May be tad outdated…
#fury
sullen dove
warm crag
ye i told it to update to df s2
to tww s2
we love the racial table that literally only includes the two races you mentioned
and ask them to ghiblyfy it
fast mural
is there a way to sim lock n stock trinket for both versions
cause i have no idea if i have to switch it during a fight or just go one mode or the other
warm crag
is there a way to sim lock n stock trinket for both versions
cause i have no id...
sim just changes the trinkets behaviour to the target count it faces iirc
clever belfry
me when they encoded the version...
sullen dove
clever belfry
gg.....
cunning grail
.
clever escarp
one more 14 and I got the resilent. So lets both cook those fury keys!
I love seeing fury´s grind this season!"
and dont givin on arms xD
flat river
fuck arms, true warriors only go fury
clever escarp
100%
fair thistle
fuck arms, true warriors only go fury
hehe
timed a 14 recently
no need to be arms
lets climb this shit
clever escarp
We are the main character spec!
flat river
real
clever escarp
we life we zughzugh
smoky vale
true warriors go 🔥 🐲
real
smoky vale
fuck arms, true warriors only go fury
wrong
plush zephyr
fuck arms, true warriors only go fury
I felt this way as an Arms only player then realized both are extremely fun and have both their own niches
smoky vale
no fury just feels worse to play because of last tier
supple estuary
If fury wasn't 5 capped I'd play it but blizzard detected fun
deft vessel
even better
quiet geyser
That would be silly tbh, 7 additional targets (even nerfing it to the original 50% to compensate a lil), would be perfect.
The other bigger fix would be uncapping the capstone abilities. Roar, bs, rav, and OF should all be uncapped imo
deft vessel
i’d be interested to see how we perform in m+ with 7 cap then reduced beyond 7
i wonder if it would make bladestorm worth using more
quiet geyser
i wonder if it would make bladestorm worth using more
What?
Bs/rav are already worth using lmao, they just suck compared to other specs uncapped blow ups
deft vessel
in m+ specifically, i feel like i hardly see any fury use it outside of raid?
quiet geyser
Thats due to rav being better for thane
supple estuary
I'm sad arms warrior doesn't use bladestorm like the most iconic arms warrior ability never used
But yeah 7 target is probably a good middle ground
deft vessel
Yeah but i was asking if bs would be used more if we didn’t have the 5 hard cap but if we had a 7 cap or reduced beyond 5
remote bobcat
I'm sad arms warrior doesn't use bladestorm like the most iconic arms warrior ab...
MS and BT are more iconic than BS, fight me on that
deft vessel
because ya know where getting out performed by fucking destro warlocks because of it
quiet geyser
Yeah but i was asking if bs would be used more if we didn’t have the 5 hard cap ...
Both BS and rav are already 8 cap, not 5
remote bobcat
because ya know where getting out performed by fucking destro warlocks because o...
whats the issue with getting outperformed by destro?
tf
deft vessel
whats the issue with getting outperformed by destro?
destro literally cannot move and cast brother, i love my destro lock but we should not be getting smoked by them
deft vessel
Both BS and rav are already 8 cap, not 5
did not know that my fault
remote bobcat
destro literally cannot move and cast brother, i love my destro lock but we shou...
man what are you even on about
you dont seem very knowledgea
able
i cant speak
quiet geyser
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Make Capstone AoE abilities (roar, bladestorm, ravager, and OF), uncapped since you know, capstone abilities are kinda suppose to be super strong aren’t they?
-
Make whirlwind buff affect 7 additional targets instead of 4 (would even be fine with compromising with nerfing the cleave down to the original 50% to affect 3 additional targets).
Fury fixed for m+. 😌
supple estuary
MS and BT are more iconic than BS, fight me on that
Yeah I'll give you MS I just remember when I first played I was a night elf warrior spinning watching swifty videos
remote bobcat
Yeah I'll give you MS I just remember when I first played I was a night elf warr...
yea but thats just you, one out of millions
supple estuary
Just let me spin bro
brittle bluff
yo guys is there any gud odyn's fury slayer builds out there?
clever belfry
no
clever escarp
1) Make Capstone AoE abilities (roar, bladestorm, ravager, and OF), uncapped si...
is not poss. ask Blizz team that designs raid. Cause of these mini add cleve fights there nerfed. Fury so broken on Anshurek they are bottom to top in a sec on fckin weebs xD. And everyone was crying out loud
So they cant change to uncapped otherwise everyone is gonna cry, that we´re first in raid by far again
fair swallow
No need to change to uncapped just make it to 8 targets
clever escarp
And your second point is a bit valid. But Blizz wants us to cleave over 5 targets not 7 which would be fine, if we even would be first in 5 target cleave, but even there we lose against alot of classes. So maybe first put the % up to a bit more and lets have a look
remote bobcat
is this normal? lol
ive seen this happen a lot actually
clever escarp
No need to change to uncapped just make it to 8 targets
it is beyond8 mate
remote bobcat
eye of kezan pumping too many stacks
clever escarp
like rav.
roar was the most scuffed nerf but blizz needed to calm down the comunity asap otherwise they would have cried lots more
fiery flame
what if brigitte was the warrior healer blizzard didnt launched on WoW?
clever escarp
And about the odyns fury thing is like. It was clear that they will do somth. like that to swap that playstyle again like legit every 1 to 2 season.
remote bobcat
20 stacks in 2:30
reference from my group
clever belfry
roar was the most scuffed nerf but blizz needed to calm down the comunity asap o...
Well roar wasnt actually really nerfed
clever escarp
it was
clever belfry
The initial was capped more
clever escarp
from uncapped to beyond 5 xD
clever belfry
Wrong
clever escarp
wasnt it uncapped or did they have it 8 befor cant remember
clever escarp
even that is big xD
clever escarp
yea not the dot
left perch
roar damage is from dot not initial
fair swallow
Honestly I think if they just make mountain thane increase the target cap of thunderclap that'd help a lot
left perch
anda and me twinning again
clever belfry
The bigger thing is, our other abilities got turbo buffed while capstones didn't
clever escarp
but its dmg we lose xD
left perch
clever belfry
so its out of whack
clever escarp
but its not that hard ye
gilded pawn
roar was the most scuffed nerf but blizz needed to calm down the comunity asap o...
The roar nerf did nothing btw
The dot is still uncapped
clever escarp
yea it was still scuffed xD
clever belfry
If youre gonna complain (with good reason) atleast be correct about it. Its easy to missconstruct your argument if you make false claims oki
left perch
They also don’t nerf the best part of roar (audio clip) so we gucci
clever escarp
i said you´re right there and i forgot about that part xD
remote bobcat
is this normal? lol
LMAO
clever escarp
soz
red berry
the roar did nerf did make it ever so slightly worse when frankly unnecessary
remote bobcat
bdk
clever escarp
the roar did nerf did make it ever so slightly worse when frankly unnecessary
that was mostly what I wanted to say. Mb on that
fair swallow
Thunderclap cap to 8
clever escarp
would be fine thoo ye
red berry
yeah no thunder blast/clap to 8 along with a 5-10% damage boost would help
fair swallow
Would make the ability stronger and with mt procs would help fury a lot in m+ without being too broken
fair thistle
my men discussing about capping to 8 while drood, mage, udk absolutely obliterate packs
would be very good i agree
fair thistle
but this gap is so high
fair swallow
there are some solutions but blizz is scared about raid since s1
That's why tying it to the mainly m+ spec would both help us and keep raid safe
clever escarp
its a mil gap or so
gilded pawn
There’s a different between obliterating packs in 20 seconds vs doing it on 3 gcds
fair thistle
it can go to 7-9M gap
clever escarp
That's why tying it to the mainly m+ spec would both help us and keep raid safe
ofc but you know blizz thats what I mean. Better do noth and wait it out then raging the rest of the comm
but it doesnt xD
fair thistle
depending on with which spec u play & packs/dung
fair thistle
overall it can go to 2/2.5 i think
clever escarp
wait a sec
fair thistle
when i see a udh doing 5M5 overall while i barely do 3.2 on cinderbrew
i maybe play that bad
but i do'nt think i'm THAT bad
and this was on a 13
fair thistle
no arms
glad tinsel
Join in on the discussion (If anyone has reddit) https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/1jrf1jf/target_cap_on_certain_classes_outdated_or_not/
clever escarp
I have to say fury is okay this season expect the big ass pulls
remote bobcat
Join in on the discussion (If anyone has reddit) https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/co...
