fury

[rotund ginkgo]

LITERALLY the best fury warrior in the world btw

cant break 4m overall

WE ARE COOKED

[dense elbow]

wdum, he did 4.41m

[radiant plank]

Cluegi deluxe

reducing MW damage

[dense elbow]

[rotund ginkgo]

what dung was it

@dense elbow

[dense elbow]

If I remember correctly, it was a cinder16

Fury cant do content

[rotund ginkgo]

xd

[chrome plover]

Need to attribute mystic touch too and motw 🤓

monk doing giga dam in that comp

[feral mauve]

Is there a raidbots custom command that disables all 2h's from droptimizer, i'm trying to live the smf meme dream

[chrome plover]

also mw isn’t getting that much from battle shout

[chrome plover]

[feral mauve]

:3

[chrome plover]

two good cantrip 2hs

it’s joever

[feral mauve]

i made my 2nd warrior during remix, and i had a friend convince me to start gearing my them as my alt as SMF, so i'm not going to let them down !

[chrome plover]

god speed brother

idk how to exclude 2hs from droptimiser but I’m sure it’s doable

you could just slam em all into the gear compare part of top gear

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/how-about-no-sloth-chill-nope-no-gif-6121955

[hushed relic]

so on BiS gear list [Charged Claymore] is listed as Versatility/Mastery for secondary stats. Are those really what I should focus on putting on the weapon?

[dense elbow]

Slayer buffs when?

Blizz hello?

pretty good

[flat escarp]

No, sim it

[indigo sigil]

good boy

[dense elbow]

The one to the left is the real one

[simple shell]

- Bloodthirst if at 4 or more Bloodcraze stacks (or 85% crit)

Is there anyway to track 85% crit on bloodthirst?

[dense elbow]

weakaura should be noted

[tight roost]

Wasnt there a wa just recently posted for this?

[clever path]

That’s only if you have every other item on the bis list, that applies to every item also, each one assumes you have the rest. Just sim every item as you get them to see what’s best

[tight roost]

Another q, for ST slayer using Berserkers torment, is it better to not macro recklessness and avatar?

[hybrid snow]

any weak auras to handle this gacha bullshit set piece bonus?

[dense elbow]

keep em seperated, but keep a "big dam" button with trinky and everything if you want

just have the option to press them seperate

[tight roost]

I think saw someone saying pretend it doesnt exist

[dense elbow]

It is a pure passive, ignore it, you get more value from tracking Gushing Woudns

[tight roost]

Roger, but macroing both misses up on uptime compared to staggering them, right?

[hybrid snow]

im using thane AM. it's not the best one anymore in m+?

[dense elbow]

Depends on what you are doing, you can spread the free avatar around from the main avatar. You can use reck-charge and so on

[dense elbow]

As far as I know, it is, I can give it a check

[hybrid snow]

thanks m8

[clever path]

Last I checked the powerful enrage was stronger but that could have changed recently, if have to look again as well

[fervent yoke]

I have the Bloodthirst weak aura and execute weak aura both use the “Ka-Ching” sound effect. Started raid last night and realized that the BT sound effect stopped working. Can you have two weak auras that use the same sound effect?

[dense elbow]

AM thane is still used by the top dogs

[clever path]

Yep exactly why it’s always good to check stuff

[rotund ginkgo]

FIRST RUN

+CHEST TO CATALYZE

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[dense elbow]

you can, but they will not play the sound if one is already running. So if an overlap happens, one is not heard

[rotund ginkgo]

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-lets-goo-gif-11742735383203550293

[fervent yoke]

Ahhh okay makes sense Ty

[rotund ginkgo]

FIRST RUN + TANK GAVE ME CHESTPIECE TO CATALYZE

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

639 CHEST TO 658

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOO

[dense elbow]

I am happy for ya

now stop being bad dps

[hybrid snow]

[rotund ginkgo]

i will still be

[simple shell]

how high priority is spending rampage with AM at +90% rage? I see 4x SIS stacks, but its not on the same level?

[rotund ginkgo]

bad dps

:3

[rotund ginkgo]

always send ramp above 80

for AM

[simple shell]

ok ty

is 2 charges of rb higher prior than BT under 35% health? Asking because warbreaker says 35% BT is high priority

[eager thorn]

pog vault

[rotund ginkgo]

@vale dove its been foretold

after acquiring trinkie

[tardy lark]

whether you do one or the other is not gonna matter much as you are gonna RB before you can rampage again just making your next BT have a higher crit chance

I tried to simplify it on warbreaker somewhat, but its hard to make it for everyone

[simple shell]

ok ty 🙂

[old patio]

noob question - i have 2 set piece of the new set and 2 from the old one atm, do they work both at the same time?

[simple shell]

Can I ask if running AM puts rampage at higher priority than BT/RB if ur about to overcap rage? if enrage is up

[vale dove]

mwhahaha

Good shiz

[rotund ginkgo]

1 run

is all it took

chest upgrade from 639 to 658 + trinket drop

warr tank didnt need the chest and traded

[tardy lark]

you ramp if you are capping rage (unless you just bladestormed and have brutal finish up, then you rb til 0 which is cringe as f)

[simple shell]

oh ok ty

[vale dove]

ez game

[tired root]

guys for hc raid atm what bosses would u go fury and what arms to do max

[tardy lark]

Fury for everything but cauldron i guess

[tired root]

aah cool, is it possible to swipe gorila and raptor when they come close ?

[tardy lark]

yes, hitboxes are very large

[tired root]

so stay on oposite boss i was and just SS

[tardy lark]

or hit same boss as you did and swap when they leave

or is that a mythic mechanic

i auto pilot so much during splits man

[tired root]

ah i am on hc still

but i got it

[chilly fractal]

2 weeks in a row seeing a Heroic Best in slots drop… Myth track weapon will be in the vault next week for sure.

[lapis eagle]

did u pick it ?

[rotund ginkgo]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/13R12ePVUgUDDzWfDkYbf3

new sim who dis

[chilly fractal]

Nah went to a feral last week and a dev Voker this week

[whole yacht]

Same dude

[chilly fractal]

I make the argument the Voker should’ve crafted a weapon and crafting 2 embellishments is just tanking your weapon sim

[whole yacht]

Went to a dev voker last week and a BDK this week ;-;

[chilly plume]

no LC?

[whole yacht]

This WAS LC

[chilly plume]

is the bdk on it

or sleeping with someone on it

[lapis eagle]

[whole yacht]

Idk man.

[chilly fractal]

Blood DK prolly was sandbagging their sim

Not crafting a weapon or upgrading one

[lapis eagle]

i got from vault so ..

[whole yacht]

I don't get good items from vault

[lapis eagle]

2k rio wari was flexing circuit breaker mythic track with avoid from 1 10+ he did...

