fury

[rotund ginkgo]

is wowhead arms m+ talents fine?

[eternal sundial]

haste proc on hammer + wb in execute

actual Pi

[bitter palm]

no 3rd hit demo 💔

[eternal sundial]

hammer proc has like 40% uptime in keys for me

stupid item

[bitter palm]

dont play executioners precision

its useless

i have like

15 casts per dungeon

[rotund ginkgo]

what do i play instead

[bitter palm]

something else

[rotund ginkgo]

BB?

[eternal sundial]

BB ^^

[bitter palm]

bloodsurge bloodborne

[rotund ginkgo]

so 1p in bb?

rest is fine?

[bitter palm]

idk i havent seen the talent tree

[rotund ginkgo]

thats what im using rn

[bitter palm]

looks good

[eternal sundial]

2nd wind not real talentr

[bitter palm]

should take rumbling earth imo

[eternal sundial]

this week yes

[bitter palm]

its so strong

also never swap from soa

dn is bait

[rotund ginkgo]

soa?

bro i just

copied

ah

strength of arms

[bitter palm]

ye

[eternal sundial]

SOA = spires of ascension

[bitter palm]

might get tempted to try it

dont

[eternal sundial]

SHADOWLANDS JUMPSCARE

[rotund ginkgo]

we play rava?

[bitter palm]

ye colossus

[bitter palm]

last boss and u dont kill ice restard so u are perma slowed with one charge cause u play stormbolt 💔

[eternal sundial]

i did nto play stormbolt

entire expansion

[bitter palm]

based

[eternal sundial]

freaky utility denial

[rotund ginkgo]

u guys are sayinga rms doesnt have many keys

i literally have

19

[frozen berry]

I want Stormbolt to go back to doing 400% increased dmg to targets immune to your stuns

[rotund ginkgo]

so many cooldowns

[bitter palm]

yeah colo has a lot u want to track

[bitter palm]

bro is the server

[eternal sundial]

idk how many that is for number

but it feels ok

[proud leaf]

?

[rotund ginkgo]

WTF

philliams

are we twinning

such a similar bar

[bitter palm]

xdd

[stoic kindle]

whats the point of tracking deep wounds?

[eternal sundial]

same spec rlly

[proud leaf]

lol wtf

[eternal sundial]

it shows when its missing or when i need to refresh

which basically means its hidden after opener perma

rend only shows when missing or within pandemic

very cozy

[proud leaf]

is there an auto-deposit mechanism on one armed bandit? raid is telling me i'm depositing tokens but i've manually deposited just fine

[stoic kindle]

i mean you always have deep wounds, no?

[eternal sundial]

yep

[proud leaf]

apparently i'm wiping the raid but i'm not pushing any buttons that would do so

[eternal sundial]

it was relevant for S3 and early S4 DF with spam exe rota

where u would actually ms for DW in exe

[eternal sundial]

are you collecting the thingies

[rotund ginkgo]

auto deposit?

ur either accidentally collecting the coins

and not depositing

[bitter palm]

sus

i applied dw with cs

[stoic kindle]

you gotta press the extra action button to deposit the coin

[bitter palm]

[rotund ginkgo]

or ur just missing it

yeah

[eternal sundial]

ye but if shit rng

u rarely ms for dw

[bitter palm]

true

[eternal sundial]

cringus moment tho

[bitter palm]

3 sd in a row

20% tom

[rotund ginkgo]

ok whats the opener

[proud leaf]

what does accidentally picking up the tokens do? thought the issue is if you deposit them int he wrong order

[eternal sundial]

cancelaura sd moment

cancelaura blord

[rotund ginkgo]

if you pick up the token

and not deposit it

ur equally fucking up the raid

[bitter palm]

stop

[eternal sundial]

paw did much evil

[rotund ginkgo]

if u pick up the token (which should always be the correct token since we're assuming tanks are moving boss to correct add+ur WA tells u which one to kill)

[eternal sundial]

that tier

[rotund ginkgo]

just insta-deposit it

[bitter palm]

i dont think we ever revealed

the fatality shit me and paw came up with

[eternal sundial]

the spam slam in exe

or wdym

[bitter palm]

yeah but also ww in execute

cursed shit

[eternal sundial]

just TOM

[bitter palm]

ms slam spam never op

cs for fatality

🫃

[rotund ginkgo]

correct?

