fury

[quiet breach]

so u think its a good idea to switch my enchants to speed and switch back to avoidance once I get to M mugzee prog?

[oblique trail]

I think you should use Leech enchants

Then go Avoid for Mug

Then back to Leech

[quiet breach]

oh I didn't realize leech enchants were a thing lol I thought it was just speed and avoid

good to know

[willow patrol]

what enchants do you use on your warriors? if you ever go arms, do you compensate or is it just the same?

i hate simming weapon enchants because its so ... odd

circumstances, etc

[quiet breach]

authority of the depths

for wep

for rings I use whatever robot says

which rn for me is mastery on one and vers on the other

[willow patrol]

yep, too poor for that on warrior need to move gold lmao

[wispy thistle]

If you switch back and forth you cant go wrong with haste on rings

technically radiance can be better in multi target but you can just go depths

the rest pretty much stay the same

[willow patrol]

Yeah, im just looking at weapon craft as permanent

[smoky vale]

rate new build

[dense elbow]

3/10, no 2x2hander

[oblique trail]

what

[smoky vale]

those who dough

[oblique trail]

I really don't care to know about this

[smoky vale]

its just pvp talent

[sullen dove]

not much to know bout

[jade cipher]

socket angle guys?

[sullen dove]

if u have myth gloves already prolly

[jade cipher]

yeah i have gloves

that top trinket can be good in raid on arms but eh

[fluid temple]

Myth track weapon in vault let’s go bois

[edgy widget]

ToP trinket is decent ST, but replaceable - socket is fine if you have something to put it in that won't be replaced

[jade cipher]

my current trinkets are Floodgate and house of cards, i can put socket on crafted waist or wrist

[jade cipher]

Top trinkte is pretty shit iin dungeons right?

[fickle cedar]

its really good for ST, kinda bad as soon as you add another target

[jade cipher]

i spend most my time in dungeon

[fickle cedar]

then its a socket angle i suppose

[solemn widget]

Should we just send third craft into whatever slot is lowest ilvl after we have weapon and bracer w embellish

[modern ingot]

Hero track eye of kezan or myth track pacemaker ? Sims say eye is bigger upgrade. But i still prefer myth pacemaker, also is eye even good in m+ ?

[fickle cedar]

id say pace, eye is really bad in m+

[sweet basin]

Is there any buff or nerf?

[modern ingot]

True!

[dry talon]

Amplifier still ok?

[snow edge]

#updates-midnight message

[tight roost]

myth track boots or heroic track funhouse lens? theey sim about the same fully upgraded

[edgy widget]

really depends on whether expect to replace either and/or how likely you think you are to find another one

[tight roost]

well boots are bis, so i expect those will be keepers

we are 6/8 HC last reset, so i suspect better trinkets are within the realm of possibility

[tidal kindle]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uPe5dGtSJt9V51n7dsaDJZ
@radiant plank +10k after I get cinder neck

[silk wharf]

A hero funhouse lens is basically unreplaceable until mythic Bandit, in my opinion. I wouldn't find it so easy to just pass on it.
I'm still wearing a champ lens/drink and am having the hardest time replacing them.
A sim for my character shows lens as considerably better than HoC for instance. (both hero)

[radiant plank]

pogo

[tidal kindle]

Arms 2.55

[flat river]

Hello fellow warriors

How do you do

[rocky wharf]

Same, have champ lens and its beating hero eye and cards. Wild times

[warm crag]

Hello GioStronk

[silk wharf]

Good, got a rank 2 log. Was only heroic Carnage though.

[tight roost]

for my gear HoC sims a bit better than lens but probably within margin or error

*heroic HoC that is

[flat river]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1294680138042183711/1358901241375359179/Battle.net_J86KgwOoYA.gif

[warm crag]

@clever belfry

[gleaming siren]

That is an iconic gif and I need it to see widespread use

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1294680138042183711/1358901241375359179/Battle.net_J86KgwOoYA.gif

[flat river]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1343191736889114645/00Vwe.gif

Also this one

I have a love hate relationship with Wednesdays

Its reset day which is big

But it's also the longest day for me in uni

[clever belfry]

stop using my creation

[oblique trail]

You are Balls.

[clever belfry]

Problem?

[oblique trail]

Nyo :3

[verbal garden]

Arms or Fury better in Rookery?

[sullen dove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1343191736889114645/00Vwe.gif?ex=67f70b09&is=67f5b989&hm=e63ec57377eaf844f808db01ce95e99a77211294aa1b7bd357f2dfcbcf63a61a&

most like real rookery packs are like 6-8 targets so idk fury should be pretty aight

tho like the little shitters is prime arms demolish fodder

arms also lends itself a bit better to burst cds during last boss but eh

unless ur doin like 15+ shouldnt matter waht spec whatever u want

[dense fulcrum]

is there any collateral damage wa only?

[sullen dove]

probably if you google it

[dense fulcrum]

cant find

one that works

[sullen dove]

does this one not

imported by hrothmar too wowie

imagine it'd work

tho is few months old idk if that'd affect functionality

https://wago.io/j8lkBBsVy

here link tho

can try it out idk

[dense fulcrum]

let me try

it gave me an error b4

[sullen dove]

is that what u tried b4?

[mossy fox]

collat mbg overlaps 💥

[smoky vale]

gm critcake

[dense fulcrum]

restarting client, now should work i hope

[sullen dove]

does that stuff like multiply or add

[mossy fox]

gm gio

[mossy fox]

multiplicative p sure

[dense fulcrum]

gm goat ^

[sullen dove]

like is it the collat buffed cleave does an extra 50% damage

or the 50% is like another 2 stacks of collat

[mossy fox]

former

[sullen dove]

multi sounds like the first right

that does seem quite bust

hmm

[mossy fox]

thats why i overlap it whenever i can do it fairly naturally

[sullen dove]

idk if holding ravager for like 10 sec into a pack ideal does seem pumpa tho

i almost always try to double op b4 the collat cleave too

surely also worth

for martial prowess i think or wtv the buff is called

[dense fulcrum]

wait im on fury channel...well since we're here

[smoky vale]

https://tenor.com/view/a-mimir-goodnight-penguin-sleep-goodbye-chat-gif-24989131

[sullen dove]

xd yea

[dense fulcrum]

any more wa for specific buff tracking on arms?

(just messing around with the spec, cuz i'll get declined every key with fury in 13+ :/ )

[sullen dove]

i dont think theres too many that matter aside from yea ig MBG if you want to tho thats mostly a function of just "cleaves during ravager are big pump"

and like rend tracker i guess kinda helpful

mostly for smaller packs/st

pretty often i forget to reapply without it

but ur not spamming 3 thunderclaps on a 15 pack pull

[smoky vale]

i press tc 2 times

[sullen dove]

dented

[smoky vale]

on pull refresh

[smoky vale]

blow up go eep

[sullen dove]

does it refresh or just hit 5 other targets

[smoky vale]

uh

[sullen dove]

i have stratholme to farm

the gold wont make itself

just spent 1.5k in sod

in like 2 hours

[smoky vale]

i think refresh if i send late

[smoky vale]

losing to bots bud

[sullen dove]

always are

[mossy fox]

it's not rly holding if you're chaining and it just lines up

but if pack is already fully gathered then obv dont hold

[sullen dove]

yer

linin up mbg collat warbreaker does seem juicy + if u can get a cool 4set proc

[dense fulcrum]

what MGB stays for ?

