#fury
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Depends a bit on comp
If your comp is worse Destro is good, if you have 3 Warlocks 2 Shadows Aff mayb better but Destro has some very compelling arguments even then (easier to prog past hard add sets)
Destro also does better vs the non-Assistant adds theoretically
Banezi jumpscare
But yea their comp kinda sucks but Destros hard carry Assistants
Showcasing the Warlock tech
(Simply have one of the best Warlock players on your roster)
Gentlements, i am looking at my logs and compare it to others and i see that BT is sent way more often that i do, i have the crit chance weak aura shall i change it to the katching one here? As i am obviously sending it not often enough
Or someone has some other to help knowing when to send it
Maybe they play vc and send it on cooldown during exec range. If you don't have the talent you will send way less bt's
I play with vc
But if you have vc and don't prio bt during exec range, you might aswell not play vc
Maybe im not sending it enough in execute
So in that case i shall send it in cd regardless or crit chance
APL doesn't, Wowhead rotation suggests you should
I think when I last checked the difference between sending at lower crit chance vs sending on CD always below 35% was very minimal
I just have my WA switch from a visual alert at 85% to 40% below 35% when I play VC
That would help can u share the setting?
most of the class wa pack already have it baked in
uh it's just full baked into my WA with 2 additional triggers checking for VC and Health of target
not really a standalone I can share beyond the whole icon WA
Gio is Anda theory
its not a theory is it
Its genuinely funny how bad warrior is on that fight
But 1 bad fight in a Tier is not too bad
true
I just have the luxury of my former onetrick class being insanely good on that fight
and gearing being dummy easy for alts
shut up and spend your crests
Schmidi pick my vaultus for me ty
it's just the ring no
nah its the boss
i had it just after he does the spinny bs
he just shot me
while both tanks were alive
It likes to shoot people after intermission
kinda random
boss is a buggy mess of garbage wcyd
happened to Liquid's warrior quite a lot too
me when i check warr discord before wowhead
Hello guys im new to warr i want to learn the rotation for aoe and single target
And will it change with 4set or will it be the same
I just full send galastronk bis list tbh
that guy knows what's up
Just wondering if I am out of touch or nah. Just took a look at the WoWhead article and it says Fury got some of the strongest AoE burst and AoE m+ damage in the game.
So, am I just sitting with a scuffed impression, or are Fury in actuality really strong
If it ain't ST, my impression is that Fury is always just meh and behind.
Definitely depends on pull size
Sustained AoE feels bad on anything more than 5 targets imo
they took burst by killing odyns fury 
but fury has probably best st on dungeon build among all classes
that feels good when others blast 30m aoe
So you would call that strong AoE dam and AoE burst in m+ in general?

what wowhead article
Todays, tierlist "deep" dive section
I like Cinderbrew first pull more. At least as Arms.
Meh
cinder first room fury just feels useless lol
Ele is an outlier for sure tho. One of those that funnel and make your prio dam look bad too while blasting AoE
In some keys yeah it feels okay
So you would call it strong
Situationally strong. Overall I feel like arms is better.
Fury 5 target cleave is not even the strongest in just 5 targets. Hence why there is so many complaints from us.
it's not strong
So what situation would you call Fury AoE strong, comparably?
I only feel useful on ST so far
Consistent small pulls like ToP
oh i mean if you consider it among the other B-tier specs there then I'd say it's placed fairly
idk if 'incredibly strong aoe' is the term i'd use
I dont disagree with the placement. I wonder about the statement
Cause when I use my AoE buttons, strong is not what I feel or AoE burst is not something I notice
the next paragraph completely contradicts the first though
There are a couple of issues that Fury Warriors have. The largest issue is the target cap, which doesn't allow Fury to truly excel the way they otherwise could. The other main problem is that their overall damage is just a hair behind some of the other top-tier options.

Mid I can agree with. But term is strong, as is why I ask.