[eternal sundial]

looks ok ye

depends on ur ava talent tho

if u get free sweep u sweep later

otherwise it extends

and u have the C/D cleave in 4 business days

[stoic kindle]

ravager pre avatar, no?

[bitter palm]

idk i ava a bit later

dont think it matters really

i ava with wb

[stoic kindle]

charge > bleeds > ravager > avatar+wb

[bitter palm]

bro this opener with 8% haste

[stoic kindle]

demolish at 10 stacks

[bitter palm]

is like 10 hours

[tardy lark]

i like to wb and either send demolish asap or save it till after ravager ends

makes more sense going from one pull to another with 10 stacks

so you cleave-tc-roar-sweep-wb-demolish-ravager-cleave/op/ms

[eternal sundial]

with extendo ava

or reck believer

[tardy lark]

i cba playing around collat

[eternal sundial]

i member in sl when u just had fob+mbg and that shit did dam

wb spear bs ss spam ww

[gritty sigil]

does anyone know where i can find how much proc rates actually are on items, like when it says , "has a very high chane to..." or "has a chance to". and does weilding 2 2H weapons give us a higher chance than say a 1 2H user

[random bough]

what's performing better in M+ arms or Fury?

[wheat lantern]

Arms is for losers , fury all the way

[lapis scaffold]

bro i have 619 ilvl and people still won't let me join normal raids

like wtf

[smoky vale]

yeah

[lapis scaffold]

is it 630+ for everyone?

[carmine hound]

is slayer still viable in m+?

[lapis scaffold]

makes no sense

[smoky vale]

do m0s

[wheat lantern]

you need AOTC heroic before joining a normal

sarcasm

[lapis scaffold]

having the same problem there

more luck with LFR and m0s than normal raids though

people are so picky it's stupid

[remote fog]

does anybody know what the weakaura/addon is that whispers priests to PI us when we pop cds?

[wheat lantern]

all about making your own sadly

im 646 2k not getting invited to 5-7s , lol

[vague sierra]

Does anyone have this damn 2min signet of the priory trinket? Any clue as to when to activate it since it's desynced with avatar? just on 3rd 45 second reck or wat

[lapis scaffold]

that's wild

[smoky vale]

list your own group

[lapis scaffold]

i have a +3 mythic keystone but i also have an instance lock on the dungeon that it's for

i'm pretty sure i wouldn't get loot from it, right?

[smoky vale]

thats not how m+ works

[lapis scaffold]

😲

[smoky vale]

its infinite loot to random people

[modest condor]

wowhead, go to the item's page, then click on the effect in the tooltip and it will take you to the page of the ability it procs and it will tell you the rppm, for example on sacbrood https://www.wowhead.com/item=219314/ara-kara-sacbrood you click on the green text with the trinket effect, then you get to this page https://www.wowhead.com/spell=443541/ara-kara-sacbrood and it will tell you 2.5 rppm

it will also tell you if the proc is hasted or not (it would show [2.5 + haste] if it was)

[smoky vale]

hi silm

[lapis scaffold]

so the instance locks are only for m0?

