#fury

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dense elbow
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for that sweet 1.2%

gleaming siren
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What about if Meat Cleaver was removed and all abilities just hit every target in range always for 100% of damage?

warm crag
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i miss meat cleaver giving 2 stacks yknow

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the cadence with 4 ww charges is just off

undone flower
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Change war buff to be 3% crit

full valve
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uncap the aoe critcake

dense elbow
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If they do overload our kit something silly, we can lack dam and still be brought. Imagine:

  • Rampage also functions as a purge
  • Raging Blow is a soothe
  • Bloodthirst heal is groupwide and cleanses a bleed/poision or curse effect
  • Raging Blow cures a disease/poison or magic effect
  • We got CR
  • We got Heroism

Hey, we starting to look pickable. Just need...

  • Whirlwind knocks enemies up into the air
full valve
undone flower
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How raging blow soothe would work

dense elbow
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You slap em with real rage, to make them come back to their senses

undone flower
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Oh soothe enrage

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I thought priest soothe

dense elbow
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Sure, we got passive mindsoothe on all enemies within 80y, as we that initimating, part of inti shout and menance

undone flower
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You miss shroud in your list

dense elbow
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Nah, I fixed that

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look above

full valve
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also sigil of silence, just make it shout of silence

open prairie
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i mean all utility is cope

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its just damage that matters

dense elbow
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I mean, if we got all that

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we would be brought and be meta

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0 question about it

undone flower
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You still miss the main point, fury no magic damage so it doesn’t fit with dh and mage so L

full valve
dense elbow
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Well, we create a phyical meta - gotta be balanced after all clueless

open prairie
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vdh also just lives

undone flower
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Who are the spec in your god phys comp ?

open prairie
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and boomy damage is good

dense elbow
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Who cares, we got a 0.9sec AoE spammable knockup

modest condor
sour frigate
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booms

dense elbow
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Silm, we add that to the list, sure

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We also dam amp

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we are the aug now

undone flower
modest condor
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rallying cry is a permanent buff that stacks 10% hp every 30 seconds

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uncapped

dense elbow
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Dang, we made it actually overpowered, love to see it

hollow elk
dense elbow
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Not wrong

open prairie
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The only thing class utility buffs would do

undone flower
open prairie
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is make prot war meta

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which means no fury slot

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fyi

modest condor
sour frigate
hollow elk
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Make prot warrior not generate agro >

dense elbow
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Mich doesnt read, I said bloodlust is only for Fury, rest is class wide. So as heroism is alpha omega, you know Fury will be meta

open prairie
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What does bloodlust do

dense elbow
open prairie
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if you just do half the damage of mage

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or hunter

dense elbow
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Have you seen what we written up?

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smh

hollow elk
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Prot warrior with a lust would make sense. First lust tank

open prairie
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Yeah if you do tank dam

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dont matter

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look at aug

dense elbow
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Hell it matter, we can perma CC the dung

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And give group what a infintite HP buff

undone flower
open prairie
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who tf is playing aug rn

dense elbow
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Aug wont beat our ST tho, so we fine

open prairie
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fury isnt terrible in raid tbh

dense elbow
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Hurray?

undone flower
dense elbow
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We gone from "fury is great in raid" to "Fury is fine in raid" to "fury isnt terrible in raid"

open prairie
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idk utility just cope

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dam>all

dense elbow
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Not the copium version we cooked

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it is unbeatable

sour frigate
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it just happens specs with insane damage also has insane utility

dense elbow
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Real talk, ya you right

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back to: Heroism will solve everything!

hollow elk
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Sigh drops offhand into bag welp

sour frigate
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its only the beginning of a season and im desperate to reroll mage chatting

dense elbow
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MM hunter is fun gladge

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I dont feel like an affix

hollow elk
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Aren't we more mid season now

dense elbow
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We are a bit infront of the halfway mark, no?

hollow elk
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Yep

sour frigate
dense elbow
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On my warrior, sure

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B)

undone flower
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On my warrior, sure

dense elbow
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Meh, they just need to buff OF/BS and I am back on the Fury fun train

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Atm I am just annoyed being wetnoodle dam, with no fun moments

undone flower
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I prefer S1 no meta damage than S2 tank damage

dense elbow
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Hey, we wanted to be as powerful as Aug

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we got our monkeypaw wish

hollow elk
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You know what annoys me the most.

Watching others burn their CDs then go " okay next pack I got mine so I'm good " and then they do the same amount of DMG anyways

dense elbow
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Hydrate explosive shot proc is RNG, is RNG

undone flower
hollow elk
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Full then half then full

undone flower
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Oh it’s still ravager time in m+

sour frigate
hollow elk
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Depends on tank and others DMG and how long packs take.

dense elbow
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Also, Odyn's Fury is really efficent in a global! If you dont compare it to anything equal!

sour frigate
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10000 redheads

tepid cedar
undone flower
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Does a bm no cd build do more than fury cds ?

sour frigate
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yes

hollow elk
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Yep

dense elbow
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why you ask stupid questions?

sour frigate
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way more

modest condor
undone flower
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But they do more than 3mil bc they don’t play fury

sour frigate
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its sad how i expect to get boosted by busted specs and see this

dense elbow
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That looks like a pull size issue

sour frigate
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also they seem to type some stuff in chat a lot

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like "just kill mobs like humans"

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man u do 15% parses why u talk keks

dense elbow
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I would be angry too, when ppl pull 5-8 mobs, if I played UDK

sour frigate
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its not

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this was floodgate with bigger pulls

dense elbow
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Hydrate suuuuuuuuuuure

sour frigate
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clueless 💨

tepid cedar
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🤣

undone flower
sour frigate
sour frigate
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my cds never lined for dmg amp

