#fury

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pallid tundra
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well are any of the other items simming higher

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if not, its the best

gleaming crag
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all that work to get punched in the dick

pliant prism
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anyone else having issues with the BT crit weak aura not working after lighting up just once or twice

opal monolith
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645 veteran reverb radio vs 665 rookery ally trinket? sims are so close

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idk

compact knot
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is there any way to see what drops from delves between loot specs

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i dont really want arms/fury gear, but i want the energy drink and im not sure if it drops in prot spec

wintry wharf
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as thane, do on we only Thunderblast as a filler, or is it priority over RB/BT at any point? For Single Target

sharp cargo
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idk if im just bad at arms or what

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but im constantly doin more dmg as fury on all content

tidal beacon
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how is our 4 piece dps gain wise?

gleaming siren
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dogwater

tidal beacon
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i was thinking it was trash

warm crag
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u are simming aoe -> 99.999% chance u dont know what ur doing

eager thorn
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i just sim 5 targets 5 mins for my aoe talents and 1 target 5 mins for st spec

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and see what they both say

dense elbow
elfin wagon
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for how much haste should i aim, any point i should hit at least/lowest ?

whole yacht
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the mechano-core amplifier vault item can come from doing 8's of any delve right?

ocean zephyr
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Does that crafting trick still work, where I recraft with a different missive and it counts as 2x items and I can upgrade something else without crests?

limber sleet
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you guys taking mythic gloves or heroic mechano core out of this

i already have mythic seaforium pacemaker and hero signet of the priory

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do we think mechano core amplifier might get nerfed? why is it simming top now I swear it wasn't that high last week

silent swift
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Its always been insane

olive wraith
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Mechano was nerfed twice already and it’s still a great trink

limber sleet
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i took it delve trinkets ftw, if this gets nerfed im going to be 😡

main skiff
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Hey, I just wanted to ask everyone if there was an accepted way to use both house of cards and Best-in-Slots, they put eachother on CD so popping them both is out of the option, so I wanted to know how everyone else is prioritizing?

queen echo
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Got myth track Decimating Decapitator in vault. that paired with a hero track wep woudl be better then the 639 crafted asendance wep? or maybe I swithc to the double duskthread embellishment now?

sick orbit
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Need you guys intuition

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What is my best best?

upbeat plume
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probably the trinket, you have alot better odds of getting a mythic weapon vs a specific myth track trinket

fading bane
potent thicket
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how do I NOT lose the damn streak that fast?

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the tier piece

sick orbit
remote bobcat
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our streak is highly irrelevant compared to other tier sets, aint even gonna lie

sick orbit
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is stupid, the more you rampage which is a lot, you increase the chance to lose it

potent thicket
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yeah wtf

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arms is better

mental jolt
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how much better is new 2pc from old one?

left perch
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1.9% or something

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from no tier

queen echo
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this look right to everyone else? double duskthread would be better then ascendance writhing? asking before I blow my spark making the cloak

torpid elbow
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someone suggested i got a website to look for a clan are any of ya'

torpid elbow
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taking in a fellow warrior lol

dense elbow
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Did you tho, sign up on the website?

torpid elbow
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i need the website name again i had to go to work

queen echo
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no, aoe dungeon slice

olive nest
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oh I was like how TF

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im barely at 2.4 on ST

queen echo
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mb

dense elbow
queen echo
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I just don' wanna make a cloak now and regret it cause I can't make the twohander for ascendance in a week. lol

south kayak
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2% is too low

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And the 4p should also be buffed more than that

olive nest
south kayak
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Remove rage gen from raging blow proc

olive nest
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otherwise you craft weapon

south kayak
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It’s useless

queen echo
olive nest
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nah ilvl is the most important thing on weapons afaik

torpid elbow
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like 9% we our tier is only pushing 4 %

dense elbow
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Butt the tierset, and you got to reduce our baseline numbers

south kayak
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If they buff tier set, they’ll nerf our baseline though

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Rather not get touched

tidal kindle
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Bro my map gave me

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The lens trinket

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Not mechano

south kayak
dense elbow
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gz!

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oh

potent thicket
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rip

dense elbow
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I mean sorry

torpid elbow
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how is signet of prio trinket?

south kayak
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Is Lens not good for arms?

south kayak
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2 min cd

torpid elbow
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damn i got that in my vault lol

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i thought it was good man!

south kayak
torpid elbow
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atleast top 10?

hardy bluff
thorny cove
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why did blizz make it so you need KSL to get non depleting keys once I get 3k I won't even do keys anymore

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and if my key didn't deplete I wouldn't even care about leavers

lime crag
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Let’s just go back to depleting keys at all levels. Double for mechgyrasaur

dense elbow
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To not trap ppl who need to bounce up and down, while they learn the game - dont get hardstuck at a level they are not really to be at. Be it by chance, boost or any other factor.

thorny cove
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@dense elbow could you not just manually lower it with the npc? it should be something that's optional but not forced

dense elbow
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Ye, humans genereally dont work like that. Feeling forced to do that, will be 10x worse than it just being a thing that is done

thorny cove
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idk I still rather have the choice

lime crag
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RBG rating shouldn’t go down either because I lost 10 games in a row

dense elbow
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What is good for you and me, might not be the best for general public

thorny cove
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the whole reason why I hate doing my own in the first place is cuz of leavers/quiters

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feels demoralizing to try and even push your own key

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just feels like unless you main tank/healer good luck getting into groups if you don't have a clique of m+ friends

queen linden
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Anybody know if the jastor diamond is still bugged?

feral ivy
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wtf is with pallys dmg

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11 WS

torpid elbow
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shaman poppin off 2

dense elbow
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Pally strong, or you weak?
Hmms

feral ivy
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i died a few times i to interupts

merry pewter
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random question, is it possible that lower ilvl of the season 1 4p set sims higher than upgrading to Season 2 2p set? basically, just confirming that I shouldn't absolutely upgrade to 2p unless sims say so.

thorn zephyr
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is the weapon machine gob's iron grin any good?

olive wraith
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Sim yo self

spare steppe
graceful elk
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Big Red button any good for a trinket?

