fury

[elfin belfry]

I only get annoyed when people pronounce his name that way as if it's his full name. Even in videos and streams it feels like I want to tell them to never do that again

[quiet yew]

its so hard to choose

i think i need a drink

[thin cliff]

it'd feel more satisfying if we weren't target hard-capped, but it feels great to me. Good pace, smooth, flexible, great priority damage.

[regal sonnet]

New to fury here, is there an easier way to track your enrage uptime besides peeking at your buffs which are usually cluttered?

[thin cliff]

https://wago.io/bLtAx-IXT

[regal sonnet]

Goated ty!!

[thick fossil]

I like the luxthos resource bars for that.

It tracks rage, enrage time, and whirlwind buff. All in a nice compact group.

Most of the rest of it though gets deleted.

[earnest canyon]

same, i just use his stuff on all classes, i should probably donate

[iron portal]

Prob

[glad plover]

Is fury that much worse than Arms on Mug Zee and One armed bandit?

[fading sky]

This is all that matters

[fading sky]

Mythic or hc

[glad plover]

Mythic

[thick fossil]

No, both are good.

[next ruin]

Might be a dumb question: if you are playing a full st build on cleave boss (because adds die too fast) do you still hold bladestorm or roar for add phases? Or accept to go for maximum boss damage and send cd's on cd? (it depends I guess?)

[serene oasis]

I would say it depends on when adds are spawning, like if it's within like 10 seconds of your cds, holding is ok because you'll get a little use from your damage on the adds, other than that, just send them.

[sour spindle]

yo i have a question, i crafted 2hand with ascendance since i didnt got myth track 2hand so what embelishment should i craft now since 3rd spark is up?

[serene oasis]

I don't remember what it's called, but bracers/cloak or any non tier armor slot with the effect that doubles ascendance effect.

writhing armor band maybe?

[sour spindle]

yea i know which one thank you

[forest owl]

is uhdk capped like fury? cant remember what they are

[next ruin]

Opposite

[tired root]

does anyone expect some fury buffs since it feels like uber shit in m+ atm

[forest owl]

explains this maybe, also getting pi never gonna win against that

[serene oasis]

doubtful on the buffs, but fury isn't bad, it just isn't great with the hard target cap. It'll also depend on your group comp. If stuff is living longer than it should then you numbers will suffer.

[next ruin]

Very low hunter

[tired root]

i see, but idk man in 13 compared to arms just feel so weak, not talking about other specs in game how awful feels compared to

[earnest canyon]

You should say at the end "AT LEAST WARRIOR WAS IN RWF!!"

[forest owl]

dunno what the hunter was about, me and him had link on swamp boss floodgate and then he just started running in circles, dodging nothing and kills us both with beam

[thick fossil]

What fight are we talking?

[serene oasis]

hunter brain

[next ruin]

General topic, but could apply to vexxie, cauldron to some extent, oab and gallywix I'd say

I feel like rik line up is too good not to do it

[thick fossil]

Cauldron, might as well go single target.
Vexxie, you can go multi target for mythic. All the adds need to die or get stunned via Shockwave.

Gallywix for sure multi target.

[rare garnet]

Speaking of rik… is there tech for the add spawns. Sometimes they spawn in the tightest bundle under the boss and I’m so glad I saved bladestorm. Sometimes they spawn literally all over the place and I’m beating myself for saving bladestorm

[tepid cedar]

https://mythicstats.com/dps

hell yes burrrrrrrrrothhherrrsss we are better than Aug!!!!

[stone merlin]

Why did I just learn about Death Wish. Literal best ability in the game I’m sad it’s only a PvP talent. As a Dracthyr who regens health out of combat the ability is fugging awesome

[gilded pawn]

Turns out you can only die in combat

[clever belfry]

false

[oblique trail]

No, it's basically purely RNG

[unreal onyx]

Just fall to your death

[gilded pawn]

I hope they bring death wish

So we can top the death meters

[oblique trail]

noob

[gilded pawn]

You realize every warrior has 2nd wind

[rare garnet]

Only a matter of time before we hit Aug tier.

[red berry]

buff thunder blast. 10% damage and 8 targets. please

[rare garnet]

It’s always interesting to me the thought that goes behind balancing all classes to have similar single target damage and then throwing shit at the wall to see which ones you’re allowing to AOE.

[earnest canyon]

ST isnt really that balanced either

[tepid cedar]

Anyone here a dracthyr fury. I have been a void elf for god knows how long but dracthyr sounds fun

[rare garnet]

I would say ST is infinitely closer together than the AOE gap. 2,3M v 2,1M is nothing compared to 6M v 17M

[oblique trail]

I was Dracthyr for months until a week ago

Glide is an underrated QoL

[earnest canyon]

oh on massive pulls for sure

[tepid cedar]

if u use the himan foirm do u get the benfits from out fo comabr?

[next ruin]

What made you switch

[fading sky]

Dragon good

Y get to fly

[tepid cedar]

im not a fan of the dragon form and the way armor mogs so would probably use human form

[oblique trail]

Yes

You just press visage and stay perma in human form

Both in and out of combat

[oblique trail]

Mugzee

Forced to change

[tepid cedar]

ah nice

[fading sky]

To?

[oblique trail]

Velf

[fading sky]

Portal elf

Sad

[oblique trail]

shrug

I didn't pay for it

[fading sky]

What

Who did

[tepid cedar]

velf is so good. been one for god knows how long

[oblique trail]

Guild paid for the swap

[tepid cedar]

and the moggins is amazing.

i wish the telport skil was better though even after the change theres really no use it

[fading sky]

Mugzhee

Does

[tepid cedar]

however rasgapeth tier it was huge for CE lol

[rare garnet]

Velf with the 1800 pvp set this season is so sexy. First time leaving orc behind but I look sick.

[tepid cedar]

what im rolling with

[rare garnet]

I love the black goblin set this tier though

[thorny oar]

Hello I'm playing fury with Best in Slot and 2 passiv trinket , I would like to know what is best timing for use your BiS CD's , do I have to use it on CD with recklessness or always be use with Avatar ?

[oblique thistle]

Send CDs on CD

[tepid cedar]

if u send it on cd, everysthing should be close to lining up on the 3rd rotation

[thorny oar]

ok ty

[tepid cedar]

but for good measure just pair it with avatar

[stone merlin]

Wowhead says that’s only for arms?

[stone merlin]

Yes. Me

[fiery flame]

is it possible to macro mister lock and stalk like the anvil trinket ?

[gilded pawn]

Check your talent page

[gilded pawn]

No reason to macro it

[fiery flame]

the active is not good?

[gilded pawn]

Read what the active does

[fiery flame]

recalibrate for a mass destruction

[gilded pawn]

It just toggles between two modes

[rare garnet]

This whole toggle thing with lock and stock and BiS… not a fan

[thick fossil]

Completely random. The tank can keep em close to the wall to help, but it's still RnG.

[fiery flame]

oh i see now, wasnt aware of that lol

[gleaming siren]

If you have a proper macro you can never accidentally stance swap your BiS 🤷‍♂️

[lament plinth]

Can anyone help me understand our rotation?
My understanding was that our biggest prio was not over capping by using rampage while >100 rage.
But some lists prioritize BT (at 85% crit) and RB in order to send rampage with 3+ SS stacks.
Is there ever a time when I should be over capping on fury to build SS stacks outside of brutal finish?

[gilded pawn]

Sounding like a skill issue

[clever belfry]

[combussy]

[tepid cedar]

do u have the blazing shadowflame cinder toy

pop it on, would look dope with that mog set

[fiery flame]

anyone able to check one log ? my guildie is pressing like a lot more rb than me lol

[next shale]

Maybe becuase he is spamming rb after bladestorm

That’s usually what it is

[fiery flame]

75 x 117 casts

and 10k dps diff

[gilded pawn]

More haste luckier resets

Who knows

[clever path]

how impactful are racials in the grand scheme? like currently my highest simming race is void elf, about 30k dps over what i am right now

Worth worrying about?

