it's already in #1237307732705415228
#fury
edgy widget
whole yacht
5000 declines is insane
orchid dagger
is this real life
PvE moment
chilly fractal
rotund ginkgo
5000 declines is insane
thats basically half of df/tww
and out of those 700 many are raid invs/random +7s etc for gear
so its more like 400
whole yacht
damn
chilly fractal
I have never been declined from more keys than the beginning of DF S2
I couldn’t get into shit
restive peak
DPS in the thousands surprised every group doesn't know their name and pick them/10
rotund ginkgo
I have never been declined from more keys than the beginning of DF S2
@mossy fox the beginning of Critmage
pure hornet
does fury still loot spec into arms to avoid 1H weapons?
edgy widget
DPS in the thousands surprised every group doesn't know their name and pick them...
every time I'm declined, I send the group leader a message like "DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHO I AM?!"
rotund ginkgo
real
orchid dagger
does fury still loot spec into arms to avoid 1H weapons?
Only if you aren't a gigachad
rotund ginkgo
couldnt be me
restive peak
every time I'm declined, I send the group leader a message like "DO YOU EVEN KNO...
Fax
bitter palm
couldnt be me
sharp cargo
fourth floodgate of the week still no trinket
coarse nest
FOUR
fading sky
fourth floodgate of the week still no trinket
Brother we feel ya
coarse nest
sharp cargo
work is limiting my ability to do more floodgates
ill come back to my house to do more floodgates
covert blaze
summer mirage
In m+ scenario , are we pressing Raging Blow to stack crit on BT or just hitting BT on CD looking for more Thunder Blast procs ?
young swan
slam that shit
clever belfry
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1294680138042183711/1341410531180806214/p...
7
tidal kindle
What is this 7 lore
clever belfry
qi is chinese for 7 and losing your 5050 i nthe china gambling game to qiqi sucks
👍
true
slim grotto
When you guys macro Reck+Ava, is there ever a scenario where you would not use them together?
rotund ginkgo
enter floodgate
shaman dies 7 times
has least interrupts
has least cc
does 300k more dam than me
says "fk this" when its bricked
leaves
left perch
i have been to that exact party but ret paladin once
rotund ginkgo
potent thicket
whoever told me not to craft weapon ,thank you, but now I wonder if i should take Best in Slots champion track
rotund ginkgo
isnt 652 hero track
unless its one of those fancy champ tracks
and its like 4/8 out the gate
potent thicket
rotund ginkgo
id sim and compare it to a 665 hero track
put it on off hand as well
since itll 100% not be mainhand
potent thicket
rest is chest plates and a ring
i already got a hero ring
and 4p set
woopdy do
chilly fractal
Was the Ret dead during big pulls or something?
He ain’t kicking he ain’t doin the dam either
rotund ginkgo
he died once mb
weary tinsel
whoever told me not to craft weapon ,thank you, but now I wonder if i should tak...
is this a addon? or just a pic
warm crag
whoever told me not to craft weapon ,thank you, but now I wonder if i should tak...
u should probs craft weapon
potent thicket
maybe in future ofc
potent thicket
i will, got 60 of those high level crests
warm crag
king send it
warm crag
you shall emerge victorious
potent thicket
hopefully, can't play right now as i got a warhammer tournament in the weekend and my shit aint painted
edgy widget
fourth floodgate of the week still no trinket
arctic salmon
i got a capital punisher on my 596 dk from the timewalking box and alt f4'd
potent thicket
🤣
warm crag
i think you vastly overestimate the value of a capital punisher
arctic salmon
i mean i already had crafted 675 and heroic wep it just made me mad
warm crag
i mean ye your warrior would not use a normal punisher over a hc offhand
arctic salmon
i think its more the fact that i got a 2h on my frost dk lol
warm crag
fair
arctic salmon
theres no way to lock in 1h vs 2h like warrior going arms vs fury right?
warm crag
fury can't guarantee 1handers either
slim grotto
Spongie if I have myth wep and I crafted wep already, do I craft writhing bracers next week or start swapping crafts to 2x weave?
warm crag
just craft weaves
arctic salmon
yea i mean going arms to guarantee a 2h, theres no way to guarantee a 1h for frost dk?
slim grotto
just craft weaves
Do you know why the wowhead bis guide shows crafted wep and writhing bracer?
warm crag
cause it mightve simmed highest for some setup archi tried idk idc the bracer is about equal to just crafting a weave
sim it if you're unsure i might be gaslighting you like crazy rn
slim grotto
So you would craft 1 weave, then when I can craft 2nd weave, I remove embell from wep?
I have no opinion I dunno what I'm doing
warm crag
sure
or well you should probably keep ascension and make a value craft 3rd until u get myth biscapital
karmic fiber
Im checking the raidbots ability log and after each bladestorm it uses like 3 raging blows before using rampage, is this how it's supposed to be even with anger managment?
warm crag
ye check the wowhead/maxroll prios
you're minmaxing the slaughtering strike brutal finish damage amps
ocean steppe
Anyone else getting higher overalls in m+ as fury?
warm crag
no lol
dry spade
Anyone else getting higher overalls in m+ as fury?
Higher than when I play prot, but just barely
storm rune
Anyone else getting higher overalls in m+ as fury?