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Also is Mountain thane just better for the raid this season?

hollow leaf
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Do you prio LB even on ST?

hollow leaf
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Think the only bosses I've seen people play thane on is stix and (maybe) gallywix

rocky wharf
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4pc was a whole 2k dps increase for me. Two hero track and two champ track

regal mountain
onyx laurel
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Hello, could you help me, what is the best rotation for the Fury Warrior?

lean heart
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fellas i got this shit in vault ran a map delve and looted the trinket lmao

pallid storm
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So do we just go arms for Brew?

edgy widget
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if you have the trinket in the second slot, change 13 -> 14
and if slots is in your offhand, change 16 -> 17

restive peak
azure tulip
restive peak
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Personally I'll be going double dusk

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I mean raider io might not

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The game does

azure tulip
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Just because your numbers on the meter don’t match up to other classes with that one true big aoe, doesn’t mean you’re not doing “more” damage to them

pallid storm
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I mean the hunter did 800k more dps than me.

azure tulip
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Fury’s prio dmg is so strong

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It’s the main reason anyone does big dmg numbers

restive peak
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That doesn't mean he's more valuable

azure tulip
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Make that fight last 20-25 seconds longer, because muscle and chef stays alive

restive peak
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S2/4 fire mage would like to talk

azure tulip
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And their big numbers don’t mean shit

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Compare boss dmg and important add dmg to other classes. Not your full aoe numbers

pallid storm
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Just sucks when they pull 15 mobs and I am hitting 5.

azure tulip
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You say that now

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They uncap us

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We get nerfed

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We are even worse

restive peak
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If we were uncapped we would be insanely broken

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Like insanely absolutely ridiculously broken

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We're extremely strong at our job

azure tulip
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Gotta remember what type of game you’re playing. They don’t take the “lesser” classes and make them better. They take the “better” classes and eventually nerf them to be like the “worse” classes

pallid storm
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I mean most of the other dungeons its not too bad. But brew it just feels terrible. I just don't know how good arms is compared to fury in there.

azure tulip
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I understand your frustration cause I like big numbers

restive peak
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I always end up #2 in brew, even 13s and shit

azure tulip
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Arms is definitely better for “big numbers”

restive peak
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Arms has the same dmg profile as other non-hard capped and they're worse than them

azure tulip
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But fury is just as viable

restive peak
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Fury has a niche and is one of the stronger at it

teal badge
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anyone know how to make the kaching in Archi's BT WA louder? Master Volume doesn't seem to be working for me or maybe I'm deaf

restive peak
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I don't understand why you would ever bring an arms warr over an UHDK for a melee

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Or an assa rogue

quiet breach
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do u go fury for every dungeon no matter how high the key? @restive peak

restive peak
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I do understand why a melee comp w hunter would bring a fury warr for our prio/ST/consistency

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Yeah

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I did a few 12s as arms, it was not better

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I played a 13 DFC with Gajeel as arms and me fury, almost dead even

quiet breach
restive peak
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But I did far, far more boss dam

earnest canyon
restive peak
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I think people are too obsessed with overall

pallid storm
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Me top meters me happy.

restive peak
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People really forget fire mage DF S2 and how it was literally the comp

azure tulip
restive peak
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But it wasn't very high on overall

junior gale
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Monkey brain just see big number and number ontop

restive peak
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Arms is every other high overall class but worse

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Fury has a niche that really is only covered by ignite spec fire mage(none right now), and WW monk

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That makes fury, imo, far more valuable and desireable this tier than arms

junior gale
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Havoc as really really strong prio aswell

restive peak
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But if you only care about overall, play arms

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True

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Forgot havoc, VDH being so prevalent has held them back a bit

junior gale
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ive been blasting on my havoc

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the spec is a lot of fun right now

restive peak
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I feel like you could prot warr/havoc or VDH/fury

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And do very well

junior gale
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yeah im hoping for vengeance nerfs so other tanks to take over and a lot of ppl will want a havoc

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the spec is really good right now

restive peak
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Is it no mover?

junior gale
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yeah

restive peak
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Yeah that'll make it super good

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Mover is always a gamble in M+

junior gale
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the no mover build does do less dmg than if u played the backflip talents

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but its very close

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so no reason to never not play no mover in M+

fervent wind
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I play Fury because 2x Big Weapons > 1x Big Weapon and that's all that really matters.

earnest canyon
wispy fog
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I personally prefer fury in M+ over arms just because colossus arms feels very clunky to play. It feels bad on huge pulls but the boss damage is very good. I've spammed a lot of 10s since season launch and my fury v arms overall can be fairly close depending on key

fervent wind
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Ive always hated Arms playstyle outside PvP

earnest canyon
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Yeah being honest, I dont play arms because it feels like im playing with my feet. Even if its better for mass pulls etc

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just doesnt flow

fervent wind
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Fury feels more spammy which I like

quiet breach
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I play fury cuz Its the only spec I've tried

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xdd

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will learn the other 2 eventually

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I've only been playing a few weeks so

desert pecan
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I've played both, and while both are fun, Fury fits my mindset better.

restive peak
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I've made it a lot of years without learning prot

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And I'm stickin to it bro

pallid storm
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Prot makes me fall asleep.

junior gale
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prot will forever be the worst tank to play imo as long as IP still exists

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the spec doesnt need 2 off gcd mitigations that you need to keep up

desert pecan
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I'd kill for a Fury-Tank style that was all-in on IP, but it sucks to keep it up for Prot, yeah.

spare steppe
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prot warrior is so damn chill still

languid marsh
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so in s2 os bloodlust always a higher prio button to press over raging blow? or only when the button lights up/target is >35%hp

spare steppe
languid marsh
limber sapphire
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i could be wrong though

covert coyote
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in large packs I do BT for the TB's

wanton mirage
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shoul we farm for mechano core amplifier?

covert coyote
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I have been. 4 bountiful + map then 4 easy ones for vault

crimson yew
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Hello guys I have a question so before someone told me that I want to press BT at 85%+ (crit) , below 35% (boss) works the same way or we do it on cd?

earnest canyon
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85% crit is not the same as massive guaranteed damage

coarse sparrow
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If i recraft my 658 weapon to 675 (60 gilded crests), will I then be able to upgrade my mythic vault weapon from 662-675 for stones only or will i still need crests for that as well?

earnest canyon
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also its 75%

torpid elbow
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anyone know which buttons to press to copy and import your weakaura?

