fury

[remote bobcat]

u dont

lmao

[iron portal]

Cause it will give you 645 version

[remote bobcat]

nope

658

just did it 1h ago

[iron portal]

Literally had two people in my guild encountering this issue

I didnt have that issue

So this is purely fyi

[atomic fog]

i feel stupid asking but hoiw the hell am I supposed to equip a unique ring in both slots to begin with ?

[remote bobcat]

you swap the positions

of the ring

both ring slot positions

[iron portal]

Just move it to that slot. You wont have the ring twice in bag

[earnest shuttle]

don't overcomplicate things, do this, delete your cyrce ring while you have equipped it, do not put in bags

then just request for a new ring, and equip it, you will have the 658 upgrade after that

obviously, remove the gems before deleting it

no need to equip in both slots, no need to relog

[remote bobcat]

its a safety measure

the relogging

[earnest shuttle]

maybe that's why it was bugged, for me it worked perfectly by just doing that

[remote bobcat]

but yea relogging n shit isnt really necessary

relogging simply ensures that the servers arent confused

[earnest shuttle]

they're always confused

[remote bobcat]

real

[royal copper]

TWW Season 2 Bloodthirst Crit

https://wago.io/hKMfHReC2

[earnest shuttle]

ty

[eternal compass]

Booster parses are so high because rly good gear and know the fight really well or there are other reasons aswell?

[chrome plover]

at least on aoe bosses it’s because you can pad like crazy

[atomic fog]

did everything, got a 658 cricelt back and no upgrade for other rings whatsoever ?

[chrome plover]

But also the points you mentioned, they’ve done the bosses 50 times

[sweet basin]

Does Slayer fury dps depend on luck?

[tardy lark]

more gear into adds having more hp to pad on

[remote bobcat]

gear doesnt matter, all about fight optimizations and good raid comps

[tardy lark]

it is among the specs with least variance

[chrome plover]

I wouldn’t say it depends on it

[warm crag]

Idk disagree

@gleaming siren

[remote bobcat]

lol

[tardy lark]

i mean can just look at sims ^^

[chrome plover]

reverberating Richard with adds spawning on boss and infinite slayer strike procs

[warm crag]

Its certainly low Variance but i think it has extremely swingy pull to pull fun rng

Dropping a jugg or getting bladestorm back too late just feels so bad

[remote bobcat]

i quicksimmed my char with improved whirlwind build https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/51pPeC7AvxbUixWQijkbXB/simc

you can clearly see the dps distribution. it aint that small.

[tardy lark]

yeah this is obviously ST sims so if you need timings for specific things, that is gonna vary some

[sweet basin]

i hit the dummy almost 3hours after check my sim

[tardy lark]

that says very little when it isnt compared

[remote bobcat]

fair i suppose

[sweet basin]

Sometimes I do as same as simc sometimes dont.. and when dont, I look inside my details there is some lack of suddendeath and slayerstrike buff

[radiant plank]

it is definetly small compared to what other specs have

[sweet basin]

Sorry for mu bad english

[tardy lark]

even arms isnt technically that bad, but its moreso in a few obvious pain points rather than not being able to press buttons

[remote bobcat]

this is for sims - your main aoe cooldown is complete rng in slayer

[tardy lark]

jugg falling for example

[remote bobcat]

you play raid fights

not target dummies

it is rng

[tardy lark]

[radiant plank]

Arms variance looks so low cuz it doesnt matter before the last 20% of the sim

[undone flower]

me as bdk doing 15m on first pull of cinderbrew or 5m bc no proc

[tardy lark]

yuh

[radiant plank]

Arms variance in execute phase is like from 2.4-3.9

m dps

[sullen dove]

Me when don’t crit 15 exes and ms’s in a row

[tardy lark]

colossus variance with demolish crits

end me

[radiant plank]

me when 4p fell off

[kind mantle]

is viscera only better than signet if consistently under 35%? I might be missing an easy way to sim that but idk

[tardy lark]

can just sim patchwerk execute

[sweet basin]

Very low deviation compared to outlaw

But when hitting the dummy feel more struggling than playing outlaw

Need to more practice..

Thx for all answers 🙂

[remote bobcat]

Pat are you sure you know how to play fury to its fullest potential?

fury has quite a few conditionals

[warm crag]

Eh you can kinda approximate most annoying ones away and still do fine

[remote bobcat]

yea but doing fine isnt what hes trying to achieve

spongie

you can be braindead and jsut press glowy buttons

it will give you 95% efficiency

maybe a bit less

but thats not the point

[warm crag]

A bit more lol

[tardy lark]

i wish everything was this black and white to me

what a simple world

[remote bobcat]

in pure st like sprocket yea sure, not other fights

but regardless

he wants to learn

[sweet basin]

Not sure

[carmine flax]

What are currently best trinkets for m+?

[shrewd magnet]

Lens, pacemaker

[carmine flax]

but pacemaker was over simming no?

[shrewd magnet]

I believe it was amplifier

[carmine flax]

ah yeah, sorry confused

[shrewd magnet]

But still good trinket regardless

[carmine flax]

aight thanks

[shrewd magnet]

Lens for until you get house of cards ig

[remote bobcat]

lens is only beaten by mythic house of cards yea

unless ur gear is weird

always sim

type shii

[carmine flax]

getting lens is so shitty

[shrewd magnet]

Does lens appear in mythic track or just hero?

[carmine flax]

not even gonna mention hero track

[remote bobcat]

its a delve trinket

delve items only go up to hero track

wat

[shrewd magnet]

So hero track lens > hero track cards?

[remote bobcat]

in m+ yea

[kind mantle]

How sim viscera to see if better than mechano core, unsure abt the personal less than 35% health amp

[shrewd magnet]

Are you okay man

[kind mantle]

nope

[shrewd magnet]

Bro

Hahahahha

[kind mantle]

I might be missing a setting on raidbots but hard to tell if that trink is worth, esp with overzealous healers wanting to top everyone up 24/7

[remote bobcat]

just do it chatting

o fuck my emote bugged

gg

chatting

[ancient meadow]

Hey, part-time fury here. I have a dump question: As MT my bloodthirst button changes sometimes it's icon. But I couldn't find it in the wowhead rotation list. Can I ignore this?

[remote bobcat]

are u reckless abandon build ?

instead of anger management?

we didnt really play Reckless Abandon since season start

[shrewd magnet]

Random question, its not that big of a difference between the two right?

