fury

[calm mantle]

For those who still don't have a myth weapon, you still craft bracers this week ro waiting a week?

[sullen nexus]

Depends on when the weak aura goes KACHING

[marble pilot]

From what ive seen Thane takes the lead once the trash lives long enough. Slayer wins when you are still bursting them down quick.

[past egret]

I feel like im making simming too complicated...I used to just choose the great vault slots and sim on 1 target for 5 minutes and 5 target for 5 minutes to see which I should choose. I would have guessed that I would want shoulders (catalyse for myth and be done) or energy drink. Sim is saying cape is the best dps gain when maxed. That is the last thing I would have guessed. Did I do anything incorrectly here or is cape actually the play?

[marble pilot]

I dont do much M+

[ember apex]

normally that's a checkthepins situation, but its not in the pin. what WA are you referring to

[past egret]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8kcmyoS8KKvkUaEAyt8qKP https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8ZNczDSPnxLgrCHVRXswHu

[ember apex]

idk why it decided to newline my gif

[shrewd steppe]

That's what I usually do, and I wanted to check what everyone is running and then compare to what I knew back last time I played fury - which was like BFA or something
so I went into the hero talents page and saw something slightly off

[ember apex]

ty good buddy

if i miss the audio queue it's cast BT over 85%?

[fading sky]

Y

Or 45% below 35% health

In gen

[shrewd steppe]

@sullen nexus can I ask you what do you consider as a spec you'd recomend for beginners or returning players? is one of the hero talents more complex and has a high skill ceiling compared to the other?

[calm mantle]

I just cast my BT when ever it lights up with whatever weakaura I'm using then again I'm just an average fury

[ember apex]

arms is prob easier to gear and definitely easier to play imo

lots of plate specs need haste/mast gear

[shrewd steppe]

I'm specifically playing fury right now for a project

[ember apex]

what kind of project

[shrewd steppe]

a video about it

and I'm looking for opinions

[ember apex]

you really only need to feature mine since they're the most correct and most accurate

[shrewd steppe]

surely

[sullen nexus]

Mountain Thane is fantastic for M+, Slayer is fantastic in raid.

I only started playing this class at the start of this expansion so I'm still learning myself!

[sullen dove]

That is like one of the best capes, I can’t quite tell what cape you have on now cuz mobile weird but chances are if it’s a little lower ilvl than the shoulders or just has worse stats makes sense it’s higher

Either way it’s only higher by what like 1k?

[normal storm]

loool, here i am switching to fury because i cant hit dps numbers with arms lol

[sullen dove]

they’re both effectively the same upgrade so whichever u want mostly

[sullen nexus]

Mountain Thane also doesn't die, which is a big plus imo

[shrewd steppe]

I don't know how different fury and arms is since I last played it, but for me fury was always more simple to grasp rotationally as opposed to arms

[floral frigate]

question about eye of kezan, ive heard the stacks fall really fast would you still wear in m+?

[sullen dove]

O yea I mean I found it ur cape is 649 so just a lot more ilvl

[shrewd steppe]

that's fine, even your opinion counts

[sullen dove]

You can prolly upgrade it to 658 for free tho basically since no one should be hanging on runed crests really anymore

[normal storm]

yea fury is simpler in its rotation i find where arms has a lot of dynamic parts to it but also i havent seriously played wow until this patch, and by that i mean heroic prog / m10 keys

[sullen dove]

So just like upgrade the cape you have and then try again shoulder should be better @past egret

[ember apex]

im switching to fury b/c i had the same problem w/ sub rogue. my guild is now rogueless b/c i couldnt play that fucking hard as fuck class

[torpid elbow]

everyone come to fury

[lapis eagle]

we are like the noobie class

or what

[ember apex]

warrior is the default class when you make a new account
arms is the default spec when you make a warrior
make of that what you will

[shrewd steppe]

Would you consider one of those to be mechanically more challenging? I covered vengeance dh lately and they had 1 spec that was more simple for beginners and the other one was perfoming better in high m+ but had a high skill cieling so new and returning players aren't as inclined to play it

[normal storm]

idk how rogue in general is, but for arms at 650 il on heroic oab i was hitting 790k consistent dps where everyone else was hitting closer to 2m+, and even currently on fury as i sit at the dummy im still not hitting "good" numbers idt

[ember apex]

i dont play arms b/c i dont like the aesthetic, i'd rather have 20 small numbers vs 2 big ones - personally. but i know w/ fury when we look at like a lot of ppls logs the issue is literally just not pushing their buttons enough

[normal storm]

and ofc the one time we had another arms join i died early so i cant compare my logs vs his accurately at all but he was up there hitting 2.2m

[spare steppe]

it isnt just ilvl, its also stats/gear choices

[shrewd steppe]

I think it's just a low fantasy very meta popular class, it's designed that way, and it brings the human warrior statistics with it

[spare steppe]

Ret pally is simpler and more popular

[sullen dove]

800k at 650 is def just not hitting buttons right

Like mortal strike on cooldown execute on cooldown fill with overpower and slam as last priority

[ember apex]

i played ret pally s1 in tww and i parsed better on ret paladin than i ever did on warrior

[sullen dove]

keep Rend up and all that

[shrewd steppe]

true

[ember apex]

(mythic specifically)

i mean arms is keep up rend, rogue is keep up garrote, rupture, envenom stacks, etc...

[shrewd steppe]

spinning plates class

like affliction

[normal storm]

yea ofc, dont get me wrong ik stats play a huge part into it, but for general context i got best-in-slots on normal, im 5/5 on my tier pieces, and tbh idk what good stats look like, i just tried to prio what archon and wowhead said, but i will say when i swapped to fury my stats lined up better with what wowhead / archon said and i got higher % some how

[spare steppe]

% changes per spec

[normal storm]

yea i just didnt think it would be as big as it was

[spare steppe]

but in terms of damage, yeah rotation

[fading sky]

Wdym? U get 1 morr weapon

[normal storm]

that was without a 2nd weapon

[fading sky]

Ofc. U have more stats?

[normal storm]

like yesterday before reset i just swapped to fury to see and learn and i noticed my stats had a huge jump, with my arms gear

now i have a 2nd weap and they are even higher lol

[fading sky]

? What stats? Mastery?

Coz not.much else moves

[normal storm]

crit, haste, mastery

sec i can actually ss the difference

[grave sphinx]

Anyone know why we can’t get more runed crests this week?

[fading sky]

Uhit cap

[ember apex]

did u run heroic raid?

that's like the fastest way to cap since we just reset

[grave sphinx]

hit cap last week, I thought it was upped every week on reset

[ember apex]

it is

[past egret]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8WuGUhKZ7bEFnAidRHmRFX << this shows shoulders barely beating out energy drink. The way I simmed this though was to upgrade all my current pieces to max, and compare them to the GV counterpart at max. Is that an appropriate way to think about it?