[smoky vale]

hi phil

[smoky vale]

yes

[lapis scaffold]

damn

im gonna try and make my own then

i dont know if i'll survive though

[eternal sundial]

good call

youll learn the dungeons

[lapis scaffold]

what is recommended ilvl for +3

[smoky vale]

its why you see people with over 60 runs already

[eternal sundial]

at 620 ull be fine

[lapis scaffold]

ive done most of them already

okay good

[smoky vale]

dunno you could probably do at 600

[lapis scaffold]

ive been trying hard af to push my ilvl

atp all i can do is either more dungeons, LFR, or normal raid

[smoky vale]

so has everyone spamming 10s

[eternal sundial]

dungeons good

[smoky vale]

yes

[lapis scaffold]

never even gone that far up before

i would probably die

[eternal sundial]

always a first

[lapis scaffold]

and plus my mythic level is low

for runs

[smoky vale]

this dungeon pull is fun

[tepid solar]

Anyone having issues with battle net??

[eternal sundial]

youll get higher and higher score eventually

gradual improvement to the goal

[smoky vale]

Phil whats your number

are you ahead of me

[eternal sundial]

sub 25

like 2440

2472 apparently

poopy

[smoky vale]

im 2481

im 5th place in my guild

😦

[eternal sundial]

uhräediohdüq

i must ascend

[smoky vale]

losing to swordish

[eternal sundial]

to 2500

im uh

like 7th but im not a raider

so im like 6 ilvl + tier down atm

[smoky vale]

i stopped queuing for 10s after i finished vault

i want my items bro

ik for dam sure im not getting shit from raid

[eternal sundial]

i just play when my dk friend plays

pug is aids

[smoky vale]

pug is aids indeed

most of my keys are queuing with shadow priest

or fullish stack with swordish disc player and + 1

maybe a rando pug

doing double war double priest is so demonic btw

[feral ivy]

??

[dense fulcrum]

uhm..u guys have 30min queue in battlenew client? o.O

same kratos

LOL

WTH

[eternal sundial]

ret ww war we did

which is good ish

just n ranged

[smoky vale]

yeah we had 3.5 kicks

🙂

and prot war kick is mostly fake if im kiting backwards

if i walk up and get hit from behind

gg

[eternal sundial]

ew

r u tank

[hardy bluff]

tank main for keys

[smoky vale]

when playing double war double priest i have to

[eternal sundial]

i never tank keys

not fun

[hardy bluff]

neither is dps

[smoky vale]

you are the problem

[hardy bluff]

keys are the problem

[eternal sundial]

i like murdering shit

not getting murdered

[hardy bluff]

prot murders rn

[earnest canyon]

this

[gritty sigil]

ty!

[earnest canyon]

about as fun as dragging yourself naked through glass and fire for the chance of a cold beer in a desert

[maiden sphinx]

I did try slayer in 10's btw

[dim kite]

Same

[maiden sphinx]

thane was just waaay better in 10's than slayer even with packs not living that long 😦

I miss slayer

[restive peak]

Yeah I assumed so, sadness is real man. I love thane too, just wish I could
Play both sometimes

[wheat lantern]

mountain thane is lit , just hate no shockwave reduce CD , what can we opt out for it ? feels like im the only one clutching orb affixes like a absolute legend with it

[clever belfry]

balls

[hasty yacht]

hey guys, im 100% new to warrior this season (and playing in melee in general) and I am struggling big time learning both hero talent trees at the same time. I've been spamming keys/delves this week as MT, how troll would it be to play MT in raid for the first couple weeks as I generally just get more comfortable with the class + mechanics since im more used to it than slayer atm

[restive peak]

PRetty troll but slayer isn't complicated

[winter shoal]

Yeah, would recommend just spending an hour or two on training dummy and you should be able to pick up slayer no problem

Grab cone's execute weakaura

Press it similarly to how you'd press thunder blast with thane

[earnest canyon]

This Steve Bumpumper boss seems no joke for a 4th boss

been watching echo and liquid struggle on and off for 2 days now

[tribal dune]

yeah this boss got hands

[earnest canyon]

tactics seem easy to figure out, as expected for a 4th boss, but the execution?

https://tenor.com/view/chewie-star-wars-chewie-star-wars-gosh-gif-5647739657431325473

[restive peak]

Insane tuning

Hitting enrage that early with this much going on is criminal

[earnest canyon]

Max looks fedup.....

