i am like 10% as fed as @clever belfry and @oblique trail now 👍
#fury
warm crag
smoky vale
you forgot @ebon junco
warm crag
liar liar pants on fire
smoky vale
fire on pants liar liar
warm crag
nah i only have 3% as much gear as tmy
edgy widget
I'd be pretty fed if I had a weapon 
modest condor
just loot one
warm crag
I'd be pretty fed if I had a weapon <:sad:230833782880600064>
offtopic but do you happen to know if the noggenfogger elixir add not appearing in details is also not being represented in logs?
junior gale
Craft a wep for a guaranteed wep drop from vault or M Stix
calm obsidian
what's the best race for us Fury's if you extremely wanna min/max
edgy widget
offtopic but do you happen to know if the noggenfogger elixir add not appearing ...
dunno
runic cypress
I'd be pretty fed if I had a weapon <:sad:230833782880600064>
Craft one 4head
edgy widget
I did! but I still need another 
runic cypress
Craft more
edgy widget
not even remotely
clever belfry
yeah brb, lemme exploit some sparks rq
atleast the men who got the exploit half spark and the half spark they gave everyone didnt get a new half spark this week.
earnest canyon
Don't hate the playa hate the game
I hate the game and the players equally
runic cypress
I hate the game and the players equally
You must be fun at partys
velvet obsidian
what's the best race for us Fury's if you extremely wanna min/max
Pretty sure gnomes are BiS or Nelves in M+ I think. Orcs are BiS for flavor and our warcries don't sound like garbage.
earnest canyon
You must be fun at partys
I hate parties
edgy widget
atleast the men who got the exploit half spark _and_ the half spark they gave ev...
fwiw, they didn't actually give it to everyone who exploited, only some of them 
velvet obsidian
Pretty sure it's on wow head guide though which is the best source
runic cypress
I hate parties
Truly a unique individual and not some sheeple
edgy widget
I hate parties
is it because you're not fun at them?
fading sky
Ngl his name aint funpitt
earnest canyon
is it because you're not fun at them?
It's because I'd rather be at home playing video games
marble schooner
yeah brb, lemme exploit some sparks rq
if you do, pls let blizz know you did so we get another spark for free
clever belfry
fwiw, they didn't actually give it to *everyone* who exploited, only some of the...
wonder why i italicized and :)
marble schooner
Pretty sure gnomes are BiS or Nelves in M+ I think. Orcs are BiS for flavor and ...
Void elves 
velvet obsidian
Wannabe blood elves. Point is play an Alli race and it's hard to choose wrong
earnest canyon
what kind of words would u call them
Sparkle outer space goat men
edgy widget
wonder why i italicized and :)
except I was referring to this part
the half spark they gave everyone
they didn't actually give the half spark to everyone who exploited the extra one, just the early birds
clever belfry
Sparkle outer space goat men
if i see a lfd male i cry
chilly fractal
exploit me a few while you are at it, Archi
spiral orbit
is noggenfogger only a st trink?
warm crag
oh i thought u said str sorry
winter shoal
Bro just wanted to flex 
warm crag
i think it technically gains up to 5 targets but its only an st trinket
warm crag
Bro just wanted to flex <:keks:936231610850897992>
idk if theres much point in flexing a trinket that i will never use
winter shoal
You already an amplifier enjoyer?
warm crag
like the only use case is sprocketmonger and im too afraid of the pirate dying
winter shoal
True
quiet breach
do all specs of monk give mystic touch or just WW?
modest condor
all
earnest canyon
if i see a lfd male i cry
is it because you were in love and one of them hurted you? 😦
clever belfry
no
https://wago.io/mjUY0y_hS important new weakaura for the noggenfogger trinket just dropped
warm crag
importing as we speak
celest sierra
11s and lower are not an issue lol I’m doing 12+
fair thistle
dk if y'all already discussed about it but
playing slayer on ToP, good or bad idea ?
celest sierra
what's the best race for us Fury's if you extremely wanna min/max
Void elf
sinful spoke
icl im kinda dripped out
earnest canyon
icl im kinda dripped out
lizard 🤢
winter shoal
icl im kinda dripped out
What sword is that
sour glacier
so did our rotation change much this season compared to last?
winter shoal
so did our rotation change much this season compared to last?
Yes, mostly from going RA -> AM
sinful spoke
What sword is that
sour glacier
ik we were also not to spam rampage and sometimes hold its use and use stacks of raging blow or bloodthirst to keep enrage up but now with 4 piece do we spam when avaialable
winter shoal
HOLY transmog the sword into itself?
winter shoal
ik we were also not to spam rampage and sometimes hold its use and use stacks of...
I don't really know what you mean by this but read the wowhead guide I linked
sinful spoke
since its 658 it turns into the blue version
fickle cedar
noggen goes crazy as outlaw 
modest condor
apparently it scales with some of their talents or something
clever belfry
tldr
it yoinks their attack speed buffs
nommies
(not supposed to be like that)
compact knot
it yoinks their attack speed buffs
this surely can be abused as prot
compact knot
ic
warm crag
its probably getting fixed
grim ore
when does the bloodbath % go to 85? mine only seems to go to 75, or am i missing something?
warm crag
reck, bloodcraze, tierset, your own crit chance
earnest shuttle
just got this boi, can someone explain me what's the best way to use it? keep it always as ST or move it to AOE?
or do I swap it between fights always?
ebon junco
you forgot <@205978162293768192>
???
spare steppe
or do I swap it between fights always?
swap whenever you need to
wind haven
this noxiv guy is cracked wtf
+15 TOP sacrificing to bait the Xav cleave and surviving it by using enraged regen and toggling to defensive stance 🔥
snow edge
Noxiv is a stronk unit
gleaming siren
still losing to schmidi on every pull
Spongie is ROLLING me
clever belfry
Spongie is ROLLING me
modest condor
yeah pressing defensives is something next level
shush most warriors dont know how to do that
clever belfry
tbf fury warriors get trained to not press buttons cause they live anything in heroic raid / +10s without doing so
🤷♂️
big passive living
sour frigate
will to live
elfin belfry
yeah pressing defensives is something next level
Man, I've got to try that some time.
Sounds pretty op.
bitter palm
buff pwar
neat gazelle
whats the quickest way to proc thunder blast?
compact knot
whats the quickest way to proc thunder blast?
avatar
compact knot
spam bloodthirst
neat gazelle
oh sweet thank you!
compact knot
and pray
bitter palm
tbf fury warriors get trained to not press buttons cause they live anything in h...
wdym i only have 10.5m hp 10% passive dr 20% magic dr on a 25s cd 30% dr while full healing myself every 3 seconds on a 2 min cd. 30% heal every 25s that resets on kill
neat gazelle
is bt more imrporat than raging blow?
bitter palm
and also like 100k passive healing
compact knot
as thane and in aoe i believe so
marble schooner
oh they get a tag for resilience
bitter palm
<:clueless:1099922541923024997> he doesnt know
3.5m overalls 
marble schooner
does anyone know if I drop the key level to 11 and brick it
does it stay at 11 as well?
sly crane
no
marble schooner
or is it just for 12->11
warm crag
demolish ahead of revenge
only?
clever belfry
3.5m overalls <:clueless:1099922541923024997>
he doesnt know )))
bitter palm
)
dense elbow
Good job, 3.5m DPS overall is big numbers
Keep it up champ!
