fury

[summer crater]

Melee survival got to be good for one season 🤣

[bitter palm]

all i know

is i wont touch mm or bm

[clever path]

how do people keep enrage active through 99% of a fight

very very consistently

i cannot figure it out

[fickle cedar]

I mean unless you lose uptime there is no reason to not be enraged 100% of the time

[clever path]

my uptime is always stuck at around 85%

compared to people usually being around 98%

idk cuz im hitting rampage the very second it gets close to 100 rage

ive ran a quick sim cuz i thought maybe my haste is so low that its causing problems

but no even the sim also has really really high uptime

[sullen dove]

i think like 99% perfection uptime isnt as common. maybe, but like 90-95 should be pretty reasonable

do u also have the talent that makes bt extend its duration

that does help a bit

deft experience i think maybe its called

but idk so long as youre always filling your gcds should be able to pretty frequently get a ramp every 4-5 seconds even outside of reck, always possible you like have literally nothing to hit and have to slam but shouldnt leave you hanging for that long

can maybe compare casts of rampage other ppl have vs yours on the same fights

its also pretty boss dependant like rik or stix for example are plenty of times you are forced off boss for a long while

[restive peak]

Barring fights designed around forced dropping mechanics, your uptime and enrage uptime should be pretty close to 97-99%

[plush ravine]

What’s the play for M+ and raids? Fury or Arms?

[restive peak]

Both have strengths in both, both are very solid for most levels, fury kinda dies off without a comp around it around 16/17s where massive pulls are necessary and arms cleave just takes over

Otherwise, every boss has been killed by both basically, and most key levels have been timed with both

[plush ravine]

Cool. In just going for 3k and not in a CE guild. Stick with Fury.

[restive peak]

Absolutely good to stick fury, I didn't swap to arms til 15s basically

[clever path]

yes i do

how in the fuck is the Sim generating THIS MUCH rage

my Ravager and Recklessness doesnt do that

the thane build im running is the mythic+ build off wowhead

[fickle cedar]

Lighting strikes maybe

[clever path]

im running the talent that causes lightning strikes to generate rage

hmmm

so the sim doesnt use recklessness or ravager off cooldown

it waist sfor both to be ready

[south kayak]

What's the ilvl of mythic players at this point

average person

[clever path]

like 674 or smth

[south kayak]

damn that is insane

i'm 664 lol

[clever path]

its relaly damn high

[summer quail]

like people that full clear mythic or people just progging?

[south kayak]

progging I guess

4M at most

We just killed vexie

[summer quail]

i'm 667 and progging stix

[south kayak]

I'm 664 now at vexie

[summer quail]

not done raid this week yet tho, so maybe 668 later

[south kayak]

so i guess that tracks

[fickle cedar]

no way its 674, highest one is 673

[clever path]

i was one off

[fickle cedar]

oh i thought he meant the average

[clever path]

674 is highest possible ilvl isnt it

[south kayak]

how does someoen already have enough gilded to get that

[quiet breach]

is Scott war liquids tank?

[fickle cedar]

yep

[whole yacht]

663 also progging stix

[winter shoal]

I thought your guild was good

How are you the same level of prog as my guild

[warm thunder]

Does anyone have a link to a fury warrior rotation, i cant seem to get past 1.3m dmg at the minute

[whole yacht]

What fight. Amd what is your ilvl

[warm thunder]

One armed bandit and my ilvl is 661

[whole yacht]

If you're similar ilvl. I can dm you my logs. I'm not the greatest. But I do more dmg than that

Word

I can send you my log

Of my most recent kill

[warm thunder]

that would be helpful, im definitely doing something wrong

[winter shoal]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps

If you chuck your logs into wowanalyzer it'll catch some basic rotational stuff

Here are my logs from a couple weeks ago at 659 https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/zcJgfG2H7aNkZmBW?fight=61&type=damage-done&source=2

[quiet breach]

what's the name of the addon that shows ppls parses when u hover over them in group finder?

the new one that is controversial

[marble pilot]

#news message
this one?

[thorny cove]

is fury actually better than arms in ToP? feel like there's so small pulls and tried out arms didn't feel great

[quiet geyser]

ToP is like the only dungeon fury is pog at

5 bosses and mostly small pulls

[thorny cove]

feel like mechagon it could be better too

eh maybe not with all those bomb adds at the start

man just need 44 points for KSL

[onyx linden]

you dont play the game? or how are you so low on Bandit?

is it heroic prog?

[summer quail]

no lol, we're like rank 1000 something

i just like the vibes of the guild

[sullen dove]

[onyx linden]

thats how i was, before the 600 pull tindral and 550 pull fyrakk we did

[clever belfry]

vibes raiding

[warm thunder]

Yes its Heroic prog. That is why im asking for advice to get better, sorry we arent all mythic raiders do 5m dmg on every pull.

[thorny cove]

kinda curious, is it easier to push keys on EU? feel like I see way more high warrs on EU compared to NA

[whole yacht]

people on EU use their brains more in keys than people in NA

[thorny cove]

🤣

prob not wrong

[rare garnet]

Go ST, stop overthinking, smash buttons and get your APM up, fine tune later

[whole yacht]

im on NA, and the amount of people that just turn their brain off, and die. make me wanna kms

[thorny cove]

ya same

[whole yacht]

watched a hunter and a mage in a 12 cinderbrew stand in 7 things back to back

and die 4 times

eachh

[thorny cove]

just had 13 ToP and this 3k DK gripped the ghost adds into Kul'tharok and bricked the key

[onyx linden]

what talents u play on bandit?

[thorny cove]

just criminal I have to try 10x harder than that guy and he casually griefs me

[warm thunder]

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[onyx linden]

i would take a screenshot :DD not planning to import it

[whole yacht]

i already looked

his talents are fine

he runs the standard heroic bandit talents

[onyx linden]

cool, thats -1 on the list then

[whole yacht]

hell yeah

after looking

i think his problem is rotational

[onyx linden]

must be

1.3m is very low

need a log to check it

[whole yacht]

hes definitely not rampaging and BT casting enough

[onyx linden]

even if he does pure ST in 661, should be around 2m on that boss

[whole yacht]

i was 2.1m pure single target

same ilvl

cuz i forgot to change talents

[onyx linden]

like i said

[whole yacht]

i think hes just not pressing his buttons enough

i gave him some suggestions in dms

[onyx linden]

++

[remote storm]

Should I actually be holding Avatar until Recklessness is next avaliable? I've been popping each of them on CD

[winter shoal]

You do not

Do not hold ava I mean

[whole yacht]

no. press them on cd

[onyx linden]

i play fury only on my alt(665), and arms on main, is it only me or fury is just awful on m+ on big pulls?

