...

radiant plank
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Antorus CE raider vs Heroic Oab

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who would win

burnt kelp
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maybe I'm just old and bad at the game

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time to roll ret paladin

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won't make me any better but people won't notice

clever belfry
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but its not 2018 anymore yknow

undone flower
burnt kelp
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you must know your enemy

undone flower
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Nah you just don’t like warrior rotation

burnt kelp
undone flower
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Just coping you are not, just switch it’s a game do whatever you want

burnt kelp
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I like arms in m+

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a little bit

burnt kelp
undone flower
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Who cares, my friend rerolled udk and got all 15s in 4 days

thick fossil
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Sad but true

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Guildie rerolled to DH and had all 15s within a week.

burnt kelp
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you convinced me

undone flower
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(For rerolls, spam few 6s bc you need some runed crests and then do 10s and take only your armor type)

burnt kelp
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got to 3k, time to play udk and double my damage

dense elbow
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sadge we lost another one

undone flower
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Don’t do the raid in pug, waste of time unless you perfectly know the group will clear in 1 hour

dense elbow
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Guess we are not so back anymore

burnt kelp
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let me fix it

dense elbow
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Can we fix it!

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(... no we cant ...)

woven valley
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I wish odyns fury was baseline and buffed, then they could make the talents for it just be dragon flight s3 tier

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The dream

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I miss spinning more

dense elbow
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OF shouldn't be baseline, it should be what it is, but with maybe a solid 25% baseline buff, then another 100% raw damage buff in the nodes. Having us invest deeper for a great reward. Titanic could be a 110% buff, instead of current 10%, as an example. And they could make it a two noder, instead of choice node. So you can get TR and DB, then make DB affect something more single target related... like, making your autoattacks deal 500% more damage for 20 seconds, or something along those lines that wont affect AoE in any way.

I just want to press the button and get dopamine released gladge big dam, feel good

flat river
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real

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why ret have 30 second cd that deals big dmg

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but us 45 seconds that deals doodoo

woven valley
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I was mostly just saying we need a short cd that hits big like other classe. Our current flatline of damage just feels awful

dense elbow
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That would be bladestorm with AM, sadly it is tuned around ST and to be... flat.

woven valley
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Yeah well it feels like garbage especially in mplus

dense elbow
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Yep, it for sure does feel pretty bad atm. They totally missed on tuning it right. Now it is only "ok", if you play slayer, got it fully stacked and reap procs on all the BTs. Even then it is weak, but at least then you might notice a DPS increase.

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Could just be me imagining things tho. Cant say for sure I do more DPS.

thick fossil
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But Odyn's Fury is such a powerful signature ability!

hybrid raven
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well, i rerolled from 15 years warrior to dk in S1. since i was a little bored i geared up my warrior alittle. 664 in like 2-3 days with some help of guildies. Anyway, i have no idea why people keep playing warrior. It's total crap xD

woven valley
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I feel like they need to make lightning strikes happen during ravager or blade storm for more aoe burst. At least for thane. I dunno. We just need actual burst that can keep up.

iron portal
earnest canyon
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Blizzard seemingly cant

dense elbow
# iron portal We can

I gave up on that, when if you say "Fury is a tad weak" you get bombarded by reports and silenced by ppl who say "Fury is fine, look, you doing 20s!"

iron portal
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But nobody is doing 20s gladge

iron portal
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Well to be exact...nobody is timing 20s

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Yet

dense elbow
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SoonTM

radiant plank
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Dont check MDI time trials

chilly fractal
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Just tell people Fury is in Physical God Comp

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And then turn 360 degrees and walk away

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They’ll be too confused

frank dawn
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and they call us Invincible since no one can see us

sour frigate
undone flower
noble elm
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I don’t get the ā€œ<insert class> is fine! Look someone did a <insert arbitrary key level>ā€

Imagine you get a basket of jank ass ingredients like that show chopped. Just because some savant can turn it into a meal doesn’t mean the ingredients were fine

sterile dagger
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^

noble elm
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Fury is always getting shit baskets, we just got a lot of great chefs

woven valley
dense elbow
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That way it is a signature ability

patent escarp
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Well considering Odyn's Fury got bleed damage nerfed twice since Dragonflight, and they also nerfed our AoE target's maybe they can buff it's damage again; but again it was strong bac kin S3 & S4 Dragonflight and it's we mega nerfed multiple times, perhaps they can buff it again?

dense elbow
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Well, they could buff it 125%, and it would be in a decent spot

undone flower
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Maybe we don’t have the same brain on signature ability, like ashes on ret the other reroller dude mentioned before

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Signature in my brain = always have it on your build

patent escarp
dense elbow
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Problem is if you start trying to force it down on the flat-only ppl

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it will become a 10 sec CD, with low dam

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cause flat ppl always win

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Why?

