#fury

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calm obsidian
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Got this one it's bis for Fury i assume?

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from delves

rugged arch
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it is

calm obsidian
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Nice

rugged arch
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hero track would be better but 658 is completely fine

crude ridge
rugged arch
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secondaries by 5% - it will still be very good

crude ridge
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Sorry it's good but idk if it's bis anymore

rugged arch
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this will last you probably the whole season

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you would replace it with myth track raid items - or with the same on hero track

crude ridge
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there are other trinkets at higher ilvl that will pass a champ track one

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hero track yeah probably keeping that the whole season

vernal laurel
past pivot
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why sim HAC??

fair thistle
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does someone have a record of the rik reverb fight in mythic ?

crude ridge
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lol guess our tier is dog shit in aoe

vernal laurel
vernal laurel
past pivot
vernal laurel
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HAC and dungeon slice seemed more appropriate for that

sharp wind
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any specific dungeons that fury shines over arms this season?

crude ridge
past pivot
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Maybe dungeon slice but for warrior, regular patchwerk and swap out trinkets foir burst is as good, if not better. Or patchwerk 5t xxtime.

past pivot
crude ridge
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oh so patchwerk + 5 bosses?

orchid iron
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since AM will eventually "desynch" avatar and reck, outside of holding for certain windows are we just full sending anything thats ready

tidal kindle
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Also dinar systme if you mythic raiding

vernal laurel
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Never really understood what kind of sim is best for that

crude ridge
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you can't really sim M+

orchid iron
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I think most peopel just set it to dungeon slice and call it a day

crude ridge
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all you can do is a multi target sim and just work off that

past pivot
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You can. I guess you can do DS but it's about the same. Or as I said, just use your nbormal patchwerek raid sim and swap trinkets if needed for burst

vernal laurel
crude ridge
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you can do a lot less or a lot more dmg depending on the dungeon so while the sim might give you an idea it won't be a 1 to 1 as each route, tank and dungeon is different

past pivot
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In the ball park is as close as warriors get for M+ with the damage profile. Don't overthink it

vernal laurel
vernal laurel
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Thanks for the help

crude ridge
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like i said i perfer HAC just for a general aoe base to work from

past pivot
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No dungeon is an HAC fight tho.

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That I can think of. This season or others.

crude ridge
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yeah i know but HAC still lets me know what works better for aoe

vernal laurel
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Not one big pull, but like chaining pull after pull

past pivot
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Priory is not like Horridon fight tho. Just sim 5t 30 seconds with all buffs but shout off imo.

crude ridge
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I'm not useing HAC as a 1 for 1 on dungeons my guy I'm just using it to get an idea of what trinkets do better in aoe it's that simple lol

sullen dove
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what does 5tar 30s help

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yes the biggest number in 30 seconds pog

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30 seconds is the entire dungeon

kind bolt
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can we sim dungeon now in raidbots

crude ridge
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I guess the best way to look at it is I use HAC for prolonged aoe while the other can be better used for burst

sullen dove
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if this is just about trinkets or something youd prolly wanna see more uses to see the actual difference

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i mean real prolonged aoe you can just do like patchwerk but for like 5 minutes

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but like gear generally will just be the best when you do 1tar 5 min

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you do the same things on aoe as st basically

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the only maybe difference is trinkets

crude ridge
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yeah it's really not very complicated

sullen dove
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part of why most ppl just say sim single target to sim for m+

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but yea idk if ur rly not sure about some aoe trinket vs an on use or something maybe can sim that tho i think mr lockencock trink like sims more than its supposed to do dmg or somethin

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at least ppl said it sucks

crude ridge
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when i tested it on the ptr it was doing insane dmg

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I'm surprised it sims so low

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my only guess is because of the haste on it and not strength

sullen dove
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i think it sims high and performs low

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is what ppl are saying

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idk

past pivot
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Archi references trinkets in his BIS guides. That's good enough for me. Or can always check raider.io and see what is being run at key level and dungeon.

crude ridge
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weird

sullen dove
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hit it on the cleave dummies and see if its somewhat respectable

crude ridge
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i would if i had it

sullen dove
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o

crude ridge
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i tried it on the ptr

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both in st and aoe

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was insane in both

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maybe it was tuned at some point and i missed it idk

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3min 30s fight on reverb heroic

hollow bramble
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are we getting another catalyst charge next week?

sullen dove
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yes

hollow bramble
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cheers

hot wadi
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How is m+ feeling? Just getting back from vacation excited to start this season

orchid iron
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thane is pumping for me in the 6-8 range, dunno what the gamerz are up to

finite spruce
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the dungeons are fun this tier

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youll have fun

feral ivy
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how are yall tracking yall bloodcraze? just memory?

calm mantle
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Do we use thunder clap for whirldwind stacks or do we sue whirldwind? Thund clap feels so clunky sometimes (for mountainthane

orchid iron
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for the thane m+ builds?

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you should be getting tblast procs for that but yea clap if you have to

summer quail
calm mantle
gleaming siren
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I just have a small text on my WA that shows crit chance of BT

feral ivy
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just want some simple one 😦 but cant find one

orchid iron
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i mean if you just need the whirlwind stacks to MT either will get you those, but you can just replace WW with thunderclap for that

gleaming siren
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There is very rare occurences where pressing Whirlwind as Than is technically correct

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But it's such a minor and rare thing that most people just dont bother and simply sit on an empty GCD in that case

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For all intents and purposes, TC replaces Whirlwind for Thane

serene moat
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If you have to WW to get meatcleaver stacks as thane fury you simply misplayed.

gleaming siren
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You never have to do that

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it's physically impossible

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sometimes you just don't have any other button to press and you should press Whirlwind technically

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Just dont imo

jade cipher
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i can actually feel that i have tier set on arms

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on fury nada

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nothing

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0

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i dont track it or care about it, such lazy and boring design

compact knot
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with good rng, fury feels the exact same

fallen sedge
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so how do yall cope with the Rookery?

