fury

[eternal sundial]

Into afk into kaboom in exe

[earnest canyon]

You know what really annoys me though?

[eternal sundial]

Mages?

[opal monolith]

[earnest canyon]

When my neighbour decides to sand down an antique desk in his yard, which is right now

[sour frigate]

[earnest canyon]

Its loud as fuck

[eternal sundial]

Lmao

[eternal sundial]

OVERALL MATTERS YAHOO

[earnest canyon]

im surprised MM is so high with being capped

[opal monolith]

Yes because my ego

[sour frigate]

Sadge mm still not good st if no procs

[sour frigate]

Lock n load incident

[eternal sundial]

Ye MM st in key is sad

Dr fixes that apparently

But less aoe

[sour frigate]

Not really

Dr aoe build shit in st too

There is also some cleave build without volley for bigg st but not fun for aoe

[hazy cedar]

BM always bis

[earnest canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/hug-cuddle-its-okay-comfort-dog-gif-14612035

[open otter]

So I both like Arms and Fury in Raid. How is the Single Target Difference between Arms and Fury? At the Moment we are progressing Stix and so far I maxed DPS while Playing Fury Slayer at Vexie, Arms at Cauldron, Fury Slayer at Rik and now Mountain Thane Fury at Stix. Since the Rest of the bosses is pure ST or in need of bursty AOE phases is Fury better than Arms? I am asking this cause Gear is also different and somehow you have to decide between those 2 Speccs.

[tardy lark]

arms for mugzee and bandit

[sour frigate]

Just a less funny fury

[tardy lark]

fury for gally

dont ask Walhe about this topic

[whole sail]

@radiant plank hey can i ask you about this topic

[radiant plank]

Hey

I agree fury for Gally

👍

dont ask banezi about this topic

[whole sail]

@oblique trail hey can i ask you about this topic

[gleaming siren]

Also the gear really isn't that different

Huh

Swap like ring, maybe neck and like one or two other pieces maybe and you're golden

Realistically a very small swap is more than good enough

[warm crag]

Neckeratur

Can you sim my character for me please

[coarse nest]

Ring neck and 2nd wep swings stats plenty for me

[compact siren]

Want to play World of Warcraft and sim each others characters?

[bitter palm]

@whole sail hi

[barren dagger]

Saw revvez play arms yesterday on gally

So has to be correct choice

[earnest canyon]

Revvez doesnt know what he is doing though, so I wouldnt trust him

[brittle phoenix]

@whole sail hi

[coarse nest]

[tepid cedar]

Do we get another catalyst charge on today’s reset or is it next week

[sly crane]

Today

[solemn plover]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1294680138042183711/1356017029269684330/image.png?ex=67eb08c5&is=67e9b745&hm=20e699fe63eaa00389d1aed852e6fccb99dd77868550eff4cad5e8b6ff8495a6&

[celest anchor]

he was fury

[radiant plank]

https://imgur.com/1nUZrGo

[pulsar quest]

Wallife and walhe back to back!!

I thought they were the same person

[celest anchor]

I had to log my alt account to react with a gif ofc

[radiant plank]

I had to log my main account to confirm this fake news ofc

[pulsar quest]

Holy..

I’ve uncovered the truth today

My theory that all the top warriors is just one guy multi boxing is coming true

Like a tall guy in a trench coat actually being 3 kids stacked

[radiant plank]

Archimtiros = Revvez

[golden badge]

Soo I'm doing like ~4M on pulls in m+ and ~1.6-1.8M ST on bosses (ofc depending on boss) overall is like ~2.1M are those bad numbers? Cus I got hated on like 8 times for only doing that much while trying to get KSL.

[tepid cedar]

You mean 4 mill on pull with all yours cds

[golden badge]

Ye after combat ends, when ret is like 7m+

[tepid cedar]

Yea

That’s normal

But ur a bit low

St is lower than it should be

[pulsar quest]

What’s your ilvl and what’s the key levels

[golden badge]

~663 and +12-13 level

[pulsar quest]

I’m doing like 14m with all cds but this is like 14/15s

Oh wait nvm this is fury

But it still should be a tiny bit higher

I’m doing like 5-6 as fury if I use everything

Around same ilvl

What trinkets you using

[golden badge]

Eye at 658 and floodgate one at 665

[pulsar quest]

Hmm

[tepid cedar]

2.7-3 mil overall your playing pretty high level break 3 mil on some keys and your playing that top .1% fury level

[golden badge]

no rare drops from raids

[tepid cedar]

Take eye off

[pulsar quest]

Eye kinda sucks for m+

[tepid cedar]

Unless ur constant combat you lose attacks to quick even being wuick

[pulsar quest]

If you have a better one use it

[radiant plank]

Log a key and post it

[tepid cedar]

Farm every week for mechano

[radiant plank]

so ppl can actually see whats going on

👍

[pulsar quest]

Yeah, it could be a slight rotation issue too

That’s the best you can do is log it

[tepid cedar]

His st most likely is

[radiant plank]

Losing alot of value by not running any on use trinkets

[tepid cedar]

1.7-1.8 is low

[radiant plank]

like funhouse or hoc

[pulsar quest]

Been a few days since I ran a fury key but my ST was like 2.5 or so

[radiant plank]

Mechano core is useless to farm with your current trinkets

I would rather chase the on uses I mentioned above

[pulsar quest]

If you can get a hoc on like any lvl it would be great

[golden badge]

maybe vault tomorrow will be a lucky one with that, but I will look into getting like anything to switch up with eye

[tepid cedar]

I have tried 658 hoc and mechano with my 678 pace

Oc don’t come close to mechano

[radiant plank]

in sims

but

in practical use

having an on use trinket

is alot of value

since in sims you dont have downtime from hitting packs

[tepid cedar]

No try admin have both

As in*

[radiant plank]

in m+ you run from pack to pack

cds come up when there is downtime etc,

[tepid cedar]

The consistency of mechano and literally having the buff once or twice almost every pull is too clutch from my experience than a set 1.5 cd

[golden badge]

I guess I can farm that one by doing bountifull delves?

[tepid cedar]

More beneficial to the group it but I’m always up to to trying it it out mroe .

[tepid cedar]

Yea cause you can also try and get the lens aswell that also comes from there

[golden badge]

I think I had it drop, but I can always check restore page for anything I would've vendored earlier in the season

[tepid cedar]

But as mentioned log a run. And post it in log review . Best thing to do

[golden badge]

ye I'm going through whatever logs I have from the past couple of days

[tepid cedar]

Ur aoe seems fine

But 1.7-1.8 boss is low

good luck on your vaults today!!!! may we all get jastors and glory today!

[pulsar quest]

I’m kinda scared to get jastors

I got the mythic cauldron ring last week

For arms

[tepid cedar]

replace cyrces

[pulsar quest]

And I really don’t wanna waste it lol

[tepid cedar]

problem solvedf

🙂

[pulsar quest]

Yeah maybe

[tepid cedar]

hopefuly they nerf that shit so we can finaly say goodbye to it

[pulsar quest]

True

[golden badge]

I guess I should post it in log-review right ?