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Because blizz hate fun

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and flat is boring

patent escarp
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when i use Odyn's Fury i have to give up Sweeping Strikes or Raging blow nodes, or give up execute nodes, all of which are a big part of the slayer build so useing Odyns Fury is kinda sad because it's only use is to drop the emessary rapily or it only shines in a 5-8+ target situation other wise it's not worth

undone flower
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I enjoyed S3 bfa bm but because corruptions. not because flat

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I agree flat is not fun

woven valley
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I enjoy a class that has its ups and downs, even if they aren’t hugely different, having number go up cause you use your cds right should be the bare minimum for class design

dense elbow
patent escarp
dense elbow
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ST would be nice for M+, if we actually was especially good at it

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Sadly, we aint

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AoE masters also do close to equal ST

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Would have to gimp them by 30-50% to make it "fair"

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Basically, when ya get to a boss, Fury is 70% of the group dam

undone flower
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Billions dots to manage on everyone, was hard-ish but rewarding

patent escarp
# dense elbow Basically, when ya get to a boss, Fury is 70% of the group dam

I have been part of keys where the other two DPS were AoE builds & I was the dedicated Single-target damage; they average 4+mill on trash packs ( i was like 2mill) but when it came to boss fights i was 2.2mill+ and they were each only 1.3-1.8 mill so like even then most AoE builds are almost as strong as a warrior anyways and we just lose HUGE damage on trash parts and it doesnt' really make it worth for bosses; unles you are okay with being the weekest link in group and always on bottom of charts for sake of group comp; but then we'd be on top for bosses

random raptor
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I think blizzard should just give us a 3rd sword, might help

undone flower
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for our third getikku next season ?

random raptor
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is that a pokemon?

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what's a getikku

oblique trail
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A rare pokemon

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It's a 2handed sword from Kings Rest in BFA

burnt kelp
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A very bad pokƩmon

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A pokemon you dont want to be in your mythic season

random raptor
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oh interesting, I didn't play back then

undone flower
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basically the bis was 2 getikku (the shiny rare pokemon in a time of 1 slot in weekly chest)

random raptor
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I think I'm done trying to push for the week, I don't know about you all but pugging without a group as fury feels like ruthless mode

burnt kelp
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Waiting an entire season to see getikku in your weekly chest

undone flower
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oh death, become my blade once more

random raptor
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I hit 3219, are you proud of me @oblique trail

undone flower
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idk which bfa dungeon will come back next season, i'm scared of Getikku being back or Shrine bc VOID

oblique trail
modest condor
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i never saw geti in chest all expansion

frank dawn
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yo same

modest condor
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i did get merektha's fang every single season except for the one where it got buffed by like 60% tho

random raptor
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The best part about starting wow so late, pretty much every new dungeon rotation is new content to me

patent escarp
random raptor
undone flower
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yeah it was more bc workshop was 3 times in m+ (it came back twice)

random raptor
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Small indie company blizzard

patent escarp
undone flower
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if you never saw the original, it is

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*and the original was at a time you had same 8-10 dungeons 0 tuning on them for 2+ years

patent escarp
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the originals were the Mists of Pandaria Challenge mode dungeons, then they released "mythic" dungeons because the end of MoP is when they invented "mythic" raids. and in my opinion every dungeon in the game should have a "mythic" level difficulty

warm crag
modest condor
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last 2 times it was raid only so...

random raptor
gleaming siren
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Dinar dn Spongie

burnt kelp
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Kezan for the dungeons where you can stay in combat the entire way

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Healer better not get oom

undone flower
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so none

burnt kelp
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Priory's uptime must be pretty high

undone flower
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maybe cinderbrew, can have value bc it will bet stacked for the bosses and deplete, stacking again during trahs

warm crag
dense elbow
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Geti'Ikku, Cut of Death ♄

burnt kelp
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Die getikku die

undone flower
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then you lose stacks after the first boss, just before another really important pull

burnt kelp
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First pull being the most important is true

thick fossil
burnt kelp
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But you shouldnt really lose stacks while waiting for the mini boss

thick fossil
burnt kelp
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Ffs stop summoning getikku

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Please

undone flower
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Fury tuning in S3 gonna be šŸ”„ i promise

thick fossil
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uh huh uh huh

undone flower
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tier set will give RB another modifier

burnt kelp
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An aoe modifier ?

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Rb hits all ennemies around

dense elbow
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RB now cleaves 50% of its damage,uncapped

burnt kelp
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(multiplied with meat cleaver)

dense elbow
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"OmhFUrySOGood AndFUn!"

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zzz

noble elm
burnt kelp
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Press Rb

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More RB

undone flower
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no just 20% damage more so you RB over rampage now

burnt kelp
patent escarp
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for dungeons i like to use the Improvised seaformium bomb + mechano-core amplifier or even the Mister Lock-N-Stalk for the haste but it's only value if you really try to push your Anger management so maybe use the other trinkets for the crit, the Eye of kezan trink i find more useful in a raid but not so useful in dungeon; from my experience

velvet obsidian
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RB now has a chance to increase execute crit damage by 25%. Chills

burnt kelp
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Rampage procs thunderclap on each hit

noble elm
burnt kelp
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Gif hurt my eyes

noble elm
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It makes me sad that the thunderclap animation is a stomp and not the warrior actually clapping

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You’re right gifs are terrible

patent escarp
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thunder clap is a vanilla ability from 04'

burnt kelp
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Thunderclap is an original gangsta

noble elm
burnt kelp
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Would be pretty silly to clap with your 2 2 handed weapons

patent escarp
burnt kelp
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Maybe with big bells