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It feels like I am afk for like half othe dungeon waiting for casts to end

still laurel
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is fury still better than arms now ?

blissful hearth
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anyone know if the trick with switching the missive on a crafted weapon, equipping it, and then swapping back to give yourself discount on upgrading the second weapon is still working?

still laurel
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in raid and m+ i mean

blissful hearth
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been holding off on spending crests to upgrade a weapon to save but if its not working anymore then no point

silk wharf
barren hinge
blissful hearth
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oh does it? sick thanks for the info

mental rune
gentle meadow
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On Mugzee can you leap out of jail? And if not, if I started my charge to the boss right before the aoe went off, would I still count for the soak and also be outside of the jail?

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I know at least leap is weird with where it considers your characters location before you land.

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Idk if its the same with charge

warm crag
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i dont think anyone will have tested charge interactions

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im 90% sure you can't leap out since its just a hard vertical wall that has no los

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why not test it lol

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you won't need leap for much else in p1

gentle meadow
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Im gonna and then see if I take dam from soak

silk wharf
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(having only done it on normal) I think the walls block targeting slightly before they spawn which is before the thing explodes.

warm crag
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idk why you need to game it so hard just play the fight normally

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no need for shenanigans

gentle meadow
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Because I play videogames for fun is why xD

feral ivy
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can someoene tell me why when i sent BT sometimes it doesnt use the Bloodcraze stacks i have?

forest owl
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i just take the smash and immediately charge which seems to take you through the walls

silk wharf
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Actually unlucky

feral ivy
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mmm kk

gentle meadow
forest owl
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but that was bad timing and positioning of the boss

gentle meadow
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I'll science it and see what works

earnest canyon
bright sable
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what do I do during bloodlust when I literally cannot spam my buttons fast enough 😭

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like im spam clicking rampage and yet wowanalyzer still says im wasting rage

earnest canyon
bright sable
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I think my games fps is literally too low

earnest canyon
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what fps do you get

bright sable
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depends

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normally like 60-80

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during rough parts of LOU I can go down to 20

earnest canyon
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thats fine

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thats not fine

fickle cedar
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go on settings for raid and lower most things

bright sable
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my normal settings are already super low

earnest canyon
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yeah there is a reason they give you "raid and battleground" and "normal"

bright sable
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I have a 11600k and a 2060 with 32gb of ram which I was assuming was enough

earnest canyon
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ive got a pretty decent pc but i massively lower shit for raid

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nah wow is very cpu dependent

bright sable
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I've already started going into addons and turning shit off for raid but it seems to not be enough lol

fickle cedar
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check your weak auras too, maybe you have some insane packs or something

earnest canyon
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ive got a 4090 and all it does is let me have ray tracing and nicer water.....maybe more view distance

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its a 20+ year old game engine that they keep adding stuff too

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and yeah, weak auras and details are my most cpu intensive addons

quiet breach
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guys, i did one whole run of cleft, and got the wep AND the mount

bright sable
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I need to turn off details during combat tbh in general

quiet breach
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one whole run can u believe it

fickle cedar
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yeah update rate for details too

quiet breach
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also did one whole run of motherload and got the bracers

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(normal track on both tho)

earnest canyon
bright sable
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is wow even multithreaded

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I have other shit in the background but it should be on different cores or threads at this point

earnest canyon
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and not properly

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it still prefers very strong single core perf, hence whyt he 9800x3d is so strong for wow

bright sable
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sadge

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this is standing around in Dornogal lmao

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what is that addon called that lets you have different addon profiles

indigo arch
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I'm 348 with old tier and 345 weps, shaman is 352 with 2pc/2pc, am I doing something wildly wrong or is it more in the catagory of "blizzard has no warrior dev", was a 10 meadery with "average" pull count

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Feel like I should be doing 3m at least

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signet+mechanocore

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2.8 feels super low lmao

forest ginkgo
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Elemental shammys can do insane dps if the tank just pulls big enough, 2.8 isnt low for that dungeon as a warrior

indigo arch
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Feels awful getting gapped like that

forest ginkgo
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Plus ur playing with a trinket that desyncs with ur avatar if its priory signet

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So thats not very bueno either

indigo arch
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Come to think, yea I better item restore my shard

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2m signet

forest ginkgo
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Yeah well, i did priory today. Marksman did 4.11m dps and i did about 3.5m dps

floral belfry
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Is DSLICE a decent sim for us?

forest ginkgo
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So we will be gapped

indigo arch
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5 target 5m iirc

forest ginkgo
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OH YEAH dude get ur shard back

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Why on earth would u vendor it or delete

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For signet

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Smh smh

indigo arch
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sims lied to me 110%

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my head's dented idk

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It did feel like my dps went down not up with signet lmao

forest ginkgo
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I mean im no expert so i wont say 100% signet isnt better than shard at a certain ilvl

indigo arch
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(because it prob did)

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I just have it macroed to send on cds because i'm lazy

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which shard would do better

forest ginkgo
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But i feel like a trinket lining up with avatar is just gonna be solido more so than a trinket thats always gonna be 30 seconds off

indigo arch
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like with an ava macro

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Yea i'm getting multiple uses not used per key at that rate

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i'm a fuckin moron

forest ginkgo
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Just get house of cards from one armed bandit

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Probably gonna be the best m+ trinket for high burst on packs

warm crag
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just get it 4head

forest ginkgo
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But again, im no super sim god or math genius so could be wrong

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Yes just get it

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Smh

indigo arch
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mark of khardros*

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forgot it was that and not shard

forest ginkgo
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Still works

indigo arch
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same thing tho

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yea

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Yea I should just pay a group to trade me one, I don't rly raid

forest ginkgo
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I was lucky to get a 639 shard last season

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Still use it for every single dungeon i run

warm crag
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this is an evil and fucked up creature

forest ginkgo
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Get this creature in the bin

bitter palm
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chill like that

heavy dock
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the cobrat or the catbra?

