#fury

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gleaming siren
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You either play Aff for doing basically full boss damage with good damage on adds or Destro to blow up far adds while losing 30-40% boss damage

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Depends a bit on comp

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If your comp is worse Destro is good, if you have 3 Warlocks 2 Shadows Aff mayb better but Destro has some very compelling arguments even then (easier to prog past hard add sets)

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Destro also does better vs the non-Assistant adds theoretically

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Banezi jumpscare

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But yea their comp kinda sucks but Destros hard carry Assistants

remote bobcat
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sup dawgs

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o shit its banezi log

gleaming siren
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Showcasing the Warlock tech

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(Simply have one of the best Warlock players on your roster)

halcyon python
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Gentlements, i am looking at my logs and compare it to others and i see that BT is sent way more often that i do, i have the crit chance weak aura shall i change it to the katching one here? As i am obviously sending it not often enough

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Or someone has some other to help knowing when to send it

next ruin
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Maybe they play vc and send it on cooldown during exec range. If you don't have the talent you will send way less bt's

halcyon python
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I play with vc

next ruin
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But if you have vc and don't prio bt during exec range, you might aswell not play vc

halcyon python
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Maybe im not sending it enough in execute

halcyon python
gleaming siren
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APL doesn't, Wowhead rotation suggests you should

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I think when I last checked the difference between sending at lower crit chance vs sending on CD always below 35% was very minimal

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I just have my WA switch from a visual alert at 85% to 40% below 35% when I play VC

halcyon python
hushed ocean
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most of the class wa pack already have it baked in

gleaming siren
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not really a standalone I can share beyond the whole icon WA

hushed ocean
gleaming siren
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Oh right that one does it too

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nvm then

warm crag
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Gio is Anda theory

remote bobcat
warm crag
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Its genuinely funny how bad warrior is on that fight

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But 1 bad fight in a Tier is not too bad

gleaming siren
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true

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I just have the luxury of my former onetrick class being insanely good on that fight

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and gearing being dummy easy for alts

warm crag
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Gg

gleaming siren
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shut up and spend your crests

warm crag
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I dont wanna

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I need to pick vault too

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I must open wowhead bis list

gleaming siren
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Pick champion track Bis waffe

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!

warm crag
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Schmidi pick my vaultus for me ty

gleaming siren
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it's just the ring no

warm crag
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Which one

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Both are on the wowhead archimtiros revvez gio galastronk anda m+ bis list

fading sky
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i just died on mugzhee

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what is goblin gun ?

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is that just add that enraged ? coz 9m

last sparrow
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nah its the boss

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i had it just after he does the spinny bs

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he just shot me

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while both tanks were alive

gleaming siren
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It likes to shoot people after intermission

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kinda random

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boss is a buggy mess of garbage wcyd

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happened to Liquid's warrior quite a lot too

remote bobcat
fading sky
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ok

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so thats why i got a 9m

tribal trout
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Hello guys im new to warr i want to learn the rotation for aoe and single target

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And will it change with 4set or will it be the same

granite crown
chrome plover
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that guy knows what's up

dense elbow
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Just wondering if I am out of touch or nah. Just took a look at the WoWhead article and it says Fury got some of the strongest AoE burst and AoE m+ damage in the game.

So, am I just sitting with a scuffed impression, or are Fury in actuality really strong

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If it ain't ST, my impression is that Fury is always just meh and behind.

wintry sundial
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Definitely depends on pull size

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Sustained AoE feels bad on anything more than 5 targets imo

proven hornet
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but fury has probably best st on dungeon build among all classes

plucky ice
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that feels good when others blast 30m aoe

dense elbow
plucky ice
iron portal
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first pull in ToP is so nice as warrior

dense elbow
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Todays, tierlist "deep" dive section

thick fossil
iron portal
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Meh

plucky ice
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cinder first room fury just feels useless lol

iron portal
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it feels nice and then you see ele doing triple your damage

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ToP you actually rock

dense elbow
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Ele is an outlier for sure tho. One of those that funnel and make your prio dam look bad too while blasting AoE

thick fossil
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Timed a 13 ToP last night

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As Arms. keks

wintry sundial
dense elbow
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So you would call it strong

wintry sundial
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Situationally strong. Overall I feel like arms is better.

thick fossil
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Fury 5 target cleave is not even the strongest in just 5 targets. Hence why there is so many complaints from us.

plucky ice
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it's not strong

dense elbow
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So what situation would you call Fury AoE strong, comparably?

I only feel useful on ST so far

wintry sundial
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Consistent small pulls like ToP

chrome plover
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idk if 'incredibly strong aoe' is the term i'd use

dense elbow
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I dont disagree with the placement. I wonder about the statement

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Cause when I use my AoE buttons, strong is not what I feel or AoE burst is not something I notice

chrome plover
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the next paragraph completely contradicts the first though

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There are a couple of issues that Fury Warriors have. The largest issue is the target cap, which doesn't allow Fury to truly excel the way they otherwise could. The other main problem is that their overall damage is just a hair behind some of the other top-tier options.

plucky ice
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hair behind

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ok LOL

wintry sundial
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Yeah that's cap

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I don't think fury is weak though its just kinda mid

dense elbow
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Mid I can agree with. But term is strong, as is why I ask.