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had almost 6kk in recent run

undone flower
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It was just to see, I tried a 14 couple weeks ago and constantly see adds not dead enrage on the boss

tepid cedar
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prolly cause ppl being stupid

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and not using cds on adds

undone flower
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After 5 min of fight the boss clapped me bc nothing left and I left the key

tepid cedar
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lots of these pugs save cd's for " damage phase"

sour frigate
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😎

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dunno i just zug

tepid cedar
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but bc they are riri's

undone flower
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I just zug the adds too

tepid cedar
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u have to

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if not yuour throwing

undone flower
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But I’m the tank so I can’t solo kill them sadge

whole yacht
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why not

lilac plinth
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man i hate brew 14 my last key to get resil

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they dont belive on fury

torpid cypress
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hardly can get in a pug 10 with fury lol

whole yacht
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i make my own groups above 8

lilac plinth
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fury is fine on keys just press u buttons hard

wintry sundial
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I think warrior as a whole has leftover stigma from when affixes like Afflicted were a thing.

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Because in DF taking a warrior was almost never the play because they could do fuck all for your group on certain weeks.

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Then you start doing no affix keys and nobody wants warrior because wow community is so meta obsessed that it's a bit absurd.

hushed ocean
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they're meta for reasons

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warrior is a low damage classe

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and not very very high on ST

wintry sundial
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Ain't no way you just said that

hushed ocean
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that's facts

wintry sundial
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Arms destroys keys

hushed ocean
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well...

wintry sundial
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Fury is more situational but it definitely can crank

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Like ToP? Fury key all day

dense elbow
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Fury can crank, if you dont compare it to anything better than Aug, and you start really being picky to chose what you bring up as examples.

hushed ocean
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random DK/Mage/Hunter/boomy/ret will be better overall

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+bl + br

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even in TOP

wintry sundial
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Gonna be real dawg yeah theyre better but fury is plenty strong until you start pushing into 14+ keys.

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And 99% of the community is never even gonna think of doing a key that high

hushed ocean
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Even in 10

wintry sundial
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Bro if youre having trouble timing 10s I promise you that Fury isn't the issue

dense elbow
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If you are arguing that Fury can be helped through to even high end of the content. We agree.
If you argue Fury got enough DPS to do a 10, we all agree.

wanton mirage
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do you guys invite Fury warrs to your alt's 10s?

dense elbow
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Yeah, because I feel sorry for em

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No other reason honestly

wanton mirage
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lol

wintry sundial
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I take fury's to keys because I love them

hushed ocean
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that's a fact

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u can disagree, but that the way it is

wintry sundial
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Of course they'll do better. I literally said they will.

hushed ocean
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so we say the same thing.

dense elbow
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Way better? Nahhh, in a 10 where things die before they get to really get AoE value?

Fury is prob alright there.

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Guess it is time to check

wintry sundial
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Check for us dad

dense elbow
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Fury in 10s, seem to be around 2.5m, rest around 3m mark. I am suprised, the lead is in others favor even that low

hushed ocean
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10 or 14 it's basically same pulls, things die quicker, but we're still capped

dense elbow
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We do beat aug, with their 2.2m tho

wintry sundial
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Aug doesn't exist

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Blizzard took it out back and shot it

dense elbow
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Well, soon Aug will take our spot

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with another buff

wintry sundial
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The good news is that you play woyer

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And warrior isn't only fury

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Arms go cleave

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Top meters

dense elbow
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Top meters? I top meters as Fury

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But if I want to do good dam, I go an alt

wintry sundial
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Maybe it's confirmation bias but I've been lucky enough to have some monster fury players in my keys

dense elbow
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Problem is when you think Fury is a monster, you just not seen real monsters in action

proper onyx
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Top meters as arms? My udk alt does double the dps

undone flower
wintry sundial
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UHDK is just broken

wintry sundial
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Like I wouldn't compare them to anyone because they're just not okay right now shit deserves some tuning

undone flower
dense elbow
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UDK seem to be around most of the top end, not too far ahead?

wintry sundial
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If you beat an unholy on overall it means he's a shit DK

dense elbow
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Happy, no copium and goodwill allowed. This is #fury

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Only doomium

undone flower
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I did nerubar as fury

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Does it count ?

wintry sundial
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Pre or post nerf?

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Ngl the nerf to fury last tier was the most uncalled for shit ever

undone flower
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But when I push 13-14, I don’t take fury, I take arms tho

dense elbow
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Whiii, Fury do good prio dam

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prømiss

undone flower
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Black Friday as we can call it

wintry sundial
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Still don't understand it. Fury wasn't even that crazy it was perfectly suited to the add cleave in those fights. Kinda like fire mage now. If you look at pure ST damage it's actually the worst mage spec, but ignite cleave pushes it over them on meters.

undone flower
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Tbf idc, I’m not in full top players guild, so I was top-ish on meters (not on sikran or kyvesa tho)

wintry sundial
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Yeah it was good for the entire raid tier but the nerfs gutted it in M+

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Like it still wasn't terrible but it made it a lot weaker than it should've been

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Good news though! Warrior can't get nerfed this tier because it won't get any blue notes at all!

dense elbow
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We are the bar, we dont need buffs/nerfs, for we are the set point they balance things around

frank dawn
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we are the bottom baseline* you mean

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as long as warriors can do it, it's fine!

