#fury
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it is
Nice
hero track would be better but 658 is completely fine
It got nerfed but I think it's still good idk if it's bis anymore though. Some trinkets might've passed it now.
secondaries by 5% - it will still be very good
Sorry it's good but idk if it's bis anymore
this will last you probably the whole season
you would replace it with myth track raid items - or with the same on hero track
there are other trinkets at higher ilvl that will pass a champ track one
hero track yeah probably keeping that the whole season
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dizoZ4rcz5nSX8gtmLQ5m7 Haha man I simmed fury again with Hectic add cleave, and 4-set is indeed still not better than 2-piece + 2-piece
why sim HAC??
does someone have a record of the rik reverb fight in mythic ?
lol guess our tier is dog shit in aoe
I have simmed both Dungeon Slice and HAC, just to compare, and the 4-set is still not better lol
sad times 
Again, why? Why not sim normal patchwork or MT patchwerk?
Mainly care about M+ performance
HAC and dungeon slice seemed more appropriate for that
any specific dungeons that fury shines over arms this season?
where even is MT patchwerk?
Maybe dungeon slice but for warrior, regular patchwerk and swap out trinkets foir burst is as good, if not better. Or patchwerk 5t xxtime.
Patchwerk, 5 targets, turn off buffs other than battle shout. Set w/e time you want. 1 minute or less.
oh so patchwerk + 5 bosses?
since AM will eventually "desynch" avatar and reck, outside of holding for certain windows are we just full sending anything thats ready
Also dinar systme if you mythic raiding
Ok, is this what one should be using for trying to calculate for M+ performance?
Never really understood what kind of sim is best for that
you can't really sim M+
I think most peopel just set it to dungeon slice and call it a day
all you can do is a multi target sim and just work off that
You can. I guess you can do DS but it's about the same. Or as I said, just use your nbormal patchwerek raid sim and swap trinkets if needed for burst
I guess, just trying to find something that is somewhat accurate
you can do a lot less or a lot more dmg depending on the dungeon so while the sim might give you an idea it won't be a 1 to 1 as each route, tank and dungeon is different
In the ball park is as close as warriors get for M+ with the damage profile. Don't overthink it
For sure, just want to see if something is overwhelmingly a better choice
Fair enough
Thanks for the help
like i said i perfer HAC just for a general aoe base to work from
yeah i know but HAC still lets me know what works better for aoe
Start of priory is just a big pull up until the blacksmith, like constant combat
Not one big pull, but like chaining pull after pull
Priory is not like Horridon fight tho. Just sim 5t 30 seconds with all buffs but shout off imo.
I'm not useing HAC as a 1 for 1 on dungeons my guy I'm just using it to get an idea of what trinkets do better in aoe it's that simple lol
what does 5tar 30s help
yes the biggest number in 30 seconds pog
30 seconds is the entire dungeon
can we sim dungeon now in raidbots
I guess the best way to look at it is I use HAC for prolonged aoe while the other can be better used for burst
if this is just about trinkets or something youd prolly wanna see more uses to see the actual difference
i mean real prolonged aoe you can just do like patchwerk but for like 5 minutes
but like gear generally will just be the best when you do 1tar 5 min
you do the same things on aoe as st basically
the only maybe difference is trinkets
yeah it's really not very complicated
part of why most ppl just say sim single target to sim for m+
but yea idk if ur rly not sure about some aoe trinket vs an on use or something maybe can sim that tho i think mr lockencock trink like sims more than its supposed to do dmg or somethin
at least ppl said it sucks
when i tested it on the ptr it was doing insane dmg
I'm surprised it sims so low
my only guess is because of the haste on it and not strength
Archi references trinkets in his BIS guides. That's good enough for me. Or can always check raider.io and see what is being run at key level and dungeon.
weird
hit it on the cleave dummies and see if its somewhat respectable
i would if i had it
o
i tried it on the ptr
both in st and aoe
was insane in both
maybe it was tuned at some point and i missed it idk
3min 30s fight on reverb heroic
are we getting another catalyst charge next week?
yes
cheers
How is m+ feeling? Just getting back from vacation excited to start this season
thane is pumping for me in the 6-8 range, dunno what the gamerz are up to
how are yall tracking yall bloodcraze? just memory?
Do we use thunder clap for whirldwind stacks or do we sue whirldwind? Thund clap feels so clunky sometimes (for mountainthane
for the thane m+ builds?
you should be getting tblast procs for that but yea clap if you have to
part of most weakaura packages
Sometimes I don't get blast procs but I'm also probably playing terribly. Some dungens I just suck at dpsing in
I just have a small text on my WA that shows crit chance of BT
i hate some of those lol
just want some simple one 😦 but cant find one
i mean if you just need the whirlwind stacks to MT either will get you those, but you can just replace WW with thunderclap for that
There is very rare occurences where pressing Whirlwind as Than is technically correct
But it's such a minor and rare thing that most people just dont bother and simply sit on an empty GCD in that case
For all intents and purposes, TC replaces Whirlwind for Thane
If you have to WW to get meatcleaver stacks as thane fury you simply misplayed.