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It is meh, for sure at worst. Gets the job done over time. Just not the tool for that job I would bring out if given the choice

wintry sundial
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Yeah like I said arms is just the play right now

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Press cleave to nuke pack

dense elbow
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Well, I am sure ppl will poke me later if they disagree. But currently my impression stands as Fury Warrior AoE in m+ being strong, to be a very charitable way of saying mid

earnest canyon
iron portal
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prob decent chunk ,more

earnest canyon
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the pulls are insanely huge

wintry sundial
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That's way too situational to answer

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Depends on the tank and how he pulls it

iron portal
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you wont time higher keys if you pull carefully anway

earnest canyon
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i just did one on huntard and I was at like 3.5million, but still got beat by a pala doing 3.8

wintry sundial
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Don't compare overalls with a paladin they're fuckin busted with 30 second wings

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And then divine storm spam from their tier set for uncapped AoE

lapis eagle
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everyone flames me for cinderbrew overall lol

earnest canyon
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hey i was just happy to beat the tank lmao....but i only play fury on warrior and prefer the gameplay to hunter by far

lapis eagle
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i mean i barely make 3.4m

iron portal
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They had it in last season and i could keep up with them

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So its not only about that

lapis eagle
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they pump 4.7+

earnest canyon
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damn

craggy river
wintry sundial
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That shit slaps in AoE

dense elbow
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Cinder is a place most I see do 4-6m DPS, while I sit around 4m. But, I dare them to show overalls without me there to crush the bosses for them

lapis eagle
wintry sundial
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Yeah who cares if you kill prio we need that droplet pad

earnest canyon
dense elbow
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655, the pig liver and heartbomb

earnest canyon
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lmao pig liver

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4m is decent for 655

dense elbow
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Ain't decent when my mates do 5m+ keks

earnest canyon
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yeah im always behind, but thats just life

dense elbow
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Is what it is tho, I could gain another 11% from talents

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I am just glad I got ppl who let me play for fun, at least till Fury gets some buffs/changes

torpid elbow
dense elbow
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Biggest problem is AoE CDs that been neutered to irrelevance in all but the most minute tiny of scenarios that only appear in raids

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I am sure in raids there are still adds that show up once a CD for 3-4 sec

plucky ice
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even then fury isn't that good anymore lol

earnest canyon
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I wish it was better on mass aoe, but I just enjoy the gameplay

rare garnet
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Reformed hunters United

torpid elbow
next ruin
edgy oasis
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Guys: So are we spamming raging blow after bladestorm even if rage capped? minimum 2 RB unless we get a reset could squeeze 3 in? ....in theory we are only using Rampage to keep enraged up...

eternal sundial
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Spam till no more rb

gleaming siren
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The buffs are multiplicative so juicing your Brutal Finish rampage has a lot of additional value

gleaming siren
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Quick maffs how does he do it

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Andus I have confirmed the 16.04. for my seminar

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am scared

clever belfry
gleaming siren
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If you want to

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Might be

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a crash and burn

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might not be

warm crag
gleaming siren
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Please dont

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If I crash and burn I just go apply to real jobs

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that's the lore

winter shoal
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Holy micro optimizations

winter shoal
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@edgy oasis you still use ramp to refresh enrage, but the RB brutal finish stacking is only like 0.4% anyways so really not worth worrying about

next ruin
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bigbowwl if i wanna try RA in m+, are there any cues to have ? according to wowhead i should spam cb and bb until im not enraged anymore, even in ST ?

thick fossil
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RA change is just so underwhelming. They didn't completely kill it, but it feels like they tried.

ancient olive
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You know with the set bonus, am I better just sending rampage asap or holding to cast 1 or 2 more builders even after I can rampage to potentially get a higher winning streak?

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Not like overcapping on rage or anything tho

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Is it worth it or not?

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Or do I just send rampage every time I can and hope it doesn’t end my winning streak

iron portal
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you dont play around your set tbh

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follow prio as always

ancient olive
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Nice good to know

winter shoal
next ruin
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any other big changes like this one ?

rustic mica
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Hey, i just got house of cards and was wondering how to use it, do i do on cooldown with avatar or only when i have avatar + Recklessness?

rustic mica
winter shoal
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I remember at one point there was a check for 2rb vs bb vs 1rb but idk if that's still there off the top of my head

sweet roost
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How much dps am I loosing by using this macro? Both in raid and m+.
#showtooltip Recklessness /use [combat] Best-in-Slots /use 14 /cast Recklessness /cast Avatar /cast Blood Fury /cast [@cursor, known:228920] Ravager; /cast [@cursor] Champion's Spear

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I imagine the first hit of Ravager is loosing out on damage due to not being enraged, but is there anything else?

hardy bluff
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just enrage before pressing it

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and you should be good

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just know you cant use ravager and spear together

pulsar quest
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You also can’t use BiS and trinket at the same time

sweet roost
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Enraging without Reck on pull takes too long. If i were to hold i'd loose damage on opener. I have either spear or ravager taken, never both. I use the spear for pvp only. The macro pops BiS first if it's off CD, so on pull. By the time Reck and Ravager/Bladestorm comes off CD I pop the macro to use the trinket along with them.

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Another downside i've noticed is having to wait for GCD, as Ravager won't be used. In case of BS i have it bound seperatly.

quiet geyser
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Use trinkets before BiS

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Trinket gives more, and will allign with avatar 100% of the time if used first

quiet geyser
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(Assuming you have a 1.5min trinket)

sweet roost
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Right now I'm using Signet of the priory, which unfortunately has 2min CD

chrome plover
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dont you then wanna use signet on every other avatar

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and not randomly on just a reck/rav

quiet geyser
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I'de take a dps loss just to get a 1.5 min trinket lmao

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2 min trinkets for fury 💩

chrome plover
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yeah it stinks

chilly fractal
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All my homies hate 2 min trinkets

sweet roost
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I see. Thank you. I'll bind the Signet to separate button. Sadly, the house of cards is being evasive, so I work with what i got. 😄

quiet geyser
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@sweet roost spear has also been pretty much abandoned, switch with roar

chilly fractal
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What ilvl signet?