[sullen dove]

merciless bonegrinder

[dense fulcrum]

having it in italian doesnt help

ah ok lol

[sullen dove]

buff under ravager

[smoky vale]

merciless bonehrinder

[dense fulcrum]

ty

[sullen dove]

astrogapped by gajeels ret in a key tho...

[dense fulcrum]

https://prnt.sc/XvgiAzLr9HIQ completely different

[sullen dove]

2 chested 10 priory i do 4mil he does 5mil

lets explode ret perhaps

[smoky vale]

dont look at the mage

[sullen dove]

wasnt

dragindeez closed the gap a bit but also 2nd run way more troll

[smoky vale]

impossible to do damage unless i play stupid build

[sullen dove]

i do think my evoker is like 3x better than warr in keys

at this point

[smoky vale]

prob yeah

[sullen dove]

still not completely sure about st

but do ok enough i guess

[smoky vale]

could form little ahh push group with dev uh

[sullen dove]

check these arrows breh

eatin good

get them for basically free

[smoky vale]

playing mage below 15 and playing frost and not playing flamestrike zzzz

[flat river]

Sharing is caring

[smoky vale]

i am revvez

[flat river]

I get invited idk what you're talking about

[dense fulcrum]

so you blessed idk

i usually wait hours to get into high keys

[median marsh]

which ring is better?

[dense fulcrum]

what track is the jastor?

heroic ?

cuz that's bis

[simple shell]

is this trinket really 128k dps dif or is something of with sims?

[smoky vale]

did you not upgrade the delve one to max?

[simple shell]

its fully upg, champ

[median marsh]

its hc ya

[dense fulcrum]

jastor

take that ^^

[simple shell]

its also saying this

which means bracer dif -133k lmao

[smoky vale]

are you changing embellishments?

[dense fulcrum]

but u can always sim the myth ring and the jastor

[smoky vale]

link your sim

[dense fulcrum]

i think jastor might be better but sim it

[oblique trail]

This sim in general has something wrong with it, the trinket is not a 128k diff

[simple shell]

like the simc? from ingame?

[oblique trail]

No the actual sim you just did

[smoky vale]

no like theres a link

in the website you can copy

[simple shell]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/97k1fTxYQd4TqmLJdNHaVg

[oblique trail]

I see the issue

You're removing 2 gems from your Cyrce's

[simple shell]

ahh damn right

ty

[oblique trail]

Remember to choose these if you have replace on

Otherwise seemingly Top gear just fully empties them

[simple shell]

ty! 😄

[nimble jacinth]

are sims broken? Its telling me I lose 18k dps with 678 pants vs 658 but that surely cant be right ?

[oblique trail]

Send the sim

[nimble jacinth]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/aFiPaQQYxXyZ252V8ou2gY

[oblique trail]

At a glance I can't 100% tell what the issue might be, other than either hitting some extremely specific haste breakpoint for a dungeon slice sim, or it affects your mechano-core and BiS to give you a less favourable stat (which it doesn't seem to be either)

But I wouldn't use dungeon slice as a means of picking gear choices, because 20 ilvl on legs will be better regardless of the secondaries

[nimble jacinth]

Yeah, rerunning on a patchwerk sim now, didnt realise I had it set to dungeon slice

But yeah, surely 20 ilvl should be better regardless ?

Yeah 30k up in the patchwork

[simple shell]

ye the str has giga value no?

[oblique trail]

correct

Legs, chest and helm all have the highest stat budgets, so ilvl on those are very meaningful

[flat river]

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24186695

[past tulip]

Is there an website to see which boss fights in the raids that are aoe or ST? or a WA that tells you this?

[smoky vale]

no but you can tell by which talents people play per boss

using warcraftlogs lets you see this

[alpine crow]

Spent a lot of time siming it, raidbot tells me to go for the belt and fully upgrade my actual HM track ring (the crit mast one from cinder). Someone told me we'll be able to grab the Myth track jastor ring with the 11.1.5 dinars coming up.
Any advice ?

[sudden tusk]

pretty sure that belt is BiS if its the haste mast one for fury

[alpine crow]

Yup it is that one

[edgy widget]

there's a raid page in the #dps-faq guides that will give you a good idea of what to run on which boss

[edgy widget]

we don't know when dinar are coming - a dev interview said they'd be in 11.1.5, but they have not been found on the PTR and were not mentioned in today's release date bluepost

so my guess is they're probably delayed for 11.1.7

[sacred trail]

hello guys, i am new to furry warrior and i would like to ask if its better to Bloodthirst or Raging Blow in an aoe cenario (Mountain Thane in m+) its better to Raging Blow and track Bloodcraze or spam Bloodthirst for a Thunder Blast proc also its different if you are on Recklessness & Avatar from no cds?

[smoky vale]

thunderblast procs do not affect your rotation because they will probably be spent over the course of the buff duration

i think bt > rb in aoe

[edgy widget]

I think you're thinking of burst of power

[smoky vale]

prob

i dont read talents that are forced

[alpine crow]

Oh alright, so it's unsure as of when the dinars are coming up. Thank you for that information !

[oblique trail]

bad habit

Just because a talent is forced doesn't mean you don't need to know what it does or if it's important

[past tulip]

Thank you

[sacred trail]

the reason i dont know its because rb gives you more damage on bl and on rampage so its not better to spam it on aoe cenario?

but a lot of people are saying bl its better for aoe

[mellow wave]

I think u should go for Jastor?

The Dinars are needed for out BiS Weapons, arent they?

[pale laurel]

didnt have time to do a lot this week, but this is the only decent thing, pick this and swap it out for a trinket and if so which one, I asume turbo drain?

[clever belfry]

torqs is awful

[pale laurel]

yeah ive heard that last week xD

[clever belfry]

answer is to sim it

but itll be torqs

[pale laurel]

sim it?

[clever belfry]

💀

[pale laurel]

mate im a noob ive only really started playing this season

[radiant plank]

mate

[pale laurel]

idk what that is xd

[oblique trail]

double red button angle

[runic whale]

anyone else getting this or am i just bad. doing 11s rn and my damage is awful on target cap packs

[earnest canyon]

thats because you are target capped

or do u mean packs of 5

[flat river]

REAL

Bro i have every single button from torque

[earnest canyon]

Give them back he needs them

[flat river]

All 4 difficulties, just have an extra champion one

I have gathered the infinity stones

[earnest canyon]

lmao

[chrome plover]

press them all at once

[flat river]

Real

Maybe then fury will be uncapped on MT

Maybe you need to press them all

[remote storm]

So, after every Bladestorm, I've been pressing RB, RB and then Rampage (For SS and BF buffs) - Even if that meant I was over 100 or even capped on Rage

I imagine I'm supposed to Ramage the moment I'm anywere near cap?

[flat river]

Btw the reason i have all those buttons is because the trinket sucks ass for everyone so the GM gave them to me for the memes

XD

The raidfinder one i won fair and square though >:(

[clever belfry]

where are ur razdunks big red buttons

[civic cloud]

hey guys a question about trinkets, rn i got house of cards, lock-n-stalk and eye of kezan, and the sim is telling me to use lock-n-stalk + eye of kezan

does that seem right ? im not sure if i can trust the sim 100% since a lot of context is missing from it

like most fights so far don't seem long enough for eye of kezan to have value

[clever belfry]

depends on fight length

you are likely simming 5min

[sour frigate]

Eye of kezan is for 5+ mins fights

[clever belfry]

look at how long ur kills are taking

also if there is adds lock n stalk inherently loses value

[sour frigate]

Doesnt suit well for m+ generally tho

[civic cloud]

so basically lock-n-stalk only has 100% value on sprocketmonger ? 😄

[clever belfry]

well it doesnt lose value i phrased that wrong

but it doesnt gain anything

its still good on fights like bandit

[civic cloud]

hmm right gottcha

[sand crest]

im still out here running signet + goon squad : (

I did one run of priory with a friend as prot loot spec, got him tome with avoidance on it

[clever belfry]

calling in the goons

[sand crest]

meanwhile a billion floodgates in, 0 pacemaker

[clever belfry]

hope uve been doing ur delves

with ur dogass trinkets

[sand crest]

I have

no lens

no drink

no mechano

[clever belfry]

wtf real ballnezi @oblique trail ????

