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its not even an upgrade until Tuesday when I have the 15 crests to cap it out
lol
I call end of april or early may
There is a .7 patch right? Prob then if so
the classic blizz dev play of "we'll promise something at a point in time, ok jk here's when they're actually coming out" then they announce the patch and say "wow look at all this cool stuff youre getting thats not what you want!"
My favorite was the “we looked at the calendar” post
Let me dream of myth bis and eye of kezan man


Do you think it's worth crafting gloves or waist? I have those two at champion track still and cloak/bracers are both hero
If u have 4 set without gloves might be worth
Yeah I do, so I think I will go for it. It is my alt anyway so it is a good way to pump up the ilvl
I have a question regarding Mountain thane M+ first pull BL. I have read multiple guides on the rotation prio when you're in it, but I'm kinda confused which way of doing it is most optimal going in with 0 rage.
Do i use Ravager, charge, reck+avatar, Rampage, thundering roar, thunder blast?
Reck-> charge+tc-> ramp
Reck+ charge gives enough to insta-ramp
I usually reck-> charge with tc then ramp to insta hit 5t with ramp
Rav into roar
Not sure if that is the best way tho, feels like it is to me
I tried playing arms, I did better dmgwise, but i hated the desyncs of CDs and demolish cast.
arms just does it all better
Not CDs
I feel like fury is just more fun.
Fury 🔛 🔝
The fuck
Is it possible to make or have a WA that;
Shows Rampage IF Whirlwind is up?
you want it to display rampage (if you have rage to press it) while you have ww stacks?
Yes exaclty!
if so, that is possible
i would not make that tho, just have a reasonable rage bar / ramp tracker and a WW tracker
I do have all that - what is want to get my eyes off it having track of all that. Would be easier if a track alone came up
ok then your UI is just setup badly
also WW you should just get a feel for at some point
you will know when to WW
just cause X globals have passed
YOur opinion is not the answer.
your question was if its possible

i gave you that answer straight away
yes, and now im asking.. how?
create a blank wa
make trigger 1 track ww buff
trigger 2 rampage action usable
go conditions and add a show condition on trigger 2 if trigger 1 true
👍
Bless you - thanks ! ❤️
Weakaura literacy is dead 🥀
Works flawless - only shows Rampage when within' whirlwind. (Only issue that wrong icon picture, not sure if that can be changed?)
Tracking tset buff?
Yes, the thing below is.
Also you have your we trcker smackdab in the middle and easily readable, imo not really possible to miss that
But for what
If you wanna track ramp with ww, why not rb, bt or exe?
AoE matter compared to Tset - only reason i got this thing to keep track of that.
as i said . testing something out here 🙂
Slayers in raid should be pretty good according to Archon.
im 99% of the time an arms enjoyer
just gives it more cores -> faster computation time
but the biggest draw of subbing is getting to skip the queue
yeah but i think second option is best, first one 2m itteration i dont like it
lads is it worth it to run eye of kezan in m+? sims shows it do well but in game i don't think im using it to its fullest protentional
its bad when stacks drop
its compettetive when it doesnt, i personally wouldnt
on fury i am using house of cards and floodgate trinket, very practical and good
i see, i guess i'll be swaping it with sigent for the time being till i get my hands on the bandit trinket
i suggest you farming delves for trinket
Mechano core ampiflier. energy drink and lens are all good trinkets on heroic track
i personally wouldnt use 2 min trinket on warrior
would you rather use mass destruction or precision blsting from lock -n-stalk in m+? or a different trinket? stalk with cards sims atm best for me in single target.
Personally I got that on mythic and I think you should use it purely on ST fights, for aoe you are better off using some proc trinket
On top of that it only gives you haste while the other proc trinket would give you like 4.5k str as flat stats on top of a proc effect
my other options are pacemaker hero and mechano core/energy drink on champion. maybe pacemaker then for m+?
I think I'm running both of them (pacemaker and mechano) for fury and arms
I did not bother to farm energy drink and mechano is normal track 658 max ilvl
Hello warriors ! i have a question, i think i don't use well my tier set bonuses, i look at some warcraft log best warriors on each bosses in HM mode, i saw they use very often 4 bloodthirst in a row in their rotation which i don't do, i want to know why they do 4 bloodthirst in a row, is it because of the tier set bonuses ? is it for something else ? i want to understand because i clearly don't use bloodthirst so often... thank you
bro they are not using 4 bloodthirst, ravager casts bloodthirst for you
and it shows as you casting the spell
aaaaah yes indeed
Yeah bladestorm/ravager casts BT through the unhinged talent
damn i'm stupid sorry
look your tier set doesnt change your rotation one bit. but there is a weak aura for bloodthirst that takes most conditions for bloodthirst into consideration including your tier piece
i suggest you use it
#1237307732705415228 message you can find it here
well something is wrong tho in my rota or something because when i see first warrior 666 ilv 4M overall on the first boss in HC, my best is 2M8 with 665 on the same boss
i mean i'm not the best war in the world i know but i thought i could approach them at least and i'm far from that huge perfs
i mean
thx for the macro bro
m8
1st boss is based on timers
u shouldnt care
that's only an example tho, same things on other boss
which other
if its sprocket, and u have same timers as them and equal gear
do sim c if u are close to ya sim
if u are be happ
y
on second boss one warrior is at 2M6 overall with 663 ilv i'm at 2M1 with 3 ilv more 🥲
3rd rick reverb, i end up 1M7 on my best (still 665 ilv) some warriors here end up 2M4 and 2M5 with 661 and 662 ilv that's crazy
almost surely an APM or uptime issue, i just smash my face on the keyboard and dont track anything, stick to boss, smash shiny button
oh by the way i have an other question for you guys, my Raid leader use an addon call Heikili and he is a real goat of wow , an addon that show your rotation in live etc is it a good addon or it's bullshit ?
