#fury
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If that's what your group needs in a key, and prio damage from whatever other specs you're playing with is more than filled, then pick as you want
Either spec is playable in any key
Both specs feel really good in keys ngl
Thane is kinda like what fire mage was when it was brought for prio damage that one tier
@oblique trail thoughts?

Also just curious cause I missed quite a bit of tuning stuff when I was taking a break.
Is it me or is ThunderBlast/Thunderclap lagging behind RB and BT damage since they buffed them after the talent changed?
Feels like a wet noodle comparatively to before

Okay glad to see I'm not just whack for thinking that.
its still 14-18% of my damage in keys, depending on how lucky i get
I mean the other base abilities got boosted so much
yeah it's fine but should be buffed, doesn't feel that good to press considering it's the important flavor ability of thane
ive talked about this before but ground current being so limp when its soft capped is wack to me
it wouldn't address our damage in larger groups
but it might feel less bad if it was just straightup uncapped
101k is with enrage, obviously
incidental damage because of random stuff isn't great either but its already there
yeah maybe, I do dislike passive damage though but that's a personal thing
I don't discriminate, give me any damage you've got, thx.
I mean yeah I'll take anything tho
if thunder blast was made 8 targets or it got 5-10% i'd be happier with it
Wizards have no scruples, we can't either. 🙂
I just want thane to have bres. Target a dead ally and clap on top of their corpse as a defibrillator. And my dopamine would offset the target cap
Oh yeah, soft capping us to 5 and also removing the talents that caused blizz to soft cap us to 5 targets in the first place feels like a negative IQ move but then again I'm not a game dev.
yeah idk why they gutted titan's torment without returning odyn's fury back to relevance
yeah we have so much dead talents after those buffs
and if they're concerned about it overtaking other capstones there's things to be done about that too
We already did tbh but now it's worse
a strong odyn's fury isn't going to resolve fury's AoE dispartiy in keys though
Should be baseline imo
they're probably careful with it now, don't wanna repeat s1 fury incident, we're an instant burst class after all
not any more lmao
our consistent damage is very strong now though and that's the profile that was evidently picked for us
is this instant burst in the room with us right now
I mean our kit, we don't build damage like say unholy, the changes fucked odyn
How do I find m+ discords? I'm an oceania player, do they exist? lol
being able to do consistent keys without 70% downtime trying to pug would be incredible
i just tried the dude's build, it performed better than any other slayer build i tried + i find it very close to performance against my thane setup
6-7m dps on huge pulls, saw 8-9 million peaks
what build
that is not very good
lol
this build
no its okay. let the fury warrior have it. this is a support group
that is not very good compared to to other specs in the game or against thane?
against thane
well i have to sweat from my ass to be able to pull that dmg off on thane in my own experience in big pulls xD
how so
thane is easy asf
Fury or Arms for max dps? and why?
?
If all you care about is making your overall look good, then Arms
yeah that build is probably a bit better if mobs die fast, although spear for m+ is a bit yikes
Im new. Looking how to get the most out of my toon
didnt mean that in the "hard to play" way
im not using spear
Just don't press it 4Head
they probably changed it for roar
does best in slots lose alot of value if u have an on use trinket?
Ah fuck I'm not in any right now but I bet you can find one pretty quickly. Gimme a sec to google it lol.
arms for big aoe, fury for 5 tar cleave, roughly equal ST, arms has more execute phase and 2tar cleave
its not 1-1 bro.. like look:
Why would Slayer be any better in lower keys? The ST fights are even shorter 
Only thing Slayer got going for it is the ST DPS. The AoE burst only exists if RNG allows the unghinged reap dream (and even that is pretty bad)
Is there a trick to breaking people out of the disk-mc on mythic rik? Seems like they always just die to our damage
lacking raging blow talents has to feel so limp in ST
slayer bursts a bit harder while thane has a smoother damage curve and a bit less burst
Yes, don't get hit by it
If you mean in the intermission, if you are hit it's basically death
yoıu get so many executes and rage that it kinda feels okay, blows become a filler
only beam MC can be broken.
Look up Mythic Plus Friends
So if we have a tank that loves intermission disks, we're hooped?
Yes unless you always have a CR ready for when they mess up every intermission
there is no reason to ever tank them
so yea
idk
open eyes gamers
!
I played Execute build a lot in S1 for fun, it is quite strong for what it is. As long RNG doesnt decide to scuff your AJ on bosses.
It is weaker than RB, as execute is quite weak, but it is a lot better than one would initially think without playing it.
Not to mention, it is the most Slayer-feel playstyle.
You don't have any thing else to do during that time if you're not a healer. Just tell them to focus on dodging.
also if you play warrior on rik reverb and you dont go defensive stance you deserve a tranq shot in your ass
irl
👍
can u not use armory for top gear?