[oblique trail]

:balls:

[oblique trail]

nitroless pov

[clever belfry]

maidenless

[radiant plank]

Banezi of all ppl out of nitro

[oblique trail]

Yea..

It's expensive

But now I can't abuse yellow privilege

[clever belfry]

i think friend role

should also get priv

[radiant plank]

i htink warrior brain should get priv

[clever belfry]

disagree

[radiant plank]

anda should not get priv

[clever belfry]

reason: contrarianism

is that even a word

[radiant plank]

idk

me no speak london

[clever belfry]

i am from england, america

[flat river]

XD

[jovial latch]

Did you guys already replace your circlets ? my sims are showing that 2 hero rings do more damage lol

[opal gulch]

Circlet is still stronger than anything for me

[flat river]

I wonder if they will make a mega dungeon for next season

[modest hollow]

take trinket or two hand?

[sour frigate]

If you dont have mythic weapon go for weapon

[lilac plinth]

I picked trinket over weapon by mistake 🙂

The improved one

[forest owl]

miffic tier legs 👍

[elfin vine]

hey guys in M+ do you just replace WW to TC seen as tho it refreshers the additional target stacks?

[oblique trail]

If you play Thane yes, you only use TC as your AoE enabler

There are very very rare scenarios where it's optimal to press WW but it's so rare that I'd not bother binding it if you don't care enough

[ebon bluff]

2 stacks on single is not worth?

[hot girder]

Hey guys, do you know if raidbots simply doesnt try to put all type of gems in a top gear result to empower the prismatic gem, or is going for strict secondary stats that better?

[elfin vine]

👍

[austere hearth]

Hey guys, with the bt weakaura, Do we always press bt when it glow or only with 85% crit and when nothing Else is to press?

[next ruin]

In the end, do people pre cast avatar by 10s on cauldron?

[native rapids]

Hey guys, I got this vault and was thinking about picking Mechano core amplifier but when simming it, I'm getting pretty bad results from it, and good results from Miniature Roulette Wheel (6200 haste + 1033crit)... I was expecting better results from Mechano Core Amp, did it get nerfed or smth? Or do sims not present real dps when it comes to these trinkets?
Sim link: https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/oYGQazoQHuufySgzvRhGoS

[fervent yoke]

They do

[fervent yoke]

Press when it glows, it also does more damage to enemies with low hp

[next ruin]

Do not sim dungeon slice, sim 1T, 6T without lust and 8T with lust

[radiant sentinel]

took signet from vault as my only not completely terrible option... anything I can macro it into? sucks it's got a 2min cd

[bitter palm]

whos ur president

michael jordan

[next ruin]

Avatar and reck

[radiant sentinel]

it's best to hold for that even with the cds not lining up?

[remote bobcat]

shoulders vs pants, i guess we're just waiting for what drops in the raid tomorrow

[bitter palm]

legs have a lot more stats

[remote bobcat]

ok cool? im still not picking it until i see if i drop legs from the raid

lol

[next ruin]

You have reck so often, you might hold signet for 10-15s max?

[radiant sentinel]

Fair point

[clever belfry]

suprised no one got it...

[plush zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/swaggy-p-nick-young-cocky-missed-it-gif-14557467

[bitter palm]

negev run and gun on overpass

goat clip

[next ruin]

I'm not sure if that's how you'd use it in raid, but I guess that's how people use it in m+

But might aswell track the cd just in case it comes back up like 1-5s after you pop cd on a pack

[bitter palm]

ПЕРЕЗАРЯЖАЮСЬ ‼️

[radiant sentinel]

yeah, good call. I'll do that

[remote storm]

The opener suggests that we press RB twice (for the SS stacks) before Rampage after Bladestorm. Is this true for only the opener? Do we still double RB then Rampage after Bladestorm every Bladestorm?

[next ruin]

You could do it after every bladestorm yes

[quiet geyser]

In theory yes. Doesnt always workout though

[remote storm]

Even if I'm rage capped? Bladestorm usually maxes the 130 rage

[sterile furnace]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/873282359074627585/1274193280258674749/attachment-1-1.gif

[orchid dagger]

You don't always need to burn off the rage

[quiet geyser]

If you have the RB stacks up, and not about to lose enrage, yes

[orchid dagger]

Rampage is basically there just to give you Enrage

[remote storm]

Perfect, Thank you :)

[remote bobcat]

turns out raging blow stacking is better even if u lose enrage

as long as u get resets, press raging blow in pure st

up to 5 ofc

[next ruin]

It also hits like a truck

[orchid dagger]

It's ok

[next ruin]

Your hardest hitting ability

[orchid dagger]

It's not our best button, it's just there to give us Enrage/Slaughterhouse stacks

[next ruin]

What button does more damage per press

[orchid dagger]

Buttons with stacks

[remote bobcat]

it hits the hardest because we buff it with raging blow n shit

[orchid dagger]

^

Rampage w/ stacks is useful

Rampage w/o stacks is just to get Enrage/Slaughterhouse stacks

[next ruin]

Even without buffs rampage does more damage than everything else, I dont know why you're trying to be edgy, read the tooltips

That's also why minmaxxing sls stacks is within error margin of sending ramp ASAP during reck window

[orchid dagger]

I might have to deep dive the numbers again, been a hot fucking minute

[remote bobcat]

the effective dmg of RB is higher than Rampage while enraged, rampage is higher while not enraged

so its like

shrug

[sand crest]

flat out affirming something and after saying "well actually I have no idea, its been a hot minute" is crazy

trade chat style

[remote bobcat]

do you know what effective damage means?

[next ruin]

I know that minmaxxing sls is 0.5% above sending rampage ASAP with reck up

[remote bobcat]

if you only look at an ability based on what it says in the tooltip of that button - in isolation - then you're not looking at the effective dmg of every button press

[next ruin]

= margin of error

[radiant plank]

margin of error is 0.2%

smh

[next ruin]

My bad

[radiant plank]

this rb spam is actual optimization

its small but small things add up

for alot

[next ruin]

What you guys told me was rampage natty was worse
Now that you see it's not you make another point zzz

[next ruin]

I also do it most of the time, yet a lot of people also say it's a loss when reck is up

And it feels like a loss when you don't have frenzy stacks yet. But that's feelcraft

[remote bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-falling-building-fall-woodz-gif-24715383

[next ruin]

Don't act like someone didn't say it

[remote bobcat]

i mean if ur referencing that punished buhsac guy

he's cluergy

pepega

[thick fossil]

Anyone know the justification on why Mark's hunter cleave being 75% and ours being 55%?

[next ruin]

I don't know who is who sry

[remote bobcat]

what?

[next ruin]

He means why aimed shot cleave to 75% while meat cleaver cleave only 55%

[thick fossil]

Trick shots allows rapid fire and aimed shot to hit 4 other targets at 75%.