It is meh, for sure at worst. Gets the job done over time. Just not the tool for that job I would bring out if given the choice
Well, I am sure ppl will poke me later if they disagree. But currently my impression stands as Fury Warrior AoE in m+ being strong, to be a very charitable way of saying mid
how much is arms doing in like cinderbrew with decent gear?
prob decent chunk ,more
the pulls are insanely huge
you wont time higher keys if you pull carefully anway
i just did one on huntard and I was at like 3.5million, but still got beat by a pala doing 3.8
Don't compare overalls with a paladin they're fuckin busted with 30 second wings
And then divine storm spam from their tier set for uncapped AoE
everyone flames me for cinderbrew overall lol
hey i was just happy to beat the tank lmao....but i only play fury on warrior and prefer the gameplay to hunter by far
i mean i barely make 3.4m
they pump 4.7+
damn
show Hobgoblin dmg 
Yeah I'm moreso talking about how their rotation is literally just spamming divine storm when their tier set procs
That shit slaps in AoE
Cinder is a place most I see do 4-6m DPS, while I sit around 4m. But, I dare them to show overalls without me there to crush the bosses for them
they just see the overall they dc
Yeah who cares if you kill prio we need that droplet pad
what ilevel are you funky? and what trinks?
655, the pig liver and heartbomb
Ain't decent when my mates do 5m+ 
yeah im always behind, but thats just life
Is what it is tho, I could gain another 11% from talents
I am just glad I got ppl who let me play for fun, at least till Fury gets some buffs/changes
biggest problem is target capped
Biggest problem is AoE CDs that been neutered to irrelevance in all but the most minute tiny of scenarios that only appear in raids
I am sure in raids there are still adds that show up once a CD for 3-4 sec

even then fury isn't that good anymore lol
I wish it was better on mass aoe, but I just enjoy the gameplay
Reformed hunters United
it's still decent , you can just tell which classes or favoritable then others
You can always full ST boss if you feel useless on add damage
Guys: So are we spamming raging blow after bladestorm even if rage capped? minimum 2 RB unless we get a reset could squeeze 3 in? ....in theory we are only using Rampage to keep enraged up...
Yes even if capped
Spam till no more rb
The buffs are multiplicative so juicing your Brutal Finish rampage has a lot of additional value
1.5 * 2 = 3
🤯
🤯
Quick maffs how does he do it
Andus I have confirmed the 16.04. for my seminar
am scared
do i attend
Audience member feigns heart attack angle?
Someone was asking this when I went to bed, wake up and someone else is asking the same thing
Holy micro optimizations
@edgy oasis you still use ramp to refresh enrage, but the RB brutal finish stacking is only like 0.4% anyways so really not worth worrying about
bigbowwl if i wanna try RA in m+, are there any cues to have ? according to wowhead i should spam cb and bb until im not enraged anymore, even in ST ?
RA change is just so underwhelming. They didn't completely kill it, but it feels like they tried.
You know with the set bonus, am I better just sending rampage asap or holding to cast 1 or 2 more builders even after I can rampage to potentially get a higher winning streak?
Not like overcapping on rage or anything tho
Is it worth it or not?
Or do I just send rampage every time I can and hope it doesn’t end my winning streak
Nice good to know
Yes that understanding is more or less correct
any other big changes like this one ?
Hey, i just got house of cards and was wondering how to use it, do i do on cooldown with avatar or only when i have avatar + Recklessness?
macro with avatar same cd
perfect, tyvm
Been a long time since I looked at RA stuff, and I also don't think it's really been optimized much tbh
I remember at one point there was a check for 2rb vs bb vs 1rb but idk if that's still there off the top of my head
How much dps am I loosing by using this macro? Both in raid and m+.
#showtooltip Recklessness /use [combat] Best-in-Slots /use 14 /cast Recklessness /cast Avatar /cast Blood Fury /cast [@cursor, known:228920] Ravager; /cast [@cursor] Champion's Spear
I imagine the first hit of Ravager is loosing out on damage due to not being enraged, but is there anything else?
just enrage before pressing it
and you should be good
just know you cant use ravager and spear together
You also can’t use BiS and trinket at the same time
Enraging without Reck on pull takes too long. If i were to hold i'd loose damage on opener. I have either spear or ravager taken, never both. I use the spear for pvp only. The macro pops BiS first if it's off CD, so on pull. By the time Reck and Ravager/Bladestorm comes off CD I pop the macro to use the trinket along with them.