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Hero track?

sweet roost
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I feel like the spear still works wonders in PvP. The signet is Hero 665 ilvl

chilly fractal
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Gross

forest owl
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i see on logs most people take powerful enrage for mythic stix, but i see critcake took frenzied, does it really matter much?

coarse nest
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Nah it doesn’t really matter much

clever belfry
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if youre comfortable getting the cdr with powerful

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play powerful

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if you arent, play frenzied

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👍

forest owl
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problem my guild has is adds are spread a lot even though we have 2x bdks

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so at times im between holding cds and hoping the adds come in or use them on 2-3 targets so as to not sit on cds too long

quiet breach
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which boss drops tier shoulders?

forest owl
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we have 8 melee dps, no boomies, no spriests and adds taking forever to get in, feels so shit with a bad comp

hardy bluff
chilly fractal
merry pewter
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when do you guys use the BiS buff?

next ruin
kind bolt
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holy pugging 13s is hell

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have failed like 4 and its not like i can get invited so am forced to do 12s

winter shoal
lavish wedge
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when press?

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WAIT U CAN USE BiS?

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hahahahahahahaha

clever belfry
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777777777

quiet breach
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how do u guys position yourself when the 2 bosses smash together on cauldron?

clever belfry
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..between them?

lavish wedge
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i go in between

quiet breach
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I notice that right in the middle of them has a lot more hazards then just off to the side

warm crag
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Use bis out of combat to gain the stat you need to understand it

quiet breach
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but idk if u can actually cleave both if u aren't in the middle

chilly fractal
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Use your fingers

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Dodge

clever belfry
forest owl
lavish wedge
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ok im dumb what does best in slots on use do?

eternal sundial
coarse nest
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Just press defensive and hog the space

clever belfry
warm crag
eternal sundial
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Oh the stat buff

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No

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The stat change yes

clever belfry
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im trying to help u grief people

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and u do this

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loser

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bozo

warm crag
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U should cast bis out of combat

lavish wedge
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what does the cast out of combat do

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does it decide which stat buff you'll get in combat?

chilly fractal
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Tbh I’m kinda surprised they didn’t just put all 3 stats on the mace

lavish wedge
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oh it changes the main stat

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i see

merry pewter
warm crag
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me when i have to say this for no reason ig

jade cipher
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bro

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top ironic comey 2025 is fury not being top even on 5 targets XD

dense elbow
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I am not mad, just... disapointed.

frank dawn
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fury is perfect. no notes

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-blizz

sour frigate
rare garnet
frank dawn
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the designer probably looks through the data every week to see how many mismatches there are between wielder stat and weapon stat and cackles maniacally

chilly fractal
oblique trail
clever belfry
oblique trail
summer quail
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whats dn

warm crag
remote bobcat
clever belfry
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u cant say that

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?

kind bolt
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is arms better in m+

winter shoal
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For some things

near wing
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If goal is to post higher overall dps, I think it’s better

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But there’s more to m+ generally than that

tight roost
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Like having fun

kind bolt
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i was thinking in the super big pulls

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but dunno i feel like they lack so much self sustain

deft sierra
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Spec sucks

velvet obsidian
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If you wanna do good in big pulls then go to org, log out, and reroll to mage. Guaranteed results

warm crag
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i dont think theres any content in the game that genuinely requires self sustain

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high delves maybe

willow cradle
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I mean sustain is never a bad thing, leech is hella useful on M Bandit

willow cradle
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But for keys what make's Fury safer than Arm's is the extra mitigation and HP

sour frigate
hardy bluff
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more hp and more eeling

gleaming siren
hardy bluff
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also 10% free dr

gleaming siren
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Thane is actually insane defensively

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If you take the Impending talent

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Just gain a full extra defensive

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If you take the passive DR you deserve to die to a oneshot

sour frigate
warm crag
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you have a healer

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or even up to 4

smoky vale
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or health pot

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or dstance

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or healthstone

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or second wind

gleaming siren
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Okay listing Second Wind is nuts

smoky vale
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ill show you deez nuts

kind bolt
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tell that to some priory pulls

covert blaze
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where is that ballsack guy to talk about pvp

kind bolt
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wanna see arms ignoring pain 4 tolls in the bonker

smoky vale
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@orchid dagger

smoky vale
warm crag
gleaming siren
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Not real content

dense elbow
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Why care about anything but ST? AoE is just visual flare on the meters and pad that we steal away from others. Sustain is simply stealing HPS from the healer. Focus on what matters. The one thing. ST.

low folio
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man i was looking at some keys Noxxiv ran. he does so much damage

dense elbow
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From all I seen, the 16-17 runs, I saw nothing impressive?

low folio
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i mean its a lot for fury lol

dense elbow
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Fair, and he does a lot of damage for sure. Just not mindbogling amounts. Just enough to get the job done wicked

orchid dagger
orchid dagger
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Second Wind is fucking cracked

low folio
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MoP second wind was king for pvp in terms of versions of second wind

orchid dagger
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It also works in combat, so a good Rogue stunlock is just like a healer pumping you

compact knot
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i like self sustain in raid

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cannot die to rot ever

smoky vale
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now imagine if they played arms and assa/sub

low folio
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ya but doesnt he only want to play fury and still is always near the top or at the top for dps warrior