reddit discussions oh lord
remote bobcat
and its on r/wow and note r/competitivewow as well
how to shoot urself in the foot
iron portal
I have to say fury is okay this season expect the big ass pulls
Big pulls. Bigger pulls. Giga pulls. Not even best at 5 target cleave
remote bobcat
you in in ST as fury?
red berry
honestly ive seen contradicting things about five target cleave where fury is concerned
remote bobcat
you must not have done any high keys
clever escarp
I have low prioritys after all that
red berry
i think i did say that a 5% buff to cleave would feel better i think
it wouldn't fix the disparity of mass uncapped AoE
but it would allow us to better catch up in between pulls
clever escarp
everyone says but ye who will know it
clever escarp
we will never ig xD
near phoenix
is thunderlords crackling good for fury>?
red berry
i also said that ground current shouldn't be capped to 5 targets. since it does nothing.
remote bobcat
is thunderlords crackling good for fury>?
it outsims stormbringer for me, sim it.
quiet geyser
Uncap capstones!!!!
gilded pawn
Then why are they called CAPstones
quiet geyser
Cuz they throw stones at caps
Therefore shouldn't have a cap
😏
Blizz is cooking fury changes specifically for m+ guys for .5
remote zephyr
I think arms needs more help than fury in general, Fury just has a better kit imo
Arms should get a rework
Every time they go to buff arms they just giga buff their damage to compensate, then realize they went too far and nerf them back down
quiet geyser
I think arms needs more help than fury in general, Fury just has a better kit im...
If you mean in enjoyment to play, I'd agree.. if we're talking m+ performance, which has been the topic in here for the last few hours.. I think you're high
remote zephyr
I'm speaking for all content pvp included
red berry
i think people have been asking for a rework for arms for awhile
edgy widget
they kinda just did
quiet geyser
i think people have been asking for a rework for arms for awhile
To be fair, fury's WW mechanic has also been a topic of discussion to be reworked for awhile. Mind you, mountain thane kinda did lol
timber hare
Ain't that the truth
summer quail
they kinda just did
ehh rearrangement. and imo it plays worse than DF, tho that is mostly because of slayer and not arms baseline
clever belfry
sl*yer
edgy widget
rearrangement, plus a half-new playstyle, using different talents
red berry
i think arms doesn't really need to be touched up in terms of numbers. mechanics aside, but that's not my lane. i do think furys AoE numbers need a touchup, but that's also probably not going to happen. again, it baffles me that they've not touched any tuning at all aside from the once. there's classes that could use a touchup
remote zephyr
Skullcrusher build in DF and ignore pain being part of the rotation later was cool
until skullcrusher or colossus smash gets parried by the boss or smthn
red berry
people hated ignore pain being a part of the rotation
edgy widget
you can still play Skullsplitter, like it's not downbad lol
remote zephyr
that was always annoying
I fucking loved ignore pain being part of the rotation I never died
ever
timber hare
Y'all think there will be some more class tuning soon or pretty set in stone for now
edgy widget
Honestly I just hate pressing Ravager I think it's lame
but this
edgy widget
Skullcrusher build in DF and ignore pain being part of the rotation later was co...
and this
is the problem lol
remote zephyr
I use it in colossus pvp I think it's underrated
edgy widget
people don't want "options" they want their favorite thing to be best
and if it isn't strictly considered best, they don't consider it an option
remote zephyr
Well you also had arms avatar keystones in DF
which were good
then in TWW they just made them kinda dogshit
for no reason
edgy widget
they were kinda too good lol
clever belfry
(berserkers wasnt an avatar capstone)
summer quail
Skullcrusher build in DF and ignore pain being part of the rotation later was co...
lmao this was the worst part of DF arms imo. skullsplitter making your next mortal strike do no damage was so ass. using a defensive for damage purposes
remote zephyr
Huh I loved ignore pain
unkillable
to each their own
Like Fury and Arms has the recklessness/avatar keystone talent, but arms just doesn't have a recklessness to cast
I don't understand that
summer quail
but majority of the time the damage you ignored with ignore pain did not matter in raid. it was just gone by some ticking dot or something, thing that would have been passively healed. you did not press it because it made you live, you pressed it because it got you more damage.
edgy widget
Like Fury and Arms has the recklessness/avatar keystone talent, but arms just do...
Yeah cause Recklessness isn't an Arms ability, just like Col Smash isn't a Fury ability
quiet geyser
Huh I loved ignore pain
You might legit be the only person. The general consensus was it was hated.
edgy widget
regardless of how strong it was, the fact that Arms could get nearly as high an uptime on Reck as Fury from a single talent proc was kinda bonkers
remote zephyr
fury has reck and avatar, they basically get double the usage out of the talent is what i mean
edgy widget
yes and Arms has Avatar & CS
Reck is a Fury ability, not an Arms one
Arms only gets it through the Torment proc, and the fact that it could have a comparable uptime to Fury that way was kinda dumb
edgy widget
Colossus Smash is stronger than Avatar
quiet geyser
I think colo smash isn't a great ability though
For its short CD, it pretty fucking strong
remote zephyr
I mean in general, having to choose between AoE or ST, being parryable, being a debuff instead of a buff on you
I never liekd it
getting shadowmelded in pvp like oh my days
edgy widget
it's 30% for 10s on a 45s (shorter w/ AM)
vs 20% for 20s on a 90s
modest condor
avatar is honestly such a weak cooldown
edgy widget
Avatar was fine when it first came out, but there's been a ton of multiplicative power creep over the years
these days, every 3rd effect is some amount of "+20% increased damage on..."
twilit harbor
Bigger damage bonus on a 0s* CD with Rampage!
surreal garnet
Question - what citrines are we using in m+ as fury? 🙂
brazen oar
hello, how target capped is fury atm?
edgy widget
that said, I'm not sure the strength of Avatar is really a problem either, guess it depends on whether you wanna be a really cooldown driven spec or not
rare garnet
Make avatar passive. I am the avatar. Your size increased by 40%.
edgy widget
hello, how target capped is fury atm?
very
quiet geyser
I feel like both ava and reck need to have a little extra oomf to them. Like the passive dmg is nice.. but they should do fancy shit, like Some form of RAs bleed should be built into reck. Maybe during Avatar, every 4th ability used sends out tremors for extra dmg. Fits the theme
edgy widget
a bit more than
bitter iris
Hey all , a quick question on fury Mountain Thane rotation , post the opener , do you all priortize Raging blow or blood thirst ?
edgy widget
yes
tepid cedar
very
Kept failing 15 priory playing fury barely. 2nd ust pull after first boss just a pain in the ass. Swapped to arms. 1 key timer. Just the change in aoe damage was the game changer. Finished with like almost 3 minutes remaining I think. Fury needs something.
