tempest as well
#fury
modest condor
i even checked to see if i wasnt being tricked into seeing the ele version, but it explicitly seperates ele and enha and both say ability power
warm crag
press n->click arms
it wont help your parses but you will inflict more relevant damage
compact knot
still less than the bm hunter
arctic salmon
she defnitely thinks shes a goat the way she walks on the top of couches
kindred basin
Is best-in-slots on use not showing on logs? As a cast i mean
dense elbow
still less than the bm hunter
cerulean cradle
should i aim to craft a weapon now or go for the wrists/cloak?
fading sky
Do u have myth track 2h?
cerulean cradle
these are the ones i got
warm crag
the lower ilvl mainhand goes really hard
neat gazelle
Who in here pumps in keys
young swan
this is my baby boy sleeping next to my dads cairn terrier
dense elbow
❤️
young swan
hes ~65lbs
warm crag
holy hell
young swan
Who in here pumps in keys
what do u wanna know
neat gazelle
My single target is good. My aoe seems like it could use some work not sure why
That’s my current setup
young swan
prob not pressing thunderblast hard enough
young swan
theres really not much to fuck up, just slam BT on CD for more tblast procs, maintain good uptime
use cooldowns efficiently
barren dagger
we slam BT on cd?
barren dagger
i thought raging blow had higher prio than BT.,,,,
barren dagger
yes
modest condor
the lower ilvl mainhand goes really hard
kinda weird how many people i've seen in the past 2 weeks with their weapons in the wrong hand
normally you see it like once or twice in a season
but i think i've already seen like 5 this season
winter shoal
I've seen two in 24 hours
hardy bluff
ive seen alot last season
neat gazelle
Are mine in right hand lol
modest condor
higher ilvl in mainhand
winter shoal
Yes
modest condor
if you have that then you're good
compact knot
I know a rogue who said slower speed in mainhand
winter shoal
Is bro living in 2006
modest condor
that's some classic era shit
compact knot
he kinda does
compact knot
that's some classic era shit
i also dont even think its right in classic lmao
modest condor
i dont know the specifics but i know there was something with rogues where you wanted to equip the faster weapon in one hand
compact knot
yeah i think ur right
smoky vale
you do fast in offhand for daggers to proc poisons
dont know at which point it doesnt matter for swords
think it also applies to maces
neat gazelle
Is it true arms is better mythic+ this season than fury
barren dagger
the best warrior spec in m+ is pink warrior
runic cypress
Is it true arms is better mythic+ this season than fury
No it's all propaganda
Don't believe their lies
neat gazelle
Liars!
sonic crescent
is SMF viable?
earnest canyon
Idk why they even put that in. It's like the BM hunter talent where you have one pet that does more damage, but it's still way behind 2 pets so noone takes it
azure holly
can you sim embellishments? anyway for neck slot the Lens is best for ST right?
or should I change embell?
earnest canyon
Yes you can
winter shoal
can you sim embellishments? anyway for neck slot the Lens is best for ST right?
You can but why would you use lens
azure holly
You can but why would you use lens
which one is better?
lemme see if I can sim the other ones somehow
winter shoal
I mean it depends on what gear you have and what you're crafting
azure holly
I have no ascendance, so this piece is on its own
winter shoal
calm zinc
any elses ravager + reck not syncing properly now?
azure holly
You can but why would you use lens
yeah I just simmed all embells, Lens is the best
winter shoal
I mean are you crafting JUST an embellishment, or are you crafting an item with an embellishment
azure holly
item with lol
winter shoal
Ascension weapon is good because it's a 675 weapon
The embellishments themselves all kinda suck
winter shoal
I mean that was probably not very wise because a weapon could easily be 100k+
winter shoal
But if that's where you're at then sure go with lens
azure holly
I mean that was probably not very wise because a weapon could easily be 100k+
not with HC weapons
so instead I opted to just upgrade those for 30 tokens and make the neck, neck was bigger upgrade
winter shoal
But yeah I mean if you already crafted the neck then sure go with EFL
You'll probably end up replacing with double duskthread in the end anyways
azure holly
I think the play is to save for ascendance weapon
and then I'll try and get the Writhing one on some slot, probably bracer
winter shoal
You can just recraft to change embellishments no?
warm crag
just put lens on neck or smth it doesnt really matter
azure holly
yeah, later I'll remove it and put Writhing on my crafted legs
warm crag
dont think you really go for writhing anymore either
winter shoal
neck can't have that
Yeah I meant recraft neck to get rid of EFL when you craft ascension or double dusk or whatever
azure holly
dont think you really go for writhing anymore either
ah really, interesting
warm crag
iirc threads are roughly the same and save you a recraft later down the line
sim your character shrug
azure holly
sure, but that sounds good then
winter shoal
dont think you really go for writhing anymore either
636 with writhing and 675 ascension weap is better than the 658 bracers I had otherwise
warm crag
ok but thats not the comparison to make
winter shoal
I mean I'm recrafting shit to double dusk anyways
Once I have sparks
Just a temporary thing
restive peak
this is my baby boy sleeping next to my dads cairn terrier
Cute babies
forest owl
beaten by PI, thats all my keys seem to be either being beaten by PI or uncapped classes doing 20m dps on a pull
clever belfry
beaten by deez
gleaming siren
@oblique trail what will you do if you aren't yellow on Skyhold anymore?
clever belfry
i wonder who this
forest owl
on the upside of being fury though healed myself more than the healer, i do like that about us
clever belfry
cow masseur is
warm crag
get cooked buddy
torpid elbow
anyone got any WA that'll lmk when to tb or WW
heavy folio
what was that wa called that is needed for fury?