You never have to do that
it's physically impossible
sometimes you just don't have any other button to press and you should press Whirlwind technically
Just dont imo
i can actually feel that i have tier set on arms
on fury nada
nothing
0
i dont track it or care about it, such lazy and boring design
with good rng arms set is just crazy
with good rng, fury feels the exact same
so how do yall cope with the Rookery?
It feels like I am afk for like half othe dungeon waiting for casts to end
is fury still better than arms now ?
anyone know if the trick with switching the missive on a crafted weapon, equipping it, and then swapping back to give yourself discount on upgrading the second weapon is still working?
in raid and m+ i mean
been holding off on spending crests to upgrade a weapon to save but if its not working anymore then no point
I believe that was for rings. the first weapon discounts all 2h
No
oh does it? sick thanks for the info
Think that only works on rings using Circlet now, I think they fixed it for crafts
On Mugzee can you leap out of jail? And if not, if I started my charge to the boss right before the aoe went off, would I still count for the soak and also be outside of the jail?
I know at least leap is weird with where it considers your characters location before you land.
Idk if its the same with charge
gotcha, appreciate it
i dont think anyone will have tested charge interactions
im 90% sure you can't leap out since its just a hard vertical wall that has no los
why not test it lol
you won't need leap for much else in p1
Im gonna and then see if I take dam from soak
(having only done it on normal) I think the walls block targeting slightly before they spawn which is before the thing explodes.
idk why you need to game it so hard just play the fight normally
no need for shenanigans
Because I play videogames for fun is why xD
can someoene tell me why when i sent BT sometimes it doesnt use the Bloodcraze stacks i have?
i just take the smash and immediately charge which seems to take you through the walls
because it didnt crit
Actually unlucky
mmm kk
Okay sick. That solves that question. Ima try it
i actually charged to the boss but the position was weird, it took me through the wall into prison and had to walk round and out again lol
but that was bad timing and positioning of the boss
I'll science it and see what works
Dont use science, use belief and facebook posts
what do I do during bloodlust when I literally cannot spam my buttons fast enough 😭
like im spam clicking rampage and yet wowanalyzer still says im wasting rage
well wowanalyzer is a robot
I think my games fps is literally too low
what fps do you get
go on settings for raid and lower most things
my normal settings are already super low
yeah there is a reason they give you "raid and battleground" and "normal"
I have a 11600k and a 2060 with 32gb of ram which I was assuming was enough
ive got a pretty decent pc but i massively lower shit for raid
nah wow is very cpu dependent
I've already started going into addons and turning shit off for raid but it seems to not be enough lol
check your weak auras too, maybe you have some insane packs or something
ive got a 4090 and all it does is let me have ray tracing and nicer water.....maybe more view distance
its a 20+ year old game engine that they keep adding stuff too
and yeah, weak auras and details are my most cpu intensive addons
guys, i did one whole run of cleft, and got the wep AND the mount
I need to turn off details during combat tbh in general
one whole run can u believe it
yeah update rate for details too
also did one whole run of motherload and got the bracers
(normal track on both tho)
sounds like you have more problems....maybe stuff in background? Lots of zoomers these days have like 20 things running in the background for rgb, spotify, other crap.....idk
is wow even multithreaded
I have other shit in the background but it should be on different cores or threads at this point
only relatively recently
and not properly
it still prefers very strong single core perf, hence whyt he 9800x3d is so strong for wow
sadge
this is standing around in Dornogal lmao
what is that addon called that lets you have different addon profiles
I'm 348 with old tier and 345 weps, shaman is 352 with 2pc/2pc, am I doing something wildly wrong or is it more in the catagory of "blizzard has no warrior dev", was a 10 meadery with "average" pull count
Feel like I should be doing 3m at least
signet+mechanocore
2.8 feels super low lmao
Elemental shammys can do insane dps if the tank just pulls big enough, 2.8 isnt low for that dungeon as a warrior
Feels awful getting gapped like that
Plus ur playing with a trinket that desyncs with ur avatar if its priory signet
So thats not very bueno either
Yeah well, i did priory today. Marksman did 4.11m dps and i did about 3.5m dps
Is DSLICE a decent sim for us?
