fury

[hazy iron]

hmm i think i understand

ill try simming with future options

and see which is better

thx

[dense elbow]

No worries, also don't forget, even if you get it wrong. It won't matter for long. Options will be plenty in a couple more weeks either way.
Then you can really start having fun pushing stats around to observe its effects in practical use

Archi explains it in detail in his WoWhead guide, #dps-faq. You can also search the discord for others opinions on the matter.
Either way, before you decide, remember to open your vault

[novel brook]

Thank you sir!

[merry zinc]

Those of you running 10s+, are you rocking MT or Slayer?? Something about MT I’m not enjoying and wondering if you guys are having success with slayer.

[novel brook]

been doing MT

[dense elbow]

Got alright success as Slayer, and that is with Odyns Fury on top. AoE is for sure weak, and you will have your team carry that part. Still, you will have quite strong ST and can kind of carry your weight from that angle.

Think many to most will agree that top dam being on bosses, is worth more than twice that value on kobolds and similar pad trash

[obsidian yarrow]

MT feels better than slayer in packs and still does more than enough dps on bosses. There’s less “downtime” between packs cos your cleave is just consistently higher than slayer

And stomping is fun.

[jolly topaz]

Which trinket is better for fury? The amplifier dropped in delve or the pacemaker.

[smoky vale]

ask the robot for your specific case

[sick viper]

amplifier is dogshit

[smoky vale]

i mean thats just not true

but

[modest condor]

grats on the 2 wrist 1 cloak

[sick viper]

I simmed it one time and it brought my dps down lol

but always sim for yourself

[compact knot]

this actually might be the worst thing ive ever heard someone say ever

[modest condor]

[compact knot]

heroic amplifier is almost equal to mythic eye and mythic house of cards

[sick viper]

must be thinking about another trinket then

[sick viper]

yeah not that one

u get that from delves?

[compact knot]

yeah

[sick viper]

must be thinking about the trink that makes u big

n small

[compact knot]

should be doing delves as melee dps, the amplifier and energy drink are quite literally very close to 678 mythic trinkets at 665 ilvl

[sick viper]

Im an energy drink enjoyer

[compact knot]

funhouse lens is too

[modest condor]

i had energy drink in my vault this week but chose not to take it

been using champ track lens and amplifier

[compact knot]

i got hero amplifier from my delvers bounty

[sick viper]

my energy drink is still champ lol

[compact knot]

thats fine

champ energy drink is still good

[modest condor]

i got a ring and a weapon from my bounties

[compact knot]

i got the cringe molearm from my first one, then the amplifier from my second one

went from turbo dogshit to the best item i could get

[modest condor]

:D

[tidal kindle]

Nerf W mog

What the

0.06% chance

[compact knot]

for a 2 hander that looks like a one hander

hell yeah

[tidal kindle]

Goat fury wep

[modest condor]

not even a cool weapon

[tidal kindle]

I like the simple stuff

[compact knot]

rare = cool

[sick viper]

I got tusks before they gave it out in mop remix

first attempt of siege too

[modest condor]

oh i got a funny drop once

lemme see if i can find it

[tidal kindle]

Rarest item in wow

[sick viper]

idrc about rare unless the mog looks good

all about style

[slim coral]

Bro DH is a menace on stix

It’s crazy

[modest condor]

http://puu.sh/KkMYM/11850358fe.png

that item has a 0.1% droprate

and i got 2 in a row

[slim coral]

W

[sick viper]

damn so tusks is .2%

rip to anyone that didnt play remix lmfao

[slim coral]

How did mage and WW get past the op door

[modest condor]

because mage is mage

[slim coral]

Wasn’t warrior looking the best going in

[modest condor]

and devs forgot about ww

[sick viper]

warr fell off

or is falling off

[modest condor]

i mean arms got a ninja 15% nerf to execute

[slim coral]

I swear I never heard anyone talking about WW

[modest condor]

ww was definitely known about

[slim coral]

Interesting

[modest condor]

dont think people knew it would be this strong tho

just that it was gonna be strong

[slim coral]

It’s like fury in nerubar

The burst is nuts

I thought I liked having a flat damage profile but now I realize it’s kinda mid

[olive wraith]

S3 df!

[sick viper]

annihilator bis

[modest condor]

delete annihilator

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

anytime am is on top you just know fury is dogshit

always been the case

[modest condor]

funny way of saying you dont play the game

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-sechi-ellen-joe-zenless-zone-zero-dance-gif-5990485397358340750

[sick viper]

so true

[sullen dove]

It’s better now than in df cuz ur not banking on Mickey Mouse uf procs to keep your precious 98% reck uptime to play the game

but still buttons just do zero damage

[modest condor]

yeah you already told us you dont play the game you dont have to repeat yourself

[slim coral]

Yeah I liked the big spikes last tier

[sullen dove]

[sick viper]

anything better than s2 df

[slim coral]

Buff OF

Bring back real cds

[sullen dove]

buff of 🙏

[sick viper]

buff of

[sullen dove]

The one time funky is not yapping for fun

[slim coral]

These Mickey Mouse CDs blow

[sullen dove]

he right on that

50% dmg buff make up for losing 33% of all ofs last season

[sick viper]

we're the real 🤡's now

[slim coral]

Real

It’s just crazy we get gapped by 200 mil on pure boss dmg in stix

And we lose in aoe

[sullen dove]

who is we

[slim coral]

Fury

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/ben-bigger-ben-zenless-zenless-zone-zero-ben-wider-gif-2796424684815859266

[sick viper]

da bear

[sullen dove]

benjamin

[sick viper]

that guy should get a brooklyn accent smh

[slim coral]

How is this balanced

[sullen dove]

CAN WE NERF ROLLING RUBBISH

[clever path]

We are all being beaten by a literal ball of trash

[slim coral]

Nerf mage

Spec too op

Does Boomkin aoe while in ST

[thorny cove]

what's best possible dungeon loot tomorrow? myth track somber fate?

[slim coral]

Weapon

[eager thorn]

delve trinket so you can be free from torture

[modest condor]

me when i link a grey parse

[thorny cove]

@eager thorn

[eager thorn]

ok i dont want to see that

now im sad

im still rocking myth sacbrood cos i havent had a single trinket drop that beats it

[modest condor]

damn

tbf i didnt replace my heroic sacbrood until this week

[thorny cove]

I only just finally got 655 pacemaker today

[hollow canopy]

When using raidbots is there a way to tell it just look at all gear you have set to a specific ilvl and then compare?