Is your tank pulling too small?
eager thorn
whats peoples thoughts on slayer vs thane for hc bandit? lot of higher parses are slayer but thane feels hella nice for me
oak folio
if I plan on mostly doing m+, which embellishment should I use?
potent thicket
thane in raid?!
compact knot
what's the best talents against rik reverb for u?
slayer
compact knot
whats peoples thoughts on slayer vs thane for hc bandit? lot of higher parses ar...
slayer
compact knot
mt
neat gazelle
When do you guys use tempered potions? Big pulls? Boss only? On cd?
sand crest
with lust / on big pulls
eternal sundial
When do you guys use tempered potions? Big pulls? Boss only? On cd?
with cds ideally on cd
neat gazelle
Thanks guys
eager thorn
multi target or ST? since the boss leave the things on the ground
Only single target fights in raid are sprocket and possibly mugzee for hc if ur guild doesnt have issues w adds living
river viper
big pulls in M+ I am only doing like 6 mil where as others ret, elemental are doing like 10-12 mil am I being a noob or is it just cause blizzards stupid target cap?
coarse nest
Target cap
river viper
Also is the fury 4p set bonus really weak? sim showing it as a DPS loss over s1 2p lol
coarse nest
It’s pretty bad yes
I’m surprised it would sim below s1 though depends on ilvl I would guess
tiny seal
Do we still need to re equip jastor or is the bug fixed does somebody know?
river viper
I’m surprised it would sim below s1 though depends on ilvl I would guess
got two 652's for those slots
silk wharf
Make sure you're accounting for enchants and possibly a gem in the helmet. Every time I simmed tier while I was gearing up it was always an upgrade over my 639's at 658. Small, but an upgrade.
clever path
how good or bad is our tier set this patch?
silk wharf
Big
fading bane
how good or bad is our tier set this patch?
pretty shit
but its an upgade over non tier lol
silk wharf
Oh, sorry. big trinket. tier set bad but ilvl is ilvl
spare steppe
its like 3%
clever path
is fury a dud atm or?
hollow elk
fury stronk
silk wharf
Its quite strong
marble schooner
Im going through my decline arc
silk wharf
But that doesnt leave this discord
marble schooner
somebody send help
silk wharf
Any non-warriors ask warrior is bad
dull compass
Should I be wiping my logs from my pc after they are uploaded
indigo arch
And zero uncapped in a season full of pad dungeons
spare steppe
And zero uncapped in a season full of pad dungeons
m+ its definitely felt
dapper goblet
madox for yellow
indigo arch
m+ its definitely felt
Playing ret or havoc alt and then going back to my "main" sure is
merry pewter
question got the best in slot weapon yesterday, is there a special way I am supposed to use it with fury?
slim grotto
What haste value are you guys aiming for?
I'm wondering why my sims are promoting so much vers when I'm barely reaching 30% haste (56% mas)
warm crag
What haste value are you guys aiming for?
I'm wondering why my sims are promotin...
Sim yourself... NOW!
I did sim..I just wanna understand the maths
gilded pawn
winter shoal
There are DRs on all stats past a point
I don't know what that point is because it doesn't matter
Do what the robot says 🙂
wary iris
past pivot
modest condor
ok equiping agi gear
olive wraith
I can finally roll need on glaives
winter shoal
@hardy cargo I think we were talking a few days ago about holding BS for reck vs not - I finally got around to simming "just use BS whenever you can" and it's -0.2% using the bis simc profile https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vHtuQtvz7CwNmTwbVnGEfG
-0.1% with my current gear https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/atpt9sv8yyJRC3jrEFz6HC
compact knot
are both ways of using bladestorm the opposite end of the spectrum?
in the sim*
like you send it on cd, but the sim always sends it with reck.
The middleground is probably the best where depending on the cd of reck is how you use BS.
id assume the sim does the middleground
marble pilot
I dont play fury to think about it. Send bladestorm unless adds are spawning real soon. (Also im not a high end raider anymore)
compact knot
this is like the bare minimum of thinking we have had to do in years
marble pilot
Its too much for me. Button is glowly I click it. Otherwise click raging blow
Which is often glowing lol
winter shoal
like you send it on cd, but the sim always sends it with reck.
The middleground...
That is not what the sim does
gleaming siren
The sim holds when Reck is less than 24 seconds away with AM
winter shoal
actions.slayer+=/bladestorm,if=buff.enrage.up&(talent.reckless_abandon&cooldown.avatar.remains>=24|talent.anger_management&cooldown.recklessness.remains>=24)
This basically says "hold BS for reck up to 24s"
gleaming siren
Which to be fair, I wouldn't hold it for that long usually
winter shoal
I removed that part to make it just actions.slayer+=/bladestorm,if=buff.enrage.up
compact knot
yeah that makes sense
winter shoal
Which to be fair, I wouldn't hold it for that long usually
I mean 24s is really like 12s with AM
gleaming siren
Yea
winter shoal
But yeah longer than I would hold too unless there are adds or something
gleaming siren
but that's 24s+ that BS could be CDR'd again
winter shoal
That's why we were discussing it originally bc it seems like a very long time
gleaming siren
Number was probably reached by trial and error
marble pilot
I kinda wish Thane was a little better in ST. I just prefer it over slayer.
gleaming siren
but obviously depends on the encounter
waxen vale
is it that similar because of extra casts? there must be points each way where it swings
i'm not gonna bother looking at the sims 😄 just curious
rare garnet
anyone have the sound ID to mute the set bonus?
winter shoal
is it that similar because of extra casts? there must be points each way where i...