We will cheer you on!
It is only upwards from here on!
fringe anchor
what is a respectable overall for fury in the big pull dungeons?
bitter palm
<:Hydrate:690891013350228028>
Good job, 3.5m DPS overall is big numbers
ty i need to press revenge more
to get 4 mil as a tank then complain when they nerf my weak aoe by 5%
willow cradle
Does anyone know why the SimCraft page for Fury list's war machine demise as a massive rage gain contributor? Isn't that the 5 rage you gain for killing something?
kind bolt
just me or do we suck in big m+ pulls compared to other classes
queen panther
just me or do we suck in big m+ pulls compared to other classes
Suuuure do
frank dawn
there is no dopamine to be had for fury in M+
you kill bosses and do good, but not great, overall dam
maaaaybe on the high end our sustained damage ticks back up
restive peak
I get tons of dopamine although the arms colossus dopamine is also climbing
verbal dragon
coming back to the game after stopping mid s1 is thane or slayer better in m+
assuming thane
restive peak
Thane by a lot
quiet geyser
Does anyone know why the SimCraft page for Fury list's war machine demise as a m...
war machine also makes your autos generate more rage
willow cradle
war machine also makes your autos generate more rage
Only 20% no? It doesnt make sense for it to generate more then the autos themselves
quiet geyser
is that a M+ setting? probably just assumes you're getting killing blows all the time
quiet geyser
no idea, then ,ya seems kinda fucked lol
hardy cargo
I dont know if this is before war machine adds to it or not but autos generate 9 for mh and 3 for offhand or smth similar every 2-3s so that x1.2 on top of another 100% from reck when its up kinda owns
static rock
anybody got a reference for how much damage you should be doing in say a 10 priory?
junior gale
4
fair thistle
I was sweating buckets on last boss jfc
its legit the less harder one imo
earnest canyon
anybody got a reference for how much damage you should be doing in say a 10 prio...
at least 6 dmg, but not more than 20 million
static rock
at least 6 dmg, but not more than 20 million
-_-
earnest canyon
ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer
oblique trail
anybody got a reference for how much damage you should be doing in say a 10 prio...
At least 3 million if you're somewhat competent, but there is no actual answer
static rock
so 3.05m with a wipe is fine?
oblique trail
Do the dungeon, see how much damage you do, keep doing the dungeon and see if doing different pulls or using your CDs differently will massively affect it or not
Sure if you timed the key
earnest canyon
so 3.05m with a wipe is fine?
for your group or banezi's group that might be fine....but im just happy to time the key
fair thistle
i had 3 exactly on a 12 priory with 1 wipe
and i think that's pretty decent
though on dungeons like ToP i'm below like averagely around 2.6
marble schooner
its legit the less harder one imo
yeah but I think bosses that need you to keep eyes open are the hardest when you are anxious
elder spindle
With the thane M+ build I can take whirwind off my bars, right?
static rock
With the thane M+ build I can take whirwind off my bars, right?
yup, never touch it
gilded pawn
https://www.simulationcraft.org/reports/TWW2_Raid.html
i asked in the simc discord for you
however i dont think its affecting the results
oblique trail
It does slightly, giving more rampages than intended
gilded pawn
well its 5k rage
oblique trail
But it's about a 0.9-1% difference
gilded pawn
if its actually giving 5k rage it would be rampaging every gcd
oblique trail
The 5k rage is also overflowing by approx 4k
So a lot of it is just wasted
There are just a lot of conditionals that take precedence over spending said rage, which is why the rage is wasted by that much
If you asked it to rampage the moment it could, it'd very likely be more than just a 1% difference
quiet breach
i am confused, what is it telling me here?
it wants me to cast whirlwind badly 90% of the time or higher?
that doesnt make sense
slim coral
Idk that site is jank
quiet breach
anyone wanna look at my logs and see if they see anything I could improve on? character name is Iskus
quiet prawn
Which cloak do people use for duskthread crafting? The link in embelishments faq leads to an old item and I don't see it in my blacksmith recipes tab
sour frigate
Cloak is tailoring recipe
quiet prawn
oh that makes more sense
sour frigate
Consecrated cloak
quiet prawn
Would there be a big difference if I crafted wrist and belt instead of wrist and clock? I don't know how to sim that
sour frigate
U should craft a weapon if u don't have myth track one
Otherwise belt is more stats
clever path
Would there be a big difference if I crafted wrist and belt instead of wrist and...
wrist and cloak are recommended only when you have full 678 gear cause then you want the lower ilvl crafted pieces on the low budget slots
sour frigate
Wrist and cloak are the lowest
clever path
don't look at bis lists
sour frigate
wrist and cloak are recommended only when you have full 678 gear cause then you ...
^
quiet prawn
Ah thanks a ton
earnest canyon
Wrist and cloak are the lowest
I translated your name in google and yikes
sour frigate
I translated your name in google and yikes
What does it say
earnest canyon
What does it say
"Bumlover"
earnest canyon
idk man, I dont run google
dry spade
Would fury thane be troll in raid?
earnest canyon
No I play it on every boss....its way more fun than slayer
covert coyote
ive seen some ppl running it on stix
earnest canyon
well I play slayer on sprocksocket dickmonger
dry spade
Yeah I gotta say I dislike slayer
earnest canyon
play what you enjoy, its a game you pay money for
earnest canyon
My brain enjoys pressing thunderclap
then play that
undone flower
I translated your name in google and yikes
I think his name is just a wordplay when you read it Vibo-Slav
earnest canyon
I think his name is just a wordplay when you read it Vibo-Slav
OR....I just made something up as I am a 🤡
undone flower
I sometime wish clowns were real tbh
earnest canyon
They are, and I am terrified of them
Why do you need shoes that large?
Why do you paint your face like that?
Why does your nose honk
summer quail
I sometime wish clowns were real tbh
Plenty of clowns in this discord
undone flower
Have you actually saw a real clown once ? Not talking about a dude in a costume.
They don’t exist
earnest canyon
Yeah, at the circus
With elephants
I think that is illegal now cos its cruelty to the animals
undone flower
Real clowns are cruel
earnest canyon
Im a real clown, but not on purpose....I am trying my best
undone flower
Feet pic or fake
winter shoal
earnest canyon
oblique trail
?
undone flower
<:Whuh:1072540013033697292>
It’s to see if he has the clown shoes on
winter shoal
Keep the feet pics in the dms fellas
Maybe send em to me too while you're at it sheeeee
earnest canyon
I always forget people are into feet
earnest canyon
Dont worry I wont
undone flower
I don’t even know what they find to feets
remote haven
My Ravager Weakaura tells my Ravager is ready a few seconds before it is really ready. Anyone else experiencing this or is there a fix?
earnest canyon
My Ravager Weakaura tells my Ravager is ready a few seconds before it is really ...
I would change the WA....doesnt happen to me
winter shoal
My Ravager Weakaura tells my Ravager is ready a few seconds before it is really ...
It's from the M+ affix
It interacts weirdly with AM cdr
verbal wing
are slayer fury warriors rolling 4set in pvp
remote haven
Ah alright so its gone next week i can live with that. The weak aura is correct i checked it
earnest canyon
It's from the M+ affix
oh really? Why dont I get that then?
verbal wing
i did
oblique trail
Shrug
marble schooner
officially gaming
remote haven
oh really? Why dont I get that then?