forest ginkgo
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Cabracadabracat

warm crag
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ai cat

forest ginkgo
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Bro spawned in

forest ginkgo
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Ban this man NOW

bitter palm
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I CANT

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when was the last time anyone talked about wow in fury chat

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lets be real

forest ginkgo
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Literally

warm crag
forest ginkgo
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Minutes agl

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Ago*

bitter palm
forest ginkgo
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Bro i just sneezed so loud i woke the neighbor

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Dragonroared his ass

quiet breach
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authority of the depths or authority of radiant power for wep enchant? i am 640 ilvl

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for raid

bitter palm
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depths

quiet breach
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the other ones seem pretty obvious

indigo arch
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defender's march/avoidance/winged grace

bitter palm
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just take leech whenever u can

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avoidance fell off

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  • half of the raid shit that should be reduced by avoidance isnt
forest ginkgo
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Is this some random lore or true and real

bitter palm
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spaghetti

forest ginkgo
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Hmmmm

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I mean if thats true then fml

bitter palm
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smolderon aoe during rings wasnt reduced by avoidance iirc

indigo arch
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wondering how much of m+ is affected by avoid

bitter palm
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i think it was some enha shaman that found out

bitter palm
forest ginkgo
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Damn

bitter palm
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avoidance got nerfed hard anyway

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i just run leech everywhere

regal falcon
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Is there spreadsheet for how much warrior 4p contributes to dps?

forest ginkgo
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Might be an angle to go leech then

forest ginkgo
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I think like 100k for 4p but idk

celest sierra
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It’s happening fellas :/ it looks like Arms is over taking fury by a long shot this tier

bitter palm
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why do u think that

forest ginkgo
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We have wayyyy too many fights that are amazing for fury

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Gallywix

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First boss

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Stix bunk

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One armed bandit

celest sierra
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From current gameplay and I dunno I logged in today for +11 keys etc and felt super weak . Mind you I’ve parsed 98-99 throughout All of H raid

forest ginkgo
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Idk i feel strong in keys

bitter palm
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i heard ele got nerfed silently

celest sierra
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Especially compared to other classes in keys I felt super weak then someone told me I should play Arms . Me was sad

summer quail
celest sierra
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Plus isn’t our tier set only a 3% upgrade overall compared to arms which is 8% I heard

forest ginkgo
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Ele got nerfed on accident

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By like 17% i think

bitter palm
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when u are tuned around it anyway

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and fury has better st

celest sierra
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Oh our ST rn is amazing can’t deny that

forest ginkgo
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Fury ST is solid af atm

bitter palm
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i havent lost once

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on st this tier

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in m+

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sure i lose on trash but thats how it goes

celest sierra
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Hmm maybe I felt weak cause I havnt gotten much gear compared to the peeps I’ve been running with . I’m at 650 they are at 655+

forest ginkgo
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M+ aoe is always gonna be better for classes like marksman, shadowpriest, ele shammy or specs like that

bitter palm
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yeah that could be why

celest sierra
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On bosses tho I’ve destroyed every fight as top dps

bitter palm
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the only dungeon where i feel

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fury isnt real is cinderbrew

celest sierra
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And I only have 2 piece no 4 piece

bitter palm
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every single pull is like

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20 mobs

forest ginkgo
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I played with a marksman at the same ilvl as you, (me 650, mm at 655)

bitter palm
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no point in playing fury over arms

indigo arch
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way more dam just in this theater

forest ginkgo
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I ended up doing like 3.5-3.6 mil overall and he did 4.1 or so

indigo arch
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yea my issue was trinket swap

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99% chance

celest sierra
indigo arch
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if I beat a meadery overall w theater

bitter palm
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same pullsize for you

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not like u can hit more than 5 targets anyway xddd

forest ginkgo
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Fury falls off the more targets

bitter palm
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yeah cause u cant hit them

celest sierra
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I don’t get while Blizz capped fury but everything else is uncapped like honestly what’s the point of that

forest ginkgo
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Ele sham for example GOES BOOOOFA

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But if ur tank pulls small, ele sham is kinda meh

remote bobcat
bitter palm
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arms goes hard as fuck in cinderbrew

forest ginkgo
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Fury is all round solid af

remote bobcat
forest ginkgo
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Fury dream is not joever

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Do not fear

celest sierra
forest ginkgo
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Nope

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We would destroy dps then

thick elbow
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Ok blizzard get rid of the target cap. Priory, cinderbrew, floodgate are all big pull dungeons. Getting clapped by uncapped aoe is infuriating. Just did a 12 priory and barely beat the blood dk cause all the pulls are massive

remote bobcat
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u tryna get us nerfed?

forest ginkgo
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We are so insanely frontloaded we would destroy the dps meter

bitter palm
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just set ww to 8 targets

forest ginkgo
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Like remember the beginning of season 1?

bitter palm
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and its fine

forest ginkgo
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We got so many nerfs

celest sierra
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Okay then set us to 8 targets not 5

forest ginkgo
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Cuz we slaaaaaaaammed aoe dps

remote bobcat
celest sierra
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And with AM our front load isn’t as strong as S1 RA

forest ginkgo
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That is true

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But if we were uncapped we would go insane on the dps meter

thick elbow
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The problem is blizzard doesnt want big pull dungeons yet all the dungeons require pulls of 8-10 mobs

forest ginkgo
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Again remember season 1

remote bobcat
celest sierra
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The whole game is big pulls

remote bobcat
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lol

forest ginkgo
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We destroyed dps meters on bosses with aoe

thick elbow
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Just do reduced dmg beyond 5

forest ginkgo
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They had to nerf us to the ground because of OF and bladestorm

remote bobcat
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we lost burst because titans torment got changed making odyns fury useless and giving no odyns on avatar cast

forest ginkgo
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(Not literally to the ground but yeah)

bitter palm
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good

remote bobcat
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it has nothing to do with us playing AM over RA

bitter palm
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fuck that iteration

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ra cringer

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do all damage in 2 globals

forest ginkgo
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RA feels bad

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Am is gooooood

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I love AM

bitter palm
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i like thane in aoe and slayer on st

forest ginkgo
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Do you guys remember rasha nan before the nerfs?