can be good for learning new classes, fury feels face roll enough it'll just make you overthink
That's a real fury
yh same feeling

dont recommend it personally, just practice your rotation and opener, use the correct talents on bosses and known when to use cds for timings, you'll be in a better spot
there's not too much things to track as fury anyway, with some decent ui and couple of WA you're good to go
ay ay captain !
oh and if you want specific help you can post your log on #1347646810457636974
What're you guys stat distribution like (665+)?
Overall can be misleading depending on the amount of pad they can do
Pure ST bosses are the most consistent indicators of performance imo
Whatever sim tells you
40
20
50
3
Ofc but yknow

Mostly because I'm switching over from arms so I wanted to see as an outline
Only outline is u need a bit more mastery
For me mastery>haste>vers>crit but idk the %
Clearly
Like 53 20 16 11 or so for me, but those are just guesstimates
19 23 51 7
WINNER!!
wrong 7
My guilds started alt runs now and I haven’t had time to play / learn other toons.. thinking of making another warrior lol
:aimed_shot: 
MM is super fun yeah
I was planning on leveling an mm hunter, it has no pet right ?
not unless u want it (its better without)
they let u have it but its like SMF for warrior.....a flavor thing noone takes and dps loss
it just goes BBBrrrrrrt
nice, I'm gonna play it then, missed playing hunter
I also agree the robot, whatever stats they say are better is how you want to go. As there is no real breakpoints.
@clever belfry balls alert, balls alert, you are balls
I've always enjoyed mm more than the other 2
Yepp
BM is a snore fest, survival is kinda fun though.
are guilds stopping re-clears at bandit or after?
Depends entirely on the guild
If you raid 2 days, a single day of reclear can eat up most of an entire day of prog depending on how clean you are with reclears
ah true true
But as a 3 day guild, you are more likely to just reclear at Bandit, and then first extend after killing Bandit
we are 3 day and did heroic skip and killed all the way to stix
and still progging stix
Then I think you're more than fine in still just thinking about reclears
We just beat mythic Stix last night, and we're still planning on re-clearing most. Just in a different order.
Thankfully the skip drops you right in front of OaB now.
I have a question. I’ve crafted a 675 weapon with ascendance but now have a 678 vault weapon. Why is my sim telling me to MH the 675 weapon?
Do i just ignore it and use 678 in MH?
assuming you did the sim correctly and it ist not like dungeon slice or something, i would trust the sim....but does the 678 simply have better stats?
er the 675
don't you always want the highest ilvl weapon to be on your MH ?
usually, but i cant see his sim
Stats shouldn’t matter. You want your highest raw dps weapon on your main hand
then idk whats going on with his sim
Which is your highest ilvl one
I figured that only 3 ilevels might be the problem if it has like crit and vers
and his crafted has haste mastery, but again, idk
Why would that matter
That didn’t matter stats are added from both weapons
You get full use of the stats no matter what hand its in
You can’t add the 300 damage from 675 to 678
idk, something seems weird so just trying to think of scenarios where it would make sense
Or whatever the number is
Ure wrong
U dont get full value from dps stat
Not from dps
That is the most affecting
But you get 2nd
Stats
Raw damage is only true to mainland
Offhand it’s 50% I think
We're talking about secondaries dummy. Yes you get full value
holy sht there are like 20 people called Robin
Post your sim
raidbots stats?
no, you just sim the gear you have or the gear you might want to aim for, and pretty much ignore stats
right?
Link the sim you probably didnt give it the option to offhand the crafted wep
if the ilevel diff is big enough crit vers can be better
The image is just what my current stats are. I use raidbots to sim. I don't follow any breakpoints, hence why the spread is so wild. Lol
yeah
i have -8% speed in game because of irl debuff 😢
Blame your ISP! Lol
Nah my ISP is fine, im just shite lol
what is the proc rate of mechano amplifier? just had it proc once in a 3.5min fight
way higher than that
sounds like you were only looking at one of the buffs
sometimes your highest or lowest stat can change during combat, that can cause mechano core to occasionally give a different buff
I need to see what some of these ppl who have whirlwind talents AND vicious contempt are giving up. do u guys usually run both?