[next ruin]

The answer prolly being only aimed shot and rapid fire cleave

[timid sonnet]

Sounds like warriors need a nerf

[thick fossil]

True

[limber verge]

+1

marksman not masculine spec

[next ruin]

[thick fossil]

I just find it odd that they went with 75% instead of 55% like Fury. Especially since you can always have it active for big packs, and always be cleaving. Even more so with Sentinel.
Still no as broken as Unholy RnG beast, but still, was just something I found odd in the balance.

[fading sky]

True

[next ruin]

We have every ability that cleaves, only 2 for them

[rare garnet]

Nerf warrior aoe so hard all my raid wants is ST

[sour frigate]

The fuck

U fighting the wrong side pal

[rare garnet]

It’s pretty clear they don’t want us to AOE, time to give in and become a ST gamer

Hard cap us at 2 targets, big ST buff.

[sand crest]

it's pretty clear blizzard doesnt think like that when devoker exists

better than fury in st, way better than fury in aoe

clearly being bad at one isnt a required condition to be good at the other

[simple shell]

does this one cleave or only good ST+

[limber flint]

Which runes are best to use in Cyrce's circlet in M+?

See some guide using CracklingThunder, Fathomdweller and legendary skipper, but when i use that in a 6t cleave scenario it's sims less than Stormbringer, fathomfweller and windsinger.

[oblique trail]

Thunderlord is only pure ST, so it doesn't benefit from AoE, but typically you'd just use
Stormbringer, Fathomdweller and Windsinger/Skipper

You can sim the difference for you between Windsinger and Skipper as you get more ilvl, where Skipper should win out the higher you get

[limber flint]

Tyvm! Just jumper back in a week ago not played since BFA, so kinda lost haha.

Jumped*

[gleaming siren]

.05% even

[main dock]

for single target raid build on fury am i trying to spam my blood thirst as much as possible?

[fading sky]

No

Read guide

[main dock]

its the one on wowhead right?

[fading sky]

Any of em

Are quite good

And dl weak aura

Tells u when to bt

[main dock]

oh interesting

[versed perch]

So even when playing AM using CB is still worth more than rampage as long as you are still enraged and dont overcap?

i thought the cooldown reduction would be worth more but maybe thats why im not doing aswell as i want to

[fading sky]

Cb?

[versed perch]

sorry RB

[fading sky]

Ah

[versed perch]

raging blow not crushing blow

[thick fossil]

Am doesn't have crushing blow.

[fading sky]

Then no justnramp?

[thick fossil]

Yes, you use RB to pump up rampage damage.

[fading sky]

But if u can ramp or overcap

Ramp then u rb for next ramp

[thick fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-future-selfie-gif-15267404

[fading sky]

Its a rb world

Not a bt world

[thick fossil]

Spam RB between rampage, sneak in a BT or execute from time to time.

[versed perch]

but only rampage if your buff is running out or you are about to overcap on rage

[thick fossil]

I have my WA to make a gunshot sound for BT, so it sounds like a shootout when in execute range.

During lust its annoying as hell. Maybe get one ability between rage caps.

[versed perch]

What kind of weakauruas are you guys using, i have one for BT stacks and obv for enrage but are you guys using anything else important?

[thick fossil]

Slayer execute triggers, and BT triggers.

[quiet breach]

my WA has a droplet noise, it reminds me of blood dripping so, bloodthirst, makes sense

[thick fossil]

That actually makes a lot of sense.

[vague sierra]

I really don't wanna switch to arms to start timing a 15, but this shit seems unsalvageable man, jeez...

[sour frigate]

[simple shell]

worth playing arms first 2 bosses myth even if it sims 70k lower?

[fervent yoke]

Go arms it’s worth

[coarse nest]

Just pump boss and highest health mob ez

[strange gulch]

Should I craft something or upgrade something with crests? Or just save crests for next week? Any advice? (I am not raiding btw.)

[coarse nest]

Sim would probably tell you to craft pants and move tierset to gloves

That’s a lot of stats you’re missing on legs

I’m also guessing

Robot knows best

[strange gulch]

I used my catalyst charge on shoulders today.

[coarse nest]

Then craft belt is probably what robot would suggest next

[hardy bluff]

or boots

[strange gulch]

I was thinking about belt or boots.

[coarse nest]

Think that’s a haste mastery belt right?

So probably boots yeah

To drop some crit

[strange gulch]

Yes, with avoidance.

[coarse nest]

How many crests are left for you?

[strange gulch]

When I will reach cap of this week I will be at 75 Gilded crests.

[coarse nest]

So 662 pants 675 boots?

Probably the play

Check it in top gear though

[strange gulch]

Legs are sadly 8/8 champ :X

[coarse nest]

Oofff

[strange gulch]

No luck for me with drop.

[coarse nest]

Could send the 15 into belt then

[strange gulch]

Craft boots and 15 send to belt?

[coarse nest]

Again im just yapping robot knows best

[strange gulch]

I will try sim, thanks.

[coarse nest]

Goodluck!

[strange gulch]

Should I change stats on craft items? I am almost on ''cap'' with Mastery.

[coarse nest]

That’s another thing you can sim in top gear

All combinations of missives

Just click the + next to the crafted item in top gear and make a copy of it with different stats

[quiet breach]

bros

2 weeks till dinar

I heard dinar starts at like, giga low ilvl and goes all the way up to 678. which would mean a ton of crests invested into it. does it work like any other items in that if u pick a wep u can get free upgrades or a trinket/ring?

[warm crag]

It did in s4 df

You were down like 1.5k flightstones when you bought fyralath oly moly

[hardy bluff]

we dont know that

[coarse nest]

Already banking them flight stones for 678 Best in Slots

Honestly ring first might be the play the weapon isn’t as big of an upgrade since I have a 678 wep already

Ring is gorillion dps

[quiet breach]

isn't 11.1.5 in 2 weeks? https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/news/puzzling-cartel-chips-explained-new-raid-tokens-coming-in-patch-11-1-5/

[coarse nest]

Does that say we get them on day 1 of the patch?

Because I don’t see it in there specifying that

[quiet breach]

oh idk, maybe not, I shouldn't have assumed that ig

was a headline andy

xd

hmm

yeah guess we don't know

[barren dagger]

All the items are so boring

Why are our set bonuses this expansion so shit too?

In df it actually mattered for your rotation

[signal geyser]

hmm to swap ascension for double duskthread or not

[subtle raven]

sim it

i swapped from ascension cause it simmed 12k higher

[signal geyser]

oh can you actually add embelishments to the slots in topgear?