[tepid cedar]

yes sir

[golden badge]

huh I got no permissions, did I forgot to check a role or smthn? nvm it's the help and log-review now, didn't even noticed when it changed since last time I was looking at that

[radiant plank]

https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1347646810457636974

[south kayak]

[prime saddle]

yuge gz

[dense elbow]

Gotta minmax travel time

[flat river]

XD

[iron portal]

I read swfitie as Swifty

[dense elbow]

Ngl, same

[flat river]

[drowsy sage]

i was so confused then i saw the date xd

[compact knot]

LETS FUCKING GOOOOO

[junior gale]

Bring back the Xaly toes

[warm crag]

Wtf

[coarse nest]

Damn red bottom aye

[glad coyote]

love how blizzard has time to come up with this april fools stuff but doesnt fix the issue with uncapped and capp specs

[rare garnet]

I mean a shitpost like this takes 5s and a prompt to an AI bot.

I’m sure they lost no dev time

The real obstacle is the milk drinking competitions they have

[earnest canyon]

That is funny coming from a guy called "autoclick" 🤣

These april fools things make it funny as they seem aware as to what pisses people off, but why they dont fix it....yeah

[hollow mirage]

HAHA!!! No no, don't buff or balance us... NO! make us SHOUT louder, that will fix everything xD

ps: is just me or do Blizzard really have no clue what to do with our class rofl

pps: prob will still enjoy this for the sound effects as a Worgen rofl AWoOoo! haha

[rare garnet]

Hopefully shoutmaster works like the new CPU addon profiling option that automatically is turned on and turns back on every time you login, aka, sound settings are all enabled at max volume every time you swap to shoutmaster.

[flat river]

take my money

[hollow mirage]

Hopefully the volume give is pretend dmg buff so we can least IMAGINE we are stronger haha

[hollow mirage]

Can we please get infinite charge now, i want yell entire dungeons throughout now haha

[earnest canyon]

Just running around and yelling like the hulk would be amazing

[hollow mirage]

HAHA omfg id love it XD

[calm mantle]

Real april fools joke would be a troll vault

[earnest canyon]

I have had that for weeks

[ashen pine]

Tell me, is it possible to make some kind of macro to use thunderclap every 4 seconds with maximum uptime? For example, rampage + thunderclap?

[smoky vale]

no

[earnest canyon]

anything on the same GCD cant be macroed

[ashen pine]

I understand, I just wonder if it is possible to write a macro with a "queue". For example, you use rampage, but every 4 seconds you press thunderclap, if it is available

[oblique trail]

No

The closest to that is a castsequence, but castsequence wouldn't work either because you'd have to write a specific sequence, and if any of them are missing, then it wont work

[sour frigate]

[smoky vale]

hi bobzilla

[sour frigate]

me looting 2 pairs of boots

gio 👋

[burnt kelp]

What issue ? It was deliberately introduced in bfa

[smoky vale]

Is B b

[burnt kelp]

Thats how they want the game to be

[ashen pine]

Saw something similar with prot-paladins. They used block hit + some hit and they had crazy uptime.

[oblique trail]

You're thinking of shield of the righteousness probably

Which is an oGCD ability

[gilded pawn]

He’s mad because writers can’t code

[sour frigate]

in this case sounds like V

[smoky vale]

why is your name bobzilla if there arent 2 bs unless the backwards n is lowercase b

[sour frigate]

🤔

The nick is different

[clever belfry]

@oblique trail helo

[burnt kelp]

Maybe he could introduce them to easy coding for beginners

[oblique trail]

meowdy @clever belfry

[lost saffron]

@oblique trail Have you shrunk recently

[oblique trail]

I am currently shrinking, progging in FF

[clever belfry]

progging or pogging

[lost saffron]

My condolences

[oblique trail]

Progging and detonating

[clever belfry]

no honey b lovely = no me

[burnt kelp]

Detonating or blasting

[oblique trail]

Instead of Honey B Lovely we now have a midget spraypainter in her stead

[lost saffron]

What job are you playing?

[oblique trail]

It's really not the same

[clever belfry]

thats sad to hear

[oblique trail]

ranged gunperson

I should've played melee gunperson

Then I'd be useful

[smoky vale]

what is a gunperson

[burnt kelp]

I didnt even know the honey bee boss was like the first one in the raid, big L if you ask me. Thats like starting with kil jaeden to then prog on the watchers in tomb of sargeras

Why even play after you've killed the best boss

Well kil jaeden sucked but you get the idea

[oblique trail]

Machinist or Gunbreaker

[lost saffron]

I dont get the idea

[oblique trail]

Machinist = ranged dps, kinda like BM but no pet (that you gotta control)
Gunbreaker = tank

[eternal sundial]

american

[smoky vale]

https://tenor.com/view/get-blown-up-dog-dog-explosion-sticky-notes-gif-17071604041793579031

[earnest canyon]

Does FF still have that shit where it doesnt matter what the boss does and you just have to look at the shapes on the floor? Or did they make it realtime like wow

[oblique trail]

?

[earnest canyon]

We are talking about FF14 right?

[oblique trail]

Yes

I don't know what you mean by it not mattering what the boss does

[earnest canyon]

When I played it last, it was just like playing dance dance revolution

the boss animations dont matter

you are just walking into and out of shapes

[oblique trail]

How do they matter in wow

[willow cradle]

Proper outlines for abilities doesn't mean the bosses do nothing.

[earnest canyon]

because when the boss does its big smash or whatever, it matters

[clever belfry]

?

its the same in ff

[earnest canyon]

in FF you just ignore the boss and walk in and out of shapes

[clever belfry]

where if the boss moves right arm

u ddoge left sometimes

[earnest canyon]

I think they did it because its a ps3 game

[clever belfry]

wow doesnt even have that.

it hasnt been on ps3 for like a decade my king

[pulsar quest]

servers up wowee

[willow cradle]

Honestly Wow got more defined outlines for abilities in this patch and it's a major improvement.

[solemn plover]

Banezi be quiet. You never raided

[earnest canyon]

wow just feels like playing street fighter or something in realtime, FF always felt like a stand in the shapes simulator

maybe it has changed

[oblique trail]

Idk when you last played chief

But ever since I started in Endwalker it's not been like that

[earnest canyon]

few years ago....never liked the combat at all

[clever belfry]

disliking the combat is fine

saying wrong shit

aint

[pulsar prawn]

Unless there is a firestorm evoker in your group

[earnest canyon]

i mean my opinion is valid

its an opinion

[pulsar quest]

https://i.imgur.com/clXrvlI.png

we up big

[earnest canyon]

but ive played nearly ever mmo since meridian 59, and FF combat is dogshit

[pulsar quest]

5 big booms for this neck

[pulsar prawn]

I see, your having a stroke

[ashen lily]

I need some advice. I saw somewhere that pacemaker sims high and should look at different trinkets? I don't know which to choose

[eternal sundial]

PERISH 4 WHEEL DRIVE CAR

[pulsar quest]

pacemaker or HoC there

[nova atlas]

very nice

[fickle cedar]

pace

[pulsar quest]

mythic pacemaker tbh

[smoky vale]

blow up

[ashen lily]

okie dokie

[tepid cedar]

bullshit ass vaultttttt

678 gloves it is 😦

[calm mantle]

I'm unsure between hero mechano or mythic neck. Maybe I wait till I do my wave scrambler later.

