#fury

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sullen dove
chilly fractal
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its not even an upgrade until Tuesday when I have the 15 crests to cap it out

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lol

sour frigate
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big stick is big stick

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💪

sinful spoke
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I call end of april or early may

edgy widget
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there has been no sign of them in 11.1.5

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so I wouldn't bet on it

summer quail
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There is a .7 patch right? Prob then if so

sullen dove
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the classic blizz dev play of "we'll promise something at a point in time, ok jk here's when they're actually coming out" then they announce the patch and say "wow look at all this cool stuff youre getting thats not what you want!"

chilly fractal
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My favorite was the “we looked at the calendar” post

sinful spoke
ivory ingot
ivory ingot
frosty oasis
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Do you think it's worth crafting gloves or waist? I have those two at champion track still and cloak/bracers are both hero

sour frigate
frosty oasis
limber flint
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I have a question regarding Mountain thane M+ first pull BL. I have read multiple guides on the rotation prio when you're in it, but I'm kinda confused which way of doing it is most optimal going in with 0 rage.

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Do i use Ravager, charge, reck+avatar, Rampage, thundering roar, thunder blast?

unreal onyx
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Reck-> charge+tc-> ramp

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Reck+ charge gives enough to insta-ramp

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I usually reck-> charge with tc then ramp to insta hit 5t with ramp

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Rav into roar

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Not sure if that is the best way tho, feels like it is to me

limber flint
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I tried playing arms, I did better dmgwise, but i hated the desyncs of CDs and demolish cast.

unreal onyx
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Well, arms is better in 5+t aoe

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Bc no target cap

radiant plank
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arms just does it all better

unreal onyx
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Not CDs

limber flint
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I feel like fury is just more fun.

next ruin
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Fury 🔛 🔝

gleaming siren
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Arms is a dog spec

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🐶

sour frigate
royal copper
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Is it possible to make or have a WA that;

Shows Rampage IF Whirlwind is up?

clever belfry
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you want it to display rampage (if you have rage to press it) while you have ww stacks?

clever belfry
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if so, that is possible
i would not make that tho, just have a reasonable rage bar / ramp tracker and a WW tracker

royal copper
clever belfry
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ok then your UI is just setup badly

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also WW you should just get a feel for at some point

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you will know when to WW

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just cause X globals have passed

royal copper
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Back to my question..

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How do i do that then?

clever belfry
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ive already given you the answer

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i am not willing to provide bad solutions so gl

royal copper
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YOur opinion is not the answer.

clever belfry
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your question was if its possible

slim coral
clever belfry
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i gave you that answer straight away

royal copper
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yes, and now im asking.. how?

radiant plank
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create a blank wa

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make trigger 1 track ww buff

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trigger 2 rampage action usable

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go conditions and add a show condition on trigger 2 if trigger 1 true

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👍

royal copper
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Bless you - thanks ! ❤️

radiant plank
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Weakaura literacy is dead 🥀

royal copper
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Works flawless - only shows Rampage when within' whirlwind. (Only issue that wrong icon picture, not sure if that can be changed?)

sour frigate
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Yes

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Icon settings on the first page

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Dunno why would u need such wa tho its weird okayge

royal copper
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Testing something out ^^

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Here right?

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OH! OH yes! perfect - thanks alot

unreal onyx
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Tracking tset buff?

royal copper
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Yes, the thing below is.

unreal onyx
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Also you have your we trcker smackdab in the middle and easily readable, imo not really possible to miss that

unreal onyx
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If you wanna track ramp with ww, why not rb, bt or exe?

royal copper
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AoE matter compared to Tset - only reason i got this thing to keep track of that.

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as i said . testing something out here 🙂

sour frigate
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He is cooking..

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🔥 👩‍🍳

royal copper
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Exaclty ^^ not sure what im cooking here..

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but its something.. i guess ^^

fading sky
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Man slayer in raid

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is so much more fun as fury than arms

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its not even close

royal copper
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Slayers in raid should be pretty good according to Archon.

fading sky
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im 99% of the time an arms enjoyer

jade cipher
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GUYS i want to buy subscription for riadbots

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what is swiftsim?

clever belfry
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just gives it more cores -> faster computation time

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but the biggest draw of subbing is getting to skip the queue

jade cipher
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yeah but i think second option is best, first one 2m itteration i dont like it

grizzled mulch
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lads is it worth it to run eye of kezan in m+? sims shows it do well but in game i don't think im using it to its fullest protentional

jade cipher
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its bad when stacks drop

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its compettetive when it doesnt, i personally wouldnt

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on fury i am using house of cards and floodgate trinket, very practical and good

grizzled mulch
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i see, i guess i'll be swaping it with sigent for the time being till i get my hands on the bandit trinket

jade cipher
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i suggest you farming delves for trinket

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Mechano core ampiflier. energy drink and lens are all good trinkets on heroic track

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i personally wouldnt use 2 min trinket on warrior

white relic
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would you rather use mass destruction or precision blsting from lock -n-stalk in m+? or a different trinket? stalk with cards sims atm best for me in single target.

cold gulch
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Personally I got that on mythic and I think you should use it purely on ST fights, for aoe you are better off using some proc trinket

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On top of that it only gives you haste while the other proc trinket would give you like 4.5k str as flat stats on top of a proc effect

white relic
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my other options are pacemaker hero and mechano core/energy drink on champion. maybe pacemaker then for m+?

cold gulch
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I think I'm running both of them (pacemaker and mechano) for fury and arms

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I did not bother to farm energy drink and mechano is normal track 658 max ilvl

wheat nimbus
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Hello warriors ! i have a question, i think i don't use well my tier set bonuses, i look at some warcraft log best warriors on each bosses in HM mode, i saw they use very often 4 bloodthirst in a row in their rotation which i don't do, i want to know why they do 4 bloodthirst in a row, is it because of the tier set bonuses ? is it for something else ? i want to understand because i clearly don't use bloodthirst so often... thank you

jade cipher
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and it shows as you casting the spell

wheat nimbus
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aaaaah yes indeed

fickle cedar
wheat nimbus
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damn i'm stupid sorry

jade cipher
# wheat nimbus damn i'm stupid sorry

look your tier set doesnt change your rotation one bit. but there is a weak aura for bloodthirst that takes most conditions for bloodthirst into consideration including your tier piece