So we will be gapped
5 target 5m iirc
OH YEAH dude get ur shard back
Why on earth would u vendor it or delete
For signet
Smh smh
sims lied to me 110%
my head's dented idk
It did feel like my dps went down not up with signet lmao
I mean im no expert so i wont say 100% signet isnt better than shard at a certain ilvl
(because it prob did)
I just have it macroed to send on cds because i'm lazy
which shard would do better
But i feel like a trinket lining up with avatar is just gonna be solido more so than a trinket thats always gonna be 30 seconds off
like with an ava macro
Yea i'm getting multiple uses not used per key at that rate
i'm a fuckin moron
Just get house of cards from one armed bandit
Probably gonna be the best m+ trinket for high burst on packs
just get it 4head
But again, im no super sim god or math genius so could be wrong
Yes just get it
Smh
Still works
same thing tho
yea
Yea I should just pay a group to trade me one, I don't rly raid
I was lucky to get a 639 shard last season
Still use it for every single dungeon i run
this is an evil and fucked up creature
Get this creature in the bin
the cobrat or the catbra?
Cabracadabracat
ai cat
Bro spawned in
Ban this man NOW
Literally
search 5x30 in the discord gif finder
i recommend the workout
authority of the depths or authority of radiant power for wep enchant? i am 640 ilvl
for raid
depths
which boot, bracer, and cloak enchant should i pick
the other ones seem pretty obvious
defender's march/avoidance/winged grace
just take leech whenever u can
avoidance fell off
- half of the raid shit that should be reduced by avoidance isnt
Is this some random lore or true and real
spaghetti
smolderon aoe during rings wasnt reduced by avoidance iirc
wondering how much of m+ is affected by avoid
i think it was some enha shaman that found out
prob more but cba
Damn
Is there spreadsheet for how much warrior 4p contributes to dps?
Might be an angle to go leech then
I think like 100k for 4p but idk
It’s happening fellas :/ it looks like Arms is over taking fury by a long shot this tier
why do u think that
We have wayyyy too many fights that are amazing for fury
Gallywix
First boss
Stix bunk
One armed bandit
From current gameplay and I dunno I logged in today for +11 keys etc and felt super weak . Mind you I’ve parsed 98-99 throughout All of H raid
Idk i feel strong in keys
i heard ele got nerfed silently
Especially compared to other classes in keys I felt super weak then someone told me I should play Arms . Me was sad
Apparently reverted already
Plus isn’t our tier set only a 3% upgrade overall compared to arms which is 8% I heard
means nothing
when u are tuned around it anyway
and fury has better st
Oh our ST rn is amazing can’t deny that
Fury ST is solid af atm
i havent lost once
on st this tier
in m+
sure i lose on trash but thats how it goes
Hmm maybe I felt weak cause I havnt gotten much gear compared to the peeps I’ve been running with . I’m at 650 they are at 655+
M+ aoe is always gonna be better for classes like marksman, shadowpriest, ele shammy or specs like that
yeah that could be why
On bosses tho I’ve destroyed every fight as top dps
And I only have 2 piece no 4 piece
I played with a marksman at the same ilvl as you, (me 650, mm at 655)
no point in playing fury over arms
way more dam just in this theater
I ended up doing like 3.5-3.6 mil overall and he did 4.1 or so
Good , because I honestly cannot stand Arms I hate the whole gameplay of it
if I beat a meadery overall w theater
Fury falls off the more targets
yeah cause u cant hit them
I don’t get while Blizz capped fury but everything else is uncapped like honestly what’s the point of that
Ele sham for example GOES BOOOOFA
But if ur tank pulls small, ele sham is kinda meh
imagine being able to hit more than 5 targets
arms goes hard as fuck in cinderbrew
Fury is all round solid af
That I agree on I def believe we are in a very good place . Man they just need to uncap fury aoe just like other classes
hell no
Ok blizzard get rid of the target cap. Priory, cinderbrew, floodgate are all big pull dungeons. Getting clapped by uncapped aoe is infuriating. Just did a 12 priory and barely beat the blood dk cause all the pulls are massive
u tryna get us nerfed?
We are so insanely frontloaded we would destroy the dps meter
just set ww to 8 targets
Like remember the beginning of season 1?
and its fine
We got so many nerfs
Okay then set us to 8 targets not 5
Cuz we slaaaaaaaammed aoe dps
we're relatively frontloaded, not insanely frontloaded. We sure used to be, but its no longer the case
And with AM our front load isn’t as strong as S1 RA
The problem is blizzard doesnt want big pull dungeons yet all the dungeons require pulls of 8-10 mobs
Again remember season 1
AM has nothing to do with it
The whole game is big pulls
lol
We destroyed dps meters on bosses with aoe
Just do reduced dmg beyond 5
They had to nerf us to the ground because of OF and bladestorm
we lost burst because titans torment got changed making odyns fury useless and giving no odyns on avatar cast
(Not literally to the ground but yeah)
good
it has nothing to do with us playing AM over RA
i like thane in aoe and slayer on st
ive got nothing to complain about
It sucks doing cinderbrew and seeing a ret pally or shammy doing 13-15 mil on big pulls and im luckily to hit 6-7 mil
Bring back S3 DF lmao
go arms ?