Technically you can
I understand it won't show my bags but I wanna sim something and I'm not at home
You just gotta convert it to a simc input first through quick sim
I meaaaaann
Search your character in quick sim, press convert to simc input, then paste it in top gear
It's a very real thing if all you want is just to compare your currently equipped gear to something
Okay and what if you're not at home to do this
People can forget to do it when they're home, but need it to be finished before they're home, for raid loot purposes
Hello, we can use Doggenfogger now or not ?
After the hotfixes to it, it's not worth using over alternative options
It no longer does enough damage to make up for the fact that the mob you spawn can die
use Mecha Gore?
If you have it sure, but just use top gear sims to get an idea based on your options
brother scroll up
whooooosh
what do we craft
#dps-faq has recommendations
Check through top gear and craft options there based on what high ilvl slots you already have, if you already have a weapon and want to craft armour embellishments
this is so stupid im trying to kill underpin ?? but i have to repair everytime
im new to fury so i need to craft al;;
Long story short is
675 weapon if no myth track weapon yet
If you have a myth track weapon already then 2x dusk/dawnthread on 2 armour pieces
well ye
Would still recommend just doing a top gear sim on raidbots to figure out your options if you want to be completely certain
unfortunately a lot of people dont put that much effort into their characters
Huh
was
mr lockandstalk buffed
or sth
bloodmallet has it simming 2nd highest on ST
Yes, almost every damage trinket was buffed around a week ago
I thought of going RA on vexxie 
keep up grandpa
Think that one needs to go back in the oven bud
nah Spongie COOKED
with this one
Me when no bis
I have a question about House of Cards trinket. Is it used on pre pull or what is the best trick to use it?
press it with ava
i got a question i have some crit item and sim is saying its better than haste/mastery/vers items but i see other ppl will full haste+mastery items
Goober
Would it be smart to macro it with Avatar?
ngl those look really good
trust simulationcraft if your sim isnt set up badly
ye sure i do that
It's the same cd why not?
Just asking mate, got it from our HC re run yesterday.
Yeah fk it keep life easy
Thanks for the answers mate, appreciate it 🙂
Best-In-Slots
Can it still have its equip passive proc when:
A) You're under the active effect buff
B) When the active is on cd
?
I did a quick google but working- dropping this here to check later for hopeful answer
leave the cooking to the pros
yes
yes
crit is not our top stat but doesnt mean its irrelivant especially if you are way over hast/mastery cap
what is the mastery cap
Trick question
is there a % number or estimate?
I just listen to the robot

its 4 am and after 4 hours of trying to get into 13s, I got into dfc and timed it
we're so back
no idea if this is good damage
9 kicks is diabolical
classic fotm ret 
So I had the option of myth track pacemaker from vault on Tuesday and a mechano core. I simmed took mechano core and now I get fucked cool 😦
knowing the hard cap % if it exists will allow u to use the robot to better plan out what gear to go for
i pretty much had the same situation
such is life
Guys how do u sim raid cleave ?
that count 5 min non-stop
? What do u even mean? The sims is calculating 5 min of 2 targets non-stop
for the whole 5 min duration
Change patchwerk to cleave add
Hectic might be the case at stix i gues, so Cleave Add it is
ty
Delve trinkets hit different this expac
better than pacemaker or house of cards
on pure ST
kinda nuts
Lock n Stalk also sims better in ST than those two
at least for me
is lock n stalk consistent or highly variable
what about compared to the consistency of seaforium pacemaker
variance on lockenstock isnt too bad probs
seaforium is a 50% uptime trinket it doesnt have variance
Yeah i dont get it. I vaulted a normal eye kezan only for a delve trinket to beat it this week :/
tf dont do that
dont take a normal item from vault
Turbo-Drain still sims better than anything else on "Cleave add" wtf ?
idk aoe trinket sims are a bit bait in general
on Hectic add cleave it did replace it with Pacemaker
Only thing was good. I socket last week and this week
zero decent mythic dungeon items from vault?
you skip myth track for eye of kezan?
champion track kezan?
i got heroic kezan 🧐
that's the only trinket i don't have 😄
Kezan is lowkey not as good as it's made out to be unless you regularly have encounters that are longer than 5 minutes
why would you say that
Champ eye. I ran first 10+ last week. N got aotc. Weak trinket n a parry wrists this week
for emotional support
From the wowhead guide. 665 is 0.01% worse than 662 
nah no way we just recommended hectic add cleave
Should only sim Patchwerk imo
mr cbt trinket
Archs new Twitter picture ❤️ does it still scale off hp ?
Why would you sim HAC?
Because it's the only relevent sim for Stix ?
that reminds me, can u actually get mythic track eye of kezan, capital punisher, Best-In-Slots, etc from the dungeon slots in the vault if u do the +10s?
no
or can u only get those items in the vault if u actually kill bandit/gallywix on mythic difficulty
2
dungeon vault slots are dungeon loot only
No. Raid gear from raiding. Dungeon gear and tier pieces from dungeon slots.
Really just need to kill Gally on Mythic once and you’ll have the entire loot table of the raid unlocked for vault
like once ever?