[whole yacht]

unless your not hitting anything

then hold obviously

or if its like within 4 secondfs of each other

then wait to press same time

[whole yacht]

fury is horrendous on aoe big pulls

ive maxed out at 11m dps

[winter shoal]

Even then you'd just send

[whole yacht]

while everyone else was 20+

[winter shoal]

You get 8s anyways from zerkers torment

[onyx linden]

11m is even highrolling, lmao

[whole yacht]

it was

i got very good procs and crits

[whole yacht]

true

[onyx linden]

like on Cinder 1st pull, i do 7-8m on fury burst, while others at 20m

feels insanely bad

was so much better in S1

[winter shoal]

If you're playing fury in a key, it's not for the overall damage

[onyx linden]

its boss dam yea

[winter shoal]

If you're crying about your overall as fury, just play arms

[whole yacht]

i would

but i hate arms

[onyx linden]

i dont care about my overall, i play it only on my alt, to have some fun

[whole yacht]

most boring spec ive ever touched

[feral ivy]

imma be honest as fury MT i live and have less deaths than anyone in any m+ idk if its becasuse im not stupid or just tanky

[thorny cove]

I hate arms too and caved in

[whole yacht]

its cuz MT is tankier than a lot of other classes/specs

[thorny cove]

although nobody notices I have a haste/mastery weapon still 🤣

[winter shoal]

haste/mast is fine as arms

[thorny cove]

I'm also too cheap to change my weap enchant

have radiant power still

I feel like the biggest outliers are priory and cinder. I feel like there's no way I would time a 12 cinder as fury.

[silk wharf]

Radiant is good for aoe and much better for short lived adds. Its not like its inting

[thorny cove]

I just can't believe how incredibly boring arms is in keys. Feels like I could put cleave on every slot on my action bar and still out perform a fury warr.

[onyx linden]

thats how you meet with tank damage arms players on keys

[silk wharf]

I find the micro of arms to be a little tedious in keys.

Saving/sending cds. Offset cooldowns.

[thorny cove]

also I don't remember if SS always had a CD or I'm thinking of blade flurry on rogue, but feel like it should just be a togglable ability

[onyx linden]

SS always had a cd

[glad escarp]

My fury brothers. Just asking out of curiousity

Which dungeons in M+'s is it just better to play arms on

vs Fury

[thorny cove]

prob every dungeon is better as arms except ToP

[glad escarp]

Obvious answer is "all of them huehue" but I was just curious like where Fury is generally ok vs like arms just grossly outpreforms it.

[onyx linden]

All of them except Top

but you can do better in Top too

[glad escarp]

Damnit

[onyx linden]

depends on pulls

[glad escarp]

Im bout to do a floodgate with my homie and was wondering if I needed to play arms or if i can stick to fury

Its just a 10 so

I assume it'd be fine?

[thorny cove]

we need like archimtiros to make like a cordial forum post or something begging blizzard to change fury

or buff them at least

[glad escarp]

Or uncap us

Literally uncap us and we'd be fine in dungeons.

[thorny cove]

exactly

[onyx linden]

tbh uncap would be overkill, but 5 target cap on everything is a bad joke

[glad escarp]

Give us 8 target cap

atleast.

[onyx linden]

yea, i would take 8 targets

[glad escarp]

like giving us atleast 3 more mobs we can hit cant be too much to ask for.

[thorny cove]

I think it should at least be like cleave and be 5+ reduced

[willow cradle]

It actually is pretty significant.

[thorny cove]

but we're just arbitrarily hardcapped 5

[feral ivy]

anyone having trouble with the b.net app?

its stucks in the "logging in" phase

[glad escarp]

Half of my friends list just got logged out

[sour tundra]

run for your lives!! its another DDOS attack

[glad escarp]

• Bnet went down.

[sour tundra]

all servers dead

[glad escarp]

oh hey Clapster

[feral ivy]

yea hearthstone went down while playing WOW

[plush zephyr]

Only fangs must be raiding

[thorny cove]

wooh I haven't got DC'd yet maybe people inv me to a 13 with lack of choices

fr though this DDoSing is kinda getting out of hand I know blizz can't really do much, but surprised it's been so frequent lately

[red berry]

someone's not happy with blizzard ig

[thorny cove]

wasn't it just some loser DDOSing to get only fangs dead during their raids? why is it so random now

[marble schooner]

man I actually wanna push keys this season but its rough pushing as a non top 6 class atm, I kinda wanna gear a fire mage but feel like ill suck so bad

[silk wharf]

It never had anything to do with anyone.

[marble schooner]

😢

[red berry]

yeah no pushing to 14s has been a trial

i have signed up for so many keys

[winter shoal]

login on unholy

[sour frigate]

Roll arms

[winter shoal]

or wait til .5 to reroll

[thorny cove]

I just wanna get 3k and not do another key for 4 months 🙃

[marble schooner]

ive never played a dk in my life and kinda feel they are very boring to play

[sour tundra]

yeah roll DK

[marble schooner]

from the outside

maybe they are hella fun idk

[onyx linden]

we still need weekly for a few more weeks

but i feel you

[plush zephyr]

Discords like Drunk n Disorderly and Casual Friday have in-discord finders and mythic events

[tepid cedar]

about to redo the 15 cinder again soon! wish me lucckkk

[thorny cove]

I'm pretty close

[next ruin]

Shamans, mages, boomy, dev, most healers, most tanks
Those are safe picks

[plush zephyr]

Could find some friends

[thorny cove]

I just need like 3 or 4 more 13s. I'm at 2956

[tepid cedar]

just keep at it. it wil pay off in the end

[marble schooner]

yeah Ive played mage a few times and obv doing damage is not that big of a deal but like surviving things in high keys requires actually knowing and managing a lot of defensives its kinda overwhelming cause my two main classes are Warrior and DH and both are like 1 defensive andys

[plush zephyr]

Or just run your own keys and put comps you want together and then pump

[tepid cedar]

and if we miracualuosuly get a buff it will only make u that much more valuable cause ull know the keys in and out

[plush zephyr]

Warrior defensive stance and timing it well is very slept on

[thorny cove]

[sour frigate]

U got it 💪

[marble schooner]

yeah depending on the day im like full on National warrior pride or just doomer gotta swap classes if I wanna play

[sour frigate]

I run 15th top and we failed a skip

[tepid cedar]

hahaha we all get it

[marble schooner]

yeah but ive played warrior for so long now that its not hard I guess

[tepid cedar]

aaww dammmnn

[next ruin]

Only way for warrior to be meta is us doing way more, like way more, damage than every other class

[plush zephyr]

Idk I feel like I never die and have plenty of defensives as warr

[tepid cedar]

i think the most tight ur asshoe gets is the pulls leading up to gorechop and into gorechop

no place to move. jumping fuckers

[plush zephyr]

Could use some more movement though because raid is quite rough for us movement wise

[thorny cove]

they should make it so when you rally (only as fury) your whole dungeon group gets a 100% damage increase /s

[plush zephyr]

Still wouldn’t get invited

😂

[marble schooner]

yeah you gotta like premove everything or panic

like I got to 3k io so fast I felt like I could push to at least 3.2-3.3k this season but I met a wall instantly

shits crazy

[tepid cedar]

sucks whenw e do 1/4 the damage some classes are doing in pulls lol

[thorny cove]

I can see it now. The day they buff fury and make it fotm there will suddenly be a huge decrease in rets/dks and a huge influx of fury warrs out of the woodworks 🤣 🤣

[marble schooner]

atp you gotta be a MDPS player

[tepid cedar]

makes ewveyrthing that much harder since 90% of bosses are literaly spank and do a mech or 2

[marble schooner]

if u wanna push keys through pugs

[tepid cedar]

mister lock trinket has been game changer for me

havent taken that of fin keys anymore

[winter shoal]

Nah unholy is kinda boring

I haven't played sanlayn tbf

But I played a good bit of rider unholy last season and it was kinda whatever

[marble schooner]

yah like if FDK was the play maybe id consider it

like last season i was very close to actually rolling fdk

[thorny cove]

I feel like it's almost harder to get into a key as ret pally. Whenever I get invited before a group is full I see like 30 in queue. How do they standout from all their ret cousins?