[subtle raven]

ofc

[signal geyser]

oh yea didnt even realise mb

[twilit harbor]

bullions in DF had 15 ranks to upgrade, but there were discounts based on ilvl equipped in that slot

you most likely already have every slot at 658, so upgrading to 678 would be maximum 15 crests more expensive than getting a 662 item from vault

plus added valorstone cost, which will probably hurt if we're purchasing the two 2h weapons

[oblique trail]

Outside of S3, not sure if I'd agree entirely

In S2, pre 4p you'd essentially play the same way until you got it, then you'd start tracking your BT to occasionally press BT

The Arms set outside of S3 was also practically completely passive with very slight optimisations, like MS'ing in opener with Fyralath (S4 stuff only really)

[dense elbow]

DFS1 TierSet it existed

[oblique trail]

Right but the S1 tier set might as well not have existed

(For Fury)

[next ruin]

Sim it but MM main hand usually is the play

[oblique trail]

Remember to put highest ilvl weapons in main hand'

[eternal sundial]

Wep wont sim well if u dont provide embell alternatives in sim

[oblique trail]

oh

didn't even see it had it already included in main hand

not sure why it's somehow lower than the 678 offhand result

[modest condor]

it has the red dot next to it

big margin of error

[oblique trail]

Either way you're not gonna really make a horrible choice regardless of picking the ring or weapon

Since both would be replaced eventually by Dinar purchases

[sinful glen]

am cooked here right?

already got myth weap and crafted

[oblique trail]

I saw, but the margin just looked infinitely larger than it prob should be (I don't know what the actual margin is like when it's high)

[modest condor]

me neither tbh

[unique oyster]

am i supposed to be consuming marked for execution ONLY at 3 stacks or do I wanna be doing it regularly to buff bladestorm

[sour frigate]

id pick weapon

[modest condor]

only at 3 stacks unless one of the other conditions come up

like aj/sd about to fall off

[main dock]

damn

that weak aura on bloodthirst improved my dps

[modest condor]

or if bladestorm is about to come off cooldown and you really need it right now instead of in 5-10 seconds

[main dock]

im raging blow more often now

[unique oyster]

what is aj

[modest condor]

ashen juggernaut

[unique oyster]

ashen jugger?

[knotty oracle]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/aCyjeoH4cQtdVhoWEqRizh is my dps low simply because ilvl only 650? this my first season so im very noob any info is helpful

[sour frigate]

yes

git ilvl then sim

[main dock]

is my raging blow suppose to be the highest dps skill i use?

[sour frigate]

rampage ig

at least in m+ 🤓

[main dock]

welll for raid

[elder ridge]

When i sim, BT is like in 4-5 place with RB being the most used and dmg

[main dock]

interesting okay

[eternal compass]

Guys is crafted amulet is better than meadery one on hero? Cba farming that shit im 30+runs already

Im not at home to sim it

[elder ridge]

Its because RB buffing Rampage 5x times for 100% more RP damage

[main dock]

ohhhhh

raging blow buffs rampage

[crude ridge]

You're also simming ST with AoE talents

[elder ridge]

I cant remember the name now, i'm at work 😁, but there is a talent that let you buff RP 5x for 100% extra RP damage. BT is good for when the bos/mob drop under 35%. Work as a execute

This if you have the talent selected!

[main dock]

wow im learning so much about warriors LOL

[quiet breach]

scenario: you have 130 rage and your execute WA kachings for 12s, you have enough enrage left to execute and rampage without ever running out. do you rampage or execute?

[wispy bridge]

I woudl rampage then execute to not waste rage but idk if the dps diffrence would be big

[wispy bridge]

pretty sure its called slaughtering strikes, near the middle of the talent tree

[eternal sundial]

Wdym by exe wa kachings

Like AJ dropping or

[quiet breach]

your execute conditions are met

[eternal sundial]

By which condition

Dawg

There's like 3

[quiet breach]

and u have enough time to rampage first before execute without losing the conditions

[quiet breach]

any

[eternal sundial]

AJ defo

Mfe likely

[quiet breach]

doesn't matter which, as long as you have enough time to rampage first

[eternal sundial]

Sd#2 prolly ramp

From vibes

[quiet breach]

defo and likely what?

[eternal sundial]

Defo exe

But aj depends on the duration of ur sd and AJ buff

If it's >2 id Rampage but if you only ever look at the wa

You dont know what ur doing and why

[clever belfry]

vibes based dps

[gleaming siren]

Yep

Having WA is useful to not think

if you dont think

always hit Exe

least likely you fuck something up that way

[edgy widget]

Fury's Execute doesn't need a complicated WA as badly as Arms, since you regularly find yourself in a position of hitting it anyway

[elder ridge]

Yes. Thanks

[edgy widget]

but I'd still prefer if Blizz just balanced out the need for them entirely

[quiet breach]

on mugzee during jails, if your jail is right next to the boss can you cleave the goon and the boss from inside the jail? or does the wall block it?

[dry talon]

x2 armor embeleshments or 1 on weapon 1 or armor ?

[rancid night]

Nope, you can't

[oblique trail]

You cannot hit in nor out of the gaol (directly)

The only thing that to my knowledge works is Roar

At the very least sometimes

[edgy widget]

unless you're a fire mage xD

[quiet breach]

ty

[clever belfry]

fire mage is also unintended behaviour

[rancid night]

Mages are special

[quiet breach]

is that the thing that max was glazing fired up for like an hour regarding the mugzee jails?

[oblique trail]

Mage in general is unintended

[clever belfry]

on ptr ignite would just hard cleave through it :)

but that was changed :)

[smoky vale]

darn

i have to alter blink ib displacement ib alter

[quiet geyser]

even roar i think only works JUST as it spawns. pretty sure it won't go through the walls after a second

[quiet breach]

mostly likely weapon + armor but only sim will answer with certainty

[clever belfry]

oh rogue caustic spatter also full ignores the wall

the goon cave isnt safe from spatter 💦

[smoky vale]

nice!

[clever belfry]

i didnt have to type that

[smoky vale]

you did though

[forest owl]

+11 DFC dont ask me what these guys were doing 👀

665 destro competing with tank damage is that right?

[sand crest]

this is what happens when dps role has 0 agency on a key getting timed below like 14-15 key level

ppl like this lock time 11s with their dmg and figure thats good enough

actually crazy

[next ruin]

What are the fury rotational cues to min max the output? Outside of sls stacking

[smoky vale]

what

[sour frigate]

press buttons harder

get durable keyboard

[smoky vale]

what are you even asking

[next ruin]

Min max things

[forest owl]

sadly it was his key but you're right with that one, there are plenty host their key, invite the ones that carry and keep on keeping on into the next carry

[sand crest]

scariest thing is if they dont host their keys, imagine ur hosting yours and the 4 ppl u invite are 4 ppl with the skill lvl of that lock

[fickle cedar]

dont swap target unless you have to (you'll lose frenzy stacks), you can always swap but keep rampaging the main one

[sand crest]

key is dead before it starts

but they have the score and the ilvl, so how are you supposed to know

[next ruin]

Yep I got this one

[sand crest]

tbh I dont even understand why ppl who clearly dont care about their performance even queue for anything above 10

[forest owl]

yeah i actually just double checked that lock is 2858 score how do you get through that score playing that poorly

[sand crest]

simple, dps is a boosted role

and there's 2 other dps to rely on

[clever belfry]

7

[fickle cedar]

there's lots of people being carried by their meta spec in general

[forest owl]

yeah and he has 12s in time, i just cant imagine playing this poorly in keys like that, but obviously it can be done lol

[dense elbow]

That better be a BDK, cause that is BDK levels of dam

[sand crest]

what I dont get though is, imo the fun part about wow literally is performing well in the content, why even queue 11s-12s if clearly you're holding the group back? Especially considering that in wow, unlike many other games, you can legit go from grey parsing to pink parsing overnight if you care enough and inform yourself

[smoky vale]

yeah somone ban this noob mage

[dense elbow]

Just think about it like this: They do the trash, you do the boss.

And it is more... ok

[forest owl]

ah he was a 661 frost dk, not really sure how they are in keys ive only ever seen unholy but i guess that speaks volumes as to which is better?