You think we will see any changes on .5?
edgy widget
nope
rare garnet
I just spam BT, I wanna heal. I don’t care. Let me lose damage. I’m trying to heal parse. In X situation you RB, in Y you BT except if Z… nah, nah nah… we healing baby.
edgy widget
Blizz rarely tunes for M+, certainly not higher M+
As long as the class is capable, they tend to just let it be until the next season
tepid cedar
What would you like to see Archi
edgy widget
peace and goodwill?
quiet geyser
Sad reality is fury doesn't even dominate in its 5 target niche lol
edgy widget
lower GPU prices
quiet breach
my cinder neck has +speed on it
tepid cedar
peace and goodwill?
Not with US current president
quiet geyser
Yo other news, switch 2 gonna cost $1000 now xD
edgy widget
I wouldn't mind an icecream float tbh...
rare garnet
Blizz tuning M+: can the class get the mount? Then it’s fine. Anything over that is players mental illness were not worried.
edgy widget
I think that ship sailed long before
edgy widget
What would you like to see Archi
Bloodborne 2
quiet geyser
Duskbloods
rare garnet
Yo other news, switch 2 gonna cost $1000 now xD
No tech will ever be affordable with scalpers and bot buyers and the artificial scarcity produced by the companies that make this stuff. MSRP is some boomer stuff. 2500 for a switch 2 is pure and good.
edgy widget
"we have bloodborne 2 at home" 
quiet geyser
No tech will ever be affordable with scalpers and bot buyers and the artificial ...
Dude sad reality is im canadian and it's gonna affect us
gilded pawn
Honestly switch 2 being 450 isn’t even that much
quiet geyser
Gonna cost me $1200 to buy the damn console
gilded pawn
All things considered
edgy widget
I have zero interest in Duskbloods - don't want a PvEvP game and I'm sure as shit not getting a Switch just for it either
gilded pawn
Wtf
golden hare
owned
edgy widget
Wtf
Your message could not be delievered.
something something something, I didn't read the rest
gilded pawn
Yeah that’s the notification you get when someone blocks you
quiet geyser
I have zero interest in Duskbloods - don't want a PvEvP game and I'm sure as shi...
I'm a sucker for nintendo sadly. Kinda wish they showed more first party games in the direct
gilded pawn
Or not in a mutual server
Somehow I got it in a public channel
Being Canadian is tough lol
versed coyote
is there a sim out there showing fury dps in execute?
gilded pawn
is there a sim out there showing fury dps in execute?
Sim your own character in execute patchwork
rare garnet
I have zero interest in Duskbloods - don't want a PvEvP game and I'm sure as shi...
Is WOW on the Switch2? Then why do I care. EZ.
warm crag
can probs get it on there if you're creative enough
celest sierra
is fury gear stats the same as arms?
warm crag
no but you can do fine on both with "wrong" stats
chilly plume
winter shoal
arms does better with haste/mast than fury does with crit/haste but it's not a huge deal
fickle cedar
I have zero interest in Duskbloods - don't want a PvEvP game and I'm sure as shi...
both nightreign and duskbloods are not quite appealing to me, i do prefer a more singleplayer focused experience personally 
heard khazan was good tho
edgy widget
Khazan looks decent, I'll pick it up at some point, but don't think it'll have that much longevity
I've actually been enjoying AC: Shadows a lot more than I thought I would
fickle cedar
Oh haven't tried it yet, mostly looking forward to expedition 33, haven't played an rpg in a while
feral acorn
im only guy who house of card undersim by mile, have enegery dring hero btw
edgy widget
AC games typically fall off pretty fast for me, not a huge fan of open world / clear the map of markers type games
fickle cedar
AC games typically fall off pretty fast for me, not a huge fan of open world / c...
yeah it becomes a checklist, i get a bit burnout or rush the story mode and be done with it x)
fervent yoke
Persona 6 wya doe
edgy widget
but this one is a lot better about it, since there are a lot more (however minor) narrative efforts behind a lot of them, and as much as I was skeptical of the dual protagonist thing, they actually did a really good job making their gameplay feel distinct
woven valley
Black flag will forever be the best AC for me
edgy widget
also the game environment is phenomenal, especially the weather systems; it's a minor thing in the grand scheme, but really nice touch
only complaint is I wish the combat were a little deeper, but that's a common theme among most action games these days - I will forever be spoiled by Nioh
fickle cedar
only complaint is I wish the combat were a little deeper, but that's a common th...
I loved the combat in nioh but I honestly got a bit pushed away by the constant loot spam, I like optimizing my gear so I realized I was spending so much time menu browsing and comparing items 
edgy widget
Yeah it's a little oversaturated but you quickly learn that the "optimization" doesn't really exist until you reach at least NG+1 (although practical buildcrafting doesn't exist for most players until +2 or 3)
until then you can just equip the highest weapon and armor (or just get whatever early set bonus you want and literally never change your armor, which is what I usually do)
fickle cedar
Yeah I should probably have taken that aspect a bit more lightly, I tend to get concerned about optimizing I suppose
edgy widget
once you get into the higher difficulties where you stop replacing your weapon with higher level one after every mission, you can just turn on the in-game loot filter to auto-hide everything below divine (and later ethereal) rarity
edgy widget
Yeah I should probably have taken that aspect a bit more lightly, I tend to get ...
not your fault - the game really does make it seem like you should care, but from a practical standpoint you just don't get access enough of any of the affixes to make a difference until much higher level
and that is a minor failing for sure; I do wish buildcrafting were a little better represented in the early game
gilded pawn
archi did you like wukong
edgy widget
honestly, no
edgy widget
archi did you like wukong
sorry I was actually thinking Wo Long here (the other Team Ninja game after Nioh 2) - I didn't play Wukong
edgy widget
Wo Long was dumbed down too much
gilded pawn
But it’s a good filler game
edgy widget
and depended too much on the gimmicky counter system
fickle cedar
not your fault - the game really does make it seem like you *should* care, but f...
That's fair, I do prefer when loot is more unique in general than randomized stats so maybe that wasnt helping, is jumping into Nioh 2 a reasonable option or is it a direct sequel ?
woven valley
Elden ring 2 when!?
Switch 2 has what is essentially bloodborne 2 so there’s that
edgy widget
it felt too much like Sekiro, fun enough but very one-dimensional
woven valley
Called duskbloods or something like that
quiet geyser
Dragon age veilguard - most underhated game. Hot pile of crap
fading sky
I mean it got looooads of hate
quiet geyser
Not enough
fading sky
I tried for 10min got sad it wasnt dark anymore quit
edgy widget
I didn't play Veilguard, it just didn't look good to me; from the bits I saw the writing/story sucked, and the gameplay was mid at best
fading sky
So i dno. Only seen the memes
edgy widget
That's fair, I do prefer when loot is more unique in general than randomized sta...
Nioh 2 is exactly like the first but better in every way
- it is more complicated though, because on top of everything in the first game, you now also have Soul Core abilities - they open up a lot of new combat options, but it's also more inputs to juggle
coarse nest
Anytime now
woven valley
Veil guard isn’t the worst game ever made by far. It just didn’t have a real audience for what they made. That’s what happens when you give up all the things that make your game what it is to chase buzz words
fickle cedar
metaphor was peak, i do recommend
quiet geyser
I didn't play Veilguard, it just didn't look good to me; from the bits I saw the...