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But a hand clap would be a pretty nice monk ability

noble elm
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I don’t care I just wanna see my guy clap

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He’s happy

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And he knows it

fading sky
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With some LUCK we get a Rly impactfull Season 3 OF SET šŸ˜‰ like last season 3

woven valley
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It would have to increase odyns damage by like 400 percent and add more effects to even be worth using lol

pastel oak
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So what ur saying is that we might be šŸ”„ first week then nerfed to the ground as usual?

haughty quest
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!wa

earnest canyon
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!steve

clever belfry
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!balls

eternal sundial
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!sack

oblique trail
# clever belfry !balls

I've tried my best to make Saeldur implement this command on the priest discord, but he has refused to answer me

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I think this is negligence from his side as a moderator

clever belfry
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noober hard r

dense elbow
sour frigate
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69

dense elbow
whole yacht
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so like

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625 mm hunter. is my current alt gearing adventure

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tell my WHY

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625

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mm hunter

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can do 3m dps overall

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but fury struggles to hit 4m

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at 670

full valve
whole yacht
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we are best friends now

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but back on topic

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wtf is this

earnest canyon
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hunter has a gun

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you dont bring an axe to a gun fight

whole yacht
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oh okay

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valid

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sorry

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(ps: i dont have 4 set on the hunter yet)

full valve
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i always thought that blizzard class design teams, some, have a lovable leader who has a passion for its class and some want to get paid and move on

whole yacht
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possibly the case.

gleaming siren
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Or both

clever belfry
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i have

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pinged him

gleaming siren
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Ty

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I DM'd you the picture in case you hadn't seen it

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Very nice

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Also had ice cream after

chilly fractal
warm crag
gleaming siren
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Galastronk also ignored Toph's DMs

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Checks out

warm crag
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Interesting

south kayak
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I'm not playing warrior again unless fury aoe cap gets addressed

gleaming siren
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Goodbye

warm crag
south kayak
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I haven't been playing warrior since the start of this season

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This isn't a mad sudden post lol

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it's just what it is

smoky vale
south kayak
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Spongie have you been playing LE

smoky vale
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i made it into new madox video

south kayak
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Who are you

smoky vale
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the uh

warm crag
young swan
smoky vale
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xan do you need weeklies

south kayak
young swan
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yeah prob need 4 keys tonight

plush zephyr
young swan
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boss deadge but my gear is pretty behind cause i wasnt in for last 3

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  • missed a full reset
edgy widget
fading sky
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I still think of + roar nerfs reverted and we gucci

south kayak
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then the fight lasts longer than 10 seconds

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and you don't do anything

full valve
limber oar
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They would tune the numbers to keep dmg about the same unless they were specifically trying to buff dmg

south kayak
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Fury NEEDS help in M+

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like game breakingly so

full valve
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i mean is still better to hit every mob on a pull instead of just 5, tanks dont have to pull around u and can go for bigger pulls

south kayak
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everyone has uncapped damage to a degree

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we are completely locked to 5 target damage

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no one else has this

full valve
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but yeah if they uncap and then nerf then the dmg would be virtually same ish

south kayak
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in this day and age, that's a crime

full valve
south kayak
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we need buffs period

limber oar
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I was just saying that if they uncapped whirlwind effect but didnt want to change fury dmg for some reason theyd nerf the whirldwind effect dmg to keep numbers about the same

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I agree that fury needs help in m+ tho

south kayak
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I'd be ok with Whirlwind working like Blade Flurry at 8 targets

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but that'd be a bandaid for now

restive pine
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guys, am struggling with raidbots. my opener on prio dung is like 5-6mil with pot and lust. not sure if i need more versa maybe or crit

edgy widget
south kayak
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There's no point to play fury in m+ in my eyes if they're leaving meat cleaver at 5 targets

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it's that simple

fading sky
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There is

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If we did big dam

south kayak
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We do good damage but we're capped to 5 targets

whole yacht
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my 625 mm hunter does the same aoe burst as my 667 fury warrrior. at around 8-10m

south kayak
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that's the issue

restive pine
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we are getting auto declines atm lol

south kayak
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it's not the damage

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Why is everyone always falling back to if we did damage

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WE CAN'T DO DAMGE IF WE'RE CAPPED TO 5 TARGETS

fading sky
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If we did more

summer quail
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ofcourse we can do damage if we're capped to 5 targets. in other seasons fury has been very very good, was still capped

summer quail
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yeah in this season sure

south kayak
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We're not even exceptional in ToP

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what's the point?

full valve
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the friend we made along the way

summer quail
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it's just tuning innit, would be nice to get a small buff but i wouldn't hold my breath

restive pine
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It is not us box, it is ppl in general not wanting fury anymore. If you like m+ you struggle to do keys

whole yacht
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increase cap to 8

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and we compete again

restive pine
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maybe with corruption it will be fun again, just like in bfa

young swan
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lol

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the only thing that made corruption fun was how ridiculously "overtuned" it was

summer quail
lean crescent
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yo guys, anyone know if Charged claymore at 645 really is BiS?