[dense elbow]

FDK is like Fury, they fine

[smoky vale]

why did that mage do 0 damage

:ccccccccccccc

[dense elbow]

That mage is like Fury, they fine

[sand crest]

cause most wow players are trash at the game and dont care

want see score go up

dont want read guides

[smoky vale]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/254170190621835264/1113105101675036732/dratnos.gif

[dense elbow]

I would say something, but I am litteraly one of those players

OF goes burrrr

[smoky vale]

me when i play the game how i want

[warm crag]

my king dratnos

[smoky vale]

hi spongieandaschmidisilmarilensense

[flat river]

[glad coyote]

when is fury getting a buff ffs

[smoky vale]

https://tenor.com/view/robin-hood-fortune-teller-future-prediction-gif-25704815

[simple shell]

how long are u willing to bladestorm for reck?

[orchid dagger]

He doesn't know the first rule of Brown Class

[smoky vale]

if adds are coming probably

else probably 2-3 globals

[simple shell]

ok I was holding for 25 seconds sometimes

lmaoo

[smoky vale]

but thats just feelcraft

[rare garnet]

I see bladestorm I’m pressing bladestorm

[dense elbow]

Fury buffs either going to be:

• 3% Aura Buff
• 10% buff to TR and OF
  (The phone in buffs)

or

Something with actual impact.

[rare garnet]

45% buff to slam.

[dense elbow]

I will jump out the window if it is another set of Rampage, RB and BT buffs

[quiet breach]

warrior buffs confirmed coming?

or just speculation

[wanton patio]

sick gains from vault

[dense elbow]

Well, sure - confirmed, I guarnetee warrior will be buffed within the next 3 years

I do like that trinky

Gz

[red peak]

We''ll probably get a buff which syncs perfectly with the first raid of S1 Midnight. and immediatly eat 10 nerfs in a row again

[dense elbow]

"OF buffed by 150%:
Raid got 8 adds spawning on 45 sec intervalls, that got 4mill HP
"OF nerfed by 75%"
"WarcraftLogs now hides adds"

[red peak]

Basically lol

LIke I enjoy playing fury and i do somewhat well with it

[dense elbow]

I smell a but

[red peak]

I dont think its bad, but the 5 target cap on everything sucks balls

[dense elbow]

We will see what happens. Maybe another set of RB buffs will make things more fun

[red peak]

At the same time us being able to instantly deploy amazing AOE in S1 wasnt a great design

It was fun, but "technically" bad

[dense elbow]

I take fun any day of the week, I play the game for it

[red peak]

I want old RA back

[smoky vale]

@dense elbow :3

[dense elbow]

You want CB and BB charges back, for rotational reasons?

[dense elbow]

@smoky vale

[smoky vale]

did you see that noob mage

[flat river]

@dense elbow :3

[dense elbow]

All I see are noob mages, be more spesific

[smoky vale]

#fury message

[dense elbow]

Hard to say, looks like tank didnt pull around him

[smoky vale]

and swordish and gajeel oneshot all of the adds

[dense elbow]

Reported for trolling blueclass

better nerf warrior to make sure that doesnt happen again

[smoky vale]

i refuse to press flamestrike

so i do 0 damage with those 2 in a group

[dense elbow]

Just do 0, but be the best 0, for without 0 you cant get a 100

[main dock]

does the mechano-core amplifier drop from any delves?

[red peak]

I think it only drops from delves

[main dock]

but from any?

at the end from the boxes

[red peak]

https://www.wowhead.com/item=232485/mechano-core-amplifier#contained-in-object i think the Dropped by versions are only world quest level, so you need to get it from delve chests/vault

[main dock]

ah i see okay

ty

[red peak]

No worries, used it myself its not bad

[pale laurel]

is this trinket any good? I asume not since its champion track right

[red peak]

I'd sim It, I dont beleive its particulary good

[fickle cedar]

its quite bad

[burnt nacelle]

are there any fury gods who can look at my logs and tell me why I parse bad?

maybe skill issue tbh

[chrome plover]

#1347646810457636974

[reef totem]

Hey, sorry to ping you but saw you talking about that at one point @edgy widget

Can you explain me why does warrior player recommend to lower your spellqueue window ?
If I'm understanding it correctly I see 0 downsides having a higher spellqeue window:
If you have 400 -> you can cast a spell at 300 before gcd and if you change your mind you can use a different one at 100 before gcd and the last one will register.
If you have 150 -> pressing a button at 300 before gcd will do nothing and then pressing one at 100 before gcd will queue it.

I see no downsides on situation 1, can you enlighten me ?

[edgy widget]

on a mechanical level, there isn't really any inherent downside - the issue is that when you're playing a fast spammy spec like most melee, trying to play far ahead of the GCD tends to feel spongey and unresponsive, which leads players to make rotational mistakes as they have a harder time thinking that far ahead

[reef totem]

just a feeling thing ?

[edgy widget]

Well feel can impact gameplay, as I already described

arguably playing too far ahead also makes reacting to procs more difficult, since by the time you see the proc you've already sent the next action (though that kind of works both ways)

[smoky vale]

playing fire mage with delayed procs

[reef totem]

was curious about it because fire player recommend to stay at 400 SQW and thought it was a close enough comparison to fury as fire is mostly instant with off gcd cast in between and need fast reaction time

[smoky vale]

i havent looked much into it because im new to fire

i just press buttons

[eager thorn]

whats macro for using best-in-slots? /use 17 seems to be trying to equip it

[hardy bluff]

banezi kill

[oblique trail]

died on kill pull

classic

would've been rank 1 but I'll let someone else have it

[sour frigate]

charity run

[radiant sentinel]

i've got my spell queue at like 78 for some reason.. feel like i did it many years ago and never changed it, should i?

[civic bobcat]

Are you talking about the advanced options addon?

[edgy widget]

casters are generally more comfortable with longer queue windows because cast times give them more time to react

[sand crest]

if it aint broke, dont fix it would be my mindset

if ur gameplay feels smooth no reason to change anything

[edgy widget]

do not set it that low, 78 is practically non-existent

[radiant sentinel]

what would be the lowest you'd recommend?

100?

[edgy widget]

your average ms + 100, no lower than 150

[radiant sentinel]

hmm, okay. I'll give that a shot

is there negative impact having it that low you think?

[edgy widget]

the issue with this is that you can't really feel milliseconds except for in very large amounts

[radiant sentinel]

or i guess, what would the potential negative be?

[edgy widget]

Yes, the entire point of the spell queue window is to allow you to queue spells ahead of the GCD - compensating for latency (lag) and other factors such as physical reaction

so if you set it to 78, you're playing 0.078 seconds ahead of the GCD

doesn't sound like a whole lot of time, does it?

[radiant sentinel]

lol, definitely not

I will try it at 150 tonight

[edgy widget]

I think that's the part that people don't realize, its measured in milliseconds (0.001s), which are practically imperceivable except for in very large amounts

[smoky vale]

ping spikes are unplayable

yep

[versed perch]

Do you run improved whirlwind on every boss except for sprocketmonger?

[smoky vale]

not on mugzee?

[edgy widget]

and that's another thing, even if your average latency is 12-21 (US average within the same region's datacenter), your window not only need to compensate for that latency - which means an absolute minimum of 12-21

but it also needs to account for deviation - you can't do anything about the big obvious lag spikes where everything freezes for 3s, but latency is an average, so if it says 20, it's very likely more like 10-50 in practice

and then you also want to account for physical factors - reaction time, how long it takes you to physically actuate the keys on your board (which isn't a lot, but still non-zero)

The whole point to playing ahead of the GCD is eliminating the delay between the game recognizing the GCD is available, you pressing a key, and the system acknowledging that input

[radiant sentinel]

I think the reason I set it lower was i use to run a script a long time ago when i played combat rogue that would just spam sinister strike when i held down the 1 key

and probably just never changed it

[edgy widget]

it's not a very forward facing feature either

[radiant sentinel]

very true

[edgy widget]

the default used to be a lot lower too, it changed from 200 -> 400 in Legion

[radiant sentinel]

interesting

the other day I found a really old bookmark to the Arms Compendium from.. legion I think

that took me back

[civic bobcat]

basically you have to put something between 100~150 above your ms, right?