[grave sphinx]

unless Elvui is bugging, I hit cap last week at 270/270 and it hasn’t been upped

Maybe a bug?

[fading sky]

It always ups?

[grave sphinx]

I’m telling you I was at 270 last week idk

[calm mantle]

I usse Elvui and mine updated, restart your game, update your addons or something.

[normal storm]

arms left vs fury right, tbh i might not know what a huge % change looks like though

[grave sphinx]

hmm ok

[floral frigate]

if your cap of crests is wrong relogging fixed for me

[fading sky]

Its equak

Y got more crit on left?

[grave sphinx]

I’ll check it when I get home tonight thanks

[normal storm]

thats just the gear i have from raid / m+ / tier

[floral frigate]

ya your really low on h/m for fury

that crit is just wild

[fading sky]

Its nice for col arms in keys

[normal storm]

sorry idt i communicated properly lol, i was on arms until today

[sullen dove]

I mean it’s not improbable the trinkets better than the zee one by a bit effect doesn’t seem too bad, but there are other trinkets that are probably still better, like hoc and kezan from raid that u prolly replace the energy drink for, so I’d say shoulders will go a longer way since I would never need to think about that slot for the rest of the season

[normal storm]

so if my fury stats are off thats why

[floral frigate]

ya i saw that earlier

[fading sky]

But you talked about a huge jump in stat

?

[floral frigate]

those are good arms stats,

[fading sky]

Thats where im confused

[normal storm]

yea thats what i mean, going from 37-16-23 to 32-18-27 seems like a huge jump

[fading sky]

No??

[normal storm]

tbf i could just not realize how stats are changed per spec

i have very limited wow knowledge

[fading sky]

Its almost the same overall?

[sullen dove]

fury wants like 50%+ mastery about

[floral frigate]

did you switch out a few times for your fury gear besides adding the second weapon?

[sullen dove]

And evenish distribution of other stats

[fading sky]

Or do u mean difference between the stats

[floral frigate]

items not times

[torpid elbow]

20-25% haste and crit

[normal storm]

no, even for todays vault i was on arms but that was because i was told you can get 1h weapons while on fury spec for vault

[sullen dove]

u get 1handers if ur fury loot spec

[normal storm]

yea sorry, meant fury

[floral frigate]

always arms loot spec unless you want tank stuff

i think for your stats what we are asking, if you changed items besides adding another weapon

[river hare]

Question for my Fury Warrior: do we use the same enchant on both weapons or two different ones? The guides don't tell me and I'm not smart enough to know these things. lol

[floral frigate]

because your crit went down

[sullen dove]

Both is fine

[normal storm]

oh no, i havent swapped gear out, and also that screenshot on the right is still 1h since it was comparing the arms vs fury

% change

[floral frigate]

wait, are you doing fury with 1 handers?

[normal storm]

this is with another 2h

[floral frigate]

im confused now

[normal storm]

no

[river hare]

on the icy veins website for fury warrior it shows these two but idk if it means to do 2 of the one that suites your content best?

[floral frigate]

oh just 1 two hander

[normal storm]

yea lol

sorry, im bad at explaining stuff

[floral frigate]

ok

[sullen dove]

If you’re looking for pure aoe damage yea you can pick the other most just do double depths anyway

[river hare]

ok thanks

[floral frigate]

well in the long run less crit and more mastery

[sullen dove]

more single target “prio damaage” love that buzzword

and better for raid

[floral frigate]

your haste isnt bad

[stark lantern]

for the "devour" affix, what is the most optimal / efficient way to receive the buff? is it only victory rush or can healers also assist?

[normal storm]

yea it will prob take time to get diff gear but this is why im trying out fury because im parsing this on normal with arms lol

[hardy bluff]

thats not a gear issue

unless you are like 600 ilevel

[normal storm]

yea thats what the convo was initially about, that i was switching to fury because i suck at arms

[fading sky]

Are u dead?

Or did u live those fights

[normal storm]

oab i think i mightve been but the rest i was up for the kill

[tepid solar]

So heroic dumpster diver with speed, or mythic flesh fused circle with avoidance? Long term is the mythic ring a better play?

[lapis yoke]

Is the noggenfogger trinket actually good?

Or is is sim bait

[sullen nexus]

If the dude doesn't die and can hit the mob/etc. sure

[lapis yoke]

How does he die lol, from mechanics or bs?

[sullen nexus]

From a stiff breeze from the description given earlier

[lapis yoke]

Hmmm

Thanks

[winter shoal]

Plug your logs into wowanalyzer

[glad coyote]

take the myth ring imo

you can always get a heroic weapon from m+ or heroic raid

[fading sky]

Y

[glad coyote]

plus i believe that weapon has terrible stats for fury

[spare steppe]

Bis and capital have grest stats

[lyric panther]

is mountain thane the play for stix prog?

[median kestrel]

yes

[thorny cove]

well I got my spark the question now is what stats do I choose 🤔

do I just go haste/mast bracers or should I sim

[smoky vale]

2

[torpid elbow]

how you get your spark?

[thorny cove]

@torpid elbow awakening the machine and weekly

[torpid elbow]

oh ok cool

[thorny cove]

well technically I did the wq weekly cuz i forgot to pick up the awakening one first 😅

[remote zephyr]

Would ya'll go for Best-in-Slots to replace a 665 weapon or a heroic -> mythic ilvl upgrade tier piece?

heroic best in slots, same ilvl as 665

[fading sky]

Mythic tier id just take tbh

U wont replace it

[clever iron]

eny one haves same fury warrior wa as archi?

[full portal]

how good is mister lock-n-stalk?

[coarse nest]

sims better for me in 3/4 minute vs eye

[full portal]

does it lose anything from target swapping?

[winter shoal]

No

[manic gulch]

is wowanalyzer accurate ?

[median kestrel]

guys can someone post their amazing vault so i can be irrationally mad at them

[coarse nest]

Bowll would know

[whole yacht]

finally got my hands on one

[manic gulch]

does it take into consideration boss phases and timings from raid logs ?

[manic gulch]

nice, what addon is that

that tells you its bis

[median kestrel]

am i cooked or im good?

[winter shoal]

For the most part yes, at least for core rotational things

[fickle cedar]

finally done

(was painful )

[manic gulch]

do you get anything else besides the mount for going to 3k ?

[median kestrel]

bragging rights for getting 3k on a terrible spec for m+

[fading sky]

Finally kek week what 4

[silk vapor]

If you do a 15 key you get the legion mog i believe

[median kestrel]

no you get that for doing a 10

[fickle cedar]

what do you mean kek week

[whole yacht]

is eye as good as sims say? or is it a little bit overhyped?

[tepid cedar]

damn finally found a 658 mechano!

[silk vapor]

?

[fickle cedar]

its better the longer the fight is

[silk vapor]

Wasnt it 15 ?

