#fury
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all that work to get punched in the dick
anyone else having issues with the BT crit weak aura not working after lighting up just once or twice
is there any way to see what drops from delves between loot specs
i dont really want arms/fury gear, but i want the energy drink and im not sure if it drops in prot spec
as thane, do on we only Thunderblast as a filler, or is it priority over RB/BT at any point? For Single Target
idk if im just bad at arms or what
but im constantly doin more dmg as fury on all content
how is our 4 piece dps gain wise?
dogwater
i was thinking it was trash
u are simming aoe -> 99.999% chance u dont know what ur doing
i just sim 5 targets 5 mins for my aoe talents and 1 target 5 mins for st spec
and see what they both say
you are an noober
You can ride a bee!
Isnt that cool?!
for how much haste should i aim, any point i should hit at least/lowest ?
whatever sim says
the mechano-core amplifier vault item can come from doing 8's of any delve right?
Does that crafting trick still work, where I recraft with a different missive and it counts as 2x items and I can upgrade something else without crests?
you guys taking mythic gloves or heroic mechano core out of this
i already have mythic seaforium pacemaker and hero signet of the priory
do we think mechano core amplifier might get nerfed? why is it simming top now I swear it wasn't that high last week
Its always been insane
Mechano was nerfed twice already and it’s still a great trink
i took it delve trinkets ftw, if this gets nerfed im going to be 😡
Hey, I just wanted to ask everyone if there was an accepted way to use both house of cards and Best-in-Slots, they put eachother on CD so popping them both is out of the option, so I wanted to know how everyone else is prioritizing?
Got myth track Decimating Decapitator in vault. that paired with a hero track wep woudl be better then the 639 crafted asendance wep? or maybe I swithc to the double duskthread embellishment now?
probably the trinket, you have alot better odds of getting a mythic weapon vs a specific myth track trinket
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Dont rampage, xd
our streak is highly irrelevant compared to other tier sets, aint even gonna lie
is stupid, the more you rampage which is a lot, you increase the chance to lose it
how much better is new 2pc from old one?
this look right to everyone else? double duskthread would be better then ascendance writhing? asking before I blow my spark making the cloak
someone suggested i got a website to look for a clan are any of ya'
Yes
taking in a fellow warrior lol
Did you tho, sign up on the website?
i need the website name again i had to go to work
is this ST?
no, aoe dungeon slice
mb
wowprogress.com and/or raider.io are the easy to use ones
I just don' wanna make a cloak now and regret it cause I can't make the twohander for ascendance in a week. lol
The rampage buff should be 5% per stack
2% is too low
And the 4p should also be buffed more than that
nah I think general consensus is if you get a mythic weapon you should be crafting double dusk thread this week
Remove rage gen from raging blow proc
otherwise you craft weapon
It’s useless
I thought it was only if you get the mythic weps out of raid, the bis ones. but that makes more sens.e thanks a lot!
nah ilvl is the most important thing on weapons afaik
dude theres other tiers that are way advanced then ours atm
like 9% we our tier is only pushing 4 %
Butt the tierset, and you got to reduce our baseline numbers
I know, nothing you can do about it
If they buff tier set, they’ll nerf our baseline though
Rather not get touched

rip
I mean sorry
how is signet of prio trinket?
Is Lens not good for arms?

atleast top 10?
it is
why did blizz make it so you need KSL to get non depleting keys once I get 3k I won't even do keys anymore
and if my key didn't deplete I wouldn't even care about leavers
Let’s just go back to depleting keys at all levels. Double for mechgyrasaur
To not trap ppl who need to bounce up and down, while they learn the game - dont get hardstuck at a level they are not really to be at. Be it by chance, boost or any other factor.
@dense elbow could you not just manually lower it with the npc? it should be something that's optional but not forced
Ye, humans genereally dont work like that. Feeling forced to do that, will be 10x worse than it just being a thing that is done
idk I still rather have the choice
RBG rating shouldn’t go down either because I lost 10 games in a row
What is good for you and me, might not be the best for general public
the whole reason why I hate doing my own in the first place is cuz of leavers/quiters
feels demoralizing to try and even push your own key
just feels like unless you main tank/healer good luck getting into groups if you don't have a clique of m+ friends
Anybody know if the jastor diamond is still bugged?
shaman poppin off 2
Pally strong, or you weak?
Hmms
i died a few times i to interupts
random question, is it possible that lower ilvl of the season 1 4p set sims higher than upgrading to Season 2 2p set? basically, just confirming that I shouldn't absolutely upgrade to 2p unless sims say so.
is the weapon machine gob's iron grin any good?