Yeah I'd imagine so, but it's a bit of a moot point in many cases bc if you're holding BS for adds or something then that'll mess with your total casts anyways
waxen vale
true
brittle folio
we started replacing this Circlet yet, seems getting 3k + of 2 main stats would be more benefiicial
spare steppe
#simit
forest knot
nocturne salmon
lol
latent hedge
Can someone sim me
done
sullen dove
Occasional 2target but yeah
spare steppe
but it feels like its always a "focus this one target"
sullen dove
don’t think anything should be getting focused aside from goons when ur in a cage and it’s the only thing you can hit
Everything else just dies cleaved on boss usually
spare steppe
cool ty ty
vast flare
Im so confused, is mechano core amplifier really that good? I dont understand why, sorry to sound like a shitter here just so baffled
remote haven
In the pins I find 2 different Mountain Thane M+ Builds (the Link is with Thunderous Roar and the picture from the Talents are with Spear)
What do you guys use? Or are you using 2 points in crit and just the 1:30 Roar?
winter shoal
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That's what I use
winter shoal
Im so confused, is mechano core amplifier really that good? I dont understand wh...
Just numerically very good /shrug
remote haven
Pain and Gain instead of 45s roar? 😄
smoky vale
Pain and Gain instead of 45s roar? 😄
?
winter shoal
Oh I guess it does
Idk uproar is kinda shit
roar is kinda shit too
second wind maybe better idk
second wind is good in specific cases
remote haven
yea well im more between getting full spear or full roar (or 2% krit and roar)
since i never really use execute it feels bad to go 2% krit
fickle cedar
roar is way better imo
remote haven
and roar increases bleed dmg but i only bleed with BT crit
fickle cedar
yeah but at least you get quite some value with roar on big pulls
low folio
roar doesnt really give much value in mass aoe with all the nerfs its gotten
remote haven
yea so its kinda like the us election
:]
chose the less bad
maybe 2% flat crit aint that bad
fickle cedar
roar also doesn't disrupt much since there's no root and all
remote haven
I mean spear pulls back in for Darkflame first trash for example no?
might be situational then right?
probably best to just play arms 😄
fickle cedar
yeah probably
thane isnt the worst tho, i do m+ 12-13 and it still pumps, big pulls suck tho
remote haven
yea im reaching the 12 mark and i tried it a few times in bigger keys its good overall due to boss and prio dmg
celest sierra
i replaced depths insanity with bloodborne for keys
remote haven
thats why i am askign about the lower talents 😄
celest sierra
the added bleed damage feels good
winter shoal
i replaced depths insanity with bloodborne for keys
This is a wild take
remote haven
which one is depth insanity?
winter shoal
young swan
+4s reck duration
winter shoal
Arms has bloodborne as well yeah
remote haven
id rather put it in mastery than in bloodborne ye
ye im playing it in arms thats why i was confused
i also tried with both reck talents and no deft experience but i lost some rampage here and there so im back to 1 deft exp
remote haven
i replaced depths insanity with bloodborne for keys
dont you kind of wanna play odyns fury aswell with bleeds then?
winter shoal
odyns is extremely dogshit now
neat gazelle
What’s best m+ build? I’m using the MT one of wow head is that accurate
remote haven
its only so bad cause you need to waste 2 points in the crit talent for RB right? SPell for itself is not that bad when you account all the bleed bonusses and use it with roar together
or is it just numbers wise super bad?
olive nest
What’s best m+ build? I’m using the MT one of wow head is that accurate
Probably the talent build directly under where it says “best fury warrior mythic+ talent build”
celest sierra
dont you kind of wanna play odyns fury aswell with bleeds then?
no because odyns is so bad rn, but bleed form bt is consistant and then roar etc especially if u play 45 second roar
remote haven
Probably the talent build directly under where it says “best fury warrior mythic...
theres 2 though a picture with spear and a import with roar 😄
neat gazelle
Crumby definitely doesn’t pump
remote haven
yea i see I think I will try full roar then for now thanks for talking guys 🙂
feral ivy
how much are yall doing in keys at the end overall.. like whats yall normal around numbers?
winter shoal
Depends on key but like 3-3.5m
gray void
what is ur gear and ure doing 2.2
feral ivy
559 😦
gray void
i assume u mean 659 ye?
winter shoal
Here's a 10 floodgate I did earlier
gray void
hmm
feral ivy
i want to log my key but holy shit i lag when i do that
gray void
feral ivy
i was tanking earlier and just threw that one before i went offline
so eye is bad in keys ?
gray void
yeah its p bad
feral ivy
i have peacemaker but its normal
gray void
stacks drop insta if no chainpull
river lark
is ur 675 weapon in the offhand?
feral ivy
is ur 675 weapon in the offhand?
before i went offline i threw it on i was tanking earlier
river lark
ah kk
silk wharf
I don't see this on wowhead, and it already wasn't a great warrior trinket, but they changed how the Amorphous Relic works. It no longer drops when you leave combat ready to be procced when you get back into combat and has to ride out its full 1m icd every time.
feral ivy
ok im looking at other ppls rotation in keys and its completly diff from what i am doing.. im stacking RB 3 or 4 times and they just doing Ramp>RB>BT
winter shoal
Are you using the weakaura
Also prioing BT > RB in aoe is more or less neutral in lower target counts, and better in higher target counts
feral ivy
Are you using the weakaura
yea using that WA but tbh i dont really understand it someone said when it dings just throw BT
silk wharf
it's calculating all the crit bonuses, adding them up for you, and alerting you when it's been averaged out to be better to hit BT over RB (when you typically hit RB>BT)
winter shoal
yea using that WA but tbh i dont really understand it someone said when it dings...