[pulsar quest]

mfw i get a giga fury neck but im arms on OAB and Mugzee for the next 2 weeks

[fickle cedar]

neck

[calm mantle]

since champ vs hero mechano isn't a huge difference?

[bold bear]

it's always myth track weapon if you don't have one already right?

[fickle cedar]

there's like 2 necks in m+, rolling it is kinda big, also mechano isn't as insane as before (still decent)

[warm crag]

Me when i kill the 2 hardest bosses in the tier in 2 weeks

[pulsar quest]

no 2 weeks is just how long until i get benched

for dying

[warm crag]

King24

[calm mantle]

Shame to lose avoidance but you right myth neck is huge

[oblique trail]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-cat-meme-smack-hit-gif-14682331153624420698

[clever belfry]

cant wait to log my alt to play my offspec to kill the last 2 bosses

we love the funny kick healer

[kind mantle]

W vault tbh

[frigid temple]

shoulder and eye are equal for both arms and fury

idk what I take

[fickle cedar]

shoulder saves you a cata charge as well, up to you

[frigid temple]

yea taking myth shoulders itll make me 3/4 Myth tier just leaving legs

taking into account the charge from today

[fickle cedar]

then go for them I think, it's better long term than a 658 kezan

[oblique trail]

That's not just a 658 Kezan, it's a Hero track

[frigid temple]

yea

[fickle cedar]

yeah I know I just don't think it's that worth

[frigid temple]

fury left arms right

[marble pilot]

Kinda mid vault for me but I did finally finish 4 set. We mostly ignore it right? Just kinda happens in the background?

[chilly fractal]

ok... time to be disappointed

[warm crag]

Owie

[odd whale]

did 2x 3am delves last night and was rewarded with hero track mechano, but mythic tier helm is the last slot I need for full mythic, and the belt is decent too

but I also got a champ mechano last night from the delve

[chilly fractal]

First boss drops a Mythic Helm

[oblique trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/711337973274378270/1351661979298697226/ezgif-12920d43fa19c4.gif

[chilly fractal]

Next week 678 Weapon for suuuuure

[tame gorge]

Mister Lock and Stock is simming highing then Torq's Big red Button, which is wild to me

I got to press that trinket every 20 seconds. I might have to macro it with Rampage, RB, and BloodThirst just to get rid of that annoyance.

[soft merlin]

We tak the wep 10 out of 10 times irght?

[jolly quail]

Heroic Eye of Kezan or Socket? (Already have heroic pacemaker and mechano core) how many mythic fights in raid are 5m+ and actually better with eye of Kezan?

[smoky vale]

all

?????

[chilly fractal]

What?

[smoky vale]

good for prog

[chilly fractal]

What are you doing?

[robust basin]

Trash

[tame gorge]

The mister Lock-and-Stalk's on use cooldown is 20 seconds. Just annoyed that I'll have to either press that or macro it in with my abilities. In short, i'm just being lazy

[outer umbra]

Why is that wild

[chilly fractal]

You don’t do that… at all

[warm crag]

Me when i dont read the trinket

[chilly fractal]

It’s a passive trinket

The on use just swaps it from ST to Cleave and back again

[quaint stag]

Do your delve first with the map activated before taking the trinket from vault

[thin kelp]

With the BT crit tracker WA I noticed its not flashing up as much in execute phase (No VC), are we not sending BT on 4ish stacks during execute phase, does the value drop?

[tame gorge]

I'm going by the wowhead description. https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/bis-gear

[pulsar quest]

brother do not

switch up lock n stalk

every 20 seconds

the on use switches between ST and AoE

[gilded pawn]

This is some cursed shit

[pulsar quest]

the ONLY fight i switched it that often was stix

[chilly fractal]

If you want to be a true lazy man… just leave it ST

[pulsar quest]

and u dont even have to do that im just a loser

[chilly fractal]

And forget about it

[robust basin]

Is AOE lock n stalk any good? I thought we just left it as ST

[pulsar quest]

it got buffed

its pretty good now

[tame gorge]

Did they change what this trinket does recently? I could've sworn.

Forget I mentiuoned anything.

[gilded pawn]

Have not changed

[nimble kraken]

Are we still supposed to get bullions?

[pulsar quest]

Better to post in here and find out through us than use it for 2 weeks and then figure it out

Now u know 👍

[feral ivy]

anyone have a issue where their weekly undermine quest not showing up? yes i have signed a contract

[odd whale]

yeah but i'm probably 1-2 plate users behind on the helm, so we'll see. Guess it depends what they got from vault too

[chilly fractal]

Just saying you could wait for raid before picking

[tidal kindle]

https://tenor.com/vkRmeaVgMTN.gif

[versed siren]

Jastors diamond hero track or pacemaker myth track

[iron portal]

sim it

I would take trinke tthough

[versed siren]

Ya i will when im home just wanted some initial thoughts

I am leaning towards trinket too

[iron portal]

you know what, actually i would just take trinke

t

fuck thinkng

Easier to get ring than myth track trinket that doesnt suck

[fickle cedar]

big pacemaker

the pool is massive and there's not a lot of good m+ trinkets

[iron portal]

classy

[near temple]

Should I do Lock N Stalk or Core Amplifier, both are hero track
https://i.gyazo.com/ee86adb020bb3a4ce8bc6c79de0498b2.png

[warm crag]

big red button angle

[clever belfry]

garbageman

[near temple]

🥹

[clever belfry]

please do not pick that

[coarse nest]

Take mechano just in time for the extra nerf

[keen kindle]

Is red button good?

[coarse nest]

Can’t wait for my third delve slot (not max ilvl) to have the mechano in it

[versed siren]

Lock n stalk

After the mechano nerf

[near temple]

Oooh, was Mechano nerfed?

[hushed oyster]

is mechano not good to take if you already have pacemaker and house of cards?

[fickle cedar]

if they are all the same ilvl then no it's not worth it as much anymore

[quiet breach]

bro bro bro bro bro

my fucking

vault is nuts

hold on

sending ss

i think i take wep here because i dont think i will ever kill mythic OAB or gallywix

but the neck is insane

fuck

[clever belfry]

whats ur delve vault

[quiet breach]

literally nothing

i did 0 delves

xd

[clever belfry]

L

no ratfang = no W

[fickle cedar]

ratfang propaganda!