Another downside i've noticed is having to wait for GCD, as Ravager won't be used. In case of BS i have it bound seperatly.
Use trinkets before BiS
Trinket gives more, and will allign with avatar 100% of the time if used first
you should do trinket first
(Assuming you have a 1.5min trinket)
Right now I'm using Signet of the priory, which unfortunately has 2min CD
dont you then wanna use signet on every other avatar
and not randomly on just a reck/rav
yeah it stinks
All my homies hate 2 min trinkets
I see. Thank you. I'll bind the Signet to separate button. Sadly, the house of cards is being evasive, so I work with what i got. 😄
@sweet roost spear has also been pretty much abandoned, switch with roar
I feel like the spear still works wonders in PvP. The signet is Hero 665 ilvl
Gross
i see on logs most people take powerful enrage for mythic stix, but i see critcake took frenzied, does it really matter much?
Nah it doesn’t really matter much
if youre comfortable getting the cdr with powerful
play powerful
if you arent, play frenzied
👍
problem my guild has is adds are spread a lot even though we have 2x bdks
so at times im between holding cds and hoping the adds come in or use them on 2-3 targets so as to not sit on cds too long
which boss drops tier shoulders?
we have 8 melee dps, no boomies, no spriests and adds taking forever to get in, feels so shit with a bad comp
rik i think
Richard
when do you guys use the BiS buff?
i did one key with it i understand why, feels really shitty to play
holy pugging 13s is hell
have failed like 4 and its not like i can get invited so am forced to do 12s
Yeah RA Thane especially feels extremely clunky to me
777777777
how do u guys position yourself when the 2 bosses smash together on cauldron?
..between them?
i go in between
I notice that right in the middle of them has a lot more hazards then just off to the side
Use bis out of combat to gain the stat you need to understand it
but idk if u can actually cleave both if u aren't in the middle
the stat buff has a cast right
what you do is you leap into the middle with the 2 charging, you do a battleshout through your voice coms so your guild hears, pop everything dont move, cleave like no tomorrow and tell your healers to fully focus you. profit.
ok im dumb what does best in slots on use do?
Real
Yes
Just press defensive and hog the space
ty
No
bro spongie
im trying to help u grief people
and u do this
loser
bozo
U should cast bis out of combat
what does the cast out of combat do
does it decide which stat buff you'll get in combat?
My guilds feral on multiple occasions has changed his weapon to int without noticing
Tbh I’m kinda surprised they didn’t just put all 3 stats on the mace
/use [combat] 16
this
I am not mad, just... disapointed.
i call it balanced
Didn’t realize this was a thing and did 5 bosses last week. Smartest warrior.
the designer probably looks through the data every week to see how many mismatches there are between wielder stat and weapon stat and cackles maniacally
They know
balls
ballsHD
WHy are you doxing my saurids name?
use dn
whats dn
hello
deez nuts
is arms better in m+
For some things
If goal is to post higher overall dps, I think it’s better
But there’s more to m+ generally than that
Like having fun
i was thinking in the super big pulls
but dunno i feel like they lack so much self sustain
Spec sucks
If you wanna do good in big pulls then go to org, log out, and reroll to mage. Guaranteed results
i dont think theres any content in the game that genuinely requires self sustain
high delves maybe
I mean sustain is never a bad thing, leech is hella useful on M Bandit
Playing horde in 2025 cmooon
But for keys what make's Fury safer than Arm's is the extra mitigation and HP
No details no fun

more hp and more eeling
Some DoTs are pretty rough
also 10% free dr
Thane is actually insane defensively
If you take the Impending talent
Just gain a full extra defensive
If you take the passive DR you deserve to die to a oneshot

Okay listing Second Wind is nuts
ill show you deez nuts
what about pvp
tell that to some priory pulls
where is that ballsack guy to talk about pvp
wanna see arms ignoring pain 4 tolls in the bonker
@orchid dagger
sustain in pvp is op until dampening

believe it or not
Not real content
Why care about anything but ST? AoE is just visual flare on the meters and pad that we steal away from others. Sustain is simply stealing HPS from the healer. Focus on what matters. The one thing. ST.