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alt z?

coarse sparrow
slim coral
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Stix down boys

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now onto mythic sprocket

modest condor
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grats

earnest canyon
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i loved watching liquid/echo/method do that, but im so glad I will never have to

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at least until im ilevel 680 or next xpac is out lmao

slim coral
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thanks boys

crimson yew
slim coral
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when in aoe spam bt generally

crimson yew
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So when boss is at 35% or below BT is prio over RB?

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Regardless of the % in my WA?

slim coral
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yes pretty much

crimson yew
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Thank you vel

feral ivy
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if i cata something with leech will my cata item have leech?

fickle cedar
buoyant salmon
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sin rogue was insane prio damage

buoyant salmon
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worse prio damage but win overall so looks better on meters gg

quiet breach
torpid elbow
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altz?

cedar geyser
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Feels like a noob question but I can't find an answer - how does MH vs OH work for Fury?

My understanding is that higher ilevel should be MH, but what about items like the best-in-slots that cantrip?

winter shoal
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Me when the tanks decide the best place for the boss is in the middle of the purple beam

modest condor
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skill issue

earnest canyon
cedar geyser
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gotcha. so i expect ilevel just trumps all in that case

earnest canyon
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seems to from simming (im not an expert by any means)

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but yeah, MH ilevel > all it seems

covert coyote
winter shoal
plush ice
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with a 1.5min trinket and B.I.Slots, i use the 1.5 w/ avatar on the opener, and i use BIS when reck comes back off cd i would assume?

modest condor
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yes

summer quail
obtuse hatch
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Does it seem that 15% to reset stacks on rampage seem to be like 60% cause it seems the uptime on the buff is really low.

winter shoal
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The enhanced version the second time

summer quail
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Oh yeahh

gentle meadow
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how big is getting a 2nd myth track wep for us and is it worth using heroic Best in Slots mace over a myth track wep atm?

winter shoal
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That is a sim question

sick viper
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no Jastors diamond shit vault

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Eye of Kezan or Pacemaker?

azure tulip
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That’s even with myth and crafted

slim coral
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I'd sim it tho

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a mythic track pace is pretty nuts but so is an eye of kezan

violet condor
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when are mythic boe's gonne be on ah?

slim coral
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I think it's 4 weeks usually?

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Can't remember the new rules

bitter palm
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kezan kinda ass in m+ so if its something u play

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go with pacemaker

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is that hero track kezan

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if so go pacemaker always

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that shit maxxed is practically bis

grand gazelle
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does anybody know how accurate/good dungeon slice sim is?

haughty stone
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quick question... i got 2 capital punshers, and was able to equip both, just makeing sure this is intended and also im trying to track the industrial runofff debuff but i cant seem to find it anywhere

timber hare
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It's very minimal damage

junior gale
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why would u want to track the debuff?

haughty stone
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to make sure its working...

junior gale
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why would it not work lol

haughty stone
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cuz its not showing up on details, just making sure its not bugged... feel like thats a resonable question

cursive quiver
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It barely does any dmg anyways😅

junior gale
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It shows up on details would check again all the way on the bottoms

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and yeah the dmg is nothing special so little it does not matter at all

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just makes it barely better than an equal ilvl wep

tidal kindle
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@young swan this is just simming better than house/kezan till mythic

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What the hell

pearl sequoia
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Tall today, tiny tomorrow

tidal kindle
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🤌 🤏

restive peak
tidal kindle
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My guild asked me why they gave me kezan/cards

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I'm like

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How was I supposed to know I"d get both delve trinkets week 3...

winter shoal
restive peak
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You were down bad at first

winter shoal
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Someone get my mans a therapist

restive peak
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If that ever becomes necessary ever

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It will be my 13th reason

tidal kindle
junior gale
tidal kindle
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om

slim coral
tidal kindle
slim coral
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getting strong

junior gale
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yup I am correct in decision to never touch delves then

smoky vale
lucid thorn
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uninstall atp

lapis eagle
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help chat tier or bis ? no mythic track weap sadly

young swan
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tier is plentiful, bis is not

modest condor
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belt has a socket

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i'll take it

smoky vale
umbral sparrow
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myth crit/mastery weapon or catalyst legs ?

restive peak
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Myth wep always

young swan
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mythic weapon

restive peak
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Until you have 2 of them

umbral sparrow
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cheers!

slim coral
rough flicker
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if im using hekilis rotation helper or im simming my character, there are often times where the game will choose to raging blow instead of spending rage even though i'm capped. does anybody have any TRUE way to explain to me the priority of raging blow and what percentage im looking to press bloodlust?