Theres obviously the big topics ppl didnt like which i shouldnt say out loud.
But honestly even the character models.. like it was so poorly done. You'd be in a dialog where the worlds ending and your character is like smiling
candid falcon
The only thing I know about metaphor is that people are super thirsty for the characters
edgy widget
Theres obviously the big topics ppl didnt like which i shouldnt say out loud.
...
My criticism is completely aside from those "big topics" and frankly I don't want to hear any of those arguments in here
to me, the writing just didn't seem to be very good (not the content of the writing, but the actual quality of it)
quiet geyser
Ya it was bad
Dragons dogma 2 was kinda fun.. the story needed to be like 4x longer though lol
It was so short
edgy widget
I don't just form an opinion from nothing; I looked at a lot of previews, which just didn't seem to be that exciting for me, and then later post-launch gameplay didn't do anything to change that feeling, so I skipped it
Dragon's Dogma 2 had the same problem as 1, it's great framework that just lacks depth
quiet geyser
Some1 mentioned it, but it's funny cuz the previous game, inquisition.. was actually quite good
edgy widget
if they released 3 or 4 expansions, it'd probably be great, but they just don't ever bother to
quiet geyser
Dragon's Dogma 2 had the same problem as 1, it's great framework that just lacks...
The combat was fun though, but ya very lil depth. However it was a laggy pile of crap on console
edgy widget
the combat was decent, yeah
woven valley
Dragons dogma 1 was saved by the dark arisen expansion, the second game needs the same thing to be honest to bring it up to snuff
edgy widget
yup
woven valley
The og game for dd1 was horrible
quiet geyser
There was a lot of side quests and secrets... but if you're a main storyline enjoyer, it was so short. Basically go to first town, talk to a few ppl, go to small encampment in middle, go to third town, games over
edgy widget
why I said, if they would release 3-4 expansions that each put in the same level of improvement, the games would probably be phenomenal
woven valley
Agreed
gilded pawn
Veil guard isn’t the worst game ever made by far. It just didn’t have a real aud...
It was made to check boxes
edgy widget
but they just... don't, and so the games end up being memorable but kinda mid overall
quiet geyser
When the game ended I legit blurted out loud "wait what, that's it?"
woven valley
I love the dragons dogma series overall, just wish it got more content
edgy widget
That's fair, I do prefer when loot is more unique in general than randomized sta...
for reference btw, I have ~500 hours in Nioh 1 and almost 1.5k in Nioh 2, so yes I would highly recommend it to anyone who likes the style
actual hours, not PoE afk in hideout hours 
red berry
veilguard did not want to be a dragon age game. it did not follow the themes. ideas. anything, that resembled origins. even inquisition did better by the other two games
dusk jackal
good morning Skyhold
edgy widget
I need to play KCD (1 and 2) just never got around to it
edgy widget
Ragnarok was fantastic, but I also just tend to like narratively driven games more than "open world objective checklist" games
red berry
agreed.
stone merlin
Dragon's Dogma 2 had the same problem as 1, it's great framework that just lacks...
Precisely
With Veilguard, I think the biggest problem (politics aside) is that the story is a sequel to Inquisition but the gameplay is a sequel to Dragon Age 2. That’s not what people wanted or expected. Add in strange character models and out of place writing, and yeah it’s no surprise the entire development team was fired
woven valley
Dragon age 2 had great combat for its time but god its story and setting were dog water
undone flower
I need to play KCD (1 and 2) just never got around to it
I did maybe half of the first, the fight gameplay when there is more than 1 dude tilted me so much, but 10/10 everything else
stone merlin
Dragon age 2 had great combat for its time but god its story and setting were do...
Yep. Veilguard has great combat too, but just like #2 everything else about the gameplay sucks ass
edgy widget
I did maybe half of the first, the fight gameplay when there is more than 1 dude...
there have been a lot of mods which might help with that if you ever decide to revisit
woven valley
Yep. Veilguard has great combat too, but just like #2 everything else about the ...
My favorite part of da2 was the city, or was it the city? Or the other part of the city? Or the sewers yeah that was good
I love making fun of da2 cause of how limited it’s setting was
orchid dagger
there have been a lot of mods which might help with that if you ever decide to r...
To make the game easier? Skill Issue
edgy widget
to overhaul the combat
most mods of that sort don't actually make the game easier, if anything they tend to make it harder
stone merlin
My favorite part of da2 was the city, or was it the city? Or the other part of t...
LOL yeah, it was insane. I don’t think I’ve ever played a game with more backtracking than that. Maybe Pong, maybe
undone flower
Maybe I’ll give it a retry when new pc, but I understand KCD is realistic, but being alone in the first place is not (it is really minor thing I don’t like, I like the game)
edgy widget
"realistic" to a point anyway
undone flower
Yeah just the point that 1v2-3 you just lose IRL unless you have a gun
edgy widget
early game yeah; late game KCD not so much, you basically run roughshod over everyone
red berry
i dont think veilguard had any politics
edgy widget
but I'm just saying, there have been a lot of mods which have adjusted various parts of the gameplay, including combat - whether it's reducing master strike spam, making polearms actual weapons, changing controls, whatever - you might find something that better suits you
undone flower
I was at a point where I was full plate so it was bonk head with hammer top attack until I smash their helmet and they die (2 hits)
arctic salmon
im playing ragnarok right now and the atreus missions make me so mad
i just want to be kratos
edgy widget
the parts in Asgard as pretty good, though the Jotunheim bits are hit or miss
orchid dagger
i dont think veilguard had any politics
It 100% did, and that was a major component of why Failguard didn't sell
red berry
okay. everything has, 'politics'
arctic salmon
his bow is so clunky on mouse and keyboard, aiming speed goes to molasses
edgy widget
his bow is so clunky on mouse and keyboard, aiming speed goes to molasses
I thought you could adjust aim speed in the options? I always play controller though
iron portal
pretty sure you could
edgy widget
most games let you, but I really can't recall if Ragnarok specifically had one or not
arctic salmon
i guess it would probably share sens with the axe throw option
edgy widget
I should play again sometime, I actually never did the roguelite DLC
arctic salmon
ive barely scratched surface, like 15 hours in
edgy widget
yeah it's a big game, but a good one
arctic salmon
yea i played god of war 2018 with my cousin over like a month on his playstation, was a fun time
then we chained that into red dead 2
amazing games
iron portal
Soundtrack in God of War ragnarok just hits so god damn well
west parcel
Is fury good guys
frank dawn
gottem
thorny cove
After weeks of pugging and banging my head against the wall I finally did it guys. I finally got 3k. It's over.
warm crag
link your logs noob
summer quail
How do I stop being a grey parser
press buttons harder
warm crag
but ye press your cds press ur buttons
deft vessel
having both weapons enchanted also does wonders
thorny cove
warm crag
i dont think you need enchanted weapons to parse better than grey
idk why is rik reverb blue
are you not taking it seriously
summer quail
the real answer is get the weakauras for BT and execute sd. then you press raging blow and rampage until one of them makes sound then press those @west parcel
west parcel
Ok sounds good
deft vessel
also Hekili is a godsend if you’re switching classes/specs/hero talents often
fickle cedar
pressing bloodthirst more? or still raging blow?