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It was insane

bitter palm
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ive got nothing to complain about

thick elbow
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It sucks doing cinderbrew and seeing a ret pally or shammy doing 13-15 mil on big pulls and im luckily to hit 6-7 mil

celest sierra
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Bring back S3 DF lmao

bitter palm
forest ginkgo
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I mean on cinderbrew if u do ur rotation correctly u can peak at about 10-12 million dps

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But it drops fast

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Atleast in my experience

celest sierra
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^ that right there I hate how as fury our damage drops a lot faster then other classes

forest ginkgo
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Oh yeah it drops super fast

thick elbow
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In the bigger keys a fury warrior cant keep up with uncapped classes and we arent far enough ahead on st to justify the trade

celest sierra
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I’ve pulled 9-10mill on cinder open etc on the first pull but I drop so fast compared to other classes

earnest canyon
thick elbow
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Its like im down being less aoe dmg but let me crush u in single target atleast

remote bobcat
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we have consistent 5 target cleave, the only "uncapped" button we have that hits hard is thunderblast, which we spam on our opener

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It's like

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ur complaining about a job

forest ginkgo
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But heres the thing

remote bobcat
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that isnt out job

forest ginkgo
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Next pack the tank pulls

remote bobcat
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our job is not to kill big aoe pulls

earnest canyon
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there was a thing on wowhead that had uncapped aoe spells, but its well out of date

forest ginkgo
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We have cds again

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And the others usually dont

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And then we pull ahead and slam

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And slam again next pack

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And next, and next

celest sierra
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Rets have cds every 30 seconds. Lol. So does Enhance

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And those classes are slapping hard af

forest ginkgo
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And at the very least we still keeo up decently

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And i beat most classes in ST on boss

thick elbow
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Yea was just going to say lol

forest ginkgo
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But the truth at the same time is, other classes do HIGHER dps

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And have more utility

remote bobcat
random raptor
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I can't believe how unlucky I've been with delve bounty maps, I haven't gotten a single one from 9 bountiful delves

thick elbow
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Ok beating someone but a few 100k doesnt make up for beingn beat my a few million on aoe

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The math doesnt math lol

forest ginkgo
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Well we are consistent each pull at the very least

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Never low dps andys

celest sierra
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I rather keep up with the rest of the classes then settle for consistent

thick elbow
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If i do 10 percent more on a boss but u do 50 percent more on aoe wtf type of trade is that l

remote bobcat
burnt crow
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is there a sesason 2 affix weak aura out thats good anyone uses?

celest sierra
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He’ll have u seen BM hunters rn ? Slapping for 12-15mill

random raptor
remote bobcat
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buy wave scrambler 2000

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when using it in a delve

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you get a mini boss

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when he leaves at 50% or so hp

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he drops a gold pile which u can loot

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that pile contains a map guaranteed

random raptor
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wow thanks lol, Is it only usable once?

remote bobcat
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yes

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but u can buy it each week

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and map is limited to once per week

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so there u go

thick elbow
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Also a lot of classes slap every pull theres no reason why we shouldnt be reduced dmg beyond 5

earnest canyon
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because we need 2x 2handers, if we get one fully upgraded, does the 2nd just need valorstones, or do you need to use crests too? Im used to huntard so just have a bow

remote bobcat
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hope that helps

forest ginkgo
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Im planning to have my warrior for main raiding and progress and then playing some broken class in m+ so i can feel good doing billions of aoe

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Not that i dont enjoy fury in m+, i mean i do a lot of dpd

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Dps*

forest ginkgo
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But

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I wanna mix it up

celest sierra
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Just play destro and have the tank keep the pull in one spot and RoF them

earnest canyon
forest ginkgo
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We'll see what class/spec i choose

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But probably just something fun that is meta

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As a nice lil alt

earnest canyon
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i cant believe I havent gotten a single 2hander that I can use, its really pissing me off

forest ginkgo
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U stuck on s1 weps?

earnest canyon
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im casual, but pushing myself to run way more delves than i should and M+ and clear normal raid and raid finder

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yeah

earnest canyon
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i dont have infinite time

forest ginkgo
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Spam +6 dungeons

celest sierra
forest ginkgo
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Fast as fuck to time

earnest canyon
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its hard to get into +3 with my gear

remote bobcat
forest ginkgo
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And u get hero ttack

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Ooooh

remote bobcat
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play with guildies

forest ginkgo
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Well, i honestly recommend finding a guild then that fits ur schedule

earnest canyon
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i dont have a guild

remote bobcat
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?

earnest canyon
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my schedule is "when I feel like playing"

remote bobcat
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Why do so many casual players

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sit in this discord

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yapping

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every night

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at ungodly hours

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just to then say

earnest canyon
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I work from home, i work weird hours

remote bobcat
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nah i dont have the time for a guild

earnest canyon
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so i can sit in discord all day

remote bobcat
#

a guild doesnt require commitment

forest ginkgo
#

Well depends, if u wanna raid u have to commit

remote bobcat
#

you choose what guild you join

#

some want commitment

earnest canyon
#

most decent ones do

forest ginkgo
#

If u wanna just casual social

remote bobcat
#

some dont

forest ginkgo
#

Then no commitment

#

Nah

#

U can be in them

#

And make friends

celest sierra
#

🍿

forest ginkgo
#

And play when u have time

#

I remember when i first started, super bad at the game. Joined a social guild and just played whenever i felt like it

earnest canyon
#

ive played the game for 20 years, i know how guilds work....ive done the hardcore raiding, take 2 weeks off work/school stuff for a new raid, and now im back casual again

forest ginkgo
#

Yeah well, u dont need to commit

earnest canyon
#

really i just want a 2hander, im not looking for clearing aotc or whatever

forest ginkgo
#

Just join, and be there

#

Well be a social

remote bobcat
#

my guy

earnest canyon
#

a raid finder wep is an upgrade

remote bobcat
#

in my guild

#

theres a guy

#

he wants no raids

#

he just comes online whenever

#

hangs out in voice

#

plays keys with us

#

then dips

forest ginkgo
#

Casual stuff

remote bobcat
#

he wants no committed time slots or anything

forest ginkgo
#

And no commitment so on your terms

remote bobcat
#

and it works

earnest canyon
#

i bet u arent eu kronzo

remote bobcat
#

I am

earnest canyon
#

you sound american

remote bobcat
#

you bozo

earnest canyon
#

oh!