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in terms of io

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arms definitely can do more aoe

smoky vale
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i think they would do better if they didnt play 2 target capped specs

marble schooner
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aight got Bugsack and updated all addons and still getting this error with bigwigs, details and elvui, what could it be

Addon pops the "fatality" sound every like 10 secs so it must be a recurring bug

orchid dagger
warm crag
smoky vale
orchid dagger
jade cipher
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as fury warrior i have serious issues with the hitbox on first boss of rookery

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wtf is this shit

warm crag
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you have the same melee range as everyone else just press w

remote haven
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first phase or second phase? I feel like second phase it has a huge hitbox

jade cipher
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first phase ofc , mate

quiet breach
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I just got a $2 bill as change for something

remote haven
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Haha just making sure I can always fit meele range and dodge blue circles without problems

jade cipher
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like when you have to move out or move a bit it suddenly becomes red

remote haven
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You can stay close to the blue circle and you can hit it and not get dmged

jade cipher
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when season launcehd the big candle boss in DFC had very small hitbox, got hotfixed next day

remote haven
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Yea it always killed me when tank moved out

jade cipher
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but this one when you playing in pugs and people have to open up with their circles. you lose uptime

remote haven
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I dont have any those problems but rookery 2nd boss I always tilt into oblivion

fading sky
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We just nedd

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3more yarda range

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For the love of god blizzard let us hit him

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Such long weapons shorter range than a rogue

dense elbow
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Just spam Whirlwind you noobs

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stop complaining, the tool is right there

glass quarry
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to sim for fury m+ i should sim 5 targets for 5 mins and for st raid i should sim 5 mins 1 target right

fading sky
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Just sim patchwerk

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And prio trimkets that give stats

glass quarry
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yeah i sim patchwerk anyways just asking about targets and time

dense elbow
sour frigate
dense elbow
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Burst potential as Fury keks

sour frigate
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ikr

sour frigate
glass quarry
dense elbow
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MM burst window is pretty solid, even my 640 alt does numbers my warrior can only dream of

sour frigate
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bigger than ww

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664

dense elbow
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Only 4m? Git gud

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if you BM you do 5m

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trust

sour frigate
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not in 655 yet

dense elbow
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Did I stutter?

sour frigate
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need bigger weapons

dense elbow
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Go BM

sour frigate
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No t

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y

dense elbow
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Dew it

sour frigate
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I believ mm meta in 11.1.5 chatting

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At least solid offmeta

dense elbow
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I believe in Fury buffs, trust

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Hydrate surely raid balance wont be the only thing that matters in WoW

next ruin
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Why would they buff fury

low folio
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is there a way to make the bloodthirst macro only appear when im playing mountain thane or maybe its already set like that?

warm crag
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what do you mean

sour frigate
sour frigate
next ruin
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In "load" window you can select mountain thane only, although I don't understand why you would want to

dense fulcrum
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what trinket are u guys using in M+ since the new changes in the last patch? what sims best for you? im curious to hear other opinions

dense elbow
low folio
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because i dont raid and if i ever do keys as slayer in keys i do a build that presses bt a lot so i wouldnt need it active on slayer

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so i only want it on thane

warm crag
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its still a good WA for ST

next ruin
dense elbow
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Monmonk blizz employee confirmed. No take backsies.

gleaming siren
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idk looks like you're using some empty string somewhere as a name/nickname that it doesn't like

warm crag
low folio
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ya i meant wa i had a brain fart

warm crag
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but why do you want to turn it off for slayer

next ruin
low folio
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because i dont raid and if i play slayer in keys its a bt and execute focused build, feels pointless to have it active when i am always pressing bt

jade cipher
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i think they should buff fury solely on "lack of idenitity"

warm crag
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you are majorly overpressing bloodthirst if you are just pressing bts in ST as slayer

low folio
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i dont take rb talents

gleaming siren
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the fuck are you taking

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SMF?

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chad

next ruin
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You are this guy?

warm crag
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spear condemn talent goes hard

low folio
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ya but i stopped using spear i didnt like it. i usually play arms this season but i have fun playing that build

torpid elbow
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everyone do we have discord for pallys and hunters and other ranged classes?

jade cipher
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yes

smoky vale
jade cipher
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but if you go from skyhold to those places is like Starting watching sitcoms with friends and the office, everything else is lackluster

next ruin
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Friends deadge

indigo walrus
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Is there a fury version of the slayer sudden death weakaura? cus i cant get it to work on fury, only arms

next ruin
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I have updated mine to work for both, but there is one iirc

indigo walrus
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can you please help a brother out 🙏🏼

next ruin
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sent it in dm, however the original one still is there somewhere

mint obsidian
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are warriors ez to find group for m+

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or ret palas easier?

fading sky
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Prob ret?

mint obsidian
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really?

calm kiln
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ret by a long shot

fading sky
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Ret utility and same dmg

sour frigate
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False

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Ret more dmg

fading sky
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And buffed st now

mint obsidian
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damn

fading sky
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True

sour frigate
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anyway

sour frigate
fading sky
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What kind of.keys though??

runic quail
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How’s mountain thane vs slayer performing for m+ rn?

sour frigate
fading sky
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Askin rey

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But ye ret slaps

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Its all pad fury best prio dmgerclueless

sour frigate
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Sweet cope

next ruin
dense elbow
# mint obsidian are warriors ez to find group for m+

Pwarrior does get into keys decently quick. Still, we aint their first pick. Arms do get invites, but only if you are the best option of all that sign. I am yet to be invited to a key as Fury, and in my keys when I invite ppl, they start cussing at me for being Fury and wasting their time.