Generally you are gonna press RB more but BT is gonna do more damage overall
iron portal
How do I stop being a grey parser
you start with green parsing
winter shoal
Get a haircut, be clean and well-dressed, hit the gym, be yourself 
winter shoal
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/tichondrius/gillick
Archi cooked insane with the Rik timings, if you ava (and 90s trink if you use it) like ~6s prepull then you have it for the 2nd and 4th barrel spawns
Makes your opener a little wack but you MILK the barrels
quiet breach
Archi cooked insane with the Rik timings, if you ava (and 90s trink if you use i...
are these timings on the wowhead undermine tips for fury warrior page
lemme check actually
fuck
why do I always type first before checking
winter shoal
are these timings on the wowhead undermine tips for fury warrior page
I doubt it, it's a mythic-only thing and the timings aren't 100% consistent so doesn't seem like the kind of thing that would be well-suited for a wowhead guide
I think he generally wants the information in the guide to be "best for most people in most cases", not "best for getting top logs in specific cases"
FWIW, the maxroll guide does it a little differently where you hold ava for 3rd barrel spawn and then have it for 5th spawn https://maxroll.gg/wow/class-guides/fury-warrior-raid-guide#liberation-of-undermine-header
Might be better depending on your kill time and when the other people in your group have cds
edgy widget
are these timings on the wowhead undermine tips for fury warrior page
If you're struggling with CDR, take Frenzied Enrage instead of Powerful and run Depths of Insanity instead of Deft Experience - just be careful to ensure you always Bladestorm immediately after Rampage or Enrage may fall off early
- Avatar ~6s before the pull so that it lines up better on 2nd & 4th barrel sets
- Reck / TR / BS on the pull
- BS and Reck as soon as they come off CD - ideally at least BS will hit barrels, but it's very RNG (first set tend to get obliterated anyway, which is why I don't hold on pull)
- Reck, BS, and Avatar should all come up with the 2nd set of barrels, but because we run Warlords Torment you don't actually need both Reck & Avatar before for Bladestorm - one will proc both buffs and you can use the other to extend the duration after
- Send BS anytime before the intermission and it should come back before you need it again
after the first intermission, you're just holding CDs for each set of barrels or a final "tunnel boss" call
- Unless you bungled something, Avatar should come up just in time for the 4th set
ornate gust
Get a haircut, be clean and well-dressed, hit the gym, be yourself <:yep:7034209...
Wisdom 👍🏼
edgy widget
Archi cooked insane with the Rik timings, if you ava (and 90s trink if you use i...
I wanna experiment with that more, cause I think you can get away with using Avatar regularly on the pull, as long as you have enough CDR to ensure Reck comes up before Bladestorm on barrel sets
I wasn't always able to before, but in higher gear now it seems pretty reliable
ornate gust
Archi cooked insane with the Rik timings, if you ava (and 90s trink if you use i...
This is how I use my cds in best case scenario. Cds are aligned with adds
edgy widget
yeah that's about what I was thinking - delaying the 2nd Avatar to 1:50 for the 3rd set of adds
downside is that you may not get full value out of it and you're almost certain to lose a cast of Avatar at the end, which I'm not sure is actually worthwhile
boss is already dying ~5:30-5:50 on the higher end, and with a couple more weeks of inflation that'll easily push down even further
kindred basin
This is how I use my cds in best case scenario. Cds are aligned with adds
0:20 second BS is insane
quiet breach
If you're struggling with CDR, take Frenzied Enrage instead of Powerful and run ...
thank u
quiet breach
If you're struggling with CDR, take Frenzied Enrage instead of Powerful and run ...
this is for mythic rik only? or heroic too?
edgy widget
timings are different on heroic, I think the barrels are at 20s, 1m, ~1:40, and 2:55
but the same logic generally applies
civic bobcat
This is how I use my cds in best case scenario. Cds are aligned with adds
Shit, is there more of this for other bosses?
this is dopaminergic
smoky vale
yeah that's about what I was thinking - delaying the 2nd Avatar to 1:50 for the ...
its probably worth if you have one warrior get 2nd and other get 3rd
because that boss is so annoying just dropping parse for reclears is probably worth
open wigeon
How much bloodlust contributes to overall damage? I know it's not exact but there should be an average
onyx summit
where can i get a build for underpin is there a channel here ?
edgy widget
its probably worth if you have one warrior get 2nd and other get 3rd
my groups aren't that coordinated, it's most like "everyone gets everything"
untold elbow
are stats/gear different for slayer? im doing more single target dps with mountain thane lol
edgy widget
but yeah if you're the 2nd War/big AoE class, it's often a good idea to desync to avoid overkill; you won't get the highest ranks that way, but you'll both probably do better than doubling up
smoky vale
mine isnt either but i would just ask swordish when he sends and i do opposite
edgy widget
are stats/gear different for slayer? im doing more single target dps with mounta...
nope
untold elbow
i might be fucking something up in the rotation then, weird
stark lantern
nope
Given that Mythic Strapped Keg Necklace can only come from myth vault, I reckon it's probably worth crafting a 675 necklace if vault rng isnt nice to us?
keen kindle
solemn estuary
Which race do you guys like more for Fury, Earthen Dwarf or Regular Dwarf?
chilly fractal
Which race do you guys like more for Fury, Earthen Dwarf or Regular Dwarf?
Why are these your only options
undone flower
Gnome
fading sky
Anythin but dorf
I was dwarf. Never again, mogs just dont sit right. Animations neither, 100% subjective
fickle cedar
gotta be orc im afraid
fading sky
Zugzug
undone flower
Sometime I have the I wish I was dwarf for this bc I’m tank
fading sky
Then i go but good mog worth.more
haughty osprey
Greetings, does anyone know if Mechano core trinket is still giga bis or no longer the case ?
haughty osprey
I see, thank you very much.
bitter palm
Sometime I have the *I wish I was dwarf for this* bc I’m tank
void elf for maximum damage as pwar
undone flower
Nah my stat weight told me to max aura stat, so gnome it is
bitter palm
real
solemn estuary
Why are these your only options
because i like dwarf lol
undone flower
Why black dwarf is not an option
solemn estuary
Because im a regular dwarf atm and was debating swapping to earthen for perma well fed buff
warm crag
you will likely lose dps and utility
but if you only care abt looks and rp do whatever you want king
edgy widget
dwarf only really matters if you're tanking
mint obsidian
void elf for maximum damage as pwar
velf is good for fury?
atm im human, kinda dig it
ngl
edgy widget
human and ve are both good damage options
VE glowed up a lot after its racial changes
clever belfry
(and its on use racial is situatuonally extremely powerful)
albeit a bit tedious to use efficiently
barren ore
anyone else has the problem that the secondary stats randomly change? (out of combat)
earnest canyon
anyone else has the problem that the secondary stats randomly change? (out of co...