man i was looking at some keys Noxxiv ran. he does so much damage
From all I seen, the 16-17 runs, I saw nothing impressive?
i mean its a lot for fury lol
Fair, and he does a lot of damage for sure. Just not mindbogling amounts. Just enough to get the job done 
No u
Little bro has never had to haul ass from an enemy team with a flag on his back and the barest sliver of health
Second Wind is fucking cracked
MoP second wind was king for pvp in terms of versions of second wind
It also works in combat, so a good Rogue stunlock is just like a healer pumping you
no humanoids play pvp
they pull around target caps 🙂
now imagine if they played arms and assa/sub
ya but doesnt he only want to play fury and still is always near the top or at the top for dps warrior
in terms of io
arms definitely can do more aoe
i think they would do better if they didnt play 2 target capped specs
aight got Bugsack and updated all addons and still getting this error with bigwigs, details and elvui, what could it be
Addon pops the "fatality" sound every like 10 secs so it must be a recurring bug
Sounds like cope from someone who gets kited by mages
i get kited by mages in pve enough
w
Kek
as fury warrior i have serious issues with the hitbox on first boss of rookery
wtf is this shit
you have the same melee range as everyone else just press w
first phase or second phase? I feel like second phase it has a huge hitbox
first phase ofc , mate
I just got a $2 bill as change for something
Haha just making sure I can always fit meele range and dodge blue circles without problems
like when you have to move out or move a bit it suddenly becomes red
You can stay close to the blue circle and you can hit it and not get dmged
when season launcehd the big candle boss in DFC had very small hitbox, got hotfixed next day
Yea it always killed me when tank moved out
but this one when you playing in pugs and people have to open up with their circles. you lose uptime
I dont have any those problems but rookery 2nd boss I always tilt into oblivion
We just nedd
3more yarda range
For the love of god blizzard let us hit him
Such long weapons shorter range than a rogue
to sim for fury m+ i should sim 5 targets for 5 mins and for st raid i should sim 5 mins 1 target right
yeah i sim patchwerk anyways just asking about targets and time
Just sim 1 target, 5 minutes - nothing else matters
sim something like 8t 40s to check ur burst potential
Burst potential as Fury 
have u seen me pumping on mm?
true, for arms i would understand
MM burst window is pretty solid, even my 640 alt does numbers my warrior can only dream of
655 awp player

bigger than ww
664
not in 655 yet
Did I stutter?
need bigger weapons
Go BM
Dew it
I believe in Fury buffs, trust
surely raid balance wont be the only thing that matters in WoW
Why would they buff fury
is there a way to make the bloodthirst macro only appear when im playing mountain thane or maybe its already set like that?
what do you mean
make OF great again 
cuz we ask politely 
In "load" window you can select mountain thane only, although I don't understand why you would want to
what trinket are u guys using in M+ since the new changes in the last patch? what sims best for you? im curious to hear other opinions
Cause when I press buttons, I get no dopamine. I sleep 
because i dont raid and if i ever do keys as slayer in keys i do a build that presses bt a lot so i wouldnt need it active on slayer
so i only want it on thane
its still a good WA for ST
Since both of you are cute then okay we buff you 🤭
Monmonk blizz employee confirmed. No take backsies.
Error gets thrown by a library included in Details, but the Callback goes back to ElvUI I think, so looks like an Elv issue
idk looks like you're using some empty string somewhere as a name/nickname that it doesn't like
but yeah you said macro initially i assume you mean a weakaura you just wanna go into the load conditions and make it track smth like thane or some talent you only play as thane
ya i meant wa i had a brain fart
but why do you want to turn it off for slayer
There are 2 blizzard offices near my city, you never know..
because i dont raid and if i play slayer in keys its a bt and execute focused build, feels pointless to have it active when i am always pressing bt
i think they should buff fury solely on "lack of idenitity"
you aren't
you are majorly overpressing bloodthirst if you are just pressing bts in ST as slayer
i dont take rb talents
spear condemn talent goes hard
ya but i stopped using spear i didnt like it. i usually play arms this season but i have fun playing that build
everyone do we have discord for pallys and hunters and other ranged classes?
