fury

[clever belfry]

if u can afford it you wanna stay on boss and just passive cleave adds

if you cant, you should play arms.

[ancient olive]

Yeah might be worth

Feel like there’s a lot of dead periods on fury where I’m technically in an aoe build but I’m maybe attacking 2 targets but also half the time literally just one add

[gleaming siren]

Don't play Thane in Heroic

tbh

[ancient olive]

Yeah I saw it was mostly slayer on heroic

[gleaming siren]

Thane does like.. damage to Dynamite Booties and some to Assistants

[ancient olive]

Curious though whether the guys on mythic were onto smth but idk

[gleaming siren]

Thane does things you need to solve on mythic but warrior is aggressively mid on Bandit either way

so you're just committing to being as useful as possible which in Mythic is hitting adds

Mythic Bandit is a weird fight because it's all about the adds and basically never about maximizing boss DPS

If you kill adds fast enough and don't die boss dies

that's the whole fight

[topaz crag]

check out my weekly guys!

[clever belfry]

mid? its bad.

(not me playing 2 warriors on that fight)

[ancient olive]

Just feels lame bc I get parse isn’t everything but like it feels good to get ur parses up but I keep getting greens on bandit

[next ruin]

I guess they tunnel on boss on thane and passively clean the adds right?

Seems counterintuitive

[ancient olive]

Would I be right in assuming like a lot of high parsers on fury are people who are able to spend more time to just attack the boss and maybe cleave down some ads

On bandit specifically

In my experience doing it though I don’t really have the option to stick on boss I have have to spend a lot of time focusing specifically ads

[bitter palm]

let me guess.... bis reserved for you???.... lootfed...

[clever belfry]

? no

im playing

aîawia on mugzee

so i dont get it for sure

[bitter palm]

unluck

[clever belfry]

scary individual

[bitter palm]

graduate.. educated monk

monk mental

[warm crag]

Bis and 2 cards dropped for us and i got nothing tf?

[clever belfry]

👉 🚪

hasnt schmidi told u?

ure getting kicked post gally spongie

[warm crag]

Gg

[clever belfry]

schmidi warrior main now

[tribal trout]

guys what about Single-minded fury is it an option or it never been tried

[clever belfry]

its never been tried

its bad

dont bother

[warm crag]

Maybe its very broken since no one ever Tried it before

Or smf daggers

[clever belfry]

@compact siren have u heard of the earthen passive

[tribal trout]

even with [Capo's Molten Knuckles]

[clever belfry]

no one has ever tried it

impossible

(its bad) (it really is)

[warm crag]

U can take 15 minutes and sim how good smf is

[clever belfry]

this has never been attempted

[warm crag]

Spoiler even if u Talent smf u still want To dual wield 2hs

[warm crag]

True

[compact siren]

Can you run me through the benefits and potential synergy with the warrior tree?

[clever belfry]

as you might know warrior has a talent that increases your str by a % of your armor

[warm crag]

Ask chat gpt

[clever belfry]

earthen increases armor

i think

[granite trout]

I've got two mechanics questions -- Does our AOE from thunderclap, for instance, affect all targets equally? Like if I have 4 targets and I want to be focusing one, does it matter if that's my primary target or is everyone getting rampaged evenly?

Second, how does execute damage spread via AOE?

[clever belfry]

it is powerful potentially

[compact siren]

Has ANYONE done a sim on this

Apart from spongie

[warm crag]

Rude

[compact siren]

Sorry but last time you told me to prio whirlwind in single target… I will never trust you again

[barren dagger]

Are people playing more arms now on bosses vs beginning of season?

arms is scaling better or?

[clever belfry]

s word

[barren dagger]

Sus

[cinder hornet]

thoughts on hero energy drink vs myth vers/mast pants from vault? I've already got myth pacemaker and champ energy drink. What's the better choice in the long run

[honest sundial]

first aug, then monk what a fotm

[clever belfry]

bro does not know hunter lore

or mage lore

i am a wow player

[fading sky]

I mean wdym

On certain bosses arms is better

Or well prefered

But fury is very strong overall in raid

[honest sundial]

I actually know hunter
Forgot
But you were in top 10 guild at that point

[clever belfry]

i never mained hunter in pieces esprots

[honest sundial]

hmm

[clever belfry]

i played hunter in nathria for bald fat & ugly

cause warrior was just awful early on

and my cowarrior had a shaman alt while i had a hunter alt

and mr fatboss alex wanted to put me into the raid

[honest sundial]

When did mage happen

[clever belfry]

SL mdi s2

i threw many ice lances

[oblique trail]

Mageda

[honest sundial]

Ah as long as you don't play it on live you are forgiven

[clever belfry]

drandadn

[oblique trail]

worst timeline

the doktor

[clever belfry]

this character

was always bin

but the name was funny enough to level

[coarse nest]

Andalf bro that goes hard Hollyy

[clever belfry]

(its also a lightforged (lf))

true

anda-lf or (g)andalf

[oblique trail]

🐐

[clever belfry]

its a double whammy

crazy name

[coarse nest]

Gyattdayum

Get this guy a crown

[clever belfry]

👑 🧎‍♂️

[coarse nest]

[earnest river]

which talent is worth to drop for single minded fury? XD

[thick fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/gandalf-gif-10634010482872098537

[thick fossil]

None. SMF is a meme.

[earnest river]

i know brother

i just wanna meme in low keys

[thick fossil]

Most likely depths of insanity.

Though that in itself is rather hilarious irony.

[sand crest]

probably wanna drop either DoI or unhinged ye

[earnest river]

yea i dropped Unhinged

thanks tho, apreciated ❤️

[thick fossil]

Unhinged is what makes bladestorm/ravager actually smack.

[gilded pawn]

No way we just recommended dropping unhinged

That’s unhinged

[sand crest]

there is no shot dropping something like VC is better than dropping unhinged

unhinged not cleaving makes it garbage in keys overall

dropping DoI might still be better

doubt the difference is big either way

[thick fossil]

Dropping DoI is what they should be doing.

[forest owl]

can you no longer farm weathered crests by flying through the orbs anymore?

like in s1

[unique wyvern]

guys, mountain thane in m+ is basically TB with 2 stacks and/or to get WW buff and then spam the hell of Raging Blow, right?

is even worth to spam Bloodthirst in aoe? Raging Blows is hitting like a truck

[winter shoal]

APL says BT over RB at 6+ targets but Silm said it's only a very small loss to BT over RB in any aoe target count

[barren dagger]

Yellows told me to spam BT to fish for thunderblast procs

Im just tryna reduce the gap between me and a UH DK on a 50 mob pull

What can you do

[tepid cedar]

lol same question every day. best thing for u to do

go do a 5t sim

look at the mock sceneario

[barren dagger]

Same question cause it doesn’t say it in the wowhead guide

[tepid cedar]

and all ur questions are answered there

[barren dagger]

So i understand

[next ruin]

Reroll ele sham or boomy

[barren dagger]

No i just respec arms

[tepid cedar]

whats ur character name and realm

[barren dagger]

Revvez but i don’t do m+ really

I play on tarren mill

[tepid cedar]

this right?