[tepid cedar]

new ST sim. mechano was niceeeee 🙂

[whole yacht]

so if my guild is killing shit in 5 minutes, its good. but if they are killing shit in 2 minutes, something else might be better?

basically?

[fickle cedar]

yeah probably, you can always sim 2m with eye and other trinkets and see the difference

[tepid cedar]

well, even at 5 min. its almost minimal. at 6 min + is when u start seiong the highest increases

[fickle cedar]

yeah probably, dont know the details im running pace and mechano

[tepid cedar]

same, rocking a 678 pace and this new 658 mecha, has replaced my 658 eye.

[fickle cedar]

big legs pog

[somber elk]

Legion mog?

[fickle cedar]

nice grats!

[silk vapor]

Yes

Artifact weapon

[balmy shore]

@young swan ive been told to tell u to link ur vault and heroic box

[marble schooner]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/xBcKJhjctT8a2wBfScELhP

does this count as 2.5m gang or not

[fickle cedar]

up to you but you should probably make it 658, bracers aint that worth to get to 675 that fast, unless you got nothing to upgrade

[hallow sphinx]

just tell him to blow up

[balmy shore]

blow up xan

[warm crag]

you couldve been if u didnt craft mythic cloak

detonate

[next ruin]

Is this why I unlocked a new artifact appearance i didn't have?

[median kestrel]

@silk vapor since the key level squish you actually get the achievement from a much lower key than a 15, that achievement is no longer accurate, a current 15 compared to an old 15 is a crazy comparison, so you now get it sooner

[median kestrel]

correct

[silk vapor]

My dk hasn’t though

[median kestrel]

im not sure 100% if is a 10, but it is definitely not a 15

[warm crag]

expldoe?

[gleaming siren]

expldoe.

[queen linden]

Interesting. Best in slots doesn't have an internal CD for the proc. Idk how I feel about that lol

[median kestrel]

expldoe fr.

[oblique trail]

loser

[balmy shore]

ub linked it to me lmaoooooo

gz

xan's won

[oblique trail]

fed loot, still gray parser

[young swan]

mad

[fading sky]

Plz buff capital punisher

[balmy shore]

i got myth pacemaker today twinned with @tidal kindle garmalarm

[restive peak]

I got a house of cards I already have brop

So annoyed

[median kestrel]

i got 3 wrists

[fading sky]

Nice

[next ruin]

How does it work, I'd love to do it on other characters

[queen linden]

Ooo and you can have the on use and proc up at the same time.

double mastery 🤤

[dire vigil]

Are people having difficulty obtaining their spark this week?

[hollow bramble]

anoter myth track weap or mythc track pants and i will craft the weap?

[queen linden]

[restive peak]

Couldnt pay me to not take 2nd myth wep

[next ruin]

Isn't losing ascendance a bigger loss in ST?

[restive peak]

No

[next ruin]

Good to know

[restive peak]

It's very minimally better than double dusk

And dusk immediately becomes better when multiple targets are introduced

[open prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-explosion-gif-7138394752046712707

[spare steppe]

easy decision here

[open prairie]

hero sus energy drink

[steep fable]

For those that both raid and run keys, what embellishments are you running?

[fading sky]

Noggenfucer

[open prairie]

I really like how amorphous got buffed 100%

and it still sucks

[thorny cove]

ayy finally in 660 club

[spare steppe]

noggen is honestly tempting but i dont have a mythic 2h yet soooo

oh wtf noggen is an even bigger upgrade than a normal capital -> 278 2h

[fading sky]

Its a horrid trinket

Dont

[manic gulch]

do most boss fights in mythic raid last over 6 minutes ?

[spare steppe]

but the sims!

it says to do it

[thorny cove]

still can't get into a 12 xdddd

660, 4 set, 2700 score, gg

[warm crag]

brop

[winter shoal]

Good news fury enthusiasts, wowanalyzer will no longer yell at you for using whirlwind incorrectly when you aren't 🙂 It will however yell at you for using whirlwind/TC incorrectly when you are 🙂

(this was merged but I'm not 100% sure what their deployment pipeline is, so not sure when it'll be live, probably within the hour)

[restive peak]

brop cuz it doesn't deserve a bro

[dense elbow]

I cant get into a 10 with 2.9k score and as tank, it is over
time to wait for next season

[warm crag]

ravenous honey buzzer or big red button

[coarse nest]

man people just dont target the minecart in darkflame aye

[spare steppe]

o.O

[warm crag]

wtf does this mean

[coarse nest]

shoulda been fury moment

[dense elbow]

It went boom

[warm crag]

oh on first boss

i thought u meant final

[spare steppe]

is noggenfogger sim actually realistic?

[next ruin]

Are you on a Spanish realm

[junior gale]

yeah if he lives

[dense elbow]

Nein

[warm crag]

it does that much damage if the guy lives and doesnt have weird pet pathing issues

[coarse nest]

apply to 12 darkflame

[warm crag]

idk if he lives i have seen literally no data on that

[coarse nest]

since people gotta brick my 13

[next ruin]

Pt realm ? It ?

[dense elbow]

Ravencrest, why?

[next ruin]

Trying to guess why you wouldn't be invited

[manic gulch]

aren't groups cross realm ?

wtf

[dense elbow]

My guess, ppl want DH or something?

[coarse nest]

warrior duh

[dense elbow]

Who knows

[spare steppe]

thats wild, feels very tempting and yet bait

[warm crag]

just cause you discriminate based on realm doesnt mean that most of us do ye

[warm crag]

do you already have weapon

[manic gulch]

unless its kazzak

even they discriminate against each other

[dense elbow]

Hmm, actually, maybe it is my ilvl.

Is 661 behind the curve atm?

[spare steppe]

1 crafted and 1 normal punisher

havent seen heroic BIS yet 😦

[warm crag]

ok pick weapon why are you thinking about noggenfogger

[spare steppe]

sims

only reason

[torpid elbow]

what classes do ppl want in mythic +

?

[warm crag]

idk you either dont have trinkets equipped or did a silly sim

[manic gulch]

w/e streamers say its meta

[dense elbow]

^ this

[spare steppe]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/aPcTz78qq8JLRX3eWrrg6Q

[fading sky]

Dno i have it. And add dies or facks up

[warm crag]

mm yes the lower ilvl in mainhand technology

[next ruin]

I don't but it's a well known thing, maybe I know it cos I play on one of those realms? Why jumping to conclusions?

[spare steppe]

good catch, ty! lemme sim again

thanks spongie

[next ruin]

Wow analyzer still tells me not to use builder if rampage is available, not sure

[warm crag]

like nm capital punisher is so terrible its not even fair

[spare steppe]

ok we're good it successfully beats noggenfogger

[winter shoal]

That's probably because you're using a builder instead of rampage when you should be using rampage instead of a builder 🤔

[spare steppe]

I was just trying to understand how it was simming worse

[gleaming crag]

well....