remote bobcat
#

im german

earnest canyon
#

oh 😦

#

do you have to speak german

remote bobcat
#

?

earnest canyon
#

to join ur guild....

remote bobcat
#

i dont want u in my guild

#

ngl

earnest canyon
#

lol

forest ginkgo
#

KEKW

earnest canyon
#

i wouldnt either

forest ginkgo
#

Bro im in EU

#

Just join any guild

#

Most guilds are just english speakers

remote bobcat
#

no but in all seriousness

#

i can send u an invite

#

you cna hop on whenever

#

play keys

earnest canyon
#

im in a guild, but its some levelling guild and noone speaks

remote bobcat
#

etc

forest ginkgo
#

Then leave

#

And find a social guild

#

I remember when i guild hopped between like 5 guilds for a period

#

Until i landed in a cool guild i liked

#

And at that time i was super casual and just found cool people

remote bobcat
earnest canyon
#

...........
Ive travelled to the US and finland in the past to meet people from my past guilds

#

I dont need advice on guilds, im just venting about my shit luck

remote bobcat
#

join mine

#

I'll send an inv

subtle zenith
#

Guys, the insanity is growing inside of me, what was the highest overall damage you got in a dungeon?

earnest canyon
#

you just said you didnt want me cos id make you look bad

#

and i will...im casual and suck

remote bobcat
subtle zenith
remote bobcat
#

my goyim quit being negative

#

whats ur ign realm

earnest canyon
#

draenor

remote bobcat
#

ign?

earnest canyon
#

is your guild active and stuff though? and noob tolerant? else i may as well just keep pugging

remote bobcat
#

we have a committed raid

#

but its not a requirement to hang out

#

people run keys

#

from 3s to 11s

#

or 12s n shit

#

for gear for fun

#

obviously right now its dead night

#

but during the day you see plenty gamers

earnest canyon
#

sent u a dm

forest ginkgo
#

Depends on the dungeon tho, the group, a lot of shit

subtle zenith
#

I have an ilvl of 654, and the best I saw till now was 2.5M

forest ginkgo
#

The tank and how bro pulls

#

Yeah dude i do like 2.7 mil in some dungeons, in others i do 3.5 and higher

summer mirage
#

how can I have enough rage to rampage on pull ?

forest ginkgo
#

It REALLY depends

subtle zenith
forest ginkgo
#

And avatar before charge

#

My raid opener is this

remote bobcat
forest ginkgo
#

Reck, avatar, charge, rampage, bladestorm and then yadda yadda

#

As long as avatar is after reck its fine

subtle zenith
#

Ravager of Bladestorm for dungeon? Everybody says ravager but idk

forest ginkgo
#

Well since we play thane in m+

#

Its ravager

feral ivy
#

is priory trinket massive in raid or no?

subtle zenith
#

I hate Ravager so much

forest ginkgo
#

Ravager is gooooodddd

#

Cuz i can do my rotation

#

Instead of sitting in bladestorm

#

And crying from itchy fingers

subtle zenith
#

Yeah but it feels so weak

remote bobcat
subtle zenith
#

I did 1.15B damage with rampage last dungeon, 150M with ravager

#

I am breaking my fingers with my rotation but still, I can't keep the damage up, stats are fine and my enrage should always be up

remote bobcat
#

ravager is good not because it deals damage

#

but because it procs unhinged

#

bloodthirsts

#

that give you thunderblasts

#

the ravager damage itself is kinda whatever

forest ginkgo
# remote bobcat no diff

I mean unless its changed, you should get more rage from the initial value that avatar gives when reck is up. Since reck increases rage generation

#

Unless u meant something else

remote bobcat
#

no diff u have enough

#

actually i lied you do have to reck the avatar rage

#

i yield

stoic star
#

Rik Reverb you lust on pull right?

remote bobcat
stoic star
#

Which bosses in the raid do you not lust on pull. Im stuck raid leading a pug

remote bobcat
turbid bay
#

@subtle zenith ravager is pretty fun though imo every 2nd gcd is rampage in reck. Just smashing through rage

ionic plaza
#

is normal best-in-slost better than a hero track weapon?

remote bobcat
#

at least i dont thnk so

#

try simming it

#

find out

#

ask robot

turbid bay
#

I think there was a pretty big breakdown

#

On wowhead about the weap combos

#

But yeh just simm

torpid elbow
#

signet of the priority good for warriors?

remote bobcat
winter shoal
#

My guild built diffy

remote bobcat
#

nah just mages

#

known to be the worst players in the game

smoky vale
#

im going to crash out

remote bobcat
winter shoal
#

Every tier

#

Every spec

remote bobcat
#

yea but specifically mages tend to suck

earnest canyon
#

what about hunters

flat river
#

unbelievable

remote bobcat
earnest canyon
#

i stopped playing my mage in legion when M+ came out cos I got sick of casting, casting.....KNOCK UP affix....interrupted

remote bobcat
#

for the league players of this discord - mages are quite literally the ADCs of WoW. They behave identically. I have yet to see a single exception.

earnest canyon
#

started playing hunter....but just got bored

earnest canyon
sour frigate
sick viper
#

thane or slayer for bandit?