viral gulch
Quick question - how much haste should i have for m+ thane build? I'm getting strange sim results where haste seems to loss value at 20% o_O
torpid elbow
someone posted an WA that helps keep track of when to use ww or tb
quiet breach
i made a wa that meows at me when i run out of ww buff
and also i use luxthos ww bar
viral gulch
i made a wa that meows at me when i run out of ww buff
Brilliant
viral gulch
i also made one that roars at me when i run out of enrage lol
When your enrage ends, it enrages the player XD
hardy cargo
i also dont even think its right in classic lmao
its right, you want highest dps and lowest speed because sinister strike functions off of the actual weapon damage
versed siren
Anyone else think the fury rotation got a lot more tedious with the new changes + the 4 set compared to last season
I feel overwhelmed tracking all these different buffs/procs and knowing whether or not i should press execute
I thought last season rotation was pretty zug zug spam execute to reduce avatar/reck CDs
frank dawn
All the BT/Execute conditionals are a little silly imo
fast mural
you didnt spam execute last season
its only 1 more WA to track cause we used the marked for execution one already
this is very similar to S2 DF playstyle
versed siren
Didnt play DF so i wasnt used to it and i was bad last season and didnt pay attention to marked for execution stacks lol
modest condor
if you didnt care about marked stacks last season then you'll have no problem not caring about bt crit chance this season
radiant knot
where tf does Mechano-Core Amplifier drop from im so lost
I know its a delve but which
modest condor
all of them
restive peak
It's a delve, so you want it from weekly map or from bountiful
Both my warrs have it on the normal track, it's honestly pretty common lol
cold salmon
i havent gotten the core amplifier yet :/
tender cape
feels uncommon for me 😭 done 18 bountiful keys and not seen it
cold salmon
Used every key ive gotten this season sadly
bitter palm
yeah i dont have one either
whole yacht
Both my warrs have it on the normal track, it's honestly pretty common lol
Never seen it
restive peak
So jelly of that 1
tender cape
huge
restive peak
But I am not doing 8 +8 delves a week anymore
It gets like...maybe 4
A week
Fuck delves bro, I want to claw my fuckin eyeballs out
tender cape
same
restive peak
Gonna teach my dog how to do them and let him handle it, that's how boring they are
restive peak
Teach me
modest condor
when it's the one with the lightning on the floor you never have to deactivate any of them, it does like 1.5mil damage per tick so you can just run through them even if there's a cage you have to open in the middle of it
modest condor
enemies you just let run after you and los somewhere to kill all of them at once
native wadi
BIS and Jastor secured
restive peak
Oh no shit, I may do 4 of those
native wadi
looking gut
restive peak
Still aint doin 8 LOL
restive peak
BIS and Jastor secured
grz fam
red heart
sorry for the italian tooltip my stat are fine? https://prnt.sc/qeVxOnXLREoz
modest condor
stats dont matter
restive peak
I love high Celerita personally
red heart
stats dont matter
?_?
native wadi
only robot matters
iron portal
I love high Celerita personally
It is quite critico
modest condor
you sim your gear and equip what the robot says is the highest dps, regardless of what stat % that puts you at
red heart
u mean raidbot?
modest condor
yes
clever belfry
prisma burrow
Our delve trinket can drop from the delve it’s self or only vault at end of the week?
Feel like I’ve ran 20+ by now all 8s half were with keys still nothing
covert blaze
bitter palm
balls
thorny jewel
Hey all, I just have some fine-tuning questions about our rotation. I now have S2 4pc, and I have been holding off on Bloodthirst until I am usually >60% crit. But when I have Vicious Contempt (in keys and ST builds), should I use BT on CD? And what about Burst of Power, save for high crit (unless it's about to wear off)? I might miss some procs that way, either with getting a new Burst when I already had a charge or just missing it. Also, I am now running a measly 8% crit in keys and 10% in raid specs, so it just takes longer to build up high BT crit chance.
restive glen
this is something odd im seeing but as i look at warcraft logs of Stix and im analyzing what other fury warriors are doing and learning how i can improve. Im seeing a lot of fury warriors dont even cast a signle execute on stix. Is there a reason for that?
Shtreangow Rank1 parse fury
Wallifexd: Echo mythic fury raider
Critcake: rank 2nd parse fury
Dumbmelee: rank 3rd parse Fury (2 execute casts)
is there something im missing that they're doing that I shouldnt be?
bitter palm
yeah execute is useless
modest condor
they are playing mountain thane
bitter palm
as thane
modest condor
Hey all, I just have some fine-tuning questions about our rotation. I now have S...
there's a weakaura in the faq that yells at you when you have to press bloodthirst
but it's just a combination of a bunch of conditions like crit chance and enemy health %
on aoe you can either choose to always prio bt over rb or just keep using the same prio as on st, doesnt really make a difference
thorny jewel
on aoe you can either choose to always prio bt over rb or just keep using the sa...
I have several WA already that show when I have charges of Burst of Power, and current % crit chance of BT (and others)
modest condor
the one in the faq has all the conditions you care about
neat gazelle
Do you pop cds instantly or wait till there’s a decent pull / boss?
thorny jewel
Interesting that Crit is actually not simming as my lowest stat, at least according to Raidbots stat weights. I know stat weights are discourged, but 8% just seems really fucking low to me... Mastery
29.32
Versatility
25.90
Critical Strike
23.12
Strength
22.15
Haste
22.11
clever belfry
pls dont sim stat weights :3
slow quartz
when u guys cast the "bis" buff?
sand crest
honestly I feel like they should just remove stat weights as a sim option for raidbots xD
thorny jewel
I have 52% unbuffed, but have been focusing on all haste/mastery gear, hence the shit crit 😄
red berry
i have 53% unbuffed 😭
winter shoal
honestly I feel like they should just remove stat weights as a sim option for ra...
tbf you really have to go out of your way to get them, and even then it tells you not to
wintry wharf
Is there a bloodcraze WA for stack tracking?
earnest canyon
man I thought I was high with 59%....on my hunter the stats are way more even
uneven path
How bad is Frenzied enrage compare to Powerful enrage for M+
winter shoal
Relatively small difference
ionic plaza
How much of a dps loss is not having the siren isle ring? I didn't play when it was released and just found out it is even a thing
whole yacht
you shouldnt be concerned about the loss
just go get it
takes maybe an hour to get and max it
ionic plaza
Thats a lot time. I don't know how big it is. If it's like 1% difference I won't bother
ionic plaza
No but I put 0 time into things I don't want to do ingame
frozen marten
Prefer to spend that hour in Disc talking about whether or not you should do it 😉
ionic plaza
Literally yes
whole yacht
fr could already have it in the time weve been talking.
uneven path
Relatively small difference
Thank you, tried using powerful, but I cant cope with loss of 15% of haste
ionic plaza
All I asked was that you give me a a percentage number of dps that I was losing and you couldn't even give it to me.