[final mountain]

are there any fury warriors that would be ok with doing a log review in dms?

[edgy widget]

the minimum recommended value is your average ms + 100, no lower than 150

very key to realize that lower is not universally better

if 400 is comfortable, and the desync doesn't bother you, leave it at 400

if you have 12 avg ms, but 200 feels comfortable, leave it at 200

[tepid cedar]

300 is like a sweetspot tbh

[edgy widget]

I think 200-300 is the best starting point for most people who find that 400 feels off

[gilded pawn]

its all personal

[civic bobcat]

fixed

[final mountain]

for some reason i cant post in the log review channel anymore

[civic bobcat]

thanks Arch

❤️

[warm crag]

why do you think that is

(read the last message posted in it, it's moved to #1347646810457636974)

[final mountain]

oh ok, i didnt see that. sorry about that im not reguarly in this discord, only when its to help my guild

[warm crag]

all good king

[silk wharf]

Just as a side note talking about things that changed. At a random point, without warning or note, in Dragonflight they changed how the mouse cursor acted when you held down either mouse button to look around. Before that point it instantly responded but after the out-of-nowhere change they introduced a sort of latency or lag to the effect making it so you had to move the mouse considerably off the click point to start camera movement.
There is a cvar to change it back: "Raw mouse enable"

[runic acorn]

Has anyone actually had viscera or lock n stalk outsim mechano core? Both are underperforming compared to mine.

[smoky vale]

hi

[smoky vale]

link your sim

[edgy widget]

I don't think I've ever noticed that, but I'll look into it, thanks

[runic acorn]

At work so cant link, but I have been simming with mechano core above lock n stalk, myth pacemaker (Single target sim), and vicsera at same ilvl. Sims are wanting more vers in my build as well

[fleet wave]

how is ratfang toxin trinket?

[silk wharf]

I disliked using it on my alt because while the stacks build nearly instantly it isn't instant.

so you have to wait a moment when you want to use it on pull

[verbal garden]

General question, the trash before last boss in Cinderbrew, do you ST one at a time or just AOE and focus one? This would be in a pug situation so not coordinated.

[young swan]

we dont lose anything to cleave, just make sure u pick one to die

[silk wharf]

The 4 dudes? Single target because they heal each other when one dies. In lower keys you can cleave and reduce healing so they dont full heal but in higher ones that just isnt possible.

[verbal garden]

Do you use any CDs at all there?

[fickle cedar]

yeah reck ravager roar, you'll get em back for the boss

[silk wharf]

Its a medium length fight, because it's essentially 4 single target elites, generally I do if they are up.

[verbal garden]

Just no TC or TB, correct?

[silk wharf]

maybe hold avatar if it comes up on the third one.

[fickle cedar]

just dont use avatar, the rest will be up

[twin sorrel]

What is the mastery and haste cap for fury warriors?

[silk wharf]

It took me way too long to figure out what TB was lol. Blast is thanes signature ability, always try to use them. Unbuffed regular clap is not worth using on those 4 mobs, not unless you are out of buttons to hit as it is better than nothing.

[silk wharf]

There aren't. There are thresholds at which point any stat becomes less valuable naturally and experiences diminishing returns, across all classes. The best way to know when that is happening, and most importantly relevant, to your individual character is to sim it using raidbots.

Long ago are the days of "get to X stat and stop", at least when it comes to warrior.

[dire vigil]

You can also get the add-on called “True Stat Value” which shows how far away you are from diminishing returns

But even that probably won’t be truly indicative of say “max this bar then move to this bar” etc etc

[twin sorrel]

Cheers lads

[silk wharf]

While "go sim it" isn't the most elegant of answers it's the reality if you want the most informed opinion about your character.

[formal stump]

Anyone every figure out how to do the shadowmourn quest at this level?

I'm stuck on the Unholy infusion. Probably my oldest quest in my log lol

[silk wharf]

You could try punching him with no gear on.

Spec out of fury so you dont dual wield

[remote bobcat]

i think i remember taunting boss and then turning around

until its infused

or sum shit

[formal stump]

Shadowmourn has to be equipped I believe

even with all gear off and only shadowmourn I 1 shot him

[warped maple]

any good videos for fury

[simple pecan]

would a foam sword in mh, shadowmourne in offhand while specced fury, than go into prot spec so it's still equipped in your offhand?

[young swan]

taunt and turn ur back

u just need to get in the golem and eat some goo

[formal stump]

Then what? doesnt he have to go down to a certain hp to get to next phase to use abomination?

[young swan]

doesnt it just spawn eventually

maybe not

this vid im watching unequipped every item

from DF

[last sparrow]

how bad is holding bs for adds on rik mythic, like 10-20 seconds?

[young swan]

except the titular shadows edge ofc

[hybrid cloud]

Do we get a new full spark next week? I wanted to swap from arms to fury (I mostly focus on raid) but already spent the 2 I had on duskthread armor embells. Have 1 crest leftover, but can’t craft an ascendance gilded 2h until then.

[young swan]

prob fine

[last sparrow]

feel like its quite desynced but i guess thats cause the barrels have weird spawn times

[summer quail]

no joke i quite liked thane on rik

[fiery shard]

hey guys when i should use the best-in-slot buff

[modest condor]

with your cooldowns

[fiery shard]

yea but, recklesness or avatar

or dont care

the first is up

[modest condor]

first one that comes up

[edgy widget]

technically Reck -> Avatar is better since you generate more rage that way, but it only practically matters on the pull

Otherwise, because Berserker's Torment causes them to trigger one another, it doesn't matter what order they're used in

[sullen dove]

he talkin bout... best in slots

[edgy widget]

still relevant to understand how the cooldowns interact

if we weren't using Berserker's Torment, it would matter

[quiet breach]

is there a way I can see his exact talents?

[fickle bluff]

summary

[quiet breach]

ty

@cold gulch on ur 100 parse cauldron ur using pure ST talents. when they Colossus smash do u just ST one of the two then?

[plush zephyr]

Half spark and charge next week. Got spark this week.

[warm crag]

you have done well

[fickle bluff]

thank you father

[cold gulch]

yeah i just start hitting the other one aka if im on moneky(Torq) and they charge i start hitting the raptor(Florendo) and vice versa

[obsidian osprey]

ur the goat

[cold gulch]

❤️ , you just needed 1 pi and you would have gotten the 100 last week on sprocket

[obsidian osprey]

❤️ warrior pi

[edgy widget]

na he cleaves with full ST talents, he's just built diff

[quiet breach]

well Ive only ever used ST talents on sprocket so I didn't know how that worked

[rancid ledge]

xd

[smoky vale]

let them have fun

[flat river]

key% 0 parse

xd

[final mountain]

would any other fury warriors be able to take a look at my post in help and log review? owo

[next ruin]

My guild struggles with add damage, I also thought of switching to Mt. But realized there might not be enough instant damage

[floral frigate]

I been doing thane on rik mythic, its pretty good, I do a bit more than our other war doing slayer, and were both sim gear and on most fights close to each other

[next ruin]

Do you go 45s roar?