[clever belfry]

its always ratfang angle

[quiet breach]

ok but fr

do i take the one that simms higher or just take the wep

cuz its a wep

i have crafted wep and 665 electro arm bludgeoner

so i would be putting 678 electro arm bludgeneor in mainhand and crafted in offhand

i think

[sullen dove]

ya

[junior gale]

sim and make an educated decision based on that

[fickle cedar]

always sim but the weapon is gonna be the highest anyway, at the same time, there's like 10 weapons in the pool, and only one good neck for us in m+, I still would go weapon tho

also free upgrade

[quiet breach]

i have a trial for a guild literally today

ok hold on ima stop typing her and run the sim

lol im hyped i got a good vault

[odd whale]

in my 666 ilvl, hero mech trinket beats pacemaker and lock-n-stock by 10k (all 665)

[quiet breach]

my neck is trash tho

[eternal sundial]

Short term vs long term uppie

[fickle cedar]

kinda crazy tbh, since the changes mechano ain't that insane with my setup, could be a gear thing

[fickle cedar]

if it was pacemaker I would have taken it instead of weapon, but for the neck I'm not sure

if you play long term then I think neck is better, you're probably not gonna see it again in vault

[odd whale]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ftvTmbdsofTqSfg1NiJSVT I upgraded the mythic items I have access to and trinkets to 665, this is what it shows.

[fiery flame]

wait i thought HC BiS was better than M weapon? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1sftC5pErY5B8TwoD585W5

is that correct

[sullen dove]

its not

m weapon ilvl more important

[quiet breach]

new wep is +54k, new neck is +52k... surely the keg is the winner here right?

[fiery flame]

i see, ty

[quiet breach]

or like

[sullen dove]

tho it does seem pretty small difference

[quiet breach]

maybe cuz i can easily get the hero keg the difference would be much smaller

lemme sim the hero keg difference

[edgy widget]

never has been

[eternal sundial]

That's like arms + embell pov for it being even to crafted iirc

[thorny oar]

Hello on Stix my guild is asking me to hardswap on crabmaster I would like to know if there is a big lose dps if I hard swap and lose my frenzy x4 on boss ?

[winter shoal]

Tell them it's ranged dps job not yours

But yeah you'll lose damage, you gotta do what you gotta do to kill the boss though

[odd whale]

there are 1-2 crabs that you'll be able to cleave onto if the tanks move properly

[eternal sundial]

It's more less if u dont finish prog

Suck it up and do it ig

[fickle cedar]

i think he means scrapmaster

[eternal sundial]

Crab sounds cooler

[fickle cedar]

true

[covert blaze]

time for crab

[sullen dove]

giga crabmaster

those should actually die on their own tho and need no focusing

[thorny oar]

hey it s my trend !

[sullen dove]

focusing crabs makes more sense since they're way more all over the place and actually cause wipes

so idk if focusing crabs i say yes but if they actually want scrapmaster focus that is just a little troll

kick them and they walk into melee and just explode

[indigo arch]

Picking a socket this early in season is great

I love World of Warcraft :))))))))

[eternal sundial]

Tbf it can be

[quiet breach]

wait, you lose dps if u swap targets as fury?

[sullen dove]

youd lose dps on any class but yea you lose frenzy if you rampage something else

which is a couple % of haste

[winter shoal]

8% innit

[sullen dove]

yea

idk like it feels bad sure dont think its like insanely detrimental to do it a few times every so often

in like m+ its more of a joke tho with how often u needa target swap

[thorny oar]

It s not like fire mage I know but I feel losing a lot of gcds to getting back this frenzy stacks

[sullen dove]

yer

[indigo arch]

wish frenzy was removed for something else

feels horrid having something in need of focus and then only giving 3/4 globals into it to keep frenzy stacks

[quiet breach]

gonna do a few cinderbrews and see if i get rescue keg

if i dont have it before raid tonight i take neck

if i do i take wep

[indigo arch]

(in the off chance it isn't already targetted)

[quiet breach]

:dab:

[covert blaze]

hello sormish

[sullen dove]

myello zblai

[covert blaze]

you should take weapon

[quiet breach]

wep is 54k dps increase neck is 52k dps increase, i have a trial tonight

yes thats how ass my neck is

[dire vigil]

I have a 678 weapon already and 675 ascension , but could take 2nd 678 wep for when I switch to 2x dusk next week or take the bis arms ring

[quiet breach]

well ig my trash neck isnt upgraded fully

my neck has 4.5k crit and 2.2k vers

lol

[sullen dove]

big arm neck

[quiet breach]

dont play arms tho

[chrome relic]

thank you vault gods

[radiant sentinel]

helm is the play here, right? has leech

[fickle cedar]

yeah cata that shit

[radiant sentinel]

that's what i was thinking

[chilly tulip]

what is better fury or arms in m+

[sullen dove]

fury for staying alive and bosses/smaller pulls arms for dungeons with a lot more giga uncapped

you can run either in whatever u want for like normal 10's and stuff but higher pushing is when you maybe wanna think about what youre playin where

like fury i think is just the goat in TOP whereas playing anythin but arms in cinderbrew is

(subjective anyway)

also in those higher groups depends on which specs youre playin with

[indigo arch]

Fury feels mid every top I do

[sullen dove]

decent chance they bring way more aoe than arms so you dont rly need to play arms as much

[indigo arch]

Somehow I beat uncapped specs in darkflame though

and I don't get it

[sullen dove]

powerful

but yea i just mean top is like almost every pack is under 5 targets

[gilded pawn]

Don’t forget a 3 target cleave boss

[sullen dove]

i think that grey area between 3-5 targets hard to say which spec beats out. arms with a demolish would def burst higher but think generally fury sustains harder

real

u mean 4 target

[gilded pawn]

Real

[sullen dove]

me when ram guy blows up the squad

[gilded pawn]

I keep forgetting about the rogue

Cuz the rogue wasn’t working for half of shadowlands

[sullen dove]

what rogue

[hardy shuttle]

The old 4th boss you needed to cc

[sullen dove]

o maybe vaguely remember that

the 4th target i was meanin was the ram trash before boss

[hardy shuttle]

Ye. I had the world's fastest bricked 14 when a dev evoker rescued our healer through the frontal there last night

[fair swallow]

feels good getting a myth track weapon from vault

[wind flax]

Guys recklless abandon vs anger managment?

[marble schooner]

couldnt raid M with the guild last week so got only heroic slots but I guess it was worth it

[coarse nest]

@edgy widget please tell me you vault weapon!?

[summer quail]

anger management in all content

[edgy widget]

lmao no

[coarse nest]

FFF

https://tenor.com/view/dead-my-honest-reaction-damn-skull-skeleton-gif-15885937969029652188

[edgy widget]

I mean technically yes, but the wrong weapon xD

[coarse nest]

Next week “surely”

[edgy widget]

I'm sure Stix will drop a weapon this week

[fickle cedar]

big pants tho

[coarse nest]

🙏

[edgy widget]

already got big pants

[fickle cedar]

big belt tho ?