[last sparrow]

i took hc BiS from vault today

[coarse nest]

Don’t worry my guild gave a house of cards to a warlock who showed up to raid with a 600ilvl trinket equipped

It happens everywhere

[lapis eagle]

[coarse nest]

Warriors get shafted

[chilly fractal]

Nothing boils my blood like sandbagging or 0 effort so everything’s a super upgrade compared to anyone else

[coarse nest]

And get this that same warlock wasn’t on first 2 mythic roster either

I totally agree why do I not get best in slot items just because I farm M+ all week

Lazy shouldn’t be rewarded

[lapis eagle]

yeah but not all guild rosters spam m+

so they gotta catch up in a way

[chilly fractal]

600 ilvl trinket lock just doesn’t play the game

[coarse nest]

For context, the following week house of cards went to mage who claimed it “simmed for 70k” when I fact checked him it was 20k and I was second in line at 38k Kek

Got dogged on that trinket so far this tier

[lapis eagle]

that's extreme 🤣

[coarse nest]

Normally I don’t bitch to much about loot but like bruh

[summer quail]

big

[coarse nest]

Looted a signet last night so rip me ever getting house of cards this tier

[lapis eagle]

HOC is my biggest upgrade also i have hero track skarmorak...

let's see what pepega in my guild gets it

if it drops

[chilly fractal]

I’m using Pacemaker and Mechano-Core… I’m like 5th in line or further for a House of Cards

[coarse nest]

Yooo in a vault like that I feel like you take mechano no?

[tribal dune]

Our first HoC went to a prot paladin 😊

[coarse nest]

That’s also trash

Like HUH

[oblique trail]

Giving HoC to anything but a DPS the first few times is insane

[tribal dune]

Yeah not great

[lapis eagle]

even torqs is an upgrade but cba 2 minute cd doesn't line with avatar

[summer quail]

yee no doubt about it. gonna do a map delve first tho and see if i get lucky. coz then i take eye of kezan hc

[coarse nest]

Glgl !!

[chilly fractal]

Prot pally isn’t a DPS? /s

[coarse nest]

This resto Druid from my old guild

[chilly fractal]

Kill me

[rugged arch]

gave it to disc, performs insane

[coarse nest]

Got the first heroic best in slots

[lapis eagle]

😅

[coarse nest]

Oh I didn’t block out the guild

Don’t flame please just hilarious

[lapis eagle]

must be a she wife of the gm or smth

[whole yacht]

Mechano > eye?

[coarse nest]

Yeah heroic mechano all day

Eye isn’t that desirable tbh

[rare garnet]

Did someone say <Heroic Best in Slot>?

[summer quail]

especially since i already have normal eye of kezan

[thick fossil]

A druid in my guild got it first as well. Week later they learned that you can use the on use part as well as it triggering.

[coarse nest]

[whole yacht]

Why is eye not that desirable? Thought it was our bis?

[thick fossil]

For raid

[coarse nest]

It is very good for specifically long fights where you don’t die

[rare garnet]

Falls off hard on short fights idk I think eye is super overrated

[thick fossil]

It's not very good for M+ cause the stacks can fall off.

[whole yacht]

So what would you say trinkets are better? HoC and mechano?

[coarse nest]

Yes absolutely

That’s what I will be running if I can ever aquire it

[summer quail]

it is our bis in raid, but is also pretty common to see

[thick fossil]

HoC, mechano, Pacemaker, fun house lens

[whole yacht]

I see.

[rare garnet]

I’m a passive simp give me a mechano and energy drink.

[coarse nest]

Yep! Those are the ones osaliske

[thick fossil]

Even signet of the priory is good.

[coarse nest]

I’ve got a signet now but I don’t care for it much on arms

It’d be better if I was maining fury

[thick fossil]

Yeah

[coarse nest]

It gives me Crit as arms witch is great but it’d probably give mastery as fury and that’s what makes it strongest

[thick fossil]

I honestly don't feel mastery very much as Arms.

[coarse nest]

Well yeah deep wounds damage goes soft

At the end of the day whatever sims highest

[thick fossil]

I mean I just don't see much pay off of the bonus damage we're supposed to be doing to targets with deep wounds on them.

[jade cipher]

i honestly think second wind should give passive movement speed if oyu have been out of combat for like 30 second

walking in raids is so painful as warrior

took me 3 minutes just to walk to gallywix

[jade cipher]

literaly every other class was ahead

[coarse nest]

Just drop second wind for fast footwork

Let the healers work .2% more

[jade cipher]

i have fastfootwork but i'm saying we need something

for adventure kind of content

[jade cipher]

not everything in wow is warcraftlogs and numbers

[coarse nest]

Imagine we just had 49% speed out of combat always

Man that’d be so good

[rare garnet]

Take that back

[thin cliff]

true - there's also transmog

[dense elbow]

Transmogs are just a bunch of 1 and 0, so still numbers

[eager thorn]

i get p close on my zandalari troll

speed loa buff, speed algari gem + enchants

zoooooom

[coarse nest]

My lvl 11 xp locked warrior has 49%

I’m zoomin!

[coarse nest]

Bro this is smart I might actually do this!

[eager thorn]

just feels really nice

[coarse nest]

Can avoid damage with speed who needs the stat

Classic

[eager thorn]

prob isnt optimal dps but who cares when ur fast

[coarse nest]

Based

[rare garnet]

Druid in cat form: look what they need to mimic our power meme

[tired root]

guys does fury slayer use execute ? or its not prio

[coarse nest]

It replaces slam in the prio

[summer quail]

did not get trinket. these boots are pretty good tho

[ancient olive]

I see that a pretty high amount of talent builds of cauldron of carnage on at least heroic use improve whirlwind, why is this? Is it literally just for the period where they clash?

Is it worth it overall to use the points for that short period of aoe?

[summer quail]

yes

[tardy lark]

going from st to aoe talents as fury is very minor dps loss

[ancient olive]

I can see that

[eager thorn]

Ye

[ancient olive]

Yeah fury warriors st feels p limiting, so I guess it’s only worth using on bosses where there is literally one target

[eager thorn]

On myth you’re prob getting like 3 clashes which is a minute of cleave

[ancient olive]

I’d been using single target, as a lot of the bosses I’ve done so far didn’t quite seem to be “cleave” but it’s probably not worth it nd might go smoother if I use the multi more

[tardy lark]

the only boss you arent playing the WW talents on is sprocket

[ancient olive]

Makes sense

[tardy lark]

maybe rik on hc

dont think he has adds on hc, but i forget

[eager thorn]

He does

But they disappear a lot quicker

[lapis eagle]

what u remove for meat cleaver and imp whirl deft experience or vicous contempt ?

[eager thorn]

Neither

[ancient olive]

He has barrels that I find are worth using cleave on

[eager thorn]

Prob ashen jug and smth else

[summer quail]

mugzee on hc

[tardy lark]

there are adds on mugzee hc

[summer quail]

yeah but not worth imo

[eager thorn]

Idk the adds are on boss a few times

[tardy lark]

i dont think opinion matters here

[eager thorn]

Feels worth to take especially since they dont die too quickly

[tardy lark]

unless you somehow get some godly BS lineups i think just the slightest amount of cleave makes ww talents worth it

[summer quail]

mugzee top 100, not many run ww talents

[tardy lark]

what is more concerning is the 3% not running VC

[summer quail]

oh for sure xD

[tardy lark]

but i guess you might be right 🤷

[quiet geyser]

Ww talents for mugz hc is pretty dookie

[tardy lark]

is that good or bad

[radiant plank]

fury for mugz is pretty doogshit

[quiet geyser]

Bad lol

[summer quail]

truu, but atleast no 15 juggernaut stacks

[junior gale]

skill issue clearly. Just have 15 stacks the whole fight how hard can it be

[quiet breach]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/the-war-within-season-2-dps-rankings-mythic-liberation-of-undermine-week-2-375976

[dire vigil]

Not dogshit

[fervent yoke]

Does anyone use both the bloodthirst weak aura and execute weak aura? They both use the “kaching” sound effect but the BT one isn’t working I only hear the execute one working

[viral gulch]

Does anyone have a good WA for winning streak and both double down variants?