(in single target) you prio RB over BT until the weakaura glows and goes kaching, in which case you prio BT over RB
celest sierra
the only time u wanna hit BT is when its gunna crit
and or below 35% health other then that u prio RB
silk wharf
I, personally, just send on 3 stacks of bloodcraze. Which I what I think Archi's guide suggests, and where I got the number. It might not be "optimal" but I put up good numbers.
And in exe ofc.
celest sierra
is there a weakaura that helps u track slaughtering strikes and bloodcraze stacks etc
winter shoal
the only time u wanna hit BT is when its gunna crit
this is not true
winter shoal
I, personally, just send on 3 stacks of bloodcraze. Which I what I think Archi's...
This is also not true because of the double down set bonus 25% crit
winter shoal
is there a weakaura that helps u track slaughtering strikes and bloodcraze stack...
What do you need to track them for?
winter shoal
What decisions are you making based off of those buffs
feral ivy
(in single target) you prio RB over BT until the weakaura glows and goes kaching...
rewatching noxiv's and critcakes rotatiion in their vids and i see what ive been doing wrong
i think lol ill try it out tomorrow
thick fossil
Man, I have a new hatred for ppl that play ranged classes.
sinful spoke
feral ivy
grats
sinful spoke
richard reverbs today too?
silk lichen
what is the slayer execute WA?
thick fossil
Indeed, I also just got that. Funny enough, it's that fight that I hate ranged players now
winter shoal
what is the slayer execute WA?
I challenge you to ctrl+f fury slayer conditions
thick fossil
Standing in melee so I can't walk on em with the puddles.
silk lichen
I challenge you to ctrl+f fury slayer conditions
ty
clever belfry
I challenge you to ctrl+f fury slayer conditions
7
slim coral
Nah
slim coral
What which enahnce
winter shoal
Dnl or something like that
slim coral
lol shamans be op
torpid elbow
clever belfry
I challenge you to explode
kabumm
topaz crag
Check it out
feral ivy
anyone know how to fix this? im wathcing a guildie stream and he has that but my pylons dont have a health bar
clever belfry
hardy cargo
<@315322964058963968> I think we were talking a few days ago about holding BS fo...
so youre telling me I can completely brain off it
winter shoal
so youre telling me I can completely brain off it
Yer
unless adds
then you gotta make a business decision
winter shoal
what about bladestorm and roar
wym
winter shoal
is it just me or is operation floodgate the most anti melee piece of shit
Not that bad?
smoky vale
is it just me or is operation floodgate the most anti melee piece of shit
rookery
winter shoal
Yeah rookery 2nd boss is criminal as melee
smoky vale
you can reflect the flame throwers
quiet breach
btw I put the spell reflect weakaura on and it literally did nothing
idk what's wrong with it
smoky vale
not in it bc not targeted
@slim coral how early do you have to press for backwash on bubbles
ionic bone
is this how your m+ overall is supposed to look like? It's a 10 PSF (3 mil overall) as 657
modest condor
<@137623498351837184> how early do you have to press for backwash on bubbles
if you use it right as he starts casting you'll get it back up for the last stack on the next cast at least
smoky vale
if you use it right as he starts casting you'll get it back up for the last stac...
what if you get 3
modest condor
then you use enraged regen
modest condor
maybe with the cdr talent you can get 3 but without you cant
smoky vale
just was hoping you could immune one every set
modest condor
no definitely not
slim coral
<@137623498351837184> how early do you have to press for backwash on bubbles
bro what
on you mean on floodgate
I was thinking irl
I was so confused for a second
modest condor
he casts ever 22 seconds, i think cdr gets sr cooldown down to 24 seconds?
slim coral
I was like why would you want bubbles in your backwash
exotic root
is it just me or is operation floodgate the most anti melee piece of shit
floodgate fine
rookery is unreal
sinful spoke
hows my mog
slim coral
I just press SR when he is about to cast
smoky vale
floodgate fine
hi
exotic root
hey gio57..
smoky vale
hows my mog
lock in
signal jolt
is it just me or are arms catching up and or beating us now
sinful spoke
wdym
smoky vale
i miss 
sinful spoke
arms is the better spec
modest condor
wrong
signal jolt
i thought fury was better everywhere
modest condor
depends on what damage profile you need
smoky vale
^
signal jolt
or am i getting paired with super arms warriors
modest condor
fury is definitely not better everywhere
quiet breach
is this how your m+ overall is supposed to look like? It's a 10 PSF (3 mil overa...
if I'm reading this correctly, u pressed raging blow 1064 times and bloodthirst 881 times?
smoky vale
if I'm reading this correctly, u pressed raging blow 1064 times and bloodthirst ...
no those are hits
wont show casts unless you hover over specific abilities
sly crane
doing a 10 at 636 was pretty rough
ionic bone
I don't press RB in AoE if I have BT off CD
quiet breach
I don't press RB in AoE if I have BT off CD
can u explain to me why? I'm trying to learn been playing less than a month
smoky vale
does less damage
ionic bone
Thunderblast procs
shell dock
can somone clerify- im suppose to get to all 5 stacks or?
ionic bone
only spell that doesnt have 5 cap
shell dock
of the raging blow slaughting strikes
smoky vale
can somone clerify- im suppose to get to all 5 stacks or?
until you run out of rb
quiet breach
only spell that doesnt have 5 cap
so, BT is what procs thunder blast?
ionic bone
ofc
shell dock
until you run out of rb
and that goes for entire rotation
and over capping rage doesnt matter?
smoky vale
this is only for when you have buff from bladestorm
winter shoal
can somone clerify- im suppose to get to all 5 stacks or?