Do you have an in combat trinket that buffs secondary stats
modest condor
flask of alchemical chaos probably
brittle fox
What trinkets is everyone running for m+?
fickle cedar
What trinkets is everyone running for m+?
pace and mechano, just try to avoid kezan generally unless you have nothing else
mild ravine
Pace?
fickle cedar
pacemaker
untold elbow
does vicious contempt damage proc from your target or from each separate hit target when you use it with whirlwind stacks
modest condor
seperate
untold elbow
ok so if only 1 enemy is low it doesnt proc for every target
modest condor
correct
untold elbow
awesome ty
barren ore
flask of alchemical chaos probably
you're right, thank you ^^
feral ivy
im fine with getting into dungeons but holy crap cinderbrew is the only one i have trouble gettting into
earnest canyon
Because you are warrior or because you are fury?
tribal trout
guys i have problems with aoe in single target i'm top dps but when it comes to aoe i suck as hell
i play in mythic with MT
i hit my cd's rec+ avatar -> ravengar -> thunder clap -> Rampage and raging blow and bloodthirst when 4 set buff
dont know whats wrong
i have 24875K mastery
tribal trout
with ravenger
edgy pumice
Is there any way to sim the lock n stalk trinket in aoe mode? Raidbots only shows it on st mode even tho I swapped before copying simc
tribal trout
yes
red berry
feral ivy
<:copium:839076283467431956>
thats normal lol
feral ivy
with ravenger
u still use roar in m+
tribal trout
yes i do use it
tribal trout
i hit all CDs
edgy pumice
<:copium:839076283467431956>
tuning happened??
tribal trout
feral ivy
when ravager is out make usre ur spamming Ramp> RB>ramp>RB>ramp
red berry
tuning happened??
no. i mean PvP but not PvE
red berry
thats normal lol
no shit
red berry
do you know what copium means
harsh barn
do you guys think we get buffed in the next patch? lol
pearl sequoia
silent aurora
we are falling down a bit these week in raid in term of damage ( mythic )
probably cause of 6th boss
wispy ermine
Is there any high m+ streamer playing fury? I only know Noxiv (And Critcake 1 out of 100 runs lol)
I want to learn from someones vod
jaunty hull
yo guys look im a colossus fury
feral ivy
debating should do brew and priory in arms just to get the i.o
harsh barn
I'm 665 on my warrior and just got out damaged by a 645 unholy dk man wtfff
lilac plinth
debating should do brew and priory in arms just to get the i.o
I just did psf 14 as fury
Was doing good
tidal kindle
I'm 665 on my warrior and just got out damaged by a 645 unholy dk man wtfff
Blood is life
violet condor
I'm 665 on my warrior and just got out damaged by a 645 unholy dk man wtfff
fury buffs soon
leaden tartan
the real answer is get the weakauras for BT and execute sd. then you press ragin...
Could someone tell me more about where to get these WAs? This is my first season getting properly sweaty and i am currently needing every lil bit of extra juice I can get to keep up with other DPS
feral ivy
I just did psf 14 as fury
had a pally and DH in brew and 1st pull everyones doing around 15k im around 8-10 lol
tepid cedar
I just did psf 14 as fury
14s feel decent still. 15s I noticed a diff. Flood and priory I had to do as arms
leaden tartan
https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1234949058121171069/134997333600...
Amazing ty, i'll go down that linked WA rabbit hole later as well
torpid elbow
when ravager is out make usre ur spamming Ramp> RB>ramp>RB>ramp
with the ww effect massive damage man
sour tundra
had a pally and DH in brew and 1st pull everyones doing around 15k im around 8-...
then a DK rolls in and does 47mil ive seen it
sour frigate
then a DK rolls in and does 47mil ive seen it
surely the sanlayn summon does like 27kk damage on explosion with huge target count
smoky vale
more
harsh barn
had a pally and DH in brew and 1st pull everyones doing around 15k im around 8-...
I do not keep up on brew at all
I'll be first in damage on every boss but I get absollutely destroyed in the big pulls
smoky vale
yes
karmic crow
generally is it better to use CD's on CD for stix or delay a couple seconds for balls to come in?
sour frigate
earnest canyon
generally is it better to use CD's on CD for stix or delay a couple seconds for ...
I find if I ever hold cds I do worse on everything, so I just send it
edgy widget
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1065665515328110725/1357270126709182594...
for Oracle? Yeah
edgy widget
generally is it better to use CD's on CD for stix or delay a couple seconds for ...
don't wait for balls to come in, just wait for adds
whether they come out of balls or not
karmic crow
don't wait for balls to come in, just wait for adds
fair
feral ivy
then a DK rolls in and does 47mil ive seen it
https://youtube.com/shorts/eQLRX9gouIw?si=meaeFAsc40Ao0Nyl not 47 but damn wtf
1 minute in wtf is that dmg
indigo arch
1 minute in wtf is that dmg
That's totally ok and fine
Fury during tww prepatch and week 1 of tww? Not fine blizz thankfully fixed us
so we can think about what we did during those "very" important parts of the game
for rest of xpac in m+
next ruin
had a pally and DH in brew and 1st pull everyones doing around 15k im around 8-...
Fury is good for the prio damage niche, you can't expect it to be good for mass aoe also, you have the arms spec for this. Switch between both (like other classes always do) depending on what your comp needs / the dungeon requires
And also what you enjoy playing. If you wanna do the mass aoe, maybe opt out of fury
sour tundra
https://youtube.com/shorts/eQLRX9gouIw?si=meaeFAsc40Ao0Nyl not 47 but damn wtf
From 1st pull in Cinderbrew. guess it wasn't 47 but pretty close
deft vessel
From 1st pull in Cinderbrew. guess it wasn't 47 but pretty close
bruh did you pull the entire first room and boss??
modest condor
hey that's my screenshot
silk wharf
That's one way to make sure you get value from bloodbeast. Just make the pull last long enough that you are effectively guaranteed a proc.
sudden tusk
sullen dove
@covert blaze ?
covert blaze
<@235857431492558848> ?
not me
sullen dove
your mog is sick
covert blaze
won't catch me playing a panda lol
left perch
won't catch me playing a panda lol
whatuwu about that one specioh time bb
lucid thorn
Maaaa! Fury chat's being weird again!!!
bitter palm
won't catch me playing a panda lol
hi zhai
covert blaze
whatuwu about that one specioh time bb
Susge
bitter palm
salutations
salutations huzz
sullen dove
covert blaze
hi swordish verbally assaulted me
elaborate
hallow sphinx
dense elbow
Any chances to see some Slayer, or Fury AoE buffs so it doesn't feel as bad to do M+? 
spark junco
clever belfry
arm vs leg
warm crag
highest damage taken lowest ehrps
effective health roleplay second
clever path
funny large angry man
Turbotopcone
bitter palm
Turbotopcone
Pauck
clever path
i expect 4 10s on my survival hunter
Hm okay
clever belfry
MONGOOSE BITE ‼️
noobgoose bite
hunters belong 40y away from the mob
get out of melee range
stinky stinky hunter
clever path
😂
oblique trail
Noobda speaking
clever path
MONGOOSE BITE ‼️
Do not play packleader in floodgate it is not worth it...
oblique trail
so manymore weeklies mens...
What you need to do is get a grip
Login it's Bangboo event time (I'm very late)
clever belfry
What you need to do is get a grip
ok mr limsa
im doing open world gambling event rn
bitter palm
hunters belong 40y away from the mob
noobs play ranged
bitter palm
Do not play packleader in floodgate it is not worth it...
noob...
oblique trail
ok mr limsa
I afk outside of Limsa on purpose noober
Unlike you afking in Limsa just to inspect every individual you see pass by
clever belfry
passing judgement on their plates
oblique trail
Passing 
gleaming siren
so manymore weeklies mens...
Noober
remote bobcat
Any chances to see some Slayer, or Fury AoE buffs so it doesn't feel as bad to d...
no stop asking
reef warren
heya, is it possible to have a macro that either uses whirlwind when playing slayer and thunderclap when playing mountain thane?
clever belfry
it is yes
reef warren
Cool which condition do need to set? Does it work with [known: slayer]?
remote bobcat
Cool which condition do need to set? Does it work with [known: slayer]?
known: thunderclap was the modifier iirc
oblique trail
Cool which condition do need to set? Does it work with [known: slayer]?
