#fury

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coarse nest
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I’m crafting wep as an arms player unless I get a myth wep in the next two vaults

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Really hoping for a myth wep tbh better in the long run

quiet breach
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so basically you should always craft the wep no matter what if you are committed to fury?

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asap?

last sparrow
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unless you somehow get your bis weapons on mythic by then

coarse nest
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Didn’t arch cover this topic saying that myth wep + craft offhand is about equal to myth wep + heroic best in slots

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Idr the exact convo

heavy dock
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hm can u hc leap over the rik reverb waves like in ansurek?

coarse nest
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But something like that

coarse nest
torpid elbow
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so i just bought the token to exchange it for 250k gold once i buy it how long does it take or where should it go to?

winter shoal
coarse nest
winter shoal
torpid elbow
heavy dock
winter shoal
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Think that's what you're referring to

quasi tree
winter shoal
coarse nest
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So basically craft a weapon

winter shoal
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Yaz I was just gassing up your df s2 bt weakaura earlier today

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Shit is goated

warm crag
quasi tree
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peepohide It's all in your head, I'm not here

olive wraith
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KACHING

winter shoal
bitter palm
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hoooly

winter shoal
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Based on Yaz's work

bitter palm
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gear

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is insane

winter shoal
bitter palm
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dont look weapons

coarse nest
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Revvez absolutely juiced

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Hollyyy

bitter palm
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this gear

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is diabolical

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jastor diamond

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bis + capital punisher

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missing kezan ig

coarse nest
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That man cranking

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No doubt about it

tidal kindle
quasi tree
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No U

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I'm not playing atm, I haven't played in a long time, mostly just an ARPG gamer nowadays

eternal sundial
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batman type shit

vivid egret
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with 2+2 should we be using bt 1st to get bloody rampage to buff every rampage

spare steppe
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does fury struggle comparatively in massive aoe pulls? I was getting stomped by a sin rogue in a 8 priory with big pulls (>8 mobs).

latent trail
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what kind of dps should i be pulling at 634 ilvl?

summer quail
spare steppe
winter shoal
young swan
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how big is a heap

celest sierra
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why does my 636 claymore sim better then most weps

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whend o i replace it

eternal sundial
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embel

celest sierra
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so do i keep claymore forever?

young swan
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replaced my embelly weapon on saturday

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truly some dark times we live in

young swan
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you keep it until you have good enough items that it overtakes the embellishment effects

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for me it was a 655 socketed belt and a normal capital punisher

quasi tree
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Xan peepohide

young swan
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i saw u streaming flyff yesterday

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and the day bef9re

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i.havent seen that game in actually almost 20 years

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maybe more like 15

quasi tree
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yep It's some private server, they make custom dungeons and stuff for it

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Something different

young swan
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holy

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thats giga

somber elk
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Guys does Antoine have a weakaura that Shows us when to bt?

young swan
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@winter shoal link the thingy

next ruin
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Didn't expect this here

quasi tree
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Also surprised you're even old enough to know what that game is

next ruin
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Any dragon saga players in here?

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Dragonica for eu's

runic cypress
young swan
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apparently it was touted as a wow killer back in the day

quasi tree
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What MMO isn't

young swan
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real

quasi tree
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The only WoW killer is WoW: Shadowlands

runic cypress
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Flyff was touted as a wow killer?

young swan
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idk i was like 10

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vaguely remember my cousin saying it was a wow killer

runic cypress
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Your cousin, was he like held back a few grades?

next ruin
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It was huge in 2005-2008

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Maybe not aion size huge

runic cypress
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I don't think Flyff was even Ragnarök online size huge tbh

summer quail
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@quasi tree welcome back!

next ruin
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But most new mmos had everyone trying them out in their first months, esp since back in those days they didn't open in every country at the same time

quasi tree
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peepohide I'm not here, it's an illusion.

next ruin
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Flyff was gpotato's biggest game I think

summer quail
runic cypress
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I was really excited for Warhammer online

modest condor
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everything was a wowkiller in the 2000s

eternal sundial
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Yazuka return

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Incredible Fortune

quasi tree
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Silm, Phil

next ruin
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Aion, rift, terra online, Warhammer online, city of heroes
The wow killerzz..

eternal sundial
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I recall there was something about the hand wasnt there

next ruin
quasi tree
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I totally forgot my hand was broken for like half a year and I was like sofa lord

quasi tree
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I've been playing some ARPGs here and there

runic cypress
quasi tree
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Played TLI for a couple of months this year, got rank 10 in EU then quit

eternal sundial
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Sounds good

eternal sundial
next ruin
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Does anyone remember Lost Saga?

earnest canyon
quiet breach
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can u do 2 normal tier and 2 heroic tier and get 4pc?

somber elk
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still working?

heavy nacelle
quiet breach
bitter palm
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yes

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as long as its a tier piece

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it will work

coarse nest
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Make sure you get the hidden bonus 2pc on belt/boots

past tulip
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What are most have WA for fury warriors?

chilly fractal
elder epoch
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anyone got that SD condition weakaura?

winter shoal
winter shoal
elder epoch
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legend

past tulip
next ruin
next ruin
winter shoal
earnest canyon
smoky vale
frank void
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We dont skip empowered thunderclap even on single target in keys right?

violet condor
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how do you get a mechano core amplifier?

azure holly
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anyone here used the bee trinket? wtf do I do? 😂

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do you just use it and accept you'll go behind boss and need to turn around etc?

oblique trail
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You don't use it, that's what

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It's just a really garbage trinket

azure holly
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I wonder how much you lose by ignoring the on-use?

earnest canyon
clever path
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ive been annoying my raid that we should all get the bee trinket and use it on cd together on bosses for a lols run later this season

oblique trail
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If you don't use it, it's literally just strength

azure holly
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the trinket was +30k over my old one, so it feels like the passive str alone should match the old trinket

oblique trail
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Which is okay but just use any other trinket at htat point

azure holly
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is it possible to sim without using the on-use without really advanced APL stuff 🤔

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fuck man I wanna find an excuse to use the higher ilvl item 😆

oblique trail
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Likely is yes but I don't know the method

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If anything, if you have no other decent option at all, then just use it on bosses

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Would not bother using it in AoE

azure holly
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at least having this garbage increases my chances of Kezan copium

earnest canyon
fading sky
fair thistle
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how much dps overall should a fury do in a key in average ?