Yes
It used to be just bosses you’ve killed
But it got changed to any loot to bosses through what you’ve beaten once on that difficulty
Since Gally is the end boss it unlocks everything
so u can kill mythic gallywix once, then do only 8/8 heroic every week for the rest of the season and u can get mythic track eye of kezan in ur vault every week? @chilly fractal
so u can kill mythic gallywix once, then only do mythic cauldron/vexie for the rest of the season and u can get mythic track eye of kezan from that one slot?
yes
or first boss bracers
Right
the more likely answer
combust
The cloak
idk man just sim patchwerk you should not be optimizing around stix adds
is there any other specs that have to set their loot spec as something else
like we have to set to arms so we get only 2handers, any other specs have to do something like that?
arcane does, or used to at least
outlaw wants dagger offhands they can't get naturally
What is on their loot table for 1 spec that isn’t on the other 2?
they can get some weird mana healer trinkets
Giving back to the community
see, someone invites you
i always decline dps warriors if im lead

if im not allowed to they shouldnt be either
Wouldn't you have to kill bandit for the bis?
not if you kill last boss
Were y'all orcs?
arent these numbers bad? genuine question not hate
yall how do you fight vexie mythic without wanting to barcode oneself
what do u mean?
oil
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3xXMaVUA9HjGy5qNukNpWk mechano + energy drink really better?
delve trinkets outperform for same ilvl ye
As Gio had said - if you kill Gally for example you can get Bandit loot in the vault… any boss loot since he’s the last one
If you kill a boss in the raid you are eligible from then on all the loot off that boss and all bosses prior to that in future vaults
guys what's the easiest spec to pug 3k on without having to do your own keys? veng dh?
any healer and if dps pallyu
I already got heroic eye of kezan that you have to wait to ramp so long lol
I wouldn't want mythic :-p
easiest gameplay wise is probably disc priest
legit passenger gameplay
not gameplay wise easiest invite wise
besides trinkets, shields, and one handers, is prot loot spec any different from arms loot spec?
Kinda avg for Fury Warriors, but more than enough to get a 10 done o7
no
BASED
are those ur homies or did u specifically look to invite fury warriors for charity purposes lol
Just rando Fury Warriors from que
I know they dont get invited that often, so why not be the change you want to see
is the oil different on mythic than heroic?
theres more
in heroic I just stand in front of boss, I'm assuming its not that simple on mythic?
just killed it was clean nvm vexie is chill
Guys: my logs are shocking this season. Having had a look at Mythic Vexie. wanted to ask the question:
My CD are up a whole 20 secs before boss takes 100% dmg. Am i to hold for this long????
the amp phase lasts long enough that you should get another set of cooldowns before it's over
^
no way you hold cds
if you are parsing
you send on cd
the damage phase is not included
so am i getting a shit parse because im missing being enraged 100% of the time? I note 2 ish abilities not under enraged?
depends how far the boss is from ur cyclers and if u throwing it on them
thats where i lose dmg
too far to cleave 🙂
also boss is well in oil
love tanks that step a toe nail outside
@remote bobcat if u do 8 +10 motherlode's and those are the only mythic +s u do the entire week, will your 3 dungeon vault slots only have motherlode gear in it? or gear from all 8 dungeons regardless?
all 8
if only that how it would work 😦 i would love that
Low key I wouldn’t mind it working that way
Reasonable way to target aquire items
From M+ pool
entire pool
a follow up question, does drop rate from wowhead matter? like if u farming for a .02% vs 6%
end of dungeon loot
dahell u mean damage phase not included
not really, drop rate is dependent on the people in your group
2 loots on 2 people -> item chosen on their loot spec from the entire loot table
so for example floodgate trinket (with arms loot spec) -> 2/5 chance to be one of the two who gets the loot x 1/6 bc 6 items so 6.6%
100/6.6 = around 15, on average (i don't remember what it is called maybe not average) you need to run 15 floodgates to have the item
wait i thought this was the damage phase
its sending in bikes
lol
a little bit of trolliing
Yeah, bike damage isn't counted the same way rolling trash damage isn't counted on stix, it would get pretty ridiculous
i would have believed it if it was the damage amp the way wcl does shit
which is why i just auto assumed it
I'm using this macro. With Thunderous Roar being cast at the same time, does it still benefit from Recklessness' +20% chance to crit and Avatar's +20% dmg?
Are their effects immediate? Or does there need to be some fraction of a second for them to take effect, making Thunderous Roar needed to be cast separately?