nah i checked logs it definitely only procced once the entire fight, oh well rng i guess
link the log
not really bothered too much about it, just seemed like a low uptime, was curious what the actual rppm is
you did get unlucky because in my experience average uptime is like 35-40%, but that's not 1 proc
that's 5 procs
oh wait it was thrown into uncategorized buffs thats why i wasnt seeing anything else i was just checking buffs at top
yeah
One of them is the highest stat buff one is lowest stat
no it depends on which stat it gives
Well
most often will be
one of 2
There's 4 different buffs tho technically yea
Kaboom
it's specifically the crit buff that goes in uncategorized
yeah good to know now, i had been seeing wild uptimes fight to fight but didnt know the crits were chucked into the bottom of the page lol
we need buffs
ew
its better than nothing 
what does that luck even do
makes elf special jump anims (flips, spins) always happen
lol
can confirm, am elf, just got 30 in a row. dont @ me
Just wanted to clarify a part of the fury priority list really quick - After bladestorm you spam raging blow regardless of rage cap to buff rampage right? Then outside of that window rampage as soon as I can or rampage at >100 rage? And then bloodthirst > raging blow if it has 3+ stacks?
@shell jackal
Does it matter which wep is in main/off hand? crafted 675 vs m+ 678
Yes
higher ilvl in main hand always
sir yes sir
Yo do you only BT when you have 3 stacks of BC or VC, or do you send BT if rage starved to get a button in before raging blows etc come back up?
both
best thing is to get the WA and bt when it lights up
but ofc if u have nothing else to press, then press bt
you press bt if theres nothing else to press
okey yeah I have the weakaura, was not sure if the 3 stacks of BC was that good that u hold BT for stacks
ok thx guys
do u think aff warlock is only at the top because of carnage?
how is fury so bad on bandit, havent seen the fight on mythic, is there something that uber screws us? or just not that great
whats this
looks like bandit mythic
I mean add damage on bandit is giga important and other specs just do it better than us
He said it in his post. "Oab" one armed bandit
Adds get dealt with better by other classes.
ah ok it's the adds got it, if only fury had s1 odyns fury back 
buffs inc 🙂↕️
ww does box damage better than thane fury and 2 target cleave you'd just play collossus
hey guys, im in a bit of a weird predicament, i want to try fury, but for the live of me i cannot get a second 2h, how much damage realistically does the offhand weapon do?
i spam m+ in arms spec, i do 3 bountifuls a day, normal and heroic raids every week, it
just
will
not
drop
at this point im considering making a 629 offhand
ya i mean higher ilvl offhand still like one of the biggest upgrades but just to try it getting a small offhand works fine enough for the moment
another weap should enter your coffers soon surely
i want to solo normal armdrassil, a 629 offhand wont matter for that surely?
ehhh i mean not sure how soloable it is since it was last expansion, doubt which weapon you use matters its prolly either just possible or not
altho did mythic amirdrassil with like 8 people and bosses still died in like 30 seconds
so normal scaled to half the players and less hp its probably doable?
yeah i soloed the first two last week
but it waas late so didnt go further, that was as prot though
and it took a whiiiiile

Mythic all bosses 99p only matters if everyone in your guild is 99ing all bosses
And even then it kinda doesn't
Different damage profiles and all that
wth do you do when simming makes no sense, every sim you run different resultts , 1 target 5 target , dungeon slice for ur vault choices
and everything is like 1-12k dps margin
is it normal to hjave stats like this ?
stats dont make sense for this class, just sim it , or try to
i mean dungeon slice is pretty different from the other two patchwerk types tho wouldnt think that affects too much gear
idk i literally cant make any sense of it anymore
and once u get high enough ilvl yea upgrades dont get as big
what ilvl
665
It's like -8% but you should stay in arms loot spec so you dont get 1h weapons
ya sounds pretty good idk, may just be you dont have super massive pieces
like i think only high profile raid items on myth sim for like 20k+ for me
not that common to get a gigantic upgrade unless ur goin from like norm/hero to max tack mythic chest or somethin
i wanted to take the radio for m plus
ive got signet of the priory and amplifier atm
ye i mean radio is like an "ok" trink
wicks golden loop
unfort no last myth slot helmet woulda been neat if didnt have
ring seems ok too yea
i think generally dungeon slice is kinda meme cuz its not super realistic in an m+ scenario i think, closest thing it simulates to might be like a +2 with a tank pulling 1-2 packs at a time xd
but yea 5tar if you want 90s for like "a cd cycle" or some ppl just stick it at 5 minutes anyway
on most encounters, the whole raid can't have 99s
but ppl also sometimes just only do st cuz generally any st gain is an aoe gain since fury aoe is just "i use my single target things and hit 4 more targets"
Sprocket, sure you could
but you won't have full 99s on Stix, you just cannibalize each other too much
do you also max currencies and sim the vault items at their hypothetical max even if u dont have the crests rn?
or should i just sim at what i currently can afford
i mean yea probably if you plan on eventually getting the crests
like long term planning rather than right this second planning
every week i just add like +90 crests when i do all that to see like if 1 item maxed is better than another item maxed for example
i see
@winter shoal thankyou very mcuh i will do that for now then
Hi fellow smashers,
is there any known issue with raidbots?