[warm crag]

oly moly

[coarse nest]

big gz!

[winter shoal]

Can you link the report

[coarse nest]

hoping to get HoC out of mine or hero shoulder tier if thats possible

or ring even

[spare steppe]

appreciate the help

[next ruin]

https://wowanalyzer.com/report/FwpATytC4fjR1YMn/22-4+Sprocketmonger+Lockenstock/Nesquik/standard
And
https://wowanalyzer.com/report/JvLtg2fajkMXQ9AZ/43-4+Mug'Zee,+Heads+of+Security/Nesquik/standard

I'm trying to keep using builders until I'm above 100 in rage and not whenever rampage is available

[winter shoal]

Why exe 3 times in 6 seconds?

[next ruin]

I have no clue man

[winter shoal]

During reck (esp with lust) you should mash ramp asap because your rage gen is so high

[next ruin]

I failed probably

[winter shoal]

Like basically every other gcd

[next ruin]

I use it when it goes kaching, or nothing else to press

[dense elbow]

Press execute when it pops, or you aint a warrior

[coarse nest]

Yaint

[next ruin]

Yep this is something I did poorly that's for sure

[dense elbow]

nou

[winter shoal]

Idk your sprocket log looks mostly correct, it shouldn't be complaining about this RB because of BF but I'll take a look at that later

"looks mostly correct" meaning it's flagging things as incorrect that look incorrect

[coarse nest]

Yaint war if yaint exercuutinn

[thorny cove]

will I eventually get into 12s when I have 10 vaults and 675 equipped?

[winter shoal]

and "shouldn't" meaning I have a BF/SS check in there so idk why it's mad about that one, maybe an ordering of the BF buff relative to a queued RB cast in the log idk

[dense elbow]

[coarse nest]

[next ruin]

Good to know, I'll give it a better look tmrw at work, thanks for keeping the tool updated

This might sounds stupid but it feels very good to have everything sorted and updated, starting a somewhat dead spec as an alt and it is such a pain to find data. Everyone is feelycrafting / gatekeeping

[winter shoal]

btw @next ruin it shouldn't be yelling at you for the RB at 0:10, but 0:13 and 0:14 are correctly being flagged as bad because refreshing enrage is higher prio than stacking SS for BF

Again esp during lust, you're missing out on like 2-3 rampages worth of damage and AM cdr from 0:10-0:15

I guess you didn't lust there bc mugzee but still

Enrage higher prio than SS stacking

[next ruin]

i thought the other way around

[kind mantle]

holy fucking shit, the 4 dungeon quest is worth

[whole yacht]

😮

lucky mf

[next ruin]

wow

[coarse nest]

yo grats thats big!

[next ruin]

this prolly feels like having a bis legendary in a cache in 7.0

[winter shoal]

Line 56 is rampage either with 4xSS or to refresh enrage, lin 61 is RB to stack SS for BF

[coarse nest]

real

[kind mantle]

its all over my screen fs

[next ruin]

i do believe you im taking notes

[whole yacht]

im being declined to 5's of dungeons i have 10+ done for. brother people need to relax. its a 5

[coarse nest]

you dont give them the meta buff they need

[whole yacht]

true

mb

[kind mantle]

I get declined to 6s I've done 11s on as prot so I get it

[dense elbow]

I thought not getting invited to 10s was bad

[next ruin]

spec as arms while tagging, might help

change last second

[dense elbow]

We going previous season Druid strats

big brain

[coarse nest]

cant time 5s without the optimal comp

dontcha know

[whole yacht]

5's impossible rn tbh

[next ruin]

i just started a feral alt, and i feel like i have less problem getting into keys than you guys as fury, feels sus

[dense elbow]

Feral pumps tho

[coarse nest]

xD

druid buff fam

easy pick

its all about them buffs to the wizards!

[dense elbow]

Fury = DPS loss, really.
Feral = big DPS, uncapped AoE

[next ruin]

it does, but it is so frustating having no clue what i am doing, the apl is different on every single website

[coarse nest]

might have to go one trick feral now

[clever path]

Of all my characters (enh/surv/dh/ret) my fury warrior was by far the hardest to get a group on even on keys ive already timed js

[next ruin]

feral literally is fury with a real raidbuff

[dense elbow]

Lets be real tho, we were really strong in s1 the first few weeks.

So we kinda deserve this situation we are in now.

[full portal]

are you guys using legendary skippers or windsingers now

[next ruin]

btw if someone is really good at feral id have some questions in dm's too ^^

[dense elbow]

Aint any good ferals in here
Ferals are bigbrain
Warrior smoll

There is no player overlap

[thin trellis]

me no small brain, me smack things hard

[next ruin]

Playing something that has no raid spot is also not the smartest choice, could go both ways

[dense elbow]

If you are a raider and complain about Fury, ya need to go touch grass

[next ruin]

I don't, other way around. I picked up raiding bcos fury. Im trying to find myself in m+ now tho

[open prairie]

i mean you just shoot yourself in the foot

not playing prot in dungeons

[dense elbow]

Try arms, ppl are having fun and success with it

[next ruin]

I'd rather reroll a good spec

[dense elbow]

ppl dont even invite you as prot, currently.

[open prairie]

post nerf?

prot kinda fucks on damage

[dense elbow]

EU, current

[next ruin]

I play it in big pulls dungeons, its fun but I'd rather play something else really. I gave it a try

[dense elbow]

If so, time to swap from skyhold to KittyIsland or whatever the druids call their place

[open prairie]

idk whats even meta key tank now

most vdhs are god awful

[dense elbow]

Doesnt matter, meta is meta

[open prairie]

if i see a male elf dh

[dense elbow]

And Pwarrior just got chunked. So perception will be; get vdh

[open prairie]

thats an instant decline

[quiet breach]

timed my first 10 yuhhhh

[next ruin]

Their place isn't a class server, it's a lgbt discussion zone. No point in asking questions or talking about wow

[dense elbow]

Gz Iskus!