restive pine
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at this stage any extra damage is acceptable man lol

young swan
lean crescent
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dont look at tyrinket lol

full valve
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we will be picking the "Get secondary stats" one and its gonna be boring as shit

lean crescent
young swan
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yes

summer quail
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yyou can yes. but with your gear i wouldn't

lean crescent
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how? lol

young swan
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it probably isnt better than even heroic bis

summer quail
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would be a waste

full valve
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if they make the other ones fun, ppl will complain is "borrowed power"

lean crescent
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yeah i wont change then

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i am not sure why all sites say it's BiS tough

summer quail
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also ngl i would have rather picked socket than that bee trinket ahahha

warm crag
south kayak
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I used to main it but not anymore

ember apex
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they're making me go arms for 1armbandit and mugzee

balmy shore
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am i late did we talk about the pre pull cd bug

iron portal
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Who even pops reck before pull

young swan
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not a bug kekW

iron portal
south kayak
iron portal
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god

young swan
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that is bricked

earnest canyon
young swan
balmy shore
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wdym don't we pop reck before charge so we get the rage or am i stupid

young swan
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oh yeah but now u just do that after combat is started

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so ur just like a second late to the boss or something

balmy shore
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yea but that seems lame

young swan
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yeah its really dumb

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mostly inconsequential

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but really dumb

balmy shore
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just annoying i think

gleaming siren
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Time to employ the @oblique trail tech

young swan
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yep

gleaming siren
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Heroic Throw -> Ava+reck+charge

balmy shore
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muscle memory going to mess me up for a bit

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100%

blazing ore
summer quail
gleaming siren
#

Banezi was just ahead of his time

young swan
gleaming siren
#

Well yea

odd pebble
#

organizing a protest in front of dornogal auction house at 4 PM EST today to force blizz to revert this change

gleaming siren
#

but Banezi was doing it on Lockenstock cause he's a noober

warm crag
#

stop prepulling you monkeys

oblique trail
odd pebble
#

my VDH tank pre-pulls every time because he doesn't know how long his sigil pop time is

gleaming siren
warm crag
oblique trail
#

Sucks to be me

gleaming siren
#

sometimes 1.5 seconds early, sometimes 1s early

warm crag
#

sucks to be baneziwarrior and PREPULL constantly?

#

i saw you get axed by fyrakk 20 times on prog and gallywix killed you 15 times with a melee

oblique trail
#

I did it when the pull counter hit 0

#

If 0 = prepull then sue me

summer quail
# south kayak lmfao

it's true tho. both fury and arms are at the bottom for one armed bandit. if you exclude the 2 survival parses that bring survival lower

balmy shore
#

how do u pull early as a warrior

#

😭

radiant plank
#

prepull reck

#

when u charge at 0

balmy shore
#

damn u guys have players that pull on time or what

oblique trail
#

Sorry I'm able to react to 0

#

when it appears on my monitor device

warm crag
#

0.9

oblique trail
#

this is a real website

balmy shore
#

we have ppl pull at 3 seconds left

#

like every pull

oblique trail
#

end their existence

young swan
#

are they orange class

plush maple
#

Nah you're supposed to see in big latters PULL on your screen then see your raid attack boss then you charge

summer quail
young swan
#

orange class notorious prepullers

chilly fractal
#

You all don’t play with Boomkins that pull early?

balmy shore
summer quail
#

i get angry when they pull at 1 second early. i can't imagine 3 seconds

#

i bet it's a boomie

balmy shore
#

our RL got a weakaura that say chats who pulls early now

#

because it got so bad

summer quail
#

yeah we have that as well, usually demonhunters mistiming sigils for us. but man never 3 seconds

#

that is insane

balmy shore
#

it's been our locks, shaman, boomkins

#

idk so many early pulls

#

actually one time i pulled early because i accidentally dropped my ravager (i was falling asleep)

edgy widget
# radiant plank when u charge at 0

this is absolutely a thing that happens, and yeah - with this change it means you will lose your Reck/Ava buffs (I tested it repeatedly on the PTR)

#

I try to make a point of not popping cds till after the boss is pulled, but I'm sure there will be an adjustment period

warm crag
oblique trail
#

true

warm crag
#

idk just charge after some ranged hit the boss man you dont gain anything from charging at 0.00 and hitting the boss 0.1s earlier than me

oblique trail
#

Curious I think my opener is what made me get Reck consistently on Gallywix when you struggled repeatedly and pleaded me to tell you my secrets in dms?

plush maple
edgy widget
#

No, it's too comprehensive to a be a bug

#

these are obviously purposeful changes to a select set of spells

plush maple
#

Fair enough, I'd assume more spells get added to the list

edgy widget
#

that said, it does feel like some producer had a great ideaā„¢ļø , and I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see a bluepost about it in the next few days

oblique trail
#

At least they'd make sure to fix our CDs not resetting on pull ends in a hidden change too right