[ancient meadow]

don't know. It must be the standard wowhead M+ build

[shrewd magnet]

Ur probably referring to bloodbath if im not mistaken

[remote bobcat]

it is significant

[remote bobcat]

wowhead m+ build shouldnt be reckless abandon

yea its not

no clue

is your build from season 1 ?

@ancient meadow

[ancient meadow]

should be this one: https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/fury/mountain-thane/DAOAUVBRFUhIVIpRUBANVVEFUZURRaBQRCQQEFVVUCAQ

[remote bobcat]

This one does not run reckless abandon, therefore your bloodthirst icon does not change

not with this build

can u jsut screenshot what you're running please?

[ancient meadow]

Is it this talent:
?

[remote bobcat]

no

bro

please

screenshot your talents

that ur running right now

so we can have a look

[ancient meadow]

I linked them above

[remote bobcat]

dont link them

screenshot them

win+shift+s

[ancient meadow]

I'm not on my gaming pc right now

[remote bobcat]

then i can't help you

[ancient meadow]

but the talents above are correct. It's from a m+ log yesterday

[remote bobcat]

there is only one talent that actively changes the bloodthirst icon

[ancient meadow]

Maybe it is a WA thing. I use the Luxthos package

[remote bobcat]

Potentially

i dont waste my time with the popular WA packs

personally

prohibits learning imo

but to each their own

[ancient meadow]

ok one moment. I start my gaming pc and do a screenshot

[remote bobcat]

this is the only talent that changes bloodthirsts icon. Bloodthirst becomes Bloodbath while Recklessness is active

[ancient meadow]

Talents

[remote bobcat]

can u hit the dummy until the WA icon changes pls?

[ancient meadow]

WA out of combat

[remote bobcat]

until the icon changes

yerr

[radiant plank]

Burst of power

is the reason btw

for icon change

[remote bobcat]

but doesnt change the icon baseline

[radiant plank]

no

[remote bobcat]

must be a luxthos thing then yea

[radiant plank]

but in Luxthos it changes to the burst of power buff icon

[remote bobcat]

i hate his WA's

so much

lol

[remote bobcat]

yea that is burst of power

man i hate this garbo

ICANT

[remote bobcat]

yea

it is this

but like

its just luxthos being weird

very weird

[tight roost]

You can replace the bt icon with the one linked in this discord that give the ksching

[ancient meadow]

ksching?

[tight roost]

Drag it into, customize size and order, delete the stock one

Kaching, fat fingers typing on phone soz

[remote bobcat]

theres a weakaura that tells you when to BT in pure ST situations

and it makes a kaching sound

when conditions are met

[ancient meadow]

ok and back to my original question: As a noob Burst of Power sounds great. 35% increased dmg and additional rage.
Why doesn't it change the prio list?

[radiant plank]

cuz its not great

in game

[ancient meadow]

ok, so the tldr for me is: Ignore this proc?!

[radiant plank]

yes

[ancient meadow]

nice, thanks

[remote bobcat]

tldr is that luxthos WAs suck because its too much information which ends up deceiving new spec learners

Sadge

[ancient meadow]

yes, maybe this one specific buff. but overall I like this WA package very much. Mainly I play prot warrior

[undone flower]

But on prot too, clap turns into 2 blast when you avatar but it doesn’t tell you to chase Shield slam proc

[lapis eagle]

that's the only 2 packs luxthos and afenar

[undone flower]

Big glow on blast = bad

[chrome plover]

that's why he makes them really simple to modify though, it's a trap you're always gonna fall in when getting a ultra generic package

[undone flower]

For context on what I’m saying for those who don’t know prot

[chrome plover]

i agree it's misleading for people picking up the spec who dont go into guides or ask questions

[remote bobcat]

(disgustingly) misleading

clueless~1

[chrome plover]

i wouldnt go that far at all

[wise canyon]

Wait so is afenars better than luxthos?

[chrome plover]

at the end of the day depends what you like the look of, i think both of them need a bit of customisation to be optimal personally

[undone flower]

Personally modified package are better* is more accurate

[chrome plover]

i use luxthos with a bunch of my own changes for every spec apart from ones that have some nerd making a hyper optimised and specific one

[undone flower]

^

[lapis eagle]

like what u modify aparta from skill / resource position and defensives ?

[dense elbow]

chances to get invited to M+ due to perception is up 6 points

[remote bobcat]

the only people who use free pre-made weakauras are those who are initially trying to learn the specs

[chrome plover]

put my own versions of some weakauras in, for example the BT one in #updates-midnight and turning off conditionals that we dont care about

[remote bobcat]

people who have a grasp of specs already tend to not use those

[chrome plover]

well that's complete bs

[undone flower]

On the luxthos one I use as prot, I remove the special cds under the main thing and do my own bc luxthos tracks too much idc about

[tardy lark]

nah the world is that black and white

[chrome plover]

my bad

[remote bobcat]

"well aktshually i know 2 players and myself who use it"

[undone flower]

(Like my kick, I have group kick WA already tracking mine)

[lapis eagle]

hm chawie can i remove the execute glow on thane cause we don't really use execute ^^ ?

would be easier on the eyes

[tardy lark]

you cant turn off a single glow, but you can turn off all glows

👍

[chrome plover]

you can turn off the glow within the execute weakaura

[lapis eagle]

ok will check it out

[tardy lark]

oh i thought it was like action bar glows

he was talking about

[wise canyon]

I am too lazy and stupid to adjust any weakauras

I just want the easiest one that’s olay

[calm mantle]

how many of you guys are just sticking to fury for keys and how many are going to arms? I'm a fury junky and usually dont try arms but I just feel so insedure about my dps with some other classes in my group.

[remote bobcat]

colossus arms is actually fun so im playing arms whenever its a good arms dungeon

👍

[undone flower]

Me too I’m lazy, that’s why I use a package to begin with, I just use 20-30 min to fix it for what I really want

[calm mantle]

how much difference is our gear stat priority and trinkets? or is it just a simple as spec change and go crazy?

[storm meadow]

Hello there !
I was checking wowhead for rotation tips and I saw that Avatar should always be synchronized wiht Recklessness ?
In the context of Thane M+ Recklessness doesn't always perfectly aligns with it's advised to wait for it in this case ?