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the game will also prioritize execute over rampage even though im fury capped which doesnt make sense to me.

dry spade
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It’ll prio execute if you’re about to drop jugg stacks

young swan
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rage economy is flooded and pressing execute with 3 marked for execute prevents wasted bladestorm CDR + does a lot of damage

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hekili just pulls from the sim APL so its gonna tell u to BT when you have more than like 70% crit (i cant remember the exact number but its around there)

rough flicker
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so a three stack marked for death, as well as prioritizing keeping ashen juggernaut stacked, will take prio over fury cap?

young swan
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3x MFE, 2 sudden death stacks, sudden death expiring soon, juggernaut dropping

silk wharf
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I also believe it sends all the rb's it can, up to 5, after bladestorm.

young swan
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all take precedent over rampage

smoky vale
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also rb after bs

rough flicker
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what conditions do you not press execute then?

smoky vale
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is giga crank

young swan
smoky vale
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hi xan

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didd you win vault

slim grotto
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Realistically how fucked am I by crafting weapon last week instead of offpiece embells?

young swan
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u do not press execute unless if you absolutely have to outside of those conditions

young swan
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i took myth tier helm

oblique trail
rough flicker
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what is the explanation for pressing raging blow over rampage

hardy wadi
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heyyyy small rotation question :D bloodthrist is superior priority in aoe but also on 2 enemies? or is raging blows on 2 enemies better?

rough flicker
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hekili will tell me to raging blow despite max fury

young swan
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raging blow increases the damage of ur next rampage by 20% per stack up to 5

hardy wadi
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slayer anger management

rough flicker
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how does a 20% increase to rampage warrant fury cap?

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am i just looking to get that shit to 3-5 before every rampage?

young swan
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well u only overcap like that after bladestorm

hardy wadi
young swan
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yes, iirc BT only fully overtakes RB at 6 targets and up until that point theres close to 0 difference

rough flicker
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is that because my next rampage after bladestorm is +50 so i want to max rank the rampage?

young swan
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yes

rough flicker
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will you interrupt your raging blow stack for a 3x mfe?

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or sudden death?

dense fulcrum
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What should i get? https://prnt.sc/S8ECf85W3qlt
Best-in-slot is 6/8 champion, circuit breaker is 1/6 mythic, the middle set-body part is eroic 1/6.

Keep in mind i have crafted 675 weapon and 6/6 eroic circuit breaker, but i do not own any set effect (eroic+ tier)

Lightshot

Captured with Lightshot

rough flicker
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are you ever pressing execute on a 2x mfe with a single sudden death stack with lets say ~10 on jugg?

young swan
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execute has like 5 million conditionals to track

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its a real pain in the ass

somber elk
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second myth weapon

young swan
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g

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z\

dense fulcrum
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so the best in slot weapon and the set piece is not worth right xanta

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(im new so bare with me)

young swan
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if its only normal, no

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and 4 set is bad generally speaking

dense fulcrum
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the weapon is normal ye 6/8 champion tier

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the body of the set is heroic

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1/6

young swan
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like its not like you dont want tier, its just not really a huge priority

fiery harbor
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unless you plan to respec

lapis eagle
sturdy river
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Yo anybody else stuck at renown 3 with raid faction? Not receiving any rep from boss kills

rough flicker
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so what would you say the most overlooked, but critical point of managing fury warrior would be? @young swan

sturdy river
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Renown 4 gives 3% damage buff

dense fulcrum
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so weapon should be the best choice it seems

lapis eagle
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for sure

dense fulcrum
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but from raidbot it says 0,1% compared to now xd

young swan
dense fulcrum
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because my circuit breaker is 665

young swan
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link the sim

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not like that

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link the actual raidbots sim u did

dense fulcrum
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i cant link the thing from the addon because on geforce now is not avalaible

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i have to manually add things

earnest canyon
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if im gonna server and possibly faction change as my realm is dead, what is best? weirdly wowhead says void elf

young swan
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void elf

earnest canyon
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why though

young swan
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it does the most damage

earnest canyon
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i dont think that is even unlocked for me

young swan
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and it has a blink

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sort of

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blink from temu

smoky vale
earnest canyon
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i liked dwarf because of the stoneform

young swan
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yes

earnest canyon
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that is OP as hell

young swan
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dwarf is very good as well

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play what u want

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racials are all very close

earnest canyon
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i have no clue what alliance realms are good

young swan
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void elf is the best tho

earnest canyon
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i just cant get someone to craft me a fucking sword here

earnest canyon
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so i have to pay money to change realm to get a sword

young swan
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no such thing as alliance realms and horde realms anymore

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guilds are cross server and cross faction

earnest canyon
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trade chat is dead here

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on my horde realm, its spammed 10000 messages a secon

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d

oblique trail
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The way is to level BS yourself

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So you're not reliant on anyone else

earnest canyon
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lol

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i hate the crafting system they introduced in DF and I hope it dies in a fire

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but yeah, i cant get shit made here where as on all my other chars i can get anything made in 5 seconds

smoky vale
celest hearth
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this still crazy to me

oblique trail
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no gio

smoky vale
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por que

dense fulcrum
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ok so change enchants and picking up the new weapon right?

earnest canyon
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is it worth changing realm just for crafting stuff? Trade chat is literally dead here , I think there are 3 alliance on this sercer

dense fulcrum
vale reef
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got a slight amount of gear

earnest canyon
#

i just want a sword making

dense fulcrum
lapis eagle
#

i saved 30 gilded crests from upgrading offhand choosing bis not bad

final sand
#

little tip create a horde charakter

#

go capital and ask there you can start crafting crossover if you got name and server

#

with the craft task

earnest canyon
#

guilds are cross faction sure, im in one....raids are

#

but crafting? noone is crafting anything here

final sand
#

this works even with players from other servers 🙂

earnest canyon
#

Ive spent 30mins asking

#

ive moved server, its all good

#

scammed again by blizzard

burnt fog
#

how shite is ravenous honey buzzer trinket? 6/6 myth it sims 25k better than my priori champion trinket. but it sounds clunky af and im better off taking the socket for this week right?

earnest canyon
#

how can that ever bee shite

burnt fog
#

is it still bugged like 6 months ago?