Maybe you didnt realize cause its just a few seconds?
oblique trail
ok you asked and waited less than a minute before asking in here
winter shoal
oh really? Why dont I get that then?
Either doing keys without the affix or just built diff?
earnest canyon
Maybe you didnt realize cause its just a few seconds?
I am pretty slow tbh, so you are probably right
winter shoal
It's a weakauras thing, not a game thing (I think)
oblique trail
It is
winter shoal
It's happened since last season but nobody really ran AM last season
oblique trail
If you look on your actionbar, Ravager still counts down properly, while it's ready on your WA
It was an issue last season too
Because of MfE
winter shoal
Slayer in keys 🤮
winter shoal
Real
remote haven
yes thats what i was experiencing exactly well its just a few seconds so its fine probably. I just kinda wasnt sure i was going insane 😄
winter shoal
Slayer + OF for like 2 weeks was kinda nice
And then the heroic week incident happened
modest condor
more like thane got like a 9% buff to its st
modest condor
yeah but that's what made us switch to thane in keys
fiery harbor
officially gaming
yo congratz
marble schooner
yo congratz
thanks man 🙂
earnest canyon
thanks man 🙂
completely missed that.....3k is huge on any class, congrats buddy
marble schooner
completely missed that.....3k is huge on any class, congrats buddy
ty, I always hard stop at 3k but this is the first time ive gotten 3k not in the last 3 weeks of the season so ill try to see how high i can get
earnest canyon
ty, I always hard stop at 3k but this is the first time ive gotten 3k not in the...
go for it man....I have never been 3k.....if I get over 2k im happy, 2.5k is amazing, the rest is a bonus....but you should go for it if you enjoy it
marble schooner
I think this is a good season for trying, blizz has been very good at balancing keys for a change
earnest canyon
i really hate M+ but im hating it less than usual, so thats a good change overall fo rme 🤣
think im 2.6k rn
marble schooner
u can for sure get 3k then, got the whole season ahead
earnest canyon
I just dont really enjoy M+ sadly, the time pressure really pisses me off
delves are ideal
marble schooner
ah yeah the time thing is not for everyone for sure
earnest canyon
if im in a delve ive usually got some youtube content on or something on one monitor, work on another, work call comes in, and I can just afk the delve for 20mins
doesnt affect anyone, but in M+ you brick the key
willow cradle
i asked in the simc discord for you
Thanks!
fallen arrow
I'm noticing this too. my dps drops with BIS weapon, am i missing something?
modest condor
make sure there's not a yellow warning in the sim
fallen arrow
also on dummies
modest condor
imagine not having meadery neck yet
clever path
tidal kindle
Some of us don't have to imagine
wanton mirage
I just noticed the socket making items from vault vendor is called S.A.D
sudden tusk
Some of us don't have to imagine
garm from arc
slim grotto
if you get PI from 2 diff priest does it brick your logs?
fiery edge
yo which profession should i prio first?
junior gale
if you get PI from 2 diff priest does it brick your logs?
as long as you dont get multiple PIs in under 2 minutes your fine if its different priests
tidal kindle
from lost ark?
good times
slim grotto
as long as you dont get multiple PIs in under 2 minutes your fine if its differe...
It was a pug and they were all just randomly juicing me. Is there no way to recover the logs from this?
tidal kindle
<:FingerGuns:1194196678316675153> good times
Game dying faster than me on painsmith
clever path
you still gaming LA?
clever path
ah fair enough
sinful spoke
how to steal other ppls items
gilded pawn
what if both are soulbound
sinful spoke
they are
chilly fractal
and no meadery neck doesn't exist <:deadge:900279927138578432>
Sounds like you’re not done
quiet breach
if you get PI from 2 diff priest does it brick your logs?
wym brick your logs
latent hedge
If you get a certain number of PIs it’ll invalidate the log
dense fulcrum
yooo letsgo magetower set unlocked :DD https://prnt.sc/jgz-HmbOM7yp
stone merlin
yo which profession should i prio first?
I know nothing about crafting but mining and herbalism are nice to farm for some gold
bleak tundra
Does any1 here have a mythic sprocket kill PoV?
eternal sundial
try youtube
bitter palm
Does any1 here have a mythic sprocket kill PoV?
there are quite a few povs on youtube
bleak tundra
Thanks 😄
fallen arrow
so how da hella re you supposed to use Best-in-slots if it shares cooldown with trinkets
smoky vale
on next reck after cds
fallen arrow
oh whoops, meant for arms, clicked on wrong channel
hardy bluff
on cs after cds
warm crag
on cs after cds
Sim just sends it on CD
earnest canyon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9PONEGOhkE
both those warrs be pumping, nice
neat coral
is there a reason the updated wow head talent tree is different to the dps faq one. Mainly on thunderous roar vs spear, which is better for m+
lapis eagle
anyway to get greatsword of the inferno transmog ?🤔
radiant plank
no
jade cipher
guys is there a chance for tuning to give fury a tad more aoe?
radiant plank
no
earnest canyon
guys is there a chance for tuning to give fury a tad more aoe?
Sure....also next weeks winning numbers are 694201
jade cipher
i play both arms and fury, i stick to fury but arms is doing more without losing much
single target is also competetivly close
jade cipher
outlaw rouges always cried a lot over hitting only 8. now we hitting 5 strictly
earnest canyon
yes
it says on the tooltip
idk what your point is
arms is better on big aoe, fury is better in smaller packs and funnelling/ST
jade cipher
Thats common knowledge tho. i am talking about having options as fury
like odyns fury
earnest canyon
you can spec that if you enjoy it
jade cipher
spec should have talent options
jade cipher
no, you lose too much by speccing inot that
jade cipher
odyns fury right now is too weak,
why are you showing hostility towards me when i'm here for a friendly discussion about talent tree
jade cipher
its a discord channel, if you need a break, just take it mate
radiant plank
Talent trees suck massive donkey dick on both sspecs
jade cipher
right now odyns fury does 0 damage. and its not even about Dps. there should be a gain to it. if i lose single target talents i should be able to do more overall right? its not the case now
earnest canyon
I always thought it must be shit to be a class dev as you design these massive trees with all this options, and the community just min maxes as always
so you are either ST spec or AoE spec and none of your work matters
jade cipher
i think the only real change you can make as fury in M+ is between 2 enrage options
thats about it
jade cipher
I always thought it must be shit to be a class dev as you design these massive t...