[radiant plank]

cds on cd

[storm meadow]

alright

[wise canyon]

Prot

[calm mantle]

I don't want to learn to tank adn be flamed xD

[radiant plank]

Mostly due to berserks torment giving u reck or ava when pressing the oppostie CD

[undone flower]

I did my first key as dps war this season the other day, I think the most annoying thing is not enraged instantly

[storm meadow]

alright

so no changes for me tyvm

[chrome plover]

arms is fun

[chrome plover]

trinkets not much diff, arms likes crit/haste but also mastery

[radiant plank]

you can play arms with fury stats

but not fury with arms stats

[chrome plover]

i think bad stats matters way more for fury than arms

yeah

[radiant plank]

Also for keys mastery is heavily favoured for arms

with crit

[calm mantle]

hmm, maybe it's time I level my 70 warrior alt adn try out a new spec for fun

[remote bobcat]

why seperate char

[dense elbow]

If you got the time, it does allow you to more efficently have two sets of crafted gear, and oppertunities to specialise vault drops?

[remote bobcat]

well yea

if u do have the time

[eternal sundial]

Double crest horror

[dense elbow]

We all enjoy farming crests

[radiant plank]

Double valorstones horror*

[warm crag]

The enemy has to be low HP not you

[chrome plover]

yeah our uh dk's split character is a frost dk

cinema

[warm crag]

Or is this a pvp thing

[kind mantle]

holy shit I didn't realize thats crazy ty

[indigo sigil]

Hello guys this trinket is very crazy now

[fading sky]

lock n stock

is it bis on fury or arms ?

[warm crag]

Gear dependent sim it

[fading sky]

coz on droptimiser its worse than my champion track mechano

[iron portal]

Well mechano is pretty strong to begin with but try simming it max level too. Or just do gear compare

[warm crag]

Gear compare is Kind of legacy with top gear getting that search bar

[iron portal]

Didnt notice. But I still use it sometimes

As long as it works

[indigo sigil]

Yeah bis fury actually this dps is insane

[chrome plover]

i'd need a myth one for it to be an upgrade

[gleaming siren]

Simply acquire it

[warm crag]

Speedy

I am assembling tert trinket exodia

[gleaming siren]

I didn't roll a 42 yesterday

...

Penkek was right I lied

It was a 46

[fair thistle]

it is better off about 15 000 dps compared to pacemaker in ST5

that is crazy

its the second best apparently behind eye of kezan

[halcyon python]

Is it simming good for you? It doesnt seem much of an upgrade for me

[stiff barn]

Do you have bis?

[halcyon python]

I have in in the vault and im still unsure if to pick it

I have pacemaker hero maxed and house of card champ maxed

Barely 0,9 upgrade

On st 6 min

[stiff barn]

A lot of passive trinkets gain on value when you have the bis mace

[halcyon python]

So would you pick it instead of a myth track head?

[fair thistle]

it does sim absolutely crazy for me

as i don't have eye of kezan

[halcyon python]

I mean we farm first 2 myth and head drops from first but i dunno what to do

[fair thistle]

my bis now are lock n stock 6/6 hero track & radio reverb 3/6 Myth track

can't upgrade to 6/6 yet

[halcyon python]

We havent seen a single radio

Rng god hates me

[radiant plank]

radio kinda mid yk

[halcyon python]

Any tip @fair thistle for my situation

Dont tell me sim it i did it ahahahahah

[undone flower]

Radio in my guild is rolling for free crest upgrades

[fair thistle]

show me the sim pls

[fair thistle]

radio 678 better than hoc 672 i don't call this trinket mid brow

[halcyon python]

Eh im at work i have only this

[radiant plank]

6 ilvls diff

[halcyon python]

Pacemaker is hc maxed and house is champ maxed

[fair thistle]

and ur current gear is lock n stalk ?

[halcyon python]

No no current is pacemaker and house

I have eye in the bag

[fair thistle]

check the vault, if lock n stalk isn't myth and u have better upgrade

don't take lock n stalk imo

do some people have a weakaura to remind to change citrine from ST to MT pls ?

[halcyon python]

I dunno if to pick eye in the vault

[fair thistle]

take eye

[halcyon python]

That would be helpful

[fair thistle]

u simmed for 6 mins

[undone flower]

Idk if a lot of spec wants lock n stalk, might just wait reclears to get it

[fair thistle]

if u aim doing mythic raid

from 6 to 8 mins, eye skyrockets

[halcyon python]

Ok

Ye ye we prog myth

Ill try an 8 minute sim

[fair thistle]

try sim bfore and check

eye is hero track ?

[halcyon python]

Yup

[fair thistle]

alr

[indigo sigil]

4.8 % dmg for last boss BREW and overall 3.2 % dmg

very crazy

2.2 % for aoe dmg and 0.6 % for mono dmg

lock n stock is very cool

[fair thistle]

u have to defeat one armed to get HoC mythic

AND you must get it by your RL

[radiant plank]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1086295957064396811/1350568374232682507/chrome_NqI7rB2KSX.gif

[fair thistle]

I stick to the fact that most of the progress, Radio Reverb will be better than HoC

[halcyon python]

It does get better

[fair thistle]

u don't need to be condescending tho

[gleaming siren]

https://imgur.com/1nUZrGo

[indigo sigil]

sim mono ?

[fair thistle]

you have your answer now i guess

[halcyon python]

St 8 min

[radiant plank]

mhm

[fair thistle]

depends of your gear ig

[radiant plank]

HoC is gonna be better btw if you ever in a situation where you hold your avatar to burst adds

or dmg amp

[fair thistle]

does someone have the %difference between stormbringer and thunderlord in MT ?

[fair thistle]

fine with that

[arctic pivot]

any1 knows if ring trick still works?

[undone flower]

You can sim it

[fair thistle]

tried it didn't work, imma try again

[indigo sigil]

For 662 ilvl is pretty good i think

[undone flower]

If I remember it’s a talent choice in hero tree ? You can do combination sim and remove point until the choice node

[fair thistle]

for stix MM is the option hectic add cleave a good one ?

[undone flower]

ST/5t is my big guess (I only sim ST for gear raid personnally and talents combination for specific profiles)

[fair thistle]

yeah but not relevant

[halcyon python]

Stat breakdownv

[fair thistle]

most bosses are cleave/heavy MT

[halcyon python]

Im simming 2,3

[undone flower]

The goal in Mythic is to kill the boss

[fair thistle]

yeah well if you don't kill barrels you wipe, if you don't kill scrapbombs you wipe aswell

[undone flower]

Yep that’s why your tank takes your raid spot on the fight if you really want to min max those things not important anymore bc they get blasted

[rocky wharf]

just want to add, thx archi be bolding DEAD for the nogg trinket 😄

[fair thistle]

is Titan's Torment bad ?

