fury

[iron portal]

You can only craft 675

And will have to wait till next week but yea, it is a good item to craft first

[hushed walrus]

675 i mean sry

[tardy lark]

@oblique trail

meow at him

[oblique trail]

[last sparrow]

🐱

[tender seal]

What's the ilevel of a non-spark crafted cloak in 2? :>

[bitter meadow]

Whoops i don't know how i fat fingered that. I'm so sorry lol

[tender seal]

u got a link to the sim as well? is the crafted cloak max ilvl?

[limber oar]

This is archi’s infographic

[tender seal]

ah

[limber oar]

#1237307555961634826 message

If you wanna see it and all the messages and context he provides

[tender seal]

ty

[limber oar]

Very basically ive heard that many dont want to craft a 2h cause it slows down the pre-mythic BiS/punisher alternative of mythic vault weapon + H BiS and double duskthread

Especially if youre swapping between specs for raid bosses to maximize dmg that matters (like playing arms on last 3 heroic/mythic bosses but fury on the others

[tender seal]

I already have a Heroic Best-In slots 😅 It's why im a little weary.. i play both arms and fury.

[limber oar]

Then crafting a weapon with writhing armor is literally only .1% dps above waiting for a mythic weapon and crafting double thread

If im understanding the infographic properly

And getting that mythic vault weapon is .2% more dps than crafting an ascension weapon too

[radiant plank]

Might want to note that the bsl uptime is set to 60% on those sims

[tender seal]

60% is very very conservative imho

[flat river]

Aight gimme a sec

[limber oar]

Relatively ya i mean again it’s archi’s infographic i trust that man’s simming ability with my life

When archi speaks, i listen

[tender seal]

Ofc - i agree

[limber oar]

Idk i got a mythic chest in my first cault and grappled with the reality of crafting a weapon next week

But looking at this dps makes me realize it probably wont be worth down the line cause double thread is just better

And if i get a single mythic weapon in my vault in the next 3 weeks it’ll have not really been worth it for sure

Ofc all this doesnt matter cause if i just get a weapon next vault i just take that and double craft and stop thinking

And pray my guild gives me the next H BiS that drops

[last sparrow]

you guys had a heroic bis drop yet?

[proud crown]

are sims kinda jank with double capital punisher?

[forest owl]

my guild got 1x hc 1x nm

[granite crown]

Are you committed to Arms completely then? Looks like all fury bosses until Bandit in my mind, which is a while to go

[frank jolt]

I've been exclusively playing fury so far this season, but my RL is saying Arms is pulling way ahead of fury on mythic difficulty, which we will be starting to do this week.
I do feel kinda sus about it though, the two specs feel almsot identically strong. I have barely any gear for arms so I would be forced to dungeon spam to swap, but I feel like fury has the umph as well, right?

[proud crown]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

im playing fury on mythic

[radiant plank]

Raidleader is cluegi deluxe

[granite crown]

Does your raidleader make assumptions based on public logs of first 2 bosses?

[hoary agate]

I think either works arms/fury similar boss damage when played well. depends on if your guild needs more aoe burst I guess for adds or if execute damage is relevant

[frank jolt]

No, he watches like a ton of streams and shit. Usually has a good insight into stuff, but I tend to disagree here, I feel confident as fury going into mythic. There is one other warrior in our team, he's arms and we are so close, it's almost 50/50 who beats the other on each bosses

[heavy dock]

so tell him hes a poopoo head and let u play fury

[granite crown]

Was asking that guy specifically because he said a mythic craft would be completely wasted if he got a myth weapon in vault, which isn't true if he's playing fury on at least a few important prog bosses 😛

[heavy dock]

id rather vomit than be forced to play arms

i tried arms in a key last night and it felt so bad

[warm crag]

grow up lol

[hoary agate]

arms is blasting keys tbh :/ having much fun with both specs rn

pumping more and doing more relevant damage on arms for me personally

[warm crag]

both are overtuned just play what you want kings

[heavy dock]

forcing people to play a spec that does the same dmg as the spec you are playing rn is a higher offense lol

esp if u dont have the gear for it

[hoary agate]

just play arms and play like dogshit on purpose, he will soon swap you back to fury

[warm crag]

oh i just read the original message

wtf is your rl doing man

arms is better on cauldron thats abt it

[heavy dock]

does arms not have whirlwind anymore btw

i remember it existing in df

[warm crag]

cleave talent replaces ww

[heavy dock]

ah rly

thats odd lol

[warm crag]

ye nice change imo

[heavy dock]

ud think thunder clap would replace it

but it makes sense ig

[warm crag]

tc is just a rend engine at this point

[heavy dock]

ye ive noticed

[clever belfry]

• rend sucks too

[warm crag]

@clever belfry do i pick recon or repulsor or is it a sim question

[clever belfry]

7

[warm crag]

check your dms anda i will send you the most vile and evil liveleak video

[eternal sundial]

@warm crag did your secretary notify you

[warm crag]

oh sec

[heavy dock]

what sidearm is it

have they still not added a 3 burst solar with incan

[solemn plover]

Im not the secretary

[warm crag]

rocket sidearm

[solemn plover]

I own the site

I get the money

[warm crag]

its special

very broken

[heavy dock]

ye i heard about them

[native wadi]

Im on the third on mythic now. First one is a meme so dont even bother, fury even pulls way ahead as you can help cleaning adds. Second boss arms does more dmg but the incoming dmg is mental and fury really helps there being more tanky and very close in numbers.

[heavy dock]

im still mad about my last hope getting forcefully removed from my hands

[warm crag]

they unsunsetted everything a year ago ye

[native wadi]

Only boss where arms could be required would be one arm and mug zee

[heavy dock]

yea but by todays standards its pretty bad

[native wadi]

And still fury does well too

[tender seal]

I played fury in raid last night for the first time this season and holyyy do you feel safe lol... so tanky

[native wadi]

Its a panzer

[heavy dock]

yep fury is crazy tanky

[native wadi]

And still very low in survival rates

[limber oar]

Ive been gearing for both specs because im primarily playing arms in mythic. I tried fury but really didnt feel as useful as i did with arms

[native wadi]

Makes you think

[heavy dock]

esp if u have a racial that also heals u

[native wadi]

Haha

M+ is arms no contest

[tender seal]

cus warrior 🧠

[warm crag]

arms isnt exactly squishy either

just press a defensive or two

[heavy dock]

idk in raids as fury im usually the last ones to die on a wiping fight unless i step in some sht

[heavy nacelle]

guys are 1st two mythic bosses puggable yet? 🙂

[warm crag]

first is maybe

[native wadi]

The first probably

Second no fucking way

Hahahahahaha

[heavy dock]

i mean tbh from crit's video the fight doesnt look hard mechanically

numbers probably

[native wadi]

You need coordination

[heavy dock]

yea with the bomb ive seen

[native wadi]