I need a number exact
whole yacht
go sim it if you want an exact numerical value
ionic plaza
I don't sim. Sims aren't real
spiral idol
Then why are you worried?
whole yacht
lmao
uneven path
Are you trolling ?
crystal coyote
I don't sim. Sims aren't real
Based
whole yacht
this dude cant be real
crystal coyote
Don't let the computer ghost whisper you lies
ionic plaza
Why would I sim my character, for a theoretical situation that isnt the reality..it's useless. Use your brain for a moment
uneven path
xD
ionic plaza
I asked YOU. Not the sim
spiral idol
Schrodinger's Circlet
whole yacht
the information EVERYONE HERE WILL GIVE YOU is based on sims
or they will tell you to go sim
uneven path
OK you are losing 30%
whole yacht
you have to be trolling
uneven path
If you are asking me then yes, I am, its hard to say how much you are losing, but it gives shit tone of Mastery if set up correctly, and based on what archi said, only fully upgarded M track ring is only slightly better.
So I would assume it might be idk like 5-10% for you depands on your rings man.
sly crane
Disregard sims follow vibes
uneven path
We stack heast, we vibe
summer quail
But I am not doing 8 +8 delves a week anymore
that last spot could be the one tho. like it was for me
restive peak
that last spot could be the one tho. like it was for me
13th reason = 8 delves a week
summer quail
rocky wharf
on mugzee, can u storm bolt a bomb and then leap over them to frost them?
sullen dove
idk but you can leap just next to them and take 2 steps behind them B)
left perch
Fuck delves bro, I want to claw my fuckin eyeballs out
Bro just prot warrior plus dps bran and its auto over. quicker than that sexy hoe you hook 😉
every body knows bro pulls
hollow elk
mild ravine
on aoe you can either choose to always prio bt over rb or just keep using the sa...
So my dps in keys doesn't come from me pressing too much RB? Go figure.
modest condor
the biggest problems are usually cooldown usage and uptime
and by cooldown usage i mean not using them often enough
mild ravine
I use it about twice in a pack if it lasts long enough, my CD has been around 45s
It comes up a bit before or a bit after roar
remote bobcat
where tf does Mechano-Core Amplifier drop from im so lost
farm out bountiful delve chests tier 8 and get the weekly map doing so
wintry wharf
If I have Kezan/Cards/Amp and in keys tanks cant chain pull is it better to just amp and cards instead of kezan and cards?
chilly fractal
Yo
fuck Underpin
I know it isn't the most impressive thing out there but it felt good to do
chilly fractal
Fuck Richard
earnest canyon
D-D-D-DJ DOoooooOOGSHIT!
feral ivy
Damn noxiv doing 17 TOP while ppl struggling in 10s that group is great
opal monolith
did they fix the bugs
dense elbow
The new push system in full effect. I am curious to see where the wall will be at, as we can efficiently grind at the key levels to an insane degree
opal monolith
where if u fail a few times the adds start spawning on top of the arena>?
solemn cedar
do we wait for a certain number of winning streak stacks to hit rampage, with 4 set?
dense elbow
Nop, nothing changes
undone flower
GG i killed him too today
sinful spoke
I hate that fight
indigo arch
Went from zekvir which is an afk check to horrid bomb targetting
undone flower
the adds just before the last intermission can be aids yes
queen panther
Anyone got that sudden death WA for single target?
winter shoal
Anyone got that sudden death WA for single target?
I challenge you to ctrl+f "sd conditions"
queen panther
huh?
winter shoal
winter shoal
I'm being a bit petty, but generally if you search here or on wago with some keywords, you can find what you're looking for
Also some wa are linked in #1237307732705415228 message and on the wowhead guide
queen panther
Aaah, yeah I was just blanking on the name. Just needed that and would've found it
lol
tame gorge
so i spent my sparks on my crafted piece, got a mythic track mace from my vault, and H BIS just now..
wtf am I doing?
winter shoal
Getting lucky it seems
Surely crafted 2h + myth 2h > hc bis though I'd imagine
I mean sim question I guess
young swan
did u insta craft last week with the early spark
tame gorge
Its saying crafted with mythic weapon is better than crafted and capital punisher
@young swan Ues
Yes
winter shoal
Somebody didn't read the faq about crafting
Tbh though if they got myth weap from vault then crafting 2h was maybe still correct
tame gorge
idk why I assumed heroic capital punisher would be better
winter shoal
And then getting hc BIS was the icing on the cake
tame gorge
seemed tempting and my wow audit said it was an upgrade though. I'm confused asf
winter shoal
idk why I assumed heroic capital punisher would be better
I mean it's like 0.5% free damage or something
The cantrip doesn't cost the secondaries on it
young swan
Tbh though if they got myth weap from vault then crafting 2h was maybe still cor...
u ALWAYS wait until after ur weekly raid clear
to craft
winter shoal
I didn't 
tame gorge
Could it be an upgrade with double duskthread?
winter shoal
How am I supposed to get my early season heroic parses without crafting a 675 2h xan?
(we raid tues/wed)
And then my parses are beans anyways bc tanks can't position the bosses well and bad kill times
Not my fault, I play perfectly
tidal kindle
u just didnt get punished
Being consistently lucky is a skill
young swan
yeah but crafting a weapon is just an actual misplay
(unless u dont loot myth weapon)
tidal kindle
(unless u dont loot myth weapon)
Looted mythic wep after I crafted wep...
GG joever
chilly fractal
where if u fail a few times the adds start spawning on top of the arena>?
That I guess is fixed? Never happened to me
tidal kindle
slender apex
does any badass want to post their fury warrior mountain thane M+ rotation?
lapis eagle
does any badass want to post their fury warrior mountain thane M+ rotation?
check noxiv's logs 🤪
olive wraith
Ya it’s on wowhead
thorny cove
I hit the fury brick wall in keys can't get past 2700 
dense elbow
You will get over it, we just bash our head against it more than most to bring it down
modest condor
that's not the fury brick wall that's the off-meta dps pug wall
young swan
I hit the fury brick wall in keys can't get past 2700 <:sadge:820202363359854633...
i felt bad earlier cause i got into a +11 cinderbrew and saw u applied and then like 10 minutes later closed the game
thorny cove
@young swan all g bro
dense elbow
betrayed by the one you trusted the most
pearl sequoia
LOL
fading sky
Looted mythic wep after I crafted wep...