[tribal dune]

watching firedup play fire mage is almost therapeutic though

[earnest canyon]

yeah he flows around mechanics like water

i would love if they just made him tank or something for a first boss as a charity donation

[chilly fractal]

I guarantee Max isn’t as fed up with that as I am with this neck from Cinderbrew

Seen 4 people get it today that didn’t want but couldn’t trade

[earnest canyon]

i wish M+ didnt give gear at all except vault and a mount based on score

so the mentalists can run it all day and I dont need to

[grand orchid]

Is there a mastrey cap for fury? And when

[olive wraith]

No. Just sim. It’ll tell you if another stat will perform better

[clever path]

Hi. What's easier and lowest effort to play "well enough" in raids. Arms or fury?

[inland vector]

Fury rotation is simpler but requires higher apm, depends on how you define effort to play.

[clever path]

Like I have 2 hours to learn lol. So fury it is I suppose?

[inland vector]

Probably, if you are good at maintaining time on target with high apm go w/ fury. It is performing better for most fights in the new raid right now if you don't have the 4set anyways

[safe cradle]

hey so ive noticed in 11.1 that I no longer get crushing blows and bloodbath like I used to is this bc of the reckless abandon changes?

[feral ivy]

am i the only one who HATES flood gate?? its soooo much dmg

swamp is dot dmg on top of aoe on top of dodge waves or death

[dense elbow]

I kinda enjoy the place. Just big pull after big pull. Bosses are fair and enjoyable. Mechanics punish bad play, but are quite easy to handle. Keeps you active, not overwhelmed

Also, bubbles is a plus

[feral ivy]

i think i just hate big momma and swampface everything else is manageable but those 2 need a nerf to dmg with swampface and be able to stun the adds in big momma

big momma adds if 1 person miss a interupt or god forbid u bring a druid and a priest not fair

[dense elbow]

Maybe they scale like crazy. Momma is just perfect for Fury AoE, and got an amp phase to burst in. 7/10
Swampface is a chill patchwerk fight with minimal movement

[indigo arch]

Blizzard took RA and odyn and titan's torment out back and shot them, enjoy AM and doing mediocre burst every pull

[rich grail]

when should we be swapping to the new tier with fury? 2 piece or 4?

[winter shoal]

RA is still good

[indigo arch]

Talking m+

should have said

Going from beating dhs to not is great

good patch lul

[dense elbow]

2+2 is the last thing I saw when ppl asked. I am out of the loop, I just use highest ilvl to be more tanky and it works perfectly fine

[sick viper]

2+2 = 4

[dense elbow]

2+3 is 5, the optimal setup

[sick viper]

https://tenor.com/view/crip-mac-on-hood-on-god-channel5-gif-24067561

Keep it 55th we dont fuck with custers!

[dense pebble]

Pressing reck and charging doesn’t not give u enough rage to slam rampage immediately anymore ?

[indigo arch]

Nope, yet another fun "feature" of AM being meta

enjoy

[drowsy sage]

wtf is that Gingi?

[sick viper]

Crip Mac

[drowsy sage]

ah i see

[sick viper]

https://tenor.com/view/western-wiggle-gif-7006902421034216209

Stay bluetiful

[earnest canyon]

https://youtu.be/M3ujv8xdK2w?t=10

[keen kindle]

Swap face should burn in a fire for reigniting memories of sludgefist

[winter shoal]

You should be able to with reck > charge > ava in that order

If your auto attacks get parried you might be down bad though

[gilded pawn]

used to be that you run RA

now you have to depend on auto going off correctly

[median marsh]

I saw on wc log thqt some fury players already using 2 new crafted items, on wrist and boots mostly, that give you bonus whwn you are over 80% health,
Hiw can ppl make 2 items?
Crest costs 90 this is the max for the week

What am i missing?