For moving well in blue, doing the toys etc

Bomb is kinda easy

[heavy dock]

toys

what

[native wadi]

Problem is blue and toys

There are toys around the room

That you have to push so they fight and explode

[heavy dock]

oh wtf lmao

[native wadi]

If you push two and the same time

Heals will flame for sure

Hahahaahahaha

Its a fun encounter tbh

[heavy dock]

it looks kinda fun

wish i had a guild to mythic raid with

but at the same time not rly cuz scheduled raiding .. not for me anymore lol

just wish i had more reliable people to do keys with at least pff

[limber oar]

There are m+ guilds you could join 🤷‍♂️

[frank jolt]

I've been slapping real hard with Thane M+ ngl

[native wadi]

Pulls are too big for fury

[late night]

hello guys ! useful to track the 4p bonus? and someone would have a weakaura for that ? thank you all

[native wadi]

But you can still smash 10s easy in both

Or go prot and get first in the meters

[blissful pendant]

Im trying to think what to get in my vault:
649 Hero Tier
649 Crit/Vers Weapon
(I already have 1 tier piece)
Also next week Im crafting my 675 weapon

[native wadi]

I would go tier then next week craft weap and upgrade another one from hc track for free

[blissful pendant]

cool, that's what I tought

I also play arms, so the crafted weapon will be bonkers until I get Best-In-Slots

[native wadi]

Unless you wanna bang this week, 649 weap is easy to farm tho

[blissful pendant]

yeah, I don´t think I want to grab a Crit/Vers weapon

[tardy lark]

You dont care about what stats are on a weapon as long as its an item level upgrade

[thick fossil]

Weapon dps out weighs any secondary stats. Stop thinking like a caster.

I almost lost my mind last night during raid. The druid that nabbed BiS didn't know you could use the on use as well as it proc'ing. I had my disappointment mom face on.

[warm crag]

powerful

tell them to use it before combat so they dont have a weapon

[glass quarry]

is there any weakaura for the 4p yet?

[warm crag]

you dont really play around it

you can play around the bt crit chance part of it but that just requires you to fix your bt crit tracker if you have one

[radiant plank]

you play around it to not munch procs innit

[warm crag]

nuh uh

idk i dont have it maybe u do

at least i didnt read any cosnideration of it in the apl

[coarse nest]

Decided to fool around with fury for the first 4 heroic reclears and man is it goofy to see all the buttons light up constantly on the Naowhui lmao

So many conditions now

[modest nimbus]

What is the best between put bt in higher prio than rb or waiting 3+ stacks to use bt so it have a higher chance to crit ?

[versed seal]

is tehre a go to fury weak aura pack for this patch?

[hazy cedar]

Fury sux

[chilly fractal]

Just turn your UI off and smash buttons

The only way to fury

[coarse nest]

It’s wicked bro

[spring jacinth]

Is there a weakaura to track 4set stuff ? or is that not worth thinking about it for your rotation?

[coarse nest]

Like RB lights up, BT lights up, full rage for rampage, SD 2 charges

All at the same time

[heavy dock]

that happens on the normal ui too xd

except bladestorm also lights up

[coarse nest]

Like what is that lmao

Can we go back to rampage > RB > BT please

[heavy dock]

real

i wish we could go back to pressing execute when a sudden death procs not having to have 1/4 conditions happen

for slayer

but execute is just a tool to reduce bladestorm cd.. not for dmg

[warm crag]

the bt crit part of it might be worth tracking but a well written bt crit tracker probably already covers that

[fading sky]

Or ramp > bt > rb idc

[spring jacinth]

@warm crag that i'm already tracking, but was wondering if there's something newer that people are using. but ty!

[quiet breach]

the moment the boss enters combat with the tank is it safe to open? or do I have to wait till the tank melee's the boss

[sour tundra]

does fury even press execute anymore lol

seems like everything else is higher priority

[fading sky]

Execute has high prio??

If conditions are met

3 marks or 2 sd procs

U just hit it

[wary iris]

Button glow. Me press button.

[rare garnet]

I just hit buttons. Ramp > Ex > BT > RB. If I wanted to think I would play a DH.

[wary iris]

All me see is brown on top of meter. Like mud on top of hut.

[chilly fractal]

Mud on the helmet

[silk perch]

https://tenor.com/view/fuwamoco-fuwawa-squint-3d-sees-a-cat-gif-10875259877870349219

[quiet breach]

execute glows often when the conditions haven't been met

[rare garnet]

Don’t care. Just smash.

[silk perch]

say THAT to my 1 mil overall brother

[marble schooner]

lol

[warm crag]

my condolences

[terse heath]

I have a question the tome of light's devotion is not suppose to work for non tanks, but you can change it to dps mode and swap specs and keep the damage buff. Would that make the trinket good enough for ST to use?

[quiet breach]

lmaooo

[solemn plover]

A virus found its way on my tablet

[warm crag]

what the fuck purge it now

[quiet breach]

is this trinket better than anything u can get in a dungeon?

[wary iris]

You want Seaforium Pacemaker Bruther. From Flooding Gate.

[finite owl]

Flooding Gate, how I loathe the

[wary iris]

And Mechano-Core Amplifier, from Delves/World Boss. Hero track if big luck.

[feral ivy]

during reck and ravager what are yall spamming ? ramp and RB over and over?

or ramp and BT i see ppl do either

[finite owl]

the world boss drops a trinket?

[hardy bluff]

he can

also world quests can give the trinket

open world loot is the same as delve loot

mostly

[wary iris]

Personally, me get Mechano-Core from Delver Bounty, but should be in world loot pool.

[wary iris]

Raid or M+?

[feral ivy]

m+

[wary iris]

You running Mountain Thane?

[feral ivy]

yea

[wary iris]

I prio BT over RB for that.

Chance to proc Thunder Blast.

BT/Ramp.

Well, Ramp>Thunder Blast>BT.

You'll still have space for RB occasionally anyway. And it all benefits eachother in the end.

[bitter palm]

Do not worry. I am John McAfee

https://tenor.com/view/mcfee-gif-2200127827483412412

[fair thistle]

don't you prio BT only if you 100% crit OR enemy focus target has health below 35% ?

ah yeah thunder blast proc nvm

even on bosses ?

[modest condor]

no you're right about those conditionals, altho it's not 100% crit it's 3+ stacks of bloodcraze

thunder blast is barely worth pressing on singletarget

[fair thistle]

i find it worth on ST if BT has no buffs

with thunder proc

[gilded pawn]

Archi did say 3 stacks is just a simplified version of 100%

[fair thistle]

often goes to 1M5-2M for 1 GCD

[hardy bluff]

im sure all the theorycrafters just didnt know it did that much damage

[modest condor]

http://puu.sh/KpToo/52f11830a3.png

[wary iris]

Sorry, me was talking big pulls. Yea, on boss/single target I change prio like silmarilen is saying.