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/eyCpB8fVBzmzHLSJwB91pB

ok, click on that link

u have 2 options

[mental folio]

bro he's trolling you he aint revvez

[tepid cedar]

i know

im stil gona help the idiot out

dude is asking for help and im legitimately trying to help

[mental folio]

if he aint gunna give you actuall information there is no point cos it aint gunna help him :L

[barren dagger]

I never asked for help lmao

[low folio]

it does kinda suck that they seem to want to force fury into a low target count niche

[mental folio]

they just need to remove target cap for everyclass

[next ruin]

In raid it doesn't matter and feel good

[low folio]

i dont like raid

[next ruin]

They're not gonna have many people work full time to redesign one spec for a sub game mode

[tepid cedar]

unfortunately,, if they are eeping us gated bc their idiots. they would need to increase our damage so we actualy do what we are suppose to do, prio low count dps. problem is that we would then really dominate raids

[low folio]

M+ is just a better game made

[tepid cedar]

but i agree. just soft cap everyone at 5 targets, and reduced damage past 5.

[mental folio]

they cant softcap unfortunately it would kill off high level keys

[near wing]

Why can’t they just scale the damage past 5 targets to like 10%

Give us something

Or 5%

It seems like an easy fix, not sure what I’m missing

[low folio]

i havnt kept up with things all the time but i wonder what their plans for hero talents are going into the next expansion

[tepid cedar]

on the 15 cinder run. i was absolutely fkn nukiiiiiin. tank DC for 2 min, and we missed timer by like 20 sec and i had 1 silly death at the start lust pull. finished at 3.5 mill. shouldve higher. and i was still always under by 1-2 mill on pulls. and ST, i was on top, but really not by such a crazy margin as ud expect. now going off a 15, i wouldve ranked 1 parsed that 15 by about 200k. ( give or take) more or less. these guys were in the low 90x.

that is such a huge discreptancy

[next ruin]

If you want to play the best spec, play the best spec

[low folio]

me personally id quit wow if warrior didnt exist

[dense elbow]

Would be funny if they branched the hero talents, so Fury Slayer Destroyer and Fury Thane Singblade.
I am sure that would make things nice and comfy for the balance team

[tepid cedar]

like we can legit play pretty fkn flawless. and still be at an abive average ( metaandy) lolol

[low folio]

slayer destroyer sounds very fury

[tepid cedar]

booty destroyer you mean

cause we asss

[sour frigate]

balance team

[dense elbow]

[low folio]

isnt the .5 patch this month? or is that next month

[near wing]

I don’t understand this statement- I do play the best class. Just trying to understand why scaling damage past 5 targets is problematic

[tepid cedar]

didnt they say it was end of april

[low folio]

idk i hope so

the little tokens to purchase raid items will help a non raider like me

[tepid cedar]

im jsut waiting for the patch notes to say.....

arms and fury abilities decreased by 5%

[near wing]

You might need to raid to fetch those tokens Lolol

[red berry]

i need some fury AoE buff immediately i am begging

😭

[next ruin]

I don't try to understand things. They choose the balancing, that's about it

Fury feels really good in raid, if that means I must play something else in another game mode? I'm fine

It's like being mad fury isnt top 1 raid, top 1 m+ and top 1 arena
Also needs to be top 1 rbg

And top 1 delve clear

[tepid cedar]

lol we are quickly falling off in raid too

[noble elm]

It’s not a damage problem it’s a target cap problem

They will never buff fury aoe wantonly because of its burst, it would impact raid dps for burst fights way too much

[tepid cedar]

adds die faster. and then we see how our boss dps really isnt super amazing

[noble elm]

Like rashanan

[flat river]

GUYS

I HAD A DREAM

THAT FURY WARRIOR WERE GIVEN 8+ TARGETS ON MEATCLEAVER

[thick fossil]

Monk and mage get a sad ass 3% aura nerf after being heavily stacked for raid comps. Fury gets almost gutted from S1 for the same reason. It doesn't add up.

Unholy allowed to be insanely over powered in M+ and we see zero nerfs.

Fucking Blizzard is just being willfully ignorant.

[tepid cedar]

lol i missed s1. how goood were we at start

[thick fossil]

We were on the edge of being op. It's just our cool downs lined up with every add spawn that died super fast.

[burnt nacelle]

this is alot of discussion for unga bunga spec

I am a simple man

I hit my 3 buttons

Boss dies

[thick fossil]

Unga bunga is tired of not being Unga bunga enough.

So you play Ret Paladin now?

[burnt nacelle]

Kek no

Why would I play literal femboy

[thick fossil]

I have no respect for Ret Paladin mains.

[burnt nacelle]

honestly

You can chat for hours about how shit fury is

The secret is

be better

[tepid cedar]

🤣

[oak peak]

how do i look at recent first time kills to a boss?

on warcraftlogs

[dense elbow]

Nah, the new buff meta is: Raging blow damage increased by 10%, Bloodthirst by 10%, Rampage 5%.

[next ruin]

Best secret is playing the good classes

[burnt nacelle]

Nah

[thick fossil]

Ok, I'll keep slapping 5 ish targets for x damage. While most others are hitting 8 - unlimited for 5x damage. That's just a skill issue. Check.

[burnt nacelle]

Unless you’re in the top % it dosent matter

Meta and tier lists mean literally nothing

[next ruin]

It matters at every single rio

[burnt nacelle]

unless you’re an Aug evoker

[dense elbow]

Stop trying to monkey paw us

[thick fossil]

It matters when you're almost 3100 IO and can't get into keys you need to progress.

[burnt nacelle]

Skill issue

[next ruin]

You get invited way less that's it

[burnt nacelle]

Nah to be fair

[dense elbow]

Cryllics always invite warriors

[tepid cedar]

dont worry, it gets 10x worst

🤣

[burnt nacelle]

Key Invs are dog shit this season

[next ruin]

Why would they invite a fury warrior

[thick fossil]

If I had a set team, different story. Good luck getting anywhere without it though.

[dense elbow]

When I invite 3 fury warriors to DPS my keys, they always get so happy

I invite them cause it makes em happy to pump and do the key, without being judged!

3x Fury = a very smooth weekly 10-12 key

[tepid cedar]

lol when even the shitters at DK, boomie enhance and pally can hit 2-3 bil more dps with literally no class knowledge lol

[dense elbow]

Then the shitter DK, boome and pally do 1m boss DPS or less

And the boss just... never dies

[tepid cedar]

lol fun

if only it was working likle that

the diff isnt that big

in ST vs the diff in aoe

[thick fossil]

DK is just straight broken right now, no one is arguing that.
That doesn't mean that Warrior should just be left in the dust by the vast majority of other classes.

[tepid cedar]

so, u would say

TOP

thats a key thats mnore " fury" styled right

[dense elbow]

Just buff Raging blow a good 15%, and we guchi

[tepid cedar]

this is a time 15 top

[thick fossil]

ToP is the only dungeon in the current rotation that is even close to being a Fury dungeon. Even then, most others are leaving us in the dust.