It's used in the order that you place them
So Roar would be affected by both Reck and Avatar in this macro
However it really doesn't matter much if it is, because the majority of Roar's damage is the dot
why house of cards is behind lens and suspicious on simdps ?
depends oni your current gear
is there anything worth dropping for bitter immunity this week for affix? or is it just "healer affix" week
just press IV
did they change it to a heal absorb? thought it had to be dispelled
healed or dispelled
both work
I usually dispel my squishy class and then try to aoe heal the rest off on hpal
oh, thats good then . tyvm
no they changed it
if you down mythic gallywix it unlocks EVERYTHING before
Is Mister Lock-N-stalk any good for multi target for us? All the sim and bloodmallet data I looked up seems to only be for SP mode, which sims worse in 5 target than my s1 trinket.
ah oki, thanks
I'm just pressing buttons and numbers go up and things fall down
This spec is nuts
This may be a stupid question, but should you press Rampage on 80 rage or 100+? The wowhead guide says Raging Blow/Bloodthirst over rampage if you're under 100 rage but other sources seem to imply that you should hit it if it's available.
do not look at rage
if u have 2x raging blow
spend one and then rampage
so u dont miss a proc
if you are 130 rage then rampage no matter what ofc
??? brother
Man is throwing bts left and right
??? king
@warm crag 7
7
have u ever actually chosen the vibe over the sim B4 @gilded pawn
we haven't even killed gallywix on heroic (social guild) but I was pleasantly surprised with my chest this week
yeah
i click all passive trinkets
all damage trinkets
gz ....... im happy for you...... seriously
Some get the jastor diamond, me? I get knock off tier shoulders
what benefit do u get from spending at least 1 of ur 2 raging blows B4 rampaging
Pretty sure you only do this after bladestorm
that seems grief
rampage has a chance to reset raging blow
After bladestorm you get a 20% buff to rampage damage, so you want to do at least 2 raging blows before you rampage so that in total you buff rampage by 60%
If you get lucky with raging blow resets you go higher but most times it's just 2 raging blows
what else can reset raging blow besides rampage
If you're going for cdr like critcake does on say reverb then you just full send rampage
Raging blow has a chance to reset itself
if u got house of cards would u use some giga shit trinket in comparison instead
Now that I think about it, if you get really lucky, you can buff up your rampage by about 210% damage if the stars align
Unless the damage buffs don't add together then I'd be wrong
How does the prio with BT and RB change with thane? Or is it still just BT at 85% crit
different sources multiply
Same prio as single target just replacing ww with thunderclap
Maybe its just me. I find I get better dps with Mountain Thane then Slayer.
And I mean single target wise not multi
it is just you king
You might be doing something wrong in slayer then
Maybe. Not sure what
Sim says my dps should be at least 2mil while Mountain Thane is at 1.6. Yet I barely scratch 1.3 with Slayer
And im consistant with 1.6 to 1.8 with Mountain Thane that i've tested
that is incredibly wrong ya
if you have a log toss it into wowanalyzer
or read a guide
Can you send the link from raid bot so we can see your gear and stuff
are you including buffs in your sim? You also may be doing your rotation incorrectly for slayer
cause ST slayer is still higher than MT
Not sure how to do that
link the sim
Do you sim with raid bot or simulation craft program
mr cbt op
Going by the rotation on WoW head also
I know my ilvl is not up there. But still. I feel like I've gone up in everything since season one and my dps feels like it got worse
Mythics when I attempt. Bosses in lfr. Delves bosses. Hell even the tester dummy
Delves are weird so ignore them
And the sim is showing you with ideal buffs and rotations
Also I feel like Thane just crits more
I.e all raid buffs , flask, pots, augment , etc
Yeah I kinda figured. But to not break 1.3 single target even with opener burst?
I usually open with popping cd's. charge, WW, then RB, RB, BT and Rampage
Then go from there
do u guys like my macro
lol nice. I used to have that. Mine was titled F*** my life. Then I stopped trying lol
If it's single target never cast ww
do not press this
Why did I read WW is part of the rotation then?
thanks Gio
man i love dying on stix because my ball people dont get their scrapmaster
That's the multi target rotation
So whos the best source for talent tree and rotation atm?
Cause my info is conflicted
In single target you pre pop CD charge rampage then bladestorm
This discord / wowhead in my opinion
The theory crafter here arch updates the wowhead guide and does an amazing job keeping it and this discord #dps-faq updated
So check the fury section of FAQ or wowhead guide
lol tbh I kinda miss the days of hit/exp and stacking crit and str lol. Simpler times
Simpler times but I like retail better
nothing brings me greater joy bricking people's 12 keys learning prot because they won't inv me as fury
also its like
your opener is 5 seconds
in a 5+ minute fight
if you fuck up your opener who cares
Best advice, sit down for a good minute and read the wow head guide, sim yourself without any buffs but battle shout, and then do some testing on target dummies
failing to see when Mass Destruction would ever be useful... like half the damage split
If you're really struggling try hekili
There are better trinkets for AOE, however it's a high proc Chance meaning it'll do that damage split amongst targets often
equiping is on gcd now 
So even with 10 targets that's an extra 60k damage on each target per proc
is it?
its not
i just used it
does everything
So it's not the best aoe trinket but it's better than nothing
yea sounds useless
And when reaching a boss you can swap to precision
What I'm saying is if you have nothing better it's not the absolute worst
yippie?