yes
but if you go from skyhold to those places is like Starting watching sitcoms with friends and the office, everything else is lackluster
Friends 
Is there a fury version of the slayer sudden death weakaura? cus i cant get it to work on fury, only arms
I have updated mine to work for both, but there is one iirc
can you please help a brother out 🙏🏼
Prob ret?
really?
ret by a long shot
Ret utility and same dmg
And buffed st now
damn
True
anyway
were good even prebuff lol
What kind of.keys though??
How’s mountain thane vs slayer performing for m+ rn?
13+
Sweet cope
we can still cope 
oh
Pwarrior does get into keys decently quick. Still, we aint their first pick. Arms do get invites, but only if you are the best option of all that sign. I am yet to be invited to a key as Fury, and in my keys when I invite ppl, they start cussing at me for being Fury and wasting their time.
Fury is great

😎
Wait forgot bout monkass
ive never had someone mad at me for playing fury in a key, even when ive qued as arms first
you are getting cyberbullied, you should start a twitter thread, then the spec will be buffed
Same
all my friend every since i started playing fury
was same with ww last season 
Furys niche is that you make others furious
shit go dev evoker and rescue your friends into death swirlies
might as well play aug lol
nobody inviting an aug
nice feet
🦵
I wonder if Aug gets invite faster than a Fury
exactly nobody inviting fury either
what key range are u getting declined from
Not exactly true, I make groups and just accept Fury warriors. Bringing 3 at a time through 10-12s.
+2 to +20 lol
So there is a chance
i am getting invites jsut takes time to get groups
I have 12s done and i dont get invited to +6 brew for neck farm its that bad
Funkykittie*

maybe you guys have no gear idk
get into groups faster on my alts
tagging into a 6 cmon
i forgot 664 not enuf this late in the season

665
I am behind the curve
and you tell me you are not accepted in a +6 ??
how come
i just did my weekly quest rn
KNOW
getting into 10's in 5s
even tho
reioting
I mean, why would you invite a Fury Warrior, when you can get any other class that does 30-50% more damage
you should join behidn the curve
its a weekly key youre not going to deplete it
i think time of day and region your in can play a part in how people choose to invite
Why are you trying to argue logic to the victim of its irrationalism?
can finish ur 3k later tonight 
cos im playing on the same eu servers as u, with less gear and rio and getting into 10's in 5s
need to play few dragon keys now 🐉
i think guys ret more burst too?
By a landslide more
they more of everything in keys
We dont have burst anymore
we should kiss lets be real
Now not
now 0
not like it could be
decent
but meh
Decent, not popular
recent nerf killed aoe tho
i wanted to roll warrior but i mainly pug m+
Welcome to club Fury
so its a pain in the ass if i dont get ez invites
\o/
mage should be good?
yeppers
depends on what you wanna play
Mage is good, but, I dont invite them - cause 99% of them are asshattier
lol
yeah i also noticed 99% of mages are bad
dunno im just gearing everything this season its really easy
If I beat anyone on overall DP
they should delete their character
stop WoW at all
never come back
fotm rollers be like
i was playing my mage while drunk the other night and got told to go back to M 0's
i have 3k+ on monk getting invites really quick if i try
not getting on arms tho 
They probably should make a new function to WoW, if beaten by Fury Warrior DPS, you get a 2 day timeout to reflect upon your failure.
yes yes, in m+, chill raiderinos
Therefore i would send like 20 people after my weekly quest
i will never understand how raid is still the metric for wow devs whilst you do it once every week get saved and spent 90% of your time in m+ anyway
thats stupid how fury last seaosn got nerfed over raid aswell
close m+ for a month and no amount of raiding can save the game
you gotta be trolling
took 29s
just dont be lowilevel
im sorry
do u have a tank rio ?