[hollow mirage]

Happy DDOS day xD

[marble schooner]

Ret suffers from actually being the most played spec in the whole game

so being meta-ish means everyone and their mothers will try to push io

[thorny cove]

I would play fotm, but I just can't stand tanking/healing. Should I play ranged dps fotm next season?

[earnest canyon]

What's the meta again for high keys? Vdh, fire mage.... And?

[acoustic pulsar]

boomie, unholy, and priest

[thorny cove]

bm hunt pretty good too right? or is it worse than mage/boomy

[sour frigate]

Bm looks great

[acoustic pulsar]

i think marksman is the hunter spec now, but i see both in highish keys

[thorny cove]

isn't MM targ capped or am I tripping

[reef totem]

Can someone explain me why does warrior player recommend to lower your spellqueue window ?
If I'm understanding it correctly I see 0 downsides having a higher spellqeue window:
If you have 400 -> you can cast a spell at 300 before gcd and if you change your mind you can use a different one at 100 before gcd and the last one will register.
If you have 150 -> pressing a button at 300 before gcd will do nothing and then pressing one at 100 before gcd will queue it.

I see no downsides on situation 1, can someone enlighten me ?

[sour frigate]

Yes

[thorny cove]

at least aug isn't meta

that meta was so fried LOL

[acoustic pulsar]

yeah i like not requiring an aug in every freakin key

[thorny cove]

I was just thinking good thing I didn't get invited to a key or I would've got dc'd midway

[whole yacht]

I need one so bad. But I can't seem to get one

[plush zephyr]

Does this actually matter

I’ve never paid any mind to it, and heard people speak about it

[winter shoal]

High spell queue window feels omega shit in high haste environments

[plush zephyr]

But I’ve never had a raid lead or m+ pumper ask me about my spell queue window settings

[winter shoal]

It's something you need to experiment with yourself though

[plush zephyr]

Ig I’ll fuck with it tonight

[winter shoal]

Spend some time on a dummy with various values between 400 and like 150

[plush zephyr]

I play fire mage too so maybe I should

[winter shoal]

See what feels best without causing you to miss gcds

[plush zephyr]

At the same time

[winter shoal]

Forgy is a big 400 SQW for fire advocate

[reef totem]

don't understand the "feeling" thing

still don't see the downside even in high haste

since you can change your spell queued

[winter shoal]

idk how to put it but it just feels like your inputs end up being wrong

Like yeah you can change the queued spell

But it just feels like it's wrong sometimes

And as long as you aren't having gaps between your gcds then there's no harm in a lower SQW

I think I play on 180 and it's still a little fucky sometimes during lust

skill issue though

[silk wharf]

For casters or "set" rotation specs spell queue window is amazing. Imo, for gcd locked specs with more of a flowchart rather than a rotation it feels like a hinderance at 400.

Even more so for specs that reset ability cooldowns constantly like fury.

[clever path]

i#'m looking at what Critcake does

Wowhead just doesnt help

[near wing]

How do you check your sqw?

[silk wharf]

There is a command for it or some options addons let you easily adjust it. I use advancedinterfaceoptions (all one word I know it looks weird)

[clever belfry]

/dump GetCVar("SpellQueueWindow")

should work

[clever path]

yeah Wowhead is trolling me

Critcake has taught me more about fury in 2 minutes than that entire fucking guide

😭

[tepid cedar]

guide is good

[clever path]

my damage is fine but it's not insane

[tepid cedar]

best thing to do is look at simc example of the sim. and also look at the appl

[clever path]

im aiming for insane

[graceful dock]

Example? :o

[clever path]

my simc samples are all astronomically low for my ilvl

[tepid cedar]

go play shammy , ret, unholy, boomie, assasination

not ur sim

[clever path]

the way he treats his passives in relation to pressing Rampage

he min maxxes his stacks for everything

[green oxide]

anyone got an undermine current guide to enchants or is everything the same since before the update?

also hi everyone 😄

[clever path]

im seeing him overcap fairly refularly against Sprocket and he's pulling 2.6m dps

[tepid cedar]

bruh we keep hacing someon DC mid key eveyr time fuck this ddos

[clever path]

obvs theres a huge gear difference but i peaked like 1.6m

[graceful dock]

Minmaxing ur rotation isnt the purpose of the wowhead guide tho is it?

[clever path]

i have and i need to go higher

[tepid cedar]

im fucking balstinnn this cinder, this is right at 2nd boss

[fair thistle]

1.6 in mythic ?

[clever path]

nah this was heroic undermine

[graceful dock]

Things like ragin blow at max rage after bladestorm? I think thats only time u wanna overcap rage

[clever path]

i dont take slayer in m+

[fair thistle]

mythic undermine i meant

[graceful dock]

And keeping ashen juggernaut stacks i suppose

[fair thistle]

look how much u sim tho

[clever path]

yeah its just squeezing as much damage out of each ability

[fair thistle]

yes i agree

[clever path]

which is what the wowhead guide didnt really teach me

[fair thistle]

i did overcap on sprocket MM

but was not good

like

[clever path]

only buff i was encouraged to focus on was BT crit chance

[fair thistle]

my rampages were hard

but didn't press it enough

just look ur logs

and compare them to first furys of the warcraftlogs ranking without PI

and check the amount of damage perr cast and the number of casts

you'll see where the issue is

[clever path]

my main issue was prioritising spending rage above all else

and that did help improve my numbers but it plateaud

idk priority class thi shit is never once simple

[graceful dock]

I mean that is true tbf, theres only like two exceptions to that

[green oxide]

are the wowhead guides up to date? they were last updated right before undermine

[silk wharf]

They are fully up to date afaik. Archi and everyone else that contrubutes put in tons of effort.

[fair thistle]

whats the second behind after bladestorm ?

[green oxide]

just making sure thanks for the reply

😄

[silk wharf]

3 stacks of marked I think.

[fair thistle]

ah yeah

[graceful dock]

Keeping ashen juggernaut was what i was thinking ab

Maybe 3 stacks of marked but i reckon we throw in a rampage first unless theyre about to expire then, no?

[fair thistle]

if ashen juggernaut doesn't fade yes

if it does just overcap

[oblique trail]

These questions are also just answered in the guide

[fair thistle]

i think*

[oblique trail]

You'd Execute above all else if you have 3x MfE, Ashen about to fall off or you have 2x SD stacks/SD is about to expire

The only priority higher than that, is Rampaging if you're unenraged

[amber shuttle]

for m+ is there a breakpoint where mountain thane is better than slayer (or vice versa)?? Or is mountain thane better than slayer at any key level?