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i suggest you use it

wheat nimbus
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well something is wrong tho in my rota or something because when i see first warrior 666 ilv 4M overall on the first boss in HC, my best is 2M8 with 665 on the same boss

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i mean i'm not the best war in the world i know but i thought i could approach them at least and i'm far from that huge perfs

fading sky
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i mean

fading sky
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m8

fading sky
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u shouldnt care

wheat nimbus
fading sky
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if its sprocket, and u have same timers as them and equal gear

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do sim c if u are close to ya sim

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if u are be happ

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y

wheat nimbus
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on second boss one warrior is at 2M6 overall with 663 ilv i'm at 2M1 with 3 ilv more 🥲

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3rd rick reverb, i end up 1M7 on my best (still 665 ilv) some warriors here end up 2M4 and 2M5 with 661 and 662 ilv that's crazy

rare garnet
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almost surely an APM or uptime issue, i just smash my face on the keyboard and dont track anything, stick to boss, smash shiny button

wheat nimbus
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oh by the way i have an other question for you guys, my Raid leader use an addon call Heikili and he is a real goat of wow , an addon that show your rotation in live etc is it a good addon or it's bullshit ?

rare garnet
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can be good for learning new classes, fury feels face roll enough it'll just make you overthink

sour frigate
fickle cedar
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there's not too much things to track as fury anyway, with some decent ui and couple of WA you're good to go

fickle cedar
high echo
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What're you guys stat distribution like (665+)?

unreal onyx
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Pure ST bosses are the most consistent indicators of performance imo

wheat nimbus
unreal onyx
sour frigate
high echo
sour frigate
high echo
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Mostly because I'm switching over from arms so I wanted to see as an outline

sour frigate
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Only outline is u need a bit more mastery

unreal onyx
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For me mastery>haste>vers>crit but idk the %

high echo
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Clearly

unreal onyx
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Like 53 20 16 11 or so for me, but those are just guesstimates

radiant plank
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19 23 51 7

clever belfry
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7

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7

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7

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7

rare garnet
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WINNER!!

radiant plank
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wrong 7

fervent yoke
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My guilds started alt runs now and I haven’t had time to play / learn other toons.. thinking of making another warrior lol

coarse nest
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MM pipes

sour frigate
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:aimed_shot: pipes

earnest canyon
fickle cedar
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I was planning on leveling an mm hunter, it has no pet right ?

earnest canyon
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not unless u want it (its better without)

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they let u have it but its like SMF for warrior.....a flavor thing noone takes and dps loss

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it just goes BBBrrrrrrt

fickle cedar
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nice, I'm gonna play it then, missed playing hunter

thick fossil
oblique trail
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@clever belfry balls alert, balls alert, you are balls

whole yacht
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I've always enjoyed mm more than the other 2

sour frigate
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Yepp

thick fossil
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BM is a snore fest, survival is kinda fun though.

feral ivy
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are guilds stopping re-clears at bandit or after?

oblique trail
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Depends entirely on the guild

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If you raid 2 days, a single day of reclear can eat up most of an entire day of prog depending on how clean you are with reclears

feral ivy
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ah true true

oblique trail
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But as a 3 day guild, you are more likely to just reclear at Bandit, and then first extend after killing Bandit

feral ivy
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we are 3 day and did heroic skip and killed all the way to stix

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and still progging stix

oblique trail
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Then I think you're more than fine in still just thinking about reclears

thick fossil
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We just beat mythic Stix last night, and we're still planning on re-clearing most. Just in a different order.

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Thankfully the skip drops you right in front of OaB now.

barren dagger
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I have a question. I’ve crafted a 675 weapon with ascendance but now have a 678 vault weapon. Why is my sim telling me to MH the 675 weapon?

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Do i just ignore it and use 678 in MH?

earnest canyon
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er the 675

static pewter
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don't you always want the highest ilvl weapon to be on your MH ?

earnest canyon
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usually, but i cant see his sim

tepid cedar
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Stats shouldn’t matter. You want your highest raw dps weapon on your main hand

earnest canyon
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then idk whats going on with his sim

tepid cedar
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Which is your highest ilvl one

earnest canyon
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I figured that only 3 ilevels might be the problem if it has like crit and vers

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and his crafted has haste mastery, but again, idk

quiet geyser
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Why would that matter

tepid cedar
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That didn’t matter stats are added from both weapons

quiet geyser
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You get full use of the stats no matter what hand its in

tepid cedar
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You can’t add the 300 damage from 675 to 678

earnest canyon
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idk, something seems weird so just trying to think of scenarios where it would make sense

tepid cedar
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Or whatever the number is

sour frigate
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U dont get full value from dps stat

tepid cedar
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Not from dps

sour frigate
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That is the most affecting

tepid cedar
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But you get 2nd

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Stats

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Raw damage is only true to mainland

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Offhand it’s 50% I think

quiet geyser
earnest canyon
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holy sht there are like 20 people called Robin

earnest canyon
high echo
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right?

warm crag
earnest canyon
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if the ilevel diff is big enough crit vers can be better

thick fossil
# high echo raidbots stats?

The image is just what my current stats are. I use raidbots to sim. I don't follow any breakpoints, hence why the spread is so wild. Lol

high echo
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yeah

thick fossil
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I have 8% speed from my gems as well.

earnest canyon
thick fossil
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Blame your ISP! Lol

earnest canyon
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Nah my ISP is fine, im just shite lol

forest owl
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what is the proc rate of mechano amplifier? just had it proc once in a 3.5min fight

modest condor
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way higher than that

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sounds like you were only looking at one of the buffs

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sometimes your highest or lowest stat can change during combat, that can cause mechano core to occasionally give a different buff

quiet breach
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I need to see what some of these ppl who have whirlwind talents AND vicious contempt are giving up. do u guys usually run both?

forest owl
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nah i checked logs it definitely only procced once the entire fight, oh well rng i guess

modest condor
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link the log

forest owl
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not really bothered too much about it, just seemed like a low uptime, was curious what the actual rppm is

modest condor
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you did get unlucky because in my experience average uptime is like 35-40%, but that's not 1 proc

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that's 5 procs

forest owl
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oh wait it was thrown into uncategorized buffs thats why i wasnt seeing anything else i was just checking buffs at top

modest condor
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yeah

gleaming siren
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One of them is the highest stat buff one is lowest stat

modest condor
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no it depends on which stat it gives

gleaming siren
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Well

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most often will be

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one of 2

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There's 4 different buffs tho technically yea

gleaming siren
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I explode

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caught lacking

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!