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so i can compare

oblique trail
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yes

azure holly
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depends entirely on what key and many other factors

oblique trail
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There is no number to give you

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Way too many variables

fair thistle
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is slayer really that weaker than MT then ?

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was wondering

oblique trail
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But assuming you've kept up with gearing, then 2+ mill is easily attainable

fair thistle
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i'm 634 with a 619 weapon

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and can't reach 2 mil

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idk if i'm doing smth wrong

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wasn't that complicated back in SL haha

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i'm more around 1.8/1.9

oblique trail
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Certainly better than the average person would do with similar gear, from personal experience playing with pug warriors

elder epoch
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can you reflect ice bolt from mugzee?

oblique trail
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But I would just care more about actually making sure you time keys, and if you wonder if you're playing well then look at other peoples PoV of playing Fury

fair thistle
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dk, i was pretty good back in SL, now i feel like i'm not geared enough to have a clear sight of what i should do better

clever path
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what priority is thunder blast over bt and rb?

fair thistle
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in single target or multi target ?

clever path
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st

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multi i assume u jsut let them rip

fair thistle
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would say bt but not sure

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didn't play MT enough

calm spindle
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does charging right as goon walls break on mugzee fuck up nearby walls

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as in, mid-air

summer quail
fair thistle
winter shoal
harsh barn
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If best stats for fury are haste and mastery, do I want to make sure all my pieces have that?

celest sierra
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so for this tier

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we not recrafting the claymore

earnest canyon
dense elbow
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might be time to clean up my WA garms

earnest canyon
amber spire
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is there anything anyone can see at a quick glance that my friend might be missing in regards to doing more damage with fury? more casts of a certain spell? I don't play fury so can't offer much help to him myself but curious if theres some glaringly obvious things they could be doing

dense elbow
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Just tell your friend to try #1347646810457636974 section, also, your friend probably should personally ask for advice. Or it is very likely a waste of our time, if that effort minimum aint met.

hollow leaf
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why is it that I go reck > charge + ava, sometimes I get 80 rage, and sometimes I get 79

edgy widget
azure holly
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ye

fading sky
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Simming like u forget # me when i hsve 2 on use

edgy widget
hollow leaf
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Yeah it is consistently either 80 or 79

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Slightly annoying but not the world

edgy widget
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open up the full sim report, expand the Profile section all the way at the bottom, copy the entire APL section (everything that looks like actions. located in between the character information/talents and the gear section)

Copy/paste that into the Custom APL and SimC Options -> "Fury Warrior" section of a new sim

Except you want to make sure to delete all the lines with "trinkets" (should be one line near the top actions+=/call_action_list,name=trinkets and a whole section at the bottom)

grizzled shard
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do we send goblin gavel on CD after the first opener CD's or should we hold it to line up properly?

azure holly
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damn didn't think you knew how to do it, I'll try it thanks

edgy widget
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ofc I know how to do it, I wrote half of it KEKWlaughslow

azure holly
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ah I forgot

chilly belfry
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My sim says that signet of the priory is a 15k dps increase over my mythic transmitter trinket. with the 2 min cd of this trinket is this sim a bait. or should i actually run it? and do I want to hold my avatar for 2 minutes for the trinket?

eternal sundial
edgy widget
edgy widget
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My Heroic Mark is better than M Transmitter now lol

fickle bluff
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chatting i didnt know they were renaming titans grip

chilly belfry
edgy widget
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depends on the length of the fight, if you're only getting 2 uses, delay as appropriate

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if you're going for raw throughput, just macro it to Recklessness

fading sky
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Also am fury cds are everywhere so?

edgy widget
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p much why I just keep shit macro'd to Reck, though lining up with Avatar when you can is still ideal

fading sky
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Doubt u hold? Dont u just send

edgy widget
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I have Priory + Slots, both macro'd to Reck so it just rotates and I always have one buff or the other

  • Priory + Avatar on opener
  • Slots when Reck comes back up ~1m in
  • Priory + Reck again ~2m in
  • Slots + Avatar when it comes back ~3m in
    and so on
eternal sundial
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its only ever worth thinking abt if ur on a 1.5 from last tier or whatever

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and ur at the 4:30 or 6 min usage

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where trinket and bis can both be up

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from my exp

quaint stag
grizzled shard
fair thistle
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is it trolling to play slayer in m+ high keys ?

open prairie
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are we even a 1.5min spec anymore

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with new builds

fair thistle
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bc from what i've saw, MT does so much more damage

edgy widget
open prairie
true sequoia
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Off topic but can anyone help, I'm doing dragon soul, and on spine everytime I get the amalgamation to explode it says not close enough to plate, I'm literally as close as I can get to it....

fair thistle
open prairie
eternal sundial
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whatever sims best o7

quasi tree
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peepohide Archi still blasting after all this time

edgy widget
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blasting might be overselling it a bit