#

Clueless

balmy shore
#

1:30 CD RESETS

#

PLEASE

#

TY

edgy widget
#

something something pvp idk

balmy shore
#

wah wahw wah

ember apex
summer quail
balmy shore
#

ww in the same boat too

young swan
summer quail
balmy shore
#

it depends on what your raid needs

ember apex
#

arms does more damage when the boss needs to die basically

young swan
#

ur not bringing fury for <30 damage

ember apex
#

when the fight is hard

young swan
#

ok but the fight is hard before that

#

ur bringing fury to deal with adds

#

not for boss damage

ember apex
#

we have plenty of aoe cleave

#

we need ST execute

young swan
#

then play arms or ask to be benched

balmy shore
#

then you play what's better for your raid

ember apex
#

im gonna be playing arms

balmy shore
#

idk

young swan
#

or get one of the cleavers to not play cleave

balmy shore
#

we play 1 fury 1 arms

ember apex
#

they're benching the 2nd warrior

balmy shore
#

but it doesn't really matter if i play fury or arms

half tide
#

@young swan noob

balmy shore
#

as long as ur not dead

#

dead dps zero dps

young swan
balmy shore
#

@young swan noob

half tide
#

Same

young swan
west parcel
#

Is warrior dead guys

young swan
#

then blizzard might pay attention

#

but alas

ember apex
#

its prob worth to recraft crit/haste from haste/mast i imagine right? esp since its 2 bosses

west parcel
#

Losing Reck on pull I would probably just run into a coin and get crushed or something

summer quail
#

you playing fury might mean the adds die faster, then other people do more st as well. idk i don't think spec matters that much on oab, play whichever you like more. they both suck on oab anyway

young swan
#

still one of the most played classes in the game

ember apex
half tide
#

You guys remember when rally was a cool raid CD, I remember

young swan
#

i didnt play SL so no

half tide
#

It was part of dragon flight too

balmy shore
#

best warrior ability is leap

young swan
#

spell reflect says hello

ember apex
#

i got a crazy parse on stix

#

hold on check this

balmy shore
dapper goblet
#

madox for yellow

west parcel
#

Best warrior ability is gladiator stance

summer quail
#

i think i like charge more than leap honestly

balmy shore
#

my guild has a soundboard talking about how much i love leap

celest anchor
young swan
summer quail
balmy shore
#

gamer gamer gamer gamer gamer gamer

celest anchor
#

unholy rng on sprocket...

#

not normally

ember apex
celest anchor
#

private cant link anything

ember apex
#

ok sick

south kayak
#

Rally should get the same treatment some raid cds did for dungeons

edgy widget
ember apex
#

yeah i saw u were fury on ur kills

#

i was checkin logs

edgy widget
#

so it just depends on what your group needs - if you need add dam or not

ember apex
#

my guild never needs add dam

edgy widget
#

if I hadn't died early to a tank move, I'd have cleared rank 1 overall (arms and fury) with room to spare

ember apex
#

the execute damage window difference is very large tho

balmy shore
#

oab šŸ¤ dying to tank movement

ember apex
#

and that's what they're looking at

edgy widget
#

So yeah, Fury is definitely competitive on the fight; just depends on what your group needs

hard hedge
#

I beg that pre pull change is a bug D:

glossy mirage
summer quail
edgy widget
# balmy shore oab šŸ¤ dying to tank movement

to be fair, we'd only been in P2 a single digit number of times, and the tanks were trying to conserve space + our ranged had a habit of dropping puddles directly behind us, so I don't blame them - it was just kind of a cluster

hard hedge
ember apex
#

whether its the drill placement, not running far enough w/ party pack etc...

edgy widget
#

tbf both fights are basically braindead for melee while ranged do all the mechanics lol

ember apex
#

nah nah they dont get a copout that easy

summer quail
balmy shore
#

playing melee dps is infinitely easier

#

we literally just exist

edgy widget
#

sec I got a clip somewhere

balmy shore
#

if you're dying as melee dps EVALUATE YOURSELF

#

dfiaoweifjaskdf

#

yeah the bad pylon drops are stinky they eat up so much room

edgy widget
ember apex
balmy shore
ember apex
#

go do 1 arm bandit as a BM hunter

balmy shore
thick fossil
#

@smoky vale Music time?

ember apex
#

blizz might as well hand u a margarita and a beach chair

balmy shore
#

(SL onward i am an SL baby)

ember apex
#

i also started in shadowlands

edgy widget
# edgy widget think this is is

so I circle around the pylon to the left - which should have never been there; the boss already should have been pulled beyond them, but our tanks were playing uber safe with trying to conserve room

then I circle back around and move too far in to melee, not anticipating the move (just literally not thinking about it, which is 100% my fault)

Then they move the boss without any warning, and I get gibbed

balmy shore
#

absolutely delulu to think melee has it harder

thick fossil
#

Will be streaming somne Synth Riders in General

south kayak
edgy widget
#

so it was a failure on a few levels, not really any one person's fault - just a little bit of first kill panic dracthyr_shrug

#

but man I was PUMPING

summer quail
edgy widget
#

still R2 though, and I got a Mythic Slots out of it, so not a whole lot to complain about dracthyr_kek_animated

balmy shore
#

that person didn't move where they were going with** the pool for a while too

ember apex
#

ranged is easier in raid, but harder in like running back from a death in mythic plus b/c of lack of mobility

south kayak
edgy widget
#

also not pictured is our warlock who died 2x in a row and ate all our battle rezzes right before that

or the three people who died immediately after me, also as a result of that uncommunicated move lol

quiet breach
#

on the second boss of priory (braunpyke) is it even worth it to even try to dps while the hammers are swirling around the boss or should I just get out and wait for tank to move him?