[quiet breach]

absolutely crushed a priory

[dense elbow]

Hell yeah

[near wing]

Does arms stacked with fury gear perform better in M+? Or do I need to completely revamp gearing

[open prairie]

i feel prot pal is better

idk

[dense elbow]

You want more crit than mastery, but it gets the job done with mastery

[open prairie]

better dam, spellwarding

[dense elbow]

you feel what you feel

[next ruin]

Also why arms warrior is annoying, even if it's good in Pre-made, you'll get less invites overall

[quiet breach]

question here for anybody pugging, can pugs 8/8 H undermine yet

in general

[dense elbow]

still more invites than you get as Fury, so hey

[sullen dove]

imagine last 2 still sorta hard for pugs

but idk

more gear checkwise not mechanically

just need to be able to live shit

[open prairie]

maybe idk

average prot warr player i run into in pugs

[next ruin]

I don't I haven't had any invite problem as fury, but I mostly do my keys or weekly 10 so I'm not a judge

[open prairie]

is better than average vdh

vdh players are on a mission to brick the key

s2g

[quiet breach]

is it just me or does BM hunters pump both in single target AND aoe

in m+

like they don't have to pick one like we do as warriors

[sullen dove]

me when random delve necklace better than cinderbrew neck lole

[open prairie]

delves the real endgame

[sullen dove]

and fang being better than signet of the priory is nasty work

but i mean w rat fang

[near wing]

I don’t have problems with 10s, can usually get in one with 10 min of trying, 11s and above still a struggle to get invited, but I think that will change. Idk that 12s will be the ceiling where it will be challenging to get invited this season

[open prairie]

i realized spamming delves is better runed farm for alts

than doing lower keys

[sullen dove]

alternatively

do enough 10s

and u get runed from those

2 birds with 1 stone

[next ruin]

Wait until you realize they're not even a top 3 spec but "only" a top 5

[open prairie]

nah thats gildeds

a t11 can be done in 5 mins

[sullen dove]

cap gildeds get runed

[quiet breach]

surely if u can time each dungeon at 10 u should be able to get invites to 12s?

[open prairie]

if you’re fast

[sullen dove]

but also surely done with runed by now

[open prairie]

i said alts

[near wing]

Nah, I’ve done that, still no invite to 12s

[quiet breach]

damnnnn

that's crazy

[sullen dove]

[near wing]

I exclusively pug, so I can’t get mad about it

[quiet breach]

same

[next ruin]

That's why I'm rerolling a meta class for m+, although I dislike the usual m+ meta classes so im going to do my keys I guess lol

[quiet breach]

my guild is disbanding I'm gonna pug until I can get consistently good logs

then join a guild that plans to go into mythic eventually

[sullen dove]

this feature is so good man

[quiet breach]

if I can actually pug heroic and not be slamming my head into a wall

[open prairie]

lmfao i need to do that when i get on

[quiet breach]

if I find that I can't il just join whatever decent looking guild will have me

[next ruin]

This works when playing meta specs, and you will get invited to an 11. If you play a troll spec people take you if this is farming content for you

[sullen dove]

i seemed to have fucked up on runed crests tho

will always have 30 i cant use

[near wing]

I pugged heroic gally all weekend, probably 60 pulls between all the groups, no kill 😕

[sullen dove]

ruined myself with 1 upgrade

[quiet breach]

fury warrior isn't troll spec tho

isn't there a lot of high io furies

maybe its not the metaest of meta but like

[open prairie]

io doesnt affect community circlejerk

[quiet breach]

I heard a lot of ppl are pushing high io in m+ on fury

[sullen dove]

both warr specs are kinda nuts

think arms still a lil better

but like noxiv fury gaming rn

its plenty good enough

[next ruin]

Fury warrior kinda is a troll spec if your comp isn't all physical

[sullen dove]

i mean your comp being that doesnt really matter

[near wing]

To be clear, I do feel more love this season for furry warrior than last. Last season I was hard stuck at 11s for majority of season. I think ceiling will be higher this season, but 12 was the break last season

[sullen dove]

the only like inherent warrior buffs youd want that may not typically be commonplace is like monk mystic touch or something

[quiet breach]

is community circle jerk = whichever spec has big number on cinder brew first room = meta?

[sullen dove]

but like druid verse is pretty common

[near wing]

I think the benefit of fury is you do good dps, and you literallly never die

[open prairie]

No its whatever streamers play

[sullen dove]

fury isnt really getting that buffed by the bis comp, more like rogue and hunter

getting both bshout and mystic touch

are getting astrocarried by that comp

[open prairie]

m+ers are deranged and spend 5 hours a day watching yoda or dorki

instead of going to therapy

[quiet breach]

I always can reach into my bag of defensive tools every time I feel even the slightest bit sus

its crazy

[near wing]

Decent interrupts, but the survivability is the biggest thing I’ve noticed

[next ruin]

Fury buffs them by 5% flat, but if your team is a boomy and a mage, you bring a big 0

[sullen dove]

and they buff YOU zero

ergo they are also not worth playing

[next ruin]

People just pick other classes if they have a the choice, also fury just does less damage

[open prairie]

every melee has same interrupts

well enh has shorter

[quiet breach]

what does rogue buff do

[near wing]

Idk I haven’t seen the less damage as prevalent. Feel like by the end, overall damage is about the same. We certainly spike a lot less though

[next ruin]

Fury just have an overall miles behind other classes, thats it. People wanna time their keys, so they bring what pumps more

[open prairie]

rogue is more about they have silence

[sullen dove]

you keep exaggerating this miles thing

[open prairie]

on packs

even though average pug tank is a chainpulling monkey

[manic gulch]

[near wing]

Yea, agree with swordfish, I don’t really think fury is behind in dps. Again, maybe on very large spike packs, but overall, we are even

[sullen dove]

fury and arms are still both like top 10 specs to play in m+

just not pinnacle top 3 or anything no probably not

[next ruin]

I'd say arms is really close damage wise, that's why you see a lot of them on top pushing keys, but fury just struggles and doesn't fit the classic strats. It just doesn't do 30M on first pzck of brew. Doesn't happen

[open prairie]

people saying big pack dps

as if the average pug pulls big

well some pug tanks do pull big and die 2 gcds in

[sullen dove]

it doesnt need to if the other 2 group members are and the fury is the one blasting chef chewie

[open prairie]

and then “d/c”

[near wing]

😂😂😂

That’s so true

[next ruin]

You won't time your 14 by doing 5 mobs per 5 mobs

[open prairie]

“i saw yoda does this on stream”

[quiet breach]

I'm curious tho what is a BM hunters weakness in m+, if they even have one

[open prairie]

its like in bfa if i saw someone link a dratnos route that was an instant leave key

[sullen dove]

mechanics

[open prairie]

before they put it in

[dense elbow]

They are squish if played badly, Iskus

[manic gulch]

Monsieur Chewie did nothing wrong to deserve that

[quiet breach]

wym

[sullen dove]

just meme of hunters being bad at mechanics

[quiet breach]

oh lol

[next ruin]

Yea I love playing slayer fury in keys for those reasons, but it doesn't seem enough

[quiet breach]

slayer blows dick in keys

[open prairie]

idk noxiv is doing fine

[manic gulch]

they die if anything sneeze's their way

[dense elbow]

Slayer is feeling kinda meh, sure

[manic gulch]

[open prairie]

I mean im gonna be honest

most mechanics in m+ are avoidable

[dense elbow]

You just got to convince yourself that Slayer ST is good, and that is all that matters. Then only look at ST boss DPS

[open prairie]

damage at least

[dire vigil]

Make collateral damage a 10 second meat cleaver buff after Ravager or Bladestorm ends that cleaves to 7 targets instead of 4