[sour frigate]

balanced perfectly

[dense elbow]

Clearly an example of doctored pics to paint a picture that Fury isn't OP.

[tepid cedar]

first boss, ok lot of cleaving

gorechop

kul

[dense elbow]

My god, clearly you trolled by getting chained

[thick fossil]

Show us that Cinderbrew. Kekw

[dense elbow]

[tepid cedar]

this is final bos i did die here once from bad palcement

its not buig diff

vs aoe

[thick fossil]

It's ToP.

It's thr only dungeon where Fury actually has a chance.

[dense elbow]

If we could SR the tankbuster, you would be top

[tepid cedar]

and we stilll dont

[thick fossil]

Exactly.

[dense elbow]

Show Cinderbrew, you coward, we know Fury sleeper OP there

[thick fossil]

He did.

[tepid cedar]

i jsut dhowesd it to u

[thick fossil]

We are agreeing.

[tepid cedar]

and that was with a 2 min tank dc

[dense elbow]

Nah, show the real one

The one with Fury on top

[tepid cedar]

i wish

lol

[low folio]

stuck farming motherload for the haste mastery ring to try and fix my stats

[dense elbow]

We pray for good drops for you, Pride

[thick fossil]

We're all agreeing here. No point in bitching over mistaken points.

[dense elbow]

We aint agreeing in here, this is Skyhold.

[tepid cedar]

again, im not gods gift to fury. but im pretty damn good and play at a very good level. and still stand no fkn chance, and ST which is suppose to be our " niche" really fkn isnt lol

[dense elbow]

Only boss I feel my DPS is real strong, is last boss in Rookery

[low folio]

ya slayer fury is the answer to all problems, instead of just buffing bladestorm, it should let us have both bs and ravager

super spins

[dense elbow]

Ye, that is a fix, would be a shame if we played BS at all.

[low folio]

bs in aoe feels great

[storm birch]

Ravager doesn’t give strength as it’s out anymore does it ? Maybe that should come back 😭

[dense elbow]

BS in AoE would feel great if it did dam

[tepid cedar]

tying the entire slayer to bladestorm only is fkn ridiculous

[low folio]

i prefer it over ravager but its only good on slayer

[thick fossil]

Yes, we agree on that. That's why Warrior dps needs more buffs or updated to stand a chance of being competitive. Only warriors with set groups are truly excelling. Crit, Novix, etc.

[dense elbow]

I dont mind Slayer having Bladestorm as its button. With synergy built around it.

[tepid cedar]

and even then bro

[dense elbow]

It just got to bring Bladestorm to the level of other things that AoE.

[tepid cedar]

they have to do absolutely nutty fucking mechs and routes

and play beyond flawless

to time a 17

[low folio]

bring back unhinged cleaving

[dense elbow]

Would help make the reap RNG of BS feel better, sure

[flat river]

;-;

[thick fossil]

If they updated us with blood lust, target caps, and actual good cool downs/capstone talents, we would certainly be back in the race. Maybe not meta, but at least we'd fit into a lot more group comps.

[tepid cedar]

2 moreeeeee and can finaly start pushing 16ssssss

but its been a grind

[thick fossil]

Yeah I don't have 2 hours waiting in LFG for invites.

And I'm not buying runs like some people I know.

[noble elm]

You must really love fury to push to that level without just rerolling dk

[dense elbow]

[tepid cedar]

i dont even have alts lol

well i lie, i have 3 that i use dlvl up token in but never touched them lolol

[winter shoal]

apoc are you EU or NA

[tepid cedar]

im NA

[winter shoal]

I think you giga gapped me in an AV in df s1

Or s2 maybe idr

[tepid cedar]

1 or 2,possibly i didnt play s3

pushed hard s1 though

[sour frigate]

[tepid cedar]

did u time that 15 ml??!?!?!

[sour frigate]

no im shit

[tepid cedar]

damnnnnn

go get it bro!!

[sour frigate]

ye being pumping since yesterday

timed 2 keys out of 13

need to do 14 resil

[tepid cedar]

floodgate is a pain in the dik

i had to play that bullshit arms class to make it easier

[low folio]

I tried my 14 floodgate earlier and invited a rogue that ended up doing so little damage for a 3100 rogue that the tank and lock left before we killed first boss

[tepid cedar]

assa rogues are lowkey broken lol

they can burst 20-25 mil on some of the nutty pulls with lust

[sour frigate]

i faild 14 flood cuz got some iffy lags and were 20 sec overtime due to 2 deathes

[low folio]

rogues are definitely not a bad class, just that rogue was

[sour frigate]

and shaman had like 3kk overal

[feral ivy]

do yall think meele should be doing more dmg on rook 2nd boss than range?

[tepid cedar]

negative

to much downtime

u can keep it close

[next ruin]

Just play ret you'll have 0 downtime

[low folio]

just hit boss harder zug

[feral ivy]

thats what i thought but honestly just beat mage and warlock and i notice its always close but damn

[tepid cedar]

i wil tell u one thing though

[dense elbow]

I hate that you are right

[tepid cedar]

i swaspped to mister lock trinket over my 658 mechano

im not going back to mechano

[low folio]

im stuck with signet not aligning with cds for a while

[tepid cedar]

keep that mfr on mas destruction and strageticaly swap to ST when u know its nothing but ST

[next ruin]

I geared my druid and I'm gearing an ele sham now, not letting Blizzard win this season

[dense elbow]

If you swap from Slayer Fury in M+, you already lost

[low folio]

i kinda wanna gear a dev evoker just because i think rescue is a fun aability

[next ruin]

insert doing low amount of damage

[stone merlin]

Dev Evoker is really fun

[tepid cedar]

hits soi fkn hard too

[sour frigate]

🔥 🐲

[next ruin]

Dev evoker is ten times better than warrior

[winter shoal]

Did they change the spell queueing? I feel like I didn't have any leap into succ when I did it yesterday

[sour frigate]

🎆 🎆 🎆 🐲

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-cat-gif-25783770

[feral ivy]

ive been inviting dev evokers and they been doing dmg in my keys

[thick fossil]

I am the same way. I hate alts. Every time I try to play something else I never get far and lose interest.

[next ruin]

Boomy, mage, shaman, dev. Just play those, why play our dumb class

[feral ivy]

its the re gearing and re learning

if anythign only alt i find fun is surv hunter

that shit is fun as fuck

[sour frigate]

🎆 🔥 🐲 🎆

[low folio]

i remember when i was gearing my evoker in DF, throne of tides. A warrior leaped forward at the start of the dungeon to reach the first pack. I rescue him back to the start and say oh misclick

[tepid cedar]

not sure tbh. i only ran a few 10s tanking for crest and like 1 12 with guildies so i cant really say anything

[next ruin]

People be talking about target caps being the issue, then ele sham tops recount in brew

[winter shoal]

HOLY recount

[low folio]

ele does super damage

[sour frigate]

ele sham has much higher aoe ceiling lol

[plush zephyr]

What a weirdo

[tepid cedar]

i did notice a alot more overlaps from the leap into the suck as well. where u couldnt even keep uptime on the pull

[next ruin]

It was a ragebait, I will be using it again, it's strong

[tepid cedar]

not sure if server lag or what

[sour frigate]

also check bm has 8+ targets cleave and tops damage often

[stone merlin]

[feral ivy]

why is it different for others?