[eager thorn]

still have 639 helm and sureki neck too

just cant get loot in some slots from keys

[somber elk]

Same for me

[thorny cove]

ya I couldn't get any boots so I bought conquest ones 🤣

[sick viper]

my sureki neck is 626 lol

and I got blue boots

[thorny cove]

I for some reason could not for the life of me loot boots or a cloak

but I can't complain cuz I got both dungeon bis trinkets

[sick viper]

same with ring lol

[sullen dove]

mfs didnt do the circlet ring crest save tech

classic

[thorny cove]

im even more dumb I upgraded rings and then went back and got my circlet upgraded a couple days later 🤣

[sick viper]

mistakes were made

plus I started right when the raid dropped lol

still got aotc last minute tho

[thorny cove]

I also thought I was gonna pvp first couple weeks but decided to just get pve out of the way and wasted my tier charges on pvp gear

[sick viper]

I can go back to playing KCD2 now

[thorny cove]

is next weeks affixes gonna be aids?

[sick viper]

hearing max play Colgera's theme for mythic gally makin me wanna reboot tears of the kingdom tbh

https://tenor.com/view/ganondorf-suavemente-dancing-gif-11473576212987542412

[oblique trail]

@clever belfry anda more like Wokeda

[buoyant salmon]

banezi more like deez nutzi

get it

[quiet breach]

got my key to +8 by being picky 😄 @winter shoal . didn't time the +8 but got hero track boots and chest

[lost saffron]

@oblique trail its time to shrink!!

[vocal igloo]

@edgy widget should bt crit WA be <35% or <=35%? the talent reads below 35% not at or below

[oblique trail]

Time to expand

[edgy widget]

how much time do you think the highest feasible health target spends at exactly 35.0% health?

[vocal igloo]

i guess it's more of a WA question if it'll start triggering at lets say 35.9%

[edgy widget]

no, 35.9 is not = 35
I set it to <= because I want that extra split second of lead time on the alert, since physical reaction time is a thing, but by the time you see it light up and press that button, even the highest health target will already have dropped below 35.0%, so the likelihood of you getting the alert and using Bloodthirst at exactly 35.0% is effectively zero

[quiet breach]

yo so I was doing a +8 floodgate just now and I literally could not stand anywhere near bubbles without taking an insane amount of dot damage, can someone explain how to mitigate that? I wasn't standing in bad or anything

[edgy widget]

it has a cast that puts a stacking debuff on you, spell reflect it

[quiet breach]

ok thx

[junior gale]

its a nice dmg reflect too

[lost saffron]

Pee

[quiet breach]

just had another leaver, I think I'm done doing pugs bro. gonna hit up wow made easy because they ban u if u leave. (or just do it with guild)

I honestly don't even mind that much if I can't time the key but stick around for the loot and crests at the end if we are already halfway thru like jesus

[native wadi]

+8 is mostly alters already

So if you dont blast ppl are more keen to leave

Just be patient do your own rythm play tank too for quick queues etc

[young swan]

i tanked a +7 cinder with a mage that was doing half my damage and dying on cooldown

u can bet ur ass im not sticking around for that

the other players werent fantastic either but at least had hands

sometimes u just have to cut ur losses

[fading sky]

M+ is a timer based, if u did not state weekly or finish even if not timed

[oblique trail]

If I saw someone called Xantaga in my key I think I'd also consider leaving mid key

[lucid thorn]

did critcake ever find out why he got banned or was it just blizzards infallible anticheat at work again

Sorry if that was a stream I missed lol

[mossy fox]

nope, didnt get an explanation

[clever belfry]

i am woke

[chilly elbow]

Did u use ahk?

[mossy fox]

no

[azure holly]

does exec have higher prio while stacking up juggernaut?

[mossy fox]

every input is manual

[open mountain]

are u banned? 😦 did not follow streams past weeks

[mossy fox]

no im unbanned now

[open mountain]

ah, welcome back 🙂 nice just found a reddit thread about the issue. this false positives are really strange

[fervent yoke]

Trying that new BT weak aura man I was pressing BT way too much

[open mountain]

which one?

[lapis eagle]

so when u send it 50% crit ?

[fervent yoke]

https://wago.io/hKMfHReC2

Yeah like 4/5 stacks or when mobs health is low

[lapis eagle]

i mean i have luxthos pack don't wanna clutter my ui with one more wa

[fervent yoke]

It’s tiny, it has a “ka-Ching” sound when to use if you wanna not have the icon

[lost saffron]

how about

replacing your bt icon with it

thoughts????

[fervent yoke]

That’s what I did

[lapis eagle]

ok i will try it

[fervent yoke]

I put it on top of my BT WA icon so the proc will overlap regular BT icon

[lost saffron]

i mean thats the most efficient way

thats what most uis do

they just have it in one place

[azure holly]

sounds inefficient to me

[fervent yoke]

ye it’s working nice, but between that and the sudden death proc WA I’m hearing ka-Ching a lot lol

we need a zug zug sound option

[radiant plank]

what if

what if

you changed the sound

[azure holly]

you can add custom sounds and use that in WA

[undone flower]

And what if you put this WA inside your luxthos package

[azure holly]

then the user would need to add it too yeah

[radiant plank]

Weakaura literacy is dead

[undone flower]

A lot don’t know they can put WAs in a pack and they will follow the position and rules of it

[fervent yoke]

🤓🤓🤓

[lapis eagle]

can i hide the icon and leaveon kaching ?

only*

[gleaming siren]

yes

[lapis eagle]

how 😮 EXPLAIN

[gleaming siren]

Change Aura to Text, make the text it displays empty

[fervent yoke]

Cev just remember that you still will press BT outside that WA once in a while too it’s situational so still gotta use your brain

[lapis eagle]

yeah that's why i wanna see luxthos burst of power procs

[radiant plank]

why

Burst of power doesnt affect the rotation

[red berry]

i managed to pick up a mechano

but i really am attached to my eye of kezan

it actually does great when you can get the stacks. in certain keys, you maintain that shit so easily

[fading sky]

Mechano HC ?