yeah thats why u press N and go arms for that dungeon
I mean on cinderbrew if u do ur rotation correctly u can peak at about 10-12 million dps
But it drops fast
Atleast in my experience
^ that right there I hate how as fury our damage drops a lot faster then other classes
Oh yeah it drops super fast
In the bigger keys a fury warrior cant keep up with uncapped classes and we arent far enough ahead on st to justify the trade
I’ve pulled 9-10mill on cinder open etc on the first pull but I drop so fast compared to other classes
which classes are truly uncapped?
Its like im down being less aoe dmg but let me crush u in single target atleast
we have consistent 5 target cleave, the only "uncapped" button we have that hits hard is thunderblast, which we spam on our opener
It's like
ur complaining about a job
But heres the thing
that isnt out job
Next pack the tank pulls
our job is not to kill big aoe pulls
there was a thing on wowhead that had uncapped aoe spells, but its well out of date
We have cds again
And the others usually dont
And then we pull ahead and slam
And slam again next pack
And next, and next
Rets have cds every 30 seconds. Lol. So does Enhance
And those classes are slapping hard af
And at the very least we still keeo up decently
And i beat most classes in ST on boss
Yea was just going to say lol
But the truth at the same time is, other classes do HIGHER dps
And have more utility
I can't believe how unlucky I've been with delve bounty maps, I haven't gotten a single one from 9 bountiful delves
Ok beating someone but a few 100k doesnt make up for beingn beat my a few million on aoe
The math doesnt math lol
I rather keep up with the rest of the classes then settle for consistent
If i do 10 percent more on a boss but u do 50 percent more on aoe wtf type of trade is that l
you get a guaranteed one for 2000 undercoins
is there a sesason 2 affix weak aura out thats good anyone uses?
He’ll have u seen BM hunters rn ? Slapping for 12-15mill
really? from where
from the undercoin vendor
buy wave scrambler 2000
when using it in a delve
you get a mini boss
when he leaves at 50% or so hp
he drops a gold pile which u can loot
that pile contains a map guaranteed
wow thanks lol, Is it only usable once?
yes
but u can buy it each week
and map is limited to once per week
so there u go
Also a lot of classes slap every pull theres no reason why we shouldnt be reduced dmg beyond 5
because we need 2x 2handers, if we get one fully upgraded, does the 2nd just need valorstones, or do you need to use crests too? Im used to huntard so just have a bow
its buggy. If you go arms then log out then go fury then log our then go upgrader yes you can skip crests
hope that helps
Im planning to have my warrior for main raiding and progress and then playing some broken class in m+ so i can feel good doing billions of aoe
Not that i dont enjoy fury in m+, i mean i do a lot of dpd
Dps*
that would be arms
Just play destro and have the tank keep the pull in one spot and RoF them
massive help, thanks!
We'll see what class/spec i choose
But probably just something fun that is meta
As a nice lil alt
i cant believe I havent gotten a single 2hander that I can use, its really pissing me off
U stuck on s1 weps?
im casual, but pushing myself to run way more delves than i should and M+ and clear normal raid and raid finder
yeah
just play dungeons wdym
i dont have infinite time
Spam +6 dungeons
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/sargeras/Tsuunamii
im so mad at myself . I was absolutly slapping them fell off cause I got tired 🤦♂️
Fast as fuck to time
its hard to get into +3 with my gear
just play dungeons with 2h users, wdym
play with guildies
Well, i honestly recommend finding a guild then that fits ur schedule
i dont have a guild
?
my schedule is "when I feel like playing"
Why do so many casual players
sit in this discord
yapping
every night
at ungodly hours
just to then say
I work from home, i work weird hours
nah i dont have the time for a guild
so i can sit in discord all day
a guild doesnt require commitment
Well depends, if u wanna raid u have to commit
most decent ones do
If u wanna just casual social
some dont
🍿
And play when u have time
I remember when i first started, super bad at the game. Joined a social guild and just played whenever i felt like it
ive played the game for 20 years, i know how guilds work....ive done the hardcore raiding, take 2 weeks off work/school stuff for a new raid, and now im back casual again
Yeah well, u dont need to commit
really i just want a 2hander, im not looking for clearing aotc or whatever
my guy
a raid finder wep is an upgrade
in my guild
theres a guy
he wants no raids
he just comes online whenever
hangs out in voice
plays keys with us
then dips
Casual stuff
he wants no committed time slots or anything
And no commitment so on your terms
and it works
i bet u arent eu kronzo
I am
you sound american
you bozo
oh!
im german
?
to join ur guild....
lol
KEKW
i wouldnt either
you seem like you'd make me look bad in any way possible
no but in all seriousness
i can send u an invite
you cna hop on whenever
play keys
im in a guild, but its some levelling guild and noone speaks
etc
Then leave
And find a social guild
I remember when i guild hopped between like 5 guilds for a period
Until i landed in a cool guild i liked
And at that time i was super casual and just found cool people
thats not guild, thats a social trap preventing you from real interactions
...........