dense elbow
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low bar, high bar, we are wherever blizzard wants to set us

undone flower
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I think fury is hard to tune bc combo raid/m+, and we all know blizzard prefers raid tuning/balance over m+ if they have to choose

dense elbow
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Fury? Nah. Fury is quite easy to tune atm

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We are where they want us to be. We can disagree with that, but this is their intent.

frank dawn
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the raid argument doesn't really hold up anymore either imo. Like sure the first 2-3 weeks fury looked really good in raids

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but after multiple rounds of buffs, tier sets, and shorter encounters. Fury has become exceptionally meh

undone flower
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If they want to tune fury for m+ and not touch raid fury, they should maybe tackle the target cap situation

dense elbow
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You say that as if that isnt where they want Fury

undone flower
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I think too where fury is in raid is 100% where they aimed

frank dawn
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yeah, I mean, just to be clear. I'm not that upstet about how fury worked out in raid

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but saying it's like too strong or wahtever, to address the glaring M+ issues

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that I strongly disagree with

dense elbow
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Can we do 12s?

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Aight, Blizzard happy, goal achieved.

undone flower
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Not if you tag in my 12

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DECLINED

dense elbow
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To be fair, it has been proven that we can do 19s, theoretically

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So we in a good spot

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See?

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It is all fine, we are fine, it is fine.

frank dawn
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the problem is you're kind of right, and I definitely think that's how blizzard looks at it

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in several of the interviews on M+ they talked about completion rates and such

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but that's just not how the community works, imo

dense elbow
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Well, I do wonder if aug could get to the same spot as Fury, if they had as dedicated players in a dedicated comp.

proper onyx
dense elbow
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But our priøøøø dam

undone flower
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Completion rate wdym

eager thorn
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is taunting myth bandit adds to spell reflect the cast worth?

frank dawn
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but the community sees Fury warrior get absolutely gapped on any aoe pull and ignores us

undone flower
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Oh okok, yeah it seems good approach, since only 3 dps specs are meta

dense elbow
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Question is if we reach a hard cap, or roof, before other classes. If so, then there is an issue.

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If not, is there really one?

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Sure we do lower DPS

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but we 'can clear the content', and we are 'fine'.

undone flower
frank dawn
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My only real complaints are looking at things like OF/Roar and to some degree Bladestorm. I think there are some objective failures there in balancing, and it also just happens that would help our AoE damage too

summer quail
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that is it

dense elbow
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Dont think I would be as madge and frustrated, if BS actually did dam :v

forest owl
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boy that 5% blood beast nerf to dk certainly brought them down a peg or two clueless

dense elbow
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I spin, and ppl just doing their rotation is beating my ass, aint a good feel nor fun

burnt kelp
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the unholy nerf was actually to make warriors happy

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now the bloodbeast won't be higher than fury warriors on big packs

cold cape
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After Bladestorm we are at full rage right? Do we ever stack Slaughtering Strikes to stack with Brutal Finish? Or just send Rampage after Bladestorm? If I try to stack Slaughtering Srikes before Bladestorm I tend to lose enrage after Bladstorm since sometimes during Bladestorm it doesn't refresh

burnt kelp
proper onyx
undone flower
stoic loom
dense elbow
burnt kelp
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it's funny because wotlk classic wasn't that long ago

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what do wotlk classic and war within have in common you'll ask

cold cape
burnt kelp
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and the answer is that unholy dk pet does more damage than warrior in both versions

dense elbow
dense elbow
cold cape
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What about this?

Rampage
Raging Blow
Raging Blow
Bladestorm
Rampage

If I do this, I tend to lose enrage by the end of Bladestorm and don't have enough time to Rampage after it ends

proper onyx
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Top end example: get carried in m+

dense elbow
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Then you send your BS without enrage

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dont do that

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it already doesnt do dam

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that would kill it

undone flower
dense elbow
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I just RB till I RB no more

elfin belfry
undone flower
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Okok, i need to look into that since i will be fury next raid / tomorrow

summer quail
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very bad to not be enraged

proper onyx
dense elbow
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I just send it either way, I want that big Ramp dream... that doesnt really do dam, but I pretend it does

summer quail
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you send rbs that are not enraged to get a bigger ramp?

dense elbow
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Yap

summer quail
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oof

dense elbow
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Ya cant stop me, I do that once every second blue moon when it happens

viscid oxide
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bit of a weird one but is there any 2h that sheathe at waist?

cold cape
dense elbow
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Send as many as you can fit, yarp

cold cape
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Is it true that the barrels at Rik give a haste buff?

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Or is that my guild just trying to get me to switch to barrels lmao

dense elbow
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Would you not listen to them telling you to do so, if not? If so, so much haste.

cold cape
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I can't tell if they were being sarcastic

wind torrent
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Never heard of it.

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So probably not a thing

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I went and look

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But idk if mythic has it or not

undone flower
dense elbow
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PvP! PvP!

stoic loom
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isnt any other way to put it but cope if u think high end fury warriors arent realistically being carried in keys like cinderbrew

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their team would have an infinitely easier time with any of the meta specs

dense elbow
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Objection! Speculation!

undone flower
stoic loom
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if noxiv could play unh dk at the same level as he plays warrior

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he'd be doing his team a favour

dense elbow
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Objection! Speculation, again!

undone flower
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And his tank could play vdh

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And his healer disc

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And his hunter could play arcane mage

formal glacier
proper onyx
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I can’t imagine trying to pug a 15 as a war, you can’t even get into 10s as easy as alts

proper onyx
formal glacier
undone flower
full valve
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can confirm... ive never joined a key so far, i just run my own, impossible to get invited critcake

formal glacier
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but the 15's are a choke point. No invite in 3 days of queuing

undone flower
sour tundra
undone flower
proper onyx
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🤡

frank dawn
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I mean kind of, the timer only really matters for pushers. Farming 10-12s the timer doesn't really matter, and yes they aren't hard. But why would should you take a fury warrior who does lowest overall and has no lust/brez/other useful stuff lol

undone flower
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Yeah, since we talk about high end / it was a push comment, a comp usually is 2 shitters bashers and 1 prio dude (the prio dude being not best overalls but good on timer)

dense elbow
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Question you got to go into depth to, is if the damage profile Fury brings is bring more worth for the group as a whole, than the DPS loss on mass AoE.