That is how it works
Also i reckon its. Not that bad. Delays bis setup 4 weeks is all
And last season i got mythic weapon week 13
atomic fog
Hey! Do you guys recommend to lower spell effects on m+? In some big packs I find it dfficult to see anything and avoid mortal spells
atomic fog
Thanks I’ll try. Sometimes even my ravager only makes me miss some circles
gloomy owl
what about particle intensity
pulsar prawn
Hey! Do you guys recommend to lower spell effects on m+? In some big packs I fin...
i dont need to see those kinda stuff. what me helps is:
- plater colors for mob types .. like interrupt, frontals, ..
- dungeon WA pack with voice lines.
the new visuals with clear outlines definitly helps alot what lacked over a decade. but plenty spells are still annoying to see esp when bigger pulls. like firestorm from evoker 
earnest canyon
I think they did better on the raid with telegraphing abilities, but they still have too many effects. Mugzee even on heroic is a mess of swirlies and abilities.
turbid bay
they need to start doing it more for frontal cleaves like the first boss of TOP it still has no telegraphs its like some dirt effect? same with 2nd boss motherlode.
earnest canyon
they need to start doing it more for frontal cleaves like the first boss of TOP ...
yeah its a pale grey cone
they wont do what they should do because of "flavour" I think
so they wont have like TOP bosses chucking out bright orange zebra striped effects because its not spooky and shit
warm crag
The cone on top first boss is exceptionally bad but it was probably an experiment
earnest canyon
i always get caught out on the last boss on higher keys cos i cant tell which way he is facing and am too busy zooming out to see the ghost chargers
i have the reaction speed of a sloth
turbid bay
also not sure if its just me but the mobs at the end of floodgate with the purple cone can be hard to see
but yeh should be consistent and fix that
earnest canyon
that is definitely true too....if it wasnt bright purple i wouldnt be able to see it as the actual graphic is some blurry smoke thing
turbid bay
yeah just need to do more cleaves like the rookery first boss/packs
like that shit is clear af
earnest canyon
yeah thing with rookery though, as its all lighnting and shit, so its fine for them to use bright blue
turbid bay
yeah i get it they did the same for first boss of floodgate. probs just bite the bullet and make it more readable and give a setting if others like the other looking cleaves and aoes
but yeah the TOP one is horrible got hit by that more times then i like to admit if im sleeping
earnest canyon
id like if they just gave us a high contrast mode for spell effects....
i already mute the music and have the talking heads turned off, so I dont really care about the spell effects looking thematic
give me bright orange cones instead
warm crag
id like if they just gave us a high contrast mode for spell effects....
i alread...
Muting music in the raid should be punishable by 2 years in the balls dimension
earnest canyon
Muting music in the raid should be punishable by 2 years in the balls dimension
I do it a few times with full music in normal, but i prefer discord banter and joking around
turbid bay
oddly specific
earnest canyon
I do all the dungeons with music on too a few times
warm crag
The music made stix prog bearable
warm crag
Spoiler everyone has to roll usually
earnest canyon
I try to hit the cheating bastards better dps than me
warm crag
Ye its like 6 rolls until boss dead and offtank +3 get picked and u cant roll twice unless ppl croak
turbid bay
ahh ok i havent done mythic only heroic
earnest canyon
does rolling into the bombs count for damage or is it just going into the boss?
turbid bay
i mean it shows up on the logs right but not ingame meters
warm crag
does rolling into the bombs count for damage or is it just going into the boss?
That damage isnt attributed to players anymore
turbid bay
and its not credited to you
earnest canyon
ah ok, i figured that but havent checked
warm crag
And rolling into a bomb does 0 damage ye
compact siren
Spongie does 0 damage
warm crag
Spongie does 0 damage
earnest canyon
Spongie does 0 damage
join the club
undone flower
Im starting Sunday stix prog, you need to roll over blue class players to kill the boss right ?
turbid bay
blue and dark blue don't be picky
earnest canyon
Im starting Sunday stix prog, you need to roll over blue class players to kill t...
I try to....he is super try hard Enh....its gone from
- Ooops silly accident
- Are you really this shit (had this one going for a while)
- You are fucking doing this on purpose now arent you?!
undone flower
I have a super tryhard annoying boomie and I’m tank so I will have plenty of ball dimension jail time to make him crazy
turbid bay
can you run over someone with the same ball and keep ministunning them?
undone flower
You can even drop some hyenas over them
opal monolith
whats the amount of crit percent chance bloodthirst goes over raging blow on ST above 35 precent hp
i know it says
3 stacks of bloodcraze
but if im tracking the percent crit on my bloodthirst
whats the goal?
somber elk
whats the amount of crit percent chance bloodthirst goes over raging blow on ST ...
Think 85
earnest canyon
i try to get to 3 stacks at least....or if its buffed by burst of power
it sucks when you wait for 5 stacks and it still doesnt crit
opal monolith
is burst of power worth sending with any amount of crit
or still want to get it up
warm crag
whats the amount of crit percent chance bloodthirst goes over raging blow on ST ...