[frank dawn]

has to be a season 1 piece

for one of them

[neat coral]

Yo big dawgs I know icyveins says cloak and wrists but is it worth to go crafted weapon instead of one of them because I’ll more than likely not get the mythic raid 2-handers until we get 11.1.5 at least

[sour frigate]

yes

the lists say the bis options

[jade cipher]

guys i have 24k mastery

and i cant change any gear right now

should i use 639 sikran neck instead of heroic mugzee neck to alleviate the situation?

[neat coral]

Thank you

[frail cape]

if im playing AM and bs comes up 10-15 seconds before reck bc of execute cdr, i should hold for reck right?

[sour frigate]

try sim btw

[sudden tusk]

: )

[sour frigate]

funny green men

weird its not subs

[potent thicket]

green

[heavy nacelle]

guys.. I need a pug inviting strategy 🙂 I need to finish at least one +10 this reset cause it's such an easy season. I've been going super slow cause I'm a guildless, friendless dps warrior, so I timed every key on every difficulty before moving up. So I've done like 45+ keys to get to where I am now (all 6 timed, 4x 7 timed). I'm gonna run out of time before the reset. Is there any pug lfg tech out there I can use to speed things up 😛 my ilvl is 647. My own key is only +3 and if I list it, nobody signs up obviously. HELP ;O

[sour frigate]

try again listing ur key

i had ton of applicants in my floodgame +3

[heavy nacelle]

hm k

[sour frigate]

also its giga hard to pug into 10th now

i tried +8s its fucking fiesta

90% pugs dont know what to do at all

not speaking of 1.5kk overall and stuff

[heavy nacelle]

interesting, all the 7s i've done so far have been ++, maybe I got lucky

or maybe I'm cleaving like a beast

;O

[frail cape]

im stuck with a +3 due to zero applications despite doing 6s as well

[heavy nacelle]

see!

[sour frigate]

🤔

i guess u found a party member

[frail cape]

normally its like ok some shit people, i take some tank thats a bit low, but its like genuinely i sit there for 15 minutes and maybe one dps signs up lmao

[sour frigate]

🤝

[heavy nacelle]

yep, depressing

I think I'll just take the hit and be behind 1 week for myth track, it is waht it is, pug dps warrior tax. And I started the season with pretty bad gear from S1

[sour frigate]

its funny we applied into a 7th floodgate to farm a trink and a host was like "guys do u know the tact"
we have it 11 timed

proceeds to do a 1.5kk as ret

[heavy nacelle]

🙂

[sullen dove]

5 monks btw

b tier btw

did riku like retire or get retired

[sour frigate]

c tier

dont nerf therefore

[elfin hatch]

what is the fury priority for thane bloodthirst over raging blow?
i heard 3 stacks of bloodcraze or mob under 35% hp
bloodthirst has a 35% chance to grant thunderblast
which is big
we also have burst of power
which gives BT 35% more dmg

i think the first two are covered with the wowhead guide

but the last 2 points i cant read something about

[surreal token]

Is the catalyst charge shared between 2k, AOTC, and 1600 PVP?

or are they separate?

[sour frigate]

shared

[heavy nacelle]

I'm assuming all of that extra stuff is taken into account and baked into the priority, so thats what I do. Got a weakaura that lights it up on 3 stacks or under 35%

it's based on sims anyway, not on opinions

[elfin hatch]

when reading all that stuff its hard to believe that there are situations where raging blow has a higher priority than bloodthirst

[unreal onyx]

Mob under 35% only if talented into VC, right?

[somber elk]

Can you Share that wa?

[chrome summit]

Do we go 2/2 set as soon as we can ? Or we keep 4?

[unreal onyx]

This is what wowhead says

So ig 2+2 is the play

[chrome summit]

Ah kk cool ty.

[potent thicket]

crap

i sold em

[eternal sundial]

item restore

[solar shadow]

I got 2 tokens last night so came here for this question, lovely jubbly

[dry crescent]

haste and mastery have cap?