If warrior, in theory, so much more ST dps than the AoE crew - then having that ST on bosses shortens the key overall, while the AoE classes will do more AoE on overall than if they brought another AoE dude. As they would be stuck longer on the boss. Losing the group time.

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Is it so? No clue, havent tried to, nor am I going to try do math on that.

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Just trust, prio dam is worth 10x value, than AoE dam

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Dont question, consume.

proper onyx
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Noxiv isn’t even top in boss dps in his keys lol

dense elbow
frank dawn
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lol

undone flower
proper onyx
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It is possible to call out fury and warrior in general for being in a horrible spot for m+ and to be calm about it

undone flower
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I can feel anger that needs management

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I never said it was not in horrible spot

proper onyx
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When my main can't get into 10s for weekly and does half the dps of an alt, that is a problem that needs to be fixed

undone flower
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Blizz tried to give fury the niche / prio damage and it extra fails at it

proper onyx
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Using Noxiv as an example of fury being fine when he is literally being carried is pure unadulterated cope

stoic loom
whole yacht
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whats the macro to cast an ability where my cursor is? [/cast [@mouseover,exists] Ability Name]?

proper onyx
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@cursor

silk wharf
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Also, all damage fury is cleaving on its 4 additional targets that is hitting mobs that will die regardles is completely wasted imo.

fading sky
fading sky
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But ye seems like fury needs a buff to st

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Only on thane

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Slayer slaps just bad in m+

undone flower
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adds another RB modifier but in the hero tree

stoic loom
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just softcap meat cleaver isnt of capping it at 4

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wouldnt affect raid at all

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good buff in m+

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ideally make roar and Odyns fury not garbage, but clearly they dont wanna do that cos of raid

wanton mirage
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I started playing outlaw for M+ and I kinda missed the old fast paced fury. powerful enrage needs to be gone.

whole yacht
proper onyx
whole yacht
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ok

frank dawn
full valve
proper onyx
# elfin belfry Who said fury was fine?????

you literally said holding their own, they are not holding their own. They are middle on boss dps, last on prio dps, last on overall dps, closer to tank than the real dps

whole yacht
elfin belfry
fading sky
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Then mm appeared

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And is just a better fury warriorkeks

proper onyx
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or sin rogue but yes

frank dawn
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eh, I mean I think people are fairly reasonable. But fury literally offers nothing to the group. We have a garbage raid buff, we don't have brez, we don't have lust, we don't have an immunity, we don't have normal rez, and we can't omega burst that awful pack everyone hates.

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Fury has to offer more to the group

fading sky
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5% ap

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Is decent in phys grp

stoic loom
elfin belfry
barren dagger
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noxiv is timing so if you don't have at least all 17s timed, it's skill issue

fading sky
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He is only what 10% behind

proper onyx
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30%

stoic loom
proper onyx
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top dps 5.5m, noxiv 3.8m, tank 2.4m

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thats a huge problem

barren dagger
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he brings prio damage so we're cooking

proper onyx
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he literally doesn't

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he is last on hopgoblins

fading sky
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10% behind rogue?

elfin belfry
proper onyx
fading sky
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20% behind mm

stoic loom
fading sky
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It is a horrid key for us

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Meadery

forest owl
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guys guys..stop arguing, the 3% aura buff will save us.

stoic loom
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noxiv times his run DESPITE being a fury warrior

elfin belfry
stoic loom
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There's people in the handicapped paralympics that swim faster than me

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So i guess their disability is actually good then

dense elbow
elfin belfry
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If you need anything simpler than that then all I can say is that the rest of us suffers from major skill issues.

proper onyx
fading sky
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Carry is a strong word

proper onyx
fading sky
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But he could play arms and be closer

sand crest
stoic loom
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what would they do without it?

dense elbow
fading sky
stoic loom
proper onyx
elfin belfry
dense elbow
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Ye, I cant agree with that. But we wont see eye to eye on that

fading sky
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Fine in raid

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In keys also fine

barren dagger
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imagine if noxiv played arms......he would be 2 chesting +21s.....

fading sky
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Like it does well in normal content so fine?

proper onyx
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people would realize that arms is also trash but for slightly different reasons

dense elbow
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If he was Pwarrior, they would do +23s

proper onyx
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there you go

fading sky
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Arms does more boss dmg and better mass aoe. While decent prio at 2 targets?

barren dagger
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maybe you need warpaint at certain key levels

fading sky
barren dagger
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plus the extra stam from 2h

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who knows

fading sky
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Ok this is indeed sad

barren dagger
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aug is worse though

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all good

dense elbow
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is it tho, is it really?