[tepid cedar]

Benefits of having a set group and the new resilient keys make things easier

[quiet breach]

what's resilient keys

[open prairie]

i mean it does matter when you check the ret pally’s breakdown and the important mob is 10th on the list

[dense elbow]

After you done all 12s, you cant go lower, all 13s, same, 14s, same

[quiet breach]

oh ye i read about this

[dense elbow]

so in a premade you can push upwards quite efficently

[open prairie]

dont pug

[tepid cedar]

I enjoy pugging

[manic gulch]

how

unless you're pugging very high keys

[quiet breach]

how good of a player do u have to be to get 3k io by the end of the season (wihtout buying carries)

is it reasonable for someone in his first season since legion to get it

[manic gulch]

away from bob who has been playing since vanilla but doesn't know what an interrupt is

i guess they can be decent there too

[tepid cedar]

I mean I’m almost all 14s pugging only a few to go

[open prairie]

Some guy in my guild got 3k like

[tepid cedar]

And being capped is extremely rough. Some of these classes aren’t far off ST

[open prairie]

2 weeks ago

[near wing]

See I don’t know how that’s possible

[dense elbow]

I am 40score from 3k, so you just need to have semi-working hands, and half a eye worth of vision.

[tepid cedar]

I mean you can look me up

[next ruin]

Physical god comp is good, esp with 5 great players in Pre-made

[manic gulch]

its all about premade groups

[open prairie]

yeah its a social game

make friends

[tepid cedar]

This

[manic gulch]

the difference between premade and pug is day and night

[near wing]

lol I’m not saying you’re lying, I don’t understand how you get into 12s

[manic gulch]

from two different planets

[near wing]

As a pug

[next ruin]

This season yes def, learn arms warrior if you want to make it easier for you, or prot

[open prairie]

i would never play this game to pug

there are much better games to invest time in

than pugging wow

[quiet breach]

he has a rank 1 parse

[dense elbow]

persistence, is key. The cryllics usually give a warrior a chance

[quiet breach]

idk if that actually helps him or if the groups see that

[tepid cedar]

So equinox made a video of a prior run I did a 13 with

[manic gulch]

we just need to wait for the m+ queue in the next two expansions

[tepid cedar]

https://youtu.be/dC5gD8EkvZI?si=iVrbWhx57KZMdbh4

[manic gulch]

surely it will come

[young swan]

people that are actually good arent nearly as anal about comp as the people that think they're good

[tepid cedar]

Was a clean ass run and I was going HARRRDDD

Love that comp

[near wing]

Nice, will watch now!

[open prairie]

being an off meta tank is actually harder

than offmeta dps

tbh

[manic gulch]

apocalypse, you're a streamer right ?

i think i have seen your name in twitch

[open prairie]

though most good tank players play fotm

generally speaking

[manic gulch]

wow is all about the meta

anyway

yeah you can do things without meta

but meta makes everything easier

[open prairie]

if they’re actually good

[violet condor]

if u put a socket on crafted armor and upgrade it from runed crest to gilded crest will it keep the socket?

[open prairie]

like i pretty much avoid meta healer specs

for vault keys

shit is a red flag

[dense elbow]

I just avoid Holy Priests, cause they always minmax angel uptime

[open prairie]

real

real

[tepid cedar]

Yea it’s a good watch!! Especially how equinox plays brew. That dude is on another level

[manic gulch]

i avoid balance druids because they pull half the fucking dungeon with the starfall

and yeah i know its a bug

but idc

blizz wont fix it

[open prairie]

if someone willingly plays hpriest over disc

[next ruin]

I should really give thane a real try in keys but I just can't. That ravager + am playstyle really annoys me

[quiet breach]

[open prairie]

in a season where disc doesnt suck

avoid

[manic gulch]

out of curiosity, what you don't like about am

[sullen dove]

monster spitting

[manic gulch]

you get to have cds almost every pack

[open prairie]

pretty sure ret pallys do this too

with divine storm shooting

[frank dawn]

Divine Storm nothing like Starfall lol

[manic gulch]

yeah not even close

[open prairie]

i mean i dont invite boomies

because boomkins

[manic gulch]

chickens will literally pull shit from what feels like a mile away

[open prairie]

mfs will hold their cds

for 10 mins

because “muh boss dps”

[tepid cedar]

Yea the 14 priority I did even more damage. There’s a tech I said it here before but I. Site the high key guys dot. Wanna say it bc they will announce it after keys have gone high and then they’ll release it to get patched

[next ruin]

I dislike ravager, it feels bloated (not by much I know) and I miss old RA flow

[quiet breach]

accidently updated my addons with game running in the background now my pc is exploding

[tepid cedar]

But on prioriry. The castigation shield

On 2nd boss

[manic gulch]

let it run its course or it may nuke itself and all of your settings with it

[tepid cedar]

If everyone felt the tank gets behind the boss

Then you glitch the cast and no aoe comes out

[dense elbow]

Old news, but neat repeat for ppl who dont know

[next ruin]

I didn't get what you meant, are you abusing a bug to do higher damage?

[open prairie]

is he reflecting consecrate

[young swan]

u can reflect castigators shield

[tepid cedar]

No. The 2nd boss won’t cast it

[manic gulch]

WHAT

[tepid cedar]

If everyone stand behind him

[manic gulch]

isn't that a ground cast ?

[sullen dove]

the boss aoe?

[tepid cedar]

Yes

You don’t get the boss aoe

[sullen dove]

just reflect it does no dmg to you

dont think it hurts the boss

[tepid cedar]

Makes that fight a lot easier

[modest condor]

it does

but it's not a big reflect

[young swan]

prob will just get fixed anyways cause its easily replicable even just by accident

[manic gulch]

apocalypse

in the video you sent

you did reflect the cast

but the boss still spawned the aoe

[quiet breach]

ur supposed to pick "advanced sim" option when using simulation craft to sim rgiht?

[sullen dove]

uh no

thats just for like putting your own code/strings of stuff in there usually

top gear is what mostly is used

or droptimizer

[next ruin]

You should check 4x precision although right ?

[sullen dove]

eh prolly if u dont need the sim in the next like 5 seconds

[still spear]

Guys in AOE should I spend Burst of Power procs asap to avoid overcapping new procs or should I keep following the priority and only press bt when the WA glows?

[sullen dove]

doesnt hurt to to make it more accurate

i think as thane its fine to bt basically on cd?

assuming youre still enraged and stuff

in aoe specifically

[tepid cedar]

Needs to sooner than later . But you know how mfrs are abuse it get to 18 then release it so ppl can’t use it to catch up to get it patcher

[manic gulch]

exploit early, exploit often

blizz wont do anything about it

[tepid cedar]

You know what’s a hard key now lol

Fkn rookery

[dense elbow]

I got invited to a 10, they saw I played Slayer, and kicked me

[tepid cedar]

Timer is super tight

[coarse nest]

LOL

owned!