Sim yo self
least that's good for prot. my map gave me the stupid garbagemancer's
Big Red button any good for a trinket?
Also is Mountain thane just better for the raid this season?
Do you prio LB even on ST?
most bosses play slayer
Think the only bosses I've seen people play thane on is stix and (maybe) gallywix
4pc was a whole 2k dps increase for me. Two hero track and two champ track
yo
Hello, could you help me, what is the best rotation for the Fury Warrior?
fellas i got this shit in vault ran a map delve and looted the trinket lmao
So do we just go arms for Brew?
prio trinket w/ Avatar and BiS on off cycle
easy way is to just make a macro with
/use Recklessness
/use Avatar
/use 16```
that'll use the trinket in your first slot first, which will activate the ICD on Slots, alongside Reck & Ava; then you can use the same button again to activate Slots whenever (with Reck or on CD, however lines up better)
if you have the trinket in the second slot, change 13 -> 14
and if slots is in your offhand, change 16 -> 17
Eventually it's highly likely yes
Based question. Fury is plenty fine, I tend to catch up fast after first pull
Just because your numbers on the meter don’t match up to other classes with that one true big aoe, doesn’t mean you’re not doing “more” damage to them
I mean the hunter did 800k more dps than me.
That doesn't mean he's more valuable
Make that fight last 20-25 seconds longer, because muscle and chef stays alive
S2/4 fire mage would like to talk
And their big numbers don’t mean shit
Compare boss dmg and important add dmg to other classes. Not your full aoe numbers
Just sucks when they pull 15 mobs and I am hitting 5.
If we were uncapped we would be insanely broken
Like insanely absolutely ridiculously broken
We're extremely strong at our job
Gotta remember what type of game you’re playing. They don’t take the “lesser” classes and make them better. They take the “better” classes and eventually nerf them to be like the “worse” classes
I mean most of the other dungeons its not too bad. But brew it just feels terrible. I just don't know how good arms is compared to fury in there.
I understand your frustration cause I like big numbers
I always end up #2 in brew, even 13s and shit
Arms is definitely better for “big numbers”
Arms has the same dmg profile as other non-hard capped and they're worse than them
But fury is just as viable
Fury has a niche and is one of the stronger at it
anyone know how to make the kaching in Archi's BT WA louder? Master Volume doesn't seem to be working for me or maybe I'm deaf
I don't understand why you would ever bring an arms warr over an UHDK for a melee
Or an assa rogue
do u go fury for every dungeon no matter how high the key? @restive peak
I do understand why a melee comp w hunter would bring a fury warr for our prio/ST/consistency
Yeah
I did a few 12s as arms, it was not better
I played a 13 DFC with Gajeel as arms and me fury, almost dead even
dang u are the lone fury stan among the sea of arms ppl
But I did far, far more boss dam
no dks are in rwf and thats what i base my class choices on
I think people are too obsessed with overall
Me top meters me happy.
People really forget fire mage DF S2 and how it was literally the comp
Wym? Look at how many high io fury’s there are
But it wasn't very high on overall
Amen brotha so many people dont understand dmg profiles and that overall means barely anything
Monkey brain just see big number and number ontop
Arms is every other high overall class but worse
Fury has a niche that really is only covered by ignite spec fire mage(none right now), and WW monk
That makes fury, imo, far more valuable and desireable this tier than arms
Havoc as really really strong prio aswell
But if you only care about overall, play arms
True
Forgot havoc, VDH being so prevalent has held them back a bit
yeah im hoping for vengeance nerfs so other tanks to take over and a lot of ppl will want a havoc
the spec is really good right now
Is it no mover?
yeah
the no mover build does do less dmg than if u played the backflip talents
but its very close
so no reason to never not play no mover in M+
I play Fury because 2x Big Weapons > 1x Big Weapon and that's all that really matters.
I play fury cos im always angry, drink Monster, and punch holes in my walls
I personally prefer fury in M+ over arms just because colossus arms feels very clunky to play. It feels bad on huge pulls but the boss damage is very good. I've spammed a lot of 10s since season launch and my fury v arms overall can be fairly close depending on key
Ive always hated Arms playstyle outside PvP
Yeah being honest, I dont play arms because it feels like im playing with my feet. Even if its better for mass pulls etc
just doesnt flow
Fury feels more spammy which I like
I play fury cuz Its the only spec I've tried
xdd
will learn the other 2 eventually
I've only been playing a few weeks so
I've played both, and while both are fun, Fury fits my mindset better.