[clever belfry]

never existed

[lapis eagle]

still have skarmorak hero track in second slot... not even signet from priory or even torqs droped...

[fading sky]

im using goblin trinket from raid and Suspisious energy drink

No trinkets no drop

[red berry]

nah, both are champion track

[radiant plank]

7

[fading sky]

id 100% use mechano

its just strong

[red berry]

i could also replace that annoying ass trinket from priory with it

[lapis eagle]

but at least i have hero track pace with leech xd

[red berry]

which is my second slot

[remote bobcat]

@earnest canyon is just giga like that

[clever belfry]

rude

[earnest canyon]

eeeeh....im bad....but thanks

[tardy lark]

@radiant plank https://www.twitch.tv/gromnak/clip/BoldPuzzledDuckUncleNox-vEo_RIf-Bjiaobr4

[radiant plank]

Cannot fathom how he is this skilled at the video game

[tardy lark]

built better

[bitter palm]

ex limit raider activities 🥀

[earnest canyon]

Never played katamari
https://youtu.be/JHsFcSNFUMc?t=49

[rocky wharf]

lock n stalk trinket showing both buffs, visual bug? hacks?

[coarse nest]

Visual bug I get the same thing right now

You can hover the trinket to see witch one is currently active

[indigo arch]

Why must alt ret keys make me want fury uncapped so much

[gleaming siren]

King

[spare steppe]

if i get a mythic weapon from the vault, what else is needed with duskweave to be competitive with Ascendance?

[chrome plover]

i think it needs to be myth best in slots or capital punisher to compete

or maybe even both?

[hardy bluff]

i run hc best in slots with myth weapon

[chrome plover]

I crafted double dusk with a myth vault weapon + capital punisher but ascendance + nerubian still sims better, at least on a 5 min fight

[hardy bluff]

yea i just want to play arms and fury so i didnt craft weapon

[chrome plover]

yeah exactly, same as me

but for pure fury, even with myth vault weapon, a weapon craft is a better option

[hardy bluff]

embelishments are so shit it doesnt matter really

[chrome plover]

yep

[alpine socket]

Guys , i have 2 665 weapons . Should i craft a 675 wep or 2 offsets with vers embelish ?

[wispy ermine]

I feel so usseles doing +11/+12... I'm always last in damage, is it me or we can't compete vs a lot of classes?

[chrome plover]

if you dont play any arms and arent killing mythic gally/bandit, you should craft a weapon

there is a LOT of high mob count pulls in this rotation, which fury isnt very good at

[alpine socket]

Its literally fine if you don't die multiple times you should be doing 2.7-3mil overall

and thats okay

you cant compare to destro lock, bm hunter and etc broken classes

[wispy ermine]

In bigs pull i do like 5M and ferals, retris, mages, shaman, dhs... are doing like 10M holy fuck XD

[alpine socket]

destro on the first pull in meadery 11 pulled a 23mil untill the adds died

i was ready to give up

xD

[wispy ermine]

HAHAHA

[chrome plover]

yeah u switch to arms and do 10m too

[alpine socket]

after i saw that i felt like a passenger princess untill the end of the key

free boost i gues

[mossy fox]

play arm so you're not hardcapped to 5

[chrome plover]

it feels good pressing cleave

and then pressing cleave

[alpine socket]

it was so boring to play arms i almost fell asleep in my first key

[chrome plover]

and then pressing cleave

[mossy fox]

fury still does fine tbh, yes you'll look bad on the big pulls but you kinda always do the same damage whereas other classes usually have higher highs and lower lows

[alpine socket]

they gonna buff fury right guys ? dies in cope

[chrome plover]

yeah fury is still deleting bosses and most of the pulls in ToP

[chrome plover]

definitely not

[clever belfry]

to buff fury they can just touch the aoe buttons

[mossy fox]

meat cleaver 8 goooo

[chrome plover]

meat cleaver 8 surely

[clever belfry]

outlaw talent

outlaw talent

[wispy ermine]

I think they should buff 4p tier set, its fucking dogshiiiiiiiiiiiiiit

[alpine socket]

all they need to do is remove the cap on odyn's and we are competitive again

[chrome plover]

but then i have to press odyns again

[clever belfry]

that would solve nothing

even if odyns was actually uncap

you wouldnt pick it

[mossy fox]

meat cleaver 5 with square root scaling goooo

[clever belfry]

removing it from torment and nerfing it is just meowmeow

[chrome plover]

that'd be crazy

[mossy fox]

just gushing wounds everything

[clever belfry]

mouseover bloodthirst like its bfa s3

💀

[wispy ermine]

arms does a lot more overall damage than fury? or is it only in big pulls cause of uncapped?

[mossy fox]

yes and yes

in a pug priory from a couple of days ago, no PI on me, it went to boomy

[south kayak]

I had a really weird skyhold dream

I need to stop

[wispy ermine]

damn

[tardy lark]

and this only happens outside MBG buff

and im fuming

[wispy ermine]

I feel bad playing arms because i'm used to fury survability, I feel like paper as arms XD

[south kayak]

So boring

[radiant plank]

Holy and I thought my 3.5m overall from the bee dungeon was good

[radiant plank]

Skill issue

especially post patch

[wispy ermine]

ofc I'm a fury player

[tardy lark]

gotta funnel those cleaves on last pakc before boss

[south kayak]

[heavy dock]

fury just feels more fun

i tried arms too but it feels like the hits have no impact

just some weird cutting noises

[radiant plank]

Obviously

[south kayak]

I find fury more fun than arms

[radiant plank]

cleave ms op prio when more than 2 targets

and that pack has 4

[mossy fox]

i should prolly upload this key huh, probably easy clicks if i put the overall dam in thumbnail

[chrome plover]

I find it more fun than fury for the first time ever

in keys at least

[heavy dock]

as fury i see myself last dps in pulls more often than not but somehow at the end of the key im #1 overall lol

[radiant plank]

Remember to put "NO PI" disclaimer

[heavy dock]

guess consistent dmg is good too

[mossy fox]

for sure

[south kayak]

Nerf hammer incoming

[clever belfry]

weak

[heavy dock]

idk why capped specs even exist anymore

like who is actually target capped like us

[clever belfry]

mm

[radiant plank]

im not loot funneled like you and Crit buddy

[heavy dock]

like a few other specs only right

[tardy lark]

mm and rogue

[clever belfry]

just be funneled cause ur in on every boss?

im only 660.31

[radiant plank]

i am in every boss

grrr

[clever belfry]

dont even have kezan or ring?