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More utility, similar damage

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I dont know man

earnest canyon
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what does thic+ mean?

modest condor
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it's a funny way to wite thicc

earnest canyon
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yes, but what does it mean in that context?

modest condor
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thicc 13-19 keys

barren dagger
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bro i never seen a single affliction this season and apparently they do this much damage

stoic loom
earnest canyon
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you mean keys with mass aoe only?

stoic loom
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dont make me link you noxiv's +18 run!!!

fading sky
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Kindda weird our st seems.strong in raid no? Or is that just early game cope?

quiet breach
# fading sky

dawg... how are we basically equal with fucking aug

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there's no way its that bad

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I don't believe it

fading sky
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Fr i dno

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Augs augin dks

frank dawn
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augs been buffed 3 times now since patch launch? the curse of fury. Like half of the dps specs have been buffed while fury has gotten nothing

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and they all have better tier bonuses

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fury deflation, tale as old as time

fading sky
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Fury rly rly needs big buff to roar // spear of!

barren dagger
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they even buffed frost

undone flower
# fading sky Fr i dno

you know after the first buff to aug, i saw one in a cinderbrew buffing ret + udk, i thought it doesn't need that much more to re-enter the not DEAD DEAD list

undone flower
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he had 50% uptime on the thing, idk if it was a good aug or not

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ebon might?

stoic loom
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we get outscaled every week by the lack of buffs and encounters getting shorter cos of gear + undermine buff

frank dawn
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our ST in raid is arguably still pretty good, but like everything else fury has slowly fallen every week

barren dagger
#

ST is still worse than arms for same ilvl though right?

fading sky
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Its a good prog class

proper onyx
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st in raid is very good but there is only 1 actual st fight

quiet breach
undone flower
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but you can check boss damage on other fights

fading sky
stoic loom
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and short cds

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the longer fights go on, the better ur dps looks compared to others

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also yeah fury is decently tanky

quiet breach
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@edgy widget why do u recommend armor leg enchant instead of the stam one?

proper onyx
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because you get 98 strength from it from 10% strength from armor talents

fading sky
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Yup

dense elbow
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Hurry, delete your poke, before it is too late

warm crag
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rejoice for the hall of fame is closed

modest condor
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Chatting no it's not for another 2 days

fading sky
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Now buff fury

modest condor
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wait

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we're nowhere close to 200 kills yet

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why are you baiting us

warm crag
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xd

modest condor
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skill issue

sudden tusk
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wouldnt have happened with blue spongie

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spong issue

barren dagger
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how is hof over if there's not 200 kills yet

young swan
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HoF doesnt close mid week

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its just a bug

jaunty vector
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hey, quick question - i am currently reading the simC apl and I am not sure what this part means: (!debuff.champions_might.up|debuff.champions_might.up&debuff.champions_might.remains>gcd)

So if the target does not have the debuff we cast the spell or he has the debuff and the debuff is longer then our gcd we also cast the spell? Isn't that like a super rare one in a million condition? (its from raging blow)

Or is champions might something different then the regular spear debuff?

modest condor
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it's because you want to fit a rampage in spear

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if you dont put that condition in it might fill the last gcd of spear with an rb and you lose the crit buff for the big rampage

jaunty vector
modest condor
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things sometimes have different names in sims

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like the whirlwind buff is called meat cleaver even tho the buff ingame is just called whirlwind

sour frigate
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balls cleaver

full valve
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guys what covenant do i pick for fury

remote bobcat
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covenant

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covenant

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covenant

full valve
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💀

jaunty vector
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maybe hes leveling shadowlands

sour frigate
full valve
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just came here to trigger ptsd on some

iron portal
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Surely

modest condor
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@scenic quest what covenant for assa rogue?

sour frigate
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ass rogue*

full valve
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are there any shadowland enjoyers out here

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any shadowlanders

sour frigate
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👈

full valve
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hot take: if shadowlands was released on todays standards/not covid it couldve been easily top xpacs

dense elbow
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no

modest condor
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no

full valve
sour frigate
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yes

modest condor
forest owl
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im a warlords enjoyer, mainly cuz it was my first expansion in here and any mmo ever gladge

full valve
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for me shadowlands was such a cool concept just wasted due to bad decisions so ye

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warbands/talents and more content schedule couldve made it insane for me

chilly fractal
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WoD was the last xpack you could get away with doing next to nothing outside of raid without trolling... I miss those days

full valve
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i miss legion

chilly fractal
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I don't

full valve
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tough crowd

chilly fractal
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I'll never forget looting my first legendary.... the bracers that healed you

forest owl
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my first leggo was the whirlwind belt

scenic quest
heavy galleon
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How corruption will change things for us ?

full valve
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if the "boost secondary stats" becomes the bis one i might cry

summer quail
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prepare to cry shelks

full valve
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are we getting cyrce helmet now

earnest canyon
edgy widget
earnest canyon
edgy widget
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More like 2-3%

earnest canyon
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oh better than I was expecting, neat

edgy widget
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I’ll put something in the updates channel tomorrow, but corruptions aren’t out for another month anyway

quiet breach
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has there ever been a dps spec in the game where the gameplay was basically play wack a mole with the lit up buttons

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in any iteration of wow

edgy widget
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Wym, that’s like half of them

quiet breach
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really?