ONLY with the brutal finish buff, and you'll still rampage to refresh enrage even if you're only at like 2 slaughtering strikes
Personally I only do it when I'm out of reck because it feels bad to waste so much rage during reck
even if that's probably slightly worse
fringe kelp
Noob question, does sudden death stacks on fury too?
winter shoal
Yes
fringe kelp
Thanks
shell dock
ONLY with the brutal finish buff, and you'll still rampage to refresh enrage eve...
ah ok thank you
next pecan
ONLY with the brutal finish buff, and you'll still rampage to refresh enrage eve...
This caught me up ngl, I wasn't sure if I should still get enrage up while spamming RB or not
winter shoal
This caught me up ngl, I wasn't sure if I should still get enrage up while spamm...
There are close to 0 cases where you wouldn't rampage to refresh enrage if you have the rage to do so
next pecan
Yea seems obvious, just wasn't 100% sure
opal monolith
what kind of sim do u guys actually run for droptimizer, mountain thane m plus
shell dock
ONLY with the brutal finish buff, and you'll still rampage to refresh enrage eve...
its hard to get used to BT>execute at 35% lol
winter shoal
Execute sucks
shell dock
yea i got a bad habbit of pressing it since i main arms the most
winter shoal
Execute is mostly just an avenue for BS cdr
opal monolith
Always
when i sim dungeon slice it prefers haste alot more over mastery compared to patchwerl 1 target
so idk
winter shoal
dungeon slice is kinda fake
opal monolith
how comes
because its an unrealistic scenario , but isnt simming for 1 target for m plus also kinda botched?
winter shoal
because its an unrealistic scenario , but isnt simming for 1 target for m plus a...
Yes but also your aoe is basically just your single target anyways
shell dock
yea like ToP vs cinder mob count is WAY different
opal monolith
yes i was thinking that
regardless i need to get the fricking neck from cinder
never drops
did like 8 runs just now
😢
winter shoal
My whole guild has been chain pulling cinder
barren stone
did like 8 runs just now
my man i did 64 runs to get it
so you are in for a ride and a half
upbeat plume
I feel like sims are showing me the writing on the wall, is arms gonna scale really well with gear this tier? as every upgrade is just like 4x the raw value over fury for similar bis items
smoky vale
Both are good
elsa or echidna
fringe kelp
Is there big gap between WW and Slam as filler even on single target? I know slam is better but i hate slam so much i rather use WW if the difference is small
remote haven
Is there big gap between WW and Slam as filler even on single target? I know sla...
I only usw WW but I literally use it once or twice per fight
eager thorn
Is there big gap between WW and Slam as filler even on single target? I know sla...
The difference isnt big no
modest condor
life as a pugger
vast flare
Anyone know anything about curios I should be using for Underpin?
stoic star
Anyone know anything about curios I should be using for Underpin?
Theres Guides on Youtube.
For the normal difficulty you can play whatever. for the ??? im not sure. i havent done it yet. waiting to be more geared so i dont prog it for 50 pulls
vast flare
tbf I did mean for the ??. Ive done the ? one. I have googled at the curios it says I just dont have upgraded so im makeshifting it. Doesnt matter dw bout it
red berry
has been rough lmao
i pugged my way to 2710 aaaand now i seem to be hardstuck
i meant to message sil with that not myself
😭
craggy dirge
What does Dark Prayer give to warriors?
fervent wind
quiet breach
FUCK YES boys just completed my first +10
mythic track item inc fuck yeah
how many of them do i have to do to get 2 mythic track items in my vault?
i know i need 8 for 3
fervent wind
4
covert coyote
rare garnet
i sware i never swapped it and just did half my raid tonight with an int weapon
well then
learn something new every day
gilded pawn
There’s probably a weak aura for this
next gulch
Just how horrific is onslaught nowadays? It got a DMG buff right ?
heavy nacelle
imagine clearing an entire raid without noticing your weapon is int, my night would be ruined 🙂 parses forever tainted!!!
modest condor
Just how horrific is onslaught nowadays? It got a DMG buff right ?
onslaught was weak, then it got a 30% damage buff, meanwhile all our other abilities got a 40-50% damage buff
i think you can figure out the rest yourself
next gulch
heavy nacelle
which is a shame, becaue I'd love to use it, I like the icon 😛 I wanna smash mobs on the head with a big spiky iron ball!!
modest condor
i like how much rage it gives
just press onslaught and you're instantly rage capped
too bad it's undertuned af
next gulch
Yeah I only wanna use it cos it's fun bonk and low CD, just feels like devs forgot about the whole capskill for the entire expac
modest condor
it really does
not just the capstones btw
sidearms used to be like 2-3% of our damage
now it's <1%
wrecking throw is barely even worth using anymore even on shields
next gulch
My rotation feels more brainlet than ever rn
heavy nacelle
I like that, I feel like I can actually play the game instead of rotationcraft, on my rogue I couldn't even pay attention to fight mechanics
modest condor
that's funny because we have 2 weakauras just to deal with the conditions to press bloodthirst and execute
fervent wind
I do find it funny it's 2025 while Blizzard still implements mechanics that require tracking without baking it into the Ui
cosmic tapir
Somebody got a weekaura to track bloodthirst critchance?
quiet breach
just crafted my 675 wep 😄 question, can i put authority of the depths on it as well or does embellishment take the enchant slot? i have ascension
or ascendance i mean
modest condor
you can
keen vigil
that's funny because we have 2 weakauras just to deal with the conditions to pre...