#

i guess for the memes

earnest canyon
#

paid for a server transfer and now I just get "login failed" all the time.,....I JUST WANT A SWORD BLIZZARD

young swan
#

personally would take pacemaker

lapis eagle
waxen vale
#

kezan gets worse as your raid gets more geared

young swan
#

pacemaker mythic is bis

#

kezan has ramp time + not great for muh plus

merry pewter
#

killed heroic bandit and got a champion verison of best in slots, is that supposed to happen? isnt it supposed to be hero ?

olive nest
#

is it warbound

#

like did it just go straight into your bags instead of rolling for it

merry pewter
#

ah that would do it

lime crag
remote bobcat
gloomy loom
#

What to get? Bis boots right?

fair thistle
#

i am one of the luckiest i think

#

for once :d

earnest canyon
heavy nacelle
#

Have you tried Losless Scaling? Frame generation from that + 9950X3D feels good raiding with over 200 fps on a 240Hz OLED 😛

slim grotto
#

Rik ST or Cleave spec?

lapis eagle
#

cleave

earnest canyon
#

just too lazy

remote bobcat
#

sim angle

tender seal
restive peak
#

You take mechanocore

#

Bro I am so jellly

twin glacier
remote bobcat
#

but most likely ye

restive peak
#

Thing is goated

rough flicker
#

if a target is below 35% do i press bloodthirst no matter what

#

and what target count does bloodthirst start to be priority?

heavy nacelle
heavy nacelle
earnest canyon
#

so its ripping out the mobo and everything else

heavy nacelle
#

;[

earnest canyon
#

9800x3d has been sat in a box since october? I just cant be arsed

remote bobcat
heavy nacelle
#

and its compatible with gsync

#

and other variable refresh tech 🙂

remote bobcat
#

time to try it out

heavy nacelle
#

yeah best 7 bucks I ever spent lol

remote bobcat
#

its on sale rn

#

for half

heavy nacelle
#

nice 😊

#

I only use the frame gen part not the upscaling

remote bobcat
#

what type of settings are there to look out for?

#

if u dont mind sharing

trail bane
#

Myth track shoulders or heroic track mechano core? (got champion mechano core already)

heavy nacelle
#

I have the latest (v3 I think) frame gen setting and fixed mode (not adaptive) and then the uhh source setting is on the DX... thing I cant remember sorry I'm at work 😛 if you give me a screenshot I can help 🙂

heavy nacelle
quiet prawn
#

Myth track weapon from the vault except I forgot to spec into Arms loot spec

edgy widget
#

should just be permanently set tbh

heavy nacelle
# remote bobcat

and make sure to cap fps in nvidia control panel below monitor refresh divided by 2. So if you're on 240 then cap it on something like 115 (230 with frame gen)

remote bobcat
#

smart

quiet prawn
#

oh I had no idea you should be in arms spec all the time

quiet prawn
#

thanks for the tip

olive wraith
#

That’s great for prot

quiet prawn
#

Shame I'm bad at tanking lol

edgy widget
quiet prawn
#

ah for some reason I thought it would like affect the stats on gear that I get... this is very useful advice actually thank you very much§

remote bobcat
velvet obsidian
#

I mean depending on who you ask you should probably be in arms spec all the time right now as well. But we don't like those people (they're one channel over)

heavy nacelle
remote bobcat
heavy nacelle
edgy widget
heavy nacelle
smoky vale
#

archimtiros have you played ravager slayer yet 🙂

edgy widget
#

as Fury? no that wouldn't be a good idea

#

I played it on Crucible as Arms, that and Mugz (maybe Bandit) are really the only fights I think it has much value on

remote bobcat
#

did it

#

alright

#

lets see

smoky vale
#

its fun

#

until i drop 12 stacks of juggernaut 10 seconds before execute

#

and i lose a rank 1

remote bobcat
# heavy nacelle

shit looked goofy af, and gave me hella input latency, i have to play with the settings

radiant plank
#

Send help

velvet obsidian
#

...why would you run ravager slayer? Doesn't it specifically buff bladestorm I thought?

oblique trail
#

Looks better than my vault

#

Infinitely so

remote bobcat
edgy widget
#

way better than my vault lol

#

man got almost everything he could want

trail bane
#

Someone tell me to take the fury bis belt instead of myth track shoulders or hero track amplifier

eternal sundial
trail bane
#

Since that belt wont show up in my vault again

edgy widget
#

take the thing that gives you the most that's hardest to get again or sidegrade

eternal sundial
radiant plank
#

the mythic weapon

#

the delve trinkets

edgy widget
#

diff between that belt or any other belt is gonna be very small

radiant plank
#

....

eternal sundial
#

1 belt or like 6 shoulders + tier natty drop

trail bane
#

i have veteran track shoulders atm so shoulders sim the best, but i raid mythic in a pretty good guild so i will have myth track shoulders soon anyway

trail bane
#

every fiber of my being tells me to get the belt

eternal sundial
smoky vale
#

(in extended execute)

eternal sundial
#

Ig reclear ass vault

trail bane
#

oh and i have a normal mechano-core already

smoky vale
#

@eternal sundial hii

trail bane
#

so the hc upgrade is only 6 ilvls

smoky vale
#

hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

#

philllllll

eternal sundial
radiant plank
smoky vale
#

i had a cranka tn

eternal sundial
smoky vale
edgy widget
# smoky vale because it does more damage

Bladestorm is better raw damage, though they're very close
Ravager is only better specifically in Execute, hence it's only really great for 2-3 fights

  • Crucible because you can cleave Executes during clash
  • Bandit because you can cleave Executes and it has a notable execute phase
  • Mugz because execute is where most of its damage matters
heavy nacelle
edgy widget
#

all the other fights have adds (Vexie, Rik, Stix) or are just raw throughput (Sprocket)

smoky vale
#

i play it because of the execute damage

#

and i hate bladestorm

edgy widget
#

that's fair, just wouldn't go saying it's more damage as a blanket statement

gloomy loom
#

Boots or belt?