remote bobcat
remote bobcat
sick viper
#

k thx

#

all warriors play top lane

#

or jungle

#

prolly top tho

earnest canyon
#

i played league for like 10mins....I realised it is not for me

dense elbow
#

Support Poppy is the way

sick viper
#

well its better than wow pvp but thats not saying much lol

#

I'd rather huff Jenkem than play ranked league

sick viper
earnest canyon
#

The only mobas ive enjoyed was the original dota mod on WC3 as it was so new and unlike anything else, and HotS

sick viper
#

League was only good back in 2010

median kestrel
#

how much of a dps loss is having both bis weapon and capital punisher on heroic and not craft ascendance next week?

sick viper
#

when it killed Cata

median kestrel
#

wasnt there a sim somewhere about it

smoky vale
#

uhm

#

ctrl f

#

banezi

#

images

#

@median kestrel

tepid cedar
#

lol

#

playing fury is so amazing yet so demoralizing at times

earnest canyon
#

i find the cadence really satisisfying, as well as the sound

tepid cedar
#

and in comparison lets use enhance

#

both ranked 7. yet his dps rankings is in the 30s! lol shit goes even higher

#

#UNCAP FURYYYYY

lapis scaffold
#

can someone here help me "improve my dps"

#

starting to think fury warrior might be ass

dense elbow
#

We do prio damage, as such is more worthwhile dps
We are fine, everything in fine.

Lukas, take logs to #1347646810457636974

median kestrel
#

in raid not ass, but in m+ compared to other classes it looks like ass

tepid cedar
#

yep thats mainly bc of size of pulls

#

nothing we can do about it

lapis scaffold
#

logs?

median kestrel
#

yeah we can

crude flicker
#

Stop making me consider arms

median kestrel
#

press n and change spec to arms

crude flicker
lapis scaffold
#

wtf are logs

#

this isn't a log

modest condor
#

those things that come from trees

tepid cedar
#

i rather catch herpes a 3rd time then play arms

lapis scaffold
#

this is some bullshit

#

that's what it is

median kestrel
#

i said the same thing but i actually like to do damage so here i am playing both

lapis scaffold
#

playing fury warrior pov

crude flicker
#

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame in me, fool me three times, i play arms warr

modest condor
#

no that's definitely not fury pov

#

that's skill issue pov

lapis scaffold
#

yes it is

#

nah

#

no way

modest condor
#

fury is one of the strongest specs in the raid

tepid cedar
lapis scaffold
#

my build is the same build i got from this discord

#

there is legit no way

#

i use the same rotation and everything

#

how

median kestrel
#

you just dont know what you are doing

#

lol

earnest canyon
lapis scaffold
#

that's some gaslighting ass bullshit

dense elbow
#

Fury ST is big, even I do good boss dam. You doing a bit of trolling or?

median kestrel
#

show logs or something

earnest canyon
modest condor
#

one of the problems with people who dont know what they're doing is that they dont know that they dont know what they're doing

tepid cedar
#

show ur logs. ur palying the class wrong lol

lapis scaffold
median kestrel
#

fury easily top 5 currently in raid

lapis scaffold
#

there are the weapons i use

tepid cedar
#

u cant get help if ur trolling " fury is ass"

median kestrel
#

lmao

#

for starters

tepid cedar
#

wtf

crude flicker
#

If you cant read logs and improve amd understand them, start there

tepid cedar
#

your stats are ass

median kestrel
#

change weapons around

tepid cedar
#

u wonder why u do no dps

earnest canyon
#

swap offhand to mh lmao

#

massive ilevel diff

median kestrel
#

lmao

#

also you have too much haste

young swan
#

hey guys maybe let the person who has the role for helping people actually help the person instead of chain flaming on cd

lapis scaffold
#

whoops

remote bobcat
lapis scaffold
#

ive been doing my best ngl

crude flicker
#

We are fury warriors, we type on short cds

lapis scaffold
#

i started wow last month

#

fr

earnest canyon
#

im not very good myself

lapis scaffold
#

i wanna know what im doing wrong

#

cause ive been grinding my gear hella

young swan
earnest canyon
lapis scaffold
#

i swapped it alr

dense elbow
lapis scaffold
#

one sec

crude flicker
#

@young swan i just want to meme i no troll our brethurs

lapis scaffold
#

this is my build

median kestrel
#

thats pure single target, what boss were you on

lapis scaffold
#

im guessing this is ass

lapis scaffold
stoic star
#

You did better than 4% of the warriors

wispy isle
#

Oof

stoic star
#

is what it means

sudden tusk
median kestrel
#

a 4 doesnt depend on gear

sudden tusk
#

you can legit be the best player in the world but without gear you cannot do anything

lapis scaffold
#

this was on gally yesterday

earnest canyon
#

and on that boss I have 81 and im using 3 619 items and a 626 wep

sudden tusk
# lapis scaffold

also i checked the video you posted above put your highest ilvl weapon in your main hand

sudden tusk
#

makes a significant differance

lapis scaffold
#

i did that ty

#

i need a new build i think

sudden tusk
#

well your gear for sure isnt so bad

#

can you post the log link ill look at it for a sec and give you a few things to focus on to improve dam

young swan
young swan
#

not a bad thing

#

its an easy problem to fix

#

have you read the wowhead guide?

lapis scaffold
#

i hope so

#

some of it yes

dense elbow
# lapis scaffold

Based on that alone, I will say this. Go into #dps-faq and read up on the basics. Especially rotation. Once you have read it, go to a training dummy and try to replicate what you read.