changing weapons is on gcd so you would have to spam it? I used to use similar in pvp lol
so it would taunt before you were fully setup
I had forgotten how cool AM was, just send it and fuck it
won't work when you got a Best-In-Slots or Capital Punisher in your offhand btw
ok guys im sorry for trying to be funny
swifty 1 live
well anyone who has played warrior for a long time has thought of making a similar macro :p
when i was like 12 in wod i made a swifty "DEFENSIVE" macro that was literally every healing item and like pvp stamina trinket and defensive my class had
definitely some top tier shit
yifeng
balls tier
crazy gif
may i give you advice
Actually no 3 on last pull technically
humble advice
Yeah shoot
defensive stance is the best ability in the game on that boss
clipping fire is 2mil dmg
and always go for melee kicks
fish for them
if every melee does it
then u win
i mean if they're in melee yea not hard to kick
main issue for us is rolling into crabs or not picking up scrapmasters
surely we figure that outa nd it just falls over
assigned kicks why
el cringo it barely works out cuz people get lazy with other kicks and end up dropping uptime for assigned kick
and for a melee??
yea it happens
tell em
that you have gotten advice from stix killers
and they said
that melee kick assignemnts are more confusing that helping
coolio
Question, what is it between the crafted greataxe and greatsword that makes the greatsword craft the reccomended choice between them in the wowhead bis list?
The higher low end dmg?
So its all samesame
axe is probably cheaper
The dps on both is identical its just the sword having lower max and higher base
Axe is higher max and lower base
Ty for the answer
is it worth crafting feet piece since the other pieces i have are tier pieces and i can't catalyze crafted pieces?
Did you craft your embellishments first?
ye, got the cloack and vambraces done
use dn
I have 665 trinket, why isn't my 658 one free of crests? do I need both trinkets on 665?
yes
fuck
golden turtle fried rice crackers (hot)
that stuff doesnt matter anymore
it would for classic but all abilities just kinda do their own dmg without relying on weapon damage exactly
Alr cool
the only stat that matters on weapons
is weapon dps
in the brackets below damage range
and its the same on all crafted
same on all weapons of the same ilvl
they still havent fixed orange smoldy sword lol
I know everyone says to Sim it. But I am just curious from a non sim perspective. I know we get all these buffs that give us more crit. But how low would crit have to be on the stat screen that it might make a difference? Maybe I am still old school minded and my hardcore raiding days werent filled with simulations. We had to balance out stats.
Is there a difference between having 7% crit vs 15% crit?
i mean yea chances are if you have like a single digit % of a stat you prolly wanna focus a little more on that
Is the difference so minute you cant tell?
I'm sitting between 7-9% crit depending on spec.
it just tends to be the case that including reck which gives 20% critrate a lot of other talents/tierset gives some of our abilities extra crit so its not very valuable for fury at the moment
With flask 12%
for arms crit's definitely pretty important tho
Just tryna figure out when does it become worth it to lets say sacrifice 5% mastery for like 5% crit.
atm im at 55% mastery
yea i mean those kind of number comparisons you can really never figure out by hand you just kinda have to sim with the robot
but 55 isnt that high i dont think
some ppl might get closer to 60 or possibly above that too
if I flask it its 61%
but my haste is at 21% and crit at 7%
Guess I will test it and see what happens
yea i mean can see how it feels but specific % comparisons is like the entire bread and butter of the robot
the general rule of equip the higher ilvl piece can be done by anyone and usually it pans out that way but more for once youre close to max gear or at least the max gear you can get for the week is when it's more reasonable to play with stat differences like swapping flasks/gems/enchants if you want
but shit can get expensive
Does Best-in-Slots interfere with signet of the priory when casting them both in a macro?
pacemaker is so depressing to farm
yes
cant put them in a macro
you can put bis on like recklessness or something
guys this week should I spent my gilded crests on 678 crafted belt, or should I craft it as a 658 from the free crest from quest, and spend the gilded crests on upgrading my myth track gloves, ring or neck instead?
for it to sorta offcycle from the trinket and be used too
why belt?
best scenario ofc is if u can find a keybind for the weapon itself cuz if put on reck it could prevent you using signet when you want to
belt good
because I fucked my 2H craft so wrist + 2H wep is DOA
and wrist gives few stats
doa?