#

I feel like I keep getting hit by hammers and dying if I try but idk if its a skill issue

edgy widget
edgy widget
south kayak
#

am i blind?

edgy widget
#

that was me and the boss moving

south kayak
#

oh okay

edgy widget
#

there is a suck during the 2nd phase, just not right then

edgy widget
#

but it's all good, we learn and do better next time

balmy shore
thick fossil
#

Live in VC

balmy shore
#

there's no CD on what mechanics ranged can get in a row

#

so if you don't have the mobility or the defensives you're just gg

edgy widget
#

Yeah same thing on Mugz (for melee or ranged)

south kayak
balmy shore
#

stix is fake tho

edgy widget
#

I got picked for pool, line, frontal, and jail all one after another in the span of like 30s

balmy shore
#

sprocket is nice because there is a cd on what mechanics you can get so it doesn't feel as bad

#

but getting picked over and over is not fun

south kayak
#

I like the mugzee fight tbh, it has a lot pf personal responsibility

balmy shore
#

and like as melee or ranged it's the same thing

edgy widget
ember apex
edgy widget
#

that doesn't have anything to do with it lol

ember apex
#

during ansurek prog

balmy shore
#

sometimes some pulls just happens like that

#

lmfao

#

like???

ember apex
#

if i got circles twice in a row (2 pulls in a row)

#

i ask for a min, restart my game client

balmy shore
#

this is some feelycraft type of talk

ember apex
#

ok well just be like "guys give me 1 sec i keep getting mechanics, gonna relog"

#

that's what i do

balmy shore
#

i don't even play ranged i just know ranged has it harder

#

in raid*

#

talking about in raid

ember apex
#

ranged can play 1 handed by design 1 hand for game 1 hand for margarita

balmy shore
#

i just think the stereotype that warriors are on the floor needs to be changed some ppl out here dying for no reason when all you have to do is dodge and hit boss

ember apex
#

what is APM for dev evoker? like 45

#

u can play that with carpet tunnels

#

same with warlock

pallid tundra
#

i hate carpet tunnels

sullen dove
#

real shit

opal monolith
#

Have you guys seen the news

#

Check wowhead šŸ™‚

left perch
fickle cedar
smoky vale
#

yeah just do banezi moment

opal monolith
fickle cedar
#

i thought it was gonna be fury buffs i got excited for some reason

opal monolith
#

I'm deeply sorry

edgy widget
#

one of our healers was awed by the fact that I can face tank a coin on bandit and live (albiet with <10% health remaining) dracthyr_crylaugh

ornate gust
dense elbow
#

Hydrate k

sullen dove
#

warrior changes pogs

dapper goblet
#

warriors finally getting their op prepull shenanigans removed

sullen dove
#

+500k dps prepull rotation

#

(true)

willow cradle
#

Avatar still won't reset tho

tender pulsar
#

throw -> charge -> die with aggro

#

maybe new meta?

smoky vale
#

has been

tender pulsar
#

peepostudy I need to get with the times

sullen dove
modest condor
orchid dagger
#

It's the only saving grace the class has

#

Bloodthirst + Impending + perfect positioning = full healing after being a greedy fuck

modest condor
#

also we can do this in darkflame

thick fossil
robust widget
modest condor
#

second wind

#

doesnt break on the third boss

#

hardest healing check in the season? just bring 3 dps warriors, healer can take a nap

robust widget
#

damn

balmy shore
edgy widget
#

Sometimes, depends on the encounter

#

Cheat death goes a long way on a fight like tindral lol

sullen dove
#

free timer tho so who cares clueless

slim coral
#

Windwalker is pretty tanky right now too

smoky vale
flat river
#

bruhhh

#

now i gotta be careful on using cds

#

gg

forest owl
#

time to use cds like usual half the raid night and my raid wonders why my damage is so lowclueless

sour frigate
#

690 gear 9kk hp and low passive dr

flat river
#

funny how you see combustion doesnt get removed clueless

#

blizz fav class

fervent yoke
#

Fury is live lord

#

tanky asf

opal monolith
full valve
#

the correct way to play reckless abandon is overcap the shit outta rage during reck?

sour frigate
#

just send bb and cb

silk wharf
#

I can't wait for the flood of "I don't have anywhere near enough rage when I use cd's on pull" after tomorrow.

full valve
#

u just go full monky

twilit harbor
#

Quite a big change after it's been normal for so long

silk wharf
#

I'm coping that it's unintended.