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I mean the light ups in the regular ui

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not wa packs

earnest canyon
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i find it easier than BM yeah, because I at least need to make sure I have focus

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i just ignore rage on fury

earnest canyon
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oh idk about that, they tried to make every class have something

edgy widget
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I disabled most of the glows for that reason.

quiet breach
earnest canyon
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it just lights up when its pressible, not tracking 2 debuffs

edgy widget
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Nobody ever said anything about optimal

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The lights aren’t set up for optimization in the first place

earnest canyon
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Yeah you cant ask a basic question then move the goal posts lmao

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you can play fury perfectly fine just pressing the buttons as they light up, its not optimal at all though

full valve
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u press tha meatball

quiet breach
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its not moving the goalposts

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I didn't ask if there's specs where buttons light up

quiet breach
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I asked if there's specs where the gameplay is pressing the lit up buttons

earnest canyon
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you do ask some strange questions though

edgy widget
quiet breach
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well, that's what I intended, I apologize if I didn't make myself clearer

edgy widget
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But the more important disconnect is that you’re implying blizzard sets up what we consider the “optimal” rotation, when the reality couldn’t be further from

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They don’t, we do - sometimes (pieces of) the two may align, but rarely on purpose

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And the buttons are set to light up based on procs and activations, not optimization; likewise, they’re usually setup once when the spells are made, rather than iterated on with each new balancing pass

vale dove
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Dont suppose anyone knows if u can leap mid knockback on sprocket

earnest canyon
vale dove
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instead of gate?

earnest canyon
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not sure if that is right.....I tried leap once and it knocked me off

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gate is randomly there or not.....casual guild

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it goes like:
"can we get a gate pls?"
gate is there
silly wipe 1
silly wipe 2
need gate on pull 3 not there

sinful orbit
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Ah I understand

vale dove
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on mythic? xD

earnest canyon
flat river
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GG CRITCAKE GOT CE

dense elbow
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Gz on HoF erga

sudden tusk
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wooo

sour frigate
gleaming siren
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Kritischer Kuchen Halle der Ehre

sullen dove
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🚋

sour cloak
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is funhouse lens better than kezan's eye for fury?

sour frigate
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Depends on content

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Kezans good at 5+ minutes fights

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Lense generally good

gusty quartz
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hello guys, whats bis proffesions for fury warrior and why.

sullen dove
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i mean doesnt rly matter what profession you do for any class but if you want to make your own gear blacksmithing pretty common

maiden ingot
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Alchemy for Flask Duration quality of Life. Retail does not have Profession Power gains anymore.

sullen dove
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aside from that like idk amybe theres cool shit for engy or something, and alchemy yea extra flasks is ok

maiden ingot
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There ain't no Synapse Springs or stuff like that

dense elbow
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Tailoring for Threat Reduction cape enchant gladge

gusty quartz
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i see

sour cloak
gusty quartz
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thanks guys

sullen dove
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if ur playing arms you can die by the sword and furys not ripping any aggro ever 😄

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enchant sure feels nice for dev evoker tho

covert coyote
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I can pull threat off tanks while doing 1/3 the dam of other classes that don't even generate threat

summer quail
sullen dove
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there are some dungeons ive found its possible to get a pretty damn high uptime if your tank is kinda with the program

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like priory pretty easy to hold one from the start of the dungeon to the end

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almost always chain pulling and/or rarely more than 10 seconds between pulling packs

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after second boss you need to do a little bit of a hustle but plenty doable

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but ye much like signet brand kinda depend on the tank to keep moving

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20 sec timer rather than 15 tho makes it a little better

chilly fractal
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I’ve only pulled threat off Veng DHs… pretty sure they are bugged

gleaming siren
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bugged

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and most of them also bad

sour frigate
sour cloak
quasi turtle
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for dungeons with giga pulls, can we play bladestorm? just for overall dps? or is it a bad idea

whole yacht
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It is not a worthwhile change

quasi turtle
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kk wasnt sure bc in my last 2 runs i swapped and it was 11% bladestorm overall vs 7% ravager

sullen dove
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thunderblast gonna do more aoe than bs pretty much all the time

quasi turtle
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kk thx!

edgy widget
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so while Bladestorm may be contribuing more of your damage, your overall damage is also lower as a result

quasi turtle
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makes sense

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thx for the replys

oblique trail
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Bladestorm itself (iirc) also just does more damage on its own compared to Ravager's own damage

honest sundial
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@modest condor we ramping its 17 priory time kekw

modest condor
honest sundial
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im giving them 17 resilient key i think they should pay me...

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honestly was quite smooth, and only had like 2-3 early resets

modest condor
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nice

honest sundial
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we had 6 deaths tho

modest condor
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18 timable?

quiet breach
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that's what mine does if the alt is shitty geared

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i looked at the dev evoker wowhead guide and it looks a lot more complex than fury warrior, do u think that's an accurate statement? @sullen dove

sudden tusk
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🔥 🐲

honest sundial
verbal garden
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If you swap back and forth between Fury and Arms, what's the best embellishment? Dawn or Duskthread? One of each maybe?

edgy widget
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likely double dusk

sullen dove
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like base gameplay u wanna have your 3 dots on your target before engulf and never engulf without fire breath on the target

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and then just same old spamming pyre in aoe or disint st it’s pretty wicked

sour frigate
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True

sullen dove
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More than just dps rotation tho they have like 10+ buttons of every utility in the game

sour frigate
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🔥 🐲

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I often failed to maintain the dots at first

sudden tusk
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㊙️

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what is this

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🈹

earnest canyon
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I always felt like the spell effects for evoker never slap even if the numbers are big. It's like puff the magic dragon blowing out a nice friendly cloud of smoke

sullen dove
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that i have done

slim coral
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Maybe Japanese

full valve
sullen dove
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i was like "i mean 2/3 dots is ok right"

slim coral
sullen dove
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but fire breath is like the 1 dot you cant hit engulf without

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cuz no consume flame

sudden tusk
smoky vale
sudden tusk
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was dooing weeklies

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was goofy

smoky vale
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that deathwheel does big dam

sudden tusk
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i tried to do a key as fury and was fighting tank dam the entire time

full valve
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empyrean hammer does a shit ton of dmg