edgy widget
#

the two are extremely close though

edgy widget
smoky vale
#

windows shift s

#

last time i told someone that they just said nah i like using my phone

gloomy loom
#

Took a photo

velvet obsidian
#

I thought execute was beans and we should only really press it to lower BS cool down. Or are we talking VC bloodthirsts?

remote bobcat
edgy widget
#

shoulda took a screenshot then DogeLaugh

wanton patio
#

finally, I replace skarmorak shard

oblique trail
#

ratfang angle

gloomy loom
oblique trail
#

(don't take ratfang)

pulsar bramble
#

Delves trinket hero or nobis stats weapon mythic ?
I main prot normally

heavy nacelle
remote bobcat
heavy nacelle
#

something's gotta be wrong ;o

remote bobcat
#

and it looks hella jittery

summer mirage
#

Am I the only one that's feeling too weak on big pulls ? lol

remote bobcat
#

we are hard capped 5 targets

heavy nacelle
#

which is sad!

remote bobcat
#

it looks smoother without the upscaling

#

wild

heavy nacelle
#

what kind of fps is it showing?

summer mirage
#

yeah, a little aoe buff would be great imo

remote bobcat
#

identical

heavy nacelle
#

let's do it in DMs 😛

slim grotto
#

Bandit, cleave or ST

manic pelican
#

How do we feel about the big red button? ST trink?

oblique trail
#

bad

#

The only thing it's good for is saving crests up to 665

manic pelican
#

I have a champ track house of cards and a champ track priory trink but looted hero track button

oblique trail
#

House of cards is really good, priory kinda ass for warrior

#

Farm out a seaforium from Floodgate if possible, otherwise any other passive trinket

manic pelican
#

Will do

#

Thanks Banezi

velvet obsidian
tidal kindle
#

Brrrro....

#

I got the wrong one hero track

#

On 2nd war

red berry
#

i hope they do a tuning check soon

#

although im not sure we'll get anything

sick viper
#

Italian is so vicious it invented rap

terse meadow
#

hey guys ... if i got crafted 675 1h weap and shield ... can i upgrade a 2h weapon without crests or they still needed ?

remote bobcat
#

for free

#

afaik

terse meadow
#

nnice thy

ornate gust
#

ok ok .. not bad but expected better vault 😅

sick viper
#

damn thats an expensive ass gemstone ring

lapis eagle
oblique trail
#

mate

#

you got a weapon

#

you can't get better vaults

ornate gust
elfin vortex
#

I was so tempted to get the ring , my bis stat atm is haste versa

oblique trail
#

shut up

remote bobcat
#

yo i got ass from this weeks delve map

#

🔥

#

w

radiant plank
oblique trail
#

I don't have a myth weapon

#

so wcyd

#

not spoonfed good vaults

sick viper
#

mickey mouse vaults

radiant plank
oblique trail
#

I have?

#

noob

#

I did it before you

radiant plank
#

gg

smoky vale
#

i increased my hp pot and healthstone usage

#

im improving

oblique trail
#

gj

odd ridge
#

Sim tells me to take the Mythic legs over 2nd weapon and Eye, all fully upgraded. Would I still just take Eye because of how wanted it is

tacit abyss
#

No idea got bis und capital punisher hc equipped

gloomy owl
#

sim it, but prolly house of card or eye of kezan

smoky vale
#

hoc will be better in all situations

tacit abyss
#

Sim says myth weap. But well trinkets are more uncommon?

smoky vale
#

kezan will not be helpful in keys unless your tank pulls around it

#

do heroic and choose

tacit abyss
smoky vale
#

do heroic before choosing

summer mirage
#

Is Slayer too far behind MT in M+ ?

slim coral
#

I would say so

#

I havent played slayer in quiet a while tho

oblique trail
#

From personal experience, it's not unplayably bad if you really want to play it

dense elbow
#

Not really, Slayer does equal or more prio dam. You don't bring Fury for AoE

oblique trail
#

In massive consistent pulls Thane will be better than Slayer, but Slayer still does good

dense elbow
#

I personally just hope for giga buffs for the non-rotationals, so Slayer won't feel as ass on AoE.
Being strong on ST can only carry this much, before the lost AoE drags it down

runic cypress
dense elbow
#

Playing Fury warrior with the intention of carrying the AoE part is trolling

#

Just focus on what Fury does well

wise canyon
#

Which is?

runic cypress
wise canyon
#

Short cleave burst and ST dmg?

dense elbow
#

ST dam and decent passive cleave on limited targets

#

It is normal UDK does 3.5m overall and fury 3m, but Fury does 1.8m st vs DKs 1.2

#

So they got different "jobs"

wise canyon
#

Yeah its been fun apsolutely clapping people on ST

#

I was 100 mil ahead of people on stix

#

(Without roll balls)

wheat oyster
#

what's the reason for thane on bunkjunker? see a lot of fury going thane over slayer

oblique trail
#

Consistent spread cleave

#

Which Thane does better than Slayer

radiant plank
#

Thane is just worse arms for that fight ...

oblique trail
#

ok 2.5 mill dps individual

#

you need to stop coping

radiant plank
#

Ethical guy wcid

oblique trail
#

It's also ethical doing your class' job of killing adds

radiant plank
#

I have 2 boomies, 2 windwankers and SP

#

I doubt we need more killing adds

oblique trail
#

not same

radiant plank
#

and havoc

fierce peak
#

When specced into vicious contempt, do we prio BT > RB in execute phase OR does BT have to have a certain # of stacks of Bloodcraze before it's prio over RB? I'm confused

hardy bluff
#

with vc you hit it on cd basically

fierce peak
#

OK awesome

wheat oyster
#

im guessing it's also reliant on raiders actually rolling ads into boss instead of bombs too

oblique trail
#

well that's kinda what you have to do

hardy bluff
#

yea but no spec saves you from that

oblique trail
#

if they don't there are bigger issues than what spec you're playing

slate light
#

alr bois, please help me out, Gloves sims 0,2% higher then myth track weapon, i already have max crafted +hero galy weapon, myth track weappon still worth taking as its cheap to upgrade?

neat gazelle
#

How often do you guys use defensive stance in mythics? Just when shit starts hitting the fan? Big pulls? Or rarely?

oblique trail
#

There is no clear answer other than when you just need the extra defensive

#

But better to over-use it a bit rather than rarely use it

neat gazelle
#

Thanks for the advice banezi

#

Sometimes I feel like I take heavy dps in these higher keys lol

fiery harbor
#

can macro charge to restore battle stance if you want

neat gazelle
#

So in a melee fight in a pickle taking heavy damage what’s the go to defensives?