Do this a few times, try to notice what you are doing wrong. Don't get frustrated, it is a learning process

Repeat from step 1 till you are comfortable on what and how to do things

lapis scaffold
#

i read rotation and copied skills

young swan
#

if written guides arent your jam then madox has some guides up on youtube as well

#

i think ninommo has some quick video guides too

#

but the biggest thing is getting the ability priority down

lapis scaffold
#

so playing fury warrior isn't my issue? it's the buttons i'm pressing?

young swan
#

correct

dense elbow
#

Yep, lack of experience and gearing, probs

earnest canyon
lapis scaffold
#

i need help lol

dense elbow
#

Do what you been told, give it a week of work, and you will be lightyears ahead of where you are now

earnest canyon
#

Im not very good, I justhave a WA package that shows what ability is buffed or available, and lights them up....then i press them in priority order and I do ok

lapis scaffold
#

can someone link a video or sum

sudden tusk
young swan
#

click any of the website links there

sudden tusk
#

warriors preformance is very uptime dependant so always hitting buttons doing dam is very important

lapis scaffold
#

i don't really even "hit buttons" tbh

#

i click them

#

like i click the skills

young swan
#

definitely an issue

earnest canyon
#

well thats going to massively reduce your dps

#

and make mechanics sometimes impossible

lapis scaffold
#

idk how to assign other skills to certain keys

remote bobcat
lapis scaffold
#

yep

sudden tusk
#

but clicking will 100% slow you down

earnest canyon
#

how did you get into a heroic raid if you have only been playing for a month lol

sudden tusk
#

i would highly reccomend taking time to read over the Fury wowhead guide

earnest canyon
#

where did you get that gear from

lapis scaffold
#

i did well on the normal raid last night

lapis scaffold
#

wym

remote bobcat
#

@lapis scaffold just know one main thing, which I bet you made mistakes on - do not press whirlwind when you do not have improved whirlwind talented

earnest canyon
# lapis scaffold grinding bro

just most people that have been playing for only a month and cant bind keys, wouldnt even know where to get items at your ilevel, or be able to do the content is all

lapis scaffold
#

i have a dedication to get good

#

idk wow is fun

#

even though moments like these are pain

earnest canyon
#

if you are having fun i wouldnt care about logs so much or what people say

#

its a game, not a job

sudden tusk
remote bobcat
#

(like me)

dense elbow
# lapis scaffold i click them

Just spend some time in-game Lukas. Try to get used to pressing keyboard buttons.
It takes some time, but is worthwhile.

Go to the training dummy and just start learning by doing.

Start with just pressing buttons, look at them on screen and press the key. Repeat till it becomes natural.

Last step is to remove the keybinds from your screen. But you are far from there

remote bobcat
#

(I like parsing)

earnest canyon
#

yes, everyone is different

sudden tusk
#

Theres nothing wrong with just starting out and wanting to improve. it will just take time.

lapis scaffold
#

all this information is so much to digest

#

plus it's confusing because i use the same build on that guide

dense elbow
#

It is what you press, not what options you have. Keep that in mind

remote bobcat
#

yo Lukas you need an experienced lad to give you a hand more than you need a video guide i believe

sudden tusk
#

also right now you are probably bare minimum 10% behind anyone with similar item level without tier

fossil swallow
#

Yo can anyone else check their Cyrclet gem buff uptimes? Just killed Rik with literally zero buffs from any of the gems... In fact, I only see 4 of our raid members that received any of the buffs for the entire fight.

#

Somethin seems scuffed

sudden tusk
#

i've made videos but my content is not directed at fresh brand new players so i don't think what i've made will help you

remote bobcat
#

juding by your name, are u german like me?

#

judging*

lapis scaffold
#

i am yes

remote bobcat
#

based

lapis scaffold
#

im mixed

remote bobcat
#

hop on voice

#

rn

#

if u want

lapis scaffold
#

bet

remote bobcat
#

down in general

#

if u scroll down the channels

rotund zenith
rotund zenith
sullen dove
fossil swallow
rotund zenith
#

I had 2 procs on the one I sent so

#

No clue how the ring works I just put in shit and press buttons hard :D

crude flicker
#

Someone enlarge my brain. Radiant MH/Depths OH is simming higher on M+ and ST, albiet double radiant sims much better in M+ but not ST, the hell is with depths am I missing? 35k damage three times vs 243k smite and 2230 mainstat buff?

#

Why do we run double depths Pepehands

#

Missing 4460 mainstat on proc for what like 135k dmg whenever? (Edit: 135k x2)

#

Is it the proc rate possibly?

winter shoal
earnest canyon
crude flicker
#

I was just curious because from a pure read why wouldnt we want the chance for the stat proc vs measly damage, I was just seeing if there was something I was overlooking. I’m glad i found it out. And maybe, i’m only 650 rn

earnest canyon
#

yeah idk, i cant make the robot tell me depths is better 🤷

crude flicker
#

Praise robot

earnest canyon
#

im only 640 equipped lol

#

im 646 in bags, but it sims worse

#

ive got every trinket under the sun, but i cant get a 2nd 2h wep

#

or tier

crude flicker
#

I got lucky with champ eye, house of cards and BIS, rocking a mix of champ/hero 4pc tier rn

rotund zenith
#

Double radiant sims 0.4% better for me in dungeon slice, but even radiant+depths sims 0.8% lower on patchwerk. So you lose a little going depths for dungs/aoe, vs losing more on ST going radiant. At least for my case. Might change with gear but I've been rocking depths since the very start of xpac

crude flicker
#

Crazy how finicky the enchants are, really are just very dependant

#

Cool though, glad i found a way to get some more m+ damage

earnest canyon
#

i think purely from the fact fury needs 2x 2handers, it should always do the highest dps in the game, ilevel vs ilevel

#

i didnt realise what a pain in the ass this would be

#

my rogue? 2x 1handers....hunter? 1x bow.....pala? 1x 2hander

#

this is just pain

crude flicker
#

Gearing fury is the epitome of hard work vs reward, but the downside now is the reward is kinda meh, just fighting your own ego

#

But for diehard warriors, its all we know

earnest canyon
#

i mean in classic warrior was dogshit but scaled better than any class with gear

#

dogshit to level i mean....kill one mob, eat

#

etc

#

this reminds me of that trying to get another 2hander....i dont even care about stats at this point

crude flicker
#

Oh absolutely, leveling was terrible but one you got db flurry

#

You’re a machine

halcyon oak
#

First time main'ing war. First time posting in this discord. Just wanted to ask if the 675 crafted 2h-sword is better than the 675 crafted 2h-axe, even if the 2h axe is simming higher?