Its specifically 85% you can Look into the apl if you wanna find stuff like this
warm crag
Afaik you dont care about burst of power
opal monolith
so still just follow the 85 percent crit?
warm crag
Idk i think so but i also havent looked into the thane apl
earnest canyon
is burst of power worth sending with any amount of crit
its 35% extra damage and no cd, so I just send it.....i like fury cos you press buttons and it seems it doesnt make that much diff unless you simply arent pressing buttons
chrome plover
Im starting Sunday stix prog, you need to roll over blue class players to kill t...
focus on mages and dragons
but careful they have some counterplay (my game froze for 5s when i ran over our evoker last night)
sour frigate
earnest canyon
but careful they have some counterplay (my game froze for 5s when i ran over our...
this has happened to me a few times, and not just on stix
last boss of floodgate i froze for 5 secs and nearly got hit by a spark
idk what is causing it as my PC is pretty decent
chrome plover
definitely an addon or weakaura
i dont get freezes at all, just happens when i roll over people on stix sometimes
and it's probably some weakaura
earnest canyon
its usually northern sky, i hate that shit
earnest canyon
I was getting lua errors from WA in season 1 about it even though i set it to "load never"
chrome plover
probably worth going through and deleting all ur old, unused or unupdated weakauras
and addons
earnest canyon
addons i usually keep on top of, but yeah you are right about the WAs
im lazy with those
chrome plover
and looking to see what's causing the lua errors, they usually dont actually cause any problems but on the off chance
earnest canyon
do you know where buggrabber/bugsack actually log the errors? because the little shitty window of the cut down stack trace doesnt help
there has been times where non updated addons were giving null pointers and i dont mind going to the lua file and fixing that
or calling functions that blizzard has updated to now be protected
earnest canyon
i figured it would log it, but i cant find it
tired root
guys fury or arms in 11 ToP?
chrome plover
fury probs
tired root
cuz of smaller trash right?
tired root
aah okok cool
chrome summit
Whats the best setup trinkets we can have to run mplus? From raid and not. Dropped mechano core champion today.
sour frigate
Whats the best setup trinkets we can have to run mplus? From raid and not. Dropp...
House of cards kinda mandatory
1.5m mastery boost
Funhouse maybe
fair thistle
pacemaker is also quite good
you frequently have the crit boost
making you hit atleast 40/45% crit under reck
rocky wharf
question...oce is similiar to west coast? like i've pugged m+ and made friends with nz folks plenty of times. but is there other countries/timezones? where it would effect me?
earnest canyon
I mean the closer to the server you are, the better....but id rather play with people i like playing with and have a worse ping
the OCE servers are in sydney australia
rocky wharf
good to know, thanks. i've never noticed extreme lag and thought maybe theres other servers. couple other friends on hawaii time and they mythic raid fine
earnest canyon
yes I think with how good connections and routing are these days, you will probably be fine
tired root
guys should i stack Bloodcraze to 75% then use Bloodthirst or sooner?
sweet palm
Guys i have a question, i was simming my character with Frenzied enrage and Powerfull enrage, but in all sims Frenzied is better by about 3%, and everyone else is using Powerful in keys, there is a reason for it? Should i keep trusting my sim and going frenzied?
sweet palm
guys should i stack Bloodcraze to 75% then use Bloodthirst or sooner?
Sonner, about 45-60%, even more true if you have reck cause it gets you 20% crit. If you wait you will be over capping crit
tired root
Sonner, about 45-60%, even more true if you have reck cause it gets you 20% crit...
got it and in st slayer build rampage>bloodthirst>raging blow prio or?
chrome summit
1.5m mastery boost
I guessed but damn raidtrinket isnt it 😦
sweet palm
got it and in st slayer build rampage>bloodthirst>raging blow prio or?
Rampage>RB>BT. IF below 35% Rampage>BT>RB
tired root
damn i was doing wrong i guess, so i always want to dump 2 stacks of RB when dont have Rampage then BT
sweet palm
Most likely yes
sweet palm
Remember that RB dont buff only your BT but also your Rampage
fair thistle
you should get a weakaura that lights BT when you’re sure to crit
revvez’s one does ut
for example
tired root
aah i see now, what is the name of it?
fair thistle
i guess execute is just bad XD
in multi target MT its 0 cast per key
fresh creek
luxuthos WA blinks aswell
fair thistle
aah i see now, what is the name of it?
don’t know the name sry
fresh creek
so then i should use my bt?
fair thistle
yeah
fair thistle
in mythic+?
if you play mountain thane you should always prio BT on packs rather than RB
fair thistle
BT gives you thunder blast procs
in raid its RB unless you’re 100% sure of critting with BT
fresh creek
even on 35% with VC?
fair thistle
exec becomes prio with 3 stacks
fresh creek
that i know
fair thistle
even on 35% with VC?
if you crit yeah if not its still RB imo
rb buffs your rampage
which deals significantly more base damage than BT
fair thistle
id rather buff 40% my rampage than 50% BT
warm crag
even on 35% with VC?
You bt if the boss is in vc range
The 85% crit chance and vc 35% conditional are on the same priority
clever belfry
funnily enough both of you arent doing what the apl does 👁️
warm crag
Wtf
clever belfry
earnest canyon
nooooo.....that matrix
clever belfry
surely i rerun sim and test it without the BC stack conditional in VC
classic overcook ngl
warm crag
The bloodcraze conditional in execute is mentally ill
clever belfry
quick add another conditional to your WA
earnest canyon
where is the 85% coming from?
clever belfry
Blame sarri
i didnt wanna type it out
fair thistle
raging blow 2 charges has a higher priority than BT VC without BC
clever belfry
where is the 85% coming from?
trial and error 👍
radiant plank
then it was 85
radiant plank
same with arms rage conditionals
clever belfry
(obv making educated guesses makes this process inf faster)
radiant plank
to this day me and fishy disagree with what rage threshold execute and OP should be used
earnest canyon
no but i mean where is the extra 10% coming from
clever belfry
the crit_pct_current takes bloodcraze, tier and reck into account properly, right walhe?
warm crag
where is the 85% coming from?
And with most gearsets 3 bloodcraze stacks ends up close to 85% so its just written like that in guides
clever belfry
did someone use rampage with 5 SS stacks?
when u get RB resets it happens
earnest canyon
And with most gearsets 3 bloodcraze stacks ends up close to 85% so its just writ...
oh i see, its not just counting the bloodcraze, my bad
clever belfry
yday during sprocket prog i got it
warm crag
Ye happens occasionally
clever belfry
maybe 4 times?
radiant plank
the crit_pct_current takes bloodcraze, tier and reck into account properly, righ...
Should do yeah
clever belfry
fair thistle
if u have bf up
yeah
clever belfry
the brutal finish coniditonal (top of the blue bracket) happens before any ramp cond
outside of u drop enrage
ofc
for it to chain x5 u kinda need a late BT enrage proc in bladestorm from unhinged
clever belfry
right now it doesnt even try to go for 5
fair thistle
though bladestorm gives you too much rage for you to not be capping
radiant plank
I think apl just stops at 4
clever belfry
ya
radiant plank
doenst want 5 ss
warm crag
Apl is woke
fair thistle
Apl is woke
agree
clever belfry
holy moly!!!!
radiant plank
holy moly!!!!