maybe its the russian realm
Kazzak very russian 🇹🇷
wait
That moment Cryllics =/= russian
i have few chars on ru real 
cos im pretty sure ig name in cyrillic is a longer queue timer than latin name
Not really
true they love warriors
starting russian on duo lingo to feel at home
people on french realms do at least****
What addon is that for ur lfg?
in wow sometimes yes
Sweet thanks
our rl in ark was french and got roasted every other evening i dunno why xd
us and english propaganda
based
easy pickin
silence american
only europeans get to talk shit about the french
only thing about the french i respect is you just demolishing paris any time the gov tries to move retirement age or anything
id rather have an american talk shit about my country than some guy from latvia tbf
nothing wrong with latvia, just doestn seem right
swordish googling latvia as we speak
tbh I love everyone and will gladly banter with anyone except Hyjal EU and Sanguino EU
/cast demolish
the fact that theres not a skyhold demolish emoji yet is a crime
this is a fury discord
he suffers from ''american''
demolish sucks balls
doesnt deserve an emote

who is from brazil
Balls
I gave them 3 chances
I was getting invited to +8s as fury with like 2.0k rating like a week ago, I'm calling cap
They all failed
easy pickin
Worst thing i ever encountered was french paladin
Don’t call cap
You need to understand the economy of a +6 Cinderbrew
Just joim a 10
Or an 8
6s are harder to join than 8s
Ppl joining 6s are typically 2500 rio
++
If you want a lil troll experiment… put a 6 Cinderbrew in LFG
And c what ppl can choose
See how many people queue up to that MFer
Do someone knows what wa or addon crit uses for the combat text?
And think “how would I stand out in this crowd”
Tbh just go tank if u want that key with 2k rio
Well that’s what I was gonna follow up with
@mossy fox hey mate, big fan!! What wa or addon u using for combat text?
Join his discord. He has all his stuff there.
Thx guys
hey guys one question
Can u link it?
Idk how from my phone but he has a link on his twitch.
The trinket off lockinstock is really good cause you can switch it from AOE to ST when you start bosses.
guys u think its ideal to craft a cloak to have the embellishment of doubling the effect of other neubian item which is the weap ? i have mythic bracer item
is that embellishment mandatory or not much
the fuck is your discord name
not spongie!
aight ill check it out later then, tyty
seems normal !
The fuck is yours
Does anyone know when Mastery hard falls off as the stat to go for? Or do I blindly trust the sims and go for even more?
in the robot we trust
there is really zero reason to try and outthink the robot
Good to know, I just feel like I have so much now xD
Imagine some1 saying blind and robot
Guys. How does one sim trinkets on multi-target for mythic plus.
5T 1min patchwerk is a good reference
I have 21k mastery with no buffs
same here what should our haste be around 20-25%?
simulationcraft it
i know how to sim gear how i sim a single stat and it shows me exactly what?
we don't want to do that
you can't use that info effectively
you just need to sim top gears or droptimizers to figure out what combo of gear to wear that you have in bags or what to farm for in raid/m+
10-4
when should i get pi as uh
when i press dt or ua
thats smart spingus
should i believe sims when it comes to mister lock n stalk
ye its a good tirnket
do you even need to switch the aoe/st modes
better question is there a wa to tell you what mode its in
yeah there is actually
im hoping for one in the vault or drop next week
sure be nice, i would love an deenrage
we all about being enraged, why cant we be like bro you only think your mad, im madder type deal
hahaha right
Trinket is really really good for m+ cause you can change the mode on the fly
im just annoyied in general about trinkets
you think it clears eye for both arms and fury for m+, considering the ramp-up needed for kezan
665 ilvl for both
i passed a mythic seaforium, a few hours before the over sim for m core was released/found out
ya kezan is not really an m+ trinket
I would say yes
ok random question
anyone one konw how to get my in game chat to stop freezing in place and i have to manually scroll it back to the newest messages?
if u sim lockenstalk as patchwerk 5T will it sim as if u are in mass destruction mode automatically or do u have to set it like that
i remember someone saying its an option or something for that
but I dont see it and since i dont have one maybe it shows up if you have one
idk
guys, in method raid tools is there a way to set reminders for when to use cooldowns? doing HC gally and want to make sure i have AOE for adds.