I associate M+ with nothing but big pulling constantly, lol.

[modest condor]

on big pulls you prio bt yeah

[fair thistle]

i'm not sure of understanding ur screen

[wary iris]

Sil is saying that you don't need to focus the BT for Thunderblast procs if you're in a single-target/boss encounter.

It swaps prio since Raging Blow will benefit you more in that. So pretty much
You pulling trash between bosses? Ramp>Thunder Blast>BT.
You fighting the boss? Ramp > RB > Execute.

[modest condor]

i mean im saying thunder blast is barely worth pressing on singletarget, but yeah that does imply that bt doesnt have prio on st because the thing it procs is fairly weak

bt is higher prio than execute on bosses btw

it's not uncommon to have 0 execute casts in a dungeon

[wary iris]

Is it? I know they keep nerfing execute but I hadn't simmed BT vs Execute.

[modest condor]

as thane you dont use any of the execute talents

so it's just a button that does some damage

while rb and bt both have synergies with other stuff and procs and shit

[wary iris]

Not even for the lightningbolt procs or anything?

[modest condor]

nope

[fair thistle]

on MT yeah by far

exec just simply do less damage

[wary iris]

My bad then. Cut Exec out. I thought it was worth it for the Lightning procs between Raging Blows.

[modest condor]

remember execute is only usable <20% as thane

and at that point you're also in vicious contempt range

which makes bloodthirst do way more damage than execute

[fair thistle]

yeah

[quiet breach]

so are all the people going hard as fuck since season started playing 40+ hours a week gonna run out of stuff to do on their main in a couple weeks

besides raid log

[modest condor]

depends on what their goal in the game is

[wary iris]

Me have no life so I'll be farming 10s for Myth weekly vaults till s3.

[quiet breach]

oh yeah I forgot u have to at least play enough to do 8 +10s per week

to maximize your character

[rotund ginkgo]

any EU brothers to help me spam keys for a weapon

:3

[solemn plover]

John McAfee how do i delete her pdf file from my device

[bitter palm]

https://tenor.com/view/mcfee-gif-2200127827483412412

[solemn plover]

Does it involve copious amounts of drugs

[bitter palm]

It might

[solemn plover]

I cannot handle your weakest drug

[smoky vale]

[bitter palm]

gotta build resistance bud

[solemn plover]

Truth

[solemn plover]

Even here it follows me

[bitter palm]

[finite spruce]

Any of you guys prio RB for x amount of slaughtering strikes stacks before rampage during recklessness or just sending rampage when it is available?

[modest condor]

just send rampage when it's available unless you have burtal finish up then you spam all your raging blows first

[frank bay]

is it worth to catalys champion gear for m+ or should i just wait for hero gear

whats the % of dps increase?

[ornate gust]

I catalyst 1 champ gear and 1 hero gear

[frank bay]

so are you saying 2p is worth it?at the least?

[ornate gust]

I looted 2 tier set from the raid and catalyst 2 items.. So I went from 4 tier sets to 4 tier sets

[covert blaze]

herreal

[solemn plover]

thats normal her

[halcyon python]

Fury is PUMPING tbh

Having a blast with it

[austere trout]

for crafting gear for fury war what is the best thing to craft and what embellishment

[rotund ginkgo]

@smoky vale help me get weapon

[smoky vale]

im na habibi

[rotund ginkgo]

BRAZA

:I

whos EU and wants to help me get a weapon before raid

2 and a half hours

[solemn plover]

he habibi'd him

[rotund ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-despair-meme-atone-gif-18083281511005463831

[rotund ginkgo]

wahalli

have u seen that vid?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkar3hKEhl0 @solemn plover

[elder epoch]

anyone got a good 4set weakaura?

[rotund ginkgo]

isnt it fully passive

and changes nothing in our rotation?

[blissful pendant]

I made myself a pretty one

[elder epoch]

dunno if there is any min maxing shit around it

[gleaming siren]

no

Just press buttons as you normally would gg

[elder epoch]

then its w/e

ty

[past pivot]

Need a WA telling folks tier is meh this season.

[gleaming siren]

You could ignore like half the optimizations in the APL and be almost as good

[rotund ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/geeked-locked-in-angry-bubu-red-bird-red-gif-13807202352659823415

[proper onyx]

#1237307555961634826 message

[austere trout]

@proper onyx Tysm :

[proper onyx]

TLDR weapon with ascension unless you get mythic from vault dusk/dawn lining is better

[red berry]

i do wish theyd buff the tierset a little

[dense elbow]

Why? Our ST is fine

If you want more TierSet power, then you got to remove power from our baseline.
Why would you want to do that for a super boring TierSet?

[pulsar prawn]

berserkers torment is addative or ? so no matter when i press reck or avatar its always added to the timer or ?!

[oblique trail]

Correct

[gusty cloak]

hey guys, doesnt playing without odyn's fury feel off?

i have a empty button there

[pulsar prawn]

not rly ^^

[warm crag]

what is this speck in skyhold

[fringe anchor]

yeah you can send them together

[tidal beacon]

do we only slam bt at 85% in st?

[pulsar prawn]

60% or with VC

[warm crag]

where did you get the 60% number from

[sullen dove]

holy shit herhd

[warm crag]

she is very dangerous

[pulsar prawn]

not sure anymore . but with 3 stacks its 45% from archis guide + you have like 10-20% via gear ^^ so that fits imo

[solemn plover]

nah her is weaker than my dog spongie

[warm crag]

what about reck

just get a weakaura that tells you your bt crit chance and play around that instead pls

[warm crag]

my dog spongie has powerful capabilities like waiting until you've exited combat for 10 seconds and started using a big heal to come start healing you

[south kayak]

how do you do last boss in rookery

with this fucking affix

cba

[bitter palm]

just kill him

attack very powerfully

[pulsar prawn]

what .. thats not the point

[warm crag]

it is the point

[sullen dove]

I mean u get a massive speed boost with big circle u kinda CAN stack with each other in the middle

and 2 chumps branch off left and right

[south kayak]

too many stuff on the ground

[warm crag]

affix to filter out the noobers

[bitter palm]

spingus i need help with this puzzle

[earnest canyon]

Hit box of boss is enormous

[warm crag]

mathematically unsolvable

[solemn plover]

solved it mathmatically

[warm crag]

holy shit

[sullen dove]

But how get the gold

you must… reach?

[smoky vale]

guys

can someone make that game

but not aids

[solemn plover]

my finger grabbed the water and gold one at the same time

[bitter palm]

ty

[warm crag]

someone did

[warm crag]

it gets mindnumbingly boring after 3 minutes

[solemn plover]

i own it

spongie (red) stole it from me

[warm crag]

true

[bitter palm]

only 6 minutes....