[thorny cove]

jfc timed a 13 mechagon with 12 seconds left

[clever path]

i think mountain thane is much better in higher keys because it has a much more consistent aoe

also thane is a tad more sturdier but i aint sure if that aspect is taken into account

[tepid cedar]

cinder 15 timed baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[winter shoal]

Large

[sour frigate]

#warriormeta

[tepid cedar]

straight fucking THUMPEEEDD

[sour frigate]

[thorny cove]

I'm gonna go crazy just need 29 score for 3k

[tepid cedar]

u got it bro!

[sour frigate]

US or EU?

[thorny cove]

NA

[sour frigate]

😦

[thorny cove]

LOL just had a group brick on first pack in motherlode

[wooden scarab]

I have a question with vicious contempt should I pop all raging blow prove before bloodthirsty or just to 75 percent crit?

Procs*

[sour frigate]

Just send bt

[feral ivy]

im seeing a key "+12 resil" what does that mean

[wooden scarab]

Alr thank you

[sour frigate]

Means key wont drop below 12 if bricked

[feral ivy]

grats

[sour frigate]

resilient thingy

[feral ivy]

ah whats the point of having it in the title?

[sour frigate]

i dunno might be whether u have a wish to retry in case of fail

[feral ivy]

ah

[thorny cove]

hot take: every key should be resil

I hate negative progression

[feral ivy]

above 10 yea

[thorny cove]

it's why I'll never play PoE

fuck losing XP for dying

[feral ivy]

this is deaths ina easy 12 -.- my death was from a fucken blade pushing me into tank soak (1st boss in workshop)

also figured out they patched that you cant leap over the avoid area 😦

[bronze chasm]

@dapper goblet speak dude

[dapper goblet]

lmao

such a quirky charge button..

[bronze chasm]

:icant:

[sullen dove]

not playing the charge class though...

[thorny cove]

I can't even imagine how hard it must be to push for R1 mythic+ title without a team. So crazy to even get 13s done.

[sullen dove]

r1 or just m+ title

[thorny cove]

m+ title

[sullen dove]

def not easy for solo pugging title anyway but r1 is not happening

[thorny cove]

the 0.1% I mean

[sullen dove]

yea i mean its like semi possible, pretty unlikely for warr tho unless its a season like this where they're pretty good

[thorny cove]

even if mr beast paid me 100k to try to get it I don't think I could do it

I would lose my sanity

[wooden scarab]

Is it possible to sustain 2m on mugzee with them moving so much I'm struggling to sustain on a few bosses in heroic

[spare steppe]

why are they moving?

[wooden scarab]

Like moving to each add and things

[sullen dove]

uh i mean if logs go that high then ya should be possible, there is some movement on mugzee tho most of the time it does just kinda stand still n sit there

fury should b able to pretty reliably keep up with the boss tho

[wooden scarab]

Without cooldowns should I pop rampage when its up or push raging blow until I can't then rampage then bloodthirst

[sullen dove]

rampage on cd always

[winter shoal]

Generally rampage

[sullen dove]

except maybe out of bladestorm you spam rb till you cant no more

more enrage

[winter shoal]

Idk RB at 80 rage probably a bigger dps diff than SS BF stacking

SS BF is actually so irrelevant

[sullen dove]

ya it felt dumb it even existed

[winter shoal]

But just blindly ramping is probably a good rule of thumb

[wooden scarab]

Ok cool someone earlier said to pop bloodthirst on CD when in vicious contempt is active is that true

[winter shoal]

BT when the weakaura says to https://wago.io/hKMfHReC2

RB otherwise

[wooden scarab]

My parses on one armed and sprocket are blue and I'm trying to change that plus I'm trying to parse well on mugzee

I'll grab that weak aura real quick thank you

[winter shoal]

You basically RB until the weakaura glows and kachings

Then you BT

But you prio rampage over both of those regardless

[wooden scarab]

Ok cool I was just making sure I was doing it right

[sour frigate]

its not bt issue then

u can get 95+ by just smashing buttons

[wooden scarab]

When I switch to adds on one armed my parse gets killed and then from there it's hard to recover

And then with sprocket it's probably cause I didn't move with the boss fast enough

[winter shoal]

Just cleave off boss on hc

[wooden scarab]

My group doesn't bring boss to the adds so I just lose so much DPS

[winter shoal]

Why do they not

[wooden scarab]

I don't know I asked and they said they were getting killed

[winter shoal]

I mean it costs nothing to move the boss

and the adds die quickly in hc anyways

No reason not to just move the boss and cleave off it

[wooden scarab]

Yeah I know I'll try and get them to do it next week on our raid night

[sour frigate]

U can go pug for logs

[feral ivy]

this OO made me hate my self lol... i had HORRID positioning i couldnt hit the adds during big pulls

[sullen dove]

what is oo

[feral ivy]

the feeling like oooo god damn

[sullen dove]

[feral ivy]

but a quickie

[thorny cove]

16 points off

[feral ivy]

from 3k?

[thorny cove]

ya

I'm prob gonna get gimped and get to 2998 or 2999 on my next 13

[feral ivy]

go to mythicplanner

https://mythicplanner.com/

[thorny cove]

I mean I just join whatever 13 I get invited to man it's not like I have the luxury of choice

I got spammed declined for 3 hours to get into one just now

[feral ivy]

damn lol idk how yall have so much trouble

[thorny cove]

what region are you

[feral ivy]

NA

US

[near wing]

So I just had a massive revelation. I thought the kaching weak aura was telling me when to execute…. I think it’s telling me to bloodthirst. I legit have been hitting execute for 4 weeks now lolol. Odd thing is, I don’t get kaching in M+, is that intentional? Is it only slayer, no kaching in MT?

[hollow path]

Might be because of the sudden death talents? does it make a sound when to press execute? then it makes a sound when sudden death is up and you should use execute

but if im wrong correct me if im wrong fyi

[near wing]

I have no clue. I was just looking at the WA that was posted above, and noticed it kachings when you’re supposed to BT. And I’m guessing I’ve just been wrong in executing. Unless I have another WA that is kaching’ing me when sudden death procs. I use atrocity suite

I feel so smooth brained right now

[tepid cedar]

priory done. lets fucking gooo

[sour frigate]

balls.

[whole yacht]

Nice

[remote zephyr]

Is Slayer good on mythic stix? I prefer playing it over thane

doing the ST build with the whirlwind talents, taking out reck duration and a deft experience

[edgy widget]

As long as you have enough add damage, it'll be fine

Slayer isn't as good as Thane though because the adds tend to be really spread out and trickle in, rather than one big clump you can bladestorm

[sullen dove]

any knowers if stix balls like cycle thru everybody before picking someone twice

cuz the only rule i remember existing in my head is if you get a ball you cant get a ball on the next set

but boomkin saying his disc sayin to taunt boss first set so he doesnt get picked for the next like 4 sets

i cant recall exactly if i or anyone else has gotten a ball twice in 1 pull

[velvet obsidian]

If you taunt boss at the right time you won't get balls for the rest of the fight

Cuz dead people don't get mechanics

🙂

[sullen dove]

holy 5head

[velvet obsidian]

The forbidden tech

[ember salmon]

is there a reason im only getting 79 rage on pull for sprocketmonger?