Have been getting "weird" results every now and then and just simmed what slot upgrade best to spend 30 crests on.
Result: Your currently equipped gear is the top gear
Kinda questionable i guess since theres only upgrades availalbe?!
might u link da sim
assuming you did only make sure to upgrade all the pieces by 2 levels rite
by either 1 or 2
so "base" item, +1 up, +2 up
Simple rule of thumb, for armor pieces specifically, usually always chest/helm/legs first as they just give more stats 🙂
this is understood, thanks.
I also tried simming 678 MH which should be 17k upgrade according to droptimizer
because some talent sets are old but not used
for the sim
the "active" and ST speccs are up-to-date
yea
This is half of my point
idk i just unchecked the "replace existing gem enchants" cuz thats like a ton of extra stuff
but this is what i got just comparing the gear
i think there was somethin funky going on with your gem situation which is maybe why nothing showed as an upgrade
I also sent the raw input from simc addon to a friend who got the same result as i did
like you have the algari gem selected but all other gems are of the same type
idk how significant that is or isnt
i think what's being funky is your cyrce circlet
oh
you dont have 2 gems selected in the circlet?
the first instance it shows up in the sim is like 128k minus your equipped
for some reason all your results only have 1 gem in the ring
i guess if you didnt select those gems the "replace existing" would just remove the gems yea
@gleaming siren maybe didn't translate well via text but what I meant by this was like especially on later prog bosses, people have jobs to do and they tailor their specs around doing that job, not necessarily around max parsing (i.e. playing colossus for OAB to kill reel assistants)
Colo on Bandit not a good example but I get your point
Cause Colossus is the de facto higher parsing thing right now
Yeah bad example but you get me
But yea parsing will at some level almost always require doing more damage than what your share should be
Not everyone can or should parse fiend at the same time
WIll try that, thanks
but ye the one i sent i just unchecked the box and saw the best upgrades right away but yea weapon is one of em
M+ as slayer is underrated
Did a 12 floodgate and i fucked decently
Just get procs on our only non capped skill
Nah slayer kinda beans in keys
You lose very little ST by going thane and gain a good bit esp in soft capped aoe
I've accidentally done a few keys as slayer after raid and it's always despair
Hi guys, short quick questions as i just returned to retail. Does Fury Thane Thunder Clap fully replaces WW? It does right? as it has same buff and proc of it being empowered?
Yes
You practically never use WW as Thane, unless you literally have nothing else to press
Which is exceedingly rare
I don't macro either to my CDs
It's generally not good practice to do so, and just have Roar/Ravager on their own buttons
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dwLBFuuztxPoz5G1is8fXg
Open to suggestions. I think this should be higher
You're simming without any raid buffs
Dno man i think u just doing it wrong. If is despair
With only a flask (and no other consumes for some reason?) and bshout it's fine
I thought sims by default have all raid buffs and consumes
Did that intentionally so I could practice on the dummy. My buffs are relevent to what I would have in that scenario
Right and with this in mind it's fine
struggling on the council boss already :/
just reran it with optimal, and I didn't realize it would be the equivalent of 400k. Puts me at 2.426
i.e. my group needs to recruit a shaman
if u don't fuck with any weird settings on raidbots it automatically sims with full raid buffs and consumes correct?
wooooo
any other bosses that you guys might know are gonna be trouble?
that one took 4 tries till i managed to work out how to cleave them while getting rid of the poison pools
ah you are right. it's correct to take the 678 weapon i guess from the sim. If i don't mythic raid, would it be better to grab 678 tier shoulders?
weapon is +50k dps and shoulders i just +20k
using fury MT raid build
sorry its normal, im trying it out first
nymue was easy normal
volcrfoss just went down too which a small hiccup when he knocked me in the lava and i went to 4% hp
shame the way the loot works in here, ive had 1 drop
y i always have this initializing for forever.
correct, there are checkboxes for them down with the other options at the bottom, but they should all default on
unless you're running in advanced, which you shouldn't be doing anyway without some higher working knowledge
Just downloaded the bloodthirst weakaura for the first time and im wondering if it says to hit BT but im going to overcap on rage should i hit BT or rampage
you can Rampage first, unless a buff runs out or you decide to press RB again, your crit should not change
Ty boss
likewise, you can use Bladestorm to automatically cast that Bloodthirst, so you don't always have to press it manually
Yea i was messing around with it, definitely using bloodthirst more than i did without the WA
is there any chance someone would be willing to look at a log at my most previous raid? My parse and performance is so low and would love some pointers, feel like I am trying my best to line everything up and use everything accordingly but logs are saying otherwise
Post it in #1347646810457636974
wdym
./use 15?
but i wanna macro it 😄
yeah do that in a macro
Thank you!
Working on heroic stix. Any general raid tips you guys got? Or is it as simple as the raid needs to learn not to burn stuff and prioritize the territorial Bombshells?