[smoky vale]

only 6

is that how long you last...

[solemn plover]

bro you wanna see the game

its SO BORING

[smoky vale]

its just baby math or what

[solemn plover]

you know every single ad game

it has them

the stupid shoot at gates

the pull away pins

all of them

[smoky vale]

xdd

not paying $3 for it though

[summer quail]

6 minute playtime

insane

[sullen cloak]

Can I ask a couple of questions please?

Is it possible to create a WA that shows BT crit chance so I know when to hit it?

Do I priorities RB over rampage in general?

[summer quail]

yes to the first one. uhh kind of to the second one

[sullen cloak]

Whats the basic decision on whether to hit Rampage over RB?

Obviously hit rampage to enrage but then I usualy hit 2 x RB before hitting rampage again

[next ruin]

If you're asking yourself those questions, just hit rampage whenever you can

[robust basin]

Does anyone have any tips on what the best Spark use / embellishment would be for someone who plans to play both Fury and Arms in Raid?

Maybe a Duskthread combo?

[sullen cloak]

ok thank you. Can any one link a WA that will help with BL Crit chance plesse

[warm crag]

probs craft a 2h next week unless you loot a mythic weapon

[next ruin]

Most weakaura packs have it by default

I know afenar warrior pack has it, if you don't find one you can always copy it from his pack

[summer quail]

😎

[livid fiber]

Yo guys, if u focus only on m+, still using 2x Duskthread Woven as embellishments?

[buoyant cape]

does a double down proc from 4p give bt a higher prio than rb?

[graceful elk]

So I got insanely lucky and got Best in slots from my box for time walking but the sim says it’s shit? Is it bugged?

[frank dawn]

is it in caster form

when you did your simc input

[graceful elk]

I guess I don’t understand what that is

[coarse nest]

Normal slots might not be better than your current weapon

Ilvl does matter

[livid fiber]

For me even the nhc version sims higher als the max crafted weapon (as offhand)

[graceful elk]

It was a 30 ilevel up

[frank dawn]

the same weapon swaps between intellect and strength, it might still not be your best choice but if its saying its shit seems like you have it in the intellect form

make sure it actually has the strength on it lol, use it outside of combat to swap it if not

[graceful elk]

I find it crazy hard to believe it would be worse that the 619 weapon a upgraded from the auction house

[frank dawn]

link sim

[livid fiber]

btw: simple dungeon slice sims for m+, or more patchwork multiple targets?

[lean nacelle]

as mountain thane do I just not press thunder blast at all in ST unless it's the only thing I can press

[graceful elk]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tGMPVioiRwk6Vs4NJZ7f4k

[trail locust]

do you play around the 4p bonus?

[sullen dove]

its in intellect mode

you rightclicked it out of combat

right click it again

[graceful elk]

O wtf ok. So I guess I don’t understand how to use it lol didn’t know it had an intellectual mode

[sullen dove]

you just use it in combat to get the stats

idk if its a channel or an insta cast to transform it

but would assume its a channel

[graceful elk]

So like dash in and then use it

[sullen dove]

yea

[graceful elk]

So what would be my rotation now with it?

Opener I mean

[sullen dove]

the exact same as before pretty much

since u dont have an on use trinket you can pretty much just use the weapon around when you use avatar

but i think generally a good on use trinket will be better so more often than not people would prolly just send the weapon on use when they can after pull

might not line up exactly with cds

[graceful elk]

I got you so in the raid I do later. I pre pop my avatar and shit dash in and then use it?

[sullen dove]

but stats are stats

yea basically

if you have reck on a separate keybind i think typically youd reck > charge > avatar/weapon and start doing damage

but tbh idk how much it matters since hitting avatar basically hits reck already

[graceful elk]

Yea exactly I have them macro together with reck, avatar, racial

[bitter palm]

use

[sullen dove]

that mt aoe spec is also not the best for raid or if you were just simming

[bitter palm]

#showtooltip
/use [combat] 16

this ensures u can only use it in combat

[sullen dove]

[graceful elk]

Yea I just simmed it on my phone after I cut the game off I was still in MT. I raid in slayer

[sullen dove]

noice

[spare steppe]

Are folks leaning to ascendance or just going to skip it and go to duskweave?

i know to sim just curious kf my own insanity

[sullen dove]

if you get a m weapon elsewhere crafted weapon not that important

[livid fiber]

its instant btw

[sullen dove]

i think ascendance still like ahead of duskweave pure st but like you would also need a third spark to craft a good writhing doubler embellishment which would take another 2 weeks

[spare steppe]

so if i dont get a mythic weapon from raid or vault this week, then its a much harder decision

[sullen dove]

think 2 duskweave all around better cuz lot of aoe in the raid and works in m+ but like weapon ilvl is insane

yea

heres hoping

surely will not be mcfucked next week

[livid fiber]

so since i´ve got a mythic weapon from the vault and "Best in Slots" on 658 in my offhand, i´m good for 2 duskweave crafts?

[sullen dove]

o yea for sure

[iron portal]

Lucky you

[sullen dove]

blow up btw

but yea

i mean sim replacing the bis with crafted ascendance but even if its a little higher doubt its higher than including 2 duskweave

and also duskweave just 8x better in aoe and m+

[livid fiber]

in my sim the crafted weapon on max ilvl did even less than bis as an offhand

[sullen dove]

enjoy the free massive ilvl

god give me strength if i dont get weapon out of vault next week

do i take mythic weapon over heroic bis in vault

[oblique trail]

just go kill stix

[sullen dove]

my minds telling me no but my body's telling me yes

o yea u right

go ahead and do that rq

[oblique trail]

For me at least with a HC punisher (which is essentially a normal weapon), myth wep + punisher and 2x thread is quite a bit better than myth wep + crafted wep

Didn't look at BiS tho

[sullen dove]

yea i think it also cant be knocked just the big gain from spawning 2 675 pieces into existence

[bitter palm]

bis + punisher surely chatting

[sullen dove]

prolly less of a difference if you actually had high ilvl embellish slot pieces

punisher can blow up

6k better equal ilvl on arms

[bitter palm]

huge

[sullen dove]

dot does 5mil damage in a 8 min fight

gg

[bitter palm]

more than rend

gg

[livid fiber]

Well, i know u hate me even more now, but i got hc punisher aswell. And according to the sim, it is weaker than nhc bis

at least as an offhand

[sullen dove]

[bitter palm]

ye ofc

[sullen dove]

yea should be

punisher sucks

just a little better than regular weapons

but bis is a giga

[livid fiber]

yeah, the stats just buff u in general. pretty big lined with cds

i think, i would only replace my nhc one for a hc one. And nothing else i assume

[sullen dove]

na

[oblique trail]

From a quick sim with my own gear, it's about a 20k~ dps diffie in favour of picking a myth wep from the vault and crafting a 675 offhand, than picking BiS and crafting a 675 main hand

Ofc kinda hard to evaluate the potential of the BiS in actual scenarios

Simply also just get a BiS in drop and then don't care at all, and craft 2x thread

[hardy bluff]

i got bis in raid and loot myth from vault

[smoky vale]

HI 10 PRIORY

[bitter palm]

HI 10 CINDERBREW

[smoky vale]

have you seen waht ive done in cinderbrews

[bitter palm]

no

[tidal beacon]

if we play slayer can we skip the bt crit stacking or are we just forced into it?