[edgy widget]

pressing too early

but if it happens, just throw a bloodthirst

[ember salmon]

i thought that too but im waiting to be fully in combat at this point and still only getting 79 😦 weird stuff idk

[edgy widget]

its out of combat rage degen, starts ticking immediately

[quiet breach]

can someone explain how flask of alchemical chaos interacts with tempered potion?

[sullen dove]

you get all 4 stats from tempered pot

cuz alchem isnt a tempered flask

[quiet breach]

oh so if u have regular flask u only get 3

nice

[fair swallow]

Not really trolling

Only difference when it comes to execute is we only execute when we get 3 stacks of the buff, or juggernaut is about to run out

Also bloodthirst hits harder

While arms spams and ramps up their execute

Overall though they're kinda neck and neck in terms of damage

[uneven dragon]

How much worse is fury then arms atm in both m+ and raid

[winter shoal]

Madox played it

Thane is good if your raid needs that damage profile

[sullen dove]

isnt thane just worse arms on that fight

jus slayer for st if gonna bother with fury surely

[quiet breach]

nerfs?

warrior nerfs?

[mellow crow]

no oab nerfs

[quiet breach]

oh

ye it too hard

based on what i seen streamers saying

[bitter palm]

hardest 6th boss ever

stix hardest 4th boss ever

statistically

[sullen dove]

me when preach is

[bitter palm]

i chose not to raid this tier

and looking at oab

im glad

[sullen dove]

big stick enjoyer

[bitter palm]

i do NOT want to prog oab as warrior

[sullen dove]

nice like 30%ish

[bitter palm]

can they just explode oab already

and give people their ce

[bitter palm]

when is hof closing

[sullen dove]

pff idk lol

doesnt affect me in any way

[bitter palm]

wait

[slim coral]

you cannot get picked back to back

thats the only rule

[bitter palm]

only like 40 guilds killed gally so far?

damn

[modest condor]

no

[rich beacon]

is Mister Lock-N-Stalk a good trinket?

[bitter palm]

yes

[bitter palm]

so i got lied to

[modest condor]

it's easy to misinterpret data in a way to make things look a certain way

one armed has nothing on week 1 kyveza

it's not even close how much harder that boss was

[bitter palm]

how many guilds were on her tho

[calm mantle]

Trying to get accept into a 12 Cinderbrew as fury seems impossible.

[sullen dove]

ok who cares bout week 1

its week everyone else

[bitter palm]

ye like week 1 was what

liquid echo method

[sullen dove]

week 1 kyveza actually unkillable

they nerfed by 8%

then psure like giga nerfed again either 2nd or 3rd again

think bandit also way more of a comp diff

didnt matter too much what u brought on kyveza

but needing specific ranged to kill adds in time

[rich beacon]

why is my 668 lock-n-stalk simming higher than 678? lol

[sullen dove]

kwazy

[bitter palm]

powerful trinket

[sullen dove]

cocknstalk is big

[bitter palm]

adjust for mass destruction

adjust for mass cbt

[rich beacon]

i mean, it is simming higher than itself at 678

[rich beacon]

even for st?

[bitter palm]

no

[rich beacon]

ok

[sullen dove]

wtf is this

put on corgi goggles and then reflecting prism'd someone

it put my armor hovering on him and he's still a corgi

[rocky locust]

Does the "no blocking, parrying, or dodging attacks from behind" thing apply to bosses? Or just to players? Should I be standing behind bosses?

[modest condor]

yes

[queen linden]

Random question: Was it possible to dps Queen fast enough in p1 to skip the predation phase?

I swear I remember having a handful of pulls where we did it, but I can't find logs that show it.

[sullen dove]

no

you can just get there before the timer at 33%

but she always did web intermission

and skip like the third set of pops maybe

[wintry snow]

anyone got any recommendations for the underpin fight on ??

[sullen dove]

prot i think

somethin bout makes kicking balls 2shot adds instead of like 4

[calm mantle]

Small achievement I’m happy about since I only hit 2700 last season.

[thorny cove]

I'm so depressed just sit in LFG for like 4 hours when I just need 16 points

just can't get into a single 13

[sour frigate]

spec prot

[thorny cove]

I tried that too

[rocky hornet]

I had to 2 chest a 13 to get invited into my first 12 lmao

the community just hates warriors

90% of the keys above 11 I have done have been my own

[thorny cove]

I just cba doing my own key cuz what if I RNG a dungeon I already have? then I just have to keep rolling it over and over again just to get the 1 I need for points

[rocky hornet]

yep

it sucks

if you play at weird hours, like early morning or late night you get more invites from my experience

because there are few signups

[thorny cove]

not to mention I'm maybe 1-2 dungeons away from 3k

super aids to keep doing my 12 over and over again even if it's resil

[calm mantle]

I feel this, for my last 12 which wa scinderbrew a arms warrior took pity and invited me.

[rocky hornet]

warrior isn't even bad now

not meta, but pretty strong

and very durable

I am usually last to die in a wipe excluding maybe the tank

[sour frigate]

doesnt shot for me

i get more invites in prime time

[rocky hornet]

yeah, maybe it doesn't work for everyone

helped me a bit, but might just have been luck

[thorny cove]

might also be different on EU

I feel like my luck is also better in the morning on NA

[earnest canyon]

I wish we had some sort of immunity for true oh shit moments

[rocky hornet]

ye, if u get oneshot you're just gone

we're no dk or paladin

but the overall survivability is rly good now imo

[bitter palm]

thane fury on stix is so funny

just casually

2 mil more hp

than everyone

cinema spec

[edgy widget]

Thane has better add dam, Arms will have better boss

though if adds do get nerfed hard, you could just play Slayer Fury and it'd probably be fairly comparable to if not better than Arms overall

[junior gale]

you think fury still has better add dmg compared to colossus arms?

[edgy widget]

Yeah, adds are too spread out for Arms multitarget

you can get a good demolish on the dynamite booty, but the current strat timings also line up very well for Fury - Thane can drop 3x Thunder Blasts into them on the rip, plus however long they live after (I guess if you have really heavy AoE classes slamming them, Thane loses some value though)

[junior gale]

Im unsure what I wanna play for OAB

we should kill sprocket sunday

[heavy nacelle]

what was your overall dps compared to him?