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cant keep up

sudden tusk
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its like 25% of their damage its crazy

feral ivy
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careful of mead.. the bee boss his bees are not destroying the barrels sometimes.. had 9 bees at once and kept going up

full valve
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the bee boss has mechanics?

whole yacht
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just

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kill the bees again?

feral ivy
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did but still a bug that can be scary if anything goes wrong

full valve
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i usually zug the big bee and let cleave do its wonders purpleface

whole yacht
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^

thick fossil
thick fossil
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Super bork!

flat river
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love foxes

thick fossil
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My little tuxedo boi!

thick fossil
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Proof foxes can be polite.

dense fulcrum
sudden tusk
#

gz

full valve
dense fulcrum
thick fossil
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@sudden tusk Same energy.

modest condor
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how did i end up in #off-topic i thought i had that channel muted

thick fossil
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lol

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Sorry

full valve
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the foxes are fury warriors

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asking for best stats

sudden tusk
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vupera technically

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making sure we have the best food for our well fed buff

smoky vale
honest sundial
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@modest condor we are getting closer and closer - 17 flood oneshot

modest condor
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👀

sudden tusk
#

fury warrior attempting to get his dks to give him io

honest sundial
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fury warrior giving his dks io*

flat river
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My guildmaster is drunk and is dming me in tounges

full valve
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He be spittin the Thu'um

lyric compass
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Give fury a talent to increase damage based on the amount enemies near you. mechanically the same but not useless in big aoe

velvet obsidian
mortal veldt
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this may be a stupid question, but in your cool down window is there any point to even hitting bloodthirst ? if you are trying to stack as many crushing blows for rampage as you can and crushing blow resets the rampage proc is there any point?

lyric compass
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Man, im seeing these WoW content creators starting to bring up AoE caps, and they only talk about monks it being an issue. Even the players dont care about fury, sad

sour frigate
young swan
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the only classes that matter are the ones that max plays for 2 weeks

sudden tusk
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get me on the poddy c

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we need warrior rep in there

earnest canyon
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It's just rambling about literally nothing for over an hour

sudden tusk
#

The bench is a better podcast you are right

rocky hemlock
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is arms still better than fury ?

hardy bluff
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for?

sullen dove
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yes in m+ more situational in raid

junior gale
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Madox for PoddyC

full valve
dim tinsel
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Inshallah brothers our time will come 11.2

dense elbow
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Sadly, if we got our burst back. It would be nerfed in a week to irrelevance.

Fury is one of the few spec that is supposed to be low-mid by design.

We are the low bar, set in place so blizz know if specs need buffs to be in line

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If we are set too high, ppl would require silly buffs to catch up above us

dim tinsel
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Fury has almost always been a top dps spec in the last patch of the expac

dense elbow
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If you mean the silly seasons, like awakened and such. Sure. Then we get nerfed for the real content

radiant plank
#

arms in df s4

dim tinsel
#

Huh

radiant plank
clever belfry
#

don't say the s word

smoky vale
dim tinsel
#

Arms in df s3 was also pipes

clever belfry
#

i will find you

smoky vale
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what is the s word

clever belfry
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Dont say it gio

dim tinsel
#

Fyrakk execute dmg

smoky vale
clever belfry
#

good

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keep it that way

dim tinsel
#

Spec?

radiant plank
#

They dont know

smoky vale
#

gm @clever belfry

radiant plank
#

The forbidden S word

smoky vale
radiant plank
#

gm

smoky vale
#

3/8 14s done

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soon resil 14s

clever belfry
#

We need to do our duty

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protect the people

radiant plank
#

Its worse than any other slur

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on planet earth

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Should be on the list ™️

smoky vale
#

y is title 70 points off from last season

dim tinsel
#

Dmg numbers aside fury does feel good to play no?

smoky vale
#

already

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no

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i hate it

full valve
radiant plank
smoky vale
#

bro

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i want to do smolderon

clever belfry
#

prepatch yooo!!!

#

relevant metric!!!

dim tinsel
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I mean its kinda fun the only thing thats kinda aids is when you overcap on rage

dense elbow
dim tinsel
#

Thats not intuitive other than that its pretty fun

radiant plank
clever belfry
#

real king shit

radiant plank
smoky vale
#

no fury feels bad to play when you play like outlaw rogue but do less damage

dim tinsel
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The most disgusting thing blizzard has done to warriors is the removal of the unhinged ss and ww mechanic

clever belfry
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Ww does last xpac dmg

smoky vale
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and half your talents do nothing

radiant plank
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"Arms ST is on the weaker side"
"Sure here is Cleave damage up by 10%"

clever belfry
radiant plank
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atp arms has more patch notes that buff Cleave than patch notes that dont buff Cleave

clever belfry
#

the amount of free reaps would've been

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stupid frankly

dim tinsel
#

Nerf other shit not the interaction

radiant plank
#

Saying that like fury didnt get dumpstered in nerubar

dim tinsel
#

Thats was goat

clever belfry
#

Wouldn't have been shit compared to what we got

radiant plank
#

Real

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Imagine cleaving quick bt's on ovi or ansurek

dim tinsel
#

Imagine how much you'd be glazing over you screen the moment u pop small cds on a 5 mob pack

clever belfry
#

design raid around fury cds
fury good
fury gets farmed
useless in keys

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the fury timeline

dense elbow
#

Fury gets flat dam profile. Good in raid, bad in keys

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Fury as always

dim tinsel
#

Its actually so pathethic to play fury in keys

clever belfry
#

burst Profile is always better

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not just keys

radiant plank
#

Real

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Rather do 80% of my damage every 3mins than do a flat profile

clever belfry
#

if you do most your dam in 10% of the time you can get fucked over less hard basically

radiant plank
#

uhdk in aberruss

clever belfry
#

flat shit esp uptime slave piss on the other hand

radiant plank
#

wajajaja

clever belfry
#

awful

radiant plank
#

vs fury in aberrus

dim tinsel
#

Is there any odyns fury angle ?