[floral frigate]

ya im running my m+ build on it

i forgot to move shockwave out to a surv talent most of the time lol

not that effects much

[next ruin]

I will try next week if we still struggle

[edgy widget]

Yeah... you can try to pool Thunder Blast charges, but outside of Avatar your burst is somewhat limited

and its likely the adds die within the span of Ravager anyway

[quiet breach]

does the ravager macro prevent the low ceiling clipping thing from ever happening?

like when u aim ravager and it activates on the ceiling instead of on the floor cuz ur camera is zoomed out

[floral frigate]

if you use the target self macro

ya it stops that from happening

[cedar quartz]

arms main playing fury for stix, im obviously doing something wrong but why are the top logs using RB so much less than i think we're meant to be

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Hk2PCMJF9Z8nvcBA?fight=11&type=damage-done&source=6 - log for example (is bad i know )

[modest condor]

i think you're misunderstanding something about the rotation if you think you're supposed to do this http://puu.sh/KrwBF/47a4e82838.png

[cedar quartz]

yeah i deffs am, any suggestions/someone who has explained rotation i can suss

[modest condor]

wowhead rotation should be good

[cedar quartz]

i think my issue is reading the wowhead guide says to BT with 3+ stacks of bloodcraze above 35% hp then i assume i just send it off cd at 35%?

[modest condor]

you can download a bloodthirst weakaura from #dps-faq for proper bt optimisation but if you dont want to then yeah you can just send it on cd below 35%

[upbeat plume]

anyone know off hand the rough difference between embellished wrist and cloak vs weapon and wrists (assume I have two myth weapons that arent the cantrip ones)

[silk wharf]

I answered a different question. LOL
I havent simmed double vers vs ascendance pair since last season but it was like 8k then.

[cedar quartz]

right so based on the WA i should be sending BT at 85% and 40% (with VC active)

[modest condor]

yeah

[upbeat plume]

ah well It was like 2.5% but I didnt put secondaries on the weapon lol once I corrected that and going with a 678 off hand, the difference is like 900dps lol

debating so I can have better sets between both specs

and my guilds moving to the fights that arms is better for soon

[haughty basin]

whats the deal with Mister Lock N Stalk trinket

[quiet geyser]

Its strong?

[feral ivy]

any tips for mythic stix?

1st time today

[quiet geyser]

Stupid fight

Also play Mountain thane. More enjoyable

[coarse nest]

Cooldowns come up before ball timings

I always held to make sure I wasn’t picked

Once you’re picked you can freely send for the next like 3 ball timings

[feral ivy]

so is it always everyone gets picked and then repeats of same ppl?

never same?

on same pull*

[clever belfry]

it rotates

it can not pick the same player before everyone has been picked

excluding dead people

[coarse nest]

Maybe I have bad info but what I was told is it prefers people who haven’t done it yet

[clever belfry]

so u can get like uhh set 5 and 6 back to back

[feral ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-notes-noted-gif-26232003

[coarse nest]

Ok yeah anda would know better then me and were on the same page

[clever belfry]

hate knowing things about this shit game

most important thing on that fight is
pick up ur recycler man
do not hit bombshells with ball
soak bomb if its yours
do not set more trash ablaze

rest kinda doesnt fucking matter honestly.

[fathom wolf]

Do ball right and kill adds before other people can hit them so you look better. Easy.

[feral ivy]

tyty i think the only thing im worried about is fucking up the ball but i was told to toggle "rp walk" so it turns faster

[clever belfry]

doesnt work anymore

hasnt worked in idk 3 weeks

[feral ivy]

ok good that seems annoying to do anyways

[forest vale]

Which is better: using Rampage right after Bladestorm, or using Raging Blow a few times before Rampage? Simc says the latter is better

[feral ivy]

my whole raid got wa download??? called "!lib wa version check" anyone know what that is it just popped on the screen and opened /wa it self

[torpid elbow]

which do i craft and i havent gotten the cinderbrew neck hero piece yet i just have a champion equipted and i was wondering should i craft a neck or farm out my hero bis neck or go ahead and craft a neck since its "considered a myth tier bec of 675"

[clever belfry]

liquid aura updater has a version check, MRT also has one built in.
Idk what u have there tho lol

[feral ivy]

it was very weird whole raid got it and no clicked anything

stupid question does meld make pylon take u off?

[clever belfry]

Don't bother

press reflect

ure full immune for 5s with it

very powerful

[feral ivy]

ah kk tyty

[edgy widget]

ok well I redeemed myself on sprocket

unfortunately I didn't realize I was still in AoE talents until the kill pull xD

not that there's really much of a difference for Fury, but still

[fathom wolf]

Bro depths woulda pumped

[winter shoal]

Fellas you ever just jump into the trash compactor

[edgy widget]

every death skip

[winter shoal]

I mean tlike that

[sonic atlas]

have you guys replaced your cyrces circlet yet? sims are putting 665 rings 100k dps up

[noble elm]

Replaced mine with the 665 haste/crit ring from top

Wasn’t actually an increase until 665

[thick fossil]

God damnit... I was parsing sooooo good on Stix. Then I get ball twice in a row.

[plush zephyr]

What were you running sir? Totally don’t want to copy you.

[winter shoal]

Probably the only single target build fury plays, that's recommended on wowhead

[edgy widget]

I was running AoE talents lol, don't copy that - there's no AoE on the fight

[plush zephyr]

😂 okay I thought you were dipping some special sauce

[edgy widget]

no, that's why it was unfortunate!

[scenic halo]

when do i replace cyrces, i have rich uncles endowment ring and football champ ring. footballchamp ring is hero 658 but if i rip that up to 665 will that replace cycres?

[ivory ingot]

Its only like 100k worse or something

[feral ivy]

stix mythic if ur ball can u roll over fire? or no?

[edgy widget]

yes

[ivory ingot]

Is execute a dead global for Thane?

[slim coral]

pretty much

just pretend it doesnt exist

[ivory ingot]

Fury Thane 3 button rotation

[edgy widget]

Four, you have Thunder Clap

[ivory ingot]

True

[feral ivy]

anyone have a good portal addon or wa?

[young swan]

I think I use portalmenu

lemme check

pretty close

[feral ivy]

hmmm i like this mmmkk tyty

[rocky locust]

When is a good time to use Rallying Cry during Mythic Cauldron of Carnage?

[feral ivy]

i used mine during intermissions

my RL didnt have a timer for mine but that was big dmg time or u can use it when they are throwing toys

[compact knot]

during bladestorm

in intermission

[junior gale]

raid lead didnt assign it sorry guess im not using it

no 10% more hp for you losers

[chilly fractal]

Don’t waste the global if they don’t ask for it

[edgy widget]

means you can use it as a personal

[odd garden]

are we thinking consecrated cloak this week or a second 2hander in a couple weeks

[sinful spoke]

Like crafted?

U only do second crafted if i dont have a way of getting a myth weapon

And we are getting dinars

So

Dont

[odd garden]

yah crafted

so cloak city?

[edgy widget]

we have no idea when dinars are coming, so I wouldn't bank on that

[edgy widget]

craft what you need

[odd garden]

i need both boss thats why im asking

i think ill stick to the cloak and hope to allah i can grab a mythic weapon

[sullen dove]

crafting 2nd weap is like... next to never the best thing to do

[odd garden]

word ty

[sullen dove]

2 pretty good raid weaps to have as offhands with cantrip shit

but yea eventual probably myth weap from vault insta invalidates the 2nd craft

waste of a ton of crests too

[odd garden]

weewwwwww its settled

[chilly fractal]

Finally got a Myth track weapon... unfortunately its the Stix weapon

[sullen dove]

weapon is a weapon