[edgy widget]

honestly I wouldn't worry too much about it right now; we're expecting nerfs next week but without knowing how they'll pan out yet, it's kinda up in the air

[tepid lily]

what do I do

stuck at 11s

[heavy nacelle]

open a podcast and keep spamming groups

[tepid lily]

100% they have to remove the 15 sec for deaths

it's so anti pugs group

[heavy nacelle]

they have to change the lfg system so you dont have to actively click groups all the time and can do other shit while you wait for invites 🙂

it's not the time it takes, it's that you can't do anything else in the meantime -,-

[tepid lily]

hmm maybe if they remove the 15 sec some people would stop to tend to invite meta comp

[heavy nacelle]

well, that would just move the barrier higher

[tepid lily]

I've been searching a +12 for 2 hours just to deplete it at 20 sec to 5 min

some classes have a garanteed purpose but us nah

zug zug

[heavy nacelle]

I actually like that, because then whenever I see some really high rated warrior I think "holy shit, this guy must be a beast" 😄

[tepid lily]

that won't happen if you don't have a team to push high keys smh

[heavy nacelle]

if I saw a high rated Aug previous seasons I just thought "eh he was just getting ez invites and got carried"

[tepid lily]

they pick you for fun or to carry them

a last choice

thinking going hpal instead

[heavy nacelle]

haha for fun, "lol lets get the zug zuger" 😄

[uneven dragon]

How behind is fury compared to arms in m+ as of the current balance in general i know some dungs arms does far better due to uncapped

[heavy nacelle]

https://mythicstats.com/dps

[thorny cove]

well guys my worst fear happened.. timed a 13 and now I'm at 2998 🤣

[heavy nacelle]

back into queue

[junior gale]

yeah my thoughts was another round of nerfs plus gear and raid buffs just run slayer arms

[edgy widget]

Assuming the nerfs are meaningful enough that most groups won’t need to penny-pinch every ounce of add damage, Slayer will probably become the go-to

Arms would still have an advantage in sweeping strikes, Fury would have better booty burst; Colossus may still be a decent middle ground

[rancid heron]

actually impossible to get into +12s as a warrior without doing your own key

really hoping they buff fury

or just dps warrior in general

[open wigeon]

Not impossible, but hard indeed

You should get a chance if you are 665+ and 2800+ or something

[hushed ocean]

just uncap us ! or cap everybody

[rancid heron]

TRUE

[rancid heron]

664 and im 2796 io

like idk it shouldnt be this hard to get into a 12

[open wigeon]

At this point, you should get friends

[rancid heron]

yeah...

[hushed ocean]

why on earth will you take a war when you can have boomy/uh/random mage

[rancid heron]

[open wigeon]

When I pug my 12, a lot of 3k io applies, so that's not just a matter of meta

It's just you are behind, unfortunately

[river reef]

@tame shard noober

[calm mantle]

I did 2.87 vs his like 3.5, he was arms tho and Idied twice so I may have hit 3m

[calm mantle]

Or just straight buff our cleave damage from 55% to like 75% or something.

[red berry]

5% more along with TB buffs would help

tbh 8 target cap thunder blast with a 10% damage boost is probably

alone generous if they went that route

[tight roost]

Is that just based on the usual tuning cycle or something more specific?

Looking at m+ participation it would make sense to boost some classes to make them better options

[summer quail]

Archi means nerfs to one armed bandit specifically

[tight roost]

Oh right, i misunderstood

Hard to keep track of all the different threads running in parallel in here 😆

[fair thistle]

false, i did time 13 keys being only fury

its long, boring, hard, but possible

main difference between both specs is on big pulls

arms does much more than 10M while u stick to 9 as fury

[lavish pond]

guys do u know the average damage fury warrior does in m+? 10 or above key

[next ruin]

Low

[lavish pond]

i want to compare it to my dmg meter

[unreal onyx]

Impossible

What dungeon, what route, what comp

[fair thistle]

depends on the key

[unreal onyx]

What gear

[fair thistle]

what dg i meant y

[dense fulcrum]

its really possible that for me sims higher this two trinkets for dg's? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5v2txEC8nQ68k3bgBYsiPG

[fair thistle]

just check noxiv and aim for decently less

[lavish pond]

i know noxiv bro but he is a pro

[unreal onyx]

Dslice sim oof

[lavish pond]

i mean, there is has to be somewhere average dmg for every spec in m+

[fair thistle]

thats why i tell you aim for decently less

[unreal onyx]

No

[dense fulcrum]

and what u use to sim for m+ patchwerk 5?

[fair thistle]

currently im able to time 14 and 13s by having 3.2/3.3

just bc i blast bosses

and use my cds when big pull classes can’t

[unreal onyx]

You could get an average value from all keys, but the variance is insane

[unreal onyx]

I either just sim 1T 5min or 5T 5min

[fair thistle]

it goes down to 2.8 in ToP for example

[dense fulcrum]

ye but i wanted to sim for aoe u know, 5T is better?

for precision

[unreal onyx]

If the aoe is constant, yes

But fury aoe is basically ST rotation with tc every 5th gcd

1T 5min is also accurate except for trinkets

[lavish pond]

ok so i guess something between 2.8 - 3.2

[next ruin]

Noxiv has perma 8% damage buff

[fair thistle]

8?

[lavish pond]

how is that

[lost saffron]

@clever belfry PEE

[next ruin]

Giving pieces of advice while not knowing raid buffs exist is wild

[lost saffron]

Most people who give advice here have no idea what they are talking about

😇

[fair thistle]

« aiming for decently less »

[fair thistle]

and most people can’t read properly aswell

😇

[lost saffron]

Thats me included

[dense fulcrum]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/oxcgYPsBH5Z8m7DK5Q5k1d well i changed to 5T

[fair thistle]

doesn’t change a thing to what i say

[dense fulcrum]

still that two trinkets from delve seems to sim higher lol

[lost saffron]

Also I did not include you or anything, I just read the last sentence and nothing else

I dont know what you said

In case you are offended xD

[fair thistle]

thought monk was 3 so had in mind 6

[clever belfry]

ruhe.

[lost saffron]

Dynamax Pikachu is calling

[fair thistle]

no im good

[lost saffron]

Good

[tight roost]

does it make sense to upgrade to 675 cloak if i have 6/6 heroic floodgate one and cannot put embellishment (already on bracer/wep)?

[granite crown]

Sim it, if you have embellishments just look at what your biggest upgrade it. I doubt it's cloak but you never know

[clever belfry]

crafting something on a tier slot can still be good depending on what u have yes.

[tight roost]

ive got nerubian on bracer/weapon and doubt ill get a mythic track weapon any time soon

[next ruin]

I thought this and got 2 myth track wep back to back in vaults

[tight roost]

hmm well, sims about 9k higher than fully upgraded cloak

st

[granite crown]

The comparison should be between crafting a cloak and crafting in other slots

Why do you want to craft a cloak specifically?

[tight roost]

well up until last night i was still running with a veteran one cuz nothing had dropped

so there it seemed like an obvious one, but got the floodgate cloak last night

[granite crown]

Then craft something else now that you got the drop?

[tight roost]

yeah this seems like the answer

[slim pollen]

Would be wasted crests as well to craft cloak if you just upgraded one yesterday

[clever belfry]

cloak/bracer are also the lowest stat budget pieces

and usually a quite marginal craft :3

yes this makes them better in a "bis" scenario
no a "bis" scenario is not relevant for almost anyone in week4 👍

[tight roost]

good points thanks

and no, im not going to end up in bis, not a mythic raider

[unreal onyx]

REAL

[clever belfry]

this is why im putting it in quotations, its not really about bis
Even as someone who, lets say, only fills their vault with 3x mythic ilvl choices from m+, you will likely end up having all mythic ilvl on the tier pieces at some point in the season. And then the bracer/cloak are likely going to be a bit better. However at that point u can just craft them anyway cause itll be in a while.