Ive travelled to the US and finland in the past to meet people from my past guilds
I dont need advice on guilds, im just venting about my shit luck
Guys, the insanity is growing inside of me, what was the highest overall damage you got in a dungeon?
you just said you didnt want me cos id make you look bad
and i will...im casual and suck
I'm doing something wrong as fuck and I can't get to the next level somehow
draenor
ign?
is your guild active and stuff though? and noob tolerant? else i may as well just keep pugging
yes
we have a committed raid
but its not a requirement to hang out
people run keys
from 3s to 11s
or 12s n shit
for gear for fun
obviously right now its dead night
but during the day you see plenty gamers
sent u a dm
3.6 mil or 3.7 mil, cant remember
Depends on the dungeon tho, the group, a lot of shit
I have an ilvl of 654, and the best I saw till now was 2.5M
The tank and how bro pulls
Yeah dude i do like 2.7 mil in some dungeons, in others i do 3.5 and higher
how can I have enough rage to rampage on pull ?
It REALLY depends
recklessness plus charge
reck>charge>avatar generates enough rage with your auto attack to rampage
Reck, avatar, charge, rampage, bladestorm and then yadda yadda
As long as avatar is after reck its fine
Ravager of Bladestorm for dungeon? Everybody says ravager but idk
is priory trinket massive in raid or no?
I hate Ravager so much
Ravager is gooooodddd
Cuz i can do my rotation
Instead of sitting in bladestorm
And crying from itchy fingers
Yeah but it feels so weak
no diff
I did 1.15B damage with rampage last dungeon, 150M with ravager
I am breaking my fingers with my rotation but still, I can't keep the damage up, stats are fine and my enrage should always be up
ravager is good not because it deals damage
but because it procs unhinged
bloodthirsts
that give you thunderblasts
the ravager damage itself is kinda whatever
I mean unless its changed, you should get more rage from the initial value that avatar gives when reck is up. Since reck increases rage generation
Unless u meant something else
no diff u have enough
actually i lied you do have to reck the avatar rage
i yield
Rik Reverb you lust on pull right?
usually yea but if its mythic then you can hold for when you think the add spawns are so garbo that u need lust to kill em
Which bosses in the raid do you not lust on pull. Im stuck raid leading a pug
1st boss, vexie, you lust when armor gets killed, one armed bandit you lust when at last phase but it doesnt rly matter u might as well just lust on pull if its normal difficulty. Mug'Zee you lust at the enrage at what? 40%? And Gallywix is usually bloodlusted when he procs his shield at 40% or whatever the percentage was
@subtle zenith ravager is pretty fun though imo every 2nd gcd is rampage in reck. Just smashing through rage
is normal best-in-slost better than a hero track weapon?
no
at least i dont thnk so
try simming it
find out
ask robot
I think there was a pretty big breakdown
On wowhead about the weap combos
But yeh just simm
signet of the priority good for warriors?
is good. not bis. but is good. sadly its a 2min cd.
im going to crash out
do it
Our ranged are always god awful
Every tier
Every spec
yea but specifically mages tend to suck
what about hunters
unbelievable
hunters are clueless, but they're not worse than mages
i stopped playing my mage in legion when M+ came out cos I got sick of casting, casting.....KNOCK UP affix....interrupted
for the league players of this discord - mages are quite literally the ADCs of WoW. They behave identically. I have yet to see a single exception.
started playing hunter....but just got bored
i was in the middle of a dungeon
Do they rage and roam mid/feed after u take 1 cs of them accidentally?
not talkin to u
thane or slayer for bandit?
so they're karens?
ya
slayer
i played league for like 10mins....I realised it is not for me
Support Poppy is the way
well its better than wow pvp but thats not saying much lol
I'd rather huff Jenkem than play ranked league
top Kled is the way
The only mobas ive enjoyed was the original dota mod on WC3 as it was so new and unlike anything else, and HotS
League was only good back in 2010
how much of a dps loss is having both bis weapon and capital punisher on heroic and not craft ascendance next week?
when it killed Cata
Sim question
wasnt there a sim somewhere about it
i find the cadence really satisisfying, as well as the sound
and in comparison lets use enhance
both ranked 7. yet his dps rankings is in the 30s! lol shit goes even higher
#UNCAP FURYYYYY
can someone here help me "improve my dps"
starting to think fury warrior might be ass
We do prio damage, as such is more worthwhile dps
We are fine, everything in fine.