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more like nerf gunning

quasi tree
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As long as you're still having fun that's all that matters

frank dawn
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hold up, we're supposed to have fun in this game?

quasi tree
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I just meant in general peepohide

oak garden
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does the Reflect on Mordretha still work in TOP?

cedar tusk
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Question: in m+ i often see hunters/paladins/mages easily burst 5-7M+ on large AoE packs. i'm not entirely sure what i'm doing wrong, i dont really see to get above 3-4M? Fairly consistant on boss damage towards 1.4M but confused about the AoE portion. Note: only 635 iLvl but not sure if i'm doing something wrong or there is a limit i'm hitting somewhere?

oak garden
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i burst for like 6-8m

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as fury

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most keys i have 3-4m overall

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not in Top

cedar tusk
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But at what itemlevel?

frank dawn
oak garden
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650

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2 hc weapons and hc bis trinkets from m+

cedar tusk
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yeah, keep in mind, i have 635 =]

oak garden
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yeah then this is ok

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keep in mind your high dmg ab. is on 5 targets capped

cedar tusk
somber elk
oak garden
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3-4

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i had 3,7 i think on priory

frank dawn
cedar tusk
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Thank you, i was wondering what i'm doing wrong :(

frank dawn
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Fury still very solid overall, but when it comes to big burst our target cap hurts

oak garden
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yeah my guild go for 2 uncapped and me as fury for prio

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thats pretty solid

cedar tusk
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so hunt/pala/mage are having less issues with uncapped?

oak garden
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yep

cedar tusk
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hmmm that explains a lot

oak garden
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ele

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arms

cedar tusk
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Arms too? oh

oak garden
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you can ez clapp 10-17m depending on the pull as arms

cedar tusk
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maybe should look at that then for m+

frank dawn
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arms has significantly less boss damage than fury tho in that case

oak garden
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i have no idea on arms and i did 15m on the meadery first pull

frank dawn
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it's always a trade off

oak garden
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thats why we do 2 uncapped with solid boss dmg and me as fury for boss dmg and prio

cedar tusk
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yeah makes sense

oak garden
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i have full bis slots expect of my finger and neck then i have last season 4p

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so i guess i climb more

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but you play MT on m+ right?

cedar tusk
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Aye

oak garden
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i dont give af about BT tbh. i just spam Rampage with the normal prio list

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and have my TB procs from ravager

chilly fractal
oak garden
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most rel. its more like 3-3,5m above 3,5 is nearly never the case

cedar tusk
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yeah thats what i'm like at with large packs 2.5-3 sometimes higher depending on procs but it's a crapshoot.

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so ok that feels ok then

oak garden
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thats solid for 635

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you mean overall in the dungeon or just pack burst?

cedar tusk
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just pack burst

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overall below 2m :(

oak garden
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Motherload i had on a 10++ 2,78m overall (sadly i diead on 2 big packs mid burst so it should be higher)

ionic bone
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Why isn't crit a bigger prio for our stats?

cedar tusk
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isn't that more arms? not fury?

oak garden
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i played fury

cedar tusk
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i mean crit sorry

oak garden
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crit is 3 prio for fury

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mastery to a point then haste

cedar tusk
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what is that point actually 🤔

ionic bone
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Just wondering why crit isnt as nearly as good as haste

oak garden
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maybe the dropped gear has this stats

ionic bone
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Like ret or survival, they stack mostly crit/mastery

oak garden
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the bis weapon in m+ is out of this Darflame dungeon

ionic bone
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Wonder why fury isn't the same

oak garden
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high mastery low haste

cedar tusk
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Wait, you said 3rd stat, but Archimtiros stat priority thingy on wowhead states it's the 5th (For Fury that is).

junior gale
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Let the robot do the thinking for you about stats

cedar tusk
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(Oh i do, dont worry :P)

ionic bone
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Feels so bad having 15% crit..

junior gale
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Stat prios are for the plebs that don't sim

edgy widget
oak garden
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yeah nvm it shifted

edgy widget
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Whereas Arms gets more rage, more crit dam, etc

ionic bone
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That's just bad design then, as a class fantasy, fury warriors should be all about crit

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And definitely not being 5 target cap 🤣

junior gale
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Idk what class fantasy has to do with Crit

ionic bone
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Why would a furious strike hit like a noodle, it should be a crit obviously

modern elm
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with 4 set, what its the prio ?

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im so confused

open prairie
edgy widget
open prairie
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if anything haste makes sense

median marsh
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can you guys recommend a WA pack for the raid?
there are couple of common options but i don't remember those and i want to get something that is been used already and is fine for many ppl so it will probably will be good for me also?

open prairie
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UI is entirely personal preference

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Some people prefer progress bar wa, some prefer icons

tardy lark
restive peak
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Well, if you’re in a guild it’s not, you should use the one that aligns with everyone. But otherwise yeah

open prairie
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Boss weakauras

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which im still of the opinion blizz needs to kill off wa that play bosses for you

quasi tree
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peepohide Aagaard is still here too

edgy widget
potent thicket
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jesus

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i wonder why i didn't start then

open prairie
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am i tripping or does northern sky’s raid wa have no icons for boss mechanics

wanton mirage
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Torq Big red button good?

winter shoal
median marsh
# winter shoal Causese is goated

i try to import him but nothing showed up, i think the load tab had some options i needed to set but i have no idea how to do it, can i DM for more help?

quasi tree
tardy lark
sly bobcat
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We don’t play around gushing wound right? Just bloodthirst crit % which inadvertently triggers gushing wound

tardy lark
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hit lvl 60 on my vanilla rogue listening to boten anna

sly bobcat
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Aka I shouldn’t be trying to get GW uptime max

south kayak
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Just got 99 on stix hc

winter shoal
clever belfry
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i think SL bonked it

crude flicker
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If fury do damage, why sent to decline corner

junior gale
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Because that's how M+ works no matter what dps spec you play

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Get high IO and high ilvl or go tank or heal

crude flicker
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I’m just memeing, def a kick in the nuts riding the decline train but the groups who take me in get the 5 star buffet of damage

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We all eatin

mighty apex
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fury noob here, why would my rampage be doing less damage overall than rampaging blow in a boss fight?