[chrome plover]

anda 665 ilvl i heard

[heavy dock]

only

[mossy fox]

im similar as andaw

[radiant plank]

Anda 667 last I heard

[tardy lark]

how many gilded susge

[clever belfry]

45

[radiant plank]

im 660 0 gilded

[clever belfry]

so i couldnt craft wep after the change :)

[lost saffron]

Just dont be funneled and dont be in on any boss

[heavy dock]

me here with 653

[radiant plank]

[tardy lark]

661 with 0 gilded

[junior gale]

Real question is will BS receive buffs next tuning patch because of the arms Rav Slayer situation or will this be completely ignored

[lost saffron]

problem solved

[tardy lark]

[clever belfry]

dogshit company

:)

[chrome plover]

im actually 660 with 45 gilded too uh oh

[mossy fox]

been trying rly hard to get cloak and boots to drop at 655 but im stuck with 652

[clever belfry]

im on 639 kneck

ofc

[south kayak]

i am 654

[radiant plank]

Sikran neck still bis

[south kayak]

lmao

triple edit

[clever belfry]

🛏️ >

[radiant plank]

too many beds

[heavy dock]

i changed to meadery 652 neck

[tardy lark]

i had meadery neck sim 10k higher

[clever belfry]

yeah meadery kneck sims higher

but it needs

to drop for that

[tardy lark]

ez ilvl

[radiant plank]

Ugly ass mog btw

[clever belfry]

:))

[tardy lark]

8 runs

its easy

[clever belfry]

opinion rejected 👍

[radiant plank]

Meadery neck sims lower for my arms

[junior gale]

Just get it to drop what's the big deal

[heavy dock]

evoker warrior

[south kayak]

wanna hear a tragedy

[radiant plank]

and im playing arms on every boss

[sweet basin]

is there any dummy that has lots of health?

[radiant plank]

🛌

[south kayak]

i got meadery necklace but it dropped as champion warbound

[clever belfry]

ive only done 14 runs
but havent seen anyone loot it

[heavy dock]

ive got it on my 2nd meadery

[tardy lark]

had a run where 3 was looted

[heavy dock]

hero track

[south kayak]

I saw 2 people loot it in one run

[heavy dock]

[sweet basin]

cant compare simc output with mine because of excute time in targetdummy 😦

[tardy lark]

2 655 and 1 warbound

[south kayak]

I got the warbound one

:chatting

I'd take it over nothing

but sucks

[chrome plover]

i got mine on march 6th

slackers

[south kayak]

susge

[mossy fox]

is that a champ or hero white monster

[clever belfry]

champ

i was gonna take it from vault on hero this week

but i got it on my 4 delves 👍

[mossy fox]

nice

[clever belfry]

(i took hole instead 👍)

[mossy fox]

i also had it in vault but had 668 tier legs so had to take that

[clever belfry]

i had turbo trash

[clever belfry]

revvez bracers

holym oly

[tardy lark]

had BIS in vault

[south kayak]

i had hero mecha

but i took champ eye

[mossy fox]

wait what

[clever belfry]

turbo F vault

wcyd

[mossy fox]

you had hero mechano core?

[south kayak]

yes

[radiant plank]

didnt do all delves

slacker

[clever belfry]

im not doing more than 4 delves

👍

[radiant plank]

its only 8...

[clever belfry]

im not giving them engagement metrics on shit content

[south kayak]

I already have champ mechano core and eye was simming a lot higher

so idk

[mossy fox]

[snow edge]

[alpine socket]

I got happy when i saw it drop and then i got sad again

[south kayak]

i don't care

[clever belfry]

i now have strong revvez bracers tho

[south kayak]

it's an alt

[mossy fox]

i'd have taken the core, eye on champ so easy to replace

[mossy fox]

insane

[heavy dock]

how does the roulette ring work in vault

is it already rolled

[clever belfry]

what do u think

h/m means

[south kayak]

that alt is not even doing heroic sprocket

so it's not gonna matter

[clever belfry]

on the image

[heavy dock]

oh i read that as HIM

[clever belfry]

HIM

vs

HER

[heavy dock]

didnt rly know what that meant lol

[clever belfry]

this one was HASTE/MASTERY

[fading bane]

You guys didnt get Jastor in vault?

[clever belfry]

haste being named first as its the big stat 👍

[heavy dock]

lemme guess it rolled more in haste

[clever belfry]

silence norwegian

[heavy dock]

ah

unlucky

damn yall mythic raiding in here

[heavy dock]

nice ring

[radiant plank]

Goggles

..

[south kayak]

apogee

[mossy fox]

"RE-EQUIP JASTOR"

[south kayak]

is jastor bis for arms too

[fading bane]

Pretty sure they hotfixed that

[fading bane]

Yup

[mossy fox]

oh good

[south kayak]

is it high mastery low haste

or opposite

[clever belfry]

classique buggington

[fading bane]

High mastery

[heavy dock]

very high mastery

[mossy fox]

ye the sword is broken

[heavy dock]

like 1000 haste 6000 mastery lol

[fading bane]

My arms sims have been favouring mastery

[clever belfry]

only the normal variant tho...

[mossy fox]

using the mythic colour but i wanna use orange

[south kayak]

oh god that reminds me i should do the tw weekly

[clever belfry]

i did LFR for 3 weeks in a row

to get the blue one

xdd

[south kayak]

I got it on my first lfr

[radiant plank]

Bugged sword looks kinda cool tho..

[fading bane]

Is that the smolderon one?