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Fury is great

sour frigate
fading sky
low folio
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ive never had someone mad at me for playing fury in a key, even when ive qued as arms first

next ruin
fading sky
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Same

next ruin
sour frigate
eternal compass
low folio
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shit go dev evoker and rescue your friends into death swirlies

sour frigate
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^

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gearing this guy rn

calm kiln
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might as well play aug lol

low folio
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nobody inviting an aug

next ruin
sour frigate
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🦵

dense elbow
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I wonder if Aug gets invite faster than a Fury

calm kiln
#

exactly nobody inviting fury either

next ruin
#

what key range are u getting declined from

dense elbow
#

Not exactly true, I make groups and just accept Fury warriors. Bringing 3 at a time through 10-12s.

calm kiln
#

+2 to +20 lol

dense elbow
#

So there is a chance

sour frigate
#

Funkykitty lord and savior

#

🙏

calm kiln
#

i am getting invites jsut takes time to get groups

eternal compass
#

I have 12s done and i dont get invited to +6 brew for neck farm its that bad

sour frigate
#

Funkykittie*

dense elbow
next ruin
#

maybe you guys have no gear idk

calm kiln
#

get into groups faster on my alts

next ruin
#

tagging into a 6 cmon

sour frigate
dense elbow
next ruin
#

and you tell me you are not accepted in a +6 ??

sour frigate
#

well

#

im not accepted in +10

next ruin
#

how come

sour frigate
#

I DONT KNOW

#

I DONT

next ruin
#

i just did my weekly quest rn

sour frigate
#

KNOW

next ruin
#

getting into 10's in 5s

sour frigate
#

even tho

next ruin
#

reioting

dense elbow
#

I mean, why would you invite a Fury Warrior, when you can get any other class that does 30-50% more damage

smoky vale
next ruin
low folio
#

i think time of day and region your in can play a part in how people choose to invite

dense elbow
sour frigate
next ruin
#

cos im playing on the same eu servers as u, with less gear and rio and getting into 10's in 5s

dense elbow
#

soon

sour frigate
#

need to play few dragon keys now 🐉

mint obsidian
#

i think guys ret more burst too?

dense elbow
#

By a landslide more

next ruin
#

they more of everything in keys

dense elbow
#

We dont have burst anymore

sour frigate
#

ret more everything

#

therefore fuck ret

mint obsidian
#

i remember fury so much burst

#

now not?

next ruin
dense elbow
#

Now not

sour frigate
#

now 0

calm kiln
#

not like it could be

mint obsidian
#

wow rip

#

WW monks? good for m+?

#

wrong discord i kno whaha

sour frigate
#

decent

mint obsidian
#

but meh

dense elbow
#

Decent, not popular

sour frigate
#

recent nerf killed aoe tho

mint obsidian
#

i wanted to roll warrior but i mainly pug m+

sour frigate
#

still good prio/st

#

great*

dense elbow
#

Welcome to club Fury

mint obsidian
#

so its a pain in the ass if i dont get ez invites

dense elbow
#

\o/

mint obsidian
#

mage should be good?

sour frigate
#

yeppers

next ruin
#

depends on what you wanna play

dense elbow
#

Mage is good, but, I dont invite them - cause 99% of them are asshattier

calm kiln
#

lol

mint obsidian
#

yeah i also noticed 99% of mages are bad

sour frigate
#

dunno im just gearing everything this season its really easy

mint obsidian
#

why?

#

lol

dense elbow
#

If I beat anyone on overall DP

#

they should delete their character

#

stop WoW at all

#

never come back

sour frigate
calm kiln
#

i was playing my mage while drunk the other night and got told to go back to M 0's

mint obsidian
#

mage is always fotm

#

xD

sour frigate
#

not getting on arms tho gladge

next ruin
#

seeing people harassing mages is lowkey fun

#

he was very low on overall

dense elbow
#

They probably should make a new function to WoW, if beaten by Fury Warrior DPS, you get a 2 day timeout to reflect upon your failure.

#

yes yes, in m+, chill raiderinos

sour frigate
#

Therefore i would send like 20 people after my weekly quest

jade cipher
#

i will never understand how raid is still the metric for wow devs whilst you do it once every week get saved and spent 90% of your time in m+ anyway

sour frigate
#

I mean

#

Nerfed monk hard cuz of raid

#

Udk untouched being busted as fuck

jade cipher
#

thats stupid how fury last seaosn got nerfed over raid aswell

sour frigate
#

Yeppers

#

4 in a row iirc

jade cipher
#

close m+ for a month and no amount of raiding can save the game

next ruin
#

took 29s

sour frigate
#

Took me 5+ mins

hardy bluff
#

just dont be lowilevel

next ruin
#

i am low

#

tagging 661

sour frigate
next ruin
#

do u have a tank rio ?

sour frigate
#

No

#

Havent reg prot at all

next ruin
#

maybe its the russian realm

sour frigate
#

Kazzak very russian 🇹🇷

next ruin
#

wait

next ruin
#

i thought that was ur ig name

dense elbow
#

That moment Cryllics =/= russian

sour frigate
next ruin
#

cos im pretty sure ig name in cyrillic is a longer queue timer than latin name

sour frigate
#

Not really

dense elbow
#

Cryllics are the only ones that invite me to their groups as DPS

#

I love em

next ruin
#

starting russian on duo lingo to feel at home

next ruin
queen panther
sour frigate
#

I dunno i see french bein bullied the most 🤭

#

In league too

next ruin
#

in wow sometimes yes

sour frigate
#

finder*

queen panther
#

Sweet thanks

sour frigate
next ruin
#

us and english propaganda

sand crest
#

tbh I'm french and I've blacklisted Hyjal EU from my keys

#

spastic realm

sullen dove
#

So minus some aura

clever belfry
#

silence american

sand crest
#

only europeans get to talk shit about the french

clever belfry
#

only thing about the french i respect is you just demolishing paris any time the gov tries to move retirement age or anything

next ruin
#

id rather have an american talk shit about my country than some guy from latvia tbf