[sour frigate]

mm has most of damage locked at 5 but holy aimed shots are huge

[low folio]

because they are others

[plush zephyr]

Bro after getting decent with fury it’s really hard to be like “im going to back to arms to press more buttons but do pretty much the same damage”

[warped maple]

what weak aura you guys use for rotation

[low folio]

arms definitely does more damage in keys

[plush zephyr]

DoctorWarios UI for me

[next ruin]

In some way, arms has less buttons
Just many useless ones to press before hitting

[plush zephyr]

Don’t call rend useless cmon lol

[thick fossil]

Arms is better for M+ both have about the same amount of buttons. One just has more damage.

[plush zephyr]

Cleave is really the biggest separation

[tepid cedar]

but ST dps is shiiitteeee

[plush zephyr]

Shit goes brrrrrr

[low folio]

im super unoptimized on arms. i dont wanna make extra keybinds for individual rends or add slam to my bar

[tepid cedar]

u stil lose in aoe, and then do less ST LOL

[plush zephyr]

It’s like, 2-3 more buttons

Max

[next ruin]

It's many more cd's to bind, but rotational abilities aren't that much, esp as colo arms where you basically never exec

Almost never slam outside ST

[plush zephyr]

Actually fury does have more 1.5min cools to press back to back tbh

[thick fossil]

You can have just as good ST on Arms as Fury, just a lot more aoe.

[plush zephyr]

There’s about four times a dungeon that it’s optimal to press slam

Only four lol

As an arms

[steel igloo]

I'm an arms enjoyer. last time I played fury was in SL but I figured i'd play it on stix kills. my question is why I dont have 80 rage for a rampage that the opener suggest you should be having and also looking at logs other seems to be aswell. what am I missing?

[tepid cedar]

bnro these tender polearms are fucking massiveeeeeeee

[tepid cedar]

i guess is cause im not geared towards arms at all so proly make a diff

[next ruin]

Do you have reck before or after avatar in your macro?

[steel igloo]

after

[tepid cedar]

i feel like a DH lolol

[next ruin]

Put it before

[steel igloo]

thanks lad

[plush zephyr]

Tbh slayer Arms is just hard to keep up with

[thick fossil]

lol, maybe

[plush zephyr]

In st

[steel igloo]

worked

[next ruin]

Next thing is, try not to press your macro before the boss is pulled

[low folio]

apoc is right tho, fury will definitely provide more single target/prio damage in a key than arms

[plush zephyr]

Sole reason I started playing fury was for a simpler st rotation

Because slayer arms to me just feels like shit

[next ruin]

Prio damage feels like coping tbf

[plush zephyr]

AoE colossus feels perfect for arms though

[jagged ledge]

for things like slaughtering strikes and brutal finish are the multipliers add together so it'd be like 2.5x rampage damage if both were active?

[low folio]

i mean if you compare to other classes it is

but there are dungeons that prio damage does matter

[next ruin]

Most of the time it's about not padding and doing st with light cleave

People just want do divine storm

I hate them

[tepid cedar]

this was the 15 flood i ran. i will say, the increase pack dps thats consistent with arms made it so much easier

[low folio]

ya floodgate is big packs

[plush zephyr]

Cleave+dots from rend+demolish+tr just so much aoe damage it’s insane

[thick fossil]

I still haven't run a single Priory as Fury. lol

[plush zephyr]

Just how it feels to me that blizzard wanted arms for m+ and fury for raid, just me though.

[low folio]

they dont think that far ahead

not anymore

[plush zephyr]

Arms is parsing insanely high in fights though

[tepid cedar]

oonce u get passed the outside portion. prioiry is pretty easy

[plush zephyr]

Only thing I see people struggle with on prio is the soaks after hammers

[tepid cedar]

kezan is actually realllllly good in priory

[next ruin]

I feel like rend do negative damage, while having fury gear

[thick fossil]

Priory is one of the two 13s I still need to finish off 13 resil. Already started working on 14s. Kinda silly. Still, refuse to play Fury in there.
Arms though, that I've come to love every where.

[sour frigate]

the priory took me the most tries to do

awful dunge

at least in puggi

[thick fossil]

Worst thing about Priory is a lot depends on the tank and healer not fucking up.

At least the first half.

[tepid cedar]

a good tank there is insane

[low folio]

farming +10 motherloads for a ring is annoying when tanks decide their route needs to have the first peacekeeper at the start pulled with everything else

[tepid cedar]

especially a good brew

[thick fossil]

Yup

[sour frigate]

i dunno did it in +15 completely fine

[thick fossil]

Makes it so much easier to handle kicks and stun rotations.

[tepid cedar]

this was like 2 weeks ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC5gD8EkvZI

[low folio]

idk i think theres no reason to pull any peacekeeper other than the one before boss

[tepid cedar]

rank a priory with equinox

ran

dude is sooooo fucking goooood

[sour frigate]

pad numbers

[winter shoal]

I ran a siege with him and a mw last season

[tepid cedar]

hes so good bro

[winter shoal]

Full melee comp = me getting targeted by first boss without expecting it = wipe

🙂

[thick fossil]

Double knights, that healer was solid as well.

[sour frigate]

well i had a 2kk in mechagon +10 boost run

as brew

[tepid cedar]

yea.

[clever path]

is this talent worth taking in M+ under any circumstance?

[sour frigate]

no

left talent makes tb hit harder

[clever path]

ah okay, thx for answering

[chilly fractal]

I like the Priory ring more personally

[thick fossil]

Yeah, this tank's movements and mob control is something I would love to play with.

[tepid cedar]

i think hes the best brew in NA

[thick fossil]

You play with him regularly?

[tepid cedar]

nah. when i can.

il mesage him

if hes up for it

[thick fossil]

Yeah, I don't like bugging my friends like that. I'm one of those ppl that will pug until I can asked to join.