BT or RB prio?
@dense elbow legend
Yes
anyone know if there is a any boss u only need 1 tank or everyone is 2? (for normal)
voices tellin me to level a ret...
oh it was only 100% log there...
💪
💪
Hoy, I just checked, you didnt get a 100 you lier
wdym
🤔
shows when I go to your profile directly
Gz on the maybe 100
On a sidenote, anyone know why this happens:
Why is there one empty duplicate page
I know I am a void, but still
I want to commit to at least 3100 but have no one to play with 
I would suggest joining ya, but... Slayer is kinda 'oh, that is bad, like, real bad' tier.
How about I go Boomkin
allowed to dream

how yall should vote 100%
If Ara-Kara doesn't get into the season people are insane. Sacbrood too stronk.
u should vote for a stonevault for a 1.5min trinket
nah easy dungeons over trinket
SV trinket is really good tho.
EASY OVER LOOT lol
All dungeons are easy if you're good 🤔 🤣
nahh i'm voting floodgate. most fun dungeon
i mean brain dead that u can run in pull whole dungeon and win.. AK u can pull whole dungeon in 5ish pulls not including the bosses
as long as you dont vote for big pull dungeons 
ngl
all of them are bad
Heh, EU forums down for you guys? Last time that happened, the vote jumped immensly

the trinket bias in NA voting rn goes so hard
Ah, ofc, ppl wouldnt vote for what they found the most fun
but for what loot there is to get
i mean personally ill vote for short dungeons, they always seem to be the most fun to run in general
Ye, but there is too many mobs tho
like i genuinely dont really like running city of threads and i dont know anyone that does either
SV
Floodgate
DB
AK
dawnbreak 🤢
if they canf fix the clipping issue with the flying boat when i'm mounted, DB is getting my vote 😭
griefing if ur not picing SV
Are they getting DDOsed again lol
need a 1.5min on use
15 rook... sooo clooooosseee
are rogues cooked? higher ilvl rogue, 500 higher io, and i beat him overall.
or is he just bad
just bad
i want skarm shart damnit
word
making that pushhh
Bruh idk what the fuck to do for MT fury none of the guides are the same
how?
They're 100% nerfing sacbrood into the ground.
I bet they're anticipating these votes going in that direction and preparing accordingly 
bro stonevault was the worst dungeon ever made
clearly someone hasnt played grimrail or iron docks m+
or tol dagor, shrine of the storm, siege of boralus, sanguine depths
fuck grimrail
and the fucking camera clipping
bring back MAW
nah stonveault was way more cringe imo
esp once it scaled
bring back OM: junkyarddd
there's absolutely no way it was anywhere near as bad as tol dagor
i miss those robotttsss
like it's almost impossible to make a dungeon worse than tol dagor
stonevault is the only dungeon I actaully vowed to never do every week
I liked tol dagor
you got to shoot the mobs with turrets
small corridors, littered with bugs, unfair boss mechanics
cannons killing half the dungeon for you
but only if you have a specific group comp
yes I like that
otherwise lmao get fucked
ah
you could pull the last boss during the second boss fight
and it would pull the whole dungeon
S3 should be 1.AK 2.Dawn breaker 3. DFC 4.Rook 5.Maw 6. Atal 7.academy 8. manor
worst dungeon ever, not even close
last boss had great rng, i've seen more than 1 world first key get depleted because the boss just did unhealable spellqueue
this entire expacs dungeons have been trash lol
id take grim butthole again over any of these s2 ones
tha'ts not true
this entire season is actually realyl good
fairly balanced
quick dungeons for the majority
not terrible to pug
cant wait to see all the possible misspellings of geti again
kings rest last boss was fun as fuck imo
or both sides of tazavesh?
and kara lower too fuck it
Geti'Ikku
then, cut of death, not the?
what i would LOVE to see in m+ is deadmines or scarlet monastery
yah uh cata classic already showed me how much ppl dont like deadmines
leaving off the rip if its chosen from random inferno dungeon queue lol
OR wailing caverns and change it to 3 or 2 instance
watch em start just using season of discovery custom raid/dungeons as new stuff in retail
some of these classic and first few expan can be good M+ but some are just stupid long like RFC
has scholo been a m+ at some point?