Can you share the bloodthirst one please?
tidal kindle
New key meta?
tidal kindle
hallow sphinx
tidal kindle
west dagger
heya - any specific fight style to sim for m+?
haughty quest
the luxthos wa got updated for BT, does someone know if it is equally good as the linked on in this discord?
safe carbon
damn bladestorm is shit for both arms and fury
west dagger
sim 1 target
ty 🙂
tidal kindle
wat boss is this
Whole dungeon
errant vessel
swapped off fury this tier... might reconsider
iron portal
That is quite fortunate
iron portal
i meant to message sil with that not myself
See thats your problem
you need to make your own 12s, ver yfew people will invite warrior for anything above 11
lapis eagle
See thats your problem
not true i get into 13s not easy but...
smoky vale
swapped off fury this tier... might reconsider
its good for both
red berry
i have gotten into 12s. they just don't go anywhere
lmao
nearly timed a theater earlier but the tank just died
radiant plank
Broski playing 10% mastery
dense falcon
Btw guys, how does the new tier 4p bonuses change fury rotation? Got my 4p last night.
viral gulch
Btw guys, how does the new tier 4p bonuses change fury rotation? Got my 4p last ...
I asked the same yesterday and the answer is no, 2p is passive, 4p is a joke and spit in our faces
viral gulch
For me 4p is simming lower than 2+2 despite the fact that old pieces are 639
turbid bay
The set doesnt change much how you play
Is any fury players running arms for m+? it seems to be the way to go for the denser dungeons. My arms single target sim is 400k lower then fury though
potent thicket
yee....arms aoe better, fury st better in m+
and i cant figure the rotation for arms raid
fml
turbid bay
Isnt many fights with add cap though only stix
Which arms is probs decent there i havent simmed my arms true single target talent damage though its probably close to fury
I probably need the crit trink from floodgate to really push arms damage
stone merlin
Gladiators mace or axe?
gleaming siren
Which arms is probs decent there i havent simmed my arms true single target tale...
Do not play Arms on Stix
next ruin
What is this
My LFR jastor sims more than heroic bis ring 🙂
indigo arch
Regret giving an alt warbound veteran jastor after seeing what it simmed for, absolutely crushed my havocs random hero track ring
storm meadow
I just noticed we want the Mecano core as a trinket. Do we have a reliable way of farming it (in HC version preferrably) ?
radiant plank
delve map once a week and praying vault
storm meadow
No matter which vault I run ?
clever belfry
does not matter, no
radiant plank
has to be tier8 tho min
chrome summit
do you need coffer keys to get decent gear in delves , or it only provide extra chance? or will bountiful give decent gear? as the trinket is from there now
clever belfry
without coffer keys you will not get champ gear, no
a map can be used without a coffer key however
chrome summit
so first u need farm the keys then go delve , so boring farm this xD
last sparrow
i just do the 8 level 8's delves a week and do the map in one of those then wait till next week
use as many keys as i get each week
hollow elk
i do 11s cuz im a masochist i guess. makes delves less boring
last sparrow
i do the 8's just cause its the minimum and i can do something else while doin git
doing it*
hollow elk
probably should just do that. dont even need the crests. this guild im on drags me into 8 10s every tuesday lol
unreal onyx
The gold pile one is just free
I just do 8 8s and hope for trinket in vault
Use map and bountiful for chance at loot in it
But I ain't farming all bountiful ones
chrome plover
glad im done with delves 
chrome plover
one of the variants fucking sucks tho
bro it's fun
signal geyser
Dunno if im blind but Im looking to change the sound of the bloodthirst kaching weak aura but I cant for the life of me see where the sound is 😂 Anyone know where I should be looking?
next ruin
Actions
wispy bridge
What trinket should I use instead of eye of kezan in m+?
Mechano Core and the haste trinket from rik reverb?
karmic fiber
Do you guys feel like Furys current rotation feels weirdly bloated?
wispy bridge
I wouldnt say bloated but maybe the conditionals for execute and bloodthirst are not that obvious without WA imo
next ruin
Do you guys feel like Furys current rotation feels weirdly bloated?
Far from it
karmic fiber
When I last played BT was prio and raging blow was filler so im fighting against my muscle memory atm 😄
pine wagon
Does that tier list accurately put fury in b and arms in a? Whenever I sim I always show better results in fury but my gear is a mix of both.
summer quail
When I last played BT was prio and raging blow was filler so im fighting against...
that was along time ago xD
karmic fiber
Yeah it was, it was back in Legion LOL
summer quail
good times
pine wagon
I think it’s partly due to the 4 set being this or that which adds to conditional confusion lol
uncut stream
Hello there !
Did someone test any fury build with 2 1hand ?
karmic fiber
I don't even have the 4 set yet
summer quail
has nothing to do with 4 set. it's just bloodcraze and slaughtering strikes
karmic fiber
What feels weird is spamming raging blow
wispy bridge
Hello there !
Did someone test any fury build with 2 1hand ?