Not true, even last season at top M+ there were people playing double odyns, and some playing RA with Longer recklessness
earnest canyon
Not true, even last season at top M+ there were people playing double odyns, and...
thats 2 options....idk how long you played for, but we went from talent trees 20 years ago, to bigger trees, to just one option out of three each 10 levels or so, back to massive trees again
I feel most of the talent tree stuff should just be baked into most specs
It also hurts newer players that dont check wowhead/icy veins and pick the cookie cutter spec
jade cipher
Well the problem is not min maxing dps its that something although you can take them togheter dont work togheter
even if you turn off your details, playing roar with spear or playing onslaught with some other talents feel clunky
and if you get hang of it its still outdamaged heavily by builds pressing less buttons
so whats the point
That was my point about odyns fury, i spec into a button to do more aoe and i end up doing less aoe
jade cipher
and new titans torment will simply be scratched
earnest canyon
it was warrior wake of ashes
jade cipher
cant put it into any build
fading sky
prob not
not unless BT became way stronger than RB
i guess would be the only chance
bitter palm
Talent trees suck massive donkey dick on both sspecs
arms gives options at least
jade cipher
RB is too strong
bitter palm
soa vs dn for example
fading sky
would i prefer a 5% aura nerf
fading sky
and buff to some roar and shit
bitter palm
nah fuck roar idgaf
just move cap to 8
and spec is fixed forever
keep it capped to 8 who gives a shit a lot of specs are
jade cipher
or reduce damage of lightning strike and make it hit every target thunderblast does
and to do 3x damage if it only hits 1 target
jade cipher
yeah but if they increase our cap with same damage numbers, hitting 8 targets with this rampage and Bloodthirst under 35% damage
we would be too strong i think
bitter palm
ye you would be on par with sub rogue and outlaw
bitter palm
yeah but if they increase our cap with same damage numbers, hitting 8 targets wi...
reduce from 45% to 40% or 35
it has its own tuning knob
or alternatively increase it and keep the cap
jade cipher
or odyns fury baseline with auto enrage and whirlwind. and give other talents there tbh
keen dove
make whirlwind a 1 minute cooldown give our spells to 8 target cleave at %100 damage
jade cipher
odyns fury with titanc rage is so good for us right now but not as talent
bitter palm
for odyns fury to be an actual part of the spec u need to get rid of avatar
way too many cds
i am all for it tho
avatar is so fucking ase
jade cipher
idk , i feel like pressing it on aoe right now feels decent, i like it
bitter palm
ass
jade cipher
because you can pair it with some sort of avatar everytime
clever belfry
delete avatar
clever belfry
any cd that just reads "do x% more damage" should be removed from the game
jade cipher
avatar is the laziest design , agreed
keen dove
peak design is combustion
clever belfry
Reck is honestly good design
however we generate way too much rage baseline so ramp cant fuck
So it doesn't feel impactful
mossy fox
yeah but if they increase our cap with same damage numbers, hitting 8 targets wi...
idk i lose on 5 targets often in m+ as fury compared to classes that aren't hardcapped like us
clever belfry
idk i lose on 5 targets often in m+ as fury compared to classes that aren't hard...
bfa conundrum
bitter palm
also true
mossy fox
i honestly dont believe 8 target meat cleaver will be an issue balance wise
radiant plank
uncap meatcleaver but only rampage and BT benefit from it
bitter palm
and make ss passive but only ms and execute cleave
clever belfry
ill be honest
all 3 hero trees for dps are bad
earnest canyon
remove slayer
agree, I hate it
clever belfry
and class would be better of without them
fair thistle
when i see ppl on 1st pull having 40% dps more than me 😹
clever belfry
how is demolish real
jade cipher
next thing i say is only personal preference, but fyrakk fury was beatiful for me, loved every second of it
bitter palm
bro demolish
clever belfry
Its just fyralath but worse and more often
radiant plank
Thane woulda gone so hard for Arms
mossy fox
demo getting cancelled from target stepping 1 pixel out of range has to be fixed at the very least
rather not have it at all but holy shit
that's infuriating
radiant plank
should be shockwave type ability
jade cipher
bro i couldnt cast my demolish one time on ipa boss on cinderbrew
radiant plank
never a targetted one
clever belfry
bro i couldnt cast my demolish one time on ipa boss on cinderbrew
that's when u demo the adds
burnt kelp
demolish is fist of fury
but release fist of fury
everyone told blizzard it sucked shit so they changed it
fair thistle
why don't they make demolish castable while moving ?
burnt kelp
but somehow 10 years later they give it to warrior
fair thistle
even with that it wouldn't be that strong
jade cipher
i play ret, its annoying how easy it is to do damage with it
i know wow should have such classes but come one . cant all class designs be lazy
bitter palm
doesn't require a target
has the same channel, slows you instead
only 3rd hit
shows hitbox during the channel
doesn't fuck up your auto attack timer
cooler, more visual animation
mossy fox
autoattack timer is also super annoying ye
jade cipher
i think there should be a reward to skill. its fading now, you do perfect rotationa and do same damage as otehr class face smashing
its doesnt feel good
mossy fox
like ok im at 10 rage and autoattack is like a whole sec away, aintnoway im waiting for that auto before casting demo
fair thistle
if you dps greatly while cutting spells and dodging everything
mossy fox
demo finishes and then i afk
fair thistle
this is skill enough
mossy fox
🙂
bitter palm
demo should be 1 big hit
burnt kelp
but yes fist of fury used to stun the targets
so they wouldn't move out of your fucking burst
bitter palm
it slows u while channeling and shows u the range
burnt kelp
so demolish's design is actually waaaayyyyyy worse than fist of fury
keen dove
you are a basic man with a long sword in a fantasy mmorpg
ofc everything is gonna be simple
and basic
fading sky
Fr demolish is not horrid
burnt kelp
there's no reason for it to self root and no reason for it to break the moment the mob takes 1 step away from you
rotund ginkgo
guys
i ran 1 floodgate on my shammy and dropped the pacemaker + avoidance chest
reroll angle
fading sky
there's no reason for it to self root and no reason for it to break the moment t...
There is
Flavor
forest owl
first delvers map on dk alt
fading sky
Pretty certain its not that good ngl
Add can die. Doesnt show up on details or logs yet
pulsar mason
Saccager 
pulsar mason
What language is it out of curiosity?
indigo sigil
french
fading sky
Sacre bleu
indigo sigil
cordon bleu
earnest canyon
french is a dying language
fading sky
Cant c how french is dieng, when an entire country speaks it
pulsar mason
Ohhh, frappe mortelle 
fading sky
- some african ones?
indigo sigil
@fading sky u hate fench langage ?
indigo sigil
Ohhh, frappe mortelle <:keks:936231610850897992> <:Arms:592471950278787080>
ohhh yeahhhh
earnest canyon
Cant c how french is dieng, when an entire country speaks it
Not many other countries do though.....unlike english or chinese
fading sky
Sadly english danish norwegian and some german is what i can manage
indigo sigil
Id wish i could speak it
Oh ok i see but french is very complex
fading sky
Not more than other languages
fading sky
German has 4?
earnest canyon
everything just seems easier in english and more succint
indigo sigil
sincerely? if our conjugation is really hard
fading sky
Cant rememvrr mby 3
earnest canyon
german has 3
fading sky
Anyways danish is worse
earnest canyon
you can look at wow tooltips of items and the french or german is like 3 lines long
danish isnt a language
indigo sigil
but french is so sex german is very not sex
fading sky
And dumb tbh. Must be horrid to learn as a foreinger
earnest canyon
indigo sigil
When a German speaks, it sounds like he's insulting
earnest canyon
holy crap the quality on that video is bad
earnest canyon
no thats italian
indigo sigil
no bro
earnest canyon
yes
earnest canyon
Hackepeter 🤢
indigo sigil
I can't let you say that French cuisine beats all the others and yet I love Japanese cuisine
fading sky
Fries with curry wurst un curry ketchup
Haha
Id 100% take italian ngl
Same with wine
indigo sigil
come to my house so I can make you a pot-au-feu worthy of this world
earnest canyon
and not forgetting the best bread in the world
LE BAGUETTE
indigo sigil
fading sky
Gelato
indigo sigil
fading sky
But ill take 1 of each please
indigo sigil
gg go my neck now
haughty wadi
finalllyyyyy
propre
rotund ginkgo
demo finishes and then i afk
u gotta play fury and sandbag
so they buff our aoe
and by sandbag i mean just play regularly
cuz we suck
fading sky
Not in st parts of dungos
Big slap
Havent triee above 10s though so mby theres a big dropoff
gleaming siren
finalllyyyyy
4596 force!