[gilded pawn]

Not really

Not worth 40 dollars

[coarse nest]

Until you miss a timer by .01 seconds

[stone merlin]

For min maxing yes definitely. Otherwise I think everyone agrees to just go with what you want

It feels nice to have a race that goes well with your spec but I’d rather have the race I like more visually

[meager gyro]

ok I played my UDK yesterday and I do same overall dmg as my fury at 15 less ilvl both 4 set. looks like if I'm aiming for my highest io season, I'm sticking to UDK

[hybrid dagger]

Is there any reasonable way to get the delve trinket besides just praying it’s in the box every week?

[tardy lark]

why would you not play warrior?

[broken kite]

when do we get rid of cyrce circlet ?

[earnest canyon]

2-27

2027

[remote bobcat]

when robot says other ring performs better

[broken kite]

is there other rings that perform better this tier ?

[remote bobcat]

yes

it just depends on your gear

run a sim of different rings and just see what comes out on top

[rare garnet]

“Maybe”

[slender quail]

Which trinket are people prefering with recent buffs, mister-lock-n-stalk or house of cards?

[rare garnet]

Whatever I currently have that sims the most

[dry talon]

on thane aoe build ,after charge reck+ava+ravager.shouldnt i have enough rage to rampage??

[modest condor]

not if you use reck and avatar after charge

[meager gyro]

I could go prot and at least push my woyer that way

[torpid elbow]

as soon as you use reck and avatar ofc you charge you you'll have full regen of rage i would ragging blow 2x rampage bt , TC, roar so your roar hits additional enemies from having TC Passive from WW

[azure tulip]

What sort of timing is cauldron pre-avatar?

[clever belfry]

10s

[azure tulip]

Bet

[winter shoal]

I'm 99% sure this is bait

If you lust on pull you're down horrendous

[dry talon]

ty

[dry talon]

ty

[torpid elbow]

yeah man even slayer is easy too man i love they make use of execute more now then only just on arms

[warm crag]

Do top logs pre Avatar?

[clever belfry]

real answer: play arms

[warm crag]

Ok who tf plays fury on cauldron

Download a png of ball and print it out

[clever belfry]

arms parses more of a toss up

[warm crag]

Ravager

177330

[clever belfry]

rav goat

[gleaming siren]

Rav Spear

177330

[clever belfry]

spear is 177300 for sure

[subtle knoll]

frenzied or powerful enrage? I cant quite figure out which is better for m+

im at 25% haste unbuffed

[coarse nest]

Surely these guys cast avatar at the 10 second pull timer

[remote bobcat]

powerful almost certainly performs better in m+ but you do you, try simming single target and multi target situations

[twilit harbor]

How can I check multiple action logs at once on WCL?

Have i been missing a basic function for years?

[coarse nest]

The screenshot you’re seeing above is lorrgs

[twilit harbor]

Amazing, thanks @coarse nest

[coarse nest]

Np!

[subtle knoll]

ok, will see what that turns up. I feel like the haste gives me way more rampages which translate more reck/rav , my overall ends up being so close each time, maybe im playing one wrong idk

ty for reply

[clever belfry]

the ones sending before 1:30 for sure 👍

[gusty cloak]

is there a WA we use to track winstreak?

[clever belfry]

you dont track that

[warm crag]

It doesnt affect your Rotation

You can make one if you want

[empty lintel]

Hey, returning player here! I'm sorry if this has been asked before, I haven't really found an answer yet looking through the disc (i probably haven't looked hard enough lol)

With Avatar desyncing from Reck when running AM, do we just pop avatar every time it comes up off cd now? Or would we rather pair it with something like bladestorm

[oblique trail]

You do just pop Avatar on CD yes, assuming you wouldn't hold it for something specific

Reason being is that you not only get Avatar, you also get Recklessness on top of that, which in turn helps with Reck and BS CDR

[eager mulch]

I thought we only use ava with reck

[remote bobcat]

love the pfp changeup banezi

[remote bobcat]

HUH

[oblique trail]

We don't because of this talent

[empty lintel]

gotcha!

coming back to playing fury warrior after like a 3 expansion break from it so I'm trying to learn all that I can lol

[fast zealot]

Would you guys recommend not macroing reck + avatar in same macro?

[eager mulch]

Not arguing just trying to understand-
If this is the case, then why is it not worth holding avat until that 8 sec can carry into an actual recklessness? Wouldnt part of the dmg buff from ava be wasted without reck active for the remaining 12sec?

[oblique trail]

They extend each others duration, not replace

[clever belfry]

@oblique trail bameowzi

[remote bobcat]

it works but no dont do it preferably

[oblique trail]

But you wouldn't hold no, because Reck is always going to get CDR from AM, and you want to maximise AM efficiency when necessary

[remote bobcat]

we already have no buttons to press

[oblique trail]

One small moment of downtime from not having Avatar really won't make a difference, if you were to Reck then Avatar 10 sec later

[fast zealot]

3 buttons is way too much

[oblique trail]

Our damage right now is very flat, so our 1:30 window isn't particularly bursty as it was in the past (even just 1 season ago)

@clever belfry andameowzi

[eager mulch]

So is the wowhead rotation page out of date now then?

[remote bobcat]

no?

you misread it my friend

[gusty fern]

ah hello mr rank 1 warrior 😄

good to see you here

[remote bobcat]

who are u

[oblique trail]

The "simultaneously with Recklessness" is likely tied to your opener if anything, and outside of that you wont think about it

[remote bobcat]

i ended rank 2

not rank 1

and it was only heroic

from boosting

[gusty fern]

🤣

[oblique trail]

But as a rule of thumb, unless you specifically hold your CDs for something, you just use CDs on CD

[eager mulch]

So unless saving cds for something specific-
Ava with reck for opener but I can use ava and reck and dragon road liberally without worrying about lining them up?

Ok

[remote bobcat]

no but actually tho do i know u homie?

[oblique trail]

Unless you're using Uproar, Ava and Roar will always be aligned

But basically yes

Avatar and Reck will occasionally realign naturally, or Reck being either ready 10~ sec before or after Avatar, assuming you have constant uptime

[gusty fern]

u were teaching me how to play fury on boss 1 hc
and it was becuz you are rank 1 warrior and u had the right to do it 🤣 😂 🫡

[oblique trail]

There is a line in the APL that makes it hold BS if your Reck is ready within 24 seconds, though in practice I haven't looked to see how much this matters

[remote bobcat]

i coached a lot of warriors idk

[oblique trail]

BS CDR is pretty finicky since you can either have mediocre or really good CDR depending on your Slayer's Strike

[gusty fern]

wow there is a lot

[lean hamlet]

any idea what our bis trinkets are now? got a juicy vault but unsure

[dense elbow]

Time for you to namechange, to R1KronzoWarriorCoach

[gusty fern]

thanks mister

[remote bobcat]

nah, i didnt end rank 1 after all

[gusty fern]

fr 🧑🏻‍🦼‍➡️

[dense elbow]

R1 in my heart

♥

[remote bobcat]

got stolen by kongskandikk

that rat

:P

[fast zealot]

@remote bobcat When do i press BT? at what WA %? sometime it just jumps from like 60% to 90%+ because of the set

[remote bobcat]

85%

in pure ST

or in vicious contempt range

[fast zealot]

on CD in vicious contempt?

[remote bobcat]

its prio'd over raging blow in VC range

[dense elbow]

But what if my nose is itchy, and I might not react to the change to 85%+ in time?