[next ruin]

What do you do as slarms on this fight, cooldowns and cooldown (hold avatar for lust I guess), focus boss and sweeping strike adds when they are up and that's it? No secret strat?

[radiant plank]

yeah

[eager thorn]

Ignore tier set

You dont play around it

[next ruin]

Do you think fury for bandit is troll also? I played the fight as fury and it felt decent
Same for mugzee, is it bad solely because of lusting during exec + no bursting adds ?

[cursive quiver]

Ez vault pick

[oblique trail]

ratfang

[radiant plank]

idk hc whatever

but considering both are 2t fights

thats kind of arms thing

[compact siren]

Ratfang angle

[pine jewel]

The bloodthirst wa doesn’t use the master channel but dialog or something so if u have that muted it doesn’t work

[simple shell]

I feel like my AoE burst is dogwater I have to do something wrong I cant go above 8m dps 🤣

[fervent yoke]

I didn’t mute either, I think since they both have the same sound effect ones just not playing

[pine jewel]

Nah it played both sounds for me. One wasn’t as loud as it was a different channel. Go to the weakaura into conditions and check for both the first and last condition which channel is defined and set it to master

[runic cypress]

Is this the worst vault you haver ever seen or what

[next ruin]

By the time I'll be on them on mythic it won't matter I guess

[graceful ruin]

so rampage has a 15% chance to end winning streak per cast and not per hit right?

that would be kinda stupid

[viral gulch]

2p is fully passive, but i was thinking should i track 4 piss effects, so the answer is no 😄

[fervent yoke]

Copy that thank you for your help

[quiet breach]

are the cantrip weapons Best in Slots and Capital Punisher?

is there other ones

what does cantrip mean

[gilded pawn]

Cantrip means a weapon with some minor effect on them

In this context

[fiery harbor]

meh just take the myth chest and catalyst it. good enough

[runic cypress]

Obviously i was just hoping for a myth weapon or pacemaker

[fiery harbor]

rip

[gilded pawn]

Not even close to the worst vault

[runic cypress]

I guess i can finally go 2p+2p with the myth chest

[quiet breach]

is there any cantrip weapons in the game for fury warriors besides bis or capital punisher for season 2

[chilly fractal]

If there is 1 bis piece of gear it’s a good vault - Myth chest to catalyze checks that box

[chilly fractal]

No

[oblique trail]

Technically yes from delves, but it's not noteworthy because you can only get it at max hero track

[chilly fractal]

Oh shit I forgot delve weapons

But yea none on myth track

[quiet breach]

mythic track dungeon 2 hander from vault > heroic track best in slots?

what about heroic track capital punisher

[oblique trail]

Capital punisher is basically equivalent to any other equal ilvl weapon

It's really nothing special

[coarse nest]

I have hero punisher and the weapon effect is quite underwhelming

They’d have to buff it by like 200%

Out of 1B dps to vexie mythic it did 8million

[quiet breach]

would u take any mythic track dungeon 2 hander over a heroic BiS tho

[pulsar quest]

Yes

[oblique trail]

If I hadn't already crafted a weapon, then yes

[pulsar quest]

Myth weapon + crafted 2h (or double mythic weapon) is bis until mythic BiS

[gilded pawn]

It’s weak because you don’t lose secondaries for it

[oblique trail]

But since I've now crafted a weapon, I'd be inclined to at least consider a HC BiS

[tardy lark]

imagine not having hc bis

smh

[quiet breach]

is the cantrip effect really valuable as an offhand?

[pulsar quest]

If I didn’t have a myth offhand I got from last nights stix kill I would definitely go for heroic bis

[oblique trail]

Will prob kill one armed this week though, depending on if we're very efficient with prog, so I likely will never have to think about it again 👍

[pulsar quest]

But crafted + myth is pretty good

[oblique trail]

Or get a good bit of the way there

[lilac plinth]

What spec u guys play for brew and psf ?

Being under the tank not good

[oblique trail]

If you're under the tank, you're doing something wrong

[lilac plinth]

As fury

[next ruin]

Banezi do you have any cd usage / timing tips for vexxie? Ik it doesn't matter but it tilts me that I never do the fight "correctly"

[pulsar quest]

Just send everything on cd on that fight

[tardy lark]

bro you just send that shit on cd

[oblique trail]

I don't really no

Just look on lorrgs

I only held CDs a bit if I knew intermission was about to happen

And then blast more burst on the adds

(this is very important)

[tardy lark]

then kindly ask your tanks to pull boss to wall when bikes come and yell at all the other idiots padding on adds

[pulsar quest]

We don’t even move boss the

Tbh

Just sits in the middle

Oil off to the side

[oblique trail]

I got a good parse by just pressing buttons really though

[pulsar quest]

So I just let my shit rip on cd

[oblique trail]

Didn't really think much about when to use

[tardy lark]

we dont either, but you have to ditch boss if you want to hit bikes

[simple shell]

is it worth going bikes over boss for parse? 😄

[potent thicket]

what addons's that

[oblique trail]

That's just warcraftlogs

[potent thicket]

o, thanks

[oblique trail]

It'll appear if you sort by a specific spec on any boss

[radiant plank]

cd's on cd

does wonders to your parse

[simple shell]

do they swap to adds? frenzy vs adds in execute

[shell wigeon]

Esp when other people are holding for adds and they just blow up

[next ruin]

I was dry each second phase and felt like a dumbass

[winter shoal]

Consider this: cds nuts

[tidal kindle]

8

[next ruin]

Madman

[summer quail]

idk, i didn't when i got my rank

[gleaming siren]

zhest

[clever belfry]

zjest

[clever belfry]

chest/leg/helmet

is optimal 2nd craft

for 99% of people during prog

i dont make the rules

[gleaming siren]

People are actually

way too focussed on whatever "BiS"

[clever belfry]

but my bis in 16 weeks!!!!!

it has bracers!!!!!!!!!

[gleaming siren]

they're aiming for

[clever belfry]

i NEED TO CRAFT BRACERS

(lose 5000 str)

its not that much

its just 2500

but you get the point

[gleaming siren]

rather decent amount of str

[next ruin]

You already have myth weps ?

[tidal kindle]

I needed craft wep

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/692179640000970862/986743029564072046/super-ra-happy-ga-undu-happy-ga-undu.gif

[chrome plover]

i crafted 675 cloak 🤡

[clever belfry]

LLLLLL

[chrome plover]

not sure what came over me

[hardy bluff]

cloak craft is actual feed

might aswell not craft

[chrome plover]

well no..

[undone flower]

[chrome plover]

going from 639 cloak to 675 was surprisingly better than not crafting

[clever belfry]

myth wep + BIS

[chrome plover]

but it was not a good decision

[hardy bluff]

craft a bigger slot

[chrome plover]

well i already implied crafting something else would be better yes

but it's still better than not crafting anything...