but also can sim upgrading any of those pieces vs making belt
and the crafted belt is close to BIS anyway
would say maxxing a ring/neck not as important as strength from the other pieces
i never seen anyone pick belt since DF i think
i have a belt
i mean it really doesnt matter what you pick
got a mythic cape week 1 out of vault
just the way the cookie crumbles
belt also has decent stat budget
so nice to have early on
im doing something kinda stupid which is not upgrading any 1/6 hero track items because I can get high watermark as 3/6 from M+ dungeons so I feel like its a waste of gilded
what is high watermark
but upgrading 1/6 is runed crests not gilded
depends how many excess runed you have
yeah runed I mean sorry
high watermark is when you drop a higher ilvl item for a slot
that highest ilvl is your high watermark
at beginning of season yea should only have upgraded 3/6 but now we're 2 weeks past how many runed you needed for that so you can drop some runed on 1/6 if you want
just maybe not every single 1/6 you have
and anything else you have for that slot can now be upgraded for just valorstones
idk how many 658+ pieces n runed you got
but its not like a massive loss to upgrade 1/6 with runed anymore so feel free if you have extra
because yeah you're right I dont really need runed anyway
ty ❤️
ok looks like I have 180 runed atm
so I can probably max them all with spare
so no point in holding anymore
can upgrade 4 1/6 hero pieces
if u got more than that maybe hold off till you get some higher ilvls

4/8 champ set helmet, 1/6 set chest, 1/6 belt (most likely replaced with crafted), 1/6 pants, 1/6 feet
I have been insanely unlucky with drops last week from 10s 😭
did like 8 10s and only got 3-4 drops or something
and most were shit trinket and dupes
hmm actually I dropped a hero track helmet from my HC raid earlier but I dont have any more catalysts lmao ripgg
yea i mean if you craft and get like literally 1 3/6 item in those slots can prolly have 658 everything
should still give crest discount
to upgrade your normal
yeah too bad simming every option maxes me the fuck out
can also try ring/neck tho think those would be lower than each of those
even tho im paying for tier 2 sub 
yer
lol what the fuck
so uh
I did the sim with my crafted wrists and the belt
both having duskthread lining and writhing armor banding
for some reason, both of them having duskthread lining sims higher than one of them having writhing armor banding? 
is it thinking you can have two of the same embellishment and ignoring the unique?
also it should be the exact same result since the writhing armor banding just doubles it, right... ?
You can have 2 of the same embellishment
It just stacks
Also writhin armour banding has nothing to do with dusk/dawnthread, it only affects ascension on your weapon
lining are not nerubian embellies
wait what
You either have ascension on weapon + armour banding, or 2x dawn/duskthread
it says in desc which is nerubian
i received pacemaker heroic track off this loot as well
Thats single target
5 bosses is 5 targets im p sure
5t 1m for m+
Oh sorry my bad
but i go with patchwork 5 bosses or dungeon slice?
thanks for the replies guys ❤️
patchwork 5 bosses
and no BL ^^
Oh, will do Fley, thanks
Yes there will be a difference but overall as fury you shouldn't be focused on crit, your stat worries should be more towards having enough haste and mastery
Plus the more raging blows you do the more often you'll crit with bloodthirst
As every raging blow gives you bt a 15% crit chance buff stacking up to 75%
ashen juggernaut 90% crit rate technology
i had ashen juggernaut on 80% uptime, IN MYTHIC+
self report
with mechano core and eye of kezan out of the question, what Equip trinkets are the best? Pacemaker and ???
bro i got so many procs
cards
Equip ones only, not use
self report
lockenstock i guess idk
wdym self report
self report
it's when you're the imposter and you kill someone then report the body yourself
Yall I have a myth pacemaker in bags, but its not out-simming my 658 mechano and energy drink until I upgrade it all the way to 678, and it's like a 0.1% increase at that point lmao
that's what you just did
Hi all, the Log reivew channel is blocked. How do I get access to post in there?
nevermind, I scrolled down to "newest" messages. Sorry!
seeing as it provides crit can maybe try to shift crit off of some other pieces if possible or swap enchants/gems to see if there’s a bigger gain or not
Yeah I did a bunch of sims trying to offload as much crit as possible, and I was still only seeing about 0.1% increase

The beast
It actually is noticeably better once I craft offhand
666

oh 2set is a bit weak, let's make it increase crit chance by even more
now it's 99.8% instead of 99.7%
Do we play around Burst of power procs or na? I don't see it on wowhead priority list
no
I assume if we're playing properly we build enough crit to send the bts anyway before the buff runs out.
You’re pressing bt semi regularly enough you’ll just consume the procs either way. I think this only changes if you’re running vicious contempt and are in execute range. Bt hits really hard there.
But this is only cos you want to prioritise bt a bit more instead of the proc, the proc just resets the cool-down
whered she get her license
am confused on what to take I simed but I think its more worth to take the myth shoulders for the main status
dungeon slice :3
3 minute dungeon slice
help please patchwerk is better O.O my friend recommend these settings
is it better now xd
always sim patchwork imo
I just wanna say, goodbye pirate friend, I'll always keep you in my heart and vault
ty
should capital punisher be in my main hand best in slots in off hand ?
i hadn't thought about it
ok i didn't know if the runoff proc would be more active in main hand
cause i have both at 665
what if its a proc whenever u hit and u dont play focus in chaos
chatting
1 leg build
not sure what that has to do with anything
and how would that affect whether you have it in your mainhand or offhand?
so can mainhand?
wait really
Didn’t even know miss was still a thing
i thought only offhand can miss on dual wielding
no, both can
y we always play focus in chaos
removes missing
even when we didnt press bloodthirst in df s1 it was still worth talenting into fresh meat just to reach focus in chaos
its for spells too right
Bring back hs queue for no more miss chance
like rb/exe
spells cant miss
ah fair
pretty sure they did away with that in mop or something
its expired...