[remote bobcat]

boohoo 0.01% optimization mistake how dare u

[tepid cedar]

there is this occurence as well

[dense elbow]

lost cause, better wipe, go again

[tepid cedar]

which i dont think apl is fully min maxed

[oblique trail]

What part of it

[tepid cedar]

in no world, would i nmot jsut hold

roar 5 seconds

to cast after reck

[oblique trail]

It's 1:33

It used Avatar right above the roar

[tepid cedar]

sooo

thats a bad example

[oblique trail]

Which means you'll have Reck running

[tepid cedar]

i ened fto find it

but ive seen it cast, b4 reck

and no avat in sim

[oblique trail]

Whichever way, Roar itself does very pitiful damage unless you're in mass AoE

[tepid cedar]

yea. but this was also early on when i noticed it

[remote bobcat]

^

[oblique trail]

So it's in fact typically better to just use it before CDs, to get more globals during your CDs

[radiant knot]

I see your every move

[oblique trail]

not like it matters a whole lot in the end, since using Roar inside or before CDs will be a borderline miniscule optimisation if anything

Most important thing really is just sending it

[tepid cedar]

yea

[remote bobcat]

isnt roar just barely better than clicking raging blow in pure ST?

[tepid cedar]

i usually do the 10 sec rule tbh

[gilded pawn]

Also on that clip it could very well be that reck was still on cd

[tepid cedar]

if reck is 10 sec or less il hold it

[gilded pawn]

Vibe based gaming

[oblique trail]

I tend to hold BS if Avatar is ready within 8-10 sec, and no Reck is running, which happened a fair amount of times during Sprocketmonger prog

Outside of that I simply just press buttons

[tepid cedar]

lol that is the only benefit of our st

i jsut remember 25 sec, SENDDD IT

23 hold it

lol

[tepid cedar]

hahahahaha

u see nothinggg

[quiet breach]

if 2 warriors use rallying at the same time do u get double the effect?

[low folio]

dont think so

[eager mulch]

So we roar as long as enraged outside of cds unless our cds are up in 10ish sec?

[quiet breach]

anyone know the answer to this for sure?

[oblique trail]

They overlap each other, so you only get benefit from 1

[vague sail]

^

[quiet breach]

thx

[fading sky]

Tripple rally

Kek would be awesome

[quiet breach]

20x rally

[low folio]

imagine if you could do that and then back in corruption season, a tank just procs 2 twilight devestations and deletes everything

[vague sail]

wild raid that has 20x warriors

[quiet breach]

classic moment

[vague sail]

true that

wasnt saying a bad move

lets get it going

[polar fulcrum]

game dead?

[fading sky]

Smells like game is awesome

[sinful glen]

should we still put loot spec on arms for vault or is the two hand thingy fixed?

[plucky ice]

always

[low folio]

as long as smf is available for fury they will have one handers in the fury loot table

[sinful glen]

too bad it gave a dogshit tier vault 😛

[low folio]

well the bloodoath signet is good for arms if you ever play that

[vague sail]

big red button

always

[low folio]

that thing doesnt do damage

[sinful glen]

it blows and is on a 2min CD

[vague sail]

when you push the red button it does though

[low folio]

i mean its better than no trinket at all but its definitely not very good

[fading sky]

Big red, big red bus(tton)

[bitter palm]

arms

[vague sail]

secret macro for the trinket?!

[bitter palm]

arm

my goat

[fading sky]

Ye twice the power if u sing the song

https://tenor.com/view/red-london-bus-my-beloved-heart-locket-red-london-bus-red-london-bus-my-beloved-london-bus-heart-locket-red-bus-heart-locket-gif-25407460

[vague sail]

swifty warriors tricks 69?!

[vague sail]

big ups, big red

[eager mulch]

Arms is going ham on cauldron from 2 target cleave during their clashes right? (Looking at logs atm)

I see a lot of fury outside of that fight and bejunker

[fading sky]

Y

[eager mulch]

Ok

[south kayak]

got on DK

[rugged niche]

do I spam bt when boss on 35% over rb ?

[winter shoal]

If the weakaura says to

[quiet breach]

what stats those boots have

[sinful glen]

Crit/vers

[quiet breach]

YIKES

[barren dagger]

do you guys sim your vault upgrades for arms or for fury?

[smoky vale]

arms

but its mostly interchangeable

[rare garnet]

I sim fury cause I exclusively play fury

[barren dagger]

cause you enjoy doing m+ more or?

[scenic nymph]

Heyo here, i dont understand why my wa crit BT highlights even if i'm under 85%, is that because others things are tracked into ?

[thorny cove]

I've reached the 13 key brick wall

[quiet breach]

I sim fury cuz I exclusively play fury

[winter shoal]

When in VC range (target <= 35% health) the crit threshold is lower than 85%

Idr what Archi set the weakaura to but he said everything from like 30%-70% crit was basically the same

[scenic nymph]

So you mean i prefer to trust highlights than crit % ? it does it even if target is above 35 %, basically i dont really understand why is there a crit % on wa if it's not the real crit %

[fading sky]

Same first map

[winter shoal]

I'm not sure I really understand your question, but generally the weakaura glowing means that you should prio BT over RB

It will adjust its glow conditions for the different crit thresholds both inside and outside VC range

[dense elbow]

it gets better when you start hammering your face against 14s Keep on trucking

[scenic nymph]

Okay i get it, thanks for your responses !

[lucid thorn]

I got a hero track one from a bountiful delve

it was magnificent

[sour frigate]

just wait 1.5 and overgear it

[wispy cape]

What trinkets are you guys preferring rn. Trying to convince myself that champion mechano core is not better than heroic reverb despite the sims

[winter shoal]

amp goes crazy

reverb radio is only alright

[wispy cape]

Will have to stick to it and put faith in the sims and Bigbowwl!

[fickle cedar]

pacemaker enjoyers

[wispy cape]

The only m+ trinket I don’t have at heroic track

[rocky hemlock]

why is fury so bad ? all dps in here are 665 this was a 10 priory

[bitter palm]

read my name

[rocky hemlock]

?

[wispy cape]

Spec change to arms

[rocky hemlock]

arms is that much better?

[warm crag]

you're doing a dungeon defined by 20-30+ add pulls as a class that is target capped at 5

[south kayak]

^

[winter shoal]

uhm actually roar and thunder blast are soft capped

[south kayak]

majority of your damage is capped to 5

chatting

[rocky hemlock]

feels bad to not be able to contribute in a mythic plus other than shockwave lol

[winter shoal]

I mean fury is there for prio targets and bosses

If that's not what's bottlenecking you, you should probably play arms

[sour frigate]

not hardcapped by 5 at least

[rocky hemlock]

yeah ur right about prio targets but the issue is not everyone know fury is that way and almost every 10 or higher i do i get a message that says like " doing tank damage in a 10 is wild" or "didnt know we were doing a carry run" sucks blizzard would leave any class liek that

[winter shoal]

I mean this is a pug issue primarily

Pugs are always going to have braindead takes

But also optimizing around the bottlenecks you're going to face in a run isn't really a thing in pugs because you don't know what the other people are going to be doing

I will say though that I absolutely clown on most pugs even as fury in weekly 10s

[rocky hemlock]

so whats my issue then maybe im playing wrongly?

[fading sky]

Same

Ofc if priory and against uh dk thats good

[winter shoal]

Maybe, the biggest things I'd imagine for something like priory as thane would be to prio BT over RB when fighting 6+ mobs and make sure you're positioning well

[fading sky]

He fucks u

[winter shoal]

Which those are technically true in every case as thane but they're even more important in a dungeon with large pulls

[fading sky]

But if some1 say tank dmg

[rocky hemlock]

i was under the idea that bt is allway prio when above 6

i gotcha

[winter shoal]

above 6 targets you mean? Yes

[rocky hemlock]

and if its under 6 the nits rb to 85% bt crit chance?