modest condor
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it's specifically the crit buff that goes in uncategorized

forest owl
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yeah good to know now, i had been seeing wild uptimes fight to fight but didnt know the crits were chucked into the bottom of the page lol

south kayak
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we need buffs

shell jackal
clever belfry
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ew

shell jackal
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its better than nothing critcake

earnest canyon
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what does that luck even do

clever belfry
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makes elf special jump anims (flips, spins) always happen

earnest canyon
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lol

shell jackal
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can confirm, am elf, just got 30 in a row. dont @ me

blazing kindle
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Just wanted to clarify a part of the fury priority list really quick - After bladestorm you spam raging blow regardless of rage cap to buff rampage right? Then outside of that window rampage as soon as I can or rampage at >100 rage? And then bloodthirst > raging blow if it has 3+ stacks?

flat river
modest hollow
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Does it matter which wep is in main/off hand? crafted 675 vs m+ 678

chilly fractal
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Yes

sand crest
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higher ilvl in main hand always

modest hollow
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sir yes sir

stuck spindle
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Yo do you only BT when you have 3 stacks of BC or VC, or do you send BT if rage starved to get a button in before raging blows etc come back up?

gilded pawn
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both

sand crest
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best thing is to get the WA and bt when it lights up

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but ofc if u have nothing else to press, then press bt

gilded pawn
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you press bt if theres nothing else to press

stuck spindle
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okey yeah I have the weakaura, was not sure if the 3 stacks of BC was that good that u hold BT for stacks

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ok thx guys

sand crest
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rb gives bc stacks and sls stacks

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too strong not to spam

feral ivy
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do u think aff warlock is only at the top because of carnage?

radiant plank
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and oab

forest owl
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how is fury so bad on bandit, havent seen the fight on mythic, is there something that uber screws us? or just not that great

feral ivy
forest owl
rigid stirrup
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I mean add damage on bandit is giga important and other specs just do it better than us

whole yacht
whole yacht
forest owl
tawdry drum
warm crag
viscid oxide
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hey guys, im in a bit of a weird predicament, i want to try fury, but for the live of me i cannot get a second 2h, how much damage realistically does the offhand weapon do?

i spam m+ in arms spec, i do 3 bountifuls a day, normal and heroic raids every week, it
just
will
not

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drop

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at this point im considering making a 629 offhand

sullen dove
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ya i mean higher ilvl offhand still like one of the biggest upgrades but just to try it getting a small offhand works fine enough for the moment

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another weap should enter your coffers soon surely

viscid oxide
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i want to solo normal armdrassil, a 629 offhand wont matter for that surely?

sullen dove
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ehhh i mean not sure how soloable it is since it was last expansion, doubt which weapon you use matters its prolly either just possible or not

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altho did mythic amirdrassil with like 8 people and bosses still died in like 30 seconds

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so normal scaled to half the players and less hp its probably doable?

viscid oxide
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yeah i soloed the first two last week

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but it waas late so didnt go further, that was as prot though

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and it took a whiiiiile

sullen dove
winter shoal
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And even then it kinda doesn't

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Different damage profiles and all that

viscid oxide
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is smf still an asbolute meme?

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cause i got heroic capos and wise guy xD

opal monolith
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wth do you do when simming makes no sense, every sim you run different resultts , 1 target 5 target , dungeon slice for ur vault choices

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and everything is like 1-12k dps margin

reef plinth
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is it normal to hjave stats like this ?

opal monolith
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stats dont make sense for this class, just sim it , or try to

sullen dove
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i mean dungeon slice is pretty different from the other two patchwerk types tho wouldnt think that affects too much gear

opal monolith
sullen dove
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and once u get high enough ilvl yea upgrades dont get as big

opal monolith
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yes

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i think its just that

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the margins are so small

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idk honestly

sullen dove
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what ilvl

opal monolith
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665

winter shoal
sullen dove
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ya sounds pretty good idk, may just be you dont have super massive pieces

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like i think only high profile raid items on myth sim for like 20k+ for me

opal monolith
sullen dove
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not that common to get a gigantic upgrade unless ur goin from like norm/hero to max tack mythic chest or somethin

opal monolith
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i wanted to take the radio for m plus

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ive got signet of the priory and amplifier atm

sullen dove
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ye i mean radio is like an "ok" trink

gusty sleet
sullen dove
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unfort no last myth slot helmet woulda been neat if didnt have

opal monolith
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right

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let me run one more sim

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but what should i run

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for m plus

sullen dove
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ring seems ok too yea

opal monolith
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ill link result

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dungeon slice or 5t 1m30?

sullen dove
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i think generally dungeon slice is kinda meme cuz its not super realistic in an m+ scenario i think, closest thing it simulates to might be like a +2 with a tank pulling 1-2 packs at a time xd

opal monolith
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right haha

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so go with 5 targets patchwerk 1m30? or just ST?

sullen dove
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but yea 5tar if you want 90s for like "a cd cycle" or some ppl just stick it at 5 minutes anyway

gleaming siren
sullen dove
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but ppl also sometimes just only do st cuz generally any st gain is an aoe gain since fury aoe is just "i use my single target things and hit 4 more targets"

gleaming siren
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Sprocket, sure you could

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but you won't have full 99s on Stix, you just cannibalize each other too much

opal monolith
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or should i just sim at what i currently can afford

sullen dove
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i mean yea probably if you plan on eventually getting the crests

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like long term planning rather than right this second planning

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every week i just add like +90 crests when i do all that to see like if 1 item maxed is better than another item maxed for example

opal monolith
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i see

viscid oxide
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@winter shoal thankyou very mcuh i will do that for now then

cobalt scroll
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Hi fellow smashers,
is there any known issue with raidbots?