indigo sigil
4596 force!
warm crag
finalllyyyyy
Stimulateur cardiaque improvisé à l'hydroglycérine
indigo sigil
make fun bande de sacripants anglais ! :p
low folio
anyone with house of cards have the uptime of the trinket buff inside of a key? i got signet and dont have house of cards. just curious how much less trinket time i have, since its not only longer cd but also waiting for cds to line up
low folio
shorter duration but i can do that math
summer quail
cuz we suck
Noxiv doing a world first key already made sure we don't get buffed
rotund ginkgo
i cba having keys bricked cuz ppl moan at overalls
and leave mid key
14 ML timer is totally fine priest says "idk dam is bad" dies to a dot and leaves
fading sky
Has that happened?
fading sky
Kek
dense elbow
That is actually so common I don't even bat an eye at it anymore
lyric panther
execute sim, should this not be doing BT > Rampage > RB > BT? Instead of the double RB. Was just comparing my 5 mins on a 0% target dummy vs an execute sim and saw it has way more RB than BT. Looking through the list it sometimes misses available BTs for more RB when it doesn't seem to make sense, no Brutal Finish up.
vs
haughty wadi
hi, infos about why everyone play with that skill and not the one on the right ?
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/b2E1gNYSE98MSdRXA64n3C
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ctzajhts9rsh8mj4VzRN9e
the reason why im asking
last lichen
ur simming ST for a build used in m+?
Anger Managment is taken so you can use CDs on nearly every pack instead of doing a lil more dmg on 1/2 packs
haughty wadi
ur simming ST for a build used in m+?
wintry shuttle
Anger management is gonna sim lower in dungeon slice because of downtime between packs i would assume
haughty wadi
Anger Managment is taken so you can use CDs on nearly every pack instead of doin...
okayy
so dungeon slice is a beginner way to sim ^^ ?
wintry shuttle
I would just 1t 5m and 5t 1m and then find a middle ground
haughty wadi
i see, 100k more dps on 5 targ 1min
with the recommanded talents
okay dungeron slice isnt being realistic
lyric panther
I think maybe the APL is only suggesting Vicous Contempt bloodthirsts if you also have 2 stacks of bloodcraze, then bloodthirst at 4 stacks BC or 85% crit, then RB, then Bloodthirst. So no condition for <35% hp with VC but 0 or 1 bloodcraze, just uses the base bloodthirst action priority which is below RB. But on the wowhead guide I'd been following step 10 puts BT above RB during Vicious Contempt regardless of BC stacks.
So its difference between RB + BT being almost 1 for 1 in execute (minus the extra BTs during Brutal Finish) vs ~2 RBs for every BT in execute on the sim.
chrome relic
W
fading sky
Good
summer quail
Good. Kinda looks like christopher walken
frozen marten
I’ve got a fever. And the only prescription. Is more rampage.
eternal sundial
store set innit
summer quail
Is it? I have no clue when it comes to tmog. I just wear things
gentle walrus
Yeah, it’s the new one they just put up.
fading sky
Its 2 tokens hmm ill wait for sale
Im not allowed to use real cash ( by myself) slippery slope
warm crag
I think maybe the APL is only suggesting Vicous Contempt bloodthirsts if you als...
wowhead priority is a simplified version of the APL
gleaming siren
wowhead priority is a simplified version of the APL
short igloo
do we prio bloodthirst in execute ( 35% hp) in both aoe and st?
eager thorn
Yes
short igloo
ty!
loud patrol
good or not ?
Is that set in game now?
lyric panther
its £19 on shop, heavenly regalia pack
loud patrol
Ofc it’s a shop item 😅
wise solar
Sad 5 target cap noises?
burnt kelp
Didn't know evoker was chill like that
summer quail
evoker gonna be giga next reset
wise solar
Fury is very fun now, giga good prio dmg, I really like that, but they should increase 5 target cap, thats all 🙂
(ofc in my opinion, I am not smart, I am a warrior)
forest owl
Fury is very fun now, giga good prio dmg, I really like that, but they should in...
better watch, it's a sin to suggest fury be good at more than 1 thing in this discord lol
wise solar
kekw 😄
fading sky
(ofc in my opinion, I am not smart, I am a warrior)
Then we would not be prio dmg though
fading sky
Then we would just be dmg
burnt kelp
it's not even warrior
mage is the only class allowed to be good at everything in the game, you better remember it
fading sky
Rogue
wise solar
Then we would not be prio dmg though
This was the last boss DMG.
Evoker is so much better in AOE, same ST as our dmg and it will get a buff 😄 I don't even ask for buff, cuz I think we are gucci, just the target cap hurts.
summer quail
This was the last boss DMG.
Evoker is so much better in AOE, same ST as our dmg ...
i genuinely think devoker is only getting buffed so people will not play aug
wise solar
I support killing that spec 😉 😄
solemn plover
wowhead priority is a simplified version of the APL
agree
solemn plover
Blue Spongie
red spongie
restive peak
This was the last boss DMG.
Evoker is so much better in AOE, same ST as our dmg ...
You should not be this close to a dev evoker in 5T+ST
He's playing better than you, full stop. Sorry
Maybe after the buffs Tues, but not currently
wise solar
I just checked top logs, same dmg as me on ST, what do you mean?
I mean, I can agree, that I am not the best warrior, don't missunderstand me.
But 1.9 is not that bad in Thane I guess.
restive peak
Logs for M+ are not real, and dev is not as strong on ST as us in M+ builds currently
They're approx 200k behind
wise solar
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4Y329eqKRJno9yQbHb7pDv
According to sim, I did a great job.
wise solar
But same boss?
restive peak
No I don't have a log of that fight w Qb, ST is ST, if anything they're better at any mobility fight than us
And that's the 2nd boss in priory
onyx isle
Cool
wise solar
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/r964bRunG71PcJLrCEMatg
vs
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4Y329eqKRJno9yQbHb7pDv
I don't get your point 😄
restive peak
1 why is it 4m
2 sims are for gear decisions, they're not accurate to real world fights
wise solar
Because the kill took 4 mins, no bl
restive peak
3 Your complaint was that dev is better in ST and 5T, and you're wrong
I think you're doing your best to skew data to feel better about it, but clearly you're not interested in the truth
wise solar
3 Your complaint was that dev is better in ST and 5T, and you're wrong
Nope 🙂 I said Deva is better in huge AOE and ST does almost the same as me 🙂
restive peak
We have the highest prio/boss dam in M+ currently of any spec for ST
Dev is capped very close to us, and absolutely should lose to you on overall every key this season
Boomie? Ret? Lock? Hunter? Sure, they're way ahead on overall
But dev is a weird hill to die on because you lost a key to one who quite clearly played better
wise solar
But bro, it doesnt worth an argument, we warriors must stick together, apes strong together mate ❤️
wise solar
Dev is capped very close to us, and absolutely should lose to you on overall eve...