#

Also I haven’t played in awhile which is why I sound like a noob

fiery harbor
#

def stance and dbts

#

losing 15% dmg is better than dying and losing 100% dmg

neat gazelle
#

Great point thanks fawx

oblique trail
#

It's only 10% damage lost

#

And reduce 15%

fiery harbor
#

ah ye

wheat oyster
#

and just confirming this is still only when there's a few ads on opener right? because whenever i do it for ST, i dont have enough rage to rampage on my opener

buoyant cape
#

feels so stinky taking a delve trinket over mythic ones

wheat oyster
#

why wouldnt you take myth for crest/stone dump?

buoyant cape
#

meh itd only save 30 crests

#

already have one 665

winter fossil
buoyant cape
#

mechano simming like .5% higher or more and only costs 30, radio would cost 60 to use. p expensive for a worse trinket

winter fossil
# wheat oyster idk what im doing wrong then

I only changed one thing
I cast Recklessness - Charge
And when I reach the boss I cast Avatar with my trinket
The very minimal delay between reaching and pressing avatar will cast auto attack and generate rage for your rampage after Avatar

fiery harbor
#

before you take it from vault

tired root
#

Is there any probability that signet of priory trinket would be bis for arms even maybe for fury later in patch?

winter fossil
buoyant cape
#

🙏

fiery harbor
#

it won't be bis but it's not the worst trinket at all

tired root
#

I understand, thank you both

dull quarry
#

Hey, is this viscera trink a bait or is it actually good?

rare forum
#

Guys, HC mechano-core or mythic chest?

sudden timber
#

🤔 was planning to play arms a lot so crafted 2h weap.. but now I get myth weapon in vault xD think I may just play fury with the 2!

mellow wave
quaint stag
simple shell
#

I have a maxed myth wep MH and Best-in-slot normal OH, is it worth to craft weapon or go with crit emb on off-pieces

mellow wave
mellow wave
slim grotto
#

Are you guys holding out for Kezan or running House of Cards / mechano ?

mellow wave
#

I already got the Eye on nhc so I am looking for mechano for ST and on use for bursts & aoe

slim grotto
#

HOC = burst? Kezan = sustain? Is that how it's understood?

hybrid willow
#

Do you guys track the "best in slots" on use effect with your trinket or is there some smart way with a macro

chrome plover
#

delves done bedge

sudden tusk
chrome plover
remote bobcat
chrome plover
#

also runed done

remote bobcat
#

so happy

remote bobcat
chrome plover
#

same except i have to do delves for half a spark anyway keksquad

hardy bluff
#

can just not do it

#

you get it next week anyway

chrome plover
#

my other trinket is house of cards

chrome plover
tidal kindle
#

My char has infinity mastery and barely enough haste though

mellow wave
slim grotto
forest owl
#

shit vault no surprise

mellow wave
tardy lark
quiet pier
#

☝🏽

unreal onyx
#

I stg if I get dogged on my vault I will be sad

#

3x hc, 3x10 and some delves

#

Has to give goos stuff clueless

slim grotto
forest owl
tardy lark
#

If you take hands its 1 less person who needs that tier token or is able to use another offpiece. Its not a solo game my man

#

but easily getting rare cloak in raid

#

sus

forest owl
#

and what makes the cloak good? the on use does nothing for damage

tardy lark
#

its max ilvl for its track and is well statted (transmog is bis as well)

clever belfry
haughty quest
#

is there an argument against macroing reck + avatar together?

remote bobcat
#

you wanna reck>avatar

dense elbow
#

For when you want to cast reck, or Ava, but not at the same time

lost saffron
#

@clever belfry 7

rotund ginkgo
oblique trail
haughty quest
#

but i use them together no?

rotund ginkgo
#

🧐

oblique trail
#

You can macro reck + avatar together, but if you do, make sure reck is first in the order

haughty quest
#

yeah

oblique trail
#

Apart from that, it's always smart to have reck bound on its own

#

There can be fringe cases where using reck on its own is ideal, and hold avatar for a bit

rotund ginkgo
#

i have reck+ava and i have reck and ava

#

like, a macro for both

#

and both separate

#

its not like we run out of room.. our entire offensive ability lineup is like 6 buttons

simple shell
#

when do you choose Deft Experience before Vicious Contempt in raid?

viral gulch
#

Which set piece we shouldn't use, legs or shoulders?

haughty quest
#

leg

vale dove
#

whats our worst tier piece?

viral gulch
#

Yes

#

Legs i think?

vale dove
#

oh lol

#

both are crit haste, but legs is heavy crit and shoulders heavy haste

viral gulch
#

Yeah, legs then

rotund ginkgo
#

mythic hands or mythic priory trinket

#

hmmge

vale dove
#

hmmges

#

Priory trinket is meh

viral gulch
vale dove
#

unless your whole group is running it

rotund ginkgo
#

my current trinkets are hella ass

#

im just simming

clever belfry
vale dove
#

i had 3 pairs of boots in my vault

oblique trail
vale dove
#

🫡

viral gulch
#

Priory trinket would be awesome on 1.5 min cd, in current state it's meh

rotund ginkgo
bleak tundra
#

Is The Jasper Diamond ring still bugged? is there something about needing a WA for it?