[iron portal]

For stix i would just sim ST and take ww talents

I mean, difference between aoe talents and st talents is negligable anyway

[fair thistle]

y

it doesn't wanna sim both citrines

[sudden timber]

🤔 alright so i'm picking vault between two weapons. one is haste heavy / mastery, other is mastery heavy / haste. Sim according to my gear right now is 1.5k in favor of the haste heavy one, but is there any way to predict what will be better later later?

[fair thistle]

i think, imo, what will be better later later is mastery heavy / haste but i'm not sure

i don't know if mastery has a breakdown (i think not) when haste does

so when u'll be fully geared, you wanna have more mastery than haste

to confirm tho i'm rly not sure, i didn't experience enough this

[gleaming siren]

Every stat has DR

Both naturally and in the "you get X% less of this stat from this point forward" sense

[gleaming siren]

It quite literally doesn't matter. 1.5k is basically within margin of error and you won't have appreciably different results with more gear.

[sudden timber]

alright ty that was what i was looking for, xD

[fair thistle]

okay good to know, do you know averagely when ? have in mine 30% for haste but dk

[iron portal]

We just sim tbh

[gleaming siren]

Not like it's necessarily useful information cause yea just sim but

[fair thistle]

thanks

[calm mantle]

First 12 timed, mage dced at the double mechs at the end and we had to 4 man boss for a little and then we killed boss and was missing % I thought we were done for

[undone flower]

me opening mdt just before the 2 mechs to see how many mines

[calm mantle]

Tank was literally like "I think I missed a mine" xD

[indigo sigil]

No buff haste 31% 47% mastery and 12% crit

[calm mantle]

Tho I'm a little disappointed with my performance still first 10 timed.

[undone flower]

You have 4-5 months to stop disappoint yourself dw

[calm mantle]

These were the damage meters

[wheat oyster]

does someone have a weakaura for thunderclap and thunder blast where it shows thunderblast stack but also the gcd for thunder clap?

[heavy nacelle]

which slot do you guys put your nerubian enchant on for ascendance? wrist?

[undone flower]

I have my S1 wrists

[fair thistle]

2h weapon then embellishment that doubles it on wrists

[heavy nacelle]

cool, wrist it is then 🙂

[indigo sigil]

For me i pref double embellish versa

But i have weapon 678 and 665

Weapon cost 2 spark and i pref craft ring/neck/boot 675

[clever belfry]

versadilidy?

[gleaming siren]

WHY DOOD

[eternal sundial]

Jesus you got shit on lmao

Why no 3 mil

[iron portal]

Sounds wrong on so many levels

[calm mantle]

Because I'm a shit fury warrior that died on a big pack pull and then yeah, got shit on

[tidal kindle]

It's okay

My 664 fury warr was getting out-overalled by my dh when dh was 650

Target cap very cool, roar very strong

[thick fossil]

I stopped playing fury in keys after running about a dozen dungeons. Arms can do pretty close to the same prio damage.

Target cap is so triggering.

[mossy fox]

fury hitting 5 targets in a 20+ mob pull 🙂

[fading sky]

wdym just roar

[chrome plover]

[median quarry]

Remember leap is off gcd uncapped aoe

[fast mural]

Huge tech

[slender trellis]

So we Play arms on m+ and fury on RAID except cauldrona?

[fast mural]

Fury on cauldron is fine too

[radiant plank]

arms better on oab and mug'zee too

👍

[slender trellis]

Hello no. Sweeping strikes go brrrrr

[mossy fox]

if only buttons not named rampage, raging blow and bloodthirst weren't the only buttons dealing damage

[split yoke]

If I had a dollar for everytime I killed a free casting 1hp mob with heroic leap, I would have 2 dollars which isnt much but still weird it happened twice

[fading sky]

yeah

[radiant plank]

Rampage and Bloodthirst buffed by 15% followed by 3% aura nerf next week

[fading sky]

a hard buff to OF + roar

[fast mural]

What about bloodthirst-storm

[fading sky]

wouldnt be to bad

[fast mural]

I blame hero talents Bladestorm would be good aoe if it wasn't tuned to be a ST ability

[next shale]

I feel like, having some target cap review, would be sensible.

The original intention was to prevent people doing big pulls and lusting, as the predominant m+ strat.

But i doubt we'd get that.

coming from outlaw (with an 8 target cap) fury feels very bad to play large m+ pulls

[iron portal]

You tickle their toes

[thick fossil]

They really do need to buff OF, Bladestorm/Ravager, Roar.

Give us some actual options for these dungeons.

[fading sky]

yeah that way 5 target cap would be ok tbh

if OF was back to what it was

8 targets squared

[fast mural]

But then they make raids with burst aoe

[fading sky]

i mean atm

[fast mural]

[fading sky]

u could buff of a lot though?

without it being a choice ?

in st

[thick fossil]

Meanwhile monk, mage, warlock, and shadowpriest are free to just blast all the massive cleave adds in raid?

Without nerfs....

[fast mural]

So siegbreaker for ST and OF for aoe
I like how that sounds

[fading sky]

ofc?

[iron portal]

Shammy capped but not capped

[fading sky]

they do it "slowly"

[clever belfry]

?

[warm crag]

They should revert the target cap nerf for the up Front Hit of roar thoughts

[fading sky]

Rogue ?

roar is just in gen very bad

[thick fossil]

3% is not a nerf, that's a minor adjustment.

[clever belfry]

?

moving goalpoasts now are we

[iron portal]

?

[fast mural]

Instead of increasing target cap for fury.they should target cap every class to 5 targets

[clever belfry]

be happy fury didnt get bonked for doing big st 👍

honestly

[thick fossil]

Fine 3% is not the same kind of nerf Fury got season 1.

[fading sky]

i am

[warm crag]

https://tenor.com/view/moving-goalposts-goalposts-changing-requirements-gif-25214446

[fading sky]

happy with fury st

i would like an ARMS buff for st

[remote bobcat]

?

[fading sky]

^_^

[remote bobcat]

?

[tidal kindle]

Just make dot relevant

[thick fossil]

#fury message

[tidal kindle]

Good enough for me

[warm crag]

Shadow is nowhere as broken as hc week fury lol

[clever belfry]

shadow is good on 2 bosses

boo-hoo

[remote bobcat]

do u even remember fury s1 nerfs?