Its been tested and its not worth it
karmic fiber
Like after bladestorm even with max rage spamming raging blow feels weird, but thats what you do right?
wispy bridge
SMF is troll
wispy bridge
Nah you always rampage when you can no?
summer quail
Like after bladestorm even with max rage spamming raging blow feels weird, but t...
in raid for a decent amount of the fights yes. but doing so will give you less cdr
so if you need reck and bs back earlier you just press
karmic fiber
Yeah so if the timings dont line up you probbly give that up
To get recklessness for whatever you need
chrome plover
Mechano Core and the haste trinket from rik reverb?
house of cards probably
karmic fiber
But that depends on the fight I guess
chrome plover
but rik reverb trinket is p good
summer quail
like on rick reverb mythic. you just press rampage
otherwise you don't meet timings
wispy bridge
but rik reverb trinket is p good
if only I had it xD
chrome plover
well idk what you have
karmic fiber
I see
wispy bridge
ye ofc
summer quail
and in m+ we run mountain thane. so no issue there
karmic fiber
@summer quail Can you check your DM for a sec?
summer quail
i don't read dms
karmic fiber
Was gonna ask a few fury related things and not spam here 😄
summer quail
just spam here
karmic fiber
So in a purely single target scenario you just wanna spam raging blow below rage cap and only bt when above %85 chance to crit yeah?
And execute with sd depending on that condition
Even if you are going above rage cap
summer quail
yeahh, tho ofcourse lets say sd has 3 seconds remaining and you're high on rage you would rampage before
and when it comes to bt conditions i just follow the weakaura in #updates-midnight
karmic fiber
Yeah I got that wa
Just use it when it shines 😄
Also execute being so much lower prio feels weird too
smoky vale
hi mutou
karmic fiber
Gotta get used to all of this lol
summer quail
hi gio
smoky vale
i havent watched past where yamato is in the same room as kaido
and the 9 scabbards hit him
it might be over until pace releases episodes
i dont want to watch 1000 minutes of 1 piece
summer quail
honestly i think wano is kinda mid. don't blame you
some good fights but the arc is so long
thick fossil
Is my guild trolling me for assigning me to go soak energy on Rik Reverb?
thick fossil
I feel like it's a big loss of damage and danger of bad baiting pylons.
smoky vale
and on what difficulty
thick fossil
Mythic
chrome plover
Is my guild trolling me for assigning me to go soak energy on Rik Reverb?
well no, but also yes
smoky vale
and im in the 5th group
junior gale
Based Rik 3 tank strat is what we did
junior gale
smoky vale
pretty sure im the 1st melee group
chrome plover
tanks rotate to soak pylons
smoky vale
you 1 have tnak
junior gale
Don't ask me man
smoky vale
just soak all pylons
chrome plover
instead of players soaking pylons
smoky vale
lol
junior gale
Ask my raid lead
smoky vale
you have the tank
chrome plover
just soak all pylons
u cant do that anymore
junior gale
But we 3 tanked it
tender seal
Is my guild trolling me for assigning me to go soak energy on Rik Reverb?
How many times do you have to go soak?
smoky vale
why not
thick fossil
We have three tanks, but me and a DH have to take turns draining energy on a pylon.
chrome plover
but you can rotate
radiant plank
XD
smoky vale
We have three tanks, but me and a DH have to take turns draining energy on a pyl...
xddddddddddd
thick fossil
How many times do you have to go soak?
About twice
chrome plover
why not
stacks used to cap out at 15 (survivable) but they changed it to 99 (like 20+ is not survivable)
smoky vale
oh
thick fossil
So the off tank should be soaking the energy when not tanking? Cause the pylons never target them?
chrome plover
i think having 3 tanks rotating to do it is actually gonna be the normal strat
smoky vale
you can move into it press and keep casting
tender seal
i get firemages and bm hunters loose 0
thick fossil
3rd tank has first melee range pylon duty. Me and a DH have second. Rinse repeat for both directions.
smoky vale
melee lose more lol
tender seal
yeah fury looses 100% of your damage :p
thick fossil
I'll have to point this out to the raid lead.
chrome plover
tell them to add a 3rd tank and then no one has to lose damage :)
smoky vale
i think my raid was just whoever opens it opens it but we hard assigned to markers
lapis eagle
Guys what's ur overall in WORK 12-13 ?
tender seal
If you have issues killing the barrels, while having melee soak the antennas, then yeah.. if not then i dno.. it's annoying i agree, but if you dont have anyone else left to do it i dno.
junior gale
Yeah you break open pylon soak and fuck off
thick fossil
I think they're leaning on me cause I can do mechanics better than most, but the barrels need to die ASAP.
smoky vale
i think they are going about it wrong
because you cant have 1 person carry 19 others in mythic
you need to do mechanics
itll make reclear easier if they learn it anyways
radiant plank
our assigned drainers were healer mage mage warlock warlock boomie deva
plush ice
i drain one of the ones towards the end
radiant plank
- whoever went to open the pylon
plush ice
but it isn't unti like the very end of the fight, we probablly wont even get that one next week
thick fossil
Hmm, we have 2 locks, 1 mage, and 3 healers.
smoky vale
make rets do it
thick fossil
That fight must be so God damn simple for locks. Just turret up and hit everything.
smoky vale
then melee do last set
radiant plank
melees only do the ones they open
smoky vale
i didnt pay attention to that one lol
thick fossil
I can certainly see that greatly reducing the risk of bad pylon placement.