Have been getting "weird" results every now and then and just simmed what slot upgrade best to spend 30 crests on.
Result: Your currently equipped gear is the top gear

Kinda questionable i guess since theres only upgrades availalbe?!

sullen dove
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might u link da sim

sullen dove
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assuming you did only make sure to upgrade all the pieces by 2 levels rite

cobalt scroll
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so "base" item, +1 up, +2 up

quiet geyser
sullen dove
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whys it sayin out of date talents

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when i try to click the sim again

cobalt scroll
cobalt scroll
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for the sim

sullen dove
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o not all of em

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ye the like bunch at the bottom

cobalt scroll
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the "active" and ST speccs are up-to-date

sullen dove
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yea

winter shoal
sullen dove
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idk i just unchecked the "replace existing gem enchants" cuz thats like a ton of extra stuff

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but this is what i got just comparing the gear

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i think there was somethin funky going on with your gem situation which is maybe why nothing showed as an upgrade

cobalt scroll
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I also sent the raw input from simc addon to a friend who got the same result as i did

sullen dove
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like you have the algari gem selected but all other gems are of the same type

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idk how significant that is or isnt

modest condor
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i think what's being funky is your cyrce circlet

sullen dove
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oh

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you dont have 2 gems selected in the circlet?

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the first instance it shows up in the sim is like 128k minus your equipped

modest condor
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for some reason all your results only have 1 gem in the ring

sullen dove
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i guess if you didnt select those gems the "replace existing" would just remove the gems yea

winter shoal
# winter shoal Different damage profiles and all that

@gleaming siren maybe didn't translate well via text but what I meant by this was like especially on later prog bosses, people have jobs to do and they tailor their specs around doing that job, not necessarily around max parsing (i.e. playing colossus for OAB to kill reel assistants)

gleaming siren
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Cause Colossus is the de facto higher parsing thing right now

winter shoal
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Yeah bad example but you get me

gleaming siren
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But yea parsing will at some level almost always require doing more damage than what your share should be

winter shoal
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Not everyone can or should parse fiend at the same time

gleaming siren
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and on adds that share is very limited

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generally

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yea

sullen dove
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but ye the one i sent i just unchecked the box and saw the best upgrades right away but yea weapon is one of em

fading sky
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M+ as slayer is underrated

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Did a 12 floodgate and i fucked decently

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Just get procs on our only non capped skillkeks

winter shoal
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Nah slayer kinda beans in keys

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You lose very little ST by going thane and gain a good bit esp in soft capped aoe

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I've accidentally done a few keys as slayer after raid and it's always despair

south kayak
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anyone else get this SLOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW update?

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WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS

golden hawk
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Hi guys, short quick questions as i just returned to retail. Does Fury Thane Thunder Clap fully replaces WW? It does right? as it has same buff and proc of it being empowered?

oblique trail
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Yes

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You practically never use WW as Thane, unless you literally have nothing else to press

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Which is exceedingly rare

golden hawk
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ty

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u use TR in burst macro or Ravager? one of the 2 is a separate cast.

oblique trail
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I don't macro either to my CDs

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It's generally not good practice to do so, and just have Roar/Ravager on their own buttons

lusty sand
oblique trail
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You're simming without any raid buffs

fading sky
oblique trail
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With only a flask (and no other consumes for some reason?) and bshout it's fine

quiet breach
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I thought sims by default have all raid buffs and consumes

lusty sand
oblique trail
viscid oxide
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struggling on the council boss already :/

lusty sand
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i.e. my group needs to recruit a shaman

quiet breach
viscid oxide
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wooooo

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any other bosses that you guys might know are gonna be trouble?

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that one took 4 tries till i managed to work out how to cleave them while getting rid of the poison pools

slim coral
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is this on mythic?

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if so idk if you'll be able to pass nymue

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atleast solo

barren dagger
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weapon is +50k dps and shoulders i just +20k

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using fury MT raid build

viscid oxide
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sorry its normal, im trying it out first

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nymue was easy normal

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volcrfoss just went down too which a small hiccup when he knocked me in the lava and i went to 4% hp

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shame the way the loot works in here, ive had 1 drop

chrome summit
viscid oxide
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fyrakk might be a problem 😦

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yeah cant do it withough dispel, well thats over

edgy widget
jaunty shore
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Just downloaded the bloodthirst weakaura for the first time and im wondering if it says to hit BT but im going to overcap on rage should i hit BT or rampage

edgy widget
#

you can Rampage first, unless a buff runs out or you decide to press RB again, your crit should not change

jaunty shore
#

Ty boss

edgy widget
#

likewise, you can use Bladestorm to automatically cast that Bloodthirst, so you don't always have to press it manually

jaunty shore
#

Yea i was messing around with it, definitely using bloodthirst more than i did without the WA

wide sedge
#

is there any chance someone would be willing to look at a log at my most previous raid? My parse and performance is so low and would love some pointers, feel like I am trying my best to line everything up and use everything accordingly but logs are saying otherwise

trail locust
#

how do you bind Best in Slots in offhand?

#

whats the macro ?

smoky vale
#

wdym

trail locust
#

./use 15?

smoky vale
#

put it in the item slot or use the item?

#

you could just do /use shift click the item

trail locust
#

but i wanna macro it 😄

smoky vale
#

yeah do that in a macro

wide sedge
marble pilot
#

Working on heroic stix. Any general raid tips you guys got? Or is it as simple as the raid needs to learn not to burn stuff and prioritize the territorial Bombshells?

#

And I was doing slayer cleave but feeling thane might be better cause the adds are kinda spread sometimes?

sullen dove
#

ya thane usually better

#

For heroic shouldn’t matter as much though can do whatever feels better

#

but yea just kill bombshells nothing else should really be a problem

#

just gotta eat the big bombs with balls

smoky vale
#

dont be a chud like me and run into bombshell

marble pilot
#

Yeah we are only like 8 pulls in. But wanted to sort out the main problems early. For sure had some people hitting bombshells but sorting if thats a ball driver issue or the bombshells not being brokenfree/killed fast enough.
Dont wanna blame the wrong people.
Didnt have much issue with the big bombs but trash fires and bombshells going off was happening.