[fervent yoke]

Is it just me or are rogues flying under the radar pumping dmg

[tepid cedar]

assassin is absolutely nasty

[next ruin]

The padd meisters

[thick fossil]

Assassin and Subtlety

[low folio]

two dungeons in a row someone else gets the ring 😦

[cinder viper]

rip

[tepid cedar]

what ring u trying to get

[low folio]

motherload

haste mastery ring

[clever belfry]

balls vs ballshd

who wins

[smoky vale]

dn

[cinder viper]

man trying to pug into keys is so damn hard as a warrior lol. 2100+ io, 659 gear score, dont even get accepted for 8's half the time

sht sucks

[gleaming siren]

balls8k

[cinder viper]

ballsqhd

[tepid cedar]

stay strong my zug brother

[sour frigate]

frankly u can reg ur own key now while the game is alive

[cinder viper]

even listing my own key im waiting like up to an hour to get a group if i aint running with the guildies

[clever belfry]

balls1440p*

[sour frigate]

😦

[clever path]

i'm a bit lost as to how to make mountain thane work in m+

[tepid cedar]

im jsut mad i dont think i will make title cut off as fury. so sadge

[sour frigate]

@dense elbow im just trying to get boosted but have to work my ass off

[clever path]

my damage is so lack lusterr compared to slayer despite mountain thane being arguably the easiest prioty i nthe entire game

and better suited for m+

[tepid cedar]

iof ur playing slayer ur throwing in keys unfortunately lol

[sour frigate]

well

depends on key level

[clever path]

i know but i just do not understand why mountain thane doesnt deal damage

[sour frigate]

slayer can perform well in low keys

where packs die fast

[clever path]

656 ilvl for reference

just did a +10

[sour frigate]

ye

there u just burst packs down

[cinder viper]

i feel i do far more dmg as thane over slayer in m+

[clever path]

i must be wasting my cooldowns by mere seconds

maybe not hitting thunderous roar in favour of spending rage is bad?

hm

[tepid cedar]

thudnerous is our only pad skill

send it

[clever path]

got it ty ty

i do have one last question

is never being capped on rage paramount

to the point where you miss abilities jsut to make sure you dont cap past 100

[sour frigate]

just press rampage...

[clever path]

or od i just fuckin send it and slam my CD's straight away

[cinder viper]

i feel slayer can be good in dungeons with smaller pack sized, which isnt really in anything in this rotation this season

slayer is alot better in single target inherrently with marked for exectutions execute buff

i got myself a weak aura to specifically track marked for execution stacks and only using execute on 3 stacks, and i noticed a pretty decent dps buff

(in single target build)

[keen kindle]

Theater of pain says hello

[cinder viper]

thats the only dungeon that i run on slayer

[smoky vale]

just play arms with long sweep

[cinder viper]

i cant play armsssssss, been fury for too long lol

2 big swoord better than 1

[clever path]

okay yeah ive just checked my uptime and thunderous roar was not pulling numbers

[cinder viper]

yea, i bascially use thunderous roar on cd, unless coming up to a boss then ill save it

[modest condor]

thunderous roar isnt gonna look big on your overall

i think even in the big pad dungeons it's gonna do like 6% of your damage or something

[cinder viper]

i try to just use everything on cd as best i can, when im running with guildies i know my tanks pull paths so i know whens the best time to use cds

which definately helps

[low folio]

dude im leveling my evoker in timewalking at level 70 and im literally one shotting everything

this is crazy scaling

[cinder viper]

using cds at the best times/ right sized pulls and knowing when to save them for bigger pulls will also help with ur dps numbers

[smoky vale]

nah

send cds on cd

make mistakes learn

[cinder viper]

im happy timewalking is back, can finally lvl my last alt for having one of every class at lvl 80

[fossil orbit]

Anyone else feel like fury could use a buff soon? And what do you think would be appropriate?

[cinder viper]

please for the love of god either up the aoe target cap or get rid of it

thats all i want lmao

dont have to buff any kinda damage

just sort out that fucking cap and ill be happy

[fossil orbit]

Agree

[low folio]

make whirlwind do 1000x more damage so our aoe rotation is just whirlwinding

[fossil orbit]

Lol

[modest condor]

our cooldowns are low enough that holding them is almost never worth it

[cinder viper]

make our wirlwind do the same dmg as the mobs in theatre of pains

[modest condor]

unless a pack is already about to die

if you do a small pull just send cds you'll have them back up for the big pull after

[cinder viper]

im more just saying in terms of if its a small pull, pack is about to die, if its the last pull before boss etc. i rarely hold cds but there are times where i will hold them cause i know ill have more value using them on the next pack or something like that

[modest condor]

you use them anyway, if the next pack dies before your cooldowns come back up then you didnt need your cooldowns on that pack anyway so you didnt use them at the wrong time

[cinder viper]

hmmm, when you put it that way that does make sense

[modest condor]

there are very few moments where holding for the next pack is worth it as fury

[cinder viper]

yea i guess thats true, especially for ravager and recklessness

theyre on such short cds with reduction on rage spend

[modest condor]

exactly

[cinder viper]

i have my recklessness and ravager macroed together anyways lol, if im casting one i was always casting the other anyways so i decided why not

makes it heaps easier than trying to hit 2 buttons i didnt have very close togetehr haha

[plush zephyr]

Anyone have a recommendation of a Fury to watch a pov of heroic undermine

[tepid cedar]

critcake

when they do raid

[plush zephyr]

Figured

[iron portal]

Heroic undermine though

For him prob quick breeze

[plush zephyr]

Da boiiii crit

[dense elbow]

If I am anywhere near the top of the DPS meter in keys. It dead. I can see it is the same for you 😏

[fickle cedar]

nicest kazzak player

[arctic portal]

nice and kazzak in one sentence seems a bit like ... star wars

[sullen dove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/466857693617979402/1357233574650314892/shitgame.mp4?ex=67ef75c4&is=67ee2444&hm=bb9508847e33d060cc0d8131d111c6dda0bd80855dc31bf0bd0dcb1c36f99cb4&

this some fire

[sleek parrot]

guys what cirlet gems to use, icyveins and wowhead guides are a bit different

[marble schooner]

damn just got called a Ragger on a key

that was a first for me

[earnest canyon]

What's a ragger?

[marble schooner]

im a Ragnaros player

so you know

yeah

[next ruin]

is suspicious energy drink one of the good delves trinkets ?

[earnest canyon]

Idk anything about that server, no

[winter shoal]

Yes

[marble schooner]

its a made up slur cause NA peeps hate Rag players

Rag players = Latino

[winter shoal]

Rag is one of the latin american servers

[earnest canyon]

Ahhh

[winter shoal]

Rag, Sargeras, Azralon, Nemesis

Maybe a couple more

[marble schooner]

nah

Rag, Quel Thalas, Drakkari are spanish latino american

[next ruin]

all of these are also non english speak realms (or used to be) in eu

[winter shoal]

Oh yeah Quel Thalas

[next ruin]

esxcept azralon, never seen this

[marble schooner]

Azralon Nemesis brazilian

Sargeras is murican afaik

[next ruin]

got it as my second bountiful, guess thats enough delves for today

[marble schooner]

the funny thing is I was dead silent whole key just pressing buttons

this is DFC

on the minecart minigame I went to get a drink cause it really doesnt matter if you hit the guy

and they started saying shit like wow the ragger didnt hit the guy classic rag player and i was like, dude it literally doesnt matter it will be at 90% hp either way

and they were like no uh learn the dung

and started spamming spit and shit

[winter shoal]