And I was doing slayer cleave but feeling thane might be better cause the adds are kinda spread sometimes?
ya thane usually better
For heroic shouldn’t matter as much though can do whatever feels better
but yea just kill bombshells nothing else should really be a problem
just gotta eat the big bombs with balls
dont be a chud like me and run into bombshell
Yeah we are only like 8 pulls in. But wanted to sort out the main problems early. For sure had some people hitting bombshells but sorting if thats a ball driver issue or the bombshells not being brokenfree/killed fast enough.
Dont wanna blame the wrong people.
Didnt have much issue with the big bombs but trash fires and bombshells going off was happening.
And thanks.
in heroic we were hitting 2 bombshells a set and ignoring them lol
you can heal through bombshells not bombs
Chud57
Fair. We did get to 30% in the first 8 pulls or so. Slight cleanup and should have it next week.
Any warrior specific stuff? Other than cleave what you can. Any best time for defensives or just reactionary.
pretty much just when fires come out decent time to somewhat defensive
if youre really stacked in melee it can hurt and also trash being burnt under you lava hurts
but hard to see trash under the cluster of melee and boss n shit
be me when all 10 melee stack ontop each other to pad healing
Yeah. it would help if the trash piles circle and the fire circle actually overlapped for them to light up. Feels like the trash radius is much larger than the visual
i dont follow the logic why you'd pick myth shoulders over myth wep if you dont have either
eh
kinda w/e
no
you just heal through them atp
-2 billion dps
-2 gorillion TRASH DPS (doesnt count on log)
press buttons
You mean pad the meters by focusing adds. I like reverb. Though the transition is bad
a lot of adds are just singles out in africa doing nothing
not as much pad to be gotten
unless u get lucky spawns
think the like "average" spawn is 3 near boss 1 far
sometimes u get all 4 on boss sometimes u get like 2 far away in singles
i swear had the unluckiest spawns on our kill ish
Ive only done heroic is 2-3 near boss one far. And I just ignore the far ones. Can usually cleave em
also colo does 0 damage to the adds shells above 80%
yea heroic ones die way faster and arent rly a point of contention
also not a big deal if 1 pops
u prolly die if 1 pops on mythic unless its like the first set of a phase maybe and healers g iga
too much other shit goin on usually
healers were turbo ramping i think at that time
so i almost wiped us
🙂
we are not talking about stix
are we not?
stix junkbunker
Radio Richard Resonanz
wai they switched to rik
I asked bout rikly
me when im getting aids at a baseball game
177.300 FM
richard resonanz frequenz
turtle turlte tulere
Was this a descension into madness within 3 words
i gave up because it started raining
what should i take a point out of if i want to commit to the meme and run smf
Gave up on life
does anyone have a talent build for speed farming old content?
Just use current build and make yourself a speed set
Test
failed gottem
I've enjoyed playing thane in raid the last 2 weeks as we're only a Heroic guild, is there any difference in logs for slayer vs thane, or just Fury vs Arms vs Prot?
i noticed something
in rik reverb i never get mind controlled if im using spell reflect
is that coincedence or
whats better in ToP, slayer or thunder??
always thunder
got ya. ty
I think that is functionally how it is meant to be. I also never get mc'd with spell reflect. Even my addon says "mind controlled" but it doesn't happen
I don't even get that
My screen starts to change but it never actually deactivates any ability even for a micro second
idk you probs have a shaman that pressed tremor
thats what i mean
1 micro second
screen changes
but nothing actually happens
spell reflect BiS
best defensive
better than bubble
fr fr
oops
xd
also
why is that i have 1 pull where i get a million slayer/sudden detah procs
and anothe rlike 0
just got ratfang toxin in hero track, any situation where the trinket shines ? the on use seems annoying on pull
its kinda garbanzo, do you have any other options ?
it doesnt outsim anything in ST, and is below in aoe. if there were a niche use i could make something out of it
to the trash
is that a delve trinket
yes
so Im assuming its impossible to get mythic track version of it?
rip fang gang 
I would love to swap off my champion track Mechano core but so far no dice in any decent replacement… any hero track trinkets I’ve gotten have not been worth the gilded crests to upgrade
Been a long time since i played fury, will high ping mess with the flow of it a lot? i get around 100ms due to my region and i recall having some issues with procs last expac when i played outlaw
100ms is not high
100 MS ain’t bad
love having to explain tanks why moving away from copters is the safe spot in motherlode and not just bottom left arena and them not getting it cuz they can tank the 1 shot anyways
@warm crag are we still doing arms on muggyzs
believe it or not @oblique trail can tell you if fury is meta
@oblique trail hello banezi is FURY meta
has banezi ever specced into arms
looking forward to the drinking game on sunday crit
explode
explode
explode
for mythic rik reverb should I just use m+ thane talents?
id still play slayer. thane is more sustained where slayer has a better burst profile for the bombs
storing tb procs for barrels sounds good tho
haven't tried, but it sounds like it would work
just try both, i liked thane on rik
anyone else getting d/c mid key and lag spikes?