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And thanks.

smoky vale
#

in heroic we were hitting 2 bombshells a set and ignoring them lol

#

you can heal through bombshells not bombs

gleaming siren
smoky vale
#

bro schmidi

marble pilot
#

Fair. We did get to 30% in the first 8 pulls or so. Slight cleanup and should have it next week.
Any warrior specific stuff? Other than cleave what you can. Any best time for defensives or just reactionary.

smoky vale
#

i never hit a bombshell the entirety of prog and then the pull we kill it i hit one

sullen dove
#

pretty much just when fires come out decent time to somewhat defensive

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if youre really stacked in melee it can hurt and also trash being burnt under you lava hurts

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but hard to see trash under the cluster of melee and boss n shit

smoky vale
#

be me when all 10 melee stack ontop each other to pad healing

marble pilot
#

Yeah. it would help if the trash piles circle and the fire circle actually overlapped for them to light up. Feels like the trash radius is much larger than the visual

warm crag
gleaming siren
#

kinda w/e

#

no

#

you just heal through them atp

warm crag
gleaming siren
#

-2 gorillion TRASH DPS (doesnt count on log)

fading sky
#

On rik tomorrow

#

Any tips

warm crag
#

press buttons

sullen dove
#

be the slave to focus adds

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because your raid will not

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and pray for good spawns

marble pilot
#

You mean pad the meters by focusing adds. I like reverb. Though the transition is bad

sullen dove
#

a lot of adds are just singles out in africa doing nothing

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not as much pad to be gotten

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unless u get lucky spawns

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think the like "average" spawn is 3 near boss 1 far

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sometimes u get all 4 on boss sometimes u get like 2 far away in singles

smoky vale
#

i swear had the unluckiest spawns on our kill ish

marble pilot
#

Ive only done heroic is 2-3 near boss one far. And I just ignore the far ones. Can usually cleave em

smoky vale
#

also colo does 0 damage to the adds shells above 80%

sullen dove
#

yea heroic ones die way faster and arent rly a point of contention

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also not a big deal if 1 pops

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u prolly die if 1 pops on mythic unless its like the first set of a phase maybe and healers g iga

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too much other shit goin on usually

smoky vale
#

so i almost wiped us

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🙂

sullen dove
#

we are not talking about stix

smoky vale
#

are we not?

warm crag
#

stix junkbunker

gleaming siren
#

Radio Richard Resonanz

smoky vale
#

wai they switched to rik

sullen dove
#

gokke said rik

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and started talkin bout that

fading sky
#

I asked bout rikly

smoky vale
#

me when im getting aids at a baseball game

gleaming siren
warm crag
smoky vale
gleaming siren
#

Was this a descension into madness within 3 words

smoky vale
#

i gave up because it started raining

analog magnet
#

what should i take a point out of if i want to commit to the meme and run smf

gleaming siren
#

Gave up on life

clever path
#

does anyone have a talent build for speed farming old content?

tepid cedar
#

Just use current build and make yourself a speed set

silk wharf
#

Test

marble pilot
#

failed gottem

sage smelt
#

I've enjoyed playing thane in raid the last 2 weeks as we're only a Heroic guild, is there any difference in logs for slayer vs thane, or just Fury vs Arms vs Prot?

flat river
#

i noticed something

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in rik reverb i never get mind controlled if im using spell reflect

#

is that coincedence or

vague fern
#

whats better in ToP, slayer or thunder??

flat river
#

always thunder

vague fern
#

got ya. ty

flat river
#

slayer is 15% behind

#

give or take depending on the dungeon and key level

whole yacht
# flat river is that coincedence or

I think that is functionally how it is meant to be. I also never get mc'd with spell reflect. Even my addon says "mind controlled" but it doesn't happen

flat river
#

yeah same

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i get like 1 micro second of mind control

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then it gets removed

whole yacht
#

I don't even get that

#

My screen starts to change but it never actually deactivates any ability even for a micro second

warm crag
#

idk you probs have a shaman that pressed tremor

flat river
#

1 micro second

#

screen changes

#

but nothing actually happens

#

spell reflect BiS

#

best defensive

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better than bubble

#

fr fr

#

oops

#

xd

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also

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why is that i have 1 pull where i get a million slayer/sudden detah procs

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and anothe rlike 0

tawdry drum
#

anyone using odyns fury

#

such a cool spell

remote bobcat
#

its bad

#

so no

tawdry drum
#

😦

#

sad

next ruin
#

just got ratfang toxin in hero track, any situation where the trinket shines ? the on use seems annoying on pull

fickle cedar
next ruin
#

it doesnt outsim anything in ST, and is below in aoe. if there were a niche use i could make something out of it

#

to the trash

next ruin
#

yes

quiet breach
# next ruin yes

so Im assuming its impossible to get mythic track version of it?

remote bobcat
#

delve trinkets dont exist as mythic

#

ye

quiet breach
#

rip fang gang sadga

chilly fractal
#

I would love to swap off my champion track Mechano core but so far no dice in any decent replacement… any hero track trinkets I’ve gotten have not been worth the gilded crests to upgrade

green ibex
#

Been a long time since i played fury, will high ping mess with the flow of it a lot? i get around 100ms due to my region and i recall having some issues with procs last expac when i played outlaw

earnest canyon
#

100ms is not high

chilly fractal
#

100 MS ain’t bad

kind bolt
#

love having to explain tanks why moving away from copters is the safe spot in motherlode and not just bottom left arena and them not getting it cuz they can tank the 1 shot anyways

solemn plover
#

@warm crag are we still doing arms on muggyzs

warm crag
solemn plover
#

@oblique trail hello banezi is FURY meta

covert blaze
#

has banezi ever specced into arms

mossy fox
#

benzai did play arms on mugzee

#

he highly enjoyed juggernaut casino i heard

summer quail
#

looking forward to the drinking game on sunday crit

oblique trail
oblique trail
quiet breach
#

for mythic rik reverb should I just use m+ thane talents?

sudden tusk
#

id still play slayer. thane is more sustained where slayer has a better burst profile for the bombs

next ruin
#

storing tb procs for barrels sounds good tho

#

haven't tried, but it sounds like it would work

summer quail
#

just try both, i liked thane on rik

feral ivy
#

anyone else getting d/c mid key and lag spikes?

red berry
#

i think it depends on your specific group

#

if you need more damage for barrels, thane's frankly probably better

#

just make sure you bank TB

edgy widget
#

I don't think there's any practical situation Thane is better than Slayer on Rik

#

even if nobody else is killing the barrels, there's only so long to hit them before they explode, so Thane isn't going to be getting that much sustain anyway

quiet breach
#

suddenly

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if its a toss up il prob just use both

#

during prog

#

and see which one I like more

edgy widget
#

playable yes
op, na

quiet breach
#

I have started to really enjoy thane playstyle again

#

maybe cuz I'm not spamming m+ so much anymore

edgy widget
#

you could do well enough that if you just want to play Thane, you'll be fine

quiet breach
#

so I'm not overusing it

edgy widget
#

there are a few good logs up

#

but it's definitely not as good as Slayer

quiet breach
#

hey archi, if I wanted to have vicious contempt AND ww talents, what are some options of things to give up to get that? I see some top loggers have both sometimes @edgy widget