[unreal onyx]

2 tokens and 2 catalyst charges, imagine already having 4p

[unreal onyx]

Just sim top gear

Don't worry about "caps"

[unreal onyx]

Surely best-in-slots drops today for us and I will get it

[iron portal]

2+2 = 4

[sour frigate]

-1 is 3

[lapis horizon]

gallywix

[heavy nacelle]

just simmed it with m+ thane spec so the bot does the same thing, spams raging blow until 3 stacks

[heavy nacelle]

at work now, but I can later 😛

[somber elk]

Also at Work, so Thats Fine 👍😂

[sleek nimbus]

Hey, quick question. For fury slayer in the raid. Since we play AM dont we just send rampage as soon as its available, why do raging blow/bloodthirst have prio over normal rampage below 100 rage? (According to wowhead prio list)

[unreal onyx]

Quick maffs

[unreal onyx]

#fury message

For bloodcraze buff

Realistically it shouldnt matter tooooo much tho afaik

[eternal sundial]

cuz rb does dumb damage

[tiny seal]

Is there a weakaura to Track Winning Streaks and 4p proccs?

[eternal sundial]

did u look at wago

[open otter]

Hey guys, I need some help. Playing Anger Management. Every guide is saying i use recklessness pre Charge to instantly cast Rampage on collapse. Where do I get the additional Rage from to Do that? I always have to wait or even cast 1x BT or something like that...

[eternal sundial]

melee hit on pull

[stone cobalt]

So true...

[chilly elbow]

Do u have this list for slayer How to prio it with execute to

[frank void]

Well, for now im learning fury and swapped anger management for the other talent here but i have a question. If we play with anger management we should still use macro for reckless and avatar or i should bind both on diffirent buttons

[heavy nacelle]

yeah I have a whole group of execute WAs for slayer priority

makes it glow according to the guide's priorities

[gloomy owl]

been working on that as well 🙂

[heavy nacelle]

but my setup isn't perfect, so for example if conditions for both bloodthirst and execute are met, they will both be glowing at the same time so I still have to use some judgement for what's a bigger priority 😛

in this case usually execute, cause you don't wanna drop Ashen buff

so I was thinking instead of WA's I'll just make a custom Hekili priority list, but then I noticed I was always staring at what the addon was telling me to press intead of actually playing the game and looking around and it made me feel dumb so I went back to WAs 🙂

[sour frigate]

ravager and reck get same cd with am try it

[inland vector]

You will want to cast them independently on cd. You can have them macrod to the same button, but you should track their cds independently.

[tiny seal]

Yes didnt find any for fury

[jade cipher]

guys is mechano core ampifllier dropable from all delves or specific

[tiny seal]

There are some for other classes but didnt try them

[stiff barn]

Pretty sure it's all

I seem to recall getting mine from a non undermine delve

[unreal onyx]

You could/should bind them independently imo, with AM the CDs unalign and you want to send them basically on CD

Or have both in one, and track independently and press the same button depending on which is off CD

You can macro reck+rav in one macro

[halcyon python]

From wich delve level it drops on hero track?

[stiff barn]

I did an 8 with a map

Think it was the nerubian one in ringing deeps, that I got lucky with.

[halcyon python]

I so do not want to do delves

[gleaming siren]

all delves

I got my Hero from Fungal Folly with a map

[gleaming siren]

only from the one weekly map or vault

[clever belfry]

@gleaming siren wanna do quick delve sess on alts

get mappus done

[gleaming siren]

already did Warlock

[clever belfry]

man

schmidi hates me

wcyd

[gleaming siren]

guess can come

Pala

[clever belfry]

if u cba u cba

cause pally is kinda bench for a while anyway isnt it

[river loom]

Guyz its better to run old 4p or 2p/2p?

[eternal sundial]

22

[unreal onyx]

Pin this

[forest owl]

at first i read this as 'when to replace the fury warrior'

[unreal onyx]

When to replace the fury warrior? Immediately

[runic cypress]

DF

[haughty quest]

Hey guys, I switched my warrior from alt to main for this season. I usually played fury all the way.