i think it depends on your specific group
if you need more damage for barrels, thane's frankly probably better
just make sure you bank TB
I don't think there's any practical situation Thane is better than Slayer on Rik
even if nobody else is killing the barrels, there's only so long to hit them before they explode, so Thane isn't going to be getting that much sustain anyway
yeah I just started seeing everyone talk about thane being op on rik like a week ago
suddenly
if its a toss up il prob just use both
during prog
and see which one I like more
playable yes
op, na
I have started to really enjoy thane playstyle again
maybe cuz I'm not spamming m+ so much anymore
you could do well enough that if you just want to play Thane, you'll be fine
so I'm not overusing it
hey archi, if I wanted to have vicious contempt AND ww talents, what are some options of things to give up to get that? I see some top loggers have both sometimes @edgy widget
using your multitarget talent build as a base
which doesn't have vc
you could just run the regular multitarget build which does take VC
https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/fury/slayer/DAOBVUFUFQhIUIpRUBQNVVEVUZVRRSBQRCEQEFVVUBE
the one I copied from wowhead awhile ago didn't have it and I never checked for any updates. ig il copy that one and compare them
thx
Should I be hitting all raging blow procks before rampage in mythic plus or just send raging blow
*rampage
no you will typically just send rampage
its definitely not OP, the group im in just isnt doing enough to barrels
and ive done more to barrels as thane
with resilience how do u change the key tho? like if its TOP how do i change to something else?
reroll at the end of another equally lvled resilent key
darn kk
@oblique trail meow
@clever belfrymeowdy
hellow meowers
Ras vs brain cells
when yall are in an aoe pack in m+ are you prioritizing BT or RB (assuming no temporary buffs like burst of power etc)
I've been spamming BT for thunderblast procs but im wondering if thats wrong
think its fine to bt on cd for thunderblast
Something like Thunderblast > CDS > Ramp > BT > RB is what i've been doing on aoe
Any ways to sim Mister Lock-N Stalks with the aoe portion of it? it only seem to sim the single target calibration
its either the northern sky weak aura pack. or reloes individual weak aura pack
any chance fury will get buffs in .5 patch?
why would they get buffs?

is grim codex good?
its not good
what does the robot say for your specific gear
but if you dont have any better
i've got energy drink and funhouse lens rn so probably just stick to that
i feel like im getting literally no invites to 13s, takes ages. kinda sucks and idk what to do ive got all 12s timed on fury + 3 13s (dfc/rook/ML), so close to 3k but gets tiring applying for hours. am i gimping myself by playing fury? is arms better for keys? idk I like fury more just takes so dang long bc im not a uhdk/fmage/boomie lmao
ig im just tilting myself bc it took over 3 hours to get a single invite last night, but we timed the 13 so whatever right
takes along time, but its also keeping up with current rating
^
it was a 13 i already did, rook, which i didnt want to re-run
if you dont keep up in io its very hard
if u are not in meta expect load time
im like 2987 im not too far behind current, i was top 3 in mal'ganis for weeks but slowed down last week bc work
yeah just aids waiting 3 hours watching the same resil group appear only to grab meta classes and brick it and then re-appear in group finder
also depends on what dungeons you still need
fury is omega handycapped in cinder/priory
madox help me get sum ioo
ive been doing hunter keys
without an active trinket im hard greifing
surely HoC this week
imo get 3k as warrior and if u REALLY want to keep pushing i.o best to go meta unless u have friend group or dont mind waiting
also helps if you add people you find in groups
which is what? arms?
no uh
not warrior lmao
got forced off mage bc token mechanic mage in raid group and havent geared shit up besides warrior this season, ig i just flip back to fire mage for m+ fun
gearing is pretty fast you just have to grind it out
warrior is fun thats why every time i switch to another alt i just go "ahh i dont feel like learning" then go back to warrior
give lust or remove aoe cap
survival is the best class to have fun 100%
pushing io is very doable as warrior and there are multiple comps it works with
its just not really IN the meta
Reallly need your own keys after staring 14s
Cause you will rarely get invites at 15. And no invites from 16 and on lol
i want to alt but ill wait till the patch notes come out next week see if there is there is nerfs and stuff
i just read here that odyns is dogshit, and ive been using it all this time. if youre not using odyns how do you easily enrage when you need to?
i just feel like its such a big part of my macro/opening rotation that enrages me immediately and sends me in to pop all my CDs and bladestorm right after
/use Recklessness
/use Avatar
/use Charge
79 rage on opener above 80 with a single auto rampage into cds
odyns is just strait up trash rn
question friends, do we just go reck, ava, blade > blade reck > hold for reck ava blade
what is blade?