#

using your multitarget talent build as a base

#

which doesn't have vc

edgy widget
quiet breach
#

the one I copied from wowhead awhile ago didn't have it and I never checked for any updates. ig il copy that one and compare them

#

thx

wooden scarab
#

Should I be hitting all raging blow procks before rampage in mythic plus or just send raging blow

#

*rampage

edgy widget
#

no you will typically just send rampage

red berry
#

its definitely not OP, the group im in just isnt doing enough to barrels

#

and ive done more to barrels as thane

feral ivy
#

with resilience how do u change the key tho? like if its TOP how do i change to something else?

kind bolt
#

reroll at the end of another equally lvled resilent key

feral ivy
#

darn kk

clever belfry
#

@oblique trail meow

oblique trail
#

@clever belfrymeowdy

left perch
#

hellow meowers

clever belfry
#

mr 8 determ stacks

#

olly molly

left perch
#

Ras vs brain cells

charred estuary
#

when yall are in an aoe pack in m+ are you prioritizing BT or RB (assuming no temporary buffs like burst of power etc)

#

I've been spamming BT for thunderblast procs but im wondering if thats wrong

sullen dove
#

think its fine to bt on cd for thunderblast

charred estuary
#

Something like Thunderblast > CDS > Ramp > BT > RB is what i've been doing on aoe

feral ivy
#

anyone know in what WA gives this arrow above scrapmasters i cant find it

sharp wind
#

Any ways to sim Mister Lock-N Stalks with the aoe portion of it? it only seem to sim the single target calibration

sudden tusk
# feral ivy

its either the northern sky weak aura pack. or reloes individual weak aura pack

wanton mirage
#

any chance fury will get buffs in .5 patch?

hollow elk
#

why would they get buffs?

vague sierra
icy panther
#

is grim codex good?

hollow elk
#

its not good

smoky vale
#

what does the robot say for your specific gear

hollow elk
#

but if you dont have any better

icy panther
#

i've got energy drink and funhouse lens rn so probably just stick to that

dawn locust
#

i feel like im getting literally no invites to 13s, takes ages. kinda sucks and idk what to do ive got all 12s timed on fury + 3 13s (dfc/rook/ML), so close to 3k but gets tiring applying for hours. am i gimping myself by playing fury? is arms better for keys? idk I like fury more just takes so dang long bc im not a uhdk/fmage/boomie lmao

smoky vale
#

just perception

#

easiest way would be doing your own keys but thats also annoying

dawn locust
#

ig im just tilting myself bc it took over 3 hours to get a single invite last night, but we timed the 13 so whatever right

sudden tusk
#

takes along time, but its also keeping up with current rating

smoky vale
#

^

dawn locust
smoky vale
#

im turbo behind on my dk io wise

#

i should be like 3150

sudden tusk
#

if you dont keep up in io its very hard

smoky vale
#

not 3050

#

lol

feral ivy
dawn locust
#

im like 2987 im not too far behind current, i was top 3 in mal'ganis for weeks but slowed down last week bc work

smoky vale
#

nah current for push is like 31xx

#

maybe 32

dawn locust
sudden tusk
#

also depends on what dungeons you still need

#

fury is omega handycapped in cinder/priory

smoky vale
sudden tusk
#

ive been doing hunter keys

#

without an active trinket im hard greifing

#

surely HoC this week

feral ivy
#

imo get 3k as warrior and if u REALLY want to keep pushing i.o best to go meta unless u have friend group or dont mind waiting

smoky vale
#

also helps if you add people you find in groups

smoky vale
#

no uh

sudden tusk
#

not warrior lmao

dawn locust
#

got forced off mage bc token mechanic mage in raid group and havent geared shit up besides warrior this season, ig i just flip back to fire mage for m+ fun

sudden tusk
#

gearing is pretty fast you just have to grind it out

dawn locust
#

sucks i enjoy warrior alot now

#

mage is dead to me

feral ivy
#

warrior is fun thats why every time i switch to another alt i just go "ahh i dont feel like learning" then go back to warrior

dawn locust
#

give lust or remove aoe cap

feral ivy
#

survival is the best class to have fun 100%

sudden tusk
#

pushing io is very doable as warrior and there are multiple comps it works with

#

its just not really IN the meta

tepid cedar
#

Reallly need your own keys after staring 14s

#

Cause you will rarely get invites at 15. And no invites from 16 and on lol

feral ivy
#

i want to alt but ill wait till the patch notes come out next week see if there is there is nerfs and stuff

odd garden
#

i just read here that odyns is dogshit, and ive been using it all this time. if youre not using odyns how do you easily enrage when you need to?

#

i just feel like its such a big part of my macro/opening rotation that enrages me immediately and sends me in to pop all my CDs and bladestorm right after

sudden tusk
#

odyns is just strait up trash rn

dense imp
#

question friends, do we just go reck, ava, blade > blade reck > hold for reck ava blade

sudden tusk
#

what is blade?

dense imp
#

er

#

BS

sudden tusk
#

you just send CDs unless you need them for a burst window timing or they are within like 10 seconds of eachother

#

but i might be misunderstanding the question

dense imp
#

oh so just pop whatever it is on CD regardless unless its really close in them lining up

sudden tusk
#

yeah

dense imp
#

I just swapped back over due to guild needs and its felt weird with anger management or whatnot

sudden tusk
#

sitting on anything just means anger management gets no value

#

slayer fury also feels weird becuase you desync bladestorm from your reck all the time becuase of the additional cdr

dense imp
#

yeah its really weird, I played last tier on fury, and it wasn't quite as bad

sudden tusk
#

you basically send CDs on CDs as long as they get value which depends on the fights

#

but for ST its just cds on cd

dense imp
#

ok word, I appreciate that @sudden tusk also, do we hold initial CDS for after first rampage, or just send it

sudden tusk
#

start the fight with that to instantly get enough rage to rampage

#

then bladestorm

#

then Raging blow til you run out of charges or enrage falls off

#

then rampage and normal shit

dense imp
#

oh no shit ok, I currently have my macro with reck and avatar, then either BS or rampage, been playing with it but nothing has felt right lmao