You can also exlclude PI runs, they are still higher than us
summer quail
Yeah we're super strong this season
lmao repeat of yesterday
wise solar
Again:
You can also exlclude PI runs, they are still higher than us
3.66 million TOP deva DPS without PI
3.10 million TOP fury DPS without PI
restive peak
So you made the comment about 5T and then linked an ST boss in your initial 2 posts
wise solar
But as I said it is okey, but we can't deny statistics
restive peak
If you lost on a 5T pull or ST fight to a dev, you are playing poorly
If you lost overall on 1 of the huge pull dungeons as fury, you did what you're supposed to, as long as you outdmged then on bosses and prio mobs
wise solar
If you lost on a 5T pull or ST fight to a dev, you are playing poorly
In Cinderbrew there are a very few 5T pull mate, I don't get your point
restive peak
So 1 of 8 dungeons you didn't win uncapped pulls and that means we're weak
I'm gonna change my name to "Please refer to S2/S4 fire mage in DF" because everytime someone does this
It highlights they don't understand the damage profile requirements of the content they play, or the damage profile of what they play
winter fossil
I can't remember a dev evoker beating me in a key...
Even when they are better geared
restive peak
If you want to win overall, go arms. If you want to do prio/ST, go fury. If you want to win at everything always, go play a mage.
Chain pulling is enabled by prio targets dying effectively, bosses dying effectively decreases death risk and improves overall dungeon time
wise solar
Nvm I let it go, I think you are wrong, you think I am wrong.
And I feel like you are talking about something else, and didn't get my point.
restive peak
I think you posted a 5T complaint and then ST fight you lost, and then later tried to change to "WELL I CARE ABOUT OVERALL"
wise solar
Lets not flood chat with pointless arguments then 🙂
restive peak
So goalpost moving negates a lot of points, you're correct, you're still wrong on the point you posted.
onyx isle
I wonder who this is more embarassing for. It's a tough call.
wise solar
I think you posted a 5T complaint and then ST fight you lost, and then later tri...
I never posted 5 target, what are you talking about?
burnt kelp
I'm just impressed by the evokar damage tbh
all the evokers I played with didn't do so good
wise solar
Yeah, he is my friend, really good player 🙂
restive peak
Evokers have a different dmg profile than fury does
And they did need the fixes they're receiving
We don't need anything except to not be nerfed
wise solar
Mate, the first picture is not about 5target fight 🙂
Its the overall dmg of the dungeon 😄
I said, 5 target cap is limiting us, you missunderstood me 🙂
restive peak
Our 5 target cap is exactly what makes sense for our damage profile
Remove our cap = nerf our ST drastically = we become useless anyway
wise solar
Okey, then finally can we agree, that we are not on the same page in this topic and close it?
restive peak
Don't nerf our ST and remove our cap = we are so giga busted it isn't even funny, and would be stupid
I think you losing ST to a dev evoker and posting "same ST as our dmg" is wrong
So no, not really, but we can certainly close the topic.
wise solar
I didn't loose btw... 😄
restive peak
In fact I don't think it, I know it.
wise solar
In fact I don't think it, I know it.
Yeah, I am sure about it 😉
restive peak
The gap is minimal, there is improvement you can make clearly, you just don't like it.
But good luck with the attitude.
onyx isle
attitude
wise solar
But good luck with the attitude.
Thanks mate, I think I gave you the respect all along, didn't flame you, didn't comment your performance, I just sent you statistic, sims, etc...
I don't see anything bad about my attitude. 🙂
restive peak
It's always so interesting; if you saw a mage complaining because arcane can't compete you'd tell him to go fire or frost and stfu because they're strong. If you want to win overall and remove the cap, learn arms. And then you'll have the damage profile you're upset about not having. But the constant crying about fury being weak is annoying, and wrong.
wise solar
And I am sorry if you feel like that way
wise solar
It's always so interesting; if you saw a mage complaining because arcane can't c...
Who said it is weak lol? 😄
Your points are wrong and made up...
I never said that...
I said we are gucci, I really like everything, except the 5 target cap, thats all lol...
restive peak
We are insanely, insanely good at what our profile does, and it's very good for M+ and useful. And arms is extremely good at what it does, and useful for a different comp. Complaining about dev buffs is ridiculous, they needed them, dev is very mid at everything except direct ST in direct ST spec
wise solar
You are arguing with your own thoughts...
onyx isle
You are arguing with your own thoughts...
Yes
wise solar
I mean, you can continue to argue with your own statements and say that I told those, but thats not true 🥲
Whatever you said, you just twisted my words and added non-existent things.
Either you're deliberately trying to misunderstand what I'm saying just to prove how smart you are and how right you are, but unfortunately, you'll never win an argument that way.
In any case, I still maintain that on large pulls, our OVERALL DMG is quite lacking due to the target cap. But despite all that, I really like what they've done with the Fury Warrior, and it feels great to play.
vagrant imp
You cant match your sims dps anyway so quit crying and go take a nappy.
winter fossil
I do understand your point about buffing a class that is already better "numbers wise"
But nothing to complain about tbh, warriors are in a very good spot right now in terms of raid or M+
The damage profile is great
burnt kelp
who are you saying that to?
restive peak
Yeah we don't even lose big pulls on higher keys, but again, sure my man. Dev evokers are wild.
winter fossil
Yeah we don't even lose big pulls on higher keys, but again, sure my man. Dev ev...
100%
some classes burst more
But warrior sustained AOE is great
wise solar
Yeah we don't even lose big pulls on higher keys, but again, sure my man. Dev ev...
Okey, I believe you 🙂
restive peak
Once we get into the big pulls where we get 4-5 reck/rav/roars and 2+avatars, we keep up with everything but boomie basically
wise solar
I agree with you just stop this non-sense argument, I am sorry everyone, I am bad and stupid
hollow glen
restive peak
It was a statement, not an argument. Jesus man
winter fossil
I agree with you just stop this non-sense argument, I am sorry everyone, I am ba...
Naaaa this community is to share
Ask and give, come on.
sour tundra
should I tie avatar / reck / ravager into one macro for thane fury?
dire vigil
Fury is badass at important things in keys
lone zinc
dam its lit in here. hope you're having a good sunday bois.
dire vigil
I smoke everyone on swampface in floodgate every run
winter fossil
should I tie avatar / reck / ravager into one macro for thane fury?
Not really needed
They only align on pull
But during the fight they never align or you lose dps
restive peak
You kinda want rav on its own button w an @cursor or @player (depending on your comfort) macro
winter shoal
should I tie avatar / reck / ravager into one macro for thane fury?
This is what I do, but it's probably better to have a separate button for reck+rav without avatar, since those two are basically always going to be on the same cd, and ava is a fixed 90s
restive peak
I mean if reck/ava are tied
And ava isn't off CD
It just sends reck, so that part is ok
I have 1 "send all" macro that's reck/ava/roar, and then a rav @cursor, and a reck separate
Incase reck/rav come up in a pull and so does ava, but I want ava for the next pull
And then just use as needed
lone zinc
Incase reck/rav come up in a pull and so does ava, but I want ava for the next p...
this right here
winter shoal
I also have a separate reck for prepull charge, and technically also a separate rav button but I just don't use it
What I meant is like if ava is up but you don't want to send it before a boss or whatever, but you do want to send reck/rav bc they're shorter cd, you'd want to have separate buttons for that
lone zinc
have a send all macro with ava/trinket + reck/rav. and a seperate one with just reck/rav.
winter shoal
But that's pretty rare
restive peak
Ye that's what I have
winter shoal
I acknowledge that a separate reck/rav button is useful in that case, I just don't use it 🙂
restive peak
xD
lone zinc
yep, cuz u might wanna send reck/rav and reset it a little bit on a pull thats like 50-60% dead and save ava/trink for next 1.
restive peak
Fair
summer quail
What I meant is like if ava is up but you don't want to send it before a boss or...
i do that quite alot in raid. very good for gallywix timings for example
winter shoal
Like sending reck/rav on boss and holding ava for add spawn?