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In m+

clever belfry
#

no

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its turbo dead

dim tinsel
dense elbow
#

It is only a few % DPS loss

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You can take it

dim tinsel
#

Nah i mean like can it pop off on big pulls

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Apparently no

dense elbow
#

Like, we already a bigger DPS loss, a few 0.x% weaker overall in the group won't matter

dense elbow
dim tinsel
#

Insane

#

Nothing is coming in 11.1.5 right nothing expected

dense elbow
#

OF is balanced around being a global in a vacuum of 1 aGCD, not the value it brings over time

full valve
dim tinsel
#

TRUEE

smoky vale
dim tinsel
#

Fuck this im rerolling arcane fotm with dk and druid

dense elbow
dense elbow
# smoky vale

If I scan the tag, I will get your address and name, no? Then I can prove you are Gala

smoky vale
#

hes across the world bud

dense elbow
#

Why you sent your dog so far away?!

sour frigate
smoky vale
#

gala is, stupid

smoky vale
dense elbow
#

Don't call yourself that. You are smart considering playing warrior

sour frigate
radiant plank
sullen dove
#

@clever belfry please explain why i am being trolled

dense elbow
#

If only they didn't basically do the same boss dam now

smoky vale
#

why aint you asleep budddd

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budddd

#

buddd

sullen dove
#

tf are you on

smoky vale
#

stop proccing me buddddp

sour frigate
#

All dks and druids i encounter do like 1.5kk okayge

smoky vale
dense elbow
#

Ones I see do 2m

sullen dove
#

among us

smoky vale
sour frigate
#

Overtimed mechagon by 1 sec could be handy

smoky vale
#

i do like 2.2-2.4 if i get cds during execute

dense elbow
#

Sounds like you killed that mecha

#

Should have played a real class

dense elbow
#

2m, sure bedge 2.4? medge

sour frigate
#

And deathskip before that okayge

dense elbow
#

Stop dying all the time. You can't keep blaming others for killing you on purpose

smoky vale
#

i dont think you realize how strong uh is in execute

sour frigate
#

It wasnt me who inted

#

Balls bugged and killed 3 of us okayge

dense elbow
sullen dove
smoky vale
#

i have to find

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and im in bed

#

so no uploading log for now

#

🙂

dense elbow
#

It can wait, I will poke ya later after bedge

#

Zzz 💤 is important

smoky vale
#

nopd

dense elbow
sour frigate
smoky vale
#

i think maybe im just remembering details from bosses with adds

#

gg

#

but i see 2m for sure

#

not 2.4

gleaming siren
#

Liar57

sour frigate
#

Pumper57

sullen dove
#

chud57

smoky vale
gleaming siren
#

No

#

I did now

#

Very dog much cute

warm crag
#

Consider that for a moment

fickle bluff
smoky vale
#

i can laugh

warm crag
smoky vale
clever belfry
#

id like to actually play a game, not have the game play itself

dense elbow
#

Gio refuse to bring the receipts, smh. Lier confirmed sadge How can I ever trust Gio again

hardy bluff
#

your fault for ever trusting him...

smoky vale
#

highest i can find without damage amp or slight adds

dense elbow
#

Ye, most got either or

full valve
smoky vale
#

prob just downtime that he cant get away with that me and shaman can

gleaming siren
#

Gio57 did you know

#

Wowhead commenters figured out Spongie bought a lockout

#

And that's why he didn't get awarded Hall of Fame

smoky vale
#

i thought spongie got hof last tier

gleaming siren
#

He could never

smoky vale
#

but i hear about that drama as well

lament otter
#

hi gio

smoky vale
#

hi feelz

#

i want to play slay the spire

#

but i cant go on my pc

gleaming siren
#

The wowhead commenter knows it FOR A FACT

gleaming siren
#

Lil bro

smoky vale
#

bro i dont want to buy

#

and doesnt share save files

#

mainly 2nd

gleaming siren
#

Giostronk

smoky vale
#

lets talk about how sts is prob best game ever

gleaming siren
#

Okay sorry that was rude

#

STS is pretty goated

#

Okay what do I order Gio

smoky vale
#

chicken kebab

gleaming siren
#

I am at a restaurant

smoky vale
#

show menu

gleaming siren
#

No

#

Maybe Chicken Pakora as appetizer

smoky vale
#

how am i supposed to pick from the menu

gleaming siren
smoky vale
#

give 3 options

gleaming siren
#

Last time I had Tikka Masala

#

I think the rump steak with gorg sauce was goated

#

And pizza also good here

#

Don't ask it's a weird mumbojumbo menu

smoky vale
#

rump steak sound yummy

oblique trail
smoky vale
warm crag
smoky vale
warm crag
#

idk look up our rio i guess

radiant plank
#

I bet it was Phoenix...

gleaming siren
#

I cannot confirm that Turtles killed ANY bosses this tier

#

Spongie has been lying

#

He is hardstuck Vexie

undone flower
#

I mean, bikes are crazy hard

smoky vale
#

can confirm i was 2nd guild that killed gallywix...

#

revvez57

undone flower
#

And it’s you who sold lockouts