smoky vale
ill bring it up so we melee never have to do the ranged ones
lol
me and ish
were dorppign 5-10s everytime we had
because ranged were baiting
or something
lol
🙂
coarse nest
Same it feels impossible for me to get the am must dump rage mental under control
More practice though it’ll become natural
thick fossil
It feels like just a waste of rage to not send Ramp though.
tidal kindle
@ashen tendon
thick fossil
Especially when rampage can be hit twice in a row at times.
ashen tendon
no way its that simple
tidal kindle
Bro....
ashen tendon
heroic funhouse....
bitter palm
1:14 that piano 🔥
tidal kindle
Ok bro you have jastor and brew neck
bitter palm
crit vers ahh
tidal kindle
Stop yap
ashen tendon
took me 28 runs to get my pacemaker
and I've gotten cucked on eye of kezan twice
cuz my lootcouncil changed their mind last second
tidal kindle
Wait pacemaker isn't a guaranteed drop?
tidal kindle
ashen tendon
I was prio 1
then they saw spriest was gaming so he got it
then 2nd one dropped this week
and they decided mage was too op
so he got it
oblique trail
enchant your gear
tidal kindle
enchant your gear
No
oblique trail
-dkp
radiant plank
Guild not providing enchants
susge
with all the twitch primes I would say thats the least
ashen tendon
cant way to play colossus on one armed bandit tonight @tidal kindle
no more slayer gameplay
POGGIES
for 1 boss...
fervent yoke
60 rookerys saw 1 pair of legs drop and pally got them
hardy bluff
<@134176953291767808> https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/tarren-mill/Va...
🥄 like vrc?
ashen tendon
classic ark momnent
hardy bluff
i got funhouse lens atleast 
ashen tendon
fuck you
storm birch
tidal kindle
cant count as spooned when I have ass trinkets ark...
Can't believe you're so spooned and still complaining....
spare steppe
Are there any fights that lean arms more than fury? I know you can play whatever whenever, just enjoy both
hardy bluff
Can't believe you're so spooned and still complaining....
so true..
oblique trail
Are there any fights that lean arms more than fury? I know you can play whatever...
Bandit and Mugzee
That's about it
ashen tendon
Can't believe you're so spooned and still complaining....
BRUH
clever belfry
dont forget cauldrussy banuzzy
ashen tendon
I fucking hate garms
ashen tendon
ur off the homie list @tidal kindle
tidal kindle
You didn't even know my char name....
ashen tendon
true
oblique trail
You can also just play Fury on Cauldron and not care and still do respectable damage
radiant plank
noob
oblique trail
boss damage coper do not speak to me
clever belfry
You didn't even know my char name....
gfury
tidal kindle
ashen tendon
You can also just play Fury on Cauldron and not care and still do respectable da...
fake news
99% losing to 96
oblique trail
true spriest is also garbage
tidal kindle
663 equipped actually so looted
oblique trail
Or splat is just too good
clever belfry
fake news
i think i did more damage than that and i died during lust to first fiery waves
👍
(i am truely dogshit at this game)
oblique trail
So Anda is just bad
ashen tendon
i think i did more damage than that and i died during lust to first fiery waves
as fury?
clever belfry
armus
ashen tendon
ah ye
ashen tendon
I'm gonna play arms tommorow
radiant plank
is noober?
oblique trail
rank 2 is the first loser
ashen tendon
I blame my trinkets
sudden tusk
more like garms one and garmspoo
radiant plank
Turbo drain 5000
ashen tendon
truly a goated trinket
radiant plank
reaöl
ashen tendon
old and shit
oblique trail
washedup
clever belfry
üüüüüüüü
clever belfry
ßßßßß
ashen tendon
@clever belfry have u been warned
ashen tendon
clever belfry
no
ashen tendon
gg ur safe
clever belfry
ive been told by my gm that i shouldnt be so snarky this tier tho
ashen tendon
hm...
clever belfry
oh that happens every tier
uhhh
it kinda is
i can think of one person he might have told this to
oblique trail
If Anda ever told me a strat I would deliberately not follow it
clever belfry
If Anda ever told me a strat I would deliberately not follow it
okay
this is false
oblique trail
Is it though
clever belfry
yeah
ashen tendon
guys
why does my ret and hunter alt both do more dps in keys than my warrior
perkele
hardy bluff
bad at warrior?
ashen tendon
maybe I'm just a superstar hunter and ret player
sudden tusk
my hunter 5ilvl behind does more overall then my warrior in aoe keys
ashen tendon
the only time my warrior does more than my hunter is when I dont ever proc lock n load on big pulls
and my 4set gets 0 value
sudden tusk
but could just be group comp
silent swift
Fury to me is so much more confusing than arms 😞
thick fossil
but could just be group comp
Or target caps.
fringe kelp
Fury to me is so much more confusing than arms 😞
from someone who mained arms and played arms and tried fury now, this is literally not possible
thick fossil
At this point they need to remove target caps on roar, spear, ravager/bladestorm, and Odyn's Fury. Than buff most of them so we actually have something to compete in these dungeons.
ashen tendon
from someone who mained arms and played arms and tried fury now, this is literal...
sir ur brain is not the same as everyone elses
fringe kelp
sir ur brain is not the same as everyone elses
fair enough
dull compass
if my trinkets are 652 and i get a 655 drop shouldnt i be able to upgrade my trinkets with just valorstones?
silent swift
from someone who mained arms and played arms and tried fury now, this is literal...
It definitely is, you have BT Conditionals, Exe conditionals, CD reduction on more abilities
dull compass
or is that for everything except trinkets