Lukas, take logs to #1347646810457636974
in raid not ass, but in m+ compared to other classes it looks like ass
logs?
yeah we can
Stop making me consider arms
press n and change spec to arms
those things that come from trees
i rather catch herpes a 3rd time then play arms
i said the same thing but i actually like to do damage so here i am playing both
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame in me, fool me three times, i play arms warr
fury is one of the strongest specs in the raid
ur playiong bad bro
my build is the same build i got from this discord
there is legit no way
i use the same rotation and everything
how
In the world of gaming
that's some gaslighting ass bullshit
Fury ST is big, even I do good boss dam. You doing a bit of trolling or?
show logs or something
maybe that dude was just a nobhead?
one of the problems with people who dont know what they're doing is that they dont know that they dont know what they're doing
show ur logs. ur palying the class wrong lol
fury easily top 5 currently in raid
there are the weapons i use
u cant get help if ur trolling " fury is ass"
wtf
If you cant read logs and improve amd understand them, start there
your stats are ass
change weapons around
u wonder why u do no dps
hey guys maybe let the person who has the role for helping people actually help the person instead of chain flaming on cd
whoops
tell me you dont understand allstar ranking without telling me you dont understand allstar ranking:
ive been doing my best ngl
We are fury warriors, we type on short cds
i didnt flame him, i just said maybe the guy saying his dps was low was just a nohead
im not very good myself
yes im saying stop typing if you just want to flame instead of helping
you want your strongest wep in your MH
i swapped it alr
In case you dont know, and are not trolling. Logs refer to combat logs, a breakdown of everything done in a fight. Usually uploaded to the site WarcraftLogs.com
Go there, see if someone uploaded a log of your character and put it into #1347646810457636974
This way we can see what is going on and can actually help beyond guesswork
one sec
@young swan i just want to meme i no troll our brethurs
ill check rn
this is my build
thats pure single target, what boss were you on
riki reverb or whatever
You did better than 4% of the warriors
Oof
is what it means
also depends on gear
a 4 doesnt depend on gear
you can legit be the best player in the world but without gear you cannot do anything
this can not be any truer
and on that boss I have 81 and im using 3 619 items and a 626 wep
also i checked the video you posted above put your highest ilvl weapon in your main hand
holy fuck
makes a significant differance
well your gear for sure isnt so bad
can you post the log link ill look at it for a sec and give you a few things to focus on to improve dam
prob not, ur issue is likely fundamental misunderstanding of what buttons to press and when
Based on that alone, I will say this. Go into #dps-faq and read up on the basics. Especially rotation. Once you have read it, go to a training dummy and try to replicate what you read.
Do this a few times, try to notice what you are doing wrong. Don't get frustrated, it is a learning process
Repeat from step 1 till you are comfortable on what and how to do things
i read rotation and copied skills
if written guides arent your jam then madox has some guides up on youtube as well
i think ninommo has some quick video guides too
but the biggest thing is getting the ability priority down
so playing fury warrior isn't my issue? it's the buttons i'm pressing?
correct
Yep, lack of experience and gearing, probs
fury is cranking in raids....
i need help lol
Do what you been told, give it a week of work, and you will be lightyears ahead of where you are now
Im not very good, I justhave a WA package that shows what ability is buffed or available, and lights them up....then i press them in priority order and I do ok
can someone link a video or sum
looking at your log there is a significant amount of time you just anrnt pressing buttons
click any of the website links there
warriors preformance is very uptime dependant so always hitting buttons doing dam is very important
definitely an issue
well thats going to massively reduce your dps
and make mechanics sometimes impossible
idk how to assign other skills to certain keys
big ass
yep
gotta start somewhere
but clicking will 100% slow you down
how did you get into a heroic raid if you have only been playing for a month lol
i would highly reccomend taking time to read over the Fury wowhead guide
where did you get that gear from
i did well on the normal raid last night
@lapis scaffold just know one main thing, which I bet you made mistakes on - do not press whirlwind when you do not have improved whirlwind talented
just most people that have been playing for only a month and cant bind keys, wouldnt even know where to get items at your ilevel, or be able to do the content is all
i have a dedication to get good
idk wow is fun
even though moments like these are pain
if you are having fun i wouldnt care about logs so much or what people say
its a game, not a job
Best advice i can give you is to just take time reading https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/overview-pve-dps
From there i would set up your keybinds and learn to not click your abilities if you want to improve.
getting good logs is fun for some
(like me)
Just spend some time in-game Lukas. Try to get used to pressing keyboard buttons.