[winter shoal]

Technically yes

[bitter palm]

ye but thats not the point

[winter shoal]

I think Silm said in practice it's not a big deal to still prio BT > RB in aoe on any target count

[bitter palm]

nice reply discord

for u to play fury over arms u need to have a serious lack of st/prio

fury is not ahead by a lot on both

and arms is ahead by a lot in aoe

[rocky hemlock]

yeah but i have been palying fury for years dont know arms well enough tbh

[bitter palm]

arms is simple

[winter shoal]

Arms very easy

[bitter palm]

cleave>ms>op

on aoe

on st ms>op>slam

[winter shoal]

But also for weekly 10s who fuckin cares

[bitter palm]

also true

[winter shoal]

If your group isn't actively inting then you time the key

[fading sky]

Fury fucks in keys like overall. No

But dmg is good

[modest condor]

sims had it like at most 0.2% behind or something on target counts below 6

[rocky hemlock]

im doing it for weekly 10 becuase im trying to learn to make sure im not messing up rotation.. my lack of damage truely willnot letme pug and time 12s or 13s

[fading sky]

In m+ learn fury enjoy it

[winter shoal]

idk I did a 12 workshop with like 10 deaths and the group averaging like 3m yesterday

almost 2 chested

[modest condor]

tbf 3mil is pretty high in workshop

[rocky hemlock]

then i must be playing fury really wrong

[fading sky]

Fury can slap

[rocky hemlock]

maybe its the secondary stats been trying for cinderbrew neck for about 20 keys now still have not gotten it

im crit heavy like a mofo

[fading sky]

Much pull dependant m8

[modest condor]

secondaries barely matter

[fading sky]

Dont sweat it

[modest condor]

it's like 5% between perfect stats and complete garbage stats

[fading sky]

If u time keys its enough

If u are.great at interrupts and stuns

[rocky hemlock]

so then what it seems is my issue is poor rotational skills

[fading sky]

Wa does solve that? Kachin bt

If not ramp > rb make sure u have ww stacks up

[devout grove]

How should I sim warrior for m+? Regular patchwerk all the way or dungeon slice?

[quiet breach]

is there a way u can get this to show ilvl instead of parse? or some way to just show a list of all the members and their ilvl?

[wind flax]

How come droptimizer counts dps higher for certain items then the dungeon slice sim?

[covert blaze]

tables->damage done

[bitter palm]

hi

[smoky vale]

im unleashed

[covert blaze]

hello conus

[covert blaze]

👀

[coarse nest]

Is camillax an illidan gamer

I feel like I see that name chillin in dorn often

[smoky vale]

yeah

dont you like the guild name

[hybrid dagger]

Arms is better in AOE and ST right now? Major in AOE and minor in ST?

[marble pilot]

I havnt tried arms since like MoP.
I probably should but I just like rampaging.

[winter shoal]

Depends on what you consider aoe

Also depends on gear and player skill for both

[coarse nest]

[winter shoal]

Low sample size but mythic sprocket is the only real single target fight and both specs are basically identical

[unreal onyx]

I'll take it

[winter shoal]

Bro got the Kriegsmeutengebunden

HOLY

[modest condor]

it says bis in the tooltip

[winter shoal]

Silm spitting HOLY

[coarse nest]

BIS

[eager mulch]

Seeing a lot of variance on peoples openers-
Seeing:
Ava+reck>charge>rampage>bladestorm>RBx2>rampage>roar>BT

Reck>charge>rampage>avatar+roar>bladestorm>RBx2>rampage>BT

And some others that look to be fight dependant (like ava pop 10sec to pull to benefit from end and still have to a specific part 2nd use

[gilded pawn]

How can champion track be bis

[eager mulch]

Whats the actual opener for us ST as slayer

[gilded pawn]

German is a lying language

[hybrid dagger]

Sorry, I mean aoe as in M+ - it seems like fury is pretty behind arms?

[winter shoal]

reck charge ava ramp roar bs

[eager mulch]

Then rbx2 (even if rage capping) before the next rampage

Right?

[winter shoal]

Arms does more overall yes (outside of maybe TOP), fury does more prio and boss dam

[winter shoal]

Ehh kinda
Technically you'd RB as many times as possible while maintaining enrage, up to 5 SS stacks
It's like 0.2% or something to do that though

So "kinda" in the sense that yes it's technically correct to overcap rage to stack SS for BF, but it's not always going to be RBx2, and it's a very minor thing regardless

[eager mulch]

So for the opener specifically (and I assume all following reck+bladestorm uses) we ignore ragedumping for a moment to stack ss with rb as much as we can before next rampage?

[winter shoal]

And you still ramp for enrage if your unhinged didn't refresh enrage for you

[smoky vale]

you cant compete

[smoky vale]

this is for everytime you press bs

except on rik

[winter shoal]

Any time after you bladestorm

[eager mulch]

And you only save bs for reck if its a 5sec wait (including AM shortening it)

?

[winter shoal]

APL says 24s before the AM cdr

Which seems like a really long time to me but I didn't write the APL so /shrug

[untold elbow]

Hey guys this might be a common question but in an aoe pull in m+, should you use thunderclap with 0 or 1 stack of WW left?

[winter shoal]

0

[untold elbow]

Bet

[eager mulch]

So save bladestorm for reck and vice versa if the cd on the one youd wait for is 24sec or less?

[modest condor]

clap does surprisingly little damage

[winter shoal]

don't save reck ever

Unless there's gonna be downtime ofc

[chilly fractal]

[modest condor]

blast is strong

clap is not

[untold elbow]

Do you blast with 1 stack left or is it the same idea?

[modest condor]

you do

blast on cd on aoe, clap just to refresh stacks

[eager mulch]

So dont save reck, save bs if reck is sub 24sec cd, use ava on cd (if no mechs/downtime) and use roar with ava on cd as with DT build they have same cd?

[untold elbow]

And blast is still used on CD for single target right?

[modest condor]

no

it's like giga low prio, only above natty bt

[untold elbow]

Shit okay, I thought I read somewhere it bypassed armor or something

[modest condor]

it does but that doesnt matter

something bypassing armor and something else doing 40% more damage and not bypassing armor have the same end result

[untold elbow]

Yea for sure

Thanks!

[winter shoal]

idk what DT means but yes to all of that

[eager mulch]

St is what I meant

My b

This is already gonna make a huge diff- I was following the prio list but also I was doing cd usage like ot was still legion (reck+ava>reck>reck+ava etc)

[winter shoal]

Legion was 10 years ago bud

Lock in

[eager mulch]

Ive been back 2 weeks

Trying

2.5 if you count leveling lol

Been getting lucky though!
Got bestinslots from heroic weekly box last week and heroic Jastor from vault

[hardy shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/tissue-roll-hangging-suicide-funny-gif-22276377

[edgy widget]

this is only true without Meat Cleaver talented btw, and there's currently no situation in which you don't take it

that said, it's not a big difference

cc: @untold elbow

[untold elbow]

Yeah not using it is probably just easier as a general rule lol

[edgy widget]

it's a nice filler, depending on where you are in your rotation

[tepid cedar]

the good thing is.

is that depending on my rotation in 16s.

is that there is no rotation cause we dont get in

🤣

[whole yacht]

truuuuuuuuue

[untold elbow]

Can’t fuck up the rotation if you uninstall the game

[tepid cedar]

should hopeful get resil 15s tonight, will make pushing 16s a tad bit easier

[tepid narwhal]

I had a 16 CB yesterday, tank died first pull so I also got to avoid the rotation entirely as well

[tepid cedar]

🤣

[edgy widget]

jokes on you, I just do weekly 10s and then go enjoy my life

[tepid cedar]

the o other day we tried 15 flood the first time, vdh dide your tyupical pull ( first pull) ands mfr didnt press anything instantly fell ove

then says.... welp GG anbd left.