[undone flower]

I crafted a cloak betting I’ll get a wep I’m regretting and want to end

(Bdk)

[chrome plover]

oh i got a weapon from first vault otherwise i woulda held sparks

[next ruin]

Yea 2 675 might be better than a 675 wep I guess, I had hc weps so I did a weapon

[clever belfry]

read again

[chrome plover]

for fury crafting a 675 weapon would still be better but i am playing arms a bit too

double dusk thread is fine but i defo shoulda crafted a higher value slot first

[next ruin]

?

[tidal kindle]

🧑‍🍼

[chrome plover]

real

[graceful elk]

If I have Best in Slots and the capital punisher at 658 do I still need to craft a max level weapon or is it not worth

[chrome plover]

it's probably your best option to craft

the extra ilvls is a lot better than the effects from those weapons

[graceful elk]

Damn I feel like that’s so lame lol got two great drops and it’s still better to craft

[chrome plover]

u should sim a crafted 675 weapon so you can see the diffy

[graceful elk]

I did I think it was like 57k or something so I wasn’t sure if that was too wor to it

[chrome plover]

i dont think 2 off pieces with duskthread is gonna beat 57k, it's also bumped up a bit by crafting a writhing armour banding next week

[edgy widget]

very contextual, chest is the biggest contender here since it drops from Mugz, but helm and leg drop from early bosses

I got chest from vault, so I don't need any of them, but I also didn't get a weapon so I had to craft that

[clever belfry]

legs drop "early" as token

[edgy widget]

weapon is gonna win yeah

[clever belfry]

cata legs are mug aswell

[edgy widget]

token legs are good though

[radiant plank]

Just kill sprocket for chest lmao lol even

[clever belfry]

tokens can go to other classes easily too however

less so with cata pieces

[edgy widget]

at this point yeah probably

offset pieces can also go to other classes, depending on your raid makeup it may not be that diff

lmao @radiant plank getting himself timed out

what a nooooob

[gilded pawn]

Oh nah

[edgy widget]

apparently he crafted like an idiot

[gilded pawn]

I’m still proud of my own time out

[radiant plank]

Coulda atleast removed the timeout ...

[edgy widget]

I could have, but then how would you learn?!

[clever belfry]

noober

[radiant plank]

Surely I get zenith chest prio from sprocket cuz I crafted like a idiot and only have a normal chest on me

[tidal kindle]

No timeout evading with screenshot

Noober

[radiant plank]

:madge

[edgy widget]

right? he should get another timeout for that tbh

[radiant plank]

Can I have my dent role back

[tidal kindle]

Archis perms

[radiant plank]

...

[edgy widget]

https://tenor.com/view/sussa-gif-5432297967573209335

[quiet breach]

Im pretty sure the only people that aren't crafting wep first are hof guild gamers right?

[radiant plank]

weapon craft makes more sense the higher wr u are

[quiet breach]

and even then they do sometimes

[manic gulch]

hello, got a question about dracthyr warrior

[clever belfry]

why drac specifically

[manic gulch]

is it not worth instead of getting knocked back and using charge to go back in with the energy from charge to cancel the knockback with the double jump

[clever belfry]

if u dont get myth wep from stix/box u just craft wep

[manic gulch]

and not have any downtime ?

[edgy widget]

unless you get really lucky vault and/or stix drops, weapon is good in general cause you save 60 crests

arguably the more Myth track loot you're getting from raid, the better crafting a weapon could be, since saving those crests means more overall upgrades

[manic gulch]

because they can cancel knockbacks

[edgy widget]

but Anda is also right - if you don't get those pieces from the vault, there are a few slots that are hard to fill early (chest being chief among them), so crafting there is not necessarily a bad idea

[clever belfry]

(do a massive craft sim to figure this out)

but i think zentih is just more contested than plate this tier

plate is just eh?

[edgy widget]

Helm is the odd one out; if you really wanna optimize, you'll just farm M+ forever until you get a natural socket drop

[clever belfry]

i did that in amirdrassil

not doing that again

👍

[edgy widget]

I just got lucky w/ a normal tier piece for tmog

[clever belfry]

5/6 hero moment

[edgy widget]

but 658 socket is still worth

[clever belfry]

normal items are very good this time

[next ruin]

Got mythic set part helm first vault

[clever belfry]

i got a hole first vault 👍

got a wep 2nd tho so is all g

[radiant plank]

Holed helmet first and wep 2nd

still not as gearead as anda

[clever belfry]

holed my revvez bracers

[edgy widget]

if you have a min/maxy raid comp, zenith is prob more contested
if you're in an "average" guild that still uses your DKs and Rets though, maybe not

my situation is kinda unique cause we have several ret and dks we rotate through, MW monks rarely get gear before DPS, and our Rogue is only ok, so I often get prio on Zenith while plate is a lot more contested

[clever belfry]

i just get prio cause im always i n

:real:

[edgy widget]

I mean that too

we can't ever manage to keep a second warrior

[radiant plank]

i dont get prio because im not him

[clever belfry]

im him

👍

we have a 2nd warrior and ill just hand the reigns to him

[unreal onyx]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jRVqMxYxLwE2QSQhjekYRq

is eye of kezan really not that good?

[gleaming siren]

What do you even run yea

2 tanks, maybe an HPal and then? Just your warriors

[clever belfry]

youre getting 4pc from the vault

[gleaming siren]

DK DPS if you're frisky

[restive peak]

Feels sim trappy to me

[clever belfry]

2 tanks 2 warriors maybe a ret

hpal is bad

[wind haven]

Hi, should I prioritize using Bloodthirst when I get Burst of Power procs?

[clever belfry]

hpal kills ur raids peformance

fix wing 2025

[slender quail]

between this ring and hero pacemaker what could be more valuable in long term? I have a champion pacemaker tho.. I already simmed it and ring sims higher but only because my ring is utterly dogshit

[gleaming siren]

Doesnt stop guilds from playing their onetricks

[clever belfry]

best hpal eu

wcyd

sorry world

[unreal onyx]

as in, it's actually better than sims?

[dense elbow]

You make me sad

[gleaming siren]

On relevant mythic encounters

almost definitely

Lockenstock is still a 6:30 bossfight realistically

For most guilds

[quiet breach]

do u get anything extra in the raid from having a dps warr in the raid if u have a prot warr

[gleaming siren]

even if you kill early

[restive peak]

As in it's like useful for Locken/1 Arm/Mugzee/Gally

But also if you die

It's dogshit

[gleaming siren]

Just dont die

[restive peak]

It's useless for quicker fights+M_

[gleaming siren]

4head

[restive peak]

Just live 5head

[lime crag]

Should I take a mythic ring or a heroic tier and use catalysts to get 4p heroic? Cant sim because I don’t have the pieces. Feelscraft tells me tier, id replace 639 pieces

[dense elbow]

just chainpull, ez uptime

[unreal onyx]

so weap is eh, as I want best in slots, and shoulders would be used for all of S2

[restive peak]

Problem is the amount of fuckin run time in these dungeons

Lol

[unreal onyx]

but idk about trink

cloak is also haste/mast myth track

[dense elbow]

You can search up items and add to your sims, even if you dont have them :)

[edgy widget]

an extra Rally
so no, not really

[unreal onyx]

so many choices that are actually good but none that are giga

[edgy widget]

ring is kind of a weak craft, since the free socket isn't important anymore and one of your rings is taken up by Siren anyway
unless all your other gear is fantastic and you just have zero luck with M+ ring drops (unlikely with how many there are), I probably would look to fill a different slot

Sorry misread, thought you asked if you should craft a ring

[dense elbow]

It is right under the currency part and above the main one for gear

[unreal onyx]

archi, eye is listed as bis, but it sims not really that great. is it a simtrap?