It takes some time, but is worthwhile.
Go to the training dummy and just start learning by doing.
Start with just pressing buttons, look at them on screen and press the key. Repeat till it becomes natural.
Last step is to remove the keybinds from your screen. But you are far from there
(I like parsing)
yes, everyone is different
Theres nothing wrong with just starting out and wanting to improve. it will just take time.
i really need a video
all this information is so much to digest
plus it's confusing because i use the same build on that guide
#dps-faq takes me to more written guides
It is what you press, not what options you have. Keep that in mind
yo Lukas you need an experienced lad to give you a hand more than you need a video guide i believe
also right now you are probably bare minimum 10% behind anyone with similar item level without tier
Yo can anyone else check their Cyrclet gem buff uptimes? Just killed Rik with literally zero buffs from any of the gems... In fact, I only see 4 of our raid members that received any of the buffs for the entire fight.
Somethin seems scuffed
prob
i've made videos but my content is not directed at fresh brand new players so i don't think what i've made will help you
i am yes
based
im mixed
bet
What are the buff names so I can ctrl+f in our logs?
3:51 kill rick NM windsinger uptime
lol
We might be shadowbanned - Windsinger uptime... I'm not listed for any of the gems lol
I had 2 procs on the one I sent so
No clue how the ring works I just put in shit and press buttons hard :D
Someone enlarge my brain. Radiant MH/Depths OH is simming higher on M+ and ST, albiet double radiant sims much better in M+ but not ST, the hell is with depths am I missing? 35k damage three times vs 243k smite and 2230 mainstat buff?
Why do we run double depths Pepehands
Missing 4460 mainstat on proc for what like 135k dmg whenever? (Edit: 135k x2)
Is it the proc rate possibly?
Because for most people in most cases it's better, if you're simming radiant and it's better then use that
I cant get depths to sim better for me at all....maybe its better at high gear levels?
I was just curious because from a pure read why wouldnt we want the chance for the stat proc vs measly damage, I was just seeing if there was something I was overlooking. I’m glad i found it out. And maybe, i’m only 650 rn
yeah idk, i cant make the robot tell me depths is better 🤷
Praise robot
im only 640 equipped lol
im 646 in bags, but it sims worse
ive got every trinket under the sun, but i cant get a 2nd 2h wep
or tier
I got lucky with champ eye, house of cards and BIS, rocking a mix of champ/hero 4pc tier rn
Double radiant sims 0.4% better for me in dungeon slice, but even radiant+depths sims 0.8% lower on patchwerk. So you lose a little going depths for dungs/aoe, vs losing more on ST going radiant. At least for my case. Might change with gear but I've been rocking depths since the very start of xpac
Crazy how finicky the enchants are, really are just very dependant
Cool though, glad i found a way to get some more m+ damage
i think purely from the fact fury needs 2x 2handers, it should always do the highest dps in the game, ilevel vs ilevel
i didnt realise what a pain in the ass this would be
my rogue? 2x 1handers....hunter? 1x bow.....pala? 1x 2hander
this is just pain
Gearing fury is the epitome of hard work vs reward, but the downside now is the reward is kinda meh, just fighting your own ego
But for diehard warriors, its all we know
i mean in classic warrior was dogshit but scaled better than any class with gear
dogshit to level i mean....kill one mob, eat
etc
this reminds me of that trying to get another 2hander....i dont even care about stats at this point
First time main'ing war. First time posting in this discord. Just wanted to ask if the 675 crafted 2h-sword is better than the 675 crafted 2h-axe, even if the 2h axe is simming higher?
Asking this based on WoWHead listing 2h-sword as BiS crafted
It makes no difference
Okay
Pretty sure at least don't quote me on that
I thought so too but didnt wanna feed any false info, so agree ^
Wowhead agrees with me so I will call myself correct
weapon type is just flavor
Okay lol. Ty.
Swords just look the best, and im an orc
axe looks cheeks
An orc not running axes??
sword also cheeks i think
Axes upside down on back, gross
Bro i LOVE the one hander sheathe look
Gimmie that shit but with 2h
I got my mf waist STRAPPED
Not being able to mog 1handers with 2h fury is so shit
I’ll never forget you Crul’Shorukh
I dont care if it looks like a dildo...just give me another 2hander at a decent ilevel 
bad word mentioend
hmm?
Fun police detected
I'm seeing about as many fury in the top 100 as arms for m+. Can anyone comment on the relative merits of arms vs fury right now for a mere mortal pushing like 12-13s?