100 parse ruined right there
warm crag
Does it still have the execute with 2 ID Stacks if ur gonna Hit a big Button soon and not Max overwhelm conditional
warm crag
u mean this one?
No there Was one that Scanned for overwhelm stacks
radiant plank
2.6 at 30%
Jumpscare
warm crag
Maintaining jugg for the whole fight is so degen
radiant plank
vs the pull we killed the boss : D
warm crag
Make SD not give jugg but jugg gives a bigger Inc thoughts
warm crag
Hmm no
radiant plank
remove jugg
warm crag
I must relive the Video that Ruined warrior forever
sinful mantle
9000
radiant plank
argus video
https://wago.io/ALzEmMeCS
argus video WA
warm crag
I think Signet did more damage than that video
clever belfry
177300
warm crag
177300
radiant plank
177300
clever belfry
me when 7 but even more convoluted
warm crag
It has 2 7s
clever belfry
also 2 0s
warm crag
And a = Anda?
clever belfry
radiant plank
I think I will go watch how it feels to play arms warior in execute phase from nyalotha
warm crag
radiant plank
oblique trail
@clever belfry explode cretin
warm crag
Time him out
clever belfry
I think I will go watch how it feels to play arms warior in execute phase from n...
rank 1 big tentacle man 等级 1 大触手人 dream big two time 梦想大两次 execution upon the corrupted 处决腐败分子
radiant plank
Archi times me out as a hobby
radiant plank
hooly
radiant plank
sick
clever belfry
and if u were a true goat u took enough corruption to pop 100% amp for 25-0
radiant plank
i bet banezi did
radiant plank
Only relevant metric anyway
radiant plank
Sounds great
clever belfry
@oblique trail what the frigg is this
zy nicole astra
miyabi burnice lucy
sanby pulchra rng?
is this it
oblique trail
i bet banezi did
I played dick hunter in nyalotha so all I had was praying for awful procs to do any semblance of damage
radiant plank
I played dick hunter in nyalotha so all I had was praying for awful procs to do ...
Sorry to hear that
clever belfry
i liked the timeline where dh just did dmg if ur borrowed power
did dmg
the base class did nothing
oblique trail
Yeah very fun
radiant plank
Gromnak infinite stars
clever belfry
cant wait to have unsubbed by then
radiant plank
yau
oblique trail
zy nicole astra
miyabi burnice lucy
sanby pulchra rng?
I played something close to this (mono ice typhon)
Didn't shill the newest character so I must pay
earnest canyon
watashi wa bad-o-pitto
earnest canyon
junior gale
earnest canyon
what the fuck is the in built display tracking for raging blow where you get the 2 red curved arrows around your char?
im trying to check but you have about 200 buffs in the top right
sorry rampage
hardy shuttle
I'm pretty sure it just means rampage is available to press. But I have all those turned off
Like you're above 80 rage
clever belfry
I'm pretty sure it just means rampage is available to press. But I have all thos...
that would be correct
earnest canyon
yeah my wa tells me when i can press it
so nothing useful then....thanks
how do you turn it off?
oblique trail
Go into options and turn spell alert opacity to 0
earnest canyon
thanks
oblique trail
Option is called something like that
tardy lark
i dont find anything under "something like that"
clever belfry
i dont find anything under "something like that"
danish
tardy lark
how did you know i suffered that disease
clever belfry
its obvious sorry
warm crag
i dont find anything under "something like that"
Evil pfp
earnest canyon
how did you know i suffered that disease
Lad os alle sætte os ned og nyde noget rødgrød med fløde
oblique trail
i dont find anything under "something like that"
Idiot
clever belfry
holy shit is that @gleaming siren LET HIM BATHE
gleaming siren
remote bobcat
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/MnxJWBGL92Hvcywp?fight=43&type=damage-done&...
why did it take you mroe than one full second to charge after popping reck?
also instant whirlwind from charge ? why?
fluid pollen
Waiting on tanks to get him into position. No idea on the WW lol. Accidental from habit
earnest canyon
Waiting on tanks to get him into position. No idea on the WW lol. Accidental fro...
I just start wacking
its their job to keep aggro and move it
oblique trail
Idiot Aagaard Noob
Need to find room for rat
gleaming siren
Nooberian Aagard Rodentius
tardy lark
it is i
mellow bloom
does plater by itself not recognize vicious contempt for execute range ?
i always forget when swapping between specs to swap the values back and forth in advanced execute range options
hardy bluff
surely you can set conditionals for what spec you are in
pure wadi
if i am reading this correctly, during Reckless Abandon, you do not press Rampage at all unless enrage fall off
and outside of reckless abandon, only if <3 bloodcraze buff / >35% health, i press rampage whenever i can.
heavy dock
i would tell u but i dont play the new ra, it looks hot garbage
timid forge
i didnt think RA was being ran at all.
tardy lark
it isnt
granite bison
Are there any video guides or rotation Weakauras for Fury? I've seen the written guides but something aint right. I'd like to see a video of people explaining it. I think it would help me.
P.S. Critcake does commentary for specific scenarios, which is more advanced.
heavy dock
idk this 'rework' of RA really felt like a "we have no idea what to do with this talent so we're just gonna try some random shit, we hope you enjoy it!" lmao
dense elbow
Are there any video guides or rotation Weakauras for Fury? I've seen the written...
There is no way there isn't videos. If not by ppl in here, then by the generalist YouTubers
just do a fury warrior rotation search
granite bison
Just use wa
Im using a WA that tells me when to BT and another for SD, but I'm doing low dmg and I don't know where exactly I'm fucking up.
Raidbots says I should be doing 2.1M, but I'm doing way less like maybe 1.4 - 1.7M
gilded pawn
idk this 'rework' of RA really felt like a "we have no idea what to do with this...
It’s not random, this is what RA used to be
tardy lark
ninommo has some from this season
fading sky
Im using a WA that tells me when to BT and another for SD, but I'm doing low dmg...