[edgy widget]

also if you're talking about vault stuff you can sim that before looting anything; just open the vault once and it'll show up in your /simc

[edgy widget]

eye of kezan? idk it's pretty strong

[unreal onyx]

are my trinkets just goated or why is it only a 5k dps upgrade?

or more of an aoe kinda trinket

[edgy widget]

you're making 4p w/ shoulders

[dense elbow]

Your trinkets are quite stonks

A lot better than mud and stuff I got

[unreal onyx]

I mean, I will get 4p with a catalyst charge too

so shoulders are a "safe" option

[edgy widget]

yeah but the sim doesn't know that

and as weak as Fury 4p is, it's still a couple %

[unreal onyx]

but sim has this only as a 5k upgrade

[elfin belfry]

The eye has also been going lower and lower on my priority list in sims after every upgrade and new piece I get. I just assume it'll go back up when (or if) I get an on use... I think...

[unreal onyx]

without any regard of the shoulders

[edgy widget]

5k is 5k, it's still better

[unreal onyx]

but blue is variance, no?

[edgy widget]

no

[unreal onyx]

upgrade yes, but not really that big

[wind haven]

Does anyone know or can point me somewhere where they'd know?

[next ruin]

I have the exact same trinkets set up, and it was like a 2% upgrade from season 1 trinkets
Doesn't seem that strong to me

[wind haven]

I don't see it mentioned on the wowhead nor maxroll guides

[quiet breach]

guys, if I don't have enough guilded crests to craft a wep before Friday raid

I am going to be VERY SAD

I wish I could get accepted to +7 groups

[restive peak]

I have a reg kezans, not sold on it

[edgy widget]

that's your answer

[dense elbow]

S1 Trinkies, the 1.5m mastery and egg, mythic, still is my best ones - and I got mythic track trinket :v

[restive peak]

I think cards is extremely good for most of these fights

[edgy widget]

you can get some from Delves as well

[frank dawn]

Even when Kezan's ramps it's just barely better than other good trinkets

[quiet breach]

so I don't have the stress of leavers ruining my key and not even being able to get the 8 crests for an untimed run

[edgy widget]

Cards is a great trinket

[restive peak]

And mechano core is fuckin busted dude

[frank dawn]

so meh

[wind haven]

so no prioritization and follow the general rules for using bloodthrists mentioned there

[edgy widget]

the only thing that pushes cards down is BiS, since it has a shared ICD with on use trinkets

[quiet breach]

oh yeah that reminds me, my house of cards keeps getting desynced from my avatar. is that because of the void emissary buff?

wasn't happening in m+ before this week

[restive peak]

Still BISless yolo

[edgy widget]

yeah

[restive peak]

Fuckin shit luck

[frank dawn]

yes

[olive grail]

Yo could anyone explain how the 4 set works for me and if/how it changes the rotation? I’m just a Druid main

[edgy widget]

it doesn't, aside from occasionally giving you more BT crit, which is already accounted for in the Bloodthirst weakaura #1237307732705415228

[neat gazelle]

Is your overall damage higher if you use keybinds and not click? lol

I’m a clicker and my finger is throbbing

😂

[restive peak]

BRO WUT

Yes

[edgy widget]

theoretically no, but practically yeah probably - keybinds are a lot faster, so you're much less likely to miss actions

especially considering how fast Fury plays

[restive peak]

Keybinds are a necessity for fury imo

[tidal kindle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/740638085796069408/1019745149791776768/clicker.gif?width=582&height=112

[neat gazelle]

I have a naga in route to my house now

[restive peak]

LMAO

[rich veldt]

eye of kezan over anythin in vault (even when u can make a 662 tier piece? already got 4set)

[frank dawn]

I want to see the clicker prodigy, he who's mouse has become merely extension of their thoughts

[rich veldt]

i guess?

[restive peak]

The Garms special dawg

[dense elbow]

Clicker prot warrior?

[next ruin]

https://youtu.be/wqpsuNE3Fic?t=1

Clickers still exist

[neat gazelle]

👀👀

[olive grail]

Thank you!

[dense elbow]

No wonder he clicks, he got the buttons bound to F2 to F4 with an alt mod

[frank dawn]

[lean wasp]

myth pacemaker all the way righht ?

[gloomy owl]

🤣 previous guild had a healer that confessed he was a clicker, stirred up quite the disbelief as well

[dense elbow]

Healers can prob get away with a lot. Just dont bring them to content where they got to react to many things and fast

You can likely get away as a clicker in most content that is static and preplanned

[next ruin]

At least he does the base rotation with keybinds, our friend here could try the same

I have friends that still click the damage pot and some cd's also lol

[dense elbow]

I click heroism... cause reasons

[next ruin]

This one is ok

[quiet breach]

every single thing I could ever possibly use in combat is keybound

[wind haven]

Why do the M+ talents use Keep Your Feet on the Ground over Steadfast as the Peaks? I looked at top 100 keys and many people are using Steadfast instead 🤔

[quiet breach]

I need to figure out a good keybind for d stance though because my current one sucks ass and I always struggle to press it

its shift G 😭

I have small hands so its a struggle

[edgy widget]

Steadfast requires you to be proactive, which is not as easy for less experienced players
it also means you won't have IV to use reactively anymore

[dire vigil]

Stance dance macro on X

[winged vine]

Steadfast is basically a personal rally every 25 sec

[wind haven]

Gotcha, thought it would be smt like that, passive easier to utilise, thx!

[white orchid]

Hello guys, should i Prio bloodthirst over all when weakaura is blinking or keep stacking crit chance?

[quiet breach]

can u copy and paste stance macro so I can use only one keybind from now on

I have both stances bound

[edgy widget]

not prioritized over everything but yes you should use BT; it blinks for a reason

[dire vigil]

It’s on google, type in fury warrior stance switch macro

[edgy widget]

its' in the #dps-faq!

literally the first macro

[edgy widget]

for clarity, here's my sim comparing a variety of 665 trinkets against Kezan
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2MPdUgrwrynRNQ4pbshGes

[dire vigil]

Then download the WA that puts a big icon on your ui when defensive stance is active

[edgy widget]

if I sim AoE, Cards beats it by a small margin since I don't have Slots

[next ruin]

I have it on a mousbutton

[quiet breach]

I have health pot and health stone on each mouse button

my middle mouse button is mount

[edgy widget]

left and right click?