It has TC, WW and Slam, so basically an all in one AoE enabler/filler keybind
So for raid, it'd be your Slam bind as well in pure ST fights like Sprocket
clever belfry
reef warren
https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/148898695696482305/1346729036373...
Sick thank you!
dense elbow
no stop asking
remote bobcat
Good morning sigmas
clever belfry
Good morning sigmas
im more of an epsilon
remote bobcat
im more of an epsilon
+1 can confirm
burnt nacelle
Reject Esterogen
next ruin
Any chances to see some Slayer, or Fury AoE buffs so it doesn't feel as bad to d...
I'm sold on the prio damage copium, just commit to it, it will do great on most dungeons (except brew, floodgate and psf I'd say)
remote bobcat
Reject Esterogen
Reject Kiwi
burnt nacelle
Embrace kiwi 🥝
remote bobcat
man ur being weird
burnt nacelle
Thanks
clever belfry
Reject Esterogen
atleast spell it correctly buddy
burnt nacelle
No thanks
burnt nacelle
cobalt kernel
warm crag
esterogen just dropped
burnt nacelle
Fr
burnt nacelle
"sigmas" be like > reject estrogen < while eating 1lb of chicken a day
next ruin
Us sigmas can't even eat chicken anymore smh
remote bobcat
can we kick kiwi
burnt nacelle
Why
remote bobcat
Seems like the best course of action.
burnt nacelle
On what basis
indigo arch
Really wish I knew which extra chromosome is telling lfg tanks to sit in egypt out of melee range on blazikon
remote bobcat
its you
not explaining it
you can help improve the ocmmunity
or cry while dying
indigo arch
out of melee range, got it
fading sky
Yup
indigo arch
Oh I "improved the community" with MELEE RANGE in /s
fading sky
Og major defensives and pray
indigo arch
if a tank needs someone to tell them how a boss that doesn't move works
perhaps different role time
fading sky
Dstance + rergen
remote bobcat
Oh I "improved the community" with MELEE RANGE in /s
low chromosome warr
fading sky
Also ive never had that issue
But when u get fire circles where do u go?
Coz like ofnu arent doing mechanics tanknhave to
And u die
indigo arch
I'm sorry that I wasn't gentle when coddling someone who is responsible by the key level he is at to know to be in melee range
:))))))
I'll be inclusive and caring next time a tank wants to commit key terrorism
:)
fading sky
Do u move out and put fire on candles?
indigo arch
ofc
One of the melee swings taken was when fire wasn't even going out
LMAO
the shaman caught some strays too
next ruin
I'll be inclusive and caring next time a tank wants to commit key terrorism
Thank you for being inclusive next time and improving on yourself ♥️💯
remote bobcat
Do u move out and put fire on candles?
*and extinguish existing candles
indigo arch
Yes and extinguishing
fading sky
So if we get the stick once in a while seems fair
indigo arch
because by this point in s2 I used my giant 24111 iq brain to figure out how a fight works
next ruin
In gen tanks have to deal with x3 the idiota
Tanks usually are the inflated ones
indigo arch
the community let me down, I had to think for myself
fading sky
Rly dependsnon keylvl
next ruin
the community let me down, I had to think for myself
This is what minorities feel like 24/7 btw
fading sky
6-11 dpsers are often horrid my god
lavish pond
hello , im so happy that im a B spec again this season, bye
indigo arch
Isn't it great?
oblique trail
hello , goodbye
fading sky
Lol fury should be a
next ruin
12-13 are tank inflated, 14+ everyone is equal id say
fading sky
Yup
lavish pond
nope, arms i so boring and low
indigo arch
welsome to s2
indigo arch
boomer apm spec or inting in big pull keys
fading sky
Slow?
oblique trail
How is Arms slow
fading sky
U have no free globals
oblique trail
PoV you've never actually played Arms
next ruin
hello , im so happy that im a B spec again this season, bye
Prio target like fire mage in s2 df
oblique trail
Arms is by no means a slow spec compared to Fury
warm crag
So u compare fury's fast pace play to arms?
the apm difference is literally like 4
next ruin
Thane is slow
fading sky
So pretty equal
warm crag
if you can feel that difference you are lying lol
lavish pond
slayer feels so much faster
remote bobcat
slayer aint in m+
fading sky
Coz u play haste as well
indigo arch
maybe with all the "spec monitoring" blizz claims to do they can fix fury being dogshit by tuning around meat cleaver or something
next ruin
No frenzy stacks thane is the closest thing to cbt tbf
indigo arch
that or idk, make odyns and RA not suck ass again.
fading sky
maybe with all the "spec monitoring" blizz claims to do they can fix fury being ...
Again horrid take
Just buff of + roar
That is our aoe
And rest we prio tsrget
next ruin
maybe with all the "spec monitoring" blizz claims to do they can fix fury being ...
You have arms spec for mass aoe, why change fury
lavish pond
we have no utility for parties, at least give some damage bruh
indigo arch
Again horrid take
Yea buff roar which does nothing atm
next ruin
We have the best physical raid buff
indigo arch
You have arms spec for mass aoe, why change fury
Because it's a "why" spec if you want to contribute to more than funnel
won't even get into utility gap
next ruin
In a physical comp it does great cleave while being high on prio. And in those comps utility is great
Don't act like dk's bring more lol
warm crag
Fury had heaps of seasons where it blasted
fury had one season where it was close to being in top keys and then aug released in that same season so shrug
and iirc it was literally just cause fury survived smth that others didnt
indigo arch
bfa fury was super satisfying, so was legion
warm crag
idk m+ asks for very specific damage patterns that fury isnt designed around and its a bit silly to beg for fundamental changes to damage patterns for season after season instead of just rerolling
indigo arch
Shadowlands was pretty great too, and about half of df
fading sky
Fury deffo fucks
remote bobcat
fury is rly strong rn
its not meta-strong
but its strong
not weak by any means
fading sky
And if u want meta dont choose wsrrior
indigo arch
tww prepatch and early EARLY s1 it had the makings of entering meta
and it was beautiful
and then blizz made a raid with half the fights being add snipe and nerfed us for H week
fading sky
Our profile would be to good in raid
indigo arch
and then the other specs caught up
next ruin
idk m+ asks for very specific damage patterns that fury isnt designed around and...
In 5 out of 8 dungeons being high on prio damage isn't even a bad way of playing the game. And for the other dungeons or if your group has enough prio, you can switch to arms
Having both specs "good" (they're not mage I know) is actually very nice
indigo arch
gg no re
next ruin
just not in a way that is instantly visible on detaisl
Playing fury is like playing sub rogue or switching to frost mage. People never do it because less details 
fading sky
If anythin slayer arms could use a tiny dmg bump in raid
dense elbow
Sure, why not
warm crag
Playing fury is like playing sub rogue or switching to frost mage. People never ...
did you see sub rogue recently ??
oblique trail
Slayer Arms does fine on the bosses it's good on
next ruin
tww prepatch and early EARLY s1 it had the makings of entering meta
It would have been meta only because the damage was 10 times better than other classes
fading sky
Or fury a nerf
oblique trail
And it's not unplayably bad otherwise
fading sky
Prob
indigo arch
It would have been meta only because the damage was 10 times better than other c...
And that's the thing, warrior needs to literally obliterate specs or this occurs
next ruin
did you see sub rogue recently ??