you just send CDs unless you need them for a burst window timing or they are within like 10 seconds of eachother
but i might be misunderstanding the question
oh so just pop whatever it is on CD regardless unless its really close in them lining up
yeah
I just swapped back over due to guild needs and its felt weird with anger management or whatnot
sitting on anything just means anger management gets no value
slayer fury also feels weird becuase you desync bladestorm from your reck all the time becuase of the additional cdr
yeah its really weird, I played last tier on fury, and it wasn't quite as bad
you basically send CDs on CDs as long as they get value which depends on the fights
but for ST its just cds on cd
thank you man ill do that
ok word, I appreciate that @sudden tusk also, do we hold initial CDS for after first rampage, or just send it
/use Recklessness
/use Avatar
/use Charge
start the fight with that to instantly get enough rage to rampage
then bladestorm
then Raging blow til you run out of charges or enrage falls off
then rampage and normal shit
oh no shit ok, I currently have my macro with reck and avatar, then either BS or rampage, been playing with it but nothing has felt right lmao
but macro'ing to charge makes alot of sense
whats normal shit, bc i think im realizing im lost when it comes to my rotation. is there somehwere i can look up an ideal rotation that shows priority?
wowhead should have the prio, but i'll be making a video soon on it that will help hopefully
word ty big homie
does that charge macro work with reck / ava on cd @sudden tusk
yeah personally have a seperate charge macro
but i guess you could use it as your charge if you wanted
word, I really appreciate it 😄
@sudden tusk legit that was a massive dps increase even in a pull or two just using that macro lmao
yar
mythic stix if ur on the ball can u get killed or dmg by the scrapmasters landing circle?
no
i have a question lets say u get ball and scrap master+ bomb at diamond but boss is at x after the 1st interupt after landing do yall go straight to boss or stay on it?
wut
if you have the ball you build it big, eat scrapmasters, and either roll it into a big bomb or the boss
yea but when u land across the map with the scrap master it keeps casting do u go back to the boss and fuck the scrap master to let range deal with it or just keep kicking it
go back to the boss; ranged can kick, dk can grip, and the scrap master will eventually jump towards melee anyway
ahhh kk i went back to boss and was worried that was the wrong choice
yeah, they just like to complain about it
i mean you kick your add once first
if you pop a bomb across the room
but then yea you run in and ranged ideally does the second kick
it always casts like right as you drop it
def omegatroll to insta leave your add
On raidbots, is it possible to simulate the buff that Signet of the Priory gives to my allies? It says a 6/6 Signet is worse than my 8/8 Champion trinkets.
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hh8omXXL4NwodYHhNdUcpg
I'm pretty new to simming, so let me know if I did something wrong.
Ive always assumed, I guess, that share trinkets simmed, for simplicities sake, that you just got whatever the share buff was.
To roughly represent its full effect.
You are comparing two of the strongest fury trinkets to signet, an above average trinket
This is normal
Hmm. So maybe I shouldn't use it unless other people in my party have one?
Listen brother, sim aoe and sim st
Robot is accurate
Also energy drink n mechano are really really good trinkets
But listen to sims imo
Signet is at the bottom of the top 10 trinkets for Fury, which is ok, but pretty easily replaceable
2m just doesn't line up particularly well with Warrior cds
Ye id macro it into ravager/reck instead of avatar
yalls thoughts on what weapon ishould rock
if you dont have any on use trinket maybe bis just to use it with cds sometimes
i got that stupid funhouse lense
but otherwise cap just kinda dont think about it and gg
would prolly say bis in m+ tho if you want
since cap is not gonnas tack up at all
but raid cap is aight
ilevel usually wins, but with this small of a gap it could go either way
58 is champ cap
if it could be upgraded to heroic it wouldve dropped at 665 from heroic

coming back to the game now that there's a new patch, last time i played mountain thane and it got buffed and that was the way to go, what should i be running for m+ and or raid?
thane still m+
slayer raid
aside from maybe thane is ok on bandit and good on stix
R2 enchants diabolical
Any good guides that go into the details about how the 11.1 changes affect playing fury? I've fallen from the top of the meters in raid and the parses are suggesting it's more than just fury falling down a few pegs. Went from big dog oranges down in a bad way.
Early on it's easier to parse as gear is a larger leverage
If everyone has gear playing right matters more
And getting better pulls
I meant from last season to this one
would u craft the back even if u wouldnt benefit much from it? i dunno what to do with the spark
(benefit atleast now,)
Craft belt/boots?
Just returning to the game (haven’t played since around DF S3), are there any decent guides on how to catch up to the current endgame?
I assume I need to do the whole campaign to open things up for a start
You dont have to craft yknow
Im running around with 2 crafted pieces
Yes, you need to funish campaign at least on one character to unlock WQs and i believe some quests that would reward you sparks (this i am not sure)
guys i am a bit confused is raging blow priority over bloodthirst on slayer?
you raging blow until you have at least 85% crit on bt then you prio bt
in execute you will prio BT after casting at least one raging blow which will happen with natural gameplay
got it, but isnt 75% on bt cap? or i misunderstood something
Just get the bt weakaura in #updates-midnight
Bt crit is affected by your regular crit, Reck, bloodcraze, 4p, youre not gonna track all that stuff yourself
eignops
But my sim parameters look normal otherwise?
aah cool much easier now to see
Do we have to do the mechanic on stix now that it’s removed from wcl?
should i use bloodthirst of tier set procs but its on 44% for example? or i still buil to 85%
Happens in VC range
So with both bt and sd wa’s sd takes prio over bt right?