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is the right/

crude flicker
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Incorrect, whats your casts? RB should be used to build rage to spend rampage which should be your main goal of dumping

quasi tree
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Just find a group to run with peepohide M+ is more fun with the lads at 3AM anyway

mighty apex
iron portal
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beautiful

potent thicket
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DAMN

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thats a flex

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on mythic? before the world first guilds?

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wait what guild ar ya

median marsh
devout totem
iron portal
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I thought the name would intrigue more

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Since that is what I was reffering to

calm island
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meat cleaver 8 target 😡

iron portal
potent thicket
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o

acoustic coyote
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how come the damage distribution among the top parses are so different? like rank 1 for example is at 18% bloodthirst and rank 2 at like 11%... at this point I don't even know what to press.

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just an example, but the differences are huge

solemn hearth
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can you spell reflect mugzee ice shard?

trail locust
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can u spellreflect mugzees ice lances?

young swan
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u should try and tell us

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just for reference

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pally bubble doesnt work

clever path
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it shows rampage twice here in the prio list, I was wondering what's the difference between 10 and 15?

gilded pawn
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Idk why 9 and 10 are there

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But ignore 10

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So you prio ramp if over 100 rage

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Otherwise you min max your rage by pressing other stuff before ramp

clever path
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also, when it says to bloodthirst with 3+ stacks, does that include the 3?

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just making sure

quiet breach
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do most mechanics in LoU get mitigated by the 20% magic damage reduction on spell reflect?

quiet breach
clever path
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yeah i know that

quiet breach
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its telling u that bloodthirst > raging blow at 3 stacks of bloodcraze or higher

clever path
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when do you use bloodthirst over raging blow, it says 3+, does that include 3?

quiet breach
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some ppl say 4 though

quiet breach
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so just think of it as 3-4 I guess

gilded pawn
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This is where you pull up apl

quiet breach
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I don't even know what APL is

last sparrow
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think it actually depends on how much crit you have

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which is why a lot of people use a tracker for iti

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it*

acoustic coyote
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btw what's the reason the bloodcraze stacks aren't consumed after pressing bloodthirst? is this just a bug in my weakauras?

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sometimes*

lean haven
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Heloo. Kinda dont understand Moutain Thaine rotation prio. Can someone explay me the basics? Like thunder clap prio etc.? Ty much!

clever path
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while enraged your prio is thunderblast always

lean haven
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then rampage - rb-bt on 3 stacks?

last sparrow
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iirc

acoustic coyote
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oooohh... sure that's probably it

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ty

clever path
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ur prio while enraged is thunder blast, thunder clap if ur facing multiple targets, thunderous roar, rampage over 100 rage, bloodthirst when the requirements are met for it, raging blow raw bloodthirst etc

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just use this

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this would be the prio for m+ thane

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but disregard the rampage on 10 and 15

lean haven
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i have tried using that + jekilli, and got shit parses:D so thats cose i asked:)

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but ty much!

clever path
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parses with thane?

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is that even a thing

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raid build is slayer no?

clever belfry
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rat

warm crag
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rat

lean haven
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ofc, thane m+, slayer for st

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(bad parses in m+)

clever path
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parsing in m+ isnt a thing no?

warm crag
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not really

clever path
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it just depends on ur key level

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i thought

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im learning fury myself i got a question, says to use avatar with recklessness always, does that mean if avatar comes up we drift it to use together with recklessness always?

lean haven
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but ive tried that prio on dummies right now, like nobrainer, and got like +2m dmps increase on cleave that usual. Definetelly, tats better:D

clever belfry
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its key level and then dps or timer within the level

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but its

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irrelevant

warm crag
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you can log and if you filter it some scuffed way you can actually compare dps in m+ but no one bothers to log that shit

clever path
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what do you do with avatar btw when it comes up but recklessness is still on cd?

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do u drift it and use together always?

clever belfry
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what do u think after reading this talent

clever path
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ah i see

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so you'd just use both on cd then ye

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literally specced into fury for the first time half an hour ago so idk everything yet

elder mulch
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Hey, do you think Slayer is viable in MM+? What is DPS difference in % between Thane and Slayer?

summer quail
keen dove
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i think slayer might be even better for very low keys

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like +2 +3 idk

elder mulch
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The gameplay feels so slow with Thane... I hate it

potent thicket
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why do we still get 1H as fury

covert blaze
covert blaze
potent thicket
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I FORGOT

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😠

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xD

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and its a hero too

clever path
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ok i just wanna make sure for real, you pop recklessness and avatar on cd ye?

summer quail
torpid elbow
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i usally just pop both with my maCRO in mythix plus

feral ivy
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whats yall overall dps in keys around?

sick viper
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bruh do I srsly have to take spear for thane

feral ivy
sick viper
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I didnt notice my thane had spear lmfao

feral ivy
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i dont see any one with spear?

sick viper
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nvm I got the faq build and wowhead build mixed up

feral ivy
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ah kk yea no spear in MT or slayer lol

earnest canyon
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got a nice tank wep at least

potent thicket
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yee

sly slate
#

The m+ build string in the dps faq doesnt match the image

feral ivy
#

guess the 1st team that did it wow never fixed

sick viper
#

Race to world 3rd

#

these guys got some balls lmao

feral ivy
#

its the SAME team that did it the 1st time

dense elbow
#

That means it is race for world #2 no?