#

nothing wrong with latvia, just doestn seem right

#

swordish googling latvia as we speak

sand crest
#

tbh I love everyone and will gladly banter with anyone except Hyjal EU and Sanguino EU

sand crest
#

the fact that theres not a skyhold demolish emoji yet is a crime

next ruin
#

this is a fury discord

covert blaze
clever belfry
#

doesnt deserve an emote

sand crest
covert blaze
clever belfry
#

brazil mentioned !!

covert blaze
#

who is from brazil

junior gale
#

Balls

clever belfry
#

Balls

#

Khaenri'ah = Brazil lore

iron portal
quiet breach
iron portal
#

They all failed

next ruin
iron portal
#

Worst thing i ever encountered was french paladin

chilly fractal
#

You need to understand the economy of a +6 Cinderbrew

fading sky
#

Just joim a 10

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Or an 8

#

6s are harder to join than 8s

#

Ppl joining 6s are typically 2500 rio

#

++

chilly fractal
#

If you want a lil troll experiment… put a 6 Cinderbrew in LFG

fading sky
#

And c what ppl can choose

chilly fractal
#

See how many people queue up to that MFer

halcyon python
#

Do someone knows what wa or addon crit uses for the combat text?

chilly fractal
#

And think “how would I stand out in this crowd”

fading sky
#

Tbh just go tank if u want that key with 2k rio

chilly fractal
#

Well that’s what I was gonna follow up with

halcyon python
#

@mossy fox hey mate, big fan!! What wa or addon u using for combat text?

next ruin
#

NameplateSCT

#

you have his profile on his discord

crude ridge
halcyon python
#

Thx guys

old jetty
#

hey guys one question

halcyon python
old jetty
#

in your opinion wich are the bis trinkets to do M+

#

aas fury warr

#

as

crude ridge
crude ridge
restive pine
#

guys u think its ideal to craft a cloak to have the embellishment of doubling the effect of other neubian item which is the weap ? i have mythic bracer item

#

is that embellishment mandatory or not much

warm crag
#

the fuck is your discord name

compact siren
#

not spongie!

marble schooner
clever belfry
iron portal
rocky star
#

Does anyone know when Mastery hard falls off as the stat to go for? Or do I blindly trust the sims and go for even more?

marble schooner
#

in the robot we trust

frank dawn
#

there is really zero reason to try and outthink the robot

rocky star
fading sky
#

Imagine some1 saying blind and robot

vivid moth
#

The robot has me at 22k mastery with flask

#

In robot we trust

fading sky
#

Robot is what makes u not blind.

#

Blind is bislist followers

edgy oasis
#

Guys. How does one sim trinkets on multi-target for mythic plus.

coarse nest
#

5T 1min patchwerk is a good reference

pastel spoke
#

how good is MCA after the nerfs

#

locknstalk sims 2nd best

rocky star
torpid elbow
warm crag
torpid elbow
warm crag
#

we don't want to do that

#

you can't use that info effectively

#

you just need to sim top gears or droptimizers to figure out what combo of gear to wear that you have in bags or what to farm for in raid/m+

torpid elbow
#

10-4

smoky vale
#

when i press dt or ua

warm crag
#

idk look at sim

#

i think their sim correctly requests it

smoky vale
#

thats smart spingus

trim quarry
#

should i believe sims when it comes to mister lock n stalk

warm crag
#

ye its a good tirnket

trim quarry
#

do you even need to switch the aoe/st modes

floral frigate
#

better question is there a wa to tell you what mode its in

trim quarry
#

yeah there is actually

floral frigate
#

im hoping for one in the vault or drop next week

fair thistle
#

when will they give fury a BL

#

like

#

its THE spec

#

for it

floral frigate
#

sure be nice, i would love an deenrage

#

we all about being enraged, why cant we be like bro you only think your mad, im madder type deal

fair thistle
#

hahaha right

crude ridge
floral frigate
#

im just annoyied in general about trinkets

trim quarry
#

you think it clears eye for both arms and fury for m+, considering the ramp-up needed for kezan

#

665 ilvl for both

floral frigate
#

i passed a mythic seaforium, a few hours before the over sim for m core was released/found out

#

ya kezan is not really an m+ trinket

floral frigate
#

ok random question

#

anyone one konw how to get my in game chat to stop freezing in place and i have to manually scroll it back to the newest messages?

quiet breach
#

if u sim lockenstalk as patchwerk 5T will it sim as if u are in mass destruction mode automatically or do u have to set it like that

floral frigate
#

i remember someone saying its an option or something for that

#

but I dont see it and since i dont have one maybe it shows up if you have one

#

idk

kind wind
#

guys, in method raid tools is there a way to set reminders for when to use cooldowns? doing HC gally and want to make sure i have AOE for adds.

eternal sundial
#

they have an inbuilt reminder thing no

#

like just do that

kind wind
#

i dunno , literally just downloaded it hah

#

ill have a look

clever belfry
mint obsidian
#

BT or RB prio?

sour frigate
#

LETSGOOO @dense elbow legend

dense elbow
#

Hydrate huh?