[next ruin]

You need more mouse buttons

[edgy widget]

just constantly spamming that health pot

[quiet breach]

no the buttons on the side lol

[edgy widget]

first mechanic - health pot
second mechanic - healthstone

[next ruin]

I have 12 buttons on the side

[edgy widget]

never gets called out for not using them

[quiet breach]

i have 2 side buttons and can also click my scroll wheel

[eternal compass]

Mouse wheel up or down i use for stance

[forest owl]

anyone else not getting gilded crests from tier 11 delves?, not capped and havent done them this week but no crests

[quiet breach]

I refuse to not have zoom in and out on mouse scroll

il figure out something decent for sure tho

[frank dawn]

has to be bountiful, but otherwise I'm not sure

[quiet breach]

someone said x earlier I have that as interupt

I think I will use F, I have slam on F

which I rarely cast

[forest owl]

oh i didnt know they had to be bountiful, thats sucks i already did them on tier 8s lol

[quiet breach]

but idk maybe that's too easy to accidently press. I haven't noticed myself accidently slamming tho

stance is on the gcd right?

[frank dawn]

more will spawn tomorrow!

[trim quarry]

is signet even worth considering it's a 2 minute

[dire vigil]

No, take that fat arms neck or the HoC

[next ruin]

Shift f

Alt f

Ctrl f

[edgy widget]

• Signet isn't bad, but is ultimately replaceable; kinda depends on how much access to better trinkets you think you'll actually have
• Cards is great even on heroic, though it kinda feels bad to be taking H from vault
• Neck may not be a bad choice if you play a lot of Arms; less great for Fury, but definitely still usable (high gear stats are all over the place anyway)

[quiet breach]

I'm trying to think if I have something on shift f I don't think I do

that might be the winner

[edgy widget]

if you don't think that you'll reasonably loot a Heroic/M Cards or Eye within a reasonable timeframe, I might actually just go for the signet

[quiet breach]

is slam super spammed as prot warrior?

[next ruin]

No slam button

[trim quarry]

i mean i'm the top dps candidate for HoC pretty much, not sure if i'll be seeing m soon considering we're on rik reverb mythic now

[edgy widget]

Slam is not used at all as Protection

[edgy widget]

you could at least get a heroic one and upgrade to M later though

idk, run some sims, see how diff options compare - if Priorty blows out H Cards, then maybe take it for now and try to be the first in line for M Cards when you get there

[edgy widget]

it's a tough one, but just at a glance I'd think it's between signet and neck

[dry spade]

Am I insane guild says to take mechano core

[trim quarry]

yeah the sims think so as well, signet and neck are both better options according to sims, but i'll just wait out tonight's raid to see

ty for the advice

[clever path]

just sim the ones you wanna get. whicever is the biggest ups so with it

i cant type for shit lol too sleepy

[dry spade]

Simming vault is a crazy move. I’m trying to think ahead a little bit

[earnest canyon]

just sim it and take the biggest upgrade.....some things I can only get from vault cos im casual, so bear that in mind too if you are never going to loot things from raid

[clever path]

simmin vault isnt crazy at all.

[earnest canyon]

wdym crazy? i always sim it and take based on what i could get

[clever path]

it gives you an idea of each items value

what would be crazy is picking without simming

[dry spade]

Because then the mythic weapon would be the pick

But we have dinar.

[clever path]

we dont have dinar yet and dont know how its gonna be put in

[dry spade]

And mechano core is good and insanely rare compared to weapons

Anyone have advice that isn’t just to sim

[edgy widget]

we have dinar in a month at a minimum

[clever path]

shrug take what you want then

[edgy widget]

more likely probably 6 weeks+

[clever path]

if you wont listen to actual advice

[chrome plover]

oh I thought it was actually even more than that... still quite irrelevant

[dry spade]

Parroting sim it isn’t actual advice but thank you I appreciate a response either way

[edgy widget]

you get the same advice as everyone else

• take the biggest upgrade that you won't easily replace

Mechano is good, but we don't know what you do, how much you play, or what your chances of getting another weapon drop may be

nobody is saying take whatever comes out #1 in the sim, but sims give you context to help make your decisions

[dry spade]

Gotcha I wasn’t trying to be dismissive of the sim

[clever path]

i was saying use sim as a guide not pick highest simming item.

it would give you an idea of the worth

[edgy widget]

no you were just trying to be dismissive of all the people you're simultaneously asking for help from, so just... take it down a notch lol

[dry spade]

The mechano core sims higher than my normal kezan. I play arms as well

[edgy widget]

you're right, mechanocore is good
if you've already crafted a weapon, if you have a Heroic best in slots (or think there's a good chance you will have one) for your OH already, it might be a good pick

[dry spade]

Azzy verbatim said to sim vault and take the biggest ups 🙂 but yeah I could also take it down a notch

Ok thanks there’s a good chance I’ll get b.i.s.

[earnest canyon]

why is the warrior tier so bad....i got 4 set on my hunter and its like 17% dps upgrade plus my pets glow green like the hulk 😦

[dry spade]

I just want to set myself up in the long term for mugzee and gally prog

[chrome plover]

im kinda glad it's bad, having to play around an rng tier set because it's good doesnt sound fun

[earnest canyon]

i mean thats the other part of it....im never killing mythic mugzee or gally, so you cant just take the sims in isolation, but if you will be, what you get in vault is probs only a temp thing

[earnest canyon]

i mean you dont change your rotation as hunter, but it being such a huge upgrade is kinda dumb

[dry spade]

True it just feels so bad to leave mythic wep in vault but I think you’re right

[earnest canyon]

at least on warr the baseline is tuned high

felt super low on hunter

[clever path]

ill get to end bosses on mythic eventually but i tend to lean toward upgrades ill keep a while. but i dont overlook big upgrades for the moment. it all depends on the content youre doing on the norm and how easily obtainable the items you want are

id say going off what you say you do. the core would be a good choice. would mean you could stop doing delves for it and focus on mplus and raid

but thats how i see

[dry spade]

Never doing another delve does sound super nice

[wise canyon]

blizard likes me

[edgy widget]

just for clarity, this is what the decision would look like for me, already having a 658 mechano and 675 crafted weapon

[chrome plover]

i took myth weppy last week and mechano this week

[tidal kindle]

Getting mechano and funhouse is easy, both my warriors speedran that ytday

Shitpost aside, mythic weapon is insane up front value and has longevity

[clever path]

yeah the diffs get so small as you go up

[edgy widget]

so while the Mechano is a rare upgrade, it's not actually that large of an upgrade compared to a weapon

In this case, you could wait for farm to see if H BiS actually drops, then decide

[wise canyon]

its gfonna sym the weapon best isnt it

[manic gulch]

how do you have 4 bis items already

[earnest canyon]

I love delves....best thing they ever added.....I WFH 90% of the time and you can literally pause the game while you take a call or whatever. Cant do that in raids/m+

ive spent like 1.,5hrs in a delve before lmao

[median dust]

tank dps

[fickle cedar]

insane trinket drop gz

[edgy widget]

nerf prot 🤝

[dry spade]

We killed last night and no bis. I think I’ll take mechano and because I’ve already crafted 675 main hand. Thanks again all

[edgy widget]

keep in mind the nice thing about crafting a weapon is that you can upgrade your other weapon for free

[wise canyon]

weapon simmed much better

[edgy widget]

but yeah, either way just make a decision and run with it - it will all come back around eventually

[median dust]

😂

[dry spade]

Yeah I’m loving that in prot lol

[tidal kindle]

Well you already put the 60 gilded deposit into the crafting crest

So not quite free

[edgy widget]

no it's still free

[fickle cedar]

trinket is still better, you wont see it again, weapon pool is massive

[chilly fractal]

Free 99

@wise canyon go with your heart… my heart would be weapon

[edgy widget]

assuming you didn't already have a >665 ilvl weapon, your initial craft gave you an equal rate of ilvl : crest (60 crests for 675 is equivalent to 4 upgrade levels)

You can then upgrade your other weapon to the same level without spending any crests, which is free; it's two items upgraded for the price of one (not counting valorstones ofc)

[dry spade]

:valorstones: am I joke to you?