[unreal onyx]

Just get lucky in vault and aquire a gazillion dinars

[gleaming siren]

You also don't lose crests from crafting if you don't mythic raid ever

[clever belfry]

yeah youd only lose if you get items above 1/6 mythic track

which you dont, outside mythic raid.

(unless they change some shit with .5 or .7, maybe dinars, only god knows)

(you may wanna look into doing like first 2 mythic tho, being able to get all mythic tier in that slot is quite nice honestly)

and theyre easy!

[unreal onyx]

First 2M are easy ye

Cauldron is just long fight

[gleaming siren]

Anda realistically

[unreal onyx]

But basically heroic with 1 extra mechanic

Which is easy

[clever belfry]

just get carried by 2 people doing that

[gleaming siren]

How hard would pugging 5/8 be if you only had people that actually progged the bosses

[unreal onyx]

Exactly

[clever belfry]

uhh i dont think very

[unreal onyx]

5/8M

[clever belfry]

u may have to do a few healing assigns for sprocket

[unreal onyx]

Pugging 5M sounds hard asf rn

[gleaming siren]

Ye

[clever belfry]

and u need to get everyone on the same WA pack stix/sprocket

[clever belfry]

perspective little one

[unreal onyx]

I mean, yea

[clever belfry]

those bosses are very 1 dimensional if youve done them honestly

very scripted

[gleaming siren]

Obviously caveat being you need to get people from guilds that already killed those bosses

[clever belfry]

and on characters they dont fucking suck on

you know how it goes :3

[unreal onyx]

But I assume most ppl that pug to not be on the highest skill spectrum, otherwise they would be raiding in a group already

[clever belfry]

this is not about pugging on your main

this is about alts clearly

[unreal onyx]

O

Yea then ofc different story

Mb

[clever belfry]

on the other hand, first 5 drop dogshit loot

why bother

[gleaming siren]

True

And Bandit 'pugs' won't happen

That boss is

Awful

[clever belfry]

the loot distribution this tier is so fucking atrocious

[unreal onyx]

1st catalyst helm, 2nd token, 3rd token + catalyst gloves

[gleaming siren]

Faking hate Bandit

[gleaming siren]

The bad tokens

[clever belfry]

chest token is on sprocket

[unreal onyx]

Trinkets from the first 5 are all shit tho

[clever belfry]

head token is bandit (?)

legs is stix

[robust widget]

Wonder if this is on purpose after you were able to pug first 4 in S1

[unreal onyx]

Although rick trinket doesnt sim too bad for me

[clever belfry]

with how backloaded even catalyst items are (3 of our possible 5 catalyst items are on the last 2 bosses)

maybe

bad design imo.

(as someone who kills these bosses decently early)

[gleaming siren]

It's only this bad for Plate I think

[clever belfry]

leather is same

[gleaming siren]

Hmm

Cloth wasn't that bad I think

[clever belfry]

ofc mage propaganda

[unreal onyx]

First couple bosses for plate/warr specifically are all pretty bad

[gleaming siren]

Dranda

[clever belfry]

drandadn

nagura trying to figure out who that is

[clever belfry]

ran da??? 😳

[gleaming siren]

Dran da

[clever belfry]

andalf > dranda anyway

[gleaming siren]

I'm just glad I can ditch my Warlock now

And can pug first 2 next week to vault my House of Cards

Zug zug only from here on out

[clever belfry]

officer replacing poor melee player (@spongie) i see

nepobaby wcyd!!!!

[gleaming siren]

Nepobaby so hard I don't have to go VElf

[clever belfry]

holy moly

surely gbank wouldve paid that anyway

right

???

[gleaming siren]

Watch me leap with circle last second and wipe us

[clever belfry]

mage moment

[gleaming siren]

Can't wait to have some proper Mugzee pulls sunday

[clever belfry]

@gleaming siren huh this is honestly

kinda interesting

who the fuck made this lmao

[gleaming siren]

Chest head is crazy work

For mail

[clever belfry]

yeah mail eating best

l h for mages also good

frfr

[kind wind]

Would there be any way of calculating the value of using signet with a full m+ team of signet wearers? I've got Hero Signet but it sims worse than 658 Funhouse Lens.

[heavy nacelle]

I want a dps warrior spec that uses a weapon+shield and they would have offensive shield abilities and their defensive cooldowns would be shield themed :p I like shields but don't wanna tank

[chilly plume]

Glad stance?

[heavy nacelle]

not sure, that was the only expansion i didn't play

[clever belfry]

should be yes, however the secondary effect on the trinket isnt all that good. Not enough to make it better than lens for you
Simming the totality ot the party would be a slightly bigger ordeal

Doable, yeah, but bleh

[kind wind]

yeah i wasn't sure if the secondary part would make much of a difference tbh. I guess it's completely comp dependent, probably not worth the time to try and figure it out.

[gleaming siren]

https://github.com/simulationcraft/simc/wiki/ExpansionOptions

You can estimate stats gained, actually unsure if the party benefit is coded in, if so you could run simultaneous sims and have them buff each other in like advanced

[clever belfry]

if it isnt

time to implement it for the 3 people that do batchsims

[gleaming siren]

Saeldur is one of those 3 so he probably did it

[clever belfry]

he hasnt simmed toooo much this xpac

bro busy with actual stuff...

[gleaming siren]

If he gets paid for that happy for him

[clever belfry]

he does

[compact siren]

Thank you capybara man

https://tenor.com/view/capybara-gif-23999168

[gleaming siren]

https://tenor.com/view/shitty-glorp-life-i-cant-take-this-glorp-life-anymore-alien-girl-smoking-gif-8323861188386711474

[haughty quest]

does someone know if the lately updated bt wa in the luxthos package is on par with the linked one in this discord?

[remote bobcat]

unsure, but i recommend not using luxthos package

[earnest canyon]

Can anyone help me with the charged giga bombs? I simply cant see them with all the shit on the floor, and sometimes the bomb carriers die or are out of range.....do you get an extra action button to pick them up? I just cant see them at all unless others are just getting them too fast.....on gallywix ofc

[clever belfry]

extra action button

[undone flower]

Extra action to pick up and no button to send them into the coil

[clever belfry]

don't spam it, it'll insta drop again

theyre quite... finicky

[earnest canyon]

aaaaah

[undone flower]

The new extra button is to drop off the edge

[earnest canyon]

so one action button to collect, you dont just run over it

then another to throw if you arent putting it into the coil

why does no guide mention this? its just "collect the bombs and put them into the coil"

[undone flower]

That’s right when you stand on the coil platform with the bomb it sends it automatically

[earnest canyon]

but its definitely action button to collect

[undone flower]

Yep, remove your action button from your mouse wheel if you have on it

[earnest canyon]

nah i dont

i just need to be able to see the fucking things now

[undone flower]

Okok because it makes you drop it instantly

[earnest canyon]

yeah makes sense

[clever belfry]

Magnets, how do they work

[undone flower]

In pug I do bombs-coils bc I don’t trust pug, I just wait every add to be dead and I just stop attacking to find a bomb / or if i found one before i just go, dc about things following me

[earnest canyon]

i just tried it in a pug on HC and it was a shit show because the adds were never stacked and people were taking the bombs and just chucking them

[undone flower]

Which magnets ?