[bitter palm]

have u see what ive done

[bitter palm]

wdym crit stacking

rb increases the crit chance cause of bloodcraze

[tidal beacon]

yeah it doesnt feel good

[sullen dove]

yea I mean ur not crafting a myth offhand if you get a m weap in vault tho yea

just like how much more the myth vault weapon is better than heroic bis

[oblique trail]

It's a significant upgrade over using my 665 punisher in offhand

But it's not worth if I intend on playing a lot of arms

But I wont be playing arms until bandit/mugzee

[bitter palm]

yeah but is it an upgrade over same ilvl bis

[sullen dove]

which like there are a lot of weapons you could get and only one bis but also get bis from raid 4head

[bitter palm]

either way waaaaay too much thinkin

thinking

[bitter palm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1002609226205630575/1341549557791854632/cannyArrive-4x.gif

how

[sullen dove]

idk what zaza you on when you enter that dungeon

shit is not hard

Surely it’s the pugs

[bitter palm]

bro on that galaxy gas

[smoky vale]

i havent seen you put on a shield bub

[sullen dove]

My shield is 626

And u just got the gallywix shield

[bitter palm]

my shield is 610 ask @eternal sundial

[sullen dove]

and I’ve shielded

Just not 10s I don’t think

[bitter palm]

i cranked in that cinderbrew

[sullen dove]

or no I did 1 10 floodgate

[smoky vale]

cinderbrew is the most aids dungeon as tank

[bitter palm]

that is factual

i must say

[smoky vale]

i can never stand still

[bitter palm]

also for the entirety of firstp ull with lust

i didnt have avatar bound

or demolish

had to click in spellbook

[smoky vale]

xd

[bitter palm]

and didnt know where shield wall was

had to go through my action bars

still +2 the 8

tbf people signing up to 10s

are

not human atm

last week early 10s were good

perma 2 chesting shit

now i get people who cant press buttons

[smoky vale]

i was a terrorist last week

had to call in back up to tmie a 10 on my mage right before reset

[bitter palm]

mage

[smoky vale]

shoutout @shrewd steeple

[bitter palm]

...

[smoky vale]

big chuck

[bitter palm]

• aura

discord

adioajdadsadia[diojdfpqwjdqljd[pqdwqljdlqlsdfm';wekfmwf

[sullen dove]

Dragindeez gonna need a 10

[smoky vale]

we can arrange that

[sullen dove]

It’s a good day when dev is good

[smoky vale]

:beam:

[sullen dove]

Took too long to kill aug

hopefully they stay that way

[bitter palm]

now to remove it

[sullen dove]

Yes

[bitter palm]

completely gut it from the game

[smoky vale]

W

[sullen dove]

imagine how much ppl would whine if they did

[bitter palm]

make it a tank or something

[sullen dove]

“I’m an aug main wtf!!!”

[bitter palm]

fake

doesnt exist

[sullen dove]

me when it’s been out of less than 2 years

[bitter palm]

no such thing as aug main

[sullen dove]

me when survival hunter got complete shifted from whatever it was to full melee in legion

U think ppl got mad about dat

idk was too baby

[bitter palm]

didnt play back then

played a lil on felsong

was gapping everyone everywhere as arms

[sullen dove]

[bitter palm]

(all 40 players)

nah felsong actually had players

bro

artifact wb cleave then just obliterate the pack

peak gameplay

tactician procs cs ms mob obliterated

[undone flower]

On aug, I’m chocked that I didn’t see a single one of them, even the casuals in 2s don’t want to play that shit

[bitter palm]

ye i mean it just makes the key infinitely slower cause u dont have a 3rd dps

[undone flower]

Im the third dps (I do also close to dps with my crappy prot war)

[edgy oasis]

Was in a 12 key. Ele and ret pumping 15mil dps. Meanwhile thane is below tank at 5mill....sure its target damage and thane is sustained but fuck me. Took me till 2nd boss to catch up!

Nerf warriors...

[bitter palm]

thats just how fury operates

i always catch up

always same dps every pack

boss comes

i gap everyone

[smoky vale]

@bitter palm do you know how to use the cdoding part in wa

[bitter palm]

cdoding

what does that mean

[undone flower]

But honestly, I thought in low low keys, I would still see one

I thought support class *more popular among casuals

[bitter palm]

what does this mean

[bitter palm]

idk i think casuals just wanna do dam

[undone flower]

Dode yourself

[bitter palm]

ye thats just lua

basically english

[smoky vale]

how do i make it so the second row doesnt show up

if in resto

[undone flower]

You search a line with spec requirement and copy paste, add NOT I guess (copy how it is done) and add resto

[bitter palm]

idk context

what second row

i have to like zoom in

my eyes hurt

[undone flower]

You want part of the WA not show up as resto ?

[static rock]

Is dungeon slice any good rn for mythic+ sims?

[undone flower]

Because you can just use the sane person WA interface to blacklist resto (I think you can) if it’s all the WA

[bitter palm]

u can local spec = GetSpecialization(). debug that see what it returns as resto

[smoky vale]

ya

works now

[bitter palm]

then in the for loop do a check

bro i need to remake my ui but

man

cba

i lost all my wa's

[undone flower]

One day I will have the will to use elvui again

[smoky vale]

ui check

[bitter palm]

noobn o pots

[bitter palm]

hahahahahha

[bitter palm]

thats roughly what i want too

[undone flower]

My brain is not braining on that screen

[bitter palm]

no elvui just use suf or something

what are u using for unitframes and shit

[smoky vale]

bro atrocity only shows r3

cell

[bitter palm]

might steal tmy's was for warrior ngl

[smoky vale]

TEAH UMH,,MMM WHYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[bitter palm]

tea uhm why

@ebon junco hi

[smoky vale]

@ebon junco hi

[dry talon]

is it possible that i dont need sirens ring anymore https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5XGbt2GtrguvBnqP9brihC

[bitter palm]

yes

[flat river]

Ring is BiS

Unless u find super big ring

Mythic track

Sim it I'd say

[undone flower]

What is the use of sacbrood icons ? Just on top of base rotational spells?

[bitter palm]

sim something real

like st

[smoky vale]

broodtwister egg stacks

[undone flower]

Oh you still have it, still okay for you ?

[dry talon]

patchwerk?