Prot makes me fall asleep.
prot will forever be the worst tank to play imo as long as IP still exists
the spec doesnt need 2 off gcd mitigations that you need to keep up

I'd kill for a Fury-Tank style that was all-in on IP, but it sucks to keep it up for Prot, yeah.
prot warrior is so damn chill still
so in s2 os bloodlust always a higher prio button to press over raging blow? or only when the button lights up/target is >35%hp
check wowhead, there's certain conditions, but its <35% for BT or >80% crit
i saw that but just wanted to double check cause i noticed streamers pressing bloodthirst over raging blow even without meeting those conditions
in m+ i felt it was more impacting pressing bloodthirst more often than raging blow since it could activate thunder blast
i could be wrong though
in large packs I do BT for the TB's
shoul we farm for mechano core amplifier?
I have been. 4 bountiful + map then 4 easy ones for vault
Hello guys I have a question so before someone told me that I want to press BT at 85%+ (crit) , below 35% (boss) works the same way or we do it on cd?
what do you mean?
85% crit is not the same as massive guaranteed damage
If i recraft my 658 weapon to 675 (60 gilded crests), will I then be able to upgrade my mythic vault weapon from 662-675 for stones only or will i still need crests for that as well?
also its 75%
yeah only for valorstones
thank you 🫡
grats
i loved watching liquid/echo/method do that, but im so glad I will never have to
at least until im ilevel 680 or next xpac is out lmao
thanks boys
my bt WA have like a % there
yes press at 85 percent 35 percent and when you have nothing else
when in aoe spam bt generally
yes pretty much
Thank you 
if i cata something with leech will my cata item have leech?
yes, same with sockets
after the third? maybe 4th? nerf u couldve played any dps
sin rogue was insane prio damage
but yeah i was beating a lot of mages overall as arms
worse prio damage but win overall so looks better on meters gg
that's only the case with vicious contempt right?
Yes
Feels like a noob question but I can't find an answer - how does MH vs OH work for Fury?
My understanding is that higher ilevel should be MH, but what about items like the best-in-slots that cantrip?
Me when the tanks decide the best place for the boss is in the middle of the purple beam
skill issue
MH is way more important after simming a bit, but I dont know the exact difference....OH just seems more of a stat stick
gotcha. so i expect ilevel just trumps all in that case
seems to from simming (im not an expert by any means)
but yeah, MH ilevel > all it seems
ctrl c to copy ctrl v to paste
Would've been rank 4 man 😦
with a 1.5min trinket and B.I.Slots, i use the 1.5 w/ avatar on the opener, and i use BIS when reck comes back off cd i would assume?
yes
What boss? Can't think of any purple beam this season
Does it seem that 15% to reset stacks on rampage seem to be like 60% cause it seems the uptime on the buff is really low.
Sprocket
The enhanced version the second time
Oh yeahh
how big is getting a 2nd myth track wep for us and is it worth using heroic Best in Slots mace over a myth track wep atm?
That is a sim question
My sims say hero BIS is lower
That’s even with myth and crafted
hard to say hoenstly
I'd sim it tho
a mythic track pace is pretty nuts but so is an eye of kezan
when are mythic boe's gonne be on ah?
kezan kinda ass in m+ so if its something u play
go with pacemaker
is that hero track kezan
if so go pacemaker always
that shit maxxed is practically bis
does anybody know how accurate/good dungeon slice sim is?
quick question... i got 2 capital punshers, and was able to equip both, just makeing sure this is intended and also im trying to track the industrial runofff debuff but i cant seem to find it anywhere
It's very minimal damage
why would u want to track the debuff?
to make sure its working...
why would it not work lol
cuz its not showing up on details, just making sure its not bugged... feel like thats a resonable question
It barely does any dmg anyways😅
It shows up on details would check again all the way on the bottoms
and yeah the dmg is nothing special so little it does not matter at all
just makes it barely better than an equal ilvl wep

@young swan this is just simming better than house/kezan till mythic
What the hell
Tall today, tiny tomorrow
🤌 🤏
It's giga strong bro
My guild asked me why they gave me kezan/cards
I'm like
How was I supposed to know I"d get both delve trinkets week 3...

The idea of doing 8 delves a week for amplifier makes me want to quit the game on god
You were down bad at first
I'm doing 16 a week

Someone get my mans a therapist
Week 1 house/kexan
whats even the % difference between max hero raid trinkets vs the delve ones
om
(normal)
Like .5% 
rate the opener
help chat tier or bis ? no mythic track weap sadly
tier is plentiful, bis is not
hi can you rate my opener
myth crit/mastery weapon or catalyst legs ?