ICANT

[chilly fractal]

Who could forget nerf after nerf

The Critcake wheel

The children CRYING IN THE STREETS

[thick fossil]

I'm not even saying Shadow is OP. Honestly it's mage, and monk that are still OP. Warlock target cap and ability to cleave such a big area is their niche. Still huge damage without getting nerfed as hard as Fury did.

[remote bobcat]

mage is dummy but man your opinions kinda suck

aint even gonna lie

[fast mural]

I don't understand what's your take is
Do.you think duet nerds season 1 were almost nothing ?

[thick fossil]

So you're cool with those classes not being gutted like Fury was? Interesting.

[remote bobcat]

yea 100%

i am very happy with current meta

some of the fury changes in s1 were dumb

since we padded on HC dungeon mobs

like yea

but no if you gut current meta

[thick fossil]

A lot of them were dumb and super knee jerk.

[remote bobcat]

then this meta will end up suckin

[clever belfry]

yes so lets repeat the same dogshit

(small adjustments if done in perpetuum are much prefered 👍)

[remote bobcat]

a lot of them were dumb and super knee jerk
THEN WHY DO YOU WANT THEM TO REPEAT IT WITH MULTIPLE SPECS ?

[fast mural]

If blizz wants to be consistent they should nerf every spec that's good cause nieches

[remote bobcat]

bro

[fast mural]

Which they did

[clever belfry]

except fire mage ofc

their niche is to be the best spec in the game for all content

[remote bobcat]

yes

except fire mage

[thick fossil]

Pull your head out of your ass and stop putting words into my mouth. I'm looking for consistency from Blizzard. Buffs for Warrior.

[remote bobcat]

fire mage needs to be avg dps in order to be fair

[fast mural]

That's just mages in general

[fast mural]

Mages are the main character

[granite crown]

Or, and hear me out, they don't design bosses that only 2 3 (dev exists I guess) classes in the game can do relevant damage on

[remote bobcat]

man

[remote bobcat]

chatting

[thick fossil]

How is any of that directly asking for classes to be nerfed and not pointing out the bullshit Blizzard pulled on Warrior? Ffs stop trying to bend context.

[remote bobcat]

dentge

[clever belfry]

cbt

[thick fossil]

Let me dumb it down for you.
Blizzard gutted warrior because of raid design. I compare that to current meta. You take that as wanting everything nerfed.

[remote bobcat]

Fury got kneejerk dummy fast nerfs way too early - you then decided to question if I was okay with the current meta classes being broken. I said yes. You said Interesting, implying that you disagree, which in turn means that you do think it's okay to gut them - repeating the same kneejerk shit from s1

its ok bro

one day you will understand logical sequences

dentge

[clever belfry]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boolean_algebra

[remote bobcat]

crazy link

aint even gon lie

kekW

[compact siren]

Want to play World of Warcraft?

[clever belfry]

fuck no

[remote bobcat]

anda hows ur prog lookin?

[clever belfry]

badly

[remote bobcat]

how so

[clever belfry]

prefer to not speak about it

[remote bobcat]

so ur prog is progging

Sadge

i saw stix enrage

like 3 times

[warm crag]

Huh how

[clever belfry]

u tell me

[remote bobcat]

or rather

[warm crag]

I dont know what happens after trash Set 7

[remote bobcat]

final explosion

or whatever

[slate shore]

anyone know how is circlet for fury all the guides I've looked at say to replace it at 665 but all the sims i do for rings of that ilvl ends up being a massive dps loss

[thick fossil]

TLDR: Warrior should be buffed to compete with M+. S1 nerfs sucked, and it's insane that blizzard hasn't done it again. It almost shows a hard biased.
Fuck man, maybe you should carry a plant around with you, so you can help replace the oxygen you waste.

[clever belfry]

u get about 5s then he enrages
then u got about another 10 before he does fire circles

then u die

[remote bobcat]

warrior is competing in m+

kekW

[thick fossil]

Arms is

[remote bobcat]

warrior

is

3 specs

you nut

if you refuse to be flexible

then its on you

cretin behavior

[spare steppe]

Warrior is in a good place raid, how do you buff in m+ without too much impact raid?

[fading sky]

OF + roar

[remote bobcat]

ig he wants to remove target cap

or sum shit

[lapis eagle]

yeah uncap roar

[remote bobcat]

or just make our aoe talents good

[lapis eagle]

for start

[fading sky]

roar isnt capped

dot isnt

[clever belfry]

wrong

[fading sky]

IT Is now ?

[clever belfry]

roar initial is soft 5

roar dot is soft 8

[fading sky]

ahh Fucking tree boss

[thick fossil]

Yeah

[fading sky]

showed blizzard what roar could do

[clever belfry]

tree boss?

[spare steppe]

they should rework onslaught

[warm crag]

Yeah it definitely was that pull in academy

[thick fossil]

Algathra academy

[clever belfry]

bro go on press ur onslaught (it does less DPE than raging blow)

[warm crag]

Where it was warrior who padded best

[fading sky]

well pull before tree as well

i guess

[clever belfry]

yeah bro i was on arms in s4 and did useless dmg

king

[warm crag]

Spalten

[remote bobcat]

Sadge

[clever belfry]

raging blow is just broken

🤷‍♂️

[fading sky]

i mean the reworked avatar talent

[remote bobcat]

not just RB

but yes

[fading sky]

is also doa

[clever belfry]

there is a reason its the highest contributer to our dmg breakdown

while also buffing ramp

and BT

??

shoot RB

[fading sky]

nah Buff rb

[clever belfry]

maybe annihilator wasnt a mistake

[fading sky]

delete bt

[clever belfry]

REAL TRUE REAL TRUE REAL TRUE REAL TRUE REAL TRUE REAL TRUE REAL TRUE REAL TRUE REAL TRUE REAL TRUE

[fading sky]

just RB RB RBRBRBRBRBRBRRBRBBRBR

and ramp

[clever belfry]

(R)ip my (B)rains out

RB

[fading sky]

which is actually what we are doing now ?

[remote bobcat]

give rb 4 stacks true (true)

[clever belfry]

every RB gives 5 SS stacks

[fading sky]

Rbrbrbrbr oh 3 stacks execute - ramp - ah Kaching = my first BT

[remote bobcat]

RB is so broken you RB instead of rampage after bladestorming

clueless~1

fuck slaughtering btw

[clever belfry]

ok vencord user

[remote bobcat]

yes

[clever belfry]

got my eye on u!!

[remote bobcat]

OK

wanna make out?