compact siren
#

banezi is gio?

gleaming siren
#

@oblique trail is Galastronk is Archi is Revvez is Gio theory

clever belfry
#

@oblique trail is Galastronk is Archi is Revvez is Gio theory

oblique trail
#

You shall all three be timed out for this absurd statement for multiple years

#

Consider this a blessing

gleaming siren
#

good

warm crag
#

@oblique trail is Galastronk is Archi is Revvez is Gio theory

gleaming siren
#

I'm not playing WoW anyway

clever belfry
#

maybe if banezi (archi) wasnt raiding right now, he would be on VC with us?

sick viper
#

yeah fuck WoW

#

trash game

clever belfry
#

first true thing ive read in fury today

compact siren
#

archi = revvez was proven incorrect by a famous tweet

#

silly man

earnest canyon
# feral ivy its the SAME team that did it the 1st time

Blizzard: "We are aware of an exploit that enabled a team of players to kill Gallywix instantly and without progressing the raid. Such exploits are not tolerated, and has been fixed. Appropriate action has been taken"
Dudes do it again
Blizzard:

quiet breach
#

or is that dbm

warm crag
sick viper
#

I thought it was big wigs

quiet breach
#

I don't have big wigs

#

only dbm

sick viper
#

idk how addons work so dont take my word

earnest canyon
#

its dbm

quiet breach
#

then wtf is the weakaura

#

I didn't notice anything different on my screen after putting it on

#

😭

earnest canyon
#

if you have a mob targetted that does a nasty ability you can kick, and ur kick is off cd, it will say interrupt

quiet breach
earnest canyon
#

you need to be aware and manually switch

#

but if its already casting it wont say it i think

#

you just need to be aware of what to kick, which just comes with experience

heavy plover
#

Question on the BT buff from the mountain thane proc: Do we not prioritize BT over raging blow? The priority list seems to imply that even tho you have a buffed BT you'd still use raging blow. Is that correct?

sick viper
warm crag
#

do you have some general s2 dungeon weakaura or

clever belfry
#

@spice ice = @flat river

#

=????

quiet breach
#

I am trying to figure out what its doing exactly

warm crag
#

thats not a general s2 dungeon weakaura

compact siren
quiet breach
#

apparently the "interupt" female voice I am hearing is DBM

#

not this wa

warm crag
#

this aura just puts markers on enemies when you hover over them or engage them in combat

clever belfry
compact siren
gleaming siren
flat river
#

bro

#

dont compare me like that

quiet breach
#

yeah i have nameplates and I didn't notice any difference

outer cedar
#

624 fury can't clear 11lv delves.. right? anyone clear??

quiet breach
#

I guess I'll have to turn it off and on and see

flat river
#

what happened to make u guys say we are the same

clever belfry
warm crag
#

it has been proven

compact siren
#

i think you should cook something

olive wraith
flat river
#

wallahi we are not the same person

quiet breach
#

did u upgrade ur guild yet @flat river

clever belfry
#

yes u are

gleaming siren
#

@solemn plover wallahi I'm blind

clever belfry
#

wallahi im balls

heavy plover
spice ice
#

I'm a mighty warrior her

flat river
outer cedar
heavy plover
#

Make sure to bring flasks, and take your time.

outer cedar
olive wraith
#

Ah has for cheap

quiet breach
#

ur kindve gapping ur guild ngl

warm crag
#

he is because he is revvez is fury is garms is gio57

sick viper
flat river
#

it feels good

#

to be top

quiet breach
#

I understand

sick viper
#

my odds of getting aotc this week are slim asf

quiet breach
#

gotta get that ego boost

sick viper
#

this day*

earnest canyon
#

revvez got benched for wolfdisco as galastronk had to go to work

flat river
#

our GM decided to take a small team for an extra raid day tmmrw

#

to get AOTC

earnest canyon
#

can i come

flat river
#

nah he invited me

#

cause im him

earnest canyon
#

oh

compact siren
#

he has been him

#

he will continue to be him

quiet breach
#

he saw the Rampage and was mesmerized

compact siren
#

him being gio

#

ofc

heavy plover
flat river
#

🤔

quiet breach
#

galastronk how many +10s or higher have u done

#

this week

flat river
#

7

#

need 1 more

warm crag
#

7

clever belfry
#

7

compact siren
#

7

gleaming siren
#

7

spice ice
#

7

flat river
#

bruh

quiet breach
#

7

kind mantle
#

Just be like my guild and be 1/8H and keep wiping on Cauldron bc 90% of dps are wearing like 620 ilvl gear keksquad

gleaming siren
#

Iskus are you woke

heavy plover
earnest canyon
quiet breach
#

no I just saw 7 spam

#

and joined

#

cuz haha funny spam

#

I am not aware of the inside joke

clever belfry
#

do u know what 7 means

quiet breach
#

nope

#

I always join a spam chain

gleaming siren
earnest canyon
graceful elk
#

Do you guys precast ur big cooldowns before a pull?

clever belfry
#

no

gleaming siren
#

I bladestorm before charging

flat river
quiet breach
compact siren
#

I send odyns before pulling

quiet breach
#

and manually cast bladestorm after rampaging

graceful elk
#

I dxidnt think anyone ran Odyns anymore

#

What do you macro with charge? Avatar and reck?