#

because it's so radical from how it has been for the history of the game.

sullen dove
tepid cedar
keen forum
#

I'm billed through December and am gonna hang it up after M Gally dies anyway. But I felt this was a comical way to express my opinion.

south kayak
#

lmfao

silk wharf
south kayak
#

that's pretty funny

frank dawn
#

yeah I guess I don't get the rage lol. Are we not charging/reck once combat starts anyway, and part of that reason has been the resource reset that's been in the game for quite a while?

wanton mirage
#

in my raid one of the ranges always start the pull before timer reach full. so

frank dawn
#

real and tru tbh

#

they just trying to make sure no one owns themselves

wanton mirage
#

I aM jUsT pReCaStInG

coarse nest
#

Having to heroic throw before charge on pull is mighty cringe ngl

#

But its foolproof

dense elbow
#

Use taunt, negate traveltime of the projectile xan

coarse nest
sour frigate
#

and i mean about passive dr like fury has by just smashing and -20 for every mechanic

#

-20 + -10 from dstancd

alpine onyx
#

how is single target fury raid prio??

#

have seen lots of fury players casting BT often (casts=raging blow), is it right?

#

or just procking bt while bladestorm?

sour frigate
#

it might not be giga optimal but playable much

modest condor
flat river
#

real

modest condor
#

may as well jump off go again

flat river
#

i'd alt+f4 fr and say my game crashed and that we should wipe

frank dawn
#

we're going back to classic, don't hit any cooldowns until you see one sunder

sour frigate
silk wharf
#

That's my take too. Which I posted over in the arms channel. To those who know it exists it's little more than an annoyance that simply forces what was optimal play before.
To those who don't know or make a miniscule mistake, they lose everything.

dense elbow
#

Man, going back to my Fury, after playing MM ---- sucks.

#

I really hope buffs are inc and stat

south kayak
dense elbow
#

xeos nice

earnest canyon
full valve
#

bro its been like 20 min nobody wants to join my key critcake

#

5 more min and ill have to swap to arms

chilly fractal
#

the jury is out if there will be a Fated/Awakened season

flat river
#

i don't think there will be

#

cause they reusing dungeons

earnest canyon
#

Hmm... Maybe there will be a tuning pass then

sullen dove
#

they did that in df too

flat river
#

would be mid season if they released all the worst dungeons in season 4

sullen dove
#

they just said they probably wont do it again

#

cuz expansions gonna come out a little faster

flat river
#

wdym we got buffed

#

we're saved

sullen dove
#

so maybe 3 raid an expac cuz lazy and get ppl to spend 80 bucks an xpac every 1.5 years instead of every 2 years

sullen dove
#

do you think i know what he has

#

and im in school

flat river
#

guildmaster dming while he's drunk, again

#

šŸ’€

sullen dove
#

r u sure ur not getting uh... dream'd

#

or just random wow shit

earnest canyon
flat river
#

maybe

#

he did call me darling

#

xd

sullen dove
#

oh naw

#

abort

clever belfry
#

thoughts?

sullen dove
#

definitely a hall of fame deserving guild

smoky vale
#

@warm crag why did you buy carry

#

?

dense elbow
coarse nest
#

Bought the skip lockout!!

#

Holly Molly

clever belfry
#

this is my monk buddy

#

i played last 2 on my alt as healer

warm crag
coarse nest
#

Lolololol

#

Noober

sullen dove
clever belfry
sullen dove
#

andasimp

clever belfry
nimble kraken
#

What was the reasoning behind raid bosses clearing avatar and recklessness…?

sullen dove
coarse nest
#

Lack of intelligence

nimble kraken
#

Congrats you pressed it early instead of losing a second of uptime the whole buff is gone, screw you..?

clever belfry
#

holy moly look at this

#

funyn badge!

sullen dove
#

spoligh

#

mooligh

clever belfry
#

picture of me in the article

#

holy moly!

coarse nest
#

Washed up!

sullen dove
#

you will be insta doxxed

coarse nest
#

It says it right there!!

sullen dove
#

yo vitaminpee

#

baseg

clever belfry
#

šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

sullen dove
#

nice gato

#

very distinguished

clever belfry
#

this cat is fucking stupid

sullen dove
#

meow

clever belfry
#

(orange)

sullen dove
#

sanest orange ear

oblique trail
#

@clever belfry It is. Balls. O' Clock.

clever belfry
#

expose balls

coarse nest
oblique trail
#

:balls:

indigo arch
#

Wrecking throw got buffed, fury is saved!

clever belfry
#

mayhaps i resub to the limsa dressup game

#

but not until atleast thursday

oblique trail
#

You now have inf time to do the msq

coarse nest
#

RuneScape game is out btw

flat river
#

nah bro the guildmaster is sus

coarse nest
clever belfry
warm crag
flat river
#

my gm

#

he's messaging me while drunk

#

XD

clever belfry
#

ok and

compact siren
#

does he love you

#

and would you send a picture of your belly to tophwow?

flat river
clever belfry
#

is that illegal where u are from

oblique trail
#

haram

flat river
#

nah he send something worse šŸ’€

sullen dove
#

block perhaps

indigo arch
#

Tryna make you his habibti

compact siren
#

😳

flat river
#

can't rn im laughing my ass off

#

XD

sullen dove
clever belfry
#

those who meow

oblique trail
#

Anda Meow

clever belfry
#

Anda Meow (Bunnygirl)

sullen dove
#

banzei chomp

sinful spoke
#

Swordfish meow (cat girl)

sullen dove
#

tall elf man

#

dragon girl is cool tho

sage ridge
#

How can Fury be so ass and not receive a buff

#

This is actually confusing

#

I check every so often in hopes for a buff and they usually just buff good classes

clever belfry
marble pilot
#

So how many botched pulls wiping major cooldowns till blizz reverts the change? Or is it considered a bug right now?