I mean it kinda does matter no? Still takes hp off the boss

But yeah NA players kinda omega racist against latin server players

[marble schooner]

nah ive taken him to 84% and then you get there and its at 90%

and then in a run we didnt hit him at all

and still, 90%

[marble schooner]

I mean I know Rag players arent saints lmao

but most of the bad rep comes from poor communication cause latino players often just dont speak english and then get treated like they are dumb cause of it as if it was some mandate from heaven knowing english

[winter shoal]

I mean I won't lie some of the most insanely dogshit players I've ever had the misfortune of pugging with were on Rag

But I'm not gonna generalize an entire population based on that

[marble schooner]

so yeah I got friends that get very frustrated when they speak in broken english and then get insta made fun of cause rag player bad engrish

[marble schooner]

yah I think we got some very bad players as well

[winter shoal]

My old guild was trialing a resto shaman once who was on one of the latin servers and bro didn't know what spirit link was in english

[marble schooner]

but its like a confirmation bias as well, ppl are pre-programmed to fixate on Rag players so when one of them is bad or toxic ppl will remember

[winter shoal]

So when the RL called for it, he just never used it

[marble schooner]

when not, they just go unnoticed

like le women drivers

[winter shoal]

True

[red berry]

there is absolutely a disgusting amount of racism rag players get

shits fucking annoying

[velvet obsidian]

Does it have anything to do with server ping for Rag? I always figured that was the problem more than their personal skill

[marble schooner]

I was also a negationist on "being from rag makes it impossible to pug keys"

but yeah now after ive gotten a few whispers like "no rag players" or the insta-declines from filter addons

[warm crag]

wtf are u saying

@oblique trail did you know u have bad ping i guess

[marble schooner]

most Rag players play with 200+ms yeah but i dont think its that bad

[warm crag]

source???

[marble schooner]

im rag player

?

[oblique trail]

Do I?

[warm crag]

you are most rag players??

[oblique trail]

Are we talking EU or NA Rag

[marble schooner]

Argentina and Chile are 5k miles away from server

NA Rag ofc

[warm crag]

idk eu rag since thats where im from

[marble schooner]

we were talking about latino players

how do latino play in EU man lol

well I guess spaniards and shit

hahaha

[sullen dove]

sargeras??

where bruh

[warm crag]

least america centric message ever uttered in skyhold

[sullen dove]

lol

[marble schooner]

followed by recognizing there are latino ppl in europe but ask an actual spaniard or frenchman if they consider themselves latino

[sleek parrot]

do you use legendary or windsinger gem

[velvet obsidian]

Isn't rag a CA/SA server? I would think that would give some ping when playing with NA. I always figured it was the same sort of reason why OCE players don't want to group with NA players.

[winter shoal]

I always thought NA Sargeras was latin america as well, maybe I'm just cooked

[warm crag]

sim it but most ppl moved on to windsinger i believe

[sullen dove]

[grave sky]

Chile plays with 150ms~

[winter shoal]

windsinger

[sleek parrot]

alright, tnx

[marble schooner]

yeah chile is 150-200ms, argentina 170-220ms from what ive seen from guildies

thank god Im from the caribbeans so I play at 65-70ms

Ill just swap servers to some obscure server like Altar of Storms or smth

ppl will assume im some midwestern white redneck or smth

and when I get into groups ill just say "howdy"

[edgy widget]

windsinger at lower gear, skipper in higher

[coarse nest]

Lmfao

[grave sky]

Kek

[signal locust]

White, Midwestern people are awesome maybe you should meet some

[gilded pawn]

I’m fairly sure servers like rag is still hosted on NA

Just like Texas and stuff

[wispy laurel]

We really need some aoe buff

What buffs will be possible?

Fury

We so behind on mythic plus aoe

30M DK while fury 9M

[manic gulch]

they could increase the cap on our big cds

[wispy laurel]

Not fair

[manic gulch]

the 5 cap on whirlwind is never going away

because of the way aoe works on fury

[gilded pawn]

It could be 8 capped

Like outlaw

[modest condor]

50% buff to tblast/clap

[wispy laurel]

Good idea

[modest condor]

sorry, 51% buff

[manic gulch]

but roar, ody's, ravager and bladestorm could been uncapped

[wispy laurel]

How can we make ticket or word for bliz dev

[manic gulch]

since they are mid-big cds

[wispy laurel]

We need aoe!!!

[hardy shuttle]

I unironically would be okay with them making meat cleaver do 80% damage to the cleaved adds or something. Just make us fuck up 5t if we are the only hard capped 5t class

[manic gulch]

but blizz hates warrior so no changes

[wispy laurel]

Even dragon roar 5target domnit

We need 8 tar cap

[manic gulch]

class has virtually no utility and only does dmg so it should have the highest dmg from all the other classes in the game to be balanced

meanwhile mage has all utility, all defenses, all dmg and even cheat death

[wispy laurel]

Archimtiros- we need aoe dmg buff! XD somehow call dev

20M 30M dps vs fury 10 or 9 8N

Not fair

[edgy widget]

life isn't fair, better get used to it

[simple shell]

is full ST better for cauldron? and not prepop avatar with 10s left of pull timer? for mythic

[prime summit]

If you play fury on cauldron you’re trolling

[warm crag]

if you want to optimize for damage you should go arms

its certainly not trolling

you should just send ava on pull if you're fury its not worth the prepopping as it is for arms

[simple shell]

okok ty

[earnest canyon]

I play fury cos I hate arms

[velvet obsidian]

Based. Two weapons better than one, make for more smash

[queen linden]

Am I the only one that is not enjoying fury in keys atm? Feel like I'm swinging wet noodles around compared to every other class

Surely we get some love in the .5 patch

[dense elbow]

Turn off damage meter, turn it back on at the end of the key

[warm crag]

@bitter palm consider this guys discord handle

[winter shoal]

Me when I top dam as fury 🤔

[tepid cedar]

take the wins baby!!!!

\we take thoseeeee

[winter shoal]

(my guild is just bad)

[warm crag]

ad hominem

try again

[covert topaz]

is there a way to sim if a trinket's better than eye of kezan for m+?

[warm crag]

i can tell you it probably is unless its like an abyssal trap from s1

[coarse nest]

Eye struggles in M+ because you lose stacks constantly between pulls

[winter shoal]

Not sure if you mean me using my n=1 as a counter argument against arms on caulron, me saying my guild is bad, or just shitposting

But I agree on all of those

[covert topaz]

oh so just about any trinket's better than eye at the same ilvl for m+?

[calm spindle]

why does charge suddenly decide to kill half your raid on sprocketmonger intermission 1?

when it never did that till now

[oblique trail]

It's because you have to wait until he completely stops moving, otherwise the game hasn't fully updated his position yet

In this case, the game (to my knowledge) tries to predict the mobs movement, and places you further

At least it's the only logic I see to his happening, but it does happen on Mugzee as well during his intermission charge

[frank jolt]

I came back to warrior for this season after 4 seasons of ret. Warr has been my main for liek 12-14 years before but idk guys, current iteration feels a bit like a wet sponge, in m+ at least. Thane for me is a bit sluggish, and Slayer jsut isn't doing the numbers in overall. IDK, it feels weird, I might be doing something wrong tho. Am I alone feeling this way?