Myth wep always
mythic weapon
Until you have 2 of them
cheers!
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if im using hekilis rotation helper or im simming my character, there are often times where the game will choose to raging blow instead of spending rage even though i'm capped. does anybody have any TRUE way to explain to me the priority of raging blow and what percentage im looking to press bloodlust?
the game will also prioritize execute over rampage even though im fury capped which doesnt make sense to me.
It’ll prio execute if you’re about to drop jugg stacks
rage economy is flooded and pressing execute with 3 marked for execute prevents wasted bladestorm CDR + does a lot of damage
hekili just pulls from the sim APL so its gonna tell u to BT when you have more than like 70% crit (i cant remember the exact number but its around there)
so a three stack marked for death, as well as prioritizing keeping ashen juggernaut stacked, will take prio over fury cap?
3x MFE, 2 sudden death stacks, sudden death expiring soon, juggernaut dropping
I also believe it sends all the rb's it can, up to 5, after bladestorm.
all take precedent over rampage
also rb after bs
what conditions do you not press execute then?
is giga crank
not this basically
everywhere else
Realistically how fucked am I by crafting weapon last week instead of offpiece embells?
u do not press execute unless if you absolutely have to outside of those conditions
Realistically, extremely hard to be
what is the explanation for pressing raging blow over rampage
heyyyy small rotation question :D bloodthrist is superior priority in aoe but also on 2 enemies? or is raging blows on 2 enemies better?
hekili will tell me to raging blow despite max fury
raging blow increases the damage of ur next rampage by 20% per stack up to 5
slayer anger management
about equal
how does a 20% increase to rampage warrant fury cap?
am i just looking to get that shit to 3-5 before every rampage?
well u only overcap like that after bladestorm
is there a way to sim it? like programming the bot to test both?
yes, iirc BT only fully overtakes RB at 6 targets and up until that point theres close to 0 difference
is that because my next rampage after bladestorm is +50 so i want to max rank the rampage?
yes
What should i get? https://prnt.sc/S8ECf85W3qlt
Best-in-slot is 6/8 champion, circuit breaker is 1/6 mythic, the middle set-body part is eroic 1/6.
Keep in mind i have crafted 675 weapon and 6/6 eroic circuit breaker, but i do not own any set effect (eroic+ tier)
are you ever pressing execute on a 2x mfe with a single sudden death stack with lets say ~10 on jugg?
mythic weapon
if you arent at max overwhelmed stacks or its about to drop, yes
execute has like 5 million conditionals to track
its a real pain in the ass
second myth weapon
so the best in slot weapon and the set piece is not worth right xanta
(im new so bare with me)
like its not like you dont want tier, its just not really a huge priority
unless you plan to respec
easy choice mythic track weapon....
Yo anybody else stuck at renown 3 with raid faction? Not receiving any rep from boss kills
so what would you say the most overlooked, but critical point of managing fury warrior would be? @young swan
Renown 4 gives 3% damage buff
so weapon should be the best choice it seems
for sure
but from raidbot it says 0,1% compared to now xd
maybe not overlooked, but most critical is just always pressing a button
because my circuit breaker is 665
i cant link the thing from the addon because on geforce now is not avalaible
i have to manually add things
if im gonna server and possibly faction change as my realm is dead, what is best? weirdly wowhead says void elf
void elf
why though
it does the most damage
i dont think that is even unlocked for me
have you played ravager arms
i liked dwarf because of the stoneform
yes
that is OP as hell
i have no clue what alliance realms are good
void elf is the best tho
i just cant get someone to craft me a fucking sword here
so i have to pay money to change realm to get a sword
no such thing as alliance realms and horde realms anymore
guilds are cross server and cross faction
trade chat is dead here
on my horde realm, its spammed 10000 messages a secon
d
lol
i hate the crafting system they introduced in DF and I hope it dies in a fire
but yeah, i cant get shit made here where as on all my other chars i can get anything made in 5 seconds
have you played slayer ravager?
no gio
por que
ok so change enchants and picking up the new weapon right?