Seems cursed to me
I think adds are omega fake on that boss though except maybe in mythic (although by the time I get there, they'll probably be fake on mythic too)
summer quail
yuhh, if i just spend on rampage whenever i get bs back in time for adds
winter shoal
Like the silken beetles
summer quail
instead of doing the bs>rb thing
tho tbf i could definetely optimize gallywix more. my worst parsing boss
winter shoal
Same but that's bc my guild is ass cheeks
Surely not a me problem
Case in point #fury message
winter shoal
Bribe your priests 
I actually got PI during execute on our first normal kill bc our hunter died
Was like rank 5 fury or something, rank 25 all classes
But they won't continue giving me PI?????
summer quail
remove PI
smoky vale
Same but that's bc my guild is ass cheeks
join behind the curve
winter shoal
Are they gonna go to 2day and are those two days gonna be mon/tues/wed?
And are they gonna shift their raid times up 2-3 hours?
smoky vale
no
last lichen
i just dont click on logs that get pi, its a crutch i cant copy
sour tundra
what trinkets is everyone using in mythic + as fury?
fickle cedar
im using mechano and pacemaker
restive peak
mechano/house
lyric panther
my fave music genre
winter shoal
graceful dock
assuming we have every trinket, which two are we using? pacemaker&lifier in m+ and kezan&lifier in raid?
wise solar
It was a statement, not an argument. Jesus man
Sorry, I was in a key, and didn't have the opportunity to answer to your personal attack.
Okey Mr. Statement, waiting for your log where you do 3.6 million DPS overall (best deva dps log without PI) in Cinder 13 in 662 ilvl.
Then you can prove your point, that simply I was just bad and deva was better, and fury warrior is gucci with 5 target cap and we can do more overall than they do.
timber hare
what trinkets is everyone using in mythic + as fury?
Amp and Energy drink seems to be far ahead, at least for my Sims
graceful dock
Amp and Energy drink seems to be far ahead, at least for my Sims
energy drink?=
sour tundra
dang so we have to run 8 delves each week and pray we get mechano
graceful dock
ohh cool, havent heard of that one
timber hare
But that's a sim question
Yeah my champion energy drink Sims 10k higher than maxed out heroic pacemaker 😭
sweet palm
Im Fk up, tried to play arms in M+ today, hated every second of it, and the future looks grim for fury
graceful dock
Im Fk up, tried to play arms in M+ today, hated every second of it, and the futu...
why does the future look grim for fury? D:
quiet breach
is warrior, hunter, monk, melee + 5th the goat warrior m+ comp? @restive peak
sullen dove
Idk just look at what noxivs group looks like and that’s prolly one of the highest
maybe slightly better just like bringing a giga meta class for more dmg but all their buffs like interact with each other nicely
winter shoal
Swap rogue for ww angle maybe
quiet breach
Esp w slicing buff
is slicing buff different from mystic touch?
chilly fractal
B tier according to wowhead for Dev
sullen dove
winter shoal
Me when I look at a tier list for a trinket instead of just simming my own character
steep gull
Hey, maybe a noob question, but I'm noticing that funhouse lens and ava are desyncing in m+ even though they have 1,5min cd and I have them on the same macro. Does anyone know what might be causing this? Specifically lens taking longer to come off cd than ava.
steep gull
Ah, okay. Thank you :D
sour frigate
this gotta be insane right
looks good
floral mantle
is raidbots not working for anyone else?
restive peak
is slicing buff different from mystic touch?
Just an ability that got buffed and is good for AOE and st
dense elbow
Warrior buff when
When you start parsing all 
, so get at it. Get us those buffs!
warped tartan
does anyone know why thunderous roar isnt casting?
white grove
is raidbots not working for anyone else?
not working for me
torn halo
Is there ever an angle to take bladestorm in M+? I get ravager is more damage but tanks are so annoying with randomly moving mobs
restive peak
does anyone know why thunderous roar isnt casting?
You have ravager in there as well
hardy bluff
does anyone know why thunderous roar isnt casting?
because ravager and tr are on the gcd
summer quail
does anyone know why thunderous roar isnt casting?
coz you have several gcd abilities macrod
spare steppe
does anyone know why thunderous roar isnt casting?
isnt ravager on the gcd?
warped tartan
ohh I see thank you so much guys! sorry abt that!
candid falcon
anyone else unable to sim right now
white grove
yup, that
restive peak
Ye says it's down at the top of the site
candid falcon
ah it does, thank you
just got a champion track amp to go with my hero track energy drink
wanted to sim it just to be sure
grave stone
hello my fellow fury warriors
why does sometimes on the opener if u reck charge u get 79 rage and sometimes its 80 rage
oblique trail
If you're not in combat yet, you instantly decay 1 rage
barren stone
ye just depends how quickly you get in combat
oblique trail
Can be fixed by either heroic throwing then using your CDs, or whirlwind mid charge if you have to instantly AoE, like on Bandit
barren stone
why does sometimes on the opener if u reck charge u get 79 rage and sometimes it...
also reck charge doesnt bring you anywhere near those numbers
reck charge is about 60 ish
i recall my prev statement Starege
sour tundra
servers just died again 
pseudo rampart
Is fury getting nerfed? All warrs in guild rerolling dk..
oblique trail
Yes we're getting blown up like in S1
summer quail
Is fury getting nerfed? All warrs in guild rerolling dk..
unless they plan to push title then L decision. warrior owns in raid
oblique trail
Until you get to one armed bandit
iron portal
sullen dove
one bandit
tepid cedar
unless they plan to push title then L decision. warrior owns in raid
lol unless you have a set static group. We wil never get invited. No point in taking warriors when you can have gigs pack dps and not that much lower ST on some of these classes. I’m at all 13s and the few keys I applied to you just sit there (haven’t pushed ina. Few days anyways)
We really need target cap increase or better yet remove the shit
flat river
When you start parsing all <:gajeel:1156085588806598676>, so get at it. Get us t...
Say less
steep gull
Just looked at the thane prio list and execute is pretty low. How often are you guys pressing execute in m+?
tepid cedar
Just looked at the thane prio list and execute is pretty low. How often are you ...
Rarely ever
lol
It’s just there
heady cobalt
only when bt and rb are unavailable
forest owl
just there in all of it's wet noodliness
steep gull
Oh no, I've been doing it wrong
tepid cedar
We need to remove extra spear and rage talent and make it 45 sec reduction. Spear is sooooo satisfying to use with the extra crit lol
wise solar
It was a statement, not an argument. Jesus man
I had some time to look at statistics. 🙂
Maybe I will be even banned from here, because some people don't like facts.
I know math is hard, but trust me, it is existing for a reason.