[calm spindle]

would make sense, its just weird how it never happened in 2-3 weeks then happens 3 times in 3 pulls

[calm spindle]

youre not wrong, press N go arms have fun doing damage in keys

[winter shoal]

Best options are either:

1. Stand between boss and gate, get knocked and use gateway control shard while you're already in the air, or
2. Get knocked and leap to where boss is going

Correct?

[calm spindle]

im talking about the mythic strat where you're far form him and need to gate->use movement

movement has always been charge for me up until now, cause it didnt cause issues

[oblique trail]

More or less

But I just lept towards the end instead of using gate

Since it minimised me accidentally taking the gate too early or missing it

[edgy widget]

leap works quite well since you can pre-aim it, but yeah gateway control shard has a very forgiving range, so if you position yourself in a way that you'll get knocked through the gate, you'll have plenty of time to hit it

a lot of people say "watch the cast bar and hit exactly on 0" which is terrible advice - just let the knockback happen and hit your shard as soon as your char starts moving

[edgy widget]

you can leap practically on top of him (though not a great idea as demon hunters like to dash around into the boss and may cause a collision); if you have to use Charge, just make sure it's well after the boss has stopped its own movement

charging through the boss has happened to me maybe one time in upwards 100 pulls

[random raptor]

anyone else having fun?

[trim maple]

does my Authority of the Depths enchant do less damage if it is on my off hand weapon?

[dense elbow]

13-16 range makes me question things

[edgy widget]

no

[tepid cedar]

playing key simulator?!??!

[trim maple]

ty! Google was feeding me ludicrously conflicting information but i assume it was just the AI seeing the word "off hand" and "wow damage"

[coarse nest]

I’ve been saying it as soon as you hit all 13s and need to climb

Rip bozo

[random raptor]

this lol

[coarse nest]

Non meta noober

Find a team

[edgy widget]

probably, yeah - your own offhand damage is halved, but that doesn't apply to outside sources of damage

[coarse nest]

It’ll always be this way friend

[plush zephyr]

Play Arms

[plush zephyr]

I’ve never experienced this because I run my own keys. This is insane lmaooo

[random raptor]

Running my own key never seems to work out, maybe its my inexperience of putting together groups

[untold elbow]

anyone else here using quazii ui?

[next ruin]

any tips on how to be less self conscious about frenzy in key, driving me nutz

[warm crag]

press n and click this button

ideally aim under the button that says "arms" but protection is fine too

[winter shoal]

Why are you target swapping as fury in keys

[warm crag]

(maintarget a guy if you want to maintain frenzy idk what else you want)

[winter shoal]

Your job is to omega pump the lieutenants while other classes pad on shitters

If you're not doing that you might as well play arms

[next ruin]

tank is gathering, starting hitting the random ass mobs

[random raptor]

Heavily modified but yes

[next ruin]

then its gathered and i finally can hit the prio

[warm crag]

build up frenzy on the lieutenant then

or dont rampage lol

[next ruin]

sometimes you have downtime, getting out of aoe and wanna keep pumping

[winter shoal]

Going whole hog while tank is still gathering sounds like a moderately bad idea anyways

[warm crag]

then drop frenzy

theres no magic trick lol

[untold elbow]

did you manage to make it so that thunderclaps icon changes to thunderblast when its up

on the spell tracker aura thing

[wooden scarab]

This might sound dumb but ive been playing Warrior for about a year and im still confused on when to hit rampage and bloodthirst. Do i hit rampage whenever it comes up or do i use all raging blow procs then hit rampage. same thing with bloodthirst.?

[coarse nest]

All based on conditionals mentioned in the priority list on wowhead

[tight roost]

worth taking intimidating shout on vexie to interrupt mechanics, or just kill?

[random raptor]

oh I'm just using bars, didn't really like the spell aura so I can't really help there sorry mate haha

[untold elbow]

its the only thing that annoys me lol, the thunderclap icon doesnt change

[coarse nest]

Does it atleast glow??

[untold elbow]

nope

[coarse nest]

Man quazzi slackin a little

Can’t hate though guy does giga work for free

[earnest canyon]

Idk what wa you are using but luxthos does all that

[random raptor]

brew rate my UI @coarse nest

[wooden scarab]

Im also having trouble on some bosses in heroic raid like one armed and sprocket. Im trying to sustain above 2 million but Im having a hard time sustaining without cooldowns. Plus switching to the adds and not being able to hit boss at the same time I think is killing my parse.

[tepid cedar]

wthe guy from spell reflect WA lol

shit is giga bugged

[coarse nest]

Respectfully 0 since I use NaowhUI and am a big fan of it

[random raptor]

[coarse nest]

But nah all that matters in a ui is you can reliably see all the necessary info without much effort

[winter shoal]

Just kill, let other people cc 🙂

[earnest canyon]

Me zug zug. But we do have like 3 interrupts /stuns with the recommended thane build

[marble pilot]

Shockwave is good enough

[tepid cedar]

really wish SB was of gcd though

[coarse nest]

It would be turbo cringe if it was because you’d have to send it on cd for the damage

Unless they removed its damage at the same time

[marble pilot]

I get the complaints but I like doing mechanics. 1 gcd for 3 stuns isnt bad.
Imo with leap/charge back we are the best or close to the best melee dps to deal with stuff. Not that im leaving the boss on Vexie to get a stun off.

[coarse nest]

Bro you are a warrior

Do the Zug Zug

[plush zephyr]

Yeah I get that. But really what I did in DF when I really started m+ was asking tanks what they would want.

Then it became pretty easy to know what to comp with after awhile

I still like asking tanks what they would like though

Some have different requests on different dungeons

Also can remind you to get lust if you forget/don’t know who has it

[marble pilot]

Nah iron giant vibes. I see a bomb that needs popped/soaked i jump on that shit so fast. I go you stay no following.

[plush zephyr]

I find it way more peaceful running my own key. Chill vibes 👌

[plush zephyr]

Topping the interrupt meter is what I try to achieve every dungeon

[marble pilot]

Ah yeah. Zug Zug means no casters get to talk. Only smacking happens around here

[earnest canyon]

As long as I'm not bottom I'm happy

[plush zephyr]

I can’t say the same

Wait

[marble pilot]

Im still learning m+ but had +9 floodgate run with a guildie where he had top as prot pally, I was second as fury. And none of the other 3 had a single one.