#

but macro'ing to charge makes alot of sense

odd garden
#

whats normal shit, bc i think im realizing im lost when it comes to my rotation. is there somehwere i can look up an ideal rotation that shows priority?

sudden tusk
#

wowhead should have the prio, but i'll be making a video soon on it that will help hopefully

odd garden
#

word ty big homie

dense imp
#

does that charge macro work with reck / ava on cd @sudden tusk

sudden tusk
#

yeah personally have a seperate charge macro

#

but i guess you could use it as your charge if you wanted

dense imp
#

word, I really appreciate it 😄

#

@sudden tusk legit that was a massive dps increase even in a pull or two just using that macro lmao

sudden tusk
#

yar

feral ivy
#

mythic stix if ur on the ball can u get killed or dmg by the scrapmasters landing circle?

sudden tusk
#

no

feral ivy
#

i have a question lets say u get ball and scrap master+ bomb at diamond but boss is at x after the 1st interupt after landing do yall go straight to boss or stay on it?

edgy widget
#

wut

#

if you have the ball you build it big, eat scrapmasters, and either roll it into a big bomb or the boss

feral ivy
#

yea but when u land across the map with the scrap master it keeps casting do u go back to the boss and fuck the scrap master to let range deal with it or just keep kicking it

edgy widget
#

go back to the boss; ranged can kick, dk can grip, and the scrap master will eventually jump towards melee anyway

feral ivy
#

ahhh kk i went back to boss and was worried that was the wrong choice

left perch
#

Wait

#

Ranged can kick??

edgy widget
#

yeah, they just like to complain about it

sullen dove
#

i mean you kick your add once first

#

if you pop a bomb across the room

#

but then yea you run in and ranged ideally does the second kick

#

it always casts like right as you drop it

#

def omegatroll to insta leave your add

rocky locust
silk wharf
#

Ive always assumed, I guess, that share trinkets simmed, for simplicities sake, that you just got whatever the share buff was.

#

To roughly represent its full effect.

remote bobcat
#

You are comparing two of the strongest fury trinkets to signet, an above average trinket

#

This is normal

rocky locust
#

Hmm. So maybe I shouldn't use it unless other people in my party have one?

remote bobcat
#

Dont use it

#

Its not that good

rocky locust
#

Oh.

#

Is that also true in raid?

remote bobcat
#

Listen brother, sim aoe and sim st

#

Robot is accurate

#

Also energy drink n mechano are really really good trinkets

#

But listen to sims imo

sour frigate
#

having on-use trinket actually good

#

signet is just not very good

edgy widget
#

Signet is at the bottom of the top 10 trinkets for Fury, which is ok, but pretty easily replaceable

#

2m just doesn't line up particularly well with Warrior cds

sour frigate
#

Ye id macro it into ravager/reck instead of avatar

steady barn
#

yalls thoughts on what weapon ishould rock

sullen dove
#

i mean...

#

the only 2 you have that are anything

steady barn
#

well i got main crafted weapon right

#

this will be secondary weapon

sullen dove
#

either capital or bis idk

#

sim should say

steady barn
#

sims for cap

#

but i feel like in some cases

#

the bis could pop off

sullen dove
#

if you dont have any on use trinket maybe bis just to use it with cds sometimes

steady barn
#

i got that stupid funhouse lense

sullen dove
#

but otherwise cap just kinda dont think about it and gg

#

would prolly say bis in m+ tho if you want

#

since cap is not gonnas tack up at all

#

but raid cap is aight

steady barn
#

right

#

right

#

ok

#

ty

#

especially with these 6 minutes timers on these boss fights

edgy widget
silk wharf
#

58 is champ cap

sullen dove
#

if it could be upgraded to heroic it wouldve dropped at 665 from heroic

steady barn
#

which we downed tonight YAY

#

unfort no weapon

sullen dove
trail tendon
#

coming back to the game now that there's a new patch, last time i played mountain thane and it got buffed and that was the way to go, what should i be running for m+ and or raid?

sullen dove
#

thane still m+

#

slayer raid

#

aside from maybe thane is ok on bandit and good on stix

unreal onyx
stiff torrent
#

Any good guides that go into the details about how the 11.1 changes affect playing fury? I've fallen from the top of the meters in raid and the parses are suggesting it's more than just fury falling down a few pegs. Went from big dog oranges down in a bad way.

eternal sundial
#

Early on it's easier to parse as gear is a larger leverage

#

If everyone has gear playing right matters more

#

And getting better pulls

stiff torrent
#

I meant from last season to this one

dense fulcrum
#

would u craft the back even if u wouldnt benefit much from it? i dunno what to do with the spark

#

(benefit atleast now,)

sour frigate
#

Craft belt/boots?

signal falcon
#

Just returning to the game (haven’t played since around DF S3), are there any decent guides on how to catch up to the current endgame?

#

I assume I need to do the whole campaign to open things up for a start

warm crag
#

Im running around with 2 crafted pieces

iron portal
tired root
#

guys i am a bit confused is raging blow priority over bloodthirst on slayer?

sudden tusk
#

you raging blow until you have at least 85% crit on bt then you prio bt

#

in execute you will prio BT after casting at least one raging blow which will happen with natural gameplay

tired root
#

got it, but isnt 75% on bt cap? or i misunderstood something

warm crag
#

Bt crit is affected by your regular crit, Reck, bloodcraze, 4p, youre not gonna track all that stuff yourself

smoky vale
#

eignops

rocky locust
tired root
barren dagger
#

Do we have to do the mechanic on stix now that it’s removed from wcl?

smoky vale
#

yes

#

????????

warm crag
#

You had to do it before aswell

#

Shocker

dense elbow
#

Wcl strikes again

tired root
#

should i use bloodthirst of tier set procs but its on 44% for example? or i still buil to 85%

smoky vale
#

you dont track the tierset

#

it does nothing

tired root
#

oh ok, but weak aura sound pop on 44% sometimes

#

so confuse me lol

radiant plank
#

Happens in VC range

tight roost
#

So with both bt and sd wa’s sd takes prio over bt right?

fading sky
#

rik is such a fury fight holy lawd

#

nwm i take it back, logs show its just my guild range are shi

#

t

austere hearth
#

how much crit should we have ?

iron portal
#

No set amount. We sim topgear

austere hearth
#

it say i should craft crit haste neck 😄

unreal onyx
#

Just craft what sims best and recraft if needed

#

Stats are changeable

echo iris
#

I have a very important question to ask. Do you guys have a preferred transmog when you play Slayer vs when you play Thane?