First of all, what you linked me as a reference was a 24% key parse from the guy, so maybe he had a bad day, but compared to my friend:
Qbgosa:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/N4WRXrcV6kH78xdh?fight=16&type=damage-done
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/N4WRXrcV6kH78xdh?fight=16&type=damage-done&phase=2
My friend Chronoflame:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/gDmywCd91Zn7bARY?fight=3&type=damage-done
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/gDmywCd91Zn7bARY?fight=3&type=damage-done&phase=2
So what you sent is irrelevant.
Also Chronoflame ate Qbgosa in Cinderbew 13:
Chrono is: World 12. if we exclude PI runs: World 3.
Qbgosa is: World 41. if we exclude PI runs: World 15.
Even the best fury Warrior is behind with 0.5 million DPS:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/43?boss=12661&metric=dps&bracket=13&class=Warrior&spec=Fury
Your message:
"So 1 of 8 dungeons you didn't win uncapped pulls and that means we're weak"
#fury message
My answer:
If that would be the case, I wouldn't say to remove 5 target cap 🙂
Some more statistics with 13 keys, I mark significant ones.
[Deva NO PI],
[Warrior with or without PI, I even give warriors a bit advantage :)]
CinderbewMeadery
Best Deva NO PI: 3,68M DPS
Best Warrior: 3,10M DPS
Result:
DEVA WON with 580k overall DPS [SIGNIFICANT!]
DarkflameCleft
Best Deva NO PI: 2,92M DPS
Best Warrior: 2,69M DPS
Result:
DEVA WON with 230k overall DPS
Floodgate
Best Deva NO PI: 3,56M DPS
Best Warrior: 2,96M DPS
Result:
DEVA WON with 600k overall DPS [SIGNIFICANT!]
Mechagon
Best Deva NO PI: 2,46M DPS
Best Warrior: 2,34M DPS
Result:
DEVA WON with 120k overall DPS
Priory
Best Deva NO PI: 3,66M DPS
Best Warrior: 3,21M DPS
Result:
DEVA WON with 450k overall DPS [SIGNIFICANT!]
Motherlode
Best Deva NO PI: 3,15M DPS
Best Warrior: 2,99M DPS
Result:
DEVA WON with 160k overall DPS
Rookery
Best Deva NO PI: 2,92M DPS
Best Warrior: 2,79M DPS
Result:
DEVA WON with 130k overall DPS
TheaterOfPain
Best Deva NO PI: 2,92M DPS
Best Warrior: 2,31M DPS
Result:
DEVA WON with 610k overall DPS [SIGNIFICANT!]
Links:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/43?boss=12661&class=Evoker&spec=Devastation&metric=dps&bracket=13
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/43?boss=12661&metric=dps&class=Warrior&spec=Fury&bracket=13
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/43?boss=12651&class=Evoker&spec=Devastation&metric=dps&bracket=13
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/43?boss=12651&metric=dps&class=Warrior&spec=Fury&bracket=13
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/43?boss=12773&class=Evoker&spec=Devastation&metric=dps&bracket=13
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/43?boss=12773&metric=dps&class=Warrior&spec=Fury&bracket=13
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/43?boss=112098&class=Evoker&spec=Devastation&metric=dps&bracket=13
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/43?boss=112098&metric=dps&class=Warrior&spec=Fury&bracket=13
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/43?boss=12649&class=Evoker&spec=Devastation&metric=dps&bracket=13
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/43?boss=12649&metric=dps&class=Warrior&spec=Fury&bracket=13
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/43?boss=61594&class=Evoker&spec=Devastation&metric=dps&bracket=13
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/43?boss=61594&metric=dps&class=Warrior&spec=Fury&bracket=13
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/43?boss=12648&class=Evoker&spec=Devastation&metric=dps&bracket=13
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/43?boss=12648&metric=dps&class=Warrior&spec=Fury&bracket=13
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/43?boss=62293&class=Evoker&spec=Devastation&metric=dps&bracket=13
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/43?boss=62293&metric=dps&class=Warrior&spec=Fury&bracket=13
Also:
In my first image, I showed the overall DMG by a 13-key Cinderbrew, including the key parses and everything.
In my second image, I displayed the damage dealt by a 13-key Cinderbrew on the last boss, without bloodlust.
My point was simply that Fury Warriors are currently incredibly strong, but due to their target cap, their overall DMG falls short compared to other classes, meaning they cannot compete with them.
You deliberately misinterpreted this and explained it in a way that justified your own point, essentially arguing with yourself instead of addressing what I said.
I also noted that the Devastation Evoker kept up with me in single-target DMG outside of the massive AoE pulls on the last boss, so increasing the target cap would genuinely be reasonable.
To this, you responded by saying it’s simply because the Devastation Evoker was better than me and that I’m the bad player.
#fury message
This isn’t true either, so here are some statistics from the best logs:
TOP WARRIORS DPS logs for 13 Cinder:
- Yurnn: 1,76M DPS (without BL) https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/cX2pRGBqQAfz4W8V?fight=15&type=damage-done&phase=4#
- 桀骜斯达瑞: 1,84M DPS (with BL) https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/fLYbKzGa9JkZPrwm?fight=88&type=damage-done&phase=4
- Tacy: 1,68M DPS (without BL) https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/AN4wGhQCB7tMFnRc?fight=16&type=damage-done&phase=4
MINE: 1.91M DPS (without BL) I guess I done more DMG in the last boss, than the TOP 3 Fury player
Chronoflame: 1.86M DPS (without BL)
So your argument was simply invalid, and you can try to deny the truth, that target cap is limiting us so much, but you won't be able to. 🙂
End
sullen dove
holy yapaholic
wise solar
Triggered Fury warrior is smart sometimes
sullen dove
and theres no way 6.6m group overall in a cinderbrew is good
restive peak
Is this guy still going
sullen dove
that dungeon is like 15 target aoe packs every pack
restive peak
We're not gonna ban you for being upset I said your ST should be above your dev evokers
But like...bro
Grass is important
wise solar
We're not gonna ban you for being upset I said your ST should be above your dev ...
That is respectable, thank you. I thought you will insta ban
sullen dove
most people just dont log keys too
so idk finding the supposed "top player" in a 13 cinderbrew
like they're definitely nobodies
compared to noxiv n shit who prolly do 3mil overall in that place
wise solar
most people just dont log keys too
Thats true, but you can work from what you have
sullen dove
can maybe just watch him or critcake or something stream keys if you have downtime and are interested
and see a more realistic representation of high end warrior dps in some of those keys
dense elbow
What is the tldr of the discussion?
We arguing what got the more weight in keys, AoE vs Prio, and how it pushes the overall of the team at a certain cost of the individual DPS player?
young swan
compared to noxiv n shit who prolly do 3mil overall in that place
dawg i can do 3m in that place
sullen dove
yea i mean i havent done a key in like a week idk what the ranges are in these places atm
probably
young swan
hooly
sullen dove
but like 1.7 does seem insanely small
young swan
yeah idk 3m in cinderbrew is just pisslow
sullen dove
why am i still dcd in front of this world boss
dense elbow
3m Cinder is pretty avg, no matter the DPS. The outliers, BM and co, do closer to 4m on avg. And I am talking avg 12-13 keys
clever belfry
Also:
In my first image, I showed the overall DMG by a 13-key Cinderbrew, inclu...
i expect this written in LaTeX next time in the IEEE CS Conference layout