Do u sim with or without buff do u have the buffs?
tardy lark
usually biz does some sort of guide as well
fading sky
Also rarely is there a boss where we hit sims
heavy dock
It’s not random, this is what RA used to be
when? i dont remember this talent existing
gilded pawn
when? i dont remember this talent existing
Since at least shadowlands
fading sky
Sl
gilded pawn
So 5 years ago
I find the old RA to be very invasive to the rotation
Especially the first iteration of rampage RA
heavy dock
the one we had last patch was fine imo
gilded pawn
That one is not bad
heavy dock
it had a sort of 'cyclical' rotation
fading sky
Atm fury is grest
gilded pawn
It’s probably the best iteration of rampage RA
heavy dock
and it felt good to press the empowered spells
fading sky
Am loads of cds still insane st
heavy dock
especially the bloodbath with high crit chance on 5 targets that were low
tardy lark
Roar down bad cause everything got buffed around it 😦
gilded pawn
I think rampage RA fries dopamine receptors
red heart
https://prnt.sc/8pL5ju_zQmkn hello did u know i didnt reach the rage for casting rampage on pull?
gilded pawn
Hate it when I have to hit 1 (one) spell every 90 seconds
dense elbow
What about 1 per 45 sec?
tardy lark
https://prnt.sc/8pL5ju_zQmkn hello did u know i didnt reach the rage for casting...
i didnt know
thats sad
heavy dock
Hate it when I have to hit 1 (one) spell every 90 seconds
that doesnt rly matter, if u somehow miss it it feels fucking awful
tardy lark
im sorry
oblique trail
https://prnt.sc/8pL5ju_zQmkn hello did u know i didnt reach the rage for casting...
If you do it in combat, you'll get enough rage
heavy dock
thankfully they removed the needing to stand it it
fading sky
Y
oblique trail
But if you struggle with getting 79 rage on pull start, then just heroic throw right before you reck + avatar -> charge
Since you force yourself into combat so your rage doesn't decay
heavy dock
idk why they dont buff to have like an 8-10 yd radius
red heart
But if you struggle with getting 79 rage on pull start, then just heroic throw r...
im tryng
oblique trail
Then just do what I said
You'll never not be at 80 rage if so
The global spent on the heroic throw wont be a problem either, unless you specifically have to instantly AoE (like on Bandit, but then WW will give you enough rage to be above 80 anyway)
heavy dock
technically the 2 auto attacks after u reach ur target should give enough right
oblique trail
Assuming you don't miss, yes
oblique trail
It is
heavy dock
tbh i really dislike this charge reck thing
gilded pawn
Also like
heavy dock
they should just make reck give 80 rage and call it a day
its weird to press ur cds before charge imo
south kayak
have you guys played with the biofuel in delves?
heavy dock
yeah
red heart
Fixed
south kayak
it's so good
gilded pawn
Your parse isn’t gonna change from 1 gcd in opener
dense elbow
Just make reck enrage you, if anything
south kayak
60% MS and haste perma
heavy dock
i usually just charge in and press a raging blow or smth
red heart
i had a macro with avatar first than reckleness
oblique trail
There you go
red heart
3 week with that macro
oblique trail
It didn't use to matter when we played RA
red heart
complaining about that
oblique trail
Because RA would give you 50 rage on its own
heavy dock
i wonder if they are gonna add more hero talents in midnight
how funny would it be to have an 'odyn's chosen' spec or smth where you build up like tempest to make your whirlwind be odyns fury lol
uncapped
dense elbow
Doubt that, and that isn't what OF should be
gilded pawn
The more you have access to something the weaker it has to be
heavy dock
yeah like the shamans tempest hitting for 8m every 10sec
;d
they forgot that about enha last season
gilded pawn
Yeah and that was op
fading sky
Enha is still very strong
heavy dock
i mean ill take it even if its weaker
maybe it buffs bladestorm to throw out odyn flames while spinning
idk im just spitting random shit lol
fading sky
Im pretty certain that, if ww was weaker we wouldda seen enhancers
dense elbow
Just buff OF 51%-151% baseline, then make the nodes more impactful.
Titanic rage up'd to 50% or similar to pack a punch.
It needs to do enough damage that when you press it, you feel it
fading sky
We would also see fury
Echo used fury
gilded pawn
Oh I didn’t see
gilded pawn
Wasn’t that method
dense elbow
I remember someone bringing Fury for Gally, but commenting on that they should have swapped them out
Was echo no?
fading sky
I mean 50 pulls kill
granite crown
Liquid brought until like 5 pulls before kill when they got their mage geared
fading sky
Coz fm = stupid
granite crown
But tbh probably would've brought if Wolfdisco had mythic weapon
hardy bluff
fury is good on that fight
south kayak
Fury is pretty strong still
opal monolith
If you have a sudden death proc , ashen juggernaut aside, and only 1 stack
south kayak
why are you guys complaining about WW
opal monolith
howmany seconds before it expires do you use it?
summer quail
why are you guys complaining about WW
i prefer thunderclap
dense elbow
why are you guys complaining about WW
Prob cause it does more dam than Fury, more burst than Fury, more utility than Fury, more mobility than Fury, you get the point
And Fury gonna get nerfed
hardy bluff
monk utility is the same as warriors
dense elbow
No matter what happens tho, we will have spell reflection and rally. Can't take that away from us
heavy dock
yeah, except they have dispells, ring of peace, some ranged dmg, aoe stun, and some off healing
a cc
oblique trail
howmany seconds before it expires do you use it?
You just use it before it expires then if there is nothing else outside of that, ideally a GCD or 2 before
south kayak
Prob cause it does more dam than Fury, more burst than Fury, more utility than F...