Wod I think it was
rip
wait are you not supposed to be able to get a gem slot in your belt?
I thought that was one of them
Helmet, belt and bracers can have sockets in them, either when you loot them or you can add one with 6 tokens from the vault
The vault item is also the only way to get sockets on crafted pieces
yeah but I crafted the belt and it didnt come with a socket slot
wtf
I swear my bracers had a socket slot on them when I crafted them
I'm so confused 
They did not
I can confirm that for you
But if you had it in Season 1, recrafting it to Season 2 will remove the socket
I must have grabbed the vault coin thing and put it on without realizing then..?
I have S1 bracers with socket
on rick reverb mythic are we beholden to the random barrel spawns to do any significant damage to them
I feel like IM switchign and doing nothing still even holding cds
Yes
@bednezi
On Rik you just hope the barrels spawn close to the boss or gg go focus them down
@anballsda
ballsezi
does someone have a tier set tracker weakaura?
is there any weakaura similar to the bloodthirst one for using execute as slayer?
whats up u sxy motherZuggers
wanting to backflip off a very high bridge
how bout you
being declined to a 3 makes me hate everything
ctrl+f "sd conditions"
just look at a random log
I'm not an expert but I'm pretty sure all this tells you and us is that you pressed buttons and did damage
no sarcasm
when spamming raging blow after a bladestorm to build up for brutal finish, if enrage is falling off do i send the rampage early or do i let it fall off to get a bigger rampage?
guys we killed stix but i got ball 2 times should i be happy or sad
If you have a global and raging blow, spend it on raging blow and let it fall off. If you don’t have a global before it falls off hit rampage. Losing 2/3 of your damage on raging blow won’t be made up by an extra stack
W answer thanks
whats up u sxy motherZuggers
Though in saying that unless I get super lucky on resets I never run out of time on enrage before I run out of raging blow. I get 3 sometimes 4 before I run out of enrage or charges
Are you doing rampage -> roar -> bladestorm or just rampage -> bladestorm
When I do opener I got like 1 global of enrage left sometimes
Hit a peak of 8.5 mil in cinderbrew 
I do rampage blade storm dump raging rampage roar
Incorrect, you rampage to refresh enrage over stacking for BF
not what xan said a month ago

but good either way
raging blow spam boring and mid
actions.slayer+=/rampage,if=!buff.enrage.up|buff.slaughtering_strikes.stack>=4
actions.slayer+=/crushing_blow,if=action.raging_blow.charges=2|buff.brutal_finish.up&(!debuff.champions_might.up|debuff.champions_might.up&debuff.champions_might.remains>gcd)
actions.slayer+=/thunderous_roar,if=buff.enrage.up&!buff.brutal_finish.up
actions.slayer+=/execute,if=debuff.marked_for_execution.stack=3
actions.slayer+=/bloodbath,if=buff.bloodcraze.stack>=1|(talent.uproar&dot.bloodbath_dot.remains<40&talent.bloodborne)|buff.enrage.up&buff.enrage.remains<gcd
actions.slayer+=/raging_blow,if=buff.brutal_finish.up&buff.slaughtering_strikes.stack<5&(!debuff.champions_might.up|debuff.champions_might.up&debuff.champions_might.remains>gcd)
Personally I only do RB for BF outside of reck
there sure is some words there
Then a BM hunter DK comes in and pulls 25+ million dps. On the first pull
The conditional was fairly minimal in general
You just don’t press stuff if you’re out of enrage unless you can’t press rampage. Afaik it’s okay to let it drop off if the global you press is enraged and the next global will be rampage
Correct because Rampage will enrage before its own damage
So mash raging blow til you run out of enrage then press rampage
Send help
Not gonna catch me losing sleep over that
Wasn't sure of the exact number
Because I knew the conditional looked stupid
I mean it's probably the same simc profile innit 
I still do it on Sprocketmonger
Because the CDR doesn't really matter on that fight
But any other boss you will not catch me doing it
Idk just feels bad overcapping so hard during reck
Hence why I don't do it during reck
It let me go
We spent all of S1 being overcapped
But it seems like if I don't do it during reck I might as well not do it
Is your guild asleep or
We had someone get dc and they became invulnerable
So we had to sit here until it fixed.
Yeah but overcapping with old RA vs overcapping with AM are very different
Banezi the simc profile is still using amplifier 
Pretty sure Archi is the one who deals with that
My understanding is that's the profile that's used for the chart on the simc site https://simulationcraft.org/reports/TWW2_Raid.html
But idk who actually ever looks at that
Also like who fuckin cares
I'm just xddchatting
A lot of people very likely but for reasons that don't matter
I think Archi said the amplifier fix is only like 0.2% anyways
which isn't nothing but when devoker is 2.934 and sin rogue is 2.464, there are bigger concerns
Maybe
Warrior numerically is in such a good spot I really am not remotely busy being aware of what other classes sim
As long as it's not unplayably bad, then that's fine with me
Lowkey I think other classes TCs just run it down
Like warrior is for sure strong rn, but some classes are down horrendous in sims and then just fine in raid
so after bladestorm are we meant to press raging blow 5 times to stack up slaughtering strikes?