Also any opinion on https://wago.io/r8u4tHLRQ vs https://wago.io/0uI91uATk
Wago.io is a database of sharable World of Warcraft addon elements
Based on Fury Slayer SD Conditions "https://wago.io/r8u4tHLRQ" Trigger Conditions for Fury Slayer when Execut
rik is such a fury fight holy lawd
nwm i take it back, logs show its just my guild range are shi
t
how much crit should we have ?
No set amount. We sim topgear
it say i should craft crit haste neck 😄
I have a very important question to ask. Do you guys have a preferred transmog when you play Slayer vs when you play Thane?
no?
unfortunate
just seems like unnecessary faffing around
lookin good is always necessary
Ahh yes, unlike everything else we throw questionable ammount of time at in this video game 
@unfortunate 
real
where @unfortunate
@player still around?
he pretends to quit all the time now, so he might disappear some day
bro probably sleeps through quitting his wow sub again and is trapped foranother 4months
its over
joewari da

secret discord hacks
remembering names of people
Imagine
unfortunate
Not ancient hack any%
remembering discord names of people > remembering when your wow sub runs out and have to pay for another 4months
phil heute burger?
Nah i had a croque
@river reef once i come home i can start new run cookie clicker
I mean ascend

Uheldigt
@mossy fox do you share your WA in any way? I am looking to update my setup and i like what you’ve got running
Yo! Newbie question, is there any target limit cutoff when u prioritize RB over BT for Thunderblast proccs as M+ multitarget rotation?
More than 5 enemies -> BT for
procs, otherwise RB with the usual BT crit rules
Ty guys!
You can just prioritize BT in >=2 targets as a simplification
So to sum it up, any cleave scenario BT w/o TB procc?
Its a very minor dps loss until 5 targets but simplifies the rotation a lot
Not often there are only 2 targets, so it helps a lot. Kind of overwhelmed jumping back since BFA, gonna try to get to 3k.
Hi all, recently came back to the game. I have (surely) a stupid question, reason I ask you the more savvy theorycrafters.
I have 2p season one at 639ilvl shoulders and legs.
And 2p season two 662 head and 655 chest.
I have 649 off tier shoulders and legs I could catalyst.
When simming, the 2p season one 639ilvl shows as better than 4p season 2.
Should I trust this or just go for 649 shoulders and chest to complete the 4p season 2?
Thanks in advance ❤️
Our tier sucks trust sims
Your Guildies hates you
Link sim
Hey guys, what is considered a good ST damage using MT?
Nah, they don't just bit misinformed thats all.
Will sim fast and link
but u already simmed
old 2pc is rly strong, you'll likely need more ilvl for current 4pc to pull ahead
simmed last night, close that tab.
If you're logged in, there's a history tab
nw, I pay for raidbots
Or just use your browsers history tab
ah ok
eh now it shows that 4p season 2 is better?
huh
it didnt last night
same items
confused

You most likely didnt sim catalyzed shoulder/legs
Last nights here: https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9kiUmsJ6e3K4YjwQn4sFez
as u can see, i did choose to catalyst shoulders and legs last night too
brb
❤️
I don't see the shoulders and pants on last nights
Am I blind
I am blind
I didn't scroll enough lmao
I think
u selected option
that forces it always to have
2pc of old tier
equipped
King
Unless it's the one setting that doesn't get saved when pressing run sim again, it doesn't seem to be the case
There were enough in both
cuz there is not one option where the sim catalyzed shoulders and legs
@oblique trail
Either way it’s barely enough to care equip your gear and get back in your dungeons King
@lost saffron
Nice profile picture
thank you, you too with your ai slop
Call me by my real name
10k dps is 10k dps bro.
tophenberg
RickTOPHen
actually nice ai art @lost saffron
very inspiring
il cacto hippoppotomo
Thanks brother.
new tweet - popular streamer critcake approves of AI art

Thanks all who looked.
Did you turn out italian?
I think you would be
noooo
I cannot consider myself acquainted anymore with Critcake after reading this
Blie
blub blub octopussi
nooooooooooooo
Blue
Critcake cancelled
why
Remove critcake yellow and pink roles now
When critcake blue
Using AI in public online places as a social media influencer leads to cancellation
When Toph Yellow
Critcake orange
gg it's over
Now gz
it does look good, though the discourse around AI art is not one that I'm overly interested in wading into
@mossy fox I've always liked your videos, very informative. Have you made one for Fury spell priority?
idk it interpreted gray nelf skin with red eyes different i guess
@mossy fox I do no dps in my keys, what am I doing wrong?
you're grouping with unholy dk, fire mage, balance druids, ret paladins, and they're stealing all your dammies
But but but.. we have the fury priority list
that's why I only group with non-meta classes to make myself look better 
i have not
5x30
last time i hopped on runescape was when i was like 12
can't be that long ago, he's a baby


Yo archi what boss are you on atm?
Are you rerolling warlock?