[earnest canyon]

does every single add drop a bomb?

or is it rng

[clever belfry]

bro

[slim pollen]

Pro tip: druid vortex works on the bombs themselves as they drop of the mobs, so you can perfectly stack all the bombs in 1 spot.

[undone flower]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-of-truth-horse-of-agreement-horse-horse-agree-agree-gif-12047072666965428527

[clever belfry]

2 rules of success

alway drink

always gamble

[earnest canyon]

does every mob drop a bomb?

[oblique trail]

Combine your chance of success by drinking a gonster while gambling

[clever belfry]

Gives energy to gamble more!

hard work needs supplements

[eternal compass]

Only some of them do

[earnest canyon]

Thankyou, thats what I thought

[slim pollen]

There are some drones that don't drop them, not sure if there are more types of mobs that don't tbh. I'm on coil bomb duty and rush off as soon as i get one of the first ones.
We decided the best way to do it was virtex bombs, have me pick up one and call out when i got it, then I heroic leap off to deliver it while the rest of melee/whoever is close deals with the rest.

It's a bit wonky getting the extra button to appear and using it, but be carefull not to spam as you'll just yeet it insta.
We also seem to have a bit of a problem with people stealing the bombs off eachother (most importantly me) which is why they wait for me to call that i have one.

[earnest canyon]

Yeah im either struggling to see them or people are stealing them

[clever belfry]

The classic
if anyone presses while the bomb flies to your back they just yoink it

awfully made mechanic

[gleaming siren]

Just glad it's not a thing to worry about in Mythic

[slim pollen]

Exactly this! Towards end of last phase, i click the keybind, see the icon change for half a sec, i heroic leap and call "Got one" aaaand it's gone as i land halfway across the platform

[inner zinc]

Goblin mechanic

[flat river]

1 more...

priory grr

[formal glacier]

The hard part of this is being invite in the group 😅 had to run my own key in order to grind my elo and complete 12/13’s

Even at this io I barely can get invite in a 10. Took me 20 min to get into a 6 yesterday. 💀

[supple estuary]

What 6 was it though

Seeing the level of players doing 6 cinderbrews is wild

Had a full group of 2.8-3.1 pugging it yesterday on a 6 just for neck

[still ibex]

I do not have the neck after 40+ runs aswell

[forest owl]

im glad it doesnt sim that great for me personally right now i dont like that dungeon

[iron portal]

Took me 6 priories

But my journey is done

[flat river]

oneshot it

am done

[iron portal]

Good

[chilly fractal]

only having 2 necks drop in all of M+ was overlooked I’m convinced

No chance it was a conscious decision

[supple estuary]

Yeah silly move for sure

[whole yacht]

I still have a 626 cloak 😄 and a mediocre neck. haven't seen a cloak since the season started

[earnest canyon]

how? all i get from delves is fucking cloaks 😦

[flat river]

1 more key

and im 3k

[quiet breach]

what do y'all think is easier to hit 3k io as, an average skill fury warrior or a low skill prot warrior

[flat river]

both same diff

[quiet breach]

dunno what this means

[whole yacht]

Brother idk

[mild ravine]

I had to craft a belt, it would t drop for me.

[flat river]

difficulty

low skill prot u get invited more

[whole yacht]

Im about to farm bis belt this weekend

[flat river]

but les timed cause low skill

average fury warrior less invites

more timed keys

[marble pilot]

How do you guys feel about Wowanalyzer? Useful tool or does it not understand fights/rotations well enough.
Or use it for some things but ignore it for others?

[granite crown]

Solid for pure ST, good when used correctly and not blindly following it

Best usecase is probably looking through the timeline and checking what casts you did which were "wrong", for me many of them are me being old as fuck and not reacting to Arms procs for example

[quiet breach]

on mythic vexie, what happens if multiple people stand in the soak? does it just give the canister to a random person in the soak circle?

is there a way the game decides who gets it that's known?

[granite crown]

Yep one random, and only that person gets oil and debuff

[quiet breach]

ty

[fiery flame]

avg fury, if u cant tank u brick the key

[slim pollen]

Also, do not try to be a smartass and soak in the overlap between 2 circles "in case you don't get one, you can get the other"
You'll end up dead 😂

[marble pilot]

I was thinking similar. Its useful to get an at a glace breakdown but you have to manually look at what it flags to see if it is actually a mistake. Thanks. I havnt used it in a while and wasnt sure how accurate it actually was.

[quiet breach]

what about if u do shit DMG as a tank but never die

[chilly plume]

I may just be dogshit at fury this szn but I do about the same damage in prot and fury

[fiery flame]

depends what do you mean about being a bad tank. bad tank to me is not knowing routes and not knowing how big you can handle

and doing shit dmg as tank and never die can be result of pulling small

[rare garnet]

Feel like playing queue roulette is easier than worrying about routes, pulls, and all the extra stuff tanks have to be involved in. Eventually your fury should get an invite and the rest of the group can “carry” but as a prot you’re always the limiting factor.

[tranquil jetty]

Question

Is fury still target capped

[sullen dove]

Cluegi

(always)

[tranquil jetty]

I play outlaw rogue

So i know the pain

Legit WHY

What flavor is there to being target capped

Its just a fucking stupid archaic design

[sly crane]

Cause ion hates warriors

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-emojis-emoticon-mood-anger-gif-16105101

grrrrrr ion

[sly crane]

Typical shaman player

[quiet breach]

what are the top 3 most uncapped specs

[warm crag]

chatgpt type question

[golden badge]

got it, ofc as warbound drop xD

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-does-he-know-gif-26833694

[quiet breach]

tf u can get house of cards as a war bound drop?

[warm crag]

@clever belfry @oblique trail sign off on this please

[sullen dove]

can’t argue with that

[clever belfry]

mind sear

true

[sullen dove]

Star fall hits everything forever

Actually true

Dev not wrong either love pyre merchant

[warm crag]

I wonder if this prompt will say that arms is a top spec for raid

[sullen dove]

cluegi

[warm crag]

👀

[modest condor]

uhhhh

[warm crag]

cleave hits up to 5

true

[modest condor]

real

[warm crag]

Scaling: Scales best with 3–5 targets, which is perfect for most raid cleave.

arms is known for 3-5 target scaling

falls off hard at 2

[modest condor]

chatgpt is so wise

[warm crag]

Certainly! For The War Within Season 2, the recommended Arms Warrior builds focus on maximizing damage output in PvP scenarios.

[clever belfry]

soft-uncapped

[warm crag]

guess we're pvping now

[clever belfry]

new term just dropped

[winter shoal]

Me when I burn down several trees to make the funny matrix confidently provide me with incorrect information

[warm crag]

matrixmultiplikation

[modest condor]

unhinged for consistent aoe

[warm crag]

im launching wow to try the bogus talent code

[modest condor]

never forget what blizzard took away from us

you can just try it on wowhead

[marble pilot]

Soft uncapped is annoying to me lol

[warm crag]

no cause that wouldnt be funny

[modest condor]

fair

[sullen dove]

it said df s4 tho