[whole yacht]

also truuuuuueeeeee

[tepid cedar]

i felt bad for the dude whos key it was

[winter shoal]

dangerous part of not pushing is that by the end of the season, weekly 10s are full of nothing but demons

[tepid cedar]

lol u right u right

assassination is bustedddd

[open prairie]

how do you reach that level as a tank

[tepid narwhal]

See I’m resil 15s, so I got to wait in floodgate for 3 hours helping some friends the other day until we finally got it

[open prairie]

and not remember to press mitigation

[tepid cedar]

i was at my friends house and got on his rogue to show him. hit 19 million on first pull of work

god i wish fury had isoft cap 😦

[open prairie]

crimson tempest isnt capped

at all psure

oh wait it is

barely noticeable though

[edgy widget]

that's ok, I quit doing even those by the time I reach full sockets

[tepid cedar]

legit, i would be happy with cap at 5 and less damage past 5

[edgy widget]

at this rate, I have 2-3 more vaults before I'm done with M+ for the season

[open prairie]

enhance is now softcapped at 6+

[tepid cedar]

how was ur vault archi

[open prairie]

instead of 5

[edgy widget]

terrible

[open prairie]

the worst is probably raiding midcore guild

[tepid cedar]

mine was too. atleast walked away with 678 tier glvoes

[open prairie]

and being in extend hell

then you feel you need key vault

for anything

[tepid cedar]

yea, once i get 678 helm and gloves. i wont give a F about m+ vault anymore. really nothing that stands out

[open prairie]

jastor diamond bigger than any m+ vault already

besides myth chest+legs

[tepid cedar]

lost one 2 weeks ago. pugging it, 2 capital puynishers droped and ring. i rolled 100 and 92 on punishers and a 5 on the ring. LOL

[open prairie]

punisher kind of mid

isnt it

[tepid cedar]

now i have 2 punishers in bank along a jar of tears

yea

[open prairie]

the industrial runoff shit seems super weak

[tepid cedar]

it needs a huge buff

[open prairie]

its just a case of 1>0

[tepid cedar]

shits non exixtant

[bitter palm]

aint even that behind bis for me

but thats st

the moment there are more than 1 mobs

it falls off mega hard

[open prairie]

i find it funny bis is like, bis for any spec that can hold a 2h mace

even casters

[bitter palm]

budget gavel ahh

gavel>bis

[tepid cedar]

rumor has it. wielding the punisher, hard caps us a 1 target since the runoff dmg is so bad

i miss gavel

still got my 311 gavel and jaithys in vault

[open prairie]

i also like how

jastor diamond is very rare

and turbo bis unless your spec hates mastery

for some reason

But I feel most “good” specs like mastery

[bitter palm]

its loss for me as colo arms atm

but thats cause

my gear is cooked

stats wise i imagine

i am dropping way too much crit

[forest fiber]

Anyone got the combat macro for Best in Slots?

so I dont run around with an int weapon

[open prairie]

gavel was funny

[edgy widget]

see I'm already pretty juiced - short of a weapon there's not much left for me too get, and the M+ stuff I could keep farming for (trinkets) are mostly just used for M+

So it's kinda counterintuitive to keep farming M+ vaults in the hope I get a M+ trinket that I would (mostly) only use in M+

[open prairie]

besides it gave me the wrong buff

9/10 times

industrial runoff is just weak but i guess, doesnt account into stat budget

[bitter palm]

correct buff was

peak

when u get the buff u want

hoooly

[tepid cedar]

best weapon combo in my eyes i misss ittt

[bitter palm]

boon of the end for aoe?

and venthyr for st or something

i forgot

im sorry gavel

[open prairie]

nah necro st

psure

[bitter palm]

yeah the rot or w/e

i remember that one being cracked as well

i remember seeing the first hc log with gavel

[open prairie]

boon was kind of balanced iirc

gave you str buff

and frontal cleave

[bitter palm]

end was str buff i think

[modest condor]

str buff and frontal cone

[edgy widget]

Yeah, the cone that didn't hit halondrus btw

[modest condor]

love hitboxes

ancient aftershock randomly missing ticks on unmovable raidbosses btw

[tepid cedar]

lol, the frontal cone was a key buster bro

[bitter palm]

sorry guys

for busting ur keys

chatting

[tepid cedar]

lol u rpoc forntal + str no tank could keep agro from us lolol

the pull on the theater after the stage boss was soo fun with it lol

[edgy widget]

gavel's biggest annoyance was just the mob

I can take the effect RNG, but trying to find that fucking ghost, especially when you had multiple gavel users, was a pita

[tepid cedar]

lol having plater with like 5 mods to have blinking sparkling highlighting, pink color

jsut to find the fkn thing

[eager mulch]

That sounds fabulous

[open prairie]

they never fixed contract trinket off kyveza didnt hit bloodbound horror

[fickle cedar]

btw can you go back to bandit with the skip ?

[whole yacht]

checked last night, no. door is closed

[fickle cedar]

oh thats annoying, gotta save a character there i suppose

[formal stump]

Anyone else having an issue with the weekly assignment? Only 2 world quests appeared and I need to do 3 to unlock

[calm kiln]

Did you select a cartel?

[formal stump]

hmm. Dont remember

How do I check?

[hasty phoenix]

between house of card, eye of kezan, and lock n stalk all at 665, what would you run in an m+ environment? Or simply dependent on eye uptime

[winter shoal]

eye big doodoo in m+

[calm kiln]

probably lock and HoC, have to chain puill to keep stacks up

[sour frigate]

house + pacemaker or energy drink or mechano

[bitter palm]

house fucks

[hasty phoenix]

thanks!

[edgy widget]

I've found 665 lock to be pretty doo in multitarget, so I usually swap it for 658 mechano-core

[calm kiln]

i have been doing hte same thing lol

[edgy widget]

probably doesn't make a huge difference either way

[hasty phoenix]

in the mass aoe mode or st mode?

I havent tested how much it matters, although honestly its very annoying to swap every pull essentially

I'm an arms main but trying fury out since arms on mythic rik and stix is not fun

[edgy widget]

either and/or both

[quiet breach]

precision in single target, mass destruct in sustained cleave

[tepid solar]

On gally when he is in the middle and the small adds spawn, can you just face gally, and WW and will the next abilities (rampage, etc.) hit the adds directly behind you? Or will the WW cleave only work in front of you?

[edgy widget]

hits in a circle

[tepid cedar]

dont give a F it was only a 12 cinder... we take these winssss 🤣 🤣

[keen dove]

we use whetstone or mana oil ?

[tepid cedar]

I used mister the entire run too. And it felt better than the 658 mechano.

Mananoil usually sims better

Sim it and find out

[tepid solar]

Thanks!

[keen dove]

I would like to get an answer for hc gallywix should i sim st or hectic addcleave

[serene kraken]

does using oil on both weapons work

or do u oil + whetstone or something

[edgy widget]

adds aren't regular enough for HAC, can just go full ST

[thick elbow]

the WA for bloodthirst seems wonky it will say 100% then drop immediatly to 50%. basically when u hear the cha ching sound should u bloodthirst over raging blow

[keen dove]

alright thanks

[edgy widget]

sounds like you have a big temp buff that runs out (Seaforium, Reck, Double Down, etc)

[thick elbow]

probably

[edgy widget]

remember it counts all combined crit

[thick elbow]

so should u in general use bt when u hear it go off?