oblique trail
#

For now presume it's gonna stay until they make a bluepost about it

#

A way to not risk losing your buffs is HC throw at 0 on pull counter -> use opener

marble pilot
#

Yeah Ill probably just delay the 1 gcd to make sure it gets tagged. Guild already has issues pulling on 0-2 fairly often lol

#

Weird how it isnt for everyone just like 5 classes

oblique trail
#

I don't know every single spec and their CDs, but pretty certain a portion of other specs already have their CDs reset on pull

marble pilot
#

Yeah I was just going off the wowhead list. Seems rogues got it worst

alpine onyx
#

Ʈs it worth it to use bt with fierce followtrough when it is below 60% critchance?

clever belfry
#

u ignore FF

alpine onyx
#

so just use it on 100ish crit chance

#

??

ember apex
#

what's this fucken reck change

#

who asked for this honestly

earnest canyon
#

It looks like a bug

warm crag
#

unless you habitually prepull

marble pilot
#

I understand not wanting to have like 10 second timers to stack buffs before pull. But a full clear is annoying. Ill have to see it in action but I imagine it being very annoying for some people

ember apex
warm crag
#

change only really matters for rogues i think idk

ember apex
#

why this change is so bad

warm crag
#

i didnt look at what changes for mages and rogues

#

but if this change genuinely affects you then you are pulling before others and deserve to be axed

ember apex
#

i dont pre-pull but my guild rDPS do

warm crag
#

okay then this changes nothing for you

covert blaze
#

lol

ember apex
#

lol?

#

if u dont pull on 0 and u see idk a wrath flying in early idk about u but i press my reck so i can charge when it hits

#

this change 100% affects me

sullen dove
#

maybe

#

Wait half a second

#

no freaking way

ember apex
#

id rather do that than fuck up my opener

warm crag
#

maybe just pull when the boss is in combat

ember apex
#

sry

warm crag
#

are you stupid

sullen dove
#

rhetorical

ember apex
#

yeah in an ideal world thats what would happen

sullen dove
#

Do heroic throw tech

ember apex
#

but my guild pulls early a lot

warm crag
#

okay then reck charge reactively to combat starting

ember apex
#

rdps get yelled at but it rotates who does it

warm crag
#

you should just never be the person that starts combat in general

covert blaze
#

falling for carlo bait in 2025

ember apex
#

if u wait until ur character is in combat to reck/charge to boss ur late

warm crag
#

you start with 79 rage if you're not in combat

ember apex
#

im not i dont pull early

warm crag
#

thats worse

ember apex
#

raid combat can start and it doesnt always insta put ur char in raid combat, early in sprocket prog there was 1 pull where i literally waited 2 sec before my char was in raid combat

#

its not consistent

sullen dove
#

heroic throw

ember apex
#

but what can be consistent is reck/charging boss

#

i might mix it in, but im gonna be arms for next 2 bosses

sullen dove
#

Then none of the above matters

ember apex
#

i think our best% on sprocket is like 3% it shouldve been dead last week honestly

sullen dove
#

Cuz arms doesn’t care about rage on pull

ember apex
#

yee and its also a bug and they gonna fix it for sure

sullen dove
#

you probably avatar after you hit boss anyway

warm crag
#

idk i literally never have the 79 rage problem and i reactively reck charge on raid combat start

smoky vale
earnest canyon
#

Rogue got screwed way worse, they get like 9 resets across all specs or some shit

smoky vale
#

i cant be prepull perry if i pull on time because the addon says so

ember apex
#

rogue 100% got screwed harder than us

full bison
#

just prepull with heroic throw then reck charge keks

warm crag
ember apex
ember apex
earnest canyon
#

No problem, it's monkeh

white rampart
#

do you guys think fury is better if i am switching targets constantly? i am talking specifically about mythic stix

smoky vale
#

it is more consistent than arms

warm crag
covert blaze
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then your tank needs to pull the boss to bombshells or

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or

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run out and hit then

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stupid ahhhh ranged players

sullen dove
white rampart
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yea range players are problematic for me, so i am required to assist them 😦

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(i gave up towards the end)

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ion think u did it at all lil dewdrop

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???

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me and enhance were chief sitting bombshell above 80% damagers

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thats just slander

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yeah guess who cant do damage if they are already below

sullen dove
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what

warm crag
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i cant do more if you press 2 tbs and do all the damage

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šŸ™‚

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unironically

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not bad times

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lot of thunderblast cluegi

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have like 2 a whole set

warm crag
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full focusing them 1 at a time

covert blaze
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gio afk or

warm crag
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you literally raid at 5 am my time get real

sullen dove
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get fake

smoky vale
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:c

warm crag
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swordish do you want to be pickled

smoky vale
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i was hitting them

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pickled

smoky vale
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i swear

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brined perhaps

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I SWear

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do not the rat