ThinkSmirk

[clever belfry]

nyo

[remote bobcat]

why not

Sadge

[clever belfry]

i dont have the gay sorry

[remote bobcat]

swordish disagrees

[clever belfry]

swordfish is wrong then

[remote bobcat]

surely

[chrome plover]

why are all of your emotes so big

[remote bobcat]

arent for me

cause i scaled them down

coolio

[chrome plover]

that's still big

[remote bobcat]

use any emote

rq

natty

[chrome plover]

🤔

defo smaller on my browser

[remote bobcat]

Thinking~1

[chrome plover]

compared to text

[remote bobcat]

what can i say

it just be like that

[clever belfry]

me when the emote is 109x128 px

[eager mulch]

Opened my heroic loot box last night my 2nd week back- got Best-in-slots at 662- replaced a 645 m0 mace

[chrome plover]

gz

[clever belfry]

662

👁️

[eager mulch]

Or whatever it was

[remote bobcat]

is that the actual size or

[eager mulch]

It was max track

[chrome plover]

it's 665 i think

[clever belfry]

yes

[eager mulch]

Ah ty

[clever belfry]

i opened the file and measured it

its either 665 or 658

depending on hc/nm

[remote bobcat]

hmmge

[clever belfry]

try 64

then it shouldnt be too large for people

👍

[eager mulch]

665 then- I couldnt remember the last digit

[remote bobcat]

hmm

[chrome plover]

ty anda fixing my skyhold kronzo experience

[remote bobcat]

idk what it looks like for yall

cause i honestly dont care

[clever belfry]

yeah thats morel ike it

[remote bobcat]

wait

[clever belfry]

👑

[remote bobcat]

wait

[clever belfry]

🫅

👑

[chrome plover]

looks like shit

👍

[remote bobcat]

clappers

[clever belfry]

this one regular size now

cr@zy

[radiant plank]

still too big

[remote bobcat]

is this like rly big for u now

hmm

[chrome plover]

yea

[clever belfry]

yes

[radiant plank]

go to 32

[chrome plover]

it was still too big at 64 but way better

[clever belfry]

the thumbs up has unreasonably large margins in the vector gfx

for some reason

[chrome plover]

go to 0

[remote bobcat]

chatting

[chrome plover]

holy

[clever belfry]

32 is inline

[clever belfry]

64 is just emote

[remote bobcat]

lol

[chrome plover]

dont talk to me or my son ever again

[remote bobcat]

back to 64

chatting

[clever belfry]

crazy feature

[remote bobcat]

yea

u like it?

[chrome plover]

star head chatting

my favourite emote

[clever belfry]

Quick post balls

[radiant plank]

https://tenor.com/view/cyberthule-raw-milk-gif-13534556795096546755

[warm crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/711337973274378270/1351661979298697226/ezgif-12920d43fa19c4.gif

[iron portal]

Getting bit out of hand ,innit

[remote bobcat]

im gonna star chat head chatting you

[remote bobcat]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1333755767714611230/0128.gif

https://tenor.com/view/dob-dob-dob-rizz-black-man-ha-ha-ha-gif-17039177668047803738

[iron portal]

Skill issue

[remote bobcat]

idk about u but i think fury kinda broken in raids

aint even coping

[clever belfry]

pretty good spec yes

[chrome plover]

both specs are very good

[clever belfry]

arms just got shafted by what's required in raid kinda

[fading sky]

just rebuff the execute they nerfed

and we friends again

[fair swallow]

Especially since they did it because rwf guilds were just stacking arms warriors

[fading sky]

Yup

[sly bobcat]

Any1 know if best in slots cannot proc the passive if you have the active going? Do you min max by having passive proc then active during CDs?

Rolled a 97 yest for one B)

[clever belfry]

i too like spreading misinformation

[thick fossil]

This would do some heavy lifting for sure.

[fading sky]

I just feel like arms should outperform fury at least at st( i know in fully bis they just out edge fury)

[glad coyote]

same thing happened last tier, when adds spawn we have CD's

we just like up and its even better with AM now

they just need to have 2 dmg profiles 1 for raid and 1 for m+ because they balance it of raid and it screws M+ up

[near wing]

Why is fury broken in raids? We’re not top

And even if we were, we’re allowed to have one season where we top the dps charts without getting nerfed

[tardy lark]

https://tenor.com/view/we-do-a-little-trolling-misinformation-toji-no-miko-kaoru-mashiko-gif-24078541

[fair swallow]

Wdym, in ptr and before the raid released a ton of top guilds were stacking arms

[remote bobcat]

not giga broken but like fury ST is dummy consistent as long as we have uptime and we have on-demand aoe

[tardy lark]

yeah monks are just alright

🙂

[fair swallow]

My personal opinion we're broken in prog, and still top but not op DMG when gear evens out

[thick fossil]

And totally were not stacked for certain bosses.

[tardy lark]

nah, you stacked fury warriors cause they are broken

[fading sky]

Arms with mpre dmg wouldnt have been stacked

Had odyns fury + bladestorm been stronger i think we couldda seen som fury stacks

Monks just had a lot of the things u wanted

Like fm

Not only overall dmg

[solar smelt]

Definitely missing odyns fury right now lol

[fading sky]

But blinks + defensives and such

Spread as fuck cleave

Shit we just cant do as well

[jade cipher]

guys i know its not as simple ok

[subtle raven]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rS9nQ1sdNSVez6NG3rjfD6 im juiced

[jade cipher]

but if we had odyns fury, and +8 target cleave and unhinged going into WW stacks and uncapped raor and Of

i wouldnt beat this guy

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1347160574575771699/1354818771755204650/image.png?ex=67e6acce&is=67e55b4e&hm=915f2dd8f49f4dd049ef82a5cabf81b28ac6fecbca199c6590448f14f1c583cf&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=239&height=185

look

[chilly plume]

yo what the fuck

[queen linden]

For thane, with the burst rotation, is it really just spamming rampage and RB during the ravager?

[jade cipher]

he was doing 81m dps on first pack of cinderbrew

[glad coyote]

what level key?

[jade cipher]

why in a world that that guy exists, 5 target cap also exists for a spec

idk

it was a +9 cinderbrew, it was forti, we didnt pull whole starting room, it was 2 packs, he opened 81m on first pack

[queen linden]

Had a similar experience in cinder yesterday. Dk did 4.8m overall to my 3.1 as fury. Just can't compete lol

[jade cipher]

But i wasnt doing more st than him either

and i was arms

not fury

fury would be crushed

[queen linden]

But I absolutely crushed him on every boss fight.