rotund ginkgo
#

priory simply outsims by quite a big margin

#

5min ST

slim grotto
#

2min cd tho, poop

rotund ginkgo
#

so it lines up with reck and bt

#

even at farm i cant imagine any mythic boss lasting less than 2mins

#

lol

vale dove
#

your trinkets are dog 🤣

rotund ginkgo
#

YES

#

IM AWARE

#

BENJE

heavy dock
#

come on man... wtf is this

rotund ginkgo
vale dove
#

xD ye but i didnt think theyd be that bad

#

haha

lost saffron
rotund ginkgo
#

??

vale dove
#

get in delves

rotund ginkgo
#

i cant GUARANTEE it drop can i benje

radiant plank
lost saffron
#

just be more lucky

#

solved

rotund ginkgo
#

true

#

my friend took 46 runs to get the cloth wrists

vale dove
#

😛

rotund ginkgo
#

from mechagon workshop

vale dove
#

oof

rotund ginkgo
#

he did it in a day and a half

#

he literally spammed it

vale dove
#

how many runs you on for the Floodgate trinket?

heavy dock
#

how bad is the red button trinket

#

this might be the worst vault ever

slim grotto
lost saffron
#

wdym

vale dove
rotund ginkgo
vale dove
#

you even max upgraded it

lost saffron
#

mythic setpiece is good

vale dove
#

🤣

heavy dock
#

sure but

slim grotto
#

It's about sending a message Benje

heavy dock
#

2 shoulders?

#

cmon

lost saffron
#

considering you dont raid

vale dove
lost saffron
#

thats a pretty decent vault

heavy dock
#

i have 4 set full hero

#

ig

vale dove
#

but you will replace signet with Hero track trinkets

heavy dock
#

still i would nto call that a decent vault

lost saffron
#

its a good upgrade

#

definitely above average vault

slim grotto
#

just wait guys, they will nerf mechano and buff buzzer. JUST WAIT chatting

lost saffron
#

a piece that youre never swapping out

#

this content

vale dove
#

i took socket on my DH today, had two myth track dungeon trinkets that are dogshit 🤣

lost saffron
#

the only thing you get are other pieces youre never swapping out

#

that are a bigger upgrade

#

thats like

#

10 items at most

heavy dock
#

one of the 50 weapons from m+

#

some good trinkets there too

#

delve trinket hah

lost saffron
#

one of the weapons that youre swapping out earlier or later

heavy dock
#

for what

lost saffron
#

a better weapon

heavy dock
#

such as

#

im not gonna raid much this tier

#

crafted + myth wep is bis for me most likely

lost saffron
#

then any m+ weapon with better stats

#

which is 1 that is the best

heavy dock
#

what are those better weapons

lost saffron
#

look at the wowhead bis list from m+

heavy dock
#

man i dont really care of the weapon stats as much as wep ilvl

#

a myth wep is a myth wep

#

dont know what ur trying to say

chrome plover
#

that if you get one with better stats you’d replace it

lost saffron
#

im saying your vault is above average

#

you got a piece youre not swapping out ever

#

thats great

#

well for this tier xD

vale dove
#

Going two crafts with double duskthread is 19k dps upgrade over crafting weapon + upgrading a myth piece to max

heavy dock
#

yea but with my luck getting myth track weapon from m+ ill maybe get one in 10 weeks

#

its just a boring upgrade

#

for shoulders

#

0.2-0.3% upgrade

#

im guessing

#

prob 05

#

sure its 'good' but its nothing exciting

heavy dock
#

cuz i know im most likely not getting a vault wep anytime soon, as always for the past 3 seasons lol

#

and even then 19k dps upgrade is what, 0.2%?

#

when doing 1.7m dps

vale dove
hushed relic
#

What simulation style should I run on RaidBots for Mythic+ (AoE)

vale dove
hushed relic
#

Style: Cleave Add and 6 Bosses?

heavy dock
rotund ginkgo
#

It's accurate for 6 mobs that share the same hp pool and 40s

vale dove
#

^^ xD

#

theres no accurate way to sim M+

rotund ginkgo
#

Rather the same hp amount not pool

#

I do 8 boss I guess idk

#

Any eu gamers wanna help me farm floodgate soon?

hushed relic
#

im just looking for trinket DPS in this instance.

vale dove
#

what uptime would you guys sim dawn/duskthread at atm

radiant plank
#

70

vale dove
#

ye thats what i thought

#

seeing people on stix with 80%

mossy fox
#

100 so you can blame healers for not hitting your simdps

hushed relic
#

lol

vale dove
#

not wrong

radiant plank
hushed relic
heavy dock
#

next season for sure we will be uncapped

slim grotto
#

surely

heavy dock
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8 target cleave pls

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atleast

remote haven
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Is Jastor Diamond fixed? Or do I have to get the weakaura? 😄

wicked turret
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Is there a way I can sim if crafted ascended+ wriste enhancment embelish with capital punisher. Stronger than a Heroic Best in slots with capital punisher? I am not too sure how I would be able to SIM that. If someone know's i'd appreciate it.

mellow wave
mellow wave
dense elbow
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What they see:

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What I see:

heavy nacelle
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why do you see that? ;o

dense elbow
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Warrior #1

heavy nacelle
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oh, you attributed it.. -,-

gleaming siren
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Wow

heavy nacelle
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looks like 900k to me, but still a lot

dense elbow
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Sent it to a friend of mine who play monks, I bet he gonna send one back with monk buff and druid buff, so on and on

half pond
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So which one is better for m+? Amplifier or enegy drink

sinful glen
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🥲 already have myth circuit breaker and 675 crafted weap.

sand crest
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guys do we get another half spark this week?