#

Asking this based on WoWHead listing 2h-sword as BiS crafted

rotund zenith
#

It makes no difference

halcyon oak
#

Okay

rotund zenith
#

Pretty sure at least don't quote me on that

crude flicker
#

I thought so too but didnt wanna feed any false info, so agree ^

modest condor
#

"It makes no difference" - Zwoooz 14 march 2025

#

you're right tho

rotund zenith
#

Wowhead agrees with me so I will call myself correct

modest condor
#

weapon type is just flavor

halcyon oak
#

Okay lol. Ty.

crude flicker
#

Swords just look the best, and im an orc

sullen dove
#

axe looks cheeks

rotund zenith
#

An orc not running axes??

sullen dove
#

sword also cheeks i think

crude flicker
#

Axes upside down on back, gross

sullen dove
#

big dinner plate

#

the spear is the best

crude flicker
#

Bro i LOVE the one hander sheathe look

#

Gimmie that shit but with 2h

#

I got my mf waist STRAPPED

rotund zenith
#

Not being able to mog 1handers with 2h fury is so shit

crude flicker
#

I’ll never forget you Crul’Shorukh

earnest canyon
earnest canyon
#

hmm?

crude flicker
#

Fun police detected

elder spindle
#

I'm seeing about as many fury in the top 100 as arms for m+. Can anyone comment on the relative merits of arms vs fury right now for a mere mortal pushing like 12-13s?

remote bobcat
#

both specs have damage on pretty much every single pack

cinder fable
#

Fury is tankier

remote bobcat
#

but yes, fury is tankier

elder spindle
#

Interesting. Kinda sounds to me like fury is the better choice overall for pugging (prior damage more important than padding and tankier). I also like fury better so yeah. Is arms like stupidly fun or anything? I haven't played it since Legion. I'll give it a shot myself, just curious how other fury fans feel about it.

arctic salmon
#

arms is fun to do 10 mil burst damage on huge pulls

remote bobcat
#

i used to be an arms hater and i have a blast playing colossus arms. You set up all your big cooldowns to then hit that gigantic demolish button which jumps your dps from 2mil to anything north of 3mil depending on enemy count

arctic salmon
#

i like this incarnation of arms better than the last ones, chasing that legion tomb arms fix

#

and we're doing similar numbers now to legion

elder spindle
#

Coo, sounds like I need to give it a whirl then

#

Been trying to play DK and...I hate it

red berry
#

id play arms if my stats werent bad for it

#

i have no crit at all

remote bobcat
elder spindle
remote bobcat
#

yes

elder spindle
#

So I personally feel that good prio damage profiles have extra value in pugs

remote bobcat
#

we hate rets

#

fury in keys good, big prio and boss damage

#

yes

#

and in pugs there arent really giga pulls (which fury sucks at) so fury value goes up

elder spindle
#

Yeah I'll check out arms, but unless I love it I'll probly switch to fury. Always been a fan.

remote bobcat
sudden tusk
#

nah that ball rolling music

#

owns

meager gyro
#

finally started playing my warrior today is eye of kezan still good after nerfs?

earnest canyon
#

so id say yeah

meager gyro
#

oh don't worry I'm not being serious, never answer me seriously unless I give the serioussloth face

earnest canyon
#

oh ok....was just trying to be helpful

meager gyro
#

I'm just showing that my woyer that has 2 hours on season has the trinket from that silly tw quest

thick fossil
#

AotC out of the way. 1st mythic down as well.

#

Fucking sad, I had to be 3rd tank. >.<

dense elbow
#

Onwards to HoF you go catman

fickle cedar
#

im free deadge

meager gyro
chilly fractal
#

how many runs

fickle cedar
#

around 30, gave up on spamming 10s, just 7s and then ill just upgrade

chilly fractal
#

I did 6s

#

27 runs I think it took

tepid cedar
remote zephyr
#

The Reck/Avatar and Charge for rampage opener is inconsistent for me, how do you always get enough rage for rampage?

meager gyro
#

ravager helps

floral cipher
#

If you pull boss it resets your rage bar

remote zephyr
#

oh I see

chrome forge
inner pine
#

is there any benefit whatsoever to doing tier 9 delves as opposed to 8?

fickle cedar
silk wharf
#

Gildeds and a slight increase of gold

#

And also 11s are easy

remote zephyr
#

best in slots I think is better

inner pine
chrome forge
chrome forge
inner pine
past pivot
fervent wind
fervent wind
past pivot
#

And it’s on the higher ones. 11 for sure. Not sure about 9 or 10

fervent wind
#

Ya idk, kind of chillin, haven't pushed past 8, grabbing ilvl where I can for now

inner pine
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@remote bobcat showed me a lot last night, boosted me a little bit and helped me out. very friendly and helpful discord.

fervent wind
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I played fury war s1-3 of DF, quit for S4, played arcane mage last season but quit early

remote bobcat
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hi thats me what hi

remote bobcat
inner pine
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I didnt have to use the rope!

remote bobcat
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I just tanked a chill motherlode 9 key trying to get the ring and i had a warlock whisper me not to move the mobs out of his rain of fire. Meanwhile that same warlock when i didnt move packs at all:

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he ass pulled all the peacekepers too

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some people are weirdge

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surely I'll get the ring for fury spec next time i hit that dungeon

inner pine
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a friend told me

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I can delete the cyrce's circlet

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and restore it

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and it will let me upgrade my other ring for cheap

remote bobcat
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this trick works

inner pine
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I am gonna try that lol

remote bobcat
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before u do it

inner pine
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take out the gems?

remote bobcat
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equip it in both ring slots

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take out the gems

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and then log out

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log back in

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delete it

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get new ring from NPC

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equip in both slots

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log out

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log back in

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(to avoid bugs)

inner pine
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the npc to get it is on the isle right?

remote bobcat
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yessir

inner pine
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if you lose it

remote bobcat
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the island i showed u