[south kayak]

is tw weekly worth

[south kayak]

yes

[heavy dock]

its a normal piece of raid loot

from tw weekly so

[fading bane]

Tmog goes hard

[south kayak]

I used it for a while but it got stale

such is the usual with transmogs

are you even playing wow if you're not switching transmogs daily

[clever belfry]

theyre just

unreasonably large on human female model

[heavy dock]

use the anime magic girl transmog on a male zandalari war

[mossy fox]

i was lucko and got it from guild lfr iirc while we were farming it for smt

[fading bane]

You are clearly not a competitor in «no mog prog»

[mossy fox]

lfr colour is so good

[clever belfry]

some guy got mad at me for pressing need on it

(i did 40% of the raids damage and was tanking smolderon as arms)

i think i am in my right to take anything i want 👍

[fading bane]

Avg lfr experience

[tardy lark]

prog mog is downloading the randomizer addon and sending it

[heavy dock]

theres a randomizer addon? lol

[radiant plank]

Yeah

[clever belfry]

transmogroulette

[heavy dock]

pff

[fading bane]

Farming titles

[heavy dock]

i was wondering why everyone was posting vaults i deadass thought it was monday today

[south kayak]

i am at the point wherer switching transmogs cost a lot of gold

[clever belfry]

im just still malding about my vault

:+1

[heavy dock]

just make like 20 enchanting concentration alts and ull have more gold than you know what to do with

[clever belfry]

taking hole first vault is just awful

[radiant plank]

Anda you will have another vault to mald about tomorrow dont worry <3

[fading bane]

Vaults kinda suck this tier

[clever belfry]

nice ty

[fading bane]

Last tier you could get sikran neck and rashanan cloak

[clever belfry]

bro there is 40 2h weps in the m+ vault

maybe i just get one of those?

[fading bane]

And some trinkets from m+ were actually good

[radiant plank]

GOnna be horror trying to pug 2 mythic slots this tier before they absolutely slaughter stix/sprocket

[heavy dock]

t11 delves should award myth track gear on vault

[mossy fox]

only pacemaker is good in m+ vault this tier, very cool

[restive peak]

Today I get a second myth wep in vault bois surely

[radiant plank]

no

[fading bane]

Already got a wep tho 😈

[south kayak]

my main did not get a single myth trinket in s1, just mad unlucky

[clever belfry]

u are not pugging 4 mythic all tier

[heavy dock]

why not

[radiant plank]

???

[clever belfry]

unless they make balls not explode when u touch bombhsells.

[radiant plank]

T11 for myth gear

vs mythic raid

for myth gear

[fading bane]

Even then, its just as good as the rik reverb trinket. At least for me

[radiant plank]

XDDDDD

[mossy fox]

ya

[south kayak]

difference between stixx and rashanan is dramatic

[heavy dock]

so many good delve trinkets that are stuck in hero

[clever belfry]

Richard Resonanz

[radiant plank]

You could throw a blind toddler into a tier 11 delve and they could complete it

[heavy dock]

m10 vs mythic raid is just as xd

[fading bane]

Pickle Rick Reverberations

[south kayak]

that's a big overreaction

[radiant plank]

Less xd vs t11 delve

[mossy fox]

absolutely no shot pugs can expect to kill stix atm ye

[radiant plank]

noo

[south kayak]

R-r-r-rik

[heavy dock]

t11 arent that easy for the average player i can tell u

[restive peak]

Can confirm am blind toddler and have done 11

[chrome plover]

me too

[clever belfry]

bro my gm messaged every raider asking if we wanna raid today to kill it

[thin cliff]

you dramatically overestimate the general population

[radiant plank]

🤝

[clever belfry]

i just replied no :)

[mossy fox]

as a blind toddler, i can confirm

[fading bane]

You gotta kill Underpin 8 times for myth gear 🤝

[heavy dock]

ive done t11 at 636 but it took me 20min

[south kayak]

how easy is first boss on mythic

[radiant plank]

Very easy

[clever belfry]

trivial

[fading bane]

Very easy

[heavy dock]

pretty easy

[radiant plank]

Cauldron is easy if you have 2 players who know how to play football

Rik is okay-ish

[heavy dock]

cauldron has a lot of dmg tho

[clever belfry]

rik with a pug wont be easy anyway i think

[south kayak]

is that a mythic mechanic

[radiant plank]

Stix and sprocket monger are unkillable for anyone outside of HoF

[clever belfry]

just invite 6 healers

solved

[heavy dock]

lol

[restive peak]

BIS warriors all confirmed as blind toddlers, no wonder we're goated

[clever belfry]

i think post nerf stix is very killable for top500 guilds

the 4 extra seconds

[restive peak]

I'm so mad about the stix nerfs

[clever belfry]

and more hp nerf

[fading bane]

Recycle neef is big

[heavy dock]

mythic bosses will keep getting nerfed no

[radiant plank]

Maybe after like a 100

[south kayak]

how many times did they nerf stix so far lol

[clever belfry]

and more dmg nerf

[restive peak]

He was so fun to prog

[clever belfry]

is crazy

[radiant plank]

?

[south kayak]

there's something as too hard

[radiant plank]

Stix was not fun to prog

[clever belfry]

stix is godawful as melee

[south kayak]

nah stixx sounds horrible to prog

[clever belfry]

as range its bing chilling

[radiant plank]

10 melees Stix prog

[clever belfry]

(like this whole raid)

[restive peak]

I liked Stix idk lmao

[radiant plank]

as horror as it can get

[restive peak]

10 melee LMAO

[fading bane]

Yikes

[restive peak]

We had like 6

[fading bane]

Comp issue

[restive peak]

Thank god

And it was super easy cuz we also have an outlaw

[radiant plank]

Still killed it in 37 pulls

[restive peak]

Parry bug

Just sit near tank 5head

[tardy lark]

the real endgame

[south kayak]

we had like 10 melees, lead made some switch to range lol

[heavy dock]

why do bosses still have the parry thing

[south kayak]

because blizzard hates melee

[restive peak]

Blizz hates melee

[heavy dock]

esp bosses which you cant sit at the ass

[south kayak]

warrior, specifically

[radiant plank]

Comic book boss

[south kayak]

terminate spider queen 终止蜘蛛女王 admire impressive rear 欣赏令人印象深刻的屁股 run from toxins 远离毒素 enjoy the suck 享受吮吸 beans on toast 不尊重沃尔玛

[heavy dock]

xD

istg ansurek was so annoying with parries

[south kayak]

queen was so bad with parries

she was

you could parry attacking her rear

or im cooked

[heavy dock]

i remember if u got rampage parried u didnt get the empowered spells

[restive peak]

He got giga fucked post nerf by everyone last night, sadge

[heavy dock]

or smth

[restive peak]

Mind you sprocket is gonna be a BANGER

[fading bane]

Sproket is a great fight

[radiant plank]