Can I have what you're smoking
heavy dock
enrage dispell
opal monolith
You just use it before it expires then if there is nothing else outside of that,...
so u can just press it as soon as it procs then basicaly?
doesnt matter?
heavy dock
i find it funny warrior is the only class left in the game without cc
or a dispell of some kind
oblique trail
Not really no, because there are higher priority and better to press buttons, than a single execute that's not buffed by either Ashen or Marked for Execution
hardy bluff
i find it funny warrior is the only class left in the game without cc
we have st stun aoe stun aoe fear selfdispell
hardy bluff
noone uses that shit
dense elbow
Can I have what you're smoking
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/42
Don't dig too greedely and deeply, when you stare into the abyss and all that
opal monolith
Not really no, because there are higher priority and better to press buttons, th...
i dont rly understand it from the wowhead priority
heavy dock
sure but that requires using a 2min cd
oblique trail
i dont rly understand it from the wowhead priority
Right. To boil it down, you execute if
You have 2x SD stacks
Ashen Juggernaut is about to expire
You have 3x Marked for Execution on the target
heavy dock
or a 3min cd talent
dense elbow
we cant help there either
Frenzied regen and victory rush, bitter immunity... Hello?
hardy bluff
yea but you are a group
dense elbow
you said nothing
heavy dock
i said nothing? almost every class has a 12s cd dispell
hardy bluff
no they dont
opal monolith
Right. To boil it down, you execute if
You have 2x SD stacks
Ashen Juggernaut is...
okay i do that , but 'about to expire' on 1 stack is then as late as possible?
dense elbow
Imp
oblique trail
okay i do that , but 'about to expire' on 1 stack is then as late as possible?
Yes, if you have Ashen running, and/or only 1 SD stack, then you'd Execute when Ashen or SD is about to expire
heavy dock
it just sucks seeing your whole group dispell itself of that affix then you're there waiting for heals or another dispell off cd
yeah which gets more and more 'nerfed' every season with spells just being deflects
i miss s2 of DF reflecting tank busters
that was funny
dense elbow
Was just that strong
hardy bluff
you can still do that with some
opal monolith
Yes, if you have Ashen running, and/or only 1 SD stack, then you'd Execute when ...
thx, and i guess its never worth to delay bladestorm for reck?
oblique trail
thx, and i guess its never worth to delay bladestorm for reck?
I honestly don't know the technical correct amount of time to hold BS, but if I have BS up in 2 rampages, then I just hold 👍
opal monolith
I honestly don't know the technical correct amount of time to hold BS, but if I ...
thanks
heavy dock
should make avatar dispell some debuff classes too
would help in the long run prob
make us immune to bleeds
dense elbow
Avatar should be stone form on steroids
heavy dock
real
dense elbow
For Khaaaaaz'Mo'DhaaaaaaaaAAAN
dense elbow
Not really, it is from where it got inspired tho
Avatar could also be a Odyn thing, so on
Imagine if every race had their own twist on avatar, based on their culture
iron portal
dense elbow
Night Elves get starfall during avatar 
iron portal
where is my spell immunity
gilded pawn
Tbh I’m down for it giving some stamina
dense elbow
Hold up, where is mag spell immunity indeed
iron portal
Tbh I’m down for it giving some stamina
ikr
dense elbow
Bliiiizzzzzard
gilded pawn
ikr
The fact that avatar has no defensive benefit for prot baseline outside of the minor rage is so weird
dense elbow
I don't know why, but in my head prot Ava should give 10% DR, even tho it dont
gilded pawn
I’m down for 10% stamina
sharp cargo
should i throw the roar before getting enraged?
thats the only button i find issues fitting rn
spare steppe
Avatar should make you immune to bleeds
dense elbow
thats the only button i find issues fitting rn
You easily could, the dam from it is quite low, just make sure you basically get all of it enraged tho
storm bough
Has anyone else found issues staying competitive damage wise in keys 11+ and higher? Is this just being a victim of the meta? Or should I continue digging for mistakes in rotation/uptime?
chrome plover
Has anyone else found issues staying competitive damage wise in keys 11+ and hig...
always continue digging but yes, fury struggles to keep up in a lot of the keys this rotation - at least if ur playing with people of the same skill level
dense elbow
Has anyone else found issues staying competitive damage wise in keys 11+ and hig...
Twoparter. Yes you will do less overall.
No, your damage isn't bad. It got a different profile.
restive peak
I end every 14/15 at #2, sometimes 1, we just don't do burst
final birch
We are extremely good in M+
Not really
flat river
give fury a cheat death talent that makes us live for 8 seconds extra after taking fatal damage and we have enrage, recklessness, avatar, bloodlust, and 20% dmg increase for the duration
storm bough
always continue digging but yes, fury struggles to keep up in a lot of the keys ...
Copy that. Thank you
dense elbow
You so boss dam and prio dam, not mass AoE
final birch
Fury is solid with ST being its strongest quality
But it falls off on overall by a lot
restive peak
Yeah tell me how shit we are while people are complaining about 10s
flat river
give fury a cheat death talent that makes us live for 8 seconds extra after taki...
what do u think @dense elbow
final birch
How does that matter what people are complaining about
You said fury is extremely good
restive peak
Because you're wrong
radiant plank
We are extremely good in M+
final birch
Which is not true
restive peak
And have zero experience to claim you're right on
dense elbow
give fury a cheat death talent that makes us live for 8 seconds extra after taki...
Cheat death should never be a DPS CD
restive peak
Except your own play, which means nothing
flat river
Cheat death should never be a DPS CD
what if for the duration, odyns fury deals 500% extra dmg
restive peak
Fury is extremely competitive, it is 1 of the better prio/ST DPS in M+ build currently, and in higher keys our 3-4 CD usages per pack is heavily keeping up
radiant plank
Fury is extremely competitive, it is 1 of the better prio/ST DPS in M+ build cur...
Stop coping and arms it up buddy You aint catered to like noxiv
restive peak
In 8s you're not gonna do well because we do low burst and nothing lives, if you're basing balance on low keys or heroic raid you just don't understand what you're discussing
Walhe wants me to be his arms bae so bad ❤️
final birch
I have enough experience to know that lol
coarse nest
Yeah I think people complaining about fury being bad are the same people farming 10s where the packs die in 30-40 seconds
Fury doesn’t shine in that scenario
radiant plank
Walhe wants me to be his arms bae so bad ❤️
you know it
dense elbow
Except your own play, which means nothing
Except you shouldn't say they are, from their perspective. They are not doing 14s where value appears. But 10s where it is lacking.
While we both are in the same camp. We got to agree that we ain't a good pick for their situation
restive peak
You do not have enough experience if you believe that