is it worth changing realm just for crafting stuff? Trade chat is literally dead here , I think there are 3 alliance on this sercer
i choosed a good pop server cuz of that when i came back to the game last month
got a slight amount of gear
most of my chars are 20+ years old.....this warrior is....I dont mind if I have to pay £20 to move, but I feel im missing some trick
i just want a sword making

i saved 30 gilded crests from upgrading offhand choosing bis not bad
little tip create a horde charakter
go capital and ask there you can start crafting crossover if you got name and server
with the craft task
tried that, its a dead server it seems lol
guilds are cross faction sure, im in one....raids are
but crafting? noone is crafting anything here
this works even with players from other servers 🙂
Ive spent 30mins asking
ive moved server, its all good
scammed again by blizzard
how shite is ravenous honey buzzer trinket? 6/6 myth it sims 25k better than my priori champion trinket. but it sounds clunky af and im better off taking the socket for this week right?
u get to fly around on a giant bee and do insane aoe
how can that ever bee shite
paid for a server transfer and now I just get "login failed" all the time.,....I JUST WANT A SWORD BLIZZARD
personally would take pacemaker
same
kezan gets worse as your raid gets more geared
killed heroic bandit and got a champion verison of best in slots, is that supposed to happen? isnt it supposed to be hero ?
ah that would do it
And I roll so bad I have 1 raid finder token
that would have thrown you out of the guild no?
dont know, still processing
Have you tried Losless Scaling? Frame generation from that + 9950X3D feels good raiding with over 200 fps on a 240Hz OLED 😛
Rik ST or Cleave spec?
cleave
my 9800x3d is still in the box......my plan was to buy 9950x3d
just too lazy
sim angle
Are u using frame gen ? How is it ? What losles scaling do you mean ?
Üa snipping tool u should get first
Thing is goated
if a target is below 35% do i press bloodthirst no matter what
and what target count does bloodthirst start to be priority?
I get it. The process of removing the cooler and swapping cpus is really annoying
Yeah its a program on Steam called lossless scaling. It has AI upscaling and frame gen. I use it for games that dont have their own frame gen like WoW. I was sceptical of some 3rd party software but it works great. Made raids feel good again.
no, im on AM4 atm
so its ripping out the mobo and everything else
;[
9800x3d has been sat in a box since october? I just cant be arsed
does this include borderless windowed as we all use?
Yes
and its compatible with gsync
and other variable refresh tech 🙂
yeah best 7 bucks I ever spent lol
Myth track shoulders or heroic track mechano core? (got champion mechano core already)
I have the latest (v3 I think) frame gen setting and fixed mode (not adaptive) and then the uhh source setting is on the DX... thing I cant remember sorry I'm at work 😛 if you give me a screenshot I can help 🙂
yeah like that
Myth track weapon from the vault except I forgot to spec into Arms loot spec
should just be permanently set tbh
and make sure to cap fps in nvidia control panel below monitor refresh divided by 2. So if you're on 240 then cap it on something like 115 (230 with frame gen)
smart
oh I had no idea you should be in arms spec all the time
bis for prot actually
thanks for the tip
That’s great for prot
Shame I'm bad at tanking lol
not arms spec, arms loot spec
it's the exact same as Fury minus the 1hrs, which means there's no reason to ever be off it
ah for some reason I thought it would like affect the stats on gear that I get... this is very useful advice actually thank you very much§
cant find the option to cap it aint even gon lie
I mean depending on who you ask you should probably be in arms spec all the time right now as well. But we don't like those people (they're one channel over)
it's not in lossless scaling, it's best to do it at driver level so in nvidia control panel or AMD equivalent.
yea im talkin nvidia control panel
just go to where you have individual settings for games, find WoW and then theres something like "maximum framerate"
nope, and the dungeon journal will show you the loot on each table, if you wanna see the difference for yourself
archimtiros have you played ravager slayer yet 🙂
as Fury? no that wouldn't be a good idea
I played it on Crucible as Arms, that and Mugz (maybe Bandit) are really the only fights I think it has much value on
its fun
until i drop 12 stacks of juggernaut 10 seconds before execute
and i lose a rank 1
shit looked goofy af, and gave me hella input latency, i have to play with the settings
Send help
...why would you run ravager slayer? Doesn't it specifically buff bladestorm I thought?
core?
Someone tell me to take the fury bis belt instead of myth track shoulders or hero track amplifier
Delvhe
Since that belt wont show up in my vault again
take the thing that gives you the most that's hardest to get again or sidegrade
I think the shoulders will spawn for sure
I mean the rings are amazing
the mythic weapon
the delve trinkets
diff between that belt or any other belt is gonna be very small
....