[edgy widget]

ilevel yes, stats kinda just eh

technically H Slots is my best pick right now, though not the best long-term choice

belts overtake if I sink currency into them though

[versed siren]

Is cyrces circlet really still bis? Or is that only when you have jastors diamond, it never beats my two hero rings when i sim it

[outer umbra]

Grats on ring

[feral ivy]

raider.io site lol

[sullen dove]

There’s like

6 birds

[marble schooner]

thanks man

[barren dagger]

is it redundant to have a haste on use trinket? just feels ass when i use it with lust

[modest condor]

yeah does kinda nothing during lust

[atomic fog]

is mountain thane still the way to go on m+ ? I feel like arms is taking over ?

[fading bane]

Arms is just better for M+

[low folio]

arms is bigger number

[fading bane]

but if u wanna play fury then go Thane

[sharp wadi]

Is this damage breakdown for raid generally correct in ST? This was on normal gally just to see where I sat

[dire vigil]

Any opinions on this decision? 2nd 678 weapon for when I swap off of ascension to 2x dusk or take the myth BIS arms ring

[quiet breach]

how many different 2handers can u get from the dungeon section of the vault?

[dire vigil]

Several, this is the best dungeon slot wep for arms though, I have the high vers one from cinderbrew currently

[quiet breach]

i was more asking for myself

[dire vigil]

Mostly play fury though but I want to push keys later in the season, which will be an arms angle

[quiet breach]

because im deciding between strapped keg and electro bludgeoner

theres only 1 strapped keg

but theres a bunch of 2handers

[dire vigil]

Do you have a 678 weapon?

[quiet breach]

and strapped keg is only 2k less dps

[quiet breach]

no, i have crafted wep and 665 electro bludgeoner

but my neck is giga trash

[dire vigil]

Take the weapon

You can farm a neck

[quiet breach]

so even tho taking the wep is only a marginal dps increase, you still think the fact i can farm the hero version of it outweighs that?

[dire vigil]

Yes

I’d also check some sims. For me the 658 Mugzee neck was better than even a 665 cinderbrew neck

[feral quartz]

blessed with 2 myth weps

[quiet breach]

ok FUCK IT

im taking the weapon

no more thinking

this is driving me insane and i need to be done with it

[quiet breach]

is that mugzee neck

[feral quartz]

nah cindy b

[ruby badge]

How was the 678 wep that marginal. For me going from 675 crafter and 665 Capitol punisher to 678/675 was almost 100k dps

[quiet breach]

cuz my neck is super ass

mostly crit lol

its ok tho i dont wanna talk about it anymore

i picked the wep

the last thing i want is to regret my decision

[dire vigil]

Nah you’re good. Max level wep is highest priority

[quiet breach]

no it was a huge upgrade

but like

so is the neck

is what im saying

neck is only slightly less

but its harder to get

at least max version of it is harder to get

AHHHH im closing this discord b4 any of u fuckers make me regret it

i hate this part of wow bro

[rapid forge]

NOOO DONT BRO

[rare garnet]

You made the right decision. Be blessed in the knowledge of your great decision making. Take the afternoon to revel in your magnificence away from the discord.

[tepid solar]

How bad is Emberbrand zweihander? Got it in mythic in my vault, doesn't have mastery.

Sims 1.6 percent higher fully upgraded

Either that or mythic hands for a 0.6 percent increase

[rare garnet]

All I know is I’m taking the extra 1% dps today instead of worrying if I’m slightly more optimized 6 weeks from now.

But you could sim all the weapons to compare how they stack up.

[thorny cove]

hmm everything kinda sucks... chest is an upgrade hero over champion and cloak has avoidance but it's worst stats right?

[feral ivy]

anyone know about the raid buff we getting the self res.. is it going to stack every30mins, is it 1 every 30mins per raid or per person

[sullen dove]

Imagine every 30 per person

be weird if it stacked

But like can kinda alleviate need to ss healers now

Each healer takes a rez and if wiping more than 4 times in 30m dps rez instead

[marble pilot]

I just thought it was an out of combat soulstone for everyone. Just to make wipe recovery not suck as much

[sullen dove]

Will proly need a weak aura to not insta take it when available tho lol

yea pretty much that

[marble pilot]

Finished my 4 set with vault. We kinda just ignore it and let it happen right?

[sullen dove]

ya

[marble pilot]

In high rage scenarios do you make sure to use before before rampaging again or no?

[sullen dove]

The bt buff I think gives u crit rate but so long as u have the weak aura that also tracks blood craze its still same shtick

use what

[marble pilot]

Maybe I misread it. I thought it gave a buff to raging blow or bloodthirst. Sometimes Ill do 2 rampages without a bloodthirst. If it gives bloodthirst buff do I make sure to consume it before the next rampage. Or still only bloodthirst when blood craze is high enough.

[warm crag]

you don't care aobut the tier set at all this way it is usually resolved optimally by just playing the rotation correctly

[sullen dove]

Yea raging blow you just hit all the time anyway and bt buff is just baked into the weak aura that tells you when to hit it

at like 85%ish crit or something outside of execute vc range

[warm crag]

bloodthirst conditional is crit % based and that is affected by the bloodthirst tier set but a good weakaura solves this for u

[marble pilot]

Great thanks. I like not having to think about it too much. And I do have the updated weakaura.

Seems like all it will do is make bloodthirst get pressed a bit more often. As the crit threshold will be reached more often.

[warm crag]

ye

[marble pilot]

Thanks again. I like to understand at least a little why im doing something. I dunno how much it matters but it feels better than just follow the priority list because reasons.

[thorny cove]

do we craft another piece next week?

[warm crag]

i don't you might wanna

it is a question for simulationcraft

[versed siren]

So during execute phase, should you use bloodthirst on cd?

[sullen dove]

i think its basically on cd, or maybe like after 1 raging blow or something

dont remember precise yap but it is much more frequently yea

[formal stump]

Little upset. nothings really an upgrade. Ravenous Honey Buzzer seems interesting tho.

House of cards also seems decent just a big ilvl loss

May be better then the Toxic fang I have

Opinions?

[slate sun]

Okay, can anyone else not press rampage?

[winter shoal]

do you have 2 weapons equipped

[winter shoal]

is that bottom left a 1h

[slate sun]

Yep

[formal stump]

unfortunately

[winter shoal]

are they repaired?

[winter shoal]

always be in arms loot spec, especially when opening vault

Same loot tables but arms can't get 1h

[slate sun]

Yep, i could press every other button plus rampage, i could click it but my bind wasnt working

relogging didnt help

[formal stump]

That makes a difference?

[winter shoal]

Arms vs fury loot spec? Yes

The only reason to ever be in fury loot spec is if you play prot and want to get dps trinkets

But if you play dps, you should always be in arms loot spec to only ever get 2h

[formal stump]

fak wish Id known

and the bottom left is a 2h, but its not an upgrade

[near wing]

It’s not, I got it on mythic track, terrible

[formal stump]

Feel im just gonna grab the 1h for prot at this point.

[formal stump]

debating the house of cards also

I dunno. sad week for loot

[near wing]

😕 sorry man, I know that feeling all too well

[past pivot]

Can’t help when picking 1handers but you can sim Vault items to see if any are an upgrade.