[smoky vale]

i want to get rid of it on my mage

[bitter palm]

yes

[smoky vale]

i stopped on my warrior

[bitter palm]

1 target 5 minutes

[bitter palm]

explode

pleas

[hardy cargo]

timwalking paying off for the first time in existence I think

[smoky vale]

`what

[ebon junco]

pig

[bitter palm]

see what i mean

tmy toxic

[cobalt scroll]

Hi guys! Any Info on using Trinket or BIS first on Pull?

[bitter palm]

something happened

[fluid kite]

Are you guys playing the single target slayer build on Cauldron of Carnage or the two target Thane?

[bitter palm]

slayer with ww

[coarse nest]

Macro both to reck and put the trinket first

Bis will get used on the next reck
(Depends witch on use I suppose)*

[fluid kite]

So the Raid MT build basically?

[bitter palm]

idk whats the raid mt build tbh

[fluid kite]

Any recommended positioning during the cleave phase?

[lapis shadow]

is it possible to cast sequence ravager and then roar?

[bitter palm]

between them

and dodge

[lapis shadow]

Macro would be smth like

Reck + Avatar -> Ravagar -> Roar

i dont mind clicking same button twice

[bitter palm]

just rava reck ava ww roar ramp

[fluid kite]

I see. Last time there was a lot going on where I was standing, I will try to figure it out. Cheers

[bitter palm]

or tc if thane same thing

[lapis shadow]

In one macro?

[bitter palm]

why macro it

you would need a macro wizard for those macros

need a cast sequence i think

its just effort

ig u can macro reck and ava

[cobalt scroll]

That's waht I did, thanks so much for confirminmg!

[raw bone]

does the 4p affect to our rotation in any form?

or is it just "neat, this BT/RB did more damage"

[summer quail]

no. pretend it isnt there

[raw bone]

alright ty

[bitter palm]

good sir

[tidal kindle]

Wth is this

[smoky vale]

base ui with bars shruck to smallest atroctiy wa cell frames

[sullen dove]

Why is it not centered

[smoky vale]

i excluded the chat box

[quiet breach]

do u guys use a mouse over macro for intervene?

[vague fern]

very quick one.. with 4p, does the rotation change at all in fury + arms? or does it change slightly?

or is it still Rampage > RB > BT

[fading sky]

This isnt the rotation now

[whole yacht]

We don't do this anymore

[smoky vale]

i think wowhead might have a better answer for you

[vague fern]

ahh okay

[rotund zenith]

Sims for some reason HATES new tier for me and refuses to swap to it, even 4 set, if it happens to break old tier. Anyone having a similar issue? Isn't new tier supposed to be much better?

[coarse nest]

If you have 4 pieces of new tier surely that sims better than 4 pieces of old tier

Unless it’s like lfr pieces maybe?

[rotund zenith]

Even tried "creating" the pieces via item search but it still choses old tier for some reason.

[whole yacht]

Sim old tier. Get number
Remove old tier from sim equation. Sim new tier. Compare number

[heavy dock]

well i like frenzied enrage more ngl lol

[rotund zenith]

2+2 still sims lower than old 4p, with vast ilvl increases, I'll check with 4p vs 4p after raid I guess

[dense elbow]

As Slayer needs a boost in M+, but not Thane. Ya think they going the Bladestorm route or the Reap?

[heavy dock]

2+2 simmed higher for me than old 4p

but could be cuz i had some 626 pieces

and the new 2p were hero

[fading sky]

Cant be worse..

[young swan]

dont think they'll do either

[fading sky]

So sim it properøy

[frank dawn]

Slayer strength in raid will keep it from being buffed imo. Even with our dog shit set bonus

[young swan]

bladestorm more likely

[frank dawn]

But maybe since Slayer arms ignores bladestorm they’ll buff it lol

[finite spruce]

Seeing unholy dks doing 15m+ on priory/cinderbrew first pulls is feels bad fomo

[frank dawn]

There are so many largeish pulls this season

Def feels bad as fury

[twilit pelican]

s

[sharp sentinel]

Both in sims and in action my 2+2 outperformed old 4 set by quite a margin, went from 6/6 myth to hero track, but might just have been lucky with secondaries, even though I would be amazed they did the major difference.

[ionic bone]

how reliable is 5 patchwork for M+ ?

should I not use Lock"n"Stalk

[sharp sentinel]

Loads of crits in ape, so I believe that sim

Aoe lul

[rotund zenith]

I'll check back and redo it later, but I swear I've done it like 10 times and old set still shows as better. I've just ignored it for now and equipped new set

[ionic bone]

our 4 set is actually crazy bad

[sullen dove]

Pace gotta be better than cocknstalk

[ionic bone]

feels like monkeys are doing tier bonuses

[frank dawn]

even if somewhat plain, most other classes bonuses are at least reasonably strong

idk why it's so hard to make fury have at least a strong bonus

[finite spruce]

Reminds me of the good old days popping odyns fury and roar before the tree boss of Algathir academy man. Shitting on everybody haha

We could be doing that in like half the dungeons this season ripppp

[thin cliff]

even if not terribly strong, at least cool/interesting

[sharp sentinel]

Warrior devs is all unga no bunga

[ionic bone]

like actually insane

[modest condor]

it's good for looking at general aoe damage but for m+ you need both st and aoe so it's always a good idea to apply some critical thinking

[ionic bone]

cockstalk does pretty nice ST as well tho

[modest condor]

they could literally just double both the 2set and 4set bonusses and it would still be one of the weaker tiersets

[sharp sentinel]

Anyone else got best-in-slots and accidentally ended up in a fight with an intellect weapon too?

[modest condor]

but they've already tuned the base spec around having a garbage tierset

so then they would have to compensate nerf

[ionic bone]

But I keep forgetting to swap it between ST and AoE, so it's good ridance

[tidal kindle]

I'm okay w/ strong base and weak tier

Maybe unpopular opinion

I'd rather have interesting tier than strong tier

[ionic bone]

it's just not fair

[modest condor]

too bad we have neither 🙃

[tidal kindle]

Sadly we do not have interesting tier either

[sharp sentinel]

Garms is cooking

[ionic bone]

everyone has 8-18% bonus damage, we got 3%

[frank dawn]

yeah idk, it's also frustrating that I feel like Fury is falling fast down the M+ ladder too. So the "being strong" part kind of only applies to raids

[ionic bone]

at some point we might just swap heroic tier for max ilvl off pieces lol

[frank dawn]

M+ is a meme, etc, whatever

but still

[ionic bone]

people spend way more time in m+ than raid tho

[frank dawn]

agreed

[finite spruce]

Is arms even that much better in large pulls for M+? I’ve never played it cuz it always looked lame

[sharp sentinel]

Is arms so much better in m+ it would be decent to go arms with fury stats in m+?