quiet breach
#

and blood fury

#

cuz I'm an orc

warm crag
#

hello ragish noob

rotund ginkgo
#

I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU SPONGIE

quiet breach
#

i cast my trinket before pull cuz it has a cast time

#

manual cast

gleaming siren
#

I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU SPONGIE

quiet breach
#

I have the one that transforms u into a lanky weird boi

quiet breach
#

but it gives u strength

hollow elk
#

are there any weakauras with suddendeath counter and sounds anyone uses?

quiet breach
hollow elk
quiet breach
#

I think this only works for slayer btw

#

I am unsure tho, I didn't make it

hollow elk
#

so this one has sound warnings?

quiet breach
#

just copied from someone

hollow elk
#

im big monkey and i need sound cues

quiet breach
hollow elk
#

roger

jade fjord
#

10er rookery - is the breakdown ok? - 641 2P

flat river
bitter palm
manic mirage
#

at what M+ level does Mountain thane usually become better to run?

crisp coral
#

Are we just fucked in AOE right now?

sour frigate
jade fjord
sour frigate
#

Ok then

cosmic lynx
#

do we swap to 2P when we get it or wait till 4p

jade fjord
#

these are stats

crisp coral
#

Just log your runs and look at the parse to know if your damage is okay.

#

2.2m in cinderbrew was a 90th percentile, which is okay ish

calm island
#

how much of a dmg upgrade is our new tierset

sour frigate
#

I did like 2.7 with 640 there

#

Same with priory

jade fjord
sour frigate
jade fjord
sour frigate
quiet breach
eternal sundial
#

clearly doenst say on the wa

bitter palm
#

what phil said

quiet breach
winter shoal
#

No Bigbowwl is Bigbowwl

#

Turbotopcone is Turbotopcone

quiet breach
#

ok I'm pretty sure u were the one that sent this to me that's why I asked

winter shoal
#

No I made my own that largely does the same thing but it's made to fit my UI and the way I like to do things

#

Cone's is probably better

#

I've shared mine a few times previously but I didn't originally intend for it to be shared so it's not necessarily good for others

winter shoal
quiet breach
#

what ilvl should I get to before trying a +10?

winter shoal
#

Idk like 642?

sour frigate
bitter palm
#

with it

sour frigate
#

No invite either way

bitter palm
#

actually kinda u can

#

i get accepted sometimes

earnest canyon
#

and leader will have a 2 chest +4

sour frigate
#

Dunno have 2700 main and cant get as 644 warr

outer umbra
#

gotta join a guild fellas and make connections you’ll get a 10 in at 640

bitter palm
#

prob a 2700 645 warr in queue

#

chatting

sour frigate
#

Chadding

bitter palm
#

did my first 10 at 625

#

it is what it is

#

got 25 ilvls in a day and a half

#

cinema

sour frigate
#

My mate did the same but we carried his ass clueless

bitter palm
#

i was cranking but

#

arms abuser

#

to be expected

sour frigate
#

From 610 to 644 we brought his havoc toon

bitter palm
#

does 3x everyones damage on bee boss cinderbrew

#

at 610

#

funny funnel

earnest canyon
bitter palm
sour frigate
#

I cracked as ww now time to gear some arms

#

Or fury

#

🤔

#

🏐 🏐 🏐

near canyon
#

5

bitter palm
#

7

sour frigate
glad coyote
#

Mechano-Core Amplifier’s lowest secondary stat effect reduced by 5%.

#

RIP

fierce peak
#

Does Rampage enrage BEFORE the hits or after? Do I need to be enraged when I hit rampage or can it drop for like 0.5s

clever belfry
#

ramp enrages before any damage

#

bt does not

fierce peak
#

god bless

#

thank you anda

clever belfry
#

OF with titanic rage (idk why you'd play this rn) also enrages before

pulsar python
#

guys

#

can anyone help me with my fury warrior?

#

im 641 ilvl and my dps is pure dog shit

#

im ready to put it in the bin but was told to look here first

winter shoal
#

Interesting comms

modest condor
#

run

winter shoal
#

They left their own group

#

Not sure how to interpret that

warped bone
#

[With realm restarts] Mechano-Core Amplifier’s lowest secondary stat effect reduced by 5%. Enough for me not having to farm it HC level ?

#

Pls say so

winter shoal
#

Probably not

warm wraith
#

Does the 4 set give you a choice on if you want to use the proc for rampage or bloodthirst or is it random?

fierce peak
#

Does it really not matter if we overcap rage sending Raging Blows after Bladestorm? Sometimes my enrage resets during bladestorm and I should send the 2-3 raging blows even though it overcaps rage a lot?

forest owl
restive peak
spare steppe
#

the fattest rampages around

oblique trail
#

So while it's a small gain, on a per scenario basis you should figure out if it messes up your timers or not

crimson yew
#

Is there A WA like the arms one to tell you when to execute but for fury?

winter shoal
crimson yew
#

Oh I have a diff one, ty

jade peak
#

Why does pressing raging blows feels like ass

#

Even bloodthirst feels better to press

#

This season spec in fury feels so odd

winter shoal
earnest canyon
crimson yew
winter shoal
#

Damn I was gonna ratio Cone again

harsh barn
#

Do I want to try and make sure every one of my pieces has mastery and haste? or is it ok to have a bit of versatility and crit

slim coral
#

we up

modest condor
#

grats

slim coral
grizzled shard
#

how impactful is the nerf to mechano core?

urban forge
#

5%

maiden sphinx
#

I wish they undid some of the bladestorm nerfs, AM slayer is fun in keys but thane just pumps soo much harder 😦

inner zinc
#

So Eye of Kezan is the new Signet Brand?

slim coral
#

what do you mean by that

sudden tusk
chilly fractal
#

Well only took 27 runs I think for the Cinderbrew neck

olive wraith
#

That’s it?

bright sable
#

so on MT im supposed to not use BT unless theres a proc or below 35% hp right?