Sprocket is such a banger

[clever belfry]

i just wanna finish the tier so i can log out

ill be honest

[radiant plank]

we got to 45% last night and holy hell

[clever belfry]

what a fucking clownshow

[radiant plank]

current state of that boss is

THIGHT

[fading bane]

so many ppl killed Stix yday that my parse turned orange

we are so back

[south kayak]

wow raiders are masochists

confused about 100 pull kills

[clever belfry]

idm spending 300 pulls on a boss

if its not just gimmick dogshit

👍

[radiant plank]

0parse Rank2

GG

[clever belfry]

arms loser

[south kayak]

thoughts on mythic sylvanas

[radiant plank]

Arms winner

[clever belfry]

i never did mythic sylv

[south kayak]

be glad

[clever belfry]

i quit before i was in a split that killed it 👍

[heavy dock]

actually where do ppl even find these

i know of a few

but there must be someone making them

[south kayak]

12+ minute fights per pull

was my first ce

[junior gale]

Just have a trickster rogue slave to make the parries go bye bye

[south kayak]

there are sub tricksters everywhere now

god blesss

[junior gale]

Yeah it's bis for sub now so it's pretty easy to get one

[heavy dock]

huh what does that do im not familiar with rogue stuff

does it make boss not be able to parry?

[junior gale]

They have a hero talent that makes rogue attacks not parry but it's been bugged this whole time and it affects the whole raid

One of those bugs we pray they never fix cuz parry is a trash mechanic that doesn't belong in retail anymore

[orchid dagger]

Every arms player after they gut Die by the Sword be like:

[junior gale]

Talking about raid boss parry ya dingus

[heavy dock]

ok but we mean enemies randomly parrying

[orchid dagger]

No, you said parry in general

[heavy dock]

well the context was ansurek parrying a lot

[orchid dagger]

And the correct answer to that is to bring back hit/expertise

[heavy dock]

no

never

[orchid dagger]

So we don't have random fucking parries/misses on shit

[clever belfry]

new cyberpunk perf unlocked

[tardy lark]

nah we just need resists back so casters get fucked as well

[junior gale]

Or just remove bosses being able to parry

[orchid dagger]

BASED

Fuck em

[heavy dock]

i swear if i have to sit in front of bosses sometimes im tweaking worse than if i wasnt allowed to hit the boss back in lost ark as a back attack class

cuz of those random ass parries

[junior gale]

Our rogue was sat for our vexie rekill and that mofo parried my CS twice

I indeed could not wipe the raid that pull

[heavy dock]

CS?

[junior gale]

Even tho I tried

[mossy fox]

speaking of, did people try that cvar that disables blizzard's addon cpu profiling

it made a hige diffy for me

[orchid dagger]

Colossus Smash, the only Arms button that does damage

[clever belfry]

its useful yea

[heavy dock]

oh yikes

that can be parried lol

[thick fossil]

Yes, added about 30 fps in open world. More in raid.

[junior gale]

Warbreaker the aoe version can be parried aswell

🙂

[heavy dock]

wait wait what?

someone tell me more about this

30 fps boost? wtf

thats a lot

[orchid dagger]

Everything can unless it says it can't (Overpower, Revenge)

[heavy dock]

warbreaker being parriable is kinda stupid lol

can thunderclap be parried? lol

[orchid dagger]

AoEs can't

[heavy dock]

well warbreaker is an aoe

[orchid dagger]

It has a hit component

[heavy dock]

and how do u know if a spell has a 'hit component'

[orchid dagger]

Physical or not

TClap is Nature

[heavy dock]

is it not physical?

i know thunderblast is stormstrike

can that be parried?

since its physical/nature

[orchid dagger]

Me hardswapping to Thunderfury for the proc to shit on a Hunter is Nature

[modern ingot]

Is that pinned somewhere?? 😯

[mossy fox]

145 fps on raid opener with lust feels wild

[clever belfry]

ok mr 9800x3d

[mossy fox]

https://x.com/luckyone961/status/1901392733790494908?t=8A4g_WuOm7rHdzS4JIe7kw

Luckyone (@Luckyone961) on X

Performance issues in raids (Part 2)

Blizzard has added AddOn CPU profiling into the game and it is enabled by default. However, it literally reduces your FPS by up to 20-25 (For more in-depth info, it eats around 3ms per frame in a raid size of 20-30 people).

To turn it off

X · Mar 16, 2025, 9:58 PM

[orchid dagger]

No, iirc it has a caveat

[tardy lark]

the glow

[heavy dock]

why so glowy

[clever belfry]

studio lights - engaged

[modern ingot]

Thanks legend !

[heavy dock]

shining

[heavy dock]

so its just inconsistent got it

[mossy fox]

9950x3d

[heavy dock]

damn

and here i want to swap to a 7800x3rd

[clever belfry]

ok but theyre the same perf in games

[mossy fox]

9800x3d is better for most people tbf

ya

[heavy dock]

how much better is 9800 than 7800

price - value wise

[orchid dagger]

It's mostly consistent, you just get oddballs every so often

[clever belfry]

depends on your local circumstances

[next ruin]

fps wise, any comparison on suf vs cell unit frames for personal, target and bosses frames ?

[clever belfry]

sometimes theyre similar price

[heavy dock]

im finally dropping intel cuz its getting annoying

[clever belfry]

sometimes the 7800x3d doesnt exist anymore cause they dont produce it anymore

[mossy fox]

a decent amount better from the few threads i saw discussing it in wow

[clever belfry]

some places the 9800x3d is barely being restocked either

[heavy dock]

isnt it thelatest one?

im not very familiar with amd cpus, ive been using intel since forever

[mossy fox]

usually you'll see bigger improvements in wow from x3d cpus than you see in benchmarks from other games

[heavy dock]

but i wanna make the swap to amd now cuz im just getting lag on most games that seem to be 'cpu intensive' lately

[clever belfry]

i know gamersnexus does ffxiv benchmarks, it kinda tracks with wow perf compared to other chips

[mossy fox]

ya he does

[clever belfry]

both games hit very similar bottlenecks so

[mossy fox]

factorio is a good benchmark too for cpus i find

[clever belfry]

im a big noober on my silly 5800x3d

[heavy dock]

like i stopped playing path of exile 2 cuz i was getting maps with 20fps it was ridiculous

even with a 4070 super

[mossy fox]

5800x3d still goodge

[clever belfry]

(i was getting bottlenecked on my 5080 on MHW 3440x1440)

[heavy dock]

but then it seems every game nowadays has cpu problems

[jolly oyster]

How comes with AM, I Recklessness before charge but don't have enough rage to rampage?