[plush zephyr]

loool

I mean

With rets and fury, sometimes you can’t even interrupt because they are getting them all

I was just in a 8 dfc with a dk/I was arms/and ret and literally I think one or two spells went off the entire dungeon

Was beautiful

Same thing we had all the interrupts

Would recommend communicating a bit with your dks/rets about interrupts so you aren’t overlapping

Not a full discussion but it’s nice to know who’s getting first or if the dk is going to group X, and who will do a mass interrupt/stun first

[modest condor]

prot paladins just kinda interrupt everything

[plush zephyr]

True

[winter shoal]

ppal + sin rogue with iron wire HOLY

mobs never cast

low key cheat code

as in a cheat code for low keys

[plush zephyr]

I was seeing a fire mage interrupting everything last night

I added them

[bitter palm]

ye iron wire

[modest condor]

it's funny i used to push with a prot paladin and when he swapped to prot warrior suddenly we were having trouble with casts going off because that was just never an issue when he was playing pally

[bitter palm]

goes very hard

[plush zephyr]

YOU INTERRUPTED IN BUST?? added

[winter shoal]

Fire mages in my pugs seem to not do any damage or mechanics

Just kinda stand there and sometimes die

[plush zephyr]

Well that one did

And I love them

[bitter palm]

idk pwar

astronomically mid

in pack control

[winter shoal]

I mean when everything is instant cast it's not like they lose anything from kicking

[bitter palm]

interrupting shout is what

90s?

[modest condor]

remember when kick was a dps gain for mages

[plush zephyr]

Still

[modest condor]

something with memory of lucid dreams

[plush zephyr]

I wouldn’t lmao

Not when the party is already picking them up, they just did it, just cause.

They’re a true gamer

[bitter palm]

what does fire mage play even

flamestrike or

[sour frigate]

they play tank dps from my exp

[winter shoal]

Go back to bed grandpa

[bitter palm]

shit players

[sour frigate]

3200 mage i pick

goes 2.4kk

[bitter palm]

fire is good

[sour frigate]

[modest condor]

bruh that was only 5 years ago

[bitter palm]

👴

[modest condor]

ok zoomer

[coarse nest]

[winter shoal]

Flamestrike on like 5+ targets I think, or just go full pyro prio dam if your group is omega padders

[plush zephyr]

They were actually running SF bomba build

[winter shoal]

I didn't play then = boomer take + bad game

[bitter palm]

if u play prio/st

u just select prio

[modest condor]

understandable

[plush zephyr]

Usually see ff build

[coarse nest]

I started having to give my hand breaks does that mean I’m in boomer era now!

[bitter palm]

ye i wouldnt play ignite in pugs

like st/prio

in pugs

never

[winter shoal]

I think 95% of the mages in my keys are UI SF flamestrike build

[bitter palm]

its like playing fury in pugs for prio damage

[winter shoal]

And they all stink

[sour frigate]

fury at least will pump damage

[winter shoal]

I do this sometimes

[bitter palm]

i play fury sometimes cause i get bored of arms

but arms is objectively better this season

[plush zephyr]

In m+ absolutely

[winter shoal]

In most cases yeah

Fury kinda cranks in TOP tho

[plush zephyr]

Though I just fucking pumped as fury on dfc

[bitter palm]

so does arms

[winter shoal]

Cone did you try that super overcooked TOP arms build btw

With no rend

[bitter palm]

play longsweep blademaster

yeah in a 14 was going well but we depleted

[plush zephyr]

Cleave is just too good

[bitter palm]

has potential

[sour frigate]

still beaten by ench ret ww dk and so on...

[bitter palm]

fatality is useless tho

dont play it

play 2x critical thinking

u need the ct

i was starving bad

[winter shoal]

I'd rather brain off fury tbh but go off king

[bitter palm]

i mean

[plush zephyr]

I really think they’re interchangeable on how you play/dungeon

[bitter palm]

regular build with longsweep and blademaster

gaps fury in that dungeon

both on speed and overall

@radiant plank

[winter shoal]

In overall for sure, but overall only matters so much esp in a dungeon like top

[bitter palm]

walhe played it in high keys

night fae arms

in top

...

built different spec

same talents raid and m+ and u were like top 3 st in the game

[coarse nest]

Got absolutely gapped by a MM in 13 top a few days ago

[winter shoal]

As in the overcooked one you player or just swap those two talents

[sour frigate]

necrolord arms with 50k crits...

[coarse nest]

By like 300k too

[sour frigate]

[coarse nest]

Guy was an animal

[bitter palm]

those 2

[warm crag]

was #1 no

[bitter palm]

behind assa and boomie no

[winter shoal]

Does blademasters still only do the extend if you SS first

[bitter palm]

but fight design favored arms a lot

[warm crag]

they werent played on prog

so arms was #1

[bitter palm]

oh so arms was #1

king spec

[warm crag]

its too easy to gaslight you

[bitter palm]

works either way now

[warm crag]

appeal to nature fallacy

[winter shoal]

oh poggies

[bitter palm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1170378356588552214/1356783118308212896/attachment.gif

[warm crag]

woke creature

[bitter palm]

woke..

[sour frigate]

bing chillin

[bitter palm]

op spec i promise u

[sour frigate]

pls no

[bitter palm]

diabolical prio and st

but noobs play it

its like fury but has good aoe

[winter shoal]

SV bis single target YEP

Logs don't like (real)

[bitter palm]

(spec wasnt bugged or anything)

[bitter palm]

idk why people dont play it

ig its easier to just play bm or mm

[coarse nest]

Extra melee

[winter shoal]

Hunter is cracked wtf

[bitter palm]

ye

[gleaming siren]

Maybe

we need a tier where BM isn't good again

Has been 3 tiers in a row now maybe it's joeve

[coarse nest]

Hunters in shambles when the 3 button spec isn’t blasting

[lyric compass]

So im following the rotation, however logs show people are pressing bloodthirst way more on Stix. is bloodthirst over rb in big aoe?

[winter shoal]

6+ targets

But tbh the difference in 2-5 targets is very minor so like just send it bud

[lyric compass]

ah okay. thank you

[broken kite]

In 1 armed armed bandit people are runing mountain thane what u guys thing

[edgy widget]

really depends on how much add vs boss damage you need

[merry pewter]

quick question for yall who use the bloodthrist wa, do you guys only hit it when it glows or at a certain percentage?

[edgy widget]

it glows at a certain percentage

[winter shoal]

For hc slayer, for mythic it'll depend a lot on your raid comp and where you need to be allocating your damage most

[merry pewter]

is it optimal to only hit it when it glows then?

[winter shoal]

I think Mythic OAB is either colossus or thane fight most likely, you could maybe play slarms but probably not slurry

[edgy widget]

yes, that's the entire point of it

[merry pewter]

ty ty

[summer crater]

They have shit aoe now

Really good prio damage but really bad aoe

[edgy widget]

its melee

[fickle cedar]

survival never got a decent playerbase post change, i did like it when it was ranged tho

[bitter palm]

makes sense when bm is just always godo

good*

and is ranged without any of the downsides of ranged

[earnest canyon]

Don't they just spam wildfire bb?

Bomb

[bitter palm]

no

u mongoose

i think

i know its insane prio and st

[earnest canyon]

Oh ok

[summer crater]

I mean either way it's really more that both BM and MM are just way way better aoe

[bitter palm]

and infinitely less effort

cause ranged in m+

[summer crater]

While BM also has good ST (bad prio though) and MM also has really good prio but meh ST