#

Legendary bad you mean sadge

pulsar prawn
sour frigate
#

wont tell anybody

dense elbow
#

One day OF will be buffed

#

one day

feral ivy
#

anyone know if there is a any boss u only need 1 tank or everyone is 2? (for normal)

sour frigate
#

voices tellin me to level a ret...

sour frigate
dense elbow
#

Hoy, 5% of that dam is mine

#

you not 100%

#

that is fake

sour frigate
#

💪

dense elbow
#

💪

sour frigate
#

fury is even less represented than ww

dense elbow
#

Hoy, I just checked, you didnt get a 100 you lier

sour frigate
#

wdym

dense elbow
sour frigate
#

its overall not per key lvl

#

i cant do 15th key atm how can u see chatting

dense elbow
#

This is overall

sour frigate
#

🤔

dense elbow
#

shows when I go to your profile directly

#

Gz on the maybe 100

#

On a sidenote, anyone know why this happens:

#

Why is there one empty duplicate page

#

weird I know I am a void, but still

sour frigate
#

I want to commit to at least 3100 but have no one to play with ExcitedBlushette

dense elbow
#

I would suggest joining ya, but... Slayer is kinda 'oh, that is bad, like, real bad' tier.

sour frigate
#

roll arms clueless

#

and do balls

#

ill share balls wa

dense elbow
#

dandy How about I go Boomkin

sour frigate
#

or udk xan

#

or even ench

#

big dam + bl + mastery buff

dense elbow
#

okayge allowed to dream

sour frigate
feral ivy
#

how yall should vote 100%

frank vault
#

If Ara-Kara doesn't get into the season people are insane. Sacbrood too stronk.

royal patio
feral ivy
#

nah easy dungeons over trinket

frank vault
#

SV trinket is really good tho.

feral ivy
#

EASY OVER LOOT lol

frank vault
#

All dungeons are easy if you're good 🤔 🤣

summer quail
feral ivy
#

i mean brain dead that u can run in pull whole dungeon and win.. AK u can pull whole dungeon in 5ish pulls not including the bosses

fickle cedar
#

as long as you dont vote for big pull dungeons clueless

dense elbow
#

ngl

#

all of them are bad

#

Heh, EU forums down for you guys? Last time that happened, the vote jumped immensly

rigid stirrup
#

the trinket bias in NA voting rn goes so hard

dense elbow
#

Ah, ofc, ppl wouldnt vote for what they found the most fun

#

but for what loot there is to get

fickle cedar
#

i mean personally ill vote for short dungeons, they always seem to be the most fun to run in general

dense elbow
#

Ye, but there is too many mobs tho

fickle cedar
#

like i genuinely dont really like running city of threads and i dont know anyone that does either

dense elbow
sour frigate
hardy bluff
#

dawnbreak 🤢

spare steppe
#

i hate AK

#

SV is a fantastic dungeon

devout totem
#

if they canf fix the clipping issue with the flying boat when i'm mounted, DB is getting my vote 😭

fading bane
#

griefing if ur not picing SV

hallow moth
#

Are they getting DDOsed again lol

fading bane
#

need a 1.5min on use

tepid cedar
#

15 rook... sooo clooooosseee

whole yacht
#

are rogues cooked? higher ilvl rogue, 500 higher io, and i beat him overall.

#

or is he just bad

tepid cedar
#

he must have sucked

#

look at the rogue dps in nox's group

heady saffron
#

i want skarm shart damnit

whole yacht
tepid cedar
#

making that pushhh

silver pecan
#

Bruh idk what the fuck to do for MT fury none of the guides are the same

tepid cedar
#

fuck the guides lol

#

read the apl

silver pecan
#

how?

tepid cedar
elfin belfry
#

I bet they're anticipating these votes going in that direction and preparing accordingly keks

slim coral
feral ivy
modest condor
#

or tol dagor, shrine of the storm, siege of boralus, sanguine depths

tepid cedar
#

and the fucking camera clipping

feral ivy
#

bring back MAW

slim coral
#

esp once it scaled

tepid cedar
#

bring back OM: junkyarddd

modest condor
#

there's absolutely no way it was anywhere near as bad as tol dagor

tepid cedar
#

i miss those robotttsss

modest condor
#

like it's almost impossible to make a dungeon worse than tol dagor

slim coral
#

stonevault is the only dungeon I actaully vowed to never do every week

#

I liked tol dagor

#

you got to shoot the mobs with turrets

modest condor
#

small corridors, littered with bugs, unfair boss mechanics

#

cannons killing half the dungeon for you

#

but only if you have a specific group comp

slim coral
#

yes I like that

modest condor
#

otherwise lmao get fucked

slim coral
#

the cannon part

#

idk the bug part

#

I started in nya

modest condor
#

everything was pulling through walls left right center

#

or through floors

slim coral
#

ah

modest condor
#

you could pull the last boss during the second boss fight

#

and it would pull the whole dungeon

slim coral
#

idk I don't have bad memeories of it

#

but I was new

feral ivy
#

S3 should be 1.AK 2.Dawn breaker 3. DFC 4.Rook 5.Maw 6. Atal 7.academy 8. manor

covert blaze
slim coral
#

even if you liked stonevault

#

it def aint season 3 worthy

modest condor
#

last boss had great rng, i've seen more than 1 world first key get depleted because the boss just did unhealable spellqueue

slim coral
#

or fav m+ worthy

#

I hope they bring back gambit

#

or kings rest

heady saffron
#

this entire expacs dungeons have been trash lol

#

id take grim butthole again over any of these s2 ones

dense elbow
slim coral
#

this entire season is actually realyl good

#

fairly balanced

#

quick dungeons for the majority

#

not terrible to pug

modest condor
feral ivy
#

kings rest last boss was fun as fuck imo

heady saffron
#

i miss stonevault

#

🫗

heady saffron
#

give us algethar academy too and kara upper

#

kthnx

feral ivy
#

or both sides of tazavesh?