[plush zephyr]

I wouldn’t be upset really. At that ilvl if your raiding or doing m+ it’ll likely get replaced quite quickly.

[formal stump]

Not raiding and I try mythics here and there with guild. Highest ive done in S1 was a 6 and so far S2 just a 4

So I take an upgrade when I get it

And hope vault and Delves are nice to me

[rocky hemlock]

why is the aplifier trinket simming higher than the pacemaker if bloodmallet is saying pacemaker is better?

[winter shoal]

Because bloodmallet doesn't know what gear your character has

Bloodmallet is just a sim run on someone else's character

(specifically the simc template character that doesn't actually exist)

[plush zephyr]

I’ve never used bloodmallet

[formal stump]

I use raidbots sim. I dont see an Sim for vault option.

[plush zephyr]

Cause sims don’t lie

[rocky hemlock]

i dont ever 'only' use bloodmallet but i refenece it sometimes

[winter shoal]

In top gear, your vault options should be selectable with a "GV" badge icon

[rocky hemlock]

it just feels bad to tak hero track aplifier over mythic trac tier

[formal stump]

I see thanks

[winter shoal]

Depending on the tier piece you probably won't replace it, but you probably will replace hero amp at some point. The short- and long-term implications of either of those are up to you to weigh against each other though

[formal stump]

Sim thing is still a new concept for me. My hardcore days we just went from word of mouth and physically testing things. But there are so much more loot options today then back in LK and Cata

[formal stump]

oh nice. literally compares whats actually in your vault.

[meager gyro]

well I fell into open grave at cemetery on the way to visit my late wife. The plus side I'm coming into some money. The sad side I now have to play WoW with you losers much longer everyday.
So, I did some log research and we are actually still competitive with our glorious target cap. Is fury key pushing worth my time since I can't move my leg???

Would you main fury if you wanted to aim for highest io you've ever achieved, or would you just reroll UDK to make season easier?

[winter shoal]

Sorry that happened to you bud, hope you're doing okay

Fury is fine for pushing but arms is equal or better in most dungeons. UDK will have an easier time pugging for sure

[modest condor]

🙃

[radiant plank]

Fury is dead

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1170378356588552214/1356721015639507144/Screenshot_2025-03-31_172432.png?ex=67ed9868&is=67ec46e8&hm=15eeec82903ee22e693a3cc29260d0f6b1e7fa0fabed66e74b5cfcf155332eb4&

[formal stump]

I havnt actually leveled my blacksmithing. Is there still a add a socket to belt or bracer option?

[bitter palm]

dont read my name

[radiant plank]

i dont speak serbian

[bitter palm]

unlucky

[sullen dove]

do not eat the mccat

[winter shoal]

Everyone in that key asleep at the wheel or?

[sullen dove]

fav gif

pat rickstar

[thick elbow]

fury aoe is fn garbage this season. do you think blizzard will notice that since our st in good

[quiet breach]

ayyyy just got strapped rescue keg

with speed on it too

[fading sky]

Its not garbage

[quiet breach]

from this nightmare +7 with 3 wipes

[thick elbow]

for any dungeon that has big pulls it is

[quiet breach]

i had to hold back my frustration cuz i knew it was just dad gamers in a +7

[thick elbow]

this capped aoe is getting old

[fading sky]

Its not great

I mean problem isnt the cap

As much as our 2 good aoe abilities arent good atm

Roar and of desperately needs a buff

[thick elbow]

i mean every dungeon besides theater is pull of 6 or more we are just getting gapped in aoe.

[fading sky]

Dno man what keys u run

But unless u do higher keys its rly a non issue

[thick elbow]

cinderbrew and prioriy at 13+

[fading sky]

Prio dmg and st makes up for it

It is frustrating for certain. Issue isnt meat cleaver target cap

[thick elbow]

is the 200-300k on prio and boss target make up for the dmg over the course of the dungeon

we dont gap st as much as we get gapped on aoe is what i mean

[queen panther]

^

[fading sky]

Is killing small shitter mobs

Worth it for timing

?

[queen panther]

DH be doing both hella good funnel damage and aoe 💀

[thick elbow]

if i was a million ahead on bosses and a mil behind on aoe that would make sense. but uncapped classes are doing 10-15mil while im lucky to hit 7-9 mil

[meager gyro]

looks like noxiv is doing fine in overall. Obviously as the key goes up the overall becomes better, but he doing fine.

[fading sky]

Ye so they are tuned slightly better

[fading sky]

This

[queen panther]

Noxiv is just built different

Sooo

[meager gyro]

noxiv runs a comp that helps his overall and they probably don't run the exact same pulls as the meta routes to make the group work. Wox as outlaw usually and having monk/bear buffs

[thick elbow]

the point im making is why are some classes capped still. like a unholy dk isnt doing that much less st in dungeons but there aoe is 2-3x better

[pulsar quest]

It’s kinda over exaggerated imo

[meager gyro]

it's the season of the dots (ele shaman the exception)

[pulsar quest]

I’ve only really seen like 3 MAYBE 4 classes really gap me in aoe

DK, Shaman, Dev

Sometimes boomy

But I’m doing 14-16m on pulls with cds so idk what’s going on that you guys are hitting only 7m

Are you playing around collateral damage properly?

[thick elbow]

im fury bud wrong channel

[pulsar quest]

Fury just never expect to hit over 6-7 in the first place it’s out of the equation

The conversation is pointless about fury

[left perch]

my aoe is much lower (so is my ilvl (and skill))

[pulsar quest]

It’s called

Capped*

There’s absolutely nothing you can do about it

If you want high aoe pulls play arms

If you want good funnel play fury

Don’t click that

lol

[feral ivy]

am i thinking this right we get half spark 1 week and next we get cata and then next we get the other have spark ... or is it half spark per week? i feel like i am missing something

[queen panther]

Half spark per week

Cata every two weeks

[quiet breach]

just confirming, i can get heroic jastor diamond/heroic eye of kezan and stuff from cache of undermine treasures?

[fading sky]

U are warriir so no

[compact knot]

normal since its a normal cache

but last week you could since it was heroic

[fading sky]

But ys lucky fuckin guldies can

[compact knot]

if i socket 658 crafted wrists, then upgrade them to 675 do i still keep the socket

i forgot

[fading sky]

Yes

[fickle cedar]

yeah, it's only from last season that you don't

[compact knot]

ok taking socket from my vault ty

[fading sky]

Only new spark resets

[compact knot]

W socket

[fading sky]

Sagde

When socket is best choice

[chrome summit]

agree xD just did a Motherload see other classes do 15kk and i get up to like 7 maybe. impossible catch up. as soon as they start do bigger pulls fall behind.

[compact knot]

the ring was only 6k better and i have a house of cards and myth chest piece to pgrade

[thorny cove]

is HoC better for mythic+ than seaforium?