Okay genuine question
or rather as many rbs as possible before charges run out
Did you read the previous ~20 messages?
we literally just talked about this
I even ran the sims on how worth it it was to do
The answer is you press RB as long as you're enraged and have charges, up to 5xSS if you ever make it there (which you probably wont) but it's extremely minor and you probably won't notice a difference if you don't do it
Yea it’s minmax entirelyF you can just ignore slaughtering strikes and just take it as some passive damage amp now and then
I'm so often dodging <insert mechanic here> thats just what it is lol
Anyone got a good 4 set weakaura ?
This one includes the crit buff from the 4pc (which is the only thing you care about) #updates-midnight message
what trinkets u guys using in M+?
i dont know what to use everything seems to sim below mechano+kezan which is weird to me
for AOE
fairly certain this is post-prune
but also it literally doesnt matter
0.1% diff
I just yoinked it from the latest simc profile idk
Honestly the simstack balance is pretty good rn
that rng on frost dk tho
can you check damage on an enemy while it has a certain buff on it
or u have to make some cringe query/expression thing for it
Depends on the buff, if it's just one time you can simply highlight that section of the fight to filter duration
if it's an aura that's up several times though, you'll need some kind of query to filter it
if it's one of your de/buffs though, like Enrage, there should already be some auto-detected aura filters just under the timeline graph
thinkin bombshells have their territorial buffs when they're stuck on trash so damage on those while they have the buff
to see whos trying to break them off
yeah those you have to use a query, there's no auto parse for it
cuz me and like 3 other melee are just playing connect the dots with all of them
ruff
resources.hpPercent >= 80 AND target.name = 'Territorial Bombshell'
You can use this query to check for how much damage is done to them above 80%
Do you guys feel fury warrior AoE feels undertuned? I simmed my fury warr and had like 4.5m on 5 dummies (5 minutes) while my pally/shaman are simming like 5.5m~6m
I mean definitely fury isn’t kinda meh in aoe when compared to the strong aoe specs. If the dungeon pulls were artificially forced to lower target counts, fury would be pretty good probably
So like ToP fury can compete on a closer level to some of the big aoe specs
I see. Makes sense
There are values to bring other than overall dps, like priority damage if the key has a lot of packs with a single or two larger health enemies
Jesus its impossible to get into keys...
aint no way i get bis on my evoker from weekly dungeon quest hours after i craft gilded weap
So I've got a quick question. Is the best in slots weapon. Good for fury or did I get junk in my weekly box?
its uh... best in slot as you could say
So. I can still hunt gnomes without an issue 🤔
guys i played odyns fury yesterday by removing points in deft exprience and 1 point from vicious contempt
in cinderbrew meadery
and lets just say it was the most horrible experience
did 4% of my damage
F to the days when OF was worth spending points on
Ya sucks that it’s back to being a useless talent again
worked 🙂 thx
Has anyone been seriously playing with the newest version of RA? Trying out some sims and it gets really really close for me
Boy it suck to be target capped
That would be nice ! HATE anger management
I will try RA thane in m+
And pretty sure RA slayer is better on vexxie (it's vexxie tho who cares)
Is it me or are there SOOO many builds. I havent a clue which to take. Each boss on wowhead has two options. Not saying i havent worked it out but .....jez....not a ST MT and M+ build. There are loads of variations and i am abit lost.
I used thane on Sticks last night and it pumped.
Isnt it more or less just 2 versions of slayer for raid?
Pure st for lockenstock and a bit of aoe mixed in for rest
Looking at the top 50 logs. There is difference. Mostly for VC and DE...
Also, thane with Spear...
My mistake.
Well there are thus 2 builds, that are extremely close, you either go 2 points in vc if you want a bit more damage in exec range, or go no vc if you want a bit more damage outside of exec
That's it
And no one uses spear on thane
I am curious about why spear isn’t used for this season, per cast it does more damage itself and adds the crit damage. I know the crit damage buff isn’t like it used to be but I guess maybe I don’t know the math of how little or big the crit damage buff affect your dps
It's not even a percent better than roar while being 10 times more annoying to use
In a way that for most people I think we would lose damage playing spear
I remember only being annoying because of standing in the circle in the past. I guess if the math works out to being basically equal in theory than I get it
Roar is a nice press and forget
The AoE of spear is kinda small, Roar is pretty big
Hitting a whole pack with Spear is often a bit of a hassle while it's really easy to do with Roar
hi schmidu
Hi Gio
I don’t even know why I cared about it. I always disliked when spear was the go to choice in the past
It's joever
I am raiding on my alt character on sunday
Being more useful than Spongie's main
Thoughts
had to buy a tier piece from some bozo who had it already for 30k though
spngus nobus
(I play Warlock on OAB)
@warm crag
Don't ping the beast
Demo is unplayable