Slept on currently 100% some people play melee comps where the rogue switches sub sometimes
indigo arch
They either need to give us good util, or simply let fury blast since it has no util
remote bobcat
idk i see this in nerubar palace and im very happy with the spot fury was in
warm crag
Slept on currently 100% some people play melee comps where the rogue switches su...
no as in damage pattern wise
they just press eviscerate theres no funnel anymore their funnel is just their aoe
next ruin
And that's the thing, warrior needs to literally obliterate specs or this occurs
No they just need to give scrolls back, or nerf magical comps so you can have more physical comps in lfg
Physical comp actually slaps and warrior fits perfectly
fading sky
They either need to give us good util, or simply let fury blast since it has no ...
We have battle shout
indigo arch
I mean a good example right now is unholy, the spec just absolutely bootyblasts other specs, esp in big add dungeons
fading sky
Now rally could use a bump in m+
indigo arch
feel that one's getting the bat soon
I wish rally was raw DR instead of health
that'd be a start
dense elbow
That would be far too strong for raid
next ruin
they just press eviscerate theres no funnel anymore their funnel is just their a...
Less funnel but they still slap prio while cleaving, I guess it's same for assa? Tbf I'm no rogue expert I'm trusting you on this
dense elbow
Game is about the raid, if it is fine in raid, it is fine
next ruin
I mean a good example right now is unholy, the spec just absolutely bootyblasts ...
Udk is only played because it is the biggest damage on details rn. It has no synergy, no prio damage at all, nothing. It's the most likely spec to be dropped of meta comp for something more synergistic
indigo arch
well, smallish
next ruin
Welcome to what makes a lot of specs meta in M+
Giving everyone else damage also is op
remote bobcat
make colossus shockwave knockup baseline for all warriors and give the node some other value
make rally give bonus hp% for 5 man groups or less
keep AP shout the same
make odyns fury viable in m+, but preferably less bursty somehow
this would help fury a lot imo
next ruin
Thus warrior in physical comp
oblique trail
Only if you being there to buff them makes up for the slot you take
indigo arch
also wish disrupting shout was in warrior tree to take for util
eternal sundial
They should nerf fury warrior
Did you see the logs on rashanan in this heroic week
remote bobcat
They should nerf fury warrior
yea uhdk is pretty op better nerf fury
remote bobcat
Did you see the logs on rashanan in this heroic week
oblique trail
Splat gapped my entire group by over 1.4 million in a weekly +10 Meadery I did this week
As a Demo lock
indigo arch
and titan's torment etc
oblique trail
I think Demo lock deserved the buff they got
gleaming siren
I think Demo lock deserved the buff they got
Demo was the one Warlock spec that didn't need buffs
cause the content it sucks at no buffs will make it good at
warm crag
Demo was the one Warlock spec that didn't need buffs
yet you were begging for the buffs
interesting? warock player outed
gleaming siren
Spongie is gaslighting me
again
They could buff Demo by 10% and I wouldn't have played it on Bandit
🤷♂️
next ruin
Only if you being there to buff them makes up for the slot you take
Physical comps are slept on. Feral > boomy. Let's start propaganda
gleaming siren
Banezi it's push week
oblique trail
Get pushed out of the game (positive)
next ruin
eternal sundial
Splat gapped my entire group by over 1.4 million in a weekly +10 Meadery I did t...
Maybe ur just bad and splat is not
🗣️
oblique trail
Correct
I also played prot warrior
So my contribution led to his damage being high
remote bobcat
time to game lads
next ruin
He looks good
remote bobcat
He looks good
you look good
next ruin
Are we kinda.. dating now.?
remote bobcat
Are we kinda.. dating now.?
ya
exotic remnant
anyone got the simc input for different races ?
hardy bluff
exotic remnant
ty
earnest canyon
time to game lads
lets go game (hunter)
indigo arch
There's a special ring of hell for tanks that go forgemaster in priory
versed seal
I did a couple 11s yesterday and it felt really bad getting absolutely dumpstered by both the feral and balance Druid in our group
low folio
super great trick to catch up on meters, befriend a healer and have them stop healing people that are dumpstering you in dps
earnest canyon
that just probably bricks the key though
low folio
i never said it would help with the key
next ruin
I did a couple 11s yesterday and it felt really bad getting absolutely dumpstere...
some keys are just too mass aoe oriented for fury to perform well. And on other dungeons, it is normal that you are lower than everyone else. But you need to compensate by demolishing prio targets and bosses
if you want overalls learn arms
versed seal
if you want overalls learn arms
That’s valid, too bad the stat priority is so different though
next ruin
tbf
it doestn matter much
youre only one crit ring away from good stat weight
do some keys you'll have it
versed seal
I’ll have to try it out
narrow jacinth
ive read both ways, "its normalized" or bigger in main hand, does it matter which weap is in your main hand? got a myth and a max crafted
fickle bluff
normalized means it doesnt matter which weapon type you use
it does matter having the higher ilvl weapon in main hand
narrow jacinth
ggs ty for that
tight idol
When BT sudden death and rampage are procced and which ability gets priority?
smoky vale
red geyser
does haste cap for fury exist ? thks
harsh barn
Could someone quickly explain to me how to do a sim with trinkets I don’t have?
smoky vale
does haste cap for fury exist ? thks
no
harsh barn
Thanks I’ll try that
smoky vale
i have 31% haste 43% mastery
it doesnt exist
earnest canyon
Thanks I’ll try that
it works fine, and you can select crafted stuff too
smoky vale
listen to the robot
red geyser
thks gio
earnest canyon
thks gio
edgy oasis
does haste cap for fury exist ? thks
No. But read about diminishing returns. Basically mate. I really wouldn't care about it. Just sim. Or stick to mastery where possible.
Logs are mainly using cooldowns efficiently...like at dmg phases or MT.
Spend the time caring about mechanics and how to do fights. Not will having different gem make me 0.0001% better
❤️
red geyser
thks @edgy oasis
edgy oasis
Thanks I’ll try that
Dropimiser and select the content on which the trinket(s) drop.
earnest canyon
man I keep trying to play UH DK, and all it is, is using CDs
where is the fun buttons to press
eager thorn
man I keep trying to play UH DK, and all it is, is using CDs
I mean its kinda the same as fury
Use cds > press 4 buttons on repeat > use cds
smoky vale
^
earnest canyon
yes, but UH is like 17 CDs and 1 button
smoky vale
no?
earnest canyon
feels very unfun even if number is big
eager thorn
Yea m+
smoky vale
unless apoc but thats 1 more
eager thorn
I play fury for raid unholy for m+
smoky vale
its just ua dnd dt vs
eager thorn
Started doing more than my main in a week of picking up dk :)
earnest canyon
it just feels like its very low cd heavy
smoky vale
that spec does 0 damage unless pulls are 20 mobs below 10s
harsh barn
Did I do this right? Is that saying if I swap out to mechano-core and pacemaker I only get about 70k dps more?
harsh barn
I'm cooked
I thought my damage might be way lower because of my trinkets, I guess not
smoky vale
might have to refer to wowhead guide
harsh barn
I feel like I do the rotation fine but ya maybe. I'm usually first every boss fight, get destroyed in the AoE though which is obviously expected, but so discouraging
I'm pugging 13's right now but so hard to even get a group and I feel like I have difficulty keeping up
earnest canyon
my bm normally destroys warriors on both aoe and ST on keys, but the highest I did was 12
pugs are random as fuck though...and not many warriors
harsh barn
I wanted to push high this season but idk if I'll be able to on my warrior lol. And I feel like I'd be way too far behind to make a new toon
earnest canyon
so idk what trinks etc they have
harsh barn
There's no catch up mechanic for vaults right?
oblique trail
No