#

is there a WA or something I can use to make it more visible when im supposed to BT

inner zinc
tepid cedar
#

am i going crazy or is bldestrom and reckless desyncing cooldown timers

next pecan
#

Are you using Anger Management

tepid cedar
#

yea

young swan
#

then they're gonna desync

next pecan
#

then yea thats normal

bright talon
#

If I have these weps atm, what should I carft if I get a myth wep on vault?

young swan
#

even if u werent, Slayer just naturally desyncs them

earnest canyon
#

just like a smooth easy to play spec

tepid cedar
#

ahhhh

#

its not anger management

#

its fucking marked for execution

young swan
#

its both

#

but yeah

tepid cedar
#

well AM wont desync it

next pecan
#

dont you just slam cd's with AM

tepid cedar
#

its the 5 ssec dr from marked

young swan
next pecan
#

yea i prefer that rather than trying to line shit up

tepid cedar
#

yea literally full send, i need to look at apl anmd see what the hold BS for reck time is

young swan
#

i generally wont hold unless if the active cd on reck is <10s

tepid cedar
#

slayer->add_action( "bladestorm,if=buff.enrage.up&(talent.reckless_abandon&cooldown.avatar.remains>=24|talent.anger_management&cooldown.recklessness.remains>=24)" );

#

so basicaly over 24

#

seconds

#

send it

#

under 24 hold it

sinful spoke
#

:stonk

#

insane 9m mortal strike crit

next pecan
#

with target <35% do you ever stack bloodcraze aswell here?

young swan
#

well u cant just not press rb so yes

next pecan
#

yea i figured, was just confused by the wording as it reads like you should just send BT without stacking bloodcraze at that point

young swan
#

nah its just saying u dont need to wait for 3 stacks of BC

next pecan
#

okayge tyty

merry pewter
#

so unless the target is <35% or you got 3 stacks you just use rampage and Rb?

next pecan
#

i believe so but sometimes you use BT to gen rage

#

i think?

thick fossil
#

God damnit.... I hate Mug'zee fucking up my dps with all his silly jails targetting me.

haughty token
#

how important is tier

winter shoal
#

For fury? Not very

#

It's ~4% from the set bonus

#

Over having no set bonus

thick fossil
#

for us, yeah, arms... better

winter shoal
#

Arms is ~9%

haughty token
#

i have last tier 4 set

winter shoal
#

Go to raidbots.com top gear sim and see if replacing your old 4pc is worth it for the extra ilvl

haughty token
#

ok

rocky locust
#

How come the Warrior BiS page says Cyrce's Circlet is BiS, but this other Wowhead article says to replace it with a 665 ring?
https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/bis-gear#bis
https://www.wowhead.com/news/updated-cyrces-circlet-recommendations-in-season-2-bis-or-when-to-replace-for-375511

earnest canyon
rocky locust
#

whoops one sec

earnest canyon
#

i would always just sim it if I got a new ring

#

regardless of what wowhead said

#

the 2nd link seems to be from 11.0.7 and we are on 11.1

rocky locust
earnest canyon
#

I would just sim it

royal copper
#

we can agree that the Pacemaker trinket is insane, right?

quiet breach
#

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modest condor
# rocky locust How come the Warrior BiS page says Cyrce's Circlet is BiS, but this other Wowhea...

Bis lists are notoriously low effort because they're pointless anyway, they are just there so that we dont get a flood of "does anybody have a bis list?" questions in here. Unless there's a drastic change it's usually just posted at the start of the season and then ignored for the rest of it. There was a small nerf to circlet which probably pushed it down a notch but due to reasons mentioned before the bis list wasnt updated.

royal copper
rocky locust
modest condor
#

bis lists only mean something if you have access to every single piece of gear in the game at the max ilvl

#

if you dont, they're pointless

#

getting an item on the bis list at hero track means it's gonna be weaker than the first myth track item you loot (except for some rare items like best in slots or specific trinkets)

#

that myth track item is gonna change your secondary distribution

#

whichy means the other items are also not necessarily gonna be the best for you

fluid pollen
#

wolfdisco reppin fury hard

lean nacelle
#

does the 5% nerf to mechano-core make it not bis anymore?

sudden tusk
#

takes increaed dam

quiet breach
rocky locust
# modest condor if you dont, they're pointless

Well in that case, I find it kind of strange that any list exists in first place when it's pointless for 99.9% of players. But I guess you covered that with "so people stop asking for one".

latent hedge
#

people love their lists

sullen dove
modest condor
#

That's all there is to it yeah. It's the same with stat weights, in the end whatever sims best is gonna be best regardless of what stats it puts you at, but if we don't give them a stat priority they're gonna keep asking about it.

#

and if you dont care about minmaxing you can just equip the items with the highest prio and you'll probably within 5% of the max anyway

winter shoal
velvet obsidian
#

AM my beloved. I may never go back to RA again

rocky locust
modest condor
#

stat prio

#

what stat is best at any point is dynamic and depends on the other gear you have equipped, but people want a quick and easy list to blindly follow so that's what they're given

rocky locust
#

Alright

modest condor
#

you see it pretty often, questions like "i thought our best stats are haste and mastery why does x item in the bis list have y stats instead?"

earnest canyon
#

and we have raidbots which is free and easy to use

lilac plinth
#

How is fury on keys guys ?

earnest canyon
#

fun

winter shoal
modest condor
#

the first pull in the dungeon will make you think we're garbage and then you spend the rest of the dungeon catching up only to overtake on the final boss

winter shoal
#

Your overall probably won't be exceptional esp in dungeons with bigger pulls, but higher overall doesn't always mean faster dungeon

undone flower
winter shoal
#

Silm what kind of overalls are you ripping in cinderbrew type shit

#

3m?