[edgy widget]

Assuming nothing higher priority is happening that second, yeah

[warm crag]

ye

[tepid cedar]

St for almost everything to be honest lol

Oh nm Archi answered you as well

[keen dove]

yeah

thanks

[hollow quiver]

at which number of target is it worth to switch multi with Mr Lock N Stalk?

I mean on some fights like 2d boss when they clash is it worth on 2 targets?

[edgy widget]

1

[hollow quiver]

ok ty

[tepid cedar]

That run I just rammed at the entire way lol

Feels like the damage split into to many mobs would be minuscule

[edgy widget]

still more than hitting 1

split damage also does scale, it gains a small amount for each additional target and then splits the total damage among them
it's just not straight 100% additional damage with each extra target

[sour frigate]

trying to get my 13th priory...

day of depletes...

[tepid cedar]

Damn!! You got it bro!!

[sour frigate]

i dont believe

10 keys 0 wins

[tepid cedar]

Hopefully today I can get resil 15

[sour frigate]

[tepid cedar]

Need 15 priory and top

[sour frigate]

top sounds like a fury play

[tepid cedar]

lol we still get our dpsed 😂😂

[sour frigate]

i did a bit less than ww on fury at top

so shouldnt be that horrible

[whole yacht]

that shaman afk?

[tepid cedar]

I’m gonna try using mister ST the whole 15 top run and compare to my 14. If felt really good even on the bigger packs getting all procs on a target

[tepid cedar]

No idea

But we taking the dub without asking questions

😂

[whole yacht]

lol

[quiet breach]

what if its in raid and its one of those add spawns that die fast? which is most of them

is it worth to switch for that then have to wait 30 seconds to switch back to ST mode? id assume not

[random raptor]

I wonder what blizzard could do to make queueing for m+ feel a lot better, I know you all feel the pain of trying to get into keys

[tepid cedar]

Make us relevant and bring something to the table

[random raptor]

I don't think it's just a warrior problem though

[tepid cedar]

This is the problem

[random raptor]

There will always be a meta, that's people pushing top end, I'm talking about the time it takes to get into all keys - 14s for me right now

[tepid cedar]

I have an IRL friend who is actually dogwater at the game lol dude gets in any key cause even sucking he can hit 18+ mil on pulls lol

[random raptor]

I wonder if adding interrupts/brez/lust like summoner spells in league that is assigned in a party before you start the key could be a solution to balancing out the things needed in keys, just a thought

I've also been awake for 30 hours

[tepid cedar]

I don’t even think it’s considered meta at this point ( personal opinion) it’s. Legit freebie classes being ranged and 2 . No competition from other classes

[barren dagger]

that would destroy class identity to a point so don't think they would do that

[tepid cedar]

Which is a reason r1 title should be based of classes and not total

Mfrs wanna play meta go ahead but compete will all the other meta-andies out there

[random raptor]

More accessibility would help with player retention, which would mean even more keys though, class identity should be more about your rotational skills/skill set and less about abilities needed to time a key right

When I enjoy a game mode but I'm spending more time trying to get into it than playing it, it feels very bad

[random raptor]

I like this, it makes way more sense

[sour frigate]

aura buff by 5% for arms and bring back bursty fury aoe

🤷‍♀️

[nova atlas]

give warriors lust. shaman gets lust and a raid buff now but warriors dont for some reason

[sour frigate]

outside of it shaman has much bigger aoe ceiling

[open wigeon]

My take is that I would give class MORE identity, Bress only for druids but with a longer CD and lust only for shaman but maybe weaker a little, but this is a stupid idea like me

[tepid cedar]

lol bloodlust literally fits the warriors lore 😂😂

[open wigeon]

Bloodlust is magical, not a coaching session

[sour frigate]

Im playing details not lore game sir

[barren dagger]

you guys ever leap over a swirlie you thought you could dodge and just die?

[sour frigate]

rookie mistake ig

or ping issue

[barren dagger]

skill issue

probably

[tepid cedar]

I just die. Cause if you ain’t dying you ain’t trying

[slender iron]

Is mechano-core better then funhouse lens?

[sullen dove]

🤖📜

[bitter palm]

🤖

[faint whale]

/simc

[winter shoal]

So true bestie

[sour frigate]

i wouldnt compare use to passive trinkets like that

[sullen dove]

me when i have 2 portals to motherlode

oh one is the horde port i accidentally took

tf

im on my alliance dragon alt

i did just get keystone hero on it in that dungeon so idk if thats why it bugs or somethin

[sudden tusk]

dwagon

[sullen dove]

mf just put me in dazaralor

madragonsmish

o when i entered the dungeon i had gallywix talk to me about the world quest and thought that was weird

[sour frigate]

dragon

[sullen dove]

but realizing maybe cuz i entered like at the same time as the horde leader or something

i just have both ports now perhaps

[sour frigate]

🔥 🐲

[sullen dove]

🔥 🎆 🤯 🐲

[sour frigate]

🎆🎆 🐉 🎆🎆

^ me when firestorm procs

[sullen dove]

yesmge

[sour frigate]

weak numbers

rookie

[sullen dove]

i just got 4set mane

[sour frigate]

4set giga boosts ngl

+50% damage on that burst breath is next level

[sullen dove]

lmao just hit 2 20m engulfs and 1 15m fb on first boss motherlode

big burst window

[sour frigate]

🔥 🐲

[sullen dove]

🔥 🐲

[sullen dove]

🔥 🐲

i need a second trinket that isnt algari sigil of concordance thoughts

[marble swift]

Do we not get a spark this week? Which quest is it?

[snow edge]

Half a spark; just pick up the weekly quest from the usual NPC outside the inn in Dornogal

[winter shoal]

⛏️

[tepid cedar]

dummy 5T-2.5 min. def worth using in aoe and swapping for bosses. realy might be a good M+ trinket for us

[quiet breach]

if robot is telling me it wants other stats besides mastery that means i should start popping haste/vers consumes right?

since the robot doesnt take consumes into account (at least as far as i know)

or raid buffs

or is there a way u can sim your current gear, and it will tell you which consumes are best to pop?

[little saffron]

when is it better to focus ur bloodthirst instead of raging blow? and when should i be utilizing my sudden death proc? (ive usually been hitting it on cd but is it better to hold it some and wait for the timer to count down some and or use it incase of rage starve?)

[lime haven]

does jester diamond still need to be reequipped ?

[tepid cedar]

2.5 min M+ build ST- 1 dummy

lol..... legit, m,aybe jsut set it on mass destruction and forget it

[edgy widget]

use the #1237307732705415228 for bloodthirst
use Sudden Death at 3 stacks of marked (there are a few minor conditions but that's the main one)
both can be used as a filler if RB/Rampage aren't available

[edgy widget]

no

[tepid cedar]

archi look at that shit

2 less procs not as much as diff

[lime haven]

awesome ty

[edgy widget]

rng is a hell of a drug

[tepid cedar]

its been semi consisent. my finger asre jsut fucking tired. but i repeated each one 3x each. and it was about the same results

[little saffron]

it can go up to 3 stacks? i have yet to have seen it that high i can only ever get it to 2

[edgy widget]

3 stacks of marked

[edgy widget]

I mean it's still 26% higher

[modest condor]

also more crit on the aoe one

[little saffron]

wdym by marked? sorry im just noticing some deficiencies i can fix and this is one of them as i dont pay as much attention as i should to my sudden death procs

[little saffron]

ahh i get what u mean now is there a weak aura to track that? i already have the one that makes my execute light up when i have sudden death to proc but is there anything else?

[royal copper]

Has anyone tried to play with ekstra critical stats?