👢

[manic gulch]

wtf

checking players in a 10

[coarse nest]

bro they hateing cuase you do more boss damage

[next ruin]

Told you, colo arms until last second

[quiet breach]

pog, just found out the mythic track ring i took from vault is simming lower then my old ring

the other options were dogshit

maybe i need to fully upgrade that ring for it to be better, i wonder if theres a way i can see the sim with max rank on both

[dense elbow]

I think it is time to accept I wont get to do any keys right now. Oh well, tomorrow is a new day

[next ruin]

You can upgrade items in raidbot

[quiet breach]

its 1/6 myth

so maybe it will be better

[next ruin]

Max valor / crests on the headframe. Then click on "+" on each items and upgrade the item

[queen panther]

So got B.I.S. In vault, do you just use the on use on cd? Or just hold it till it lines up with avatar?

[quiet breach]

ty\

[warm crag]

i wonder what this plus does

[clever belfry]

just send

[queen panther]

Sweet

[still spear]

RB > BT in the priority unless I have enough crit or target < 35% health. Does the Brust of Power procs changes any of this or there is no problem potentialy losing some new Brust of Power procs?

[sullen dove]

random n

[clever belfry]

gives u +1 chromosome

[sullen dove]

n=1

[warm crag]

random n

[next ruin]

A picture is worth a thousand words as they say

[queen panther]

Macoring it with ancestral call lol

[sullen dove]

i think in this situation you rampage if you can but if you cant still send the bts

[next ruin]

I think bt>rb in aoe as Mt? But I'm not even sure tbf I change every pack

[sullen dove]

essentially what it looks like from there

[warm crag]

i think silm said its good in mass aoe and barely a loss in >2 targets so just press bt

[next ruin]

Also gives you a little more effective health if you spam bt during pulls instead of rb, could be an argument if pushing keyd

[warm crag]

that is not an argument sorry

[subtle raven]

fuck u

[next ruin]

[subtle raven]

[clever belfry]

rude?

[subtle raven]

u are thebausffs of fury warriors

[sullen dove]

can you provide insight as to why the holy ratfang is better than signet of the priory

is this secret strategies?

fang gang?

[clever belfry]

ratfang angle

[sullen dove]

ratfang angle

for both specs

[clever belfry]

said it before, ill say it again

ratfang angle

[subtle raven]

can u try and apply on a dummy

i swear this shit doesnt work

[warm crag]

ratfangle

[quiet breach]

fang gang

[still spear]

Thanks for the answers! I will spend the burst of power procs asap.

[sullen dove]

it like sometimes works and sometimes dont

but all it does is add like an extra 500k total dmg

idek why it applies to every target

[oblique trail]

@clever belfry

[sullen dove]

literal single target trinket

[sullen dove]

effectively a honey buzzer

[subtle raven]

i have it on heroic from a map delve

[sullen dove]

holy it popped off

[bold plank]

dawnthread or duskthread or writhing armor on wrist

[sullen dove]

sendin this shit to 665 rq

[subtle raven]

did ur attacks apply it or was it on use

[sullen dove]

attacks apply

[clever belfry]

ratfang angle

[sullen dove]

like 1 ww hit all of them

holy fangge

[subtle raven]

holy shit

my only hero trinket will be broken

[smoky vale]

fang yourself

[subtle raven]

D:

[sullen dove]

what the frick

[subtle raven]

dish

can u send a sim with fang

[sullen dove]

uh... i suppose...

are you unable to sim the fang yourself

[subtle raven]

it doesnt get applied for me

am i special

[tardy lark]

yes dear

[sullen dove]

the fang is a tempramental one

you must be worthy of the fang

[smoky vale]

wtf is a dish

[sullen dove]

you do not choose the ratfang the ratfang chooses you

[smoky vale]

hi ish

[sullen dove]

yeah but that makes sense

[smoky vale]

yarp

[subtle raven]

[oblique trail]

@clever belfry

[oblique trail]

AAAAA

Delete that

[coarse nest]

man i gotta find smug

thats nice

[final eagle]

sims says take cloak

[coarse nest]

aint no way

you pass up myth pacemaker??

cloak prob crafted?

[young swan]

do u already have myth pacemaker?

[final eagle]

665 one

[coarse nest]

oh hero track

yeah id take myth personally

[young swan]

im assuming ur cloak just sucks dick

get a new cloak and take myth pacemaker

[final eagle]

636 one xD

[coarse nest]

HELLO

xD

[young swan]

yeah maybe farm a new cloak

[final eagle]

and the fun part its 21 days into season and no fucking cloak drop

[coarse nest]

surely this nerve in my elbow will stop being a bitch so I can continue to spam dungeons 😄

[sullen dove]

ugh 10k to recraft both pieces...

[mossy fox]

worth

[sullen dove]

real

[coarse nest]

oh yeah do it

[sullen dove]

the crit mast dawnthread feels nice for colo arms keys tho...

[feral ivy]

is house of cards good in m+ or nah just stick to normal lvl pacemaker?

[sullen dove]

fury want both haste/mast duskthread

-50000 crit gg

[coarse nest]

just go haste/mastery/duskthread

and swap both specs freely

ez

[final eagle]

and the sims its a 678 trink and 658 craft gear

[sullen dove]

is dat dungeon slice?

[final eagle]

nope ST

[winter shoal]

2.5 dslice would be stinky

[sullen dove]

need to drop this fang breh

[clever belfry]

@young swan show vault

[young swan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1240468811270852619/1354127999611568190/image.png?ex=67e42979&is=67e2d7f9&hm=3eb3311a2a18fa9e5427f20bd3e36d33c072c92dfb7db6e1ea66cd95c6bd3253&

[final eagle]

jastor lol

[coarse nest]

bruh another one

[winter shoal]

HOLY

[coarse nest]

xD

classic

[young swan]

enjoy that

[sullen dove]

dam bro got himself as a stat on it

[young swan]

unfort my kee xan didnt roll leecher

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ehnkwV9pCgDBKC79QpDezh

needa go get my 2nd spark half

[smoky vale]

hi

[clever belfry]

ok

[oblique trail]

Zero mythic raid slots

Benched pov

[clever belfry]

@oblique trail log in andagoat needs

[oblique trail]

Im in bed broski

[clever belfry]

schlüssel

no

schlüssel andagoat

[oblique trail]

Yes

I am in the bed

[clever belfry]

i will link honey b lovely copypasta again

if u dont

[oblique trail]

Ok but you could've also just asked when I was talking with you literally 1 second ago

[graceful elk]

For those of you guys who switch back and forth from fury to arms do you have two sets of gear or no?