Fury good prio damage big 5 target cleave and one of the best boss killers in m+ (good in theater of pain). Really bad with high target counts (e.g. cinderbrew meadery).
Arms good AoE, big demolish aoe burst. Solid boss damage but not close to fury in that regard. Arms is more well-rounded in it's damage profile while fury is more specialized at 5 or less targets.
both specs have damage on pretty much every single pack
Fury is tankier
Interesting. Kinda sounds to me like fury is the better choice overall for pugging (prior damage more important than padding and tankier). I also like fury better so yeah. Is arms like stupidly fun or anything? I haven't played it since Legion. I'll give it a shot myself, just curious how other fury fans feel about it.
arms is fun to do 10 mil burst damage on huge pulls
i used to be an arms hater and i have a blast playing colossus arms. You set up all your big cooldowns to then hit that gigantic demolish button which jumps your dps from 2mil to anything north of 3mil depending on enemy count
i like this incarnation of arms better than the last ones, chasing that legion tomb arms fix
and we're doing similar numbers now to legion
Coo, sounds like I need to give it a whirl then
Been trying to play DK and...I hate it
also its not padding in 12s and 13s if you're killing targets that need to die. Take the commonly played 1st pull in priory. Fury is really bad at that compared to arms. Everything needs to die so it's not really padding there, is it?
It's not that, it's that other players tend to not prio damage well in pugs, and the most popular DPS spec by a country mile (ret) is very paddy.
yes
So I personally feel that good prio damage profiles have extra value in pugs
we hate rets
fury in keys good, big prio and boss damage
yes
and in pugs there arent really giga pulls (which fury sucks at) so fury value goes up
Yeah I'll check out arms, but unless I love it I'll probly switch to fury. Always been a fan.
owned
Skill issue I fear
goated clip (aside from the sound quality being ass)
skill issue
Bing Bang Bong
finally started playing my warrior today is eye of kezan still good after nerfs?
sims best for me and I have pretty much every trinket at 645
so id say yeah
oh don't worry I'm not being serious, never answer me seriously unless I give the
face
oh ok....was just trying to be helpful
I'm just showing that my woyer that has 2 hours on season has the trinket from that silly tw quest
AotC out of the way. 1st mythic down as well.
Fucking sad, I had to be 3rd tank. >.<
Onwards to HoF you go 
im free 
keep being helpful ❤️ . Just future info that I'm: A. insane B. never can be taken too seriously C. will troll when I can D. usually have a buttplug in and itching to press rampage every global 
how many runs
around 30, gave up on spamming 10s, just 7s and then ill just upgrade
I am afraid of you
im sitting here wondering how u playing with 25 fps. kick elvui ouuuttt
The Reck/Avatar and Charge for rampage opener is inconsistent for me, how do you always get enough rage for rampage?
ravager helps
If you pull boss it resets your rage bar
oh I see
https://gyazo.com/945a9137be9c9362efef646f052526a8 which one should i pick?
probably bis
is there any benefit whatsoever to doing tier 9 delves as opposed to 8?
no power benefits, t8 gives max vault and max gear for delves
best in slots I think is better
thanks man
I'll try to climb just for fun I think
do the 3 bountiful delves to get the gilded crest 7 each delve, and if you have the delve map use in one of them to get 10 gilded crest plus
thx will pick that one then
Why 3 and not 4
you play retail too?
Only 3 delves per week give gilded crests.
Sure do, but I just swapped Warrior this season and hit 80 few nights ago, 640 ilvl already
Ah didn't know, thanks
And it’s on the higher ones. 11 for sure. Not sure about 9 or 10
Ya idk, kind of chillin, haven't pushed past 8, grabbing ilvl where I can for now
636 here. ahving al ot of fun.
@remote bobcat showed me a lot last night, boosted me a little bit and helped me out. very friendly and helpful discord.
I played fury war s1-3 of DF, quit for S4, played arcane mage last season but quit early
hi thats me what hi
wouldnt call it boosting, i showed you the ropes
I didnt have to use the rope!
I just tanked a chill motherlode 9 key trying to get the ring and i had a warlock whisper me not to move the mobs out of his rain of fire. Meanwhile that same warlock when i didnt move packs at all:
he ass pulled all the peacekepers too
some people are weirdge
surely I'll get the ring for fury spec next time i hit that dungeon
a friend told me
I can delete the cyrce's circlet
and restore it
and it will let me upgrade my other ring for cheap
Works
I am gonna try that lol
before u do it
take out the gems?
equip it in both ring slots
take out the gems
and then log out
log back in
delete it
get new ring from NPC
equip in both slots
log out
log back in
(to avoid bugs)
the npc to get it is on the isle right?
yessir
if you lose it
the island i showed u