[compact knot]

you have 2 slots so you prob use both, but id say its better cause its a onuse

[gleaming siren]

Ratfang angle

[compact knot]

i would if it was in there

3 wrists is kinda insanely dogshit lmao

[uneven lantern]

MT still better in M+?
andd what should i try to shoot for my haste?

[fading sky]

Sims

And yes

[compact knot]

mt better, do a 5m 5 target sim in a top gear and see what it tells you is best

there isnt really a specific amount of haste you shoot for

[clever belfry]

RATFANG ANGLE

[compact knot]

where the fuck is ratfang

[uneven lantern]

thx

[clever belfry]

he doesnt see it

he is not a ratfang believer

[jovial thicket]

is the mister lock-n-stalk trinket actually good for single target or just sim bait?

[gilded pawn]

It’s good

But it’s worse the better you are at the game

[fading sky]

It is as good as it sims

At least

[thorny cove]

guys should I choose cloak or tier chest? chest is a bigger sim upgrade short term (hero track over champion), but cloak is myth track

just ran the raid and no luck either

[restive peak]

You can get any M+ chest at 655 and cata it easily

We're past the point where you're gonna suddenly need your cata for 2 pces a week

[thorny cove]

I just used my cata on gloves so would be another 2 weeks before I can use it again

[royal copper]

I’m ilvl 662 - MT Fury.

—— Topping 8 mil AoE, isn’t that abit low?

I’m asking cause I’m often see others do around 15 mil. And im really trying to push is as much as possible.

M+ ( I’m fully aware we’re on. B tier list unfortunately)

[restive peak]

Do you not have 4pce if you're out of charges?

[thorny cove]

I do have 4 pc, just my chest is champ track

[restive peak]

I mean

I would take the item you can't get from M+

Before an item you can get from M+ at a higher ilvl

The chest is a bandaid

The cloak is potentially bis for awhile

[thorny cove]

isn't crit/vers worst stats tho? I guess I cata that eventually into crit/haste but meh

[restive peak]

You have 4pce, it might be a bigger temp upgrade but the cloak may last deep into the tier if you don't see another myth track 1

I mean we are overloaded w stats, a simple ring/neck/enchant/gem swap can make the cloak an upgrade

[thorny cove]

the only saving grace tho is the cloak has avoidance

[restive peak]

That is also a nice bonus

[thorny cove]

which is kinda big

also for invites sake, higher ilvl might help

wanna just get 3k already but might be rough get 13s done as fury

[fading sky]

Nah

[torpid crater]

dw I'm around 8-9 Mil like you

[summer quail]

what stats does a catalyzed cloak have?

[thorny cove]

crit/haste

[wispy cape]

is mythic electro-arm bludgeoner > every heroic 2h?

[thorny cove]

fook it guess i'll get cloak

[quiet breach]

how many valorstones do u get from a +10

[thorny cove]

just feels so shitty I had to use my cata charge cuz I have 4 kills on cauldron and have yet to see a single zenith tier token drop just said fuck it and used my new charge this week

[tepid cedar]

Don’t wanna be negative sally but crafted with ascendance + wrist embelishment it’s a pretty significant increase over 2 678

[fading sky]

No?

[snow edge]

What if he has 2 crafted Vers embellishments though??

[tepid cedar]

An nm you have a crafted belt

[fading sky]

Then he gucci i presume?0

[tepid cedar]

Yea

Min/max purposes I think belt is a slot you can get a better/more suited stat distribution. If going that hard makes ppl happy

But nothing significant.

lol mister is soo good in ST. I used the shit last night over kezan and went full ST on one arm and almost finished at 2.8m overall

678 mister might be the ST go to

[keen dove]

i mean it does like 35 40m damage no?

how good can it be

[wispy cape]

Is it even a consideration to not take weapon here?

Have crafted weapon and heroic circuit breaker.

[pulsar quest]

Yeah mythic weapon

If you have 1 heroic still

[solemn timber]

So, am I supposed to be dooming about fury right now?

[remote bobcat]

what? why?

fury is in a solid spot, we're really strong but not broken

[solemn timber]

groupe dwith uncapped classes i feeel like a little baby

[remote bobcat]

ah you're another target-cap doom yapper

fury is fine bro

and warrior has arms available

[willow cradle]

Eh T-clap and T-blast could use a lil tune up since it fell behind RB, BT and Rampage after the changes.

[remote bobcat]

hard disagree

not being able to pad doesn't mean we're unable to perform

and if blizz gives us these buffs

then we end up too strong

in some way

with your suggested buffs, we'd dominated stix and one-armed bandit mythic while also competing with arms in aoe pulls - while having one of the best boss-damage profiles in the game

[keen dove]

buff odyns fury already

[vocal gazelle]

I just want a lust

[remote bobcat]

now that i agree with

warrior should probably have a warcry bl

[quiet breach]

take lust from mage and give it to warrior

[willow cradle]

Yes I'm certain Fury would overshadow other classes on those two bosses because of a small tune up. Adds already die fast enough if your raid group is decent. There are already some Slayer logs on both fights, one of the stix one has significantly more boss damage than any thane log.

[remote bobcat]

mythic, not heroic

they dont die fast

[willow cradle]

I am speaking abou mythic

[remote bobcat]

"go slayer"

arms goes colossus on bandit in order to slap adds

lolol

Why are you suddenly so quiet Tinderbeef

[willow cradle]

Because you're obviously trying to instigate here and I'm not gonna waste my time with that.

[remote bobcat]

I'm merely presenting you with very clear information that slayer is, in fact, not that good on both stix and bandit mythic

while following that up with some light

well.

Light flame.

shrug

[royal copper]

Okay ☹️ ohh well our time will come… hopefully

[willow cradle]

If your only concern is parsing sure, but if your raid already enough aoe damage your best option is Slayer for prio boss damage.

[remote bobcat]

that is not a thing that exists

those two fights entirely depend on your ability to kill adds

You can argue that slayer will be fine once everyone reaches maxed out 678 ilvl, but that argument is void

[willow cradle]

It's perfectly fine now

[remote bobcat]

Not on mythic stix and bandit, no

idk man you're just saying things with no knowledge to back it up, I feel

The win conditions on those fights arent boss damage

at all

not even a tiny bit

[rigid stirrup]

Claiming one thing and the top logs saying something diff are my fav discussions fr fr

[remote bobcat]

"I raid heroic where slayer performs fine so it must also be true in mythic"

[willow cradle]

Explain the multitude of Slayer logs? Were those all flukes?
Worse does not mean unusable lmao

[rigid stirrup]

You play to the win con

If you're one of the outliers then grats but there's a higher chance that you don't fit into the category and should just stick to whatever isn't grieving the raid/best for prog

[royal copper]

I tested Arms… it’s soo SLOW and boring! Almost like playing ret pala without casting spells.