1 belt or like 6 shoulders + tier natty drop
i have veteran track shoulders atm so shoulders sim the best, but i raid mythic in a pretty good guild so i will have myth track shoulders soon anyway
because it does more damage
every fiber of my being tells me to get the belt
What would arm take
(in extended execute)
Ig reclear ass vault
oh and i have a normal mechano-core already
@eternal sundial hii
so the hc upgrade is only 6 ilvls
Meowry
This is very reclear ass vault
i had a cranka tn
Key sesh or goon sesh
raid
Bladestorm is better raw damage, though they're very close
Ravager is only better specifically in Execute, hence it's only really great for 2-3 fights
- Crucible because you can cleave Executes during clash
- Bandit because you can cleave Executes and it has a notable execute phase
- Mugz because execute is where most of its damage matters
yeah play with it 🙂 do a quick LFR and see how smooth it is in a big raid even with logging enabled
all the other fights have adds (Vexie, Rik, Stix) or are just raw throughput (Sprocket)
that's fair, just wouldn't go saying it's more damage as a blanket statement
Boots or belt?
the two are extremely close though
man you're on a computer
windows shift s
last time i told someone that they just said nah i like using my phone
I’m not, was going to work 2 hours ago
Took a photo
I thought execute was beans and we should only really press it to lower BS cool down. Or are we talking VC bloodthirsts?
its actually kinda ass so far, aint even gon lie
shoulda took a screenshot then 
finally, I replace skarmorak shard
ratfang angle
And how to send if not at home? 😢
(don't take ratfang)
Delves trinket hero or nobis stats weapon mythic ?
I main prot normally
why? you feel a lot of input lag?
at least half a second of input delay
something's gotta be wrong ;o
and it looks hella jittery
Am I the only one that's feeling too weak on big pulls ? lol
fury is not meant to be good on big pulls
we are hard capped 5 targets
which is sad!
what kind of fps is it showing?
yeah, a little aoe buff would be great imo
identical
let's do it in DMs 😛
Bandit, cleave or ST
How do we feel about the big red button? ST trink?
I have a champ track house of cards and a champ track priory trink but looted hero track button
House of cards is really good, priory kinda ass for warrior
Farm out a seaforium from Floodgate if possible, otherwise any other passive trinket
True. In M+ we are only brought for our utility. 
💯 💯
love the spaghetti language
Italian is so vicious it invented rap
hey guys ... if i got crafted 675 1h weap and shield ... can i upgrade a 2h weapon without crests or they still needed ?
you will be able to upgrade ye
for free
afaik
nnice thy
hadnt heard of that, interesting
ok ok .. not bad but expected better vault 😅
damn thats an expensive ass gemstone ring
everybody getting mythic track weaps...
something like weapon with avoidance or leech? 😅
I was so tempted to get the ring , my bis stat atm is haste versa
shut up
jelly
yes
I don't have a myth weapon
so wcyd
not spoonfed good vaults
mickey mouse vaults
kill stix noob
gg
hi banezi
i increased my hp pot and healthstone usage
im improving
gj
Sim tells me to take the Mythic legs over 2nd weapon and Eye, all fully upgraded. Would I still just take Eye because of how wanted it is
No idea got bis und capital punisher hc equipped
sim it, but prolly house of card or eye of kezan
hoc will be better in all situations
Sim says myth weap. But well trinkets are more uncommon?
kezan will not be helpful in keys unless your tank pulls around it
do heroic and choose
do heroic before choosing
Is Slayer too far behind MT in M+ ?
From personal experience, it's not unplayably bad if you really want to play it
Not really, Slayer does equal or more prio dam. You don't bring Fury for AoE
In massive consistent pulls Thane will be better than Slayer, but Slayer still does good
I personally just hope for giga buffs for the non-rotationals, so Slayer won't feel as ass on AoE.
Being strong on ST can only carry this much, before the lost AoE drags it down
So what your saying is slayer is literally unplayable and it's trolling to play it in m+
Playing Fury warrior with the intention of carrying the AoE part is trolling
Just focus on what Fury does well
Which is?
So what you're saying is it's ok to send anthrax to the fury warrior I was stuck with last night playing slayer and barely doing better then the tank
Short cleave burst and ST dmg?
ST dam and decent passive cleave on limited targets
It is normal UDK does 3.5m overall and fury 3m, but Fury does 1.8m st vs DKs 1.2
So they got different "jobs"
Yeah its been fun apsolutely clapping people on ST
I was 100 mil ahead of people on stix
(Without roll balls)
what's the reason for thane on bunkjunker? see a lot of fury going thane over slayer
Thane is just worse arms for that fight ...