[clever path]

ah finally

finally fucking giot my priority mostly correct

the extra 50k dps came from a rat that wandered in

[clever path]

ive been thinking aobut it because of Culminating Blasphemite

i am curious if its a vlaid strat to take extra crit so you can hit bloodthrist on 2 stacks instead of 3

but i assume its not worth since i havetn seen anyone doing it

[royal copper]

That’s what I was thinking…

[clever path]

perma critting warrior would be quite a sight

[plush ice]

ah good ole' old warrior, didn't reck give 100 percent crit

[clever path]

i dont remember tbh

[sullen dove]

look at lil chud over there

[spare steppe]

it did

it also had a 30m cd

[sullen dove]

think it was 100% crit in legion

just like... didnt last nearly as long

and was an actual cd by itself

[plush ice]

yeah, cause w/ CoF you had the wambo combo, and then you added drought

fun times

[sullen dove]

not some mid ass slight rage regen propped up by avatar

[smoky vale]

new route thoughts

[spare steppe]

how do you get from 6 to 7

[winter shoal]

We do a little blasting

[whole yacht]

what boss

[winter shoal]

Sprocky

[whole yacht]

nice nice

[untold elbow]

kinda locked in tho

[winter shoal]

I'm afraid not

[smoky vale]

you got backwards

[quiet breach]

what does not locked in mean?

why are parses not locked in?

[smoky vale]

not paying attention

[quiet breach]

no I know that, I mean parses

parse always says not locked in at first

[winter shoal]

It means compared to logs that exist up to this point it's that rank, but it's not comparing against other logs from that day'

Logs "lock in" at like 7am eastern I think

So that log is a 99 relative to all logs before today, but it may not end up a 99 after lock in

Example: my raid last night ended at midnight eastern

After lock in:

[fluid cedar]

how often yall blasting RB's enrage dry rage capped post bladestorm to juice up that next rampage?

[winter shoal]

Personally I only do it outside of reck

Which sims almost exactly the same as not doing it at all

Which is -0.4% from doing it perfectly

[winter shoal]

Frenzied or powerful on stix buds what do we think

[twin oasis]

can someone link the WA for blooodthirts

[winter shoal]

#updates-midnight message

[restive peak]

I ran powerful

Frenzied just made the CDs up before needed and you sat them or sent into boss

Lol

@winter shoal

[winter shoal]

Did you cd on cd

Or hold

[restive peak]

I CD'd mostly on CD except if adds were about to come in

[mental pollen]

Any warriors around that wanna help my guild get gally kill? 4.5% heroic best pull, our warr had to dip for family stuff so

trying to find a new shout lol

[dense elbow]

It does suprise me none are signing in LFG, guess the time is weird on NA

[cold cape]

What’s the current best Fury rotation guide?

[mental pollen]

None with xp on the fight that we've seen so far lol

[dense elbow]

WoWhead one

And just keep looking, I am sure you will see a warrbro up to standard soon, Fen

[quiet breach]

if u have powerful enrage instead of frenzied enrage can you change targets without losing DPS?

[cold cape]

I’m just confused because I see a lot of openers different from the one listed on wowhead

Openers I see a lot are Charge, RB to Rampage then use CDs but wowhead says use CDs at opener

[winter shoal]

you lose dps because of frenzy, not frenzied enrage

[spare steppe]

you dont need to RB to rampage if you reckless before charge

[cold cape]

Yeah but some logs I read some people do Reck after their first Rampage

[winter shoal]

those people are misplaying

[cold cape]

Those are like top parses and seasoned Warriors though

[tepid cedar]

lol show me

[quiet breach]

reck, avatar, charge, auto, rampage

[fierce peak]

In raid, what do I prioritize when bladestorm just ended and I have execute proc + 2 raging blows? Lets say in reck, its a giga-overcap situation but whats optimal here?

[cold cape]

Sure I’m on phone but I will tag you tonight

[quiet breach]

keep RBing till u run out of enrage or RBs, doesn't matter if capped

[fierce peak]

Notice Critcake raging blow is overcapping rage which makes sense.. but his Exe is not so whats he doing

[winter shoal]

The dps gain from stacking SS for BF is so minimal that it's just not worth worrying about in those cases

Just send your rampage and move on with your rotation

[dense elbow]

WoWhead as far I seen got all the bases cowered. PvE, PvP, AoE, ST, all the talents.

Only reason you would push back your CDS would be because of some situation making that oppertune. Like adds spawning or perhaps boss is being hurried around a few sec.

Check Lorrrgs for the best site for overview of when to use CDs

[winter shoal]

If done perfectly, SS stacking is 0.4% dps

[cold cape]

Do we ever hold Reck to use with Bladestorm for the Avatar buff?

[fierce peak]

Ah so I can just bladestorm > raging til empty > rampage > then exe proc

[tepid cedar]

24 secs and over send it

24 secs and below hold it

[cold cape]

Ok gotcha

[fierce peak]

Sometimes I notice when bladestorm ends and I have exe proc, spamming raging blow then rampage and delaying Exe proc will munch a proc (i'll get another exe proc and it resets). That's fine in this scenario?

[winter shoal]

I think you took away the exact opposite of what I was saying

[fierce peak]

sorry im restarted thehn

[winter shoal]

No, the exe conditions are higher prio than the RB stacking

What I'm saying is if you just brain off use rampage, you lose almost no damage

Like you wouldn't notice

[dense elbow]

I just kinda enjoy the mini game of 'can you get max stacks' gamba

[fierce peak]

Roger that, ok thank you

[tepid cedar]

am i the only one that loves the archon WCL addon lol

[winter shoal]

Is it released already?

[hollow elk]

released a few days ago

dont have a sub so i get week old info but like .... i hardly pug so this info is not important to me lol

[junior gale]

cant wait for my alt to never get invited to keys because it doesnt have raid logs

whoopie

[winter shoal]

Doesn't show up til you have like 20 hc boss kills innit

[hollow elk]

you wouldnt have gotten invited anyways if you didnt get any kills anyways

[junior gale]

?

[hollow elk]

the addon literally shows info that you would have gotten by clicking on the logs link thats already on your main/alt

[static rock]

Just got off a call with warrior guildie about M+ fury damage breakdown. Am I still correct in assuming that execute should be a last resort to press, and only to be used as a filler?

[hollow elk]

yep

last in line for m+

[junior gale]

if it shows main data thats fine then

[chilly fractal]

Unless they are trolling and playing Slayer

[cold cape]

@tepid cedar https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/NXd4wFtnWZq8hgLR?fight=11&type=casts&source=3&view=events

[tepid cedar]

its vexie

hes jsut holding

probably weaiting for bnikes

bikes

to spawn or his timing his cds to come back for dps phase if his guild is on a static timer with their dps etc

15 top timed babyy, and i fkn died 2x on final boss from animals into frontal :(((

[silent swift]

Why tf do underpin bombs on prot kill the bots in 2 but in dps its like 4

cooked as

[lean heart]

[dense fulcrum]

[tepid cedar]

damnnnnnnnn missed timer on 15 cinder by like 20 sec. tank dec after 2nd boss for 2 min 😦

mister trinket going harrrrd on keys

with a 2 min dc and death half way through lust on first pull. using mass on everything until literally bosses are solo or under 30% then swapping to precision

[heavy nacelle]

you're the one who dc'd and died?

oh the tank..

love my fury warr but overall dps makes me sad ;[

[dense fulcrum]

😦

[river reef]

[dense fulcrum]

dont get more gear now

till the end of s2

anyway i tried arms tonight in some keys...ye dmg is good but the gameplay is dogwater

fury buff when

[tepid cedar]

anyone know if the spell reflect WA has been fixed yuet

[eternal compass]

Guys does enh play like fury? Want to try other classes but i really enjoy fury playstyle so id like something similar

[thorny cove]

can't get into a 13 as fury, arms, or prot

[heavy nacelle]

not even prot? interesting 🙂

[simple shell]

on lock-n-stalk do you swap between the stance or does the ST do more dmg overall even in big pulls?