[clever belfry]

i was <undecided> then

[oblique trail]

I got a ring I swap around that's about it

[clever belfry]

haste mast are good on both

[oblique trail]

Jewelry can fix any stat issues easily

[clever belfry]

fix crit with a ring

tldr

@oblique trail she needs help

[graceful elk]

O ok I wasn’t sure cause u.gg said mastery was shit

For arms

[oblique trail]

I hope you acquire the aid you need, swiftly

[clever belfry]

googling closest bridge

[oblique trail]

Send the x and y coords after

Might need them

[clever belfry]

bro the globe is 3 dim

[oblique trail]

Don't follow this, just sim yourself for your personal situation

[oblique trail]

Sorry the z axis too

[clever belfry]

do u need polar and azimuthal angles?

[oblique trail]

Idk what that second one means but probably could be useful in a given situation

[clever belfry]

thats the angle how far "north" something is

phi

[sullen dove]

no blasphemite gaming???

rare xan tech??

[clever belfry]

xantager

[young swan]

sims worse

[clever belfry]

xannachter

lock n stalkussy 678

lock n stalkussy 678

[quiet breach]

YUHHHHHH just got a hero track wep from this +10 motherload

[tidal kindle]

@balmy shore what are you doing to my discord ui...

[forest owl]

in m+ if you had funhouse and pacemaker both same ilvl which would you pick? is there an obvious winner or just pick whatever

[queen linden]

Is noggenfogger still worth a damn? Sim has it doing 30k over my reverb trinket. Not a fan of the summon minion trinkets

[quiet breach]

do u guys think I should keep downgrading my keys back to +10 after timing them until I have most of the dungeons timed at +10?

[manic gulch]

so mechano is no longer our bis ?

[queen linden]

Correct

[manic gulch]

oof

very good news

fuck delve trinkets

only two chances per week to get them

[summer quail]

I picked mechano in vault last week. finding the rope(in minecraft)

[sullen dove]

i will NOT be clicking that green arrow in the top right

seen screenshots

man is it some ass

[tidal kindle]

I gave up pacemaker

[modest condor]

jackie doesnt work at discord anymore smh my head

[tidal kindle]

Two weels in a row

[tidal kindle]

Yah maybe if she did the UI wouldnt be so poor

[sullen dove]

tech companies when they have to change ui's every 2 years to justify them having jobs even when people like it the way it is already

[quiet breach]

can i add an enchant to a piece of gear in topgear?

[sullen dove]

yea there should be a section down there to pick enchants

[balmy shore]

i do not work there ! i do not know !!

[winged vine]

?

[tidal kindle]

My Ui wasnt this bad when you did work there all I'm saying

[queen linden]

??

[winged vine]

???

Just saw the message about it in the updates channel - disregard

[lean heart]

viscera angle?

[summer quail]

atleast i am not alone

[tidal kindle]

Bro i took tier shoulders over pacemaker this week

And then roster swap to put me in for myth rik

L after L

[forest owl]

how legit is dslice simming? it's telling me that frenzied enrage sims almost 200k better than powerful enrage

[mossy fox]

p sure that trinket is super stinky?

[clever path]

yo, hope im on the correct channel for this question. i enjoy slayer builds more but in m+ they appear to be performing less. are they performing less but still competitive? and is it still possible to push high keys w slayer? ty

[tidal kindle]

Cant believe you nerfed my mechano like this....

[modest condor]

do you even trinket buffs?

[gleaming crag]

0 myth track items equipped gotta wait till next week for tier gloves lol

[balmy shore]

isn't that the one u have to be below 35% for the thingie to proc

[gleaming crag]

but this is juice

[balmy shore]

or am i thinking of something else

[modest condor]

it does more if you're below 35%

[mossy fox]

arent those buffs already on latest

[modest condor]

yes

[lean heart]

i have mechanocore and energy drink rn both hero

[modest condor]

did you not see archi's screenshot?

[mossy fox]

i checked all trinkets again and it still stinks compared to my hero funhouse and energy drink

[gleaming crag]

just use heroic eye of kezan guys what are you doing smfh

[lean heart]

no it still proc above 35 but it does double dam when youre below 35

[clever belfry]

richard radio

[mossy fox]

so with threads and hateful trinket hard avoid the 35-80% hp range

[tepid cedar]

LOL the buffs to pally ST

[floral mantle]

champ noggenfogger simming higher than heroic pacemaker. surely this is bait?

[forest owl]

funhouse trinket is obviously bis, it has the word fun in it

[tepid cedar]

are on apr with us on ST now

par

this is on a timed 14 TOP jsut now

[torpid roost]

some WA's i got for Rampage highlight at 80 rage, but wowhead says 100? Is it better to RB to over 100 ?

[tidal kindle]

Reverend Ricardo Reverberation

[summer quail]

have you tried simming it as always being below 35%?

[mossy fox]

i have not

[brisk talon]

I knew I should've waited on reclear to upgrade my hero track mechano to 665

[sonic magnet]

with the current tier do you use the Proc from 4p right away or whats the priority

[left perch]

unban critcake btw

[clever belfry]

Richard R. Radio

[quiet breach]

yo i just realized

mister lock n stalk is goated

i got that from my 4 mythic dung quest

wtf

only realized when i was simming my gear

apparently its the 3rd best trinket on the list on the wowhead guide

how tf did i not know this

when do i use precision blasting and when do i use mass destruction?

[brisk talon]

lock n stalk is also pure single target so can be a little sim-baity

loses tons of value if you start adding in more targets

[quiet breach]

should i ever use mass destruction

[quiet breach]

also, does that mean i should use improved seaforium pacemaker in m+

[brisk talon]

Definitely use Seaforium in m+, but I also don't have a lock n stalk so Idk about the mass destruction answer. Just the way the trinket performs though it would be good on like, Sprocket and that's about it

[slim coral]

Ain’t no way

[brisk talon]

kind of the same thing with the Noggenfogger trinket

[slim coral]

I gotta use Mr Locke stock

[slim coral]

I have a heroic lock n stock it does about 120-200M in keys

[quiet breach]

are u saying lock n stock is good in keys?

[brisk talon]

There are much much better trinkets to use in keys, anything pure ST shouldn't be recommended

[slim coral]

I mean it seemed pretty good but it’s also hard to compare a proc effect vs just saw stats

[slim coral]

Lock n stock is aoe as well tho

[dire vigil]

I just fainted in Walmart reading about Mecha stonks down

[slim coral]

You just swap it to mass destruc

[winter shoal]

ass destruc sucks

stay precision

[slim coral]

It doesn’t suck

It pumps

[quiet breach]

if u had an equal ilvl lock n stock vs seaforium, which would u take in m+ and which would u take in raid @winter shoal @slim coral

[winter shoal]

sim

[quiet breach]

someone said lock n stock is sim bait

[slim coral]

Idk I’d have to sim mine

I use seaforium currently

[dire vigil]

Everything is sim bait this szn

[sudden tusk]

its good on pure single target

ill be going for house of cards for both specs over it