[ionic bone]

it's crazy good if u can pull it off

[tidal kindle]

Arms big strong

[frank dawn]

arms will absolutely giga blast fury on big pulls if it has cooldowns

[tidal kindle]

It's not dk/mage/boomie/devoker/other wizard here levels busted

It's like just under

[ionic bone]

i mean, if u can time your cleaves properly, which is frustrating af to manage

you can be just right up with them

[frank dawn]

Odyn's fury is not a bad part to this answer imo

but for whatever reason they left the ability fully nuked and awful

[ionic bone]

i miss s1 fury already

[finite spruce]

+1

[modest condor]

than fury? yes and it's not even close

but there are still better specs than arms

[ionic bone]

i like spamming 10s, but as a fury watching everyone pump 10-15-20 mil

and i sit with 8

is just ..

[dire vigil]

Thane Fury smacks Col arms on boss damage tho, people say it doesn’t matter until you wipe at 10% on a boss and brick the key.

[ionic bone]

that's only at very high key levels

talking about 10s

not even 12s

[dire vigil]

10s, meh who cares

10s are insanely easy this season

[finite spruce]

Eh that’s cool and all but I dont know I just have more fun turbo blasting large packs than than doin a couple mill more dps than others on a boss

[frank dawn]

It's kind of cool to slap bosses, I enjoy it for sure

but it only goes so far lol

[dire vigil]

I’ve been enjoying the fat bloodthirst crits

In execute phase

[finite spruce]

Couple mil more on a boss vs close to 10 mil less on a juiced pull kinda uneven

[quiet breach]

do you have to have a ranged dps for priory at high keys because of the adds on the last boss? did a priory with all melee and we got fucked by the last boss so hard when the adds spawned

[whole yacht]

No. Have everyone initially stack at range. Then after adds spawn in and start their sprint. You can fuck boss

[quiet breach]

I have no idea what u mean. stack at range as a melee? so we aren't dpsing?

[whole yacht]

It takes very little time

You lose MAYBE 3-5 seconds of dps uptime

[frank dawn]

what does stacking at range do for the spawns? won't they still hit the boss/melee if you charge back in?

Haven't spent much time in Priory yet this season

[chilly fractal]

They gotta get thru the tank

[frank dawn]

oh he meant to wait until they completely despawn/die

[chilly fractal]

Or at least take a second for the tank to get threat

[warm crag]

they dont have an aggro table

they just hit whomever

the real strat is to find a video and see how they do it since theres some nuance on it

you can make it so only one side spawns adds by everyone going up the same side and not crossing over to the other side

[frank dawn]

this is what I thought lol

[warm crag]

then you just cc chain them while theyre on the stairs

[chilly fractal]

I only did that dungeon like twice… I just stood away for a second didn’t know they didn’t have a table

[summer quail]

if you play arms you can just pop dbts and chill

[quiet breach]

what's dbts (I have only played fury)

[quiet breach]

I still don't understand, how does us stacking at range make the adds die, does the tank just solo the adds?

with healer

[static rock]

any way to check the damage % increases each class gets for tier sets?

[earnest canyon]

this mugzee looks insane when he goes to p2 at 40%

[summer quail]

die by the sword. arms defensive, makes you parry all melee attacks

[fickle cedar]

frenzied enrage sims better as thane m+ for me rn, imma try it

[quiet breach]

do they have a dps warrior and is he arms?

[quiet breach]

so can arms warriors just run right at them and slaughter them?

[fading sky]

Fpr 6 seconds

[flat river]

do you guys use MT or ST build on one-armed bandit

[woeful jasper]

hey guys, sorry to interrupt, just leveled my warrior, and plan to main it alot, i see quite a split in terms of spec, which one is more sustainable to play currently, are there any pros and cons to playing arms or fury at low to high keys?

[summer quail]

i used multitarget. honestly don't think it matters alot

[sullen dove]

fury easier to play generally but arms not that much harder, they perform about the same in raid but fury alot better at cleaving adds for some of the fights, in m+ arms more aoe but fury a lil more single targetty

[quiet geyser]

Heroic dies so fast already ST prob better

Also depends if ur guild drops the add sequence or not

[flat river]

what about mugzee

[coarse nest]

It’s very cheap to pick up WW talents

So prob worth if the adds live at all

[quiet geyser]

Hell no

Mugzee heroic also run pure ST

Theres next to no AoE in that fight at all, except the odd 1 add around the boss that just gets blown up anyways

[coarse nest]

Very true ye

I haven’t even played fury on that fight yet so best not listen to me yappin

[iron portal]

problem with that is , you wont sell people on boss damage

If you are doing only 1/3 or 2/3 of damage of other specs in game

[clever path]

Play either one you want, arms and fury are close together across the board as far as I’ve seen. Just play both figure out the one you do well and have fun playing with

[buoyant shard]

So getting into my warrior, but when do i kill old 4 set as fury ?

[clever path]

Immediately from everything I’ve seen

Replace with new 2 set and 4 set as soon as you get them

But that’s going off everything I’ve seen in guides and numbers

[frank dawn]

upgrading the new 2 set is almost never the wrong choice based on anything I've simmed, it can be a little more questionable with the new 4pc tho

just have to sim yourself and see

[patent snow]

remember, only scrubs catalyze champ track gear

get 2K get 2 hero pieces, catalyze 2 set bonus

[dire vigil]

Wtvr. Once I’m at 12s and above I’ll probably be listing my own key a lot

[iron portal]

I had to do that. Got flamed at my own key when Tank just died in Rookery second pull

But timed 12 Workshop, damage there is pretty good for warrior

[dire vigil]

Lmao like “Do dam when?”

Workshop, TOP are great fury dungeons

[quaint forge]

lmao zero dps warriors on oab mythic

[coarse nest]

Yeah good thing they nerfed our execute

Oh fury chat Kek

[quaint forge]

😄

[dire vigil]

We’re seeing play on Mugzee though

Until they bring in a REAL execute spec in our place

[coarse nest]

For now sure

Exactly

[dire vigil]

Arms tier was exaggerated af

Cuz Gallywix is 10000% a fury fight

[spare steppe]

every fight is a fury fight if you want it to be

[coarse nest]

Likewise arms

[quaint forge]

i had so much fomo gearing for fury but glad i stuck with it

[coarse nest]

Idk maybe I need to sit in the target dummy more but this season fury feels so incredibly bad with all the conditions you’re supposed to consider

Arms flows so well for my brain

I also play arms the most though so theirs that

[dire vigil]

It’s not though because fury is stomping arms in non-execute ST and arms isn’t even noticeably that ahead in execute sims

[quaint forge]

yeah we're opposite

[dire vigil]

Reck bladestorm add spawns with 5 frenzy stacks is just too good

“Sorry RL, can’t hard swap, haste go BRRR”

[spare steppe]

arms feels like i mash a button, realize its on cd, and figure out whats next most important. fury has a weird rhythm to it

but both are fun

[silent burrow]

Is there new kaching WA for when to use SD?