Ethical guy wcid
It's also ethical doing your class' job of killing adds
not same
and havoc
When specced into vicious contempt, do we prio BT > RB in execute phase OR does BT have to have a certain # of stacks of Bloodcraze before it's prio over RB? I'm confused
with vc you hit it on cd basically
OK awesome
makes sense
im guessing it's also reliant on raiders actually rolling ads into boss instead of bombs too
well that's kinda what you have to do
yea but no spec saves you from that
if they don't there are bigger issues than what spec you're playing
alr bois, please help me out, Gloves sims 0,2% higher then myth track weapon, i already have max crafted +hero galy weapon, myth track weappon still worth taking as its cheap to upgrade?
How often do you guys use defensive stance in mythics? Just when shit starts hitting the fan? Big pulls? Or rarely?
There is no clear answer other than when you just need the extra defensive
But better to over-use it a bit rather than rarely use it
Thanks for the advice banezi
Sometimes I feel like I take heavy dps in these higher keys lol
always when ur not in melee range anyway like if beam chasing you in 2nd boss priory
can macro charge to restore battle stance if you want
So in a melee fight in a pickle taking heavy damage what’s the go to defensives?
Also I haven’t played in awhile which is why I sound like a noob
Great point thanks fawx
ah ye
and just confirming this is still only when there's a few ads on opener right? because whenever i do it for ST, i dont have enough rage to rampage on my opener
feels so stinky taking a delve trinket over mythic ones
why wouldnt you take myth for crest/stone dump?
In raid fights I use this opener most of the time even if no adds and most of the times rage is there.
mechano simming like .5% higher or more and only costs 30, radio would cost 60 to use. p expensive for a worse trinket
idk what im doing wrong then
I only changed one thing
I cast Recklessness - Charge
And when I reach the boss I cast Avatar with my trinket
The very minimal delay between reaching and pressing avatar will cast auto attack and generate rage for your rampage after Avatar
do weekly delver bounty map first, it might drop for you
before you take it from vault
Is there any probability that signet of priory trinket would be bis for arms even maybe for fury later in patch?
In terms of stats it is a good trinket and tbh am using it on both specs cause I did not get any other viable option atm.
The only part that sucks is aligning it with cooldowns.
2min cooldown is essentially a 3min cooldown for warriors so no
it won't be bis but it's not the worst trinket at all
I understand, thank you both
Hey, is this viscera trink a bait or is it actually good?
its ok
Guys, HC mechano-core or mythic chest?
🤔 was planning to play arms a lot so crafted 2h weap.. but now I get myth weapon in vault xD think I may just play fury with the 2!
I‘d take mechano Core since the loot Table of Delves makes this pretty rare..
Edit: and it is BiS
Run your weekly bountiful delve first using a map then see if hc trinket drops first
I have a maxed myth wep MH and Best-in-slot normal OH, is it worth to craft weapon or go with crit emb on off-pieces
Ah yes, ofc do That First. 👍🏻
good call!
Did you run the sim at current ilvl or maxed out?
Are you guys holding out for Kezan or running House of Cards / mechano ?
I already got the Eye on nhc so I am looking for mechano for ST and on use for bursts & aoe
HOC = burst? Kezan = sustain? Is that how it's understood?
Do you guys track the "best in slots" on use effect with your trinket or is there some smart way with a macro

I got it too
also runed done
so happy
same except i have to do delves for half a spark anyway 

my other trinket is house of cards
true it’s useless this week
For AoE and Burst Mechano Sims higher but in my opinion and Long fights Id prefer Kezan and HoC or another on use for burst. Anyway you should always sim and try it on your own which one you prefer
Interesting. Mechano was simming higher for both aoe and st for me
shit vault no surprise
Guess then u got. the Right answer already 🙂👍🏻
how is rare cloak and myth track tier piece a shit vault
☝🏽
I stg if I get dogged on my vault I will be sad
3x hc, 3x10 and some delves
Has to give goos stuff 
I feel dirty using this shitty delve trinket 
i want weapons, trinkets not items i can easily get in raid like tier hands my guilds almost 3 mythic, hands drop 2nd boss
If you take hands its 1 less person who needs that tier token or is able to use another offpiece. Its not a solo game my man
but easily getting rare cloak in raid
sus
no one in my guild needs myth tier hands except 1 guy it's unlikely to go to in the firstplace
and what makes the cloak good? the on use does nothing for damage
its max ilvl for its track and is well statted (transmog is bis as well)
7
is there an argument against macroing reck + avatar together?
yea
you wanna reck>avatar
For when you want to cast reck, or Ava, but not at the same time
@clever belfry 7
rude?
but i use them together no?