I started as arms in this season, as I gathered it would be better then fury. Inow saw that most of the higher guilds played fury, I am thinking if I should switch.

I do raiding (bottom tier CE) and M+ (around 3k). Do you think I should come back to fury as this is my prefered spec?

[oblique trail]

Play the spec you prefer, if you get CE late into the patch you wont be hitting checks that high end guilds meet

But if you care enough, play both specs based on the situation

Nothing more to it

[inner pine]

If fury and arms about equal for m+ atm? I'm about to get back into the game and they seem close on wcl

[eternal sundial]

arms doesnt suffer from the target cap as much

fury you will feel it

so it kinda depends on the key

[inner pine]

Makes sense

Does either have utility/survivability advantages over the other?

[eternal sundial]

utility is the same

fury is bit tankier

[haughty quest]

Fury is tankier

[eternal sundial]

arms is not squishy tho

[inner pine]

Well I'm prob gonna play fury and switch to arms if it's insane on spesific keys then

Thanks bois

[haughty quest]

How do you guys deal with the different stat needs? Just craft for one spec and later on if you have something to spare for the other class?

[heavy nacelle]

by staying Fury all season 😄 farming one set of gear is hard enough!

[eternal sundial]

h/m craft covers both specs

[haughty quest]

Ok

I was unsure because of the crit

[eternal sundial]

crit on neck/rings and u fine

[haughty quest]

Ok thank you very much

[heavy nacelle]

but I mean thats gonna sim noticably worse for Fury than haste/mastery :p

ofc if you dont care for parses then it's whatever 🙂

[haughty quest]

He said haste mastery for both and for arms I need to drop crit accs, no?

[jovial coral]

So which spec do I play on first bos??

[oblique trail]

You play expllode

[jovial coral]

Gonna expllode all over you

[thick fossil]

Especially in Cinderbrew

And priory...

[slim coral]

Fury

Pretty much any fight with ads just play fury

[last sparrow]

yeah i really feel the target cap bullshit on priory/cinder, the big pulls at the start are so sad

[slim coral]

2 target. One arm bandit or mugzee play arms

[thick fossil]

Mug'zee gonna be big arms with the 40% enrage timer.

[gleaming siren]

10% Stam talent is giga noticable

[eternal sundial]

[heavy dock]

fury just has a lot more selfheal than arms no?

[eternal sundial]

fury has warpaint and bt

[gleaming siren]

it has perma 10% DR

[eternal sundial]

arms has 10% avoid which is less good generally

[heavy dock]

and enraged regen with unhinged active is a lot of healing

what does arms have for def cd? just die by the sword thingie?

[gleaming siren]

DTBS

Spell Reflect

Def Stance

Impending if it's not a oneshot

[heavy dock]

specific to it i mean

[gleaming siren]

Just DBTS for Enraged Regen

[heavy dock]

does that still give u 100% parry

[gleaming siren]

yes

[heavy dock]

oh speaking of, are there any cool taunt reflects this season in m+?

[undone flower]

Can they ignore pain ?

[oblique trail]

Yes but IP is garbage for Arms

[heavy dock]

probably a big dps loss i imagine

[oblique trail]

It's not

It's just a bad defensive

[gleaming siren]

You have Fueled by Violence

which is a % of your bleed

That's pretty much the same as Gushing Wound

hps wise

[undone flower]

Like being in def stance but I was more asking is it a relative good thing to use (IP) by curiosity for arms

[gleaming siren]

yea nah

just path through Fueled by Violence

[eternal sundial]

IP is poopy atm

absorbs for absolutely nothing even if you stack it

[compact siren]

Hi capybara man

Will you post a gif about a capybara today

[gleaming siren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1294680138042183711/1336057833653010472/cZdMN.gif