Like never

[split idol]

The difference in going from 5800x to 9800x3D was beyond wild. Literally doubled fps in WoW.

[heavy dock]

cuz u dont

a few auto attacks or a thunderclap/ raging blow should be enough

[clever belfry]

yeah unfortunately i cant justify spending on a new platform right now

it is what it is

kinda wanna get a new monitor first anyway

5120x1600 oled or smth like that would be nice

wait no 3840x1600 is the one im looking for yaya

[heavy dock]

i wonder whats the diff going from i9-12900k to 7800x3rd

[clever belfry]

large

[heavy dock]

what kinda fucked resolution is that

cinema screen

[jolly oyster]

Hmm, it's not how the opener gos on the guide.
Also when checking the top logs they seem to rampage straight after their charge

[heavy dock]

wtf 7800 and 9800 in my country are legit 50 euros apart... might as well et 9800 wtf

[clever belfry]

yes 👍

the 7800x3d is not being made anymore so theyre just clearing out stock

[heavy dock]

real

[orchid dagger]

You can't as AM

You do not have enough rage to

[heavy dock]

technically u have enough after 2-3 auto attacks

after charge

i think

[summer quail]

need to press avatar as well. otherwise you won't have enough rage

important to press reck first tho

[heavy dock]

does that give rage too

[summer quail]

yes

[clever belfry]

avatar gives 10 rage yes

[heavy dock]

hm

didnt know

[jolly oyster]

Thank you!

[heavy dock]

lately in dungeons i reck charge thunderclap then send all

to have rampage

guess with avatar i can just rampage

[orchid dagger]

not having Ava/Reck bound together

[heavy dock]

i have them

but i have a macro with reck charge

i have dragon roar bound too xd

on that everything macro

[mossy fox]

reck charge avatar + autoattack (which happens immediately when you reach target) = enough rage to rampage

[hoary swan]

Sometimes it only gives 79 rage

[clever belfry]

thane tech

thane tech

[heavy dock]

just clap before charge

7 rage

boom

:D

thane tech

[hoary swan]

Doesn't work in ST raid build

[heavy dock]

ik was memeing

[south kayak]

me when i get to 79 rage and wait a few seconds

[clever belfry]

thane tech involves spec swapping

it does work in raid

👍

its awful 👍

[heavy dock]

spec swapping?

doesnt that reset rage?

[south kayak]

You know something is not good when anda uses thumbs up emoji

[clever belfry]

👍 is tech

[heavy dock]

btw what motherboard yall reommending with 9800

[south kayak]

🤷

[heavy dock]

anda and crit were talking earlier, i got some intel there lol

[little surge]

what is a sufficient amount of crit to use bloodthirst?

[heavy dock]

intel as in 'informaiton' lol

[clever belfry]

i know fucking nothing about boards

[heavy dock]

same

[clever belfry]

i just know u want something with human VRMs for the 9800x3d

[summer quail]

#updates-midnight can grab the weakaura in there, no thinking

[heavy dock]

also am i hearing this right, the echoing clink clanks are from the 4 set?

[clever belfry]

yes

[little surge]

huge, tysm. completely new to warrior sorry for the question :)

[clever belfry]

u can turn those off

[heavy dock]

nah i like it they sound chill

[south kayak]

they're gambling machine sounds

I think

[heavy dock]

ambient rain noises

some fkin ethereal gambling machine

[summer quail]

any more questions just keep asking in here

[heavy dock]

those are like flipping coins in rain inside a cave or smth lol

[mossy fox]

idk i havent looked into latest mobos, i use my asus b650e-f which i got for my 7950x3d

[heavy dock]

i see

will look into it

[mossy fox]

the latest equivalent seems to be asus b850-f, just look up some reddit threads or something

[heavy dock]

this 850 seems quite expensive lol

[summer quail]

i have the asus b850 with my 9800. seems to work well

[mossy fox]

probably same as always, avoid wasting money on x870 mobos

[heavy dock]

idk i havent changed my board since 2021

[clever belfry]

buy something that has all the ports you want

is the general idea

[mossy fox]

ya

[clever belfry]

even lower mid tier boards are well fine

[mossy fox]

unless you KNOW you need a high tier board, just get the mid tier b850 stuff

[heavy dock]

im pretty bad at all these pc building stuff i usually have my friends help

i mean.. probably not

what would the need be for

also i have a friend who keeps trying to get me into water cooling

[summer quail]

mid tier b850 is what i have, tuff gaming or something

[pliant summit]

guys i tried mountain thane with Frenzy enrage and i hate it so im back with slayer

[heavy dock]

i love thane with frenzied

i honestly dislike am slayer, bs cooldown goes all over the place

[vale dove]

I got a question regarding our rotation if someone can help. Lets say we on a fight like Rik where we want to get Bladestorm off cd asap for adds does the 2 raging blow rampage go out the window and we want to use rampage as often as possible to get Mark stacks?

[pliant summit]

i still feels so slow like i wanna break my hand on the keyboard

[heavy dock]

even with frenzied how

[summer quail]

did you mean powerful enrage?

[clever belfry]

tbf even mid tier boards now are more expensive than the x570 board i bought wayback when the ryzen3000s came out

[coarse nest]

My WA pack makes bloodthirst glow when double down procs

Do you guys bump BT up in prio when a double down proc happens?