nope
the oldest is the violet hold from wrath depending if u see if its from wrath or legion
Howdy yall quick question, i know there's a macro for Whirlwind or Slam depending on talents, then Thunder Clap / Whrilwind, I tried combing but couldnt figure it out. is there make a macro to have it be like, if thunder clap talented, thunder clap; else whirlwind; else slam?
if u have TC or WW u shouldnt be using the other also slam isnt used
yeah but to just have 1 key that works with slayer or thane
basically, just lazy and dont wanna move macros around when swapping specs
ahh if thats what u ment then idk if u can
dont think u can because if u have TC u still can use WW but shouldnt
What should our max Mastery be at since the diminishing returns?
w/e the sim says it to be
idk i just follow the lord almighty simc
its what we we learned when we were small babys
#fury message try this
why would u have this tho
If you use an addon that saves talent loadouts but doesn't change your actionbars
Idk if the default talent loadouts have changed this or not, it at least used to be that your actionbars changed if you changed loadout
It's also just a small convenience
It changes in priority based on what talent you got
So it's just all in one filler/aoe enabler
ah weird
if you tc forget ww unless tc is not yellow around it
i usally press ww when theres a circle and i still need to apply some type of damage
so it was just as simple as adding the extra lines. papa bless, ty
yess this is why
unless im missing something if ur playing MT u have TC talented and u still have WW in ur spell book so how does that stop it
no its for meat cleaver
so if MT and TC talented, then it shows that
If Slayer and Meat Cleaver tlaented, shows WW
If Slayer and no MC, then shows Slam
and i use talent load out tweaker so my talents can change by action bars don't so it's for an easy 1 macro covers 3 keys
yeahh. its omega lazy lol
Man season 1 I feel like I never had issues having enough rage on pull for first rampage now it’s consistently just not working
yea sucha bad feeling having to get some filler b4 ramp
RA diff
That’s probably it too
there is a shared Actionbar setting in base i think.
Anbedda
im abed yeah
remove double talent and combine ra and am :0
remove both real
pressing rb first always feelsbad
Whats our mastery softcap?
If you struggle with this, hc throw on pull then reck avatar charge
An amount that doesn't matter. Sim yourself in top gear on raidbots to figure out your stats
i tried to ask this before it seems people dont know
or it doesnt actually exist
Alright, im at 63% just want to know so I can keep eyeballing gear
Ye I remember this suggestion from the other day, I should just do it it’s just an annoyance lol
People don't care to figure it out because it won't change your gearing
Stats are not that black and white
i see, so if mastery actually lost a significant amount of value over the cap someone wouldve figured it out then
All stats lose value if you stack them enough because you simply just get less per stat after a certain threshold
they found a setup that sims best, they weren't looking for a setup that maximized mastery
But some stats are still worth going over this threshold for, it's however all dependant on the rest of your gear
cant really go wrong with mast since we are stil using this bullshit cyrces
i am surprised blizzard did not nerf cyrces
they went out of their way to nerf mechanacore
They did
Just not by enough depending on how you look at it
As Arms I've already replaced it, as Fury I'll still use it for all of prog
ebem if u get a sacrificial ofeering and get a jasper. jasper just compliments cyrces even more
is it common for classes to have old-content items be BiS even into the entire next season?
i really dont see 2 678 rings outperforming iot
No
HEllo
They try to make an effort in making previous season gear worse
Where can I find guides regarding fury rotation> I checked the pins and FAQ but couldnt find anything
yo bro apocalypse, whats ur io rn
press every button as fast as u can. and p[ray and hope casino class wins
3222
at my IO yes
Thanks, any specific guide would you recommend? or are they all the same?
but i bet 3k would stil have isssues
bruh
oh sorry yuou were the one who answered, any specific guide would you recommend?
No, pick whichever you like the layout and format of the most
maybe in a few weeks it will be easier 
They all show basically the same information
2988 and it’s easily an hour to get into an io key for me lmao
thank you
you noobs