[glad coyote]

this is a timed cinder brew

14+ timed

first pull bm and dk both did 22mil burst

i had zero deaths

[queen linden]

Didn't have any issues on ST beating him.

[glad coyote]

hunter and dk both had deaths and the DK DC'd for like 2 minutes

[thick fossil]

Unholy is insane the more targets the tank pulls.

[jade cipher]

yes but my point is my friends, why are we so capped this season

[queen linden]

This season? 😂

[glad coyote]

we've been capped

[civic hemlock]

3m overall still awesome

[thick fossil]

Blizzard.

[coarse nest]

They just proc bloodbeast at the start of a pull during there damage window and it’s gg

And if they proc more than one they get 100m dps

[jade cipher]

yeah listen, when those classes exist. would it be so unbalanced if our unhinged went into WW and SS?

like really

[dry holly]

we had a lot of uncapped stuff last season, but they designed the raid in a way that lined up with all our CDs, so everything had to be nerfed with zero thought for how it affects the spec in M+ 🙂

[jade cipher]

would uncapped roar be game breaking?

[queen linden]

We were fine for about 2 weeks at the start of season 1, and then they started throwing nerf after nerf at us

[coarse nest]

Go back to season 1 week 1 burst and reduced threat by 4000%

Blizz needs to get over themselves

Let us have fun too

[calm island]

No they just need to make meat cleaver 8 targets

[queen linden]

Hehe how many times did you die because you didn't wait 3 seconds before blowing your load?

[queen linden]

This.

[coarse nest]

I could wait 10 seconds and still rip aggro in season 1

[queen linden]

[jade cipher]

dude i wouldnt beat him with even 10 targets meat cleaver, my point is if people are pushing +20 with fury warrior based on tankiness and St damage, if they are fine with being last on overall and top dps on single target. maybe thats not the case for whole warrior community? give us a freaking fun aoe button

[coarse nest]

Even now bro you charge in thunderclap and bam 8 red bars and you’re clapped

[queen linden]

Nef the brown bar, easiest decision.

[jade cipher]

for fuck sake

[coarse nest]

Threat is such bullshit for warrior

It’s crazy they don’t fix it

[queen linden]

Meanwhile as a prot warrior, yelling at everyone to wait a second so I can wheelchair my way around to get aggro

[jade cipher]

last season i was playing thane with DOuble OF and i was having moderate fun, this is just brutal

[thick fossil]

That old meme of drawing the sword opener. Lol

[jade cipher]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/4QpdPJ8q7B3tKbfA?fight=last

[thick fossil]

Bladestorm - release.

[coarse nest]

Off topic but I got heroic best in slots and warbound best in slots on the same kill list night

[queen linden]

If you're doing m+ in hopes of being top of the meter, you shouldn't be playing warrior.

[coarse nest]

Might have to play fury now for the bosses fury’s good at atleast

[queen linden]

[jade cipher]

i play M+ as warrior regardless

[glad coyote]

fury is always great in prog

[jade cipher]

but i can vent about it

[coarse nest]

Ye it’s good I’m just an arms enthusiast

So I play arms whenever possible

Without inting to much

[queen linden]

I need to learn the rotation, hands cramping up from progging as fury

[jade cipher]

i played everbloom Season 3 as fury, didnt feel as useless as i do this season

we had double of and fyralath

[coarse nest]

I have the same issue the nerve that runs through the inside of your elbow that’s attached to ring and pinky finger is fucked

[glad coyote]

that lego was trash

[coarse nest]

For me focusing on not spamming the keybind 6 times per global helped a lot

And moving rampage off of 1

[queen linden]

I'll joke with my raid team about needing to warm my hands up before raid. First boss is always painful

Getting old

[glad coyote]

first boss is BS when adds come in

[coarse nest]

Real man real..

Entering boomer era

[chilly plume]

felt that

[queen linden]

I'll relax after raid and play BM hunter. Much slower rotation 😂

[coarse nest]

Someday I’ll probably have to settle for BM main but pushing that off as long as possible

[queen linden]

Come to the dark side

[coarse nest]

Warrior is just to badass bro

Gotta be warrior

[queen linden]

It is, but also, Mutlishot + KC = topping meters ez

[thick fossil]

Maybe check the ergonomics of your desk. I found that worked to lessen my arthritis problems.

[queen linden]

Ive got a secret lab chair and magnus desk. I used to have a crappy setup and I was hurting everyday. Not so much anymore.

I just can't go log in and hop into a +12 or raid and expect my hands to hit every global right off the bat lol

[clever path]

hi, ive seen people do slayer builds with no improved whirlwind on m+, why is it? just going pure ST?

[queen linden]

I'll usually smack a target dummy for a few minutes then I'm good

[queen linden]

If you're running with a aoe heavy comp, could be smart to go full ST. You're never going to compete with a DK or other uncapped classes.

[thick fossil]

I hear ya. Between my age, career choice, and motorcycle accident when I was young, my joints are fubar.

[clever path]

fair. i just enjoy slayer more and trying to find an excuse to do so, but cant justify not going thane. are there any upperhand to playing slayer on m+?

[queen linden]

I've thought of swapping off of the mmo mice. Finding it harder to hit every global with my thumb. Might be easier to set up keybinds on the keyboard

[queen linden]

Are you running keys over 12?

[clever path]

not at the moment no. rn max 10

[queen linden]

Then play w/e spec you want.

Enjoy the game, don't worry about the meters 🙂

[thick fossil]

I find the MMO mouse to be a lot easier than keyboarding most of it.

At least with the Razer Naga

[clever path]

i mean, sure yes i agree with that most of the time, but it would be nice to you know.. see yourself up on the meters? xD

[queen linden]

Ive had an mmo mouse for the last 12 years, it would be a lot to relearn if I swapped lol

[queen linden]

If you go slayer ST, you'll see yourself at the top on bosses.

If you want to keep some usefullness, then throw some points into meatcleaver

[clever path]

are there any builds you would suggest with cleaver?

this is the one i have in hand (hope i can send pics here i have no clue lol)

[queen linden]

🤷 looks okay to me. Could swap the point from depths and put it in Deft

but if you're doing an "off meta" build, I would just experiment with it. Run a key, see how it feels, then make changes if needed.

[ripe kraken]

ayy i finally reached carved of the undermine

[queen linden]

[clever path]

thank you ❤️ one thing tho; is it worth stacking my bloodcraze to 3 on ST?

nobody does so on the vods i watch yet every single guide tells you to do so

[iron portal]

Use WA to tell you when to BT and you wont have to think much about it

[thick fossil]

Just switch the sound for it, or you'll be overloaded from the ka-ching from SD tracker.
Fitting, but 10 of them in a row going off can get confusing.