[heavy dock]

whats double down again

[coarse nest]

Part of the tier set iirc

[nimble sphinx]

Custom loop water cooling done right can be great but It can be hassle to maintain

[heavy dock]

ah that just gives crit rate no

[coarse nest]

Think it’s damage/crit idr off the top of my head I’m not logged in atm

It’ll get spent naturally at the next 4stacks of bloodcraze

But I’m not sure if I should send it sooner if that proc is up

[mossy fox]

ye mobos shot up in price with am5

am4 was nice and cheap

[heavy dock]

i jsut follow the crit weakaura

[coarse nest]

I’d like to eliminate as much glow on abilites as I can so if I don’t need a double down glow I’m deleting it lol

[heavy dock]

when it chachings i click

[dense elbow]

Btw, in m+, is it just the standard that BM and unholy is leagues ahead in DPS?
Just need a snapshot of what ppl have seen

[heavy dock]

yeah

[coarse nest]

Yes

[heavy dock]

bm is super broken rn

unholy as per usual, big mob density = big dmg

[dense elbow]

Aight, copium tank is refueled, time to go and be disapointed again

[heavy dock]

tbh im interested in trying prot with the funny 3m dps build

i just need a shield to drop lol

[coarse nest]

My M+ trio is udk/priest/war and the udk with pi gaps us by atleast 1m

[sterile dagger]

when we getting rework of our ww buff? we need uncap damage at least like 10% above 5 targets

[coarse nest]

They do wicked damage

[vale dove]

how many stacks of sudden death do you use execute on?

[heavy dock]

in some nice dreams

hopefully soon

;d

[tardy lark]

depends on juggernaut duration and sd duration

[vale dove]

ye UH is nice in M+ shame about raid though

[tardy lark]

execute is your highest priority if at 2 sd stacks, juggernaut is falling or sd is running out

[vale dove]

makes sense

ok ty

[tardy lark]

can just download the execuite conditions WA and not think about it until you hear kaching

[vale dove]

i have it

Was just unsure if I should be pressing it on kaching 🤣 but makes sense now

so does it make sense to press it with one 1 stack of sudden death if you want to get bladestorm off cd

[sterile dagger]

if adds spawn soon - i definetly doing that

[verbal shale]

In theatre of pain would do you think slayer could contend with mountain thsne

[summer quail]

no

[wheat lantern]

This affix gonna make warriors super fun this week with a extra 30% reduce to CDs/vers buff ?

[radiant plank]

Yeah fun to desync our avatar from trinkets by seconds

:xdd

[chrome plover]

yippieee

[wheat lantern]

Well I mean fury just sends anything , yolo

[merry zinc]

Are we still trying to apply WW every 4-5 GCD? Was looking at some of the top logs for Fury and WW isn’t even showing up at all for them.

[wheat lantern]

Zug zug

[summer quail]

are they running thane?

[chrome plover]

need more context

with meat cleaver, slayer, aoe, you want to keep whirlwind stacks up yeah

in thane you do this with thunderclap

[merry zinc]

@summer quail yes the ones I was specifically looking at was thane.

[wheat lantern]

[merry zinc]

An okay I didn’t realize thunderclap was applying it

[summer quail]

then that is why. they press thunderclap instead

[chrome plover]

yeah u replace ww with clap entirely

[wheat lantern]

Take WW off your bars as thane

[tardy lark]

or just macro clap/ww/slam into same button

[verbal shale]

Ah so you think fury has enough damage to push io to 3k in keys at this stage of season currently 2800 but finding myself having to play arms in keys like cinderbrew and prio which has better damage but hit and miss where as I find my damage at least a consistent damage in fury

[wheat lantern]

We still got like a 20-30 ilvl gap lmao , this season is cake

[chrome plover]

u can push to 3k on any spec in the game yeah

[summer quail]

you can definetely push 3k as fury

highest rated dps warrior in m+ is a fury one trick

[sterile dagger]

but he has premade group

thats different

i had 3268 s1, but that was pain as pug

[summer quail]

yes he does. but if the spec was garbage he would bring them down, he keeps up

pugging as dps is gonna be rough anyway

[wheat lantern]

If you don’t want to stress , just wait till last month of season when everyone is geared , it’ll be so easy for 3k, score is so inflated this season

[shadow maple]

is necesary track the tier set or just play like is nothing?

[summer quail]

just pretend it does not exist

[verbal shale]

I sort of want to stop playing arms and just play fury in keys but with pugs the time is just so tight sometimes yeah with my team of ele shaman and ret pally we can time but I'm significantly lower with all these big cleave specs feel like the let down just find myself smashing the prios

[sterile dagger]

and also, rarely u can play in pug with phys group

[wheat lantern]

What’s a decent combo yall look for when making your own key

[verbal shale]

Yeah sick though furys are smashing 3k

[wheat lantern]

Comp

[sterile dagger]

monk, feral, dh, sham heal

hunter

[wheat lantern]

Interesting

[sterile dagger]

but almost impossible to get

😦

[verbal shale]

Nice bro

[wheat lantern]

I been lovin Druid bears

[sterile dagger]

done couple of runs this season like that

very efficient

but imo very unlikely to get that comp 😦

[wheat lantern]

Anything is possible if you wait for eternity lol

[sterile dagger]

true

[verbal shale]

Hahaha

[sterile dagger]

but at some point, you understand that it becomes a waste of time

[verbal shale]

At least fury is pumping in raid

[wheat lantern]

Key invs have been more toxic lately

[sterile dagger]

sitting for hours to fish a 16 key

[wheat lantern]

Yup

[sterile dagger]

do couple tries

[rotund ginkgo]

ffs

[sterile dagger]

and then realise - that your time wasted, because you didnt even time those 16s 😢

[rotund ginkgo]

solo que is hell

[sterile dagger]

^

[vale dove]

if you wana push shit sucks defo

[rotund ginkgo]

only reason i managed this is cuz i got my wisdom tooth removed

[verbal shale]

Is this all in fury?

[rotund ginkgo]

so im off work for 3-4 days

yeah all fury

[verbal shale]

Very nice

[wheat lantern]

Brotha. Did you get any logs after lol. Record them. I want to see details to get a idea

[rotund ginkgo]

i suck

i really do suck

imo

id stream but i cba streaming at 2pm for 1 viewers

i also dont think im entertaining KEKW

[wheat lantern]

Who’s back hurts in that group lol

[verbal shale]

How's your overalls looking in 13s

[rotund ginkgo]

uh 3m

usually

[rotund ginkgo]

tbh theyre all pretty lenient

id say im 90% of the time 3rd in dps but 1st in bosses

[dense elbow]

in 12s I am around 2.8-3.2m
It is pretty grim

[verbal shale]

Haha yeah I feel bad sometimes atleast the boss DMG is good

[wheat lantern]

Ok , then I’m good to go, usually the same, third and first bosses

[rotund ginkgo]

yeah none of the pack timers seem good

for us

[verbal shale]

Still nice bro well played at begining of this season