[plucky ice]

I'd use something else in m+

[sullen dove]

aoe mode def better for multi target

can maybe swap to st for bosses if you want but generally always on mt

its not like the absolute best compared to like an on use trinket with your cds but its still a pretty damn respectable dmg trinket for m+ too

pri consistent 3-5%

[remote bobcat]

good morning lads

how did we decide to waste our time today

🤝

[sullen dove]

🔥 🐲

[marsh dragon]

Hi everyone
Can you reflect the jaws in mechagon?

trash dogs leap

[gray fossil]

Guys, what is the best way to sim for ST/AOE/M+?

[radiant plank]

5min 1t, 5t 40s

[stone merlin]

I’ve slept at least 16 hours of the last 24

[remote bobcat]

gaming

[stone merlin]

What

[next ruin]

I have heroic pacemaker, heroic kezan or heroic lock n stalk as second trinket. Which one would fit the best for M+ content? Don't answer "sim it" I'm talking about realistic usage.

Is it worth it to farm any other dungeon trinket?

[gleaming siren]

Realistically I'd try to farm a Mechano-Core or Energy Drink from Delves and run that with the Pacemaker

Dungeon trinkets suck

Except Pacemaker which you already have so

[next ruin]

Even a normal mode one would be better?

[gleaming siren]

Kezan kinda sucks for M+ if you're not chaining most of the dungeon imo and I'm not a fan of LocknStalk in M+ so I'd run Champ over them as a feelycraft

But that's pure feely 🤷‍♂️

[granite crown]

Energy drink champ track would also be better likely

[next ruin]

Can I run lvl 8 delves again and again to get them, or can they only loot in bountiful delves?

[granite crown]

Bountiful with key gives champ track, map and vault gives hero, lvl 8 gives LFR (veteran?)

[gleaming siren]

You wouldn't get Normal ilvl from non-bountifuls

[next ruin]

So it would get me a 645 ilvl delve trinket I guess?

[tight roost]

Best bet is probably to fill your vault with tier8+ delves for a chance at heroic there

[next ruin]

Yea that's the long term solution

What about priory trinket? I've seen some people use it on archon, could that be better short term?

[granite crown]

Probably faster to farm champ track delve trinkets, and better performance. But if you highroll priory trinket it'll do fine

[heavy nacelle]

The Fury Warrior rotation in World of Warcraft involves a series of precise actions, including managing cooldowns, maintaining buffs, and executing abilities in a specific order. This requires a high level of cognitive function, quick reflexes, and an understanding of the game's mechanics.

While chimpanzees are intelligent and can learn to perform certain tasks, the complexity and speed required for a Fury Warrior rotation would be beyond their capabilities. They lack the fine motor skills and abstract thinking needed to manage such a detailed and fast-paced sequence of actions.

Damn.. you can't have your chimp farm keys for trinkets while you're at work

[fervent yoke]

If I have 3 stacks of bloodcraze but RB is up would it be worth stacking bloodcraze to 5 or just send it at 3?

[gleaming siren]

AI slop AI slop AI slop AI slop

[next ruin]

Might be a reach, but spellqueueing either of those is probably way better than thinking 1s and having downtime. Have the weakaura, otherwise spam RB

[clever belfry]

i am AI slop

a figment of a neural immagination

[gleaming siren]

me when a neural network dreams up Glorpius McGlorpface, the glorpiest that ever was

[fervent yoke]

Ye I have the weakaura and it will light up at 3 stacks when I’ll have a charge or 2 of RB still avail. so basically I press BT when I hear the kaching other wise RB.. aka I’m overthinking it haha

[next ruin]

Yea just press buttons

[clever belfry]

balls vs balls hd

[oblique trail]

vs

[next ruin]

Tried looking for the answer but didn't find it. Around what timer for a boss kill would kezan surpass other trinkets? 4+ min bosses?

[oblique trail]

No clue, I don't have one but from simming for theoretical reasons it started beating my HoC 665 and Locknstalk 678 at 6+ minutes

[compact siren]

Anda is AI

[next ruin]

By beating them, which one did you keep

[oblique trail]

But in practice, you can use it on Bandit and beyond and it will always be beneficial

[oblique trail]

Lock

[compact siren]

He has too many balls variations to be human

[next ruin]

I have the same setup but heroic lock, I will sim both of them in 6+min also to see which one to keep

[oblique trail]

House of Cards is good, but our damage profile as Fury isn't particularly bursty

[next ruin]

Oh I'm stupid, I have pacemaker not hoc

Read too fast

[clever belfry]

hoc

[oblique trail]

hoc and cbt

[chrome plover]

what does that do lmfao

[unreal onyx]

WW malding

[fluid kite]

Any tips for the Underpin on ?? difficulty as Fury? I wanted to use the Footbomb Curio and the Bioprinter

[next ruin]

Man thinks he is Rosa Parks

[serene reef]

Be patient, watch the timer for his leap (I think it's called crush?) and run to an open space around the edge to bait him to jump to you. When he is around 25% maybe do one last set of goonies, then ignore mechanics and try to burn him down

[thorn pelican]

Good morning, I have a question for you. During last night’s session, I noticed that my parses weren’t particularly impressive. That’s why today I decided to compare my performance with the top Fury Warriors on the first Mythic bosses.

Looking at my logs, I found that the ratio between damage and the number of casts of Rampage, Bloodthirst, and Raging Blow was very similar to what’s simulated with Raidbots. However, what surprised me was that when looking at the logs of top players, their ratios among these three abilities seemed quite different—heavily skewed towards Bloodthirst rather than Raging Blow.

In many cases, Bloodthirst appears to be the main source of damage or at least very close to Rampage, whereas in my logs (and even in Raidbots sims), Raging Blow should be ahead.

Do you know if there have been any changes in the priority of the rotation or anything similar?

Thanks for the support!

[upper mica]

is eye still BiS for raid fights or has cards surpassed?

[warm crag]

You want both ye

Sim yourself tho

[upper mica]

wouldnt you prefer mechano over one?

hypothetically

[warm crag]

Idk what ilvl what fight what fight length what day of the week is it what do you have access to

[upper mica]

this is good point lol

[granite crown]

If it's such a good point you should provide context, no? XD

[upper mica]

unfortunately dosent matter as loot was given to others 😦 sadge

[serene reef]

No no changes to the rotation. If you look at the damage breakdown on raidbots, it appears bloodthirst casts from bladestorm unhinged talent are counted under bladestorm damage (click the dropdown and you'll see it). That might be the disparity you're seeing.

[warm hedge]

Is warrior low right now or am i just bad in mythic +? i cant compete dmg wise with any class

[serene reef]

Arms is good. But fury suffers heavily from the target cap, particularly in dungeons like meadery, floodgate etc. where most pulls are >5 targets

[sinful mantle]

It's ok, fury is having a hard time even on 5 targets 😄 Fury is ok for most keys, but arms is good if you want to have a bit more overall and less-ish boss damage

[ancient olive]

Many people here used thane against one armed bandit? Saw on mythic that it’s the most commonly used build although only 8 fury’s have cleared it on mythic so small data set

But I’m wondering if that would work well on heroic, I struggle to get good boss damage in on one armed bandit due to spending so much time on adds

Wonder if thane would work well by making add and boss damage a little more seamlessly togethr

[clever belfry]

fury is inherently mid at target swapping that often

u just munch your frenzy stacks inf times