[edgy widget]

yes

[brisk talon]

yes

[edgy widget]

they're dummy easy to get now

[dry spade]

Yeah I have a bunch of the valor rocks

In bags still

[edgy widget]

I had 12 in my bags when the season rolled over, lost em all

[dry spade]

They vendored tho for like 50g

[chilly fractal]

I still have like 6 valor stone items in my bags

Always seem to have 2000 on me

[clever path]

i only went below 2000 last night cause i got like 4 items from raid and boosted them all up to what was cheap

[dry spade]

You can combine ur sparks if you haven’t yet to try and get below cap

It’s like 250

[clever path]

but ill have 2k stones again asap cause i farm stuff stupidly

[tepid solar]

Does anyone know how much better frenzied enrage is? I see it is preferred this season... Any idea how much better? Or is it a toss up on play style?

[dry spade]

Without the sims right in front of me, it’s likely a significant single target loss. But fury thane prefers strong enrage for sustained aoe

[edgy widget]

depends on how much you like haste, but the average is ~0.1-0.2% between them, so it really doesn't matter

[chilly fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-bobby-will-ferrell-talladega-nights-fast-indy500-gif-4552859

It’s all about the movement speed buff

[fickle cedar]

frenzied thane sims a bit better for me but i suppose you do lose quite a lot of power in big pulls which are quite common this season

[edgy widget]

it can go both + or - and can often swap depending on your current state of gearing

so my advice is really to not worry about it and just play whichever one you like better

that said, Frenzy tends to sims a little better in ST builds and Powerful a little better in AoE builds

[next ruin]

Does the haste diff could make a big diff for bs cdr for things like rik reverb's adds spawns ?

On bandit I went powerful enrage and I had no problem having bs for every add spawn, but timing might be tougher on rik

[edgy widget]

minorly yes, it could

but you're still going to have a lot of RNG on that fight in particular

I played an off build on Broodtwister for that reason, using Frenzied and Sudden Death (before it was required) to get a little more extra rage and CDR for AM

along with some cycle charging

[karmic fiber]

You can buy embelishments off the AH right? I was checking https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/bis-gear and I want to craft a 675 weapon and I don't have that Ascension embelishment. I can just buy it off the AH and place an order like that yeah?

[clever belfry]

yes

[edgy widget]

everything except the sparks (weekly quests) and enchanted crest (from vendor next to crafting order station) can be bought from the AH

[quiet breach]

if u don't do the weekly quest from the spark by the time weekly reset happens u just loot the spark u missed from doing basically any content right?

[winter shoal]

Yeah it's not guaranteed but you should get it pretty quickly from keys/raid bosses/delves/whatever

It'll only catch you up on previous weeks though, you still have to do the current week's quest

[rotund ginkgo]

FINALLY

CINDER 13

TIMED

FURY GAMING

33 SEC LEFT ON CLOCK

[vale dove]

Enhance diff 🤣 only a shaman could die 6 times and still nearly hit 4mil overall

At what fight length does Kezans fall off and something like pacemaker overtake?

if anyones done the sims on it 😄

[winter shoal]

Probably around 4m

Takes about 4 mins for kezan to fully stack

I've only ever simmed 4m and 5m directly against each other, and (normal) kezan fell behind in 4m

It's also behind for my arms set at 5m as well

[vale dove]

at 3mins Kezans is behind Amplifier + Energy Drink

by like 33k 💀

[opal monolith]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/u7nJgkvrnycdTWVH2G7v1d

any help

lol

i cant decide

mythic tier helm or hc amplifier

[clever path]

yeah kezan is great...if the fight is like 8 minutes LOL

jokes aside i wish they would make the stacks happen faster

or more reliably

[rotund ginkgo]

worst part

he did nearly

30mil

on first pack

[vale dove]

💀

[clever path]

i have some fights where im at like 8 stacks real fast but then others im lagging at like 3 at the same time with the same amount of ability use

[rotund ginkgo]

i genuinely wnt as hard as i could

lmao

[vale dove]

indeed check https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/u5XYtbeUCo9eoB6xFkVjoo

[vale dove]

5min sim

Kezan only above by 3k

[winter shoal]

Amplifier angle surely

[opal monolith]

send help

[clever path]

The longer the fight the stronger eye is for sure

[opal monolith]

u sure?

[vale dove]

so ye guess i wont use it at all in Heroic anymore

[opal monolith]

couldnt i just farm out seaforium instead

[clever path]

But wish they balanced it around like 5 minute fights cause that’s what most are gonna be end tier

[vale dove]

Amplifier is much better than Seaforium

[winter shoal]

Is your sim with amplifier fully upgraded? At 665 it should be roughly on par with myth raid trinks

[azure holly]

is there a keybind or macro to interact with the closest possible entity?

i.e a bomb

[opal monolith]

yes 665

fully upgrae

[azure holly]

without needing to hover over it

[winter shoal]

There's an interact keybind in the settings

[azure holly]

yes but without hover?

[opal monolith]

whys it simming so low then?

[winter shoal]

I'm guessing you have 3pc and the helmet is getting your 4pc?

[opal monolith]

no

i alry have 4p

my helm is just 645 tier atm

[winter shoal]

Can you link the actual sim

[opal monolith]

i i

did

[vale dove]

its because hes upgrading helm to max ilvl

[winter shoal]

I think it's probably still an amplifier angle just to save yourself to misery of farming delves

[opal monolith]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/u7nJgkvrnycdTWVH2G7v1d

[winter shoal]

Oh I missed it

[vale dove]

are you gonna blast all them runes on helm upgrades

because thats prob not worth atm

[winter shoal]

629 neck is diabolical

[vale dove]

Amplifier is big but that neck is also gonna be hard to get

[opal monolith]

i tried farming cinderbrew

[clever belfry]

👍

vaults done 👍

[winter shoal]

Yeah personally I'd take amplifier, long-terms it's easier to get a myth hat than it is to get that specific trinket on hero track, and it's only 0.1% different currently anyways

[clever path]

Myth helmet drops off first boss to cata

Easy boss too

[kind mantle]

I picked mechano core over a couple good mythic track upgrades, it had leech tho so I was already gooning when I saw it in vault

[oblique trail]

balls

[opal monolith]

another question

my stats are so fucked i got more crit than mastery with the alchemical chaos flask

when it rolls crit

and i use prioriry too

thats bad right lmao

[winter shoal]

Probably yeah but priory trinket is kinda bad anyways

2m cd

[next ruin]

sim time, but i have a hero house of cards and mm track wep, altough i already have 2 decent trinkets (pacemaker and lock and stock) and a crafted 2h, lets wait but id appreciate your takes

[vale dove]

you probably shouldnt of already crafted a 2her is my take xD

but id still take the 2h mm track we use 2 of them as fury anyway

[next ruin]

i can't act on the past

weapon is a 1.7% uppgrade while trinket is 0.6, and im not getting a mythic track weapon in raid soon, i guess thats it

[haughty quest]

do we use windsinger or captain? wcl says windsinger but wowhead guide captain

[edgy widget]

Ankh is their main CD

[tepid solar]

Thank you!!