earnest canyon
#

no?

echo iris
#

unfortunate

earnest canyon
#

just seems like unnecessary faffing around

echo iris
#

lookin good is always necessary

slim pollen
river reef
bitter palm
#

goat missing

left perch
#

where @unfortunate

#

@player still around?

river reef
#

@eternal sundial alteast phil is still around

left perch
#

he pretends to quit all the time now, so he might disappear some day

river reef
#

bro probably sleeps through quitting his wow sub again and is trapped foranother 4months

mossy fox
#

rip

left perch
#

makes macros way less fun to share

mossy fox
#

what about cur

#

@cursor

#

gg

river reef
#

its over

bitter palm
#

@eternal sundial hi u are still around

#

@roninx

left perch
#

joewari da

eternal sundial
red yew
river reef
#

secret discord hacks

left perch
#

remembering names of people

red yew
#

Imagine

left perch
#

unfortunate

eternal sundial
#

Not ancient hack any%

river reef
#

remembering discord names of people > remembering when your wow sub runs out and have to pay for another 4months

#

phil heute burger?

eternal sundial
#

@river reef once i come home i can start new run cookie clicker

#

I mean ascend

river reef
red yew
#

Uheldigt

tight roost
#

@mossy fox do you share your WA in any way? I am looking to update my setup and i like what you’ve got running

limber flint
#

Yo! Newbie question, is there any target limit cutoff when u prioritize RB over BT for Thunderblast proccs as M+ multitarget rotation?

fickle cedar
limber flint
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Ty guys!

warm crag
limber flint
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So to sum it up, any cleave scenario BT w/o TB procc?

warm crag
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Its a very minor dps loss until 5 targets but simplifies the rotation a lot

limber flint
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Not often there are only 2 targets, so it helps a lot. Kind of overwhelmed jumping back since BFA, gonna try to get to 3k.

pale sable
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Hi all, recently came back to the game. I have (surely) a stupid question, reason I ask you the more savvy theorycrafters.

I have 2p season one at 639ilvl shoulders and legs.
And 2p season two 662 head and 655 chest.

I have 649 off tier shoulders and legs I could catalyst.

When simming, the 2p season one 639ilvl shows as better than 4p season 2.

Should I trust this or just go for 649 shoulders and chest to complete the 4p season 2?

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Thanks in advance ❤️

rare garnet
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Our tier sucks trust sims

pale sable
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Hmm, my guildies tell me not to trust sims.

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In this case*

rare garnet
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Your Guildies hates you

radiant plank
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Link sim

lavish pond
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Hey guys, what is considered a good ST damage using MT?

pale sable
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Nah, they don't just bit misinformed thats all.

pale sable
radiant plank
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but u already simmed

sand crest
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old 2pc is rly strong, you'll likely need more ilvl for current 4pc to pull ahead

pale sable
oblique trail
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If you're logged in, there's a history tab

pale sable
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nw, I pay for raidbots

oblique trail
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Or just use your browsers history tab

pale sable
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ah ok

oblique trail
pale sable
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eh now it shows that 4p season 2 is better?

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huh

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it didnt last night

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same items

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confused

rare garnet
radiant plank
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You most likely didnt sim catalyzed shoulder/legs

pale sable
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as u can see, i did choose to catalyst shoulders and legs last night too

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brb

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❤️

whole yacht
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I don't see the shoulders and pants on last nights

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Am I blind

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I am blind

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I didn't scroll enough lmao

radiant plank
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I think

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u selected option

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that forces it always to have

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2pc of old tier

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equipped

warm crag
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King

oblique trail
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Unless it's the one setting that doesn't get saved when pressing run sim again, it doesn't seem to be the case

radiant plank
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or maybe he didnt select his catalyst charges

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shrugeg

oblique trail
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There were enough in both

radiant plank
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cuz there is not one option where the sim catalyzed shoulders and legs

lost saffron
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@oblique trail

rare garnet
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Either way it’s barely enough to care equip your gear and get back in your dungeons King

oblique trail
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@lost saffron

lost saffron
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Nice profile picture

oblique trail
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thank you, you too with your ai slop

lost saffron
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Call me by my real name

oblique trail
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tophenberg

whole yacht
mossy fox
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very inspiring

lost saffron
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il cacto hippoppotomo

edgy widget
pale sable
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Thanks all who looked.

mossy fox
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xd

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i actually did try some ai art last week for my char

lost saffron
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Did you turn out italian?

mossy fox
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turned out pretty cool

lost saffron
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I think you would be

radiant plank
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noooo

oblique trail
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I cannot consider myself acquainted anymore with Critcake after reading this

warm crag
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Blie

lost saffron
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blub blub octopussi

radiant plank
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nooooooooooooo

warm crag
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Blue

radiant plank
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Critcake cancelled

mossy fox
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why

warm crag
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Remove critcake yellow and pink roles now

lost saffron
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When critcake blue

radiant plank
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Using AI in public online places as a social media influencer leads to cancellation

lost saffron
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When Toph Yellow

warm crag
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Critcake orange

mossy fox
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gg it's over

warm crag
lost saffron
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I wish

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I could spread my knowledge of the warrior class in world of warcraft

warm crag
edgy widget
# mossy fox

it does look good, though the discourse around AI art is not one that I'm overly interested in wading into

pale sable
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@mossy fox I've always liked your videos, very informative. Have you made one for Fury spell priority?

mossy fox
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idk it interpreted gray nelf skin with red eyes different i guess

lost saffron
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@mossy fox I do no dps in my keys, what am I doing wrong?

edgy widget
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you're grouping with unholy dk, fire mage, balance druids, ret paladins, and they're stealing all your dammies

remote bobcat
edgy widget
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that's why I only group with non-meta classes to make myself look better dracthyr_nod

lost saffron
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Critcake when are you hopping on runecape?

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You should do CoX with me

remote bobcat
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Hes our warrior high io representative

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He makes it easy to get into groups

warm crag
mossy fox
lost saffron
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So like

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8 years ago? Judging by your looks

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UwU

edgy widget
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can't be that long ago, he's a baby

mossy fox
lost saffron
remote bobcat
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Yo archi what boss are you on atm?

edgy widget
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we're stuck in bandit hell

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with the worst comp imaginable

lost saffron
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Are you rerolling warlock?