[dire vigil]

Yeah I think it’s part of the Luxthos warrior WA

I updated mine and it started showing the BT crit % and other nice tracking buffs

[quaint forge]

https://wago.io/r8u4tHLRQ

[silent burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/denzel-training-day-gif-16743259178450786472

Thanks fellas

[coarse nest]

Cone is the best

🐐

[dire vigil]

Maybe I have that WA as well, idk

I thought it was Lux but maybe I have that

[quaint forge]

Shoutout Critcake's H Gallywix vid. He linked it in there.

Freakin monks stealing our thunder man

Warriors were good in classic so we can't be good anymore

[unreal onyx]

crafting weap costs 60 crests right?=

[coarse nest]

Ye

60

[unreal onyx]

nice

I have 115 so I can spend 55

[frank dawn]

Just buy your crest so you don’t mess up =p

[summer quail]

i don't think about conditionals at all. weakaura make sound when i should press exe, weakaura make sound when i should press bt

bingchilling

[sullen dove]

Require bt noise

and why does execute noise not work for arms

should be exact same thing

just a diff juggernaut

[rotund ginkgo]

honestly

not bad prog

we legit

full cleared nm+hc+1st boss

in 3hours

as a 2day guild thats pog

+13 min break

[sullen dove]

explode

[rotund ginkgo]

i got

meh loot

[sullen dove]

can’t even clear trash in that amount of time twice stop the cap

[rotund ginkgo]

we legit

only wiped once

and it was only on vexie

mythic

+we didnt skip trash

current situation

https://tenor.com/view/sadge-cliff-sad-saaadge-gif-18209034

[dire vigil]

I still don’t know whether I’m crafting weapon or double dusk next week.. I got myth track weapon in vault but having 678+675 weapon is huge

[rotund ginkgo]

just see what sims the highest

[dire vigil]

Yeah. I have hero track poleaxe which is a pretty solid offhand for now

Ilvl gains > crafting 2 pieces though lol

[rotund ginkgo]

i have

636

🙂

[sullen dove]

Should get bis eventually wouldn’t worry bout weap craft

[rotund ginkgo]

i mean yh ur guaranteed BIS 11.1.5

regardless

[sullen dove]

2 big 675 duskweave is Juice

[rotund ginkgo]

true + u can fix bad slots like that

[dire vigil]

Ngl I forgot about that

Hmmmm

[rotund ginkgo]

if i could craft rn id do 2 dusk

[dire vigil]

Yeah 675 wrists and cape immediately would be great

[rotund ginkgo]

change my cloak+wrist

[stone merlin]

New to Warrior but I love how mindless/easy fury Warrior is for pve

[earnest canyon]

same....im glad I picked it back up

[stone merlin]

It’s nice. Makes world content/questing so much less annoying

[earnest canyon]

what were u playing before?

[young swan]

@bitter palm i integrated ur execute WA into revvez ui thank u for your service soldier

[red berry]

i havent upgraded my weapons to 665 because thats free if you craft a 675 weapon

but i do have 2 658s

i still dont have 4piece either but 2piece 639 is outsimming two 655 pieces rn

[stone merlin]

Ret pally. Was great in Dragonflight but absolutely blows this expansion except for one 30sec cooldown ability

[earnest canyon]

yeah i got bored of my hunter and picked ret up.....didnt like it, and I hate that templar thing

everything was "divine toll" "divine sparkles" "divine blade" "divine mc donalds combo meal"

[bitter palm]

np goat execute wa into goat ui

makes sense

[rotund ginkgo]

officer just told me

he thought i had a heroic wep

so when he gave me one, he thought i was 2hc track weps

and when gally hc dropped

other warr just won roll

[stone merlin]

Lmao fr though

[rotund ginkgo]

he didnt know i have a 636

big sadge

understandable and nothing to do about it

but sadge

i still enjoy the guild and i can get the wep regardless next patch anyways

so im not devastated

https://tenor.com/view/positive-vibes-only-good-vibes-good-atmosphere-good-feelings-no-negativity-gif-15038029

[earnest canyon]

FINALLY GOT ANOTHER 2H!!
............
............
its warbound..........
its an agility polearm.......

can delves even drop 2handers?

[crude ridge]

yes

[fickle cedar]

your loot spec is arms right ? if so then unlucky

[jade tiger]

does it matter what spell i use the 4pc proc on?

or is it random which i get

[onyx lance]

quick question for anyone to answer, Is arms just better than fury in everyway? I enjoy and am more comfortable on fury but I was wondering if arms was worth learning

[jade tiger]

no fury does more st (especially in m+) and arms is ahead on high target counts afaik

[vernal laurel]

Bois, I am currently simming, and our 4-set is just simming worse than using 2-piece + 2-piece from this and last season

[thick fossil]

@sudden tusk Preach on my man, preach on.

[fickle cedar]

they're both pretty good in raid and arms is a bit ahead in m+

[onyx lance]

cool ty ❤️

[thick fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/pour-drink-pouring-alcohol-respect-gif-5359107

[vernal laurel]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/xjeA2bFcvMf7C6CiFAR4qu < Like, anyone else experiencing the same? Sad times if our 4-set is just worse than 2-piece + 2-piece

[crude ridge]

Gems

[manic pelican]

Anyone know of any Spell Reflect interactions on Gallywix?

[vernal laurel]

I have almost all gems selected in the sim yes

[crude ridge]

Oh you're simming on dungeon slice

last I remember dungeon slice sims poorly or doesn't sim right

[thick fossil]

Anyone else finding Fury M+ rotation prio a little funky?

[whole yacht]

not really no

[thick fossil]

At times I find I'm getting Ramp, 1 RB, back to Ramp, rinse and repeat.

Clap on 4-5th global

[vernal laurel]

Ah ok, what should I sim instead then? Mainly care about M+ performance

[crude ridge]

Hectic Add cleave is what I use for AoE simming

[vernal laurel]

Ok cool, I'll use that instead then, ty

[stone merlin]

I’m a noob so excuse this dumb question but what’s the biggest differences between fury warrior and frost DK

[crude ridge]

Here is your ST gain https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1XeLVjYycE8pum7qnsrdcH

[earnest canyon]

yes

all i get from delves is cloaks and pants

no trinkets

ive been doing 6+ a week

full normal clear

lfr

[crude ridge]

Mind you I did not change your talents for ST

[earnest canyon]

about 10 m+

[vernal laurel]

Ey nice thanks! Guess its not that significant of an improvement with 4-set, but it is still better at least

[crude ridge]

yeah our tier is a very low gain but it is better

[vernal laurel]

As long as we dont have to wear last seasons gear I am glad, but yeah we dont have the best tier set gain unfort