[edgy widget]

if you want super ez mode, I just go with Frenzied ST and Powerful MT

[eternal sundial]

fury my idolo

glorious king ragish

show me your ways

[sand crest]

frenzied enrage all content is bis

[clever path]

hey my friends, i actually like both of the specs, arms and fury, what do you recommend me for m+?

[open prairie]

Fury in fury channel for fun factor

prot if you want pug invites

[next ruin]

what is the fastest way to obtain valorstones ? weekly quest and caches ? i need some before raid

[clever path]

But, is fury better than arms for m+? i see arms is better everywhere but, is only a damage thing?

[open prairie]

radiant echoes

depends how your group pulls

[clever path]

i love fury for the double weapon, but veryone tells me arms is better for m+ right now hahaha

[winter shoal]

Both are strong for different reasons

Play whichever you prefer

[open prairie]

if you’re pugging you will get chain declined for keys

[winter shoal]

Arms is better aoe, fury better prio and boss dam

[open prairie]

that you dont heavily outgear

[dire vigil]

Arms is better at large AOE, fury prio/boss damage is usually a lot better. In the highest keys, the passive tankiness of fury might prevail over time

[open prairie]

or out io

[winter shoal]

This is the reality for any dps solo queueing

[open prairie]

well not mages

or locks

but yeah

[winter shoal]

@restive peak statement?

[open prairie]

definitely not for enhance last season

[next ruin]

should i be doing delves first in order to do this

[clever path]

thanks for the explanation my friends

i would go fury then

[open prairie]

Yeah radiant echoes are from bountifuls

[clever path]

all my groups play aoe builds

so i can go prio build

[winter shoal]

This is the way

[clever path]

and blast the bosses hehe

[winter shoal]

Play with filthy ret and unholy and destro locks and then carry the boss damage for them

[open prairie]

a radiant echo event is like 250 valorstones

for 5 minutes

[sinful spoke]

getting declined from 7s

[winter shoal]

Absolutely based behavior from a fire mage

On god I haven't had a single pug mage break 2m overall this season

One did 1.98

[open prairie]

I mean i’ve never had a positive experience playing with a lizard player

[winter shoal]

Most do like 1-1.5

[open prairie]

pres mains permanently in wrong position

[winter shoal]

Pres on last boss rookery

I mean warrior can mostly self sustain that boss anyways but still

[open prairie]

Asking ranged players to position properly

is a giant meme

just look when any pack has a jump out mechanic

[restive peak]

I don't get chain declined, we're actually prtty strong rn

[winter shoal]

I meant the comment about mages not also getting chain declined

[open prairie]

I mean inviting pug mages is a trap

[restive peak]

Oh LMAO

[winter shoal]

Facts

[restive peak]

PUG mages are garbage

Like 95%

[open prairie]

i check their mog/race

if it aint it

key terrorist 100%

[keen dove]

I have 2x spark do i craft weapon or 2x embelished items?

what do you guys say

no luck from vault

[open prairie]

how lucky do you feel on a myth 2h

[keen dove]

0

[winter shoal]

In general that's a sim question. I'd probably go 2h personally but going double dusk (wrists belt probably in your case) is also fine

[open prairie]

yeah i’d prob go wep unless your raid has like 0 2h users

and you want to gamba

[keen dove]

i dont do mythic

raid

[open prairie]

oh thats a weapon angle

100%

[errant vessel]

Ye esp last week lmao

[open prairie]

didnt know you could pug hc gally already

unless thats a champ capital punisher

[willow patrol]

how different is this version of fury compared to dragonflight?

[red peak]

This is going to sound incredibly stupid. but when were playing slayer with AM. If BS/Reck get desnched should we generally wait to sync them up again

[winter shoal]

No

[red peak]

So the goal is to spend as soon as the opportunity arises?

[winter shoal]

Technically the APL says to hold bladestorm if your reck has <24s remaining (which means more like 12ish seconds because of the AM cdr) but sending on cd is also good

[red peak]

So basicallly hold if its not a complete joke

Or if avatar cant be activated instead

[winter shoal]

Not sure what you mean by that

[red peak]

Ie you wouldnt hold for 1min

[winter shoal]

Correct

[red peak]

sorry after work and my brain is decompressing

[winter shoal]

I mean in practical situations neither BS nor reck will be a 1m cd

More like 30-45

s

[rotund ginkgo]

@eternal sundial

NEXT

[keen dove]

thanks

[clever belfry]

sp afk or

[rotund ginkgo]

small safe pulls

ig

+he says no gear

[eager thorn]

any tips for using best in slots active?

i have funhouse which im using w ava, should i just use best in slots on cd outside that or save for next reck?

[tiny seal]

do we use best in slots after house of cards or with 1.5 cds?

[tidal kindle]

On use 1.5min with avatar

Gives more stats

Macro bis with reck as follow up pocket burst

(Brain off strat)

Theres some stuff you can do like save bis as a manual cast if youre going into an extended execute phase / pack

Where reck macro maybe not ideal

But reck macro fine for like 97% of situations

If you don't want to think too much

[tiny seal]

ok so bis>hoc in 1.5 window

and hoc on "small" reck rotation

[dawn coral]

Is dungeon slice supported for Fury?

[tidal kindle]

Other way around

[warm crag]

hello garmulator

[clever belfry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1351997625666240662/image.png?ex=67dc6968&is=67db17e8&hm=a3b2abeb661451325b05715d7ab5609502ead1d50b999b5ad81c92b6475f7b2c&

[next ruin]

havent seen this shitposted here, might aswell do it

[covert blaze]

ball

[edgy widget]

/use Recklessness
/use Avatar
/use 16```
change 13 -> 14 if trinket is in the second slot
change 16 -> 17 if Slots is in the OH

[clever belfry]

put /use [combat] 16

in case u press the macro before u get combat

[edgy widget]

I tried that, didn't actually do anything

[clever belfry]

it does for me

:#1

makes it so it never uses it outside combat

[edgy widget]

idk, but it still tried to cast every time

[clever belfry]

then u mustve griefed it

[edgy widget]

maybe it griefed me

[warm crag]

:#1

[clever belfry]

i accept my failures

[tiny seal]

ty sir

[edgy widget]

though if you're using two on-use it shouldn't matter, since House will always go before Slots

[rotund ginkgo]

pin this shi

[tiny seal]

quick sim also says just to zugzug bis at 20 secs

[rotund ginkgo]

yaboi 3018 rn

[whole yacht]

only 2.7m? smhh

[rotund ginkgo]

what can i say

smol pulls

smol penis

[whole yacht]

lol