heady saffron
#

and kara lower too fuck it

dense elbow
feral ivy
#

what i would LOVE to see in m+ is deadmines or scarlet monastery

heady saffron
#

yah uh cata classic already showed me how much ppl dont like deadmines

#

leaving off the rip if its chosen from random inferno dungeon queue lol

feral ivy
#

OR wailing caverns and change it to 3 or 2 instance

heady saffron
#

watch em start just using season of discovery custom raid/dungeons as new stuff in retail

feral ivy
#

some of these classic and first few expan can be good M+ but some are just stupid long like RFC

heady saffron
#

has scholo been a m+ at some point?

feral ivy
#

nope

#

the oldest is the violet hold from wrath depending if u see if its from wrath or legion

wide egret
#

Howdy yall quick question, i know there's a macro for Whirlwind or Slam depending on talents, then Thunder Clap / Whrilwind, I tried combing but couldnt figure it out. is there make a macro to have it be like, if thunder clap talented, thunder clap; else whirlwind; else slam?

feral ivy
wide egret
#

yeah but to just have 1 key that works with slayer or thane

#

basically, just lazy and dont wanna move macros around when swapping specs

feral ivy
#

ahh if thats what u ment then idk if u can

#

dont think u can because if u have TC u still can use WW but shouldnt

lilac temple
#

What should our max Mastery be at since the diminishing returns?

feral ivy
lilac temple
#

Diminishing returns

#

is 50% too much?

feral ivy
#

idk i just follow the lord almighty simc

#

its what we we learned when we were small babys

oblique trail
#

Idk if the default talent loadouts have changed this or not, it at least used to be that your actionbars changed if you changed loadout

#

It's also just a small convenience

feral ivy
#

but that cast WW and TC? and slam?

#

or just 1?

oblique trail
#

It changes in priority based on what talent you got

#

So it's just all in one filler/aoe enabler

feral ivy
#

ah weird

torpid elbow
#

if you tc forget ww unless tc is not yellow around it

#

i usally press ww when theres a circle and i still need to apply some type of damage

wide egret
feral ivy
#

unless im missing something if ur playing MT u have TC talented and u still have WW in ur spell book so how does that stop it

wide egret
#

no its for meat cleaver

#

so if MT and TC talented, then it shows that
If Slayer and Meat Cleaver tlaented, shows WW
If Slayer and no MC, then shows Slam

#

and i use talent load out tweaker so my talents can change by action bars don't so it's for an easy 1 macro covers 3 keys

feral ivy
#

ahhhhhhhhhhh

#

i never knew that lol

wide egret
#

yeahh. its omega lazy lol

coarse nest
#

Man season 1 I feel like I never had issues having enough rage on pull for first rampage now it’s consistently just not workingcritcake

tepid cedar
#

yea sucha bad feeling having to get some filler b4 ramp

coarse nest
#

That’s probably it too

clever belfry
clever belfry
tepid cedar
clever belfry
#

remove both real

coarse nest
#

Am baseline with RA choice node

quiet breach
stiff torrent
#

Whats our mastery softcap?

oblique trail
oblique trail
quiet breach
#

or it doesnt actually exist

stiff torrent
#

Alright, im at 63% just want to know so I can keep eyeballing gear

coarse nest
oblique trail
#

Stats are not that black and white

quiet breach
oblique trail
#

All stats lose value if you stack them enough because you simply just get less per stat after a certain threshold

upbeat blade
#

they found a setup that sims best, they weren't looking for a setup that maximized mastery

oblique trail
#

But some stats are still worth going over this threshold for, it's however all dependant on the rest of your gear

tepid cedar
quiet breach
#

i am surprised blizzard did not nerf cyrces

#

they went out of their way to nerf mechanacore

oblique trail
#

They did

#

Just not by enough depending on how you look at it

#

As Arms I've already replaced it, as Fury I'll still use it for all of prog

tepid cedar
#

ebem if u get a sacrificial ofeering and get a jasper. jasper just compliments cyrces even more

quiet breach
#

is it common for classes to have old-content items be BiS even into the entire next season?

tepid cedar
#

i really dont see 2 678 rings outperforming iot

flint flame
#

HEllo

oblique trail
#

They try to make an effort in making previous season gear worse

flint flame
#

Where can I find guides regarding fury rotation> I checked the pins and FAQ but couldnt find anything

oblique trail
#

Then you missed it very plainly

quiet breach
#

yo bro apocalypse, whats ur io rn

tepid cedar
#

3222

quiet breach
#

as fury

tepid cedar
#

at my IO yes

flint flame
tepid cedar
#

but i bet 3k would stil have isssues

quiet breach
tepid cedar
#

theres legit no popint in taking us lol

#

its rought

#

point*

quiet breach
#

its actually jover i am gonna be forced to be a prot andy

#

i guess

dense elbow
#

Can confirm, 3k got isssues

flint flame
oblique trail
quiet breach
#

maybe in a few weeks it will be easier copium

oblique trail
#

They all show basically the same information

coarse nest
#

2988 and it’s easily an hour to get into an io key for me lmao

flint flame
#

thank you