modest condor
#

something like that, my gear is garbage tho, ilvl 644 still using 639 weapons

undone flower
#

Yeah sry autocorrect

earnest canyon
#

but idk

undone flower
#

I think it’s just because people would scream if they just remove it

#

It is no longer in a legacy tool tab*

winter shoal
#

stat weights is sometimes useful in very niche scenarios if you know its limitations

undone flower
#

Just do a top gear or a dropthingy

modest condor
#

figuring out which piece of gear to equip is not one of those scenarios

winter shoal
#

Yes

#

I mean the scenarios I'm thinking of are like simming what gems or flasks to use when I cba to run multiple top gear sims with different gear+gem combinations, or hunt down the simc string to have profiles for different flasks

#

But I'd only do that on alts I don't care much about

#

Top gear is inarguably better for both of those

modest condor
#

last time i used stat weights was to show someone that offhand weapon dps matters

winter shoal
#

But if you want a quick and dirty "close enough", stat weights is useful

wispy isle
#

should i execute at 2 or 3 stacks of marked for execution?

modest condor
#

3 unless you need those 10 seconds of cdr right now

winter shoal
modest condor
#

or sudden death is about to fall off

winter shoal
#

What silm said, or if AJ or SD are close to expiring

wispy isle
#

thank you

celest sierra
#

yeh wont lie, fury feels weak burst wise but when it comes to the charts overall

#

we just climb up as the dungeon goes on

clever path
#

We have a lot more sustain now

#

So the longer stuff goes the more we climb it feels like

lucid thorn
#

slayer or thane better this season?

clever path
lucid thorn
#

ok cool

#

I was going into norm tomorrow, I know it doesn't mean a whole lot but just wanted to know how to eech out that bit more dps

#

cause at 630 I need all the help I can get

#

with only 619 weapons lmao

clever path
#

I’d highly recommend going on wowheads warrior cheat sheet for raid, gives some decent talent builds to use for each fight

lucid thorn
#

yeah I'm gonna try and do that

outer rover
outer rover
#

Its a cloak. Only with strength and versatility. Only one secondary stat

young swan
#

yes but it still has the same budget

#

its just all in vers

#

just sim it

outer rover
#

Kk thx

celest sierra
#

is priory trinket good for us?

lucid thorn
#

ahhh franku

#

how I miss you

modern moon
#

Playing Slayer in raids, lets say pure ST. Since with AM, every major ability comes off CD at different times. Should I send them regardless or wait to align? For instance BS comes off way earlier than reck, roar is whatever and Avatar is usable before 3rd BS or reck. Just send it? Talking about Singletarget without prio adds coming up or anything

indigo arch
#

Rest in pizzas francis of the filth

kind mural
#

anyone got a good execute weak aura ?

lucid thorn
gloomy owl
#

so we won't have to farm delves anymore? 😄

young swan
inland vector
modern moon
#

Got it, thanks

warm rain
#

hey guys what's the concensus on the embellishments? I'm seeing conflicting things

#

everyone still waiting it out?

somber elk
dusk river
#

Probably been asked 100 times, but I couldnt find the answer.
How big of a diff is there between arms and fury in m+?

smoky vale
#

arms is better in higher target counts

#

fury does more prio damage and is hard capped at 5 targets

#

both are playable

quiet breach
final yarrow
#

Does that mean fury also does more pure ST dmg than arms?

next ruin
sullen dove
final yarrow
#

K

#

Was trying to see what boss fits arms vs fury in raid

flat river
#

They nerfed delve trinket by 5%

#

Lowest secondary stat only though

atomic fog
#

you craft wrists or wait for weapon first guys ?

hasty bramble
#

Why wait? You can craft weap now

signal geyser
#

you need two sparks

hasty bramble
#

Thought we could just recraft with crest? My bad if not

keen dove
#

it requires spark

quiet python
#

How good is funhouse lens? Got it in heroic track

somber elk
#

Pretty good

surreal musk
#

Do I always want to send 2 Raging Blow for 2 Slaughtering Strikes after BS prior to Rampage?

#

Even when im Ragecapped after the BS?

quiet breach
#

what level m+ key do you have to complete to get a heroic track piece from vault?

quiet breach
#

fuuuck i need to do a +2

#

like right now

quiet breach
unreal onyx
#

Yup

surreal musk
#

correct

quiet breach
#

Im so glad i asked

#

before going to sleep

unreal onyx
#

I didnt know a +2 already gives hero track, is that new in S2?

gleaming siren
#

But rage doesn't matter for this

unreal onyx
#

Being 6/8hc, I have no chance of loot from the last 2 bosses right?

#

Works like myth

gleaming siren
#

Nope

unreal onyx
#

Surely that will increase my odds of getting best in slots tomorrow clueless

surreal musk
gleaming siren
#

You have to stay enraged

#

Which if you don't play Deft sometimes doesn't happen

#

Otherwise you kinda just slam the RB button

#

And sometimes you'd want to press Exe

gleaming siren
#

But also

#

Feel free to ignore it

quiet breach
#

actually nvm just gonna have to take that knowledge gap L

#

i am too tired

flat river
#

WARRIOR NEVER TIRED

#

GO DO +2

quiet breach
#

also, some 618 ilvl dps applied to my group and i rejected him and he got mad at me in my whispers

#

lol

flat river
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Tell him to do his own key

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lol

quiet breach
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i just insta ignored him

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but your post motivated me to try to do it

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if the group blows up i aint tryin again tho