[remote bobcat]

Slayer damage on Stix comes from padding on the hyenas, which you kill with your buffed bladestorm through slayer talents. That's how slayer gets an acceptable parse (which is still significantly worse than thane). The relevant damage is on Bombshells and Scrapmasters, which slayer fury doesn't do as well against as thane. They have a shitton of hp and they are prio aoe targets that take long to kill. It's Thane's strongsuit.
On Bandit, theres one (1) singular slayer log. Fuck do i know what went wrong with him to go slayer on bandit lmao.

the slayer one-armed bandit log in question:

facepalm

[rigid stirrup]

I like this kronzo guy coming in w da heaters

[remote bobcat]

im a professional yapper

[pulsar quest]

One armed is definitely a fight that entirely depends on what your comp needs

There’s also a lot of private logs

But stix

Is definitely a thane fight

[remote bobcat]

killing bandit only depends on killing adds, the execute phase is fake asf

[pulsar quest]

Slayer fury is probably the least likely to be needed tbh

[remote bobcat]

^

[pulsar quest]

Like just player slayer arms then

And have a banger execute

[remote bobcat]

if you really "need" execute phase damage, then go arms

but like

its the adds

bandit is an add-prio fight

or u wipe

[royal copper]

Raiding compared to M+ 🤪. 😭😢 actually sad

[pulsar quest]

Do you have m+ set to points or to damage

[remote bobcat]

set m+ to damage, not points

[royal copper]

Oh hold on… let me check actually

Never knew that was a thing…

[pulsar quest]

Haha most people don’t to be fair

I don’t blame you

[pulsar quest]

Still not bad!

[royal copper]

Alright I just have to make my own logs it seems like?

[pulsar quest]

That’s definitely an option

[royal copper]

Those are only recorded logs.. perfect was scared for a sec

[scenic cosmos]

arent parses just however high the key level youve done

[royal copper]

I’ll record my own

[remote bobcat]

is it possible that you havent understood slayer conditions that well yet? I dont see how you get a blue vexie and green sprocket otherwise

unless u died ofc

[royal copper]

Only done 12 key haven’t pushed yet

[royal copper]

I died 🤪

[fervent yoke]

Im still raiding heroic but not fully sure what fights i should stay fury for and go arms for its neck and neck every week save for cauldron and stix 🤔

mugzee is arms too right

[pulsar quest]

On heroic honestly play whatever you’re better at

[remote bobcat]

cauldron is an arms fight. Mugzee u can play both but arms has the better execute phase

regardless

[royal copper]

I don’t like raiding as much, mainly going there pug HC to grab a trinket or two

[remote bobcat]

you will perform best on what ur comfortable on

[fervent yoke]

true true thanks yall

[pulsar quest]

You shouldn’t really hit any dps checks or anything so just play whatever you like on heroic

The more fun you have the better you will perform

And when in doubt upload a log to #1347646810457636974

[remote bobcat]

dps checks are real in average groups

[pulsar quest]

Yeah I guess you could potentially

I’m just thinking with the stacking buff

[remote bobcat]

i mean yea dmg checks are only real during prog

when avg groups prog heroic

[hollow leaf]

Does barbaric training apply to tc?

[remote bobcat]

type shii

[remote bobcat]

yes

[hollow leaf]

BearNotes

[remote bobcat]

generally ability "upgrades" like tclap > tblast or bloodthirst > bloodbath use the same modifiers

[split coyote]

anyone got the sim strings to sim all the foods?

[whole yacht]

oops

[lucid thorn]

damn it I wanted the virus

[remote bobcat]

man why do u have to be NA

why arent u EU

Sadge

[whole yacht]

im confused

why do you want me to be EU

[remote bobcat]

cause then we can play

[whole yacht]

oh

i mean

the ping isnt terrible for me

when i play EU

only like 100

which isnt ideal. but not terrible

[remote bobcat]

but also

[chilly fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/chernobyl-not-great-not-terrible-average-gif-14312851

[remote bobcat]

i have a 5% bias against NA players

[whole yacht]

im not a normal american

i hate americans too

[remote bobcat]

ok?

i dont hate americans

[whole yacht]

oh

i mean

theres a lot of rude americans

so i just kinda assumed you did when you said you had a bias against NA players

also

whats the item to add sockets

i forgot

[remote bobcat]

magnificent jeweler's socket

i think?

[wispy cape]

setting*

[remote bobcat]

setting

ye

mbmb

[wispy cape]

Did mr. lock n stock get buffed? It's simming higher than viscera signet and reverb for me now wasnt last week

[whole yacht]

word. thanks

[whole yacht]

yes

[remote bobcat]

im just biased against NA players because of the lack of common knowledge that you find literally everywhere else in the world

[whole yacht]

except azralon

[spare steppe]

mythic gloves or heroic house of cards? Were unlikely to ever kill mythic OAB

[whole yacht]

but thats such a fair statement overall. a lot of people in pugs over here are brain dead

[remote bobcat]

ask robot

[whole yacht]

ask raidbots, but also. what are you current trinkets?

[spare steppe]

robot is going to say gloves due to 678 ilvl (ans it does). Trinket is champion house of cards and energy drink

[remote bobcat]

I mean i am saying bias against NA players but the reasoning applies to most north and south americans

not just wow players

type shii

[spare steppe]

sims 0.9 vs 0.3 at max, which is expected

[whole yacht]

i hate american drivers.

[plush zephyr]

After years of playing arms and never touching fury. I’m going to raid as a fury tonight 🫡

[whole yacht]

90% of them cant drive

[remote bobcat]

americans dont learn to drive

[spare steppe]

just gloves are easier to obtain

[whole yacht]

good choice

[plush zephyr]

Shit feels weird man

Let’s gooo

[whole yacht]

your rotation is 3 buttons

you got this

[plush zephyr]

I CAN HAVE TWOOOOOO WAAAPONS?

[whole yacht]

you NEED 2 weapons brother.

[wispy cape]

you need two weapons

haha

[plush zephyr]

Thank you brothers

[wispy cape]

Im surprised after mechano core nerf champion is still simming higher than all my HC trinkets

[remote bobcat]

in my country you need a minimum of 12 hours of active driving under a driving instructor (usually closer to 30 hours in metropolises) while also taking multiple theoretical classes or else you wont be able to apply for a difficult driving test, with very high standards which you need to pass

[plush zephyr]

Idc that the vexie trinket isn’t good

[remote bobcat]

meanwhile america:

[verbal garden]

Holy Jeebus UH DK pump

[plush zephyr]

It hoping around dumping oil on people

Is fucking awesome

[whole yacht]

thats good. more driving tests need to have stricter requirements to take and pass

[plush zephyr]

Is it good actually? Idk I don’t look at lists at all

I just sim what I get

[whole yacht]

i took 20 hours of lessons under an instructor when i was 15 before i even took any test

[remote bobcat]

(getting a license also costs anywhere from 2.5k to 4k here so people put in more effort to get it done 1st try)

[plush zephyr]

Finland?

[remote bobcat]

no

[whole yacht]

what is that in USD

[remote bobcat]

2.5k to 4k

?XD

[whole yacht]

oh

idk your currency man

idk where you live lol

[remote bobcat]

I specifically said numbers in usd

i guess i shoulda said that