🧐
You can macro reck + avatar together, but if you do, make sure reck is first in the order
yeah
Apart from that, it's always smart to have reck bound on its own
There can be fringe cases where using reck on its own is ideal, and hold avatar for a bit
i have reck+ava and i have reck and ava
like, a macro for both
and both separate
its not like we run out of room.. our entire offensive ability lineup is like 6 buttons
when do you choose Deft Experience before Vicious Contempt in raid?
Which set piece we shouldn't use, legs or shoulders?
leg
whats our worst tier piece?
Yeah, legs then
Mythic hands, trinket is meh
unless your whole group is running it
balls
i had 3 pairs of boots in my vault
🫡
Priory trinket would be awesome on 1.5 min cd, in current state it's meh
Is The Jasper Diamond ring still bugged? is there something about needing a WA for it?
2min cd tho, poop
so it lines up with reck and bt
even at farm i cant imagine any mythic boss lasting less than 2mins
lol
your trinkets are dog 🤣
come on man... wtf is this
me when i cant read
Your trinkets are dog 
??
get in delves
Damn your trinkets are bad bro
😛
from mechagon workshop
oof
how many runs you on for the Floodgate trinket?
I got you beat dawg
wdym
oh god
you even max upgraded it
mythic setpiece is good
🤣
sure but
It's about sending a message Benje
considering you dont raid
The way i see it is you wont ever replace them hands
thats a pretty decent vault
but you will replace signet with Hero track trinkets
still i would nto call that a decent vault
just wait guys, they will nerf mechano and buff buzzer. JUST WAIT 
i took socket on my DH today, had two myth track dungeon trinkets that are dogshit 🤣
the only thing you get are other pieces youre never swapping out
that are a bigger upgrade
thats like
10 items at most
one of the weapons that youre swapping out earlier or later
for what
a better weapon
such as
im not gonna raid much this tier
crafted + myth wep is bis for me most likely
what are those better weapons
look at the wowhead bis list from m+
man i dont really care of the weapon stats as much as wep ilvl
a myth wep is a myth wep
dont know what ur trying to say
that if you get one with better stats you’d replace it
im saying your vault is above average
you got a piece youre not swapping out ever
thats great
well for this tier xD
Going two crafts with double duskthread is 19k dps upgrade over crafting weapon + upgrading a myth piece to max
yea but with my luck getting myth track weapon from m+ ill maybe get one in 10 weeks
its just a boring upgrade
for shoulders
0.2-0.3% upgrade
im guessing
prob 05
sure its 'good' but its nothing exciting
ive already crafted wep
cuz i know im most likely not getting a vault wep anytime soon, as always for the past 3 seasons lol
and even then 19k dps upgrade is what, 0.2%?
when doing 1.7m dps
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vXZDA4VaddtqgHznaZwbrv its actually a bit closer had wrong stats
What simulation style should I run on RaidBots for Mythic+ (AoE)
id do a custom 6 target 40 second sim or something
Style: Cleave Add and 6 Bosses?
thats an intereting setting, is it accurate?
It's accurate for 6 mobs that share the same hp pool and 40s
Rather the same hp amount not pool
I do 8 boss I guess idk
Any eu gamers wanna help me farm floodgate soon?
im just looking for trinket DPS in this instance.
what uptime would you guys sim dawn/duskthread at atm
70
100 so you can blame healers for not hitting your simdps
lol
not wrong
Calling pain sup and bop on cd
Ill give that a shot, thanks 🙂
next season for sure we will be uncapped
surely
Is Jastor Diamond fixed? Or do I have to get the weakaura? 😄
Is there a way I can sim if crafted ascended+ wriste enhancment embelish with capital punisher. Stronger than a Heroic Best in slots with capital punisher? I am not too sure how I would be able to SIM that. If someone know's i'd appreciate it.
Hahaha yeah I absolutely agree with you 😂
I Hope i got that question Right..
Yeah u can sim it with Advanced Option. There u can compare different Gearsets.
why do you see that? ;o
Warrior #1
oh, you attributed it.. -,-
looks like 900k to me, but still a lot
Sent it to a friend of mine who play monks, I bet he gonna send one back with monk buff and druid buff, so on and on

So which one is better for m+? Amplifier or enegy drink
🥲 already have myth circuit breaker and 675 crafted weap.
guys do we get another half spark this week?