[fiery harbor]

maybe maybe in theater of pain it can be somewhat legit but otherwise it seems crazy to me to go that route. it's a lot of overall damage to lose by not taking those 2 simple talent points.

[low folio]

@clever path when i play slayer fury in keys, i prefer this build. i go all in on execute and bt with raging blow as filler, just fishing for reap the storm procs since they are soft capped at 8 targets. i think it does well for a slayer build

[glad coyote]

what level keys you doing?

with that build

[low folio]

ive timed 4 13s

not all of them as fury tohugh

i did 13 workshop as this build specifically

[remote bobcat]

i hate your build

🔥

[low folio]

and top

[glad coyote]

i kinda wish slayer did more dmg

[clever path]

about to try

thanks!

[low folio]

i am at 28% haste though

[remote bobcat]

do u have the log of that

[low folio]

i did miss out on the first pack after the first boss because i fucked up leaping over the conveyor belt but ya i have the details still active. i dont log myself

[remote bobcat]

thats the second boss

[iron portal]

Show us the goods then

[low folio]

oh right

[remote bobcat]

lol

yea

[iron portal]

Workshop really is easy key

[remote bobcat]

I mean

[low folio]

ya

[remote bobcat]

you played with other hard capped classes

do the same key where your group starts doing first entire room pull and double extractor pull

and suddenly your dmg is piss

[queen linden]

Do we send double BT with Burst of power procs?

[iron portal]

Still timed it. Good . But i think that build will not go far

[queen linden]

or space them out with RB in between

[remote bobcat]

no

burst of power has zero effect on rotation

other than just giving u zero cd

but the priority list doesnt change

[queen linden]

kk

[low folio]

im just showing what i play when i wanna play slayer fury, i have had better keys but if im gonna go for a higher dps meter, arms is gonna be better regardless which is what i usually have been playing

this season

[chrome plover]

[remote bobcat]

idk pridefull

i see this

and im a hater

slayer has no place in high keys

[low folio]

i mean thane isnt that much better anyways, still just a capped spec in the end

[remote bobcat]

you would have beaten the monk as thane i guarantee you

[low folio]

maybe

i am stuck with a signet for active use

[remote bobcat]

thane is capped yes but thane has consistent aoe unlike slayer

[low folio]

i mean arms woulda definitely went higher than the monk

[remote bobcat]

yes

arms would smash

but thats a diff argument

[low folio]

i will agree slayer the way i play it is even more rng on dps than even the regular way of playing it

[tight roost]

Explain this for a dummy, provided you keep the ww buff up, what makes slayer less consistent in aoe dmg than mt?

[low folio]

reap the storm procs

if your proc them at a high roll often during bladestorm, its big damage, if you dont it falls off

[dense elbow]

"big damage"

[low folio]

sorry big damage for fury

[dense elbow]

it aint even big if it procs

[low folio]

its still below arms or other specs

[dense elbow]

It is bellow tanks

[tight roost]

Gotcha

[low folio]

at that point so is thane

im just enjoying what i find more fun whenver i can get away with playing it over arms

well arms isnt not fun i guess, i just really like fury

[dense elbow]

Ye, play for fun, 100%

[iron portal]

Well as long as you dont push it as better build, i respect you playing what you want

I would prefer playing slayer too

[dense elbow]

Meh, we prob going to get a nerf tho

[low folio]

i dont think its better, consistent is usually better than rng unless the rng is just massive

[dense elbow]

We are strong in the raid

[iron portal]

Its bigger dopamine. If only hits were also impactful

[hasty tree]

on First Boss mythic is it better to always BS on boss or is the pad on adds worth (from an egoistic log perspective)

[dense elbow]

Honestly it doesnt matter

our DPS isnt part of the equation

Ah, mythic raid, not mythic+

Just do whatever lorrrgs say

[chrome plover]

i think i pretty much send on cd

maybe hold if it's like 10-15s til other cds

[warm crag]

@compact siren got a r2 parse playing st talents and just hitting boss i dont think it overly matters what you do as long as your uptime is near 100%

get pinged noob

[clever belfry]

also matter that ur raid shoots the cars / ur tanks equip legs

👍

[warm crag]

tanks must equip leg spec

(failed)

[compact siren]

Just hit boss

W

[warm crag]

no WW is really funny

new vexie cook: you take the first ww talent but not the 2nd one

return to ww every 3 gcds

[compact siren]

I will do this I think

[warm crag]

what if i hit you with a witness forgive me angle

[hallow moth]

I have both buffs active right now for my mister lock n stalk lol

is it just bugged tooltip or do I have both active rn

[warm crag]

probs bugged go hit a target dummy

[gilded pawn]

full tunnelling boss is actually op

i have a friend who plays hunter for the past 6 tiers in a US top 10 guild

he full STs every fight

no exceptions

[hallow moth]

thats wildlol

[gilded pawn]

he parses 95+ every fight

so he must be doing something right

[fair swallow]

If the raid already has enough passive cleave, why not

[keen sequoia]

Is brew cringe or what for fury

or its better with arms

[fair swallow]

Cinderbrew is better for arms

[warm crag]

should probs just play arms (or prot) in every key

[fair swallow]

But fury is still viable

[warm crag]

this is true

[fair swallow]

Your focus as fury is priority damage with added cleave

So whichever add needs to die first you smack that mofo

[warm crag]

die frenzy die

[gilded pawn]

also the upside of pure ST is that you never have to learn add timers

[willow cradle]

Just make it so you don't lose stacks or only lose half your current stacks. Immediately less punishing.

[random raptor]

doing keys/m+ would be much more fun if it was more accessible, I feel like 70% of the time I'm not even playing the game

trying to do 13s bro

[willow cradle]

Are you in a guild? Cause that usually helps a ton

[random raptor]

yeah I am, but I'm the only one pushing, they don't usually try to push high which is annoying

[willow cradle]

Are you with them because of raid or are they a group of friends?

[chilly fractal]

Apparently I’m in a shitty mood I apologize

[keen sequoia]

Is arms uncapped?

or which abilities have more cap than fury

[random raptor]

well both, but its a mythic raid guild

[willow cradle]

No but you can spread bleeds

[keen sequoia]

with cleave?

[oblique trail]

Arms is soft capped

But generally for raw AoE, Arms performs better