[remote bobcat]

does anyone have the spreadsheet with the different set piece sims? s1 4set, 2set 2set, s2 4set, no set, etc?

i cant find it

[river reef]

you are less good generally

[river reef]

my nemesis

our guild hasnt cooked the best strat yet

[eternal sundial]

eyes strategy

[unreal onyx]

Just look and play good

[clever belfry]

based on what

[river reef]

man im in africa trying to break the bomb meanwhile ranged moan about hyenas being on their ass, the rogue drives over 4 people every pull witht the ball

[oblique trail]

deez

[river reef]

i hate this fight

[clever belfry]

balls indeed

[jade cipher]

guys with delvers bounty do you need to do it in a +8 bountifull for hero track item or any delve +8 works?

[clever belfry]

any works

[narrow narwhal]

Make your raiders play katamari to prep for the fight

[river reef]

i just want to be out of this jail

i wanna start mythic but heroic bunjunker is big wall

[whole yacht]

It ain't that hard

[fading sky]

Reported

[native walrus]

obv. but dont click that shit

[fading sky]

Commnotity

Must be real

[river reef]

already redeemed

[fading sky]

Fuck

To slow

[river reef]

our fkin mage is 656 already

bro doesnt know what sleep or grass is

[fading sky]

Do keys get loot?

Im 643 though loot no drops

[narrow narwhal]

One of my guildies has done 74 keys this week

[river reef]

thats healthy

[fading sky]

30min per key

2 keys per hour... ye well 38 hours++

[eternal sundial]

that is like

not mega unheard of no?

[coarse nest]

656 is easy

[eternal sundial]

like if u just have m+ item all slots and drop tier cuz ur dumb

if ur like 550+

with tier

mega

[fading sky]

Depends on what lvl they play

[river reef]

idk bro thats pretty degenerate if you ask me im 648 in bags

[coarse nest]

Im 551 with new hero 4pc

Well champ shoulders makes 4pc

[fading sky]

551

[river reef]

if vault has a tier piece i can make 4p next reset

[fading sky]

Impressive

[daring laurel]

@tidal kindle fury owns

[coarse nest]

I’d have to double check the audit but I’m roughly 50 dungeons deep week 1

Full vault of 10s

[fading sky]

So uare a beast

Chexk

[coarse nest]

I take off work for first week of M+ though

Started doing that years ago

[fading sky]

My guild is full of shitters

So "premade" more often than npt harder than pug

[undone flower]

I have 650 ilvl with 50 ish dungeon too

[coarse nest]

Gamer!

[fading sky]

I hope 650

But ok

[coarse nest]

Pretty reasonable to do that if you got time off

[undone flower]

I got time off, the weekend

[coarse nest]

2 hours a night then yeah that’s understandable to be stuck at 640 or w/e

[fading sky]

If u got a team, or decent ppl

Its easy

[coarse nest]

I also was lucky that my tier tokens were not highly contested this tier

[radiant plank]

Hopefully everyone has done the most important vault track!

[fading sky]

Same but mine didnt drop

[undone flower]

Im a no set loser

[coarse nest]

So I got a curio and a hero token

[fading sky]

Im old tier looser

Tbh we only killed 2 bossed on hc.

[coarse nest]

Curio contested ofc but it gave me 4pc so they sent it

[fading sky]

Kek. Any 2p = 4p

[coarse nest]

We got mugz to 11% I think

And then spent the last hour killing mythic vex

[fading sky]

Sweet

Easier?

[coarse nest]

Think we 3 shot vex

It’s very easy yes

[fading sky]

Djizes. My guild needs to do that

[undone flower]

Twice more guild killed vex myth than mug heroic

[fading sky]

Kej

Vex mythic different how?

[oblique trail]

You gotta put oil into the bikes and there adds you gotta CC in the intermission

That's it

[undone flower]

Typical first boss in myth

[coarse nest]

Yup! So when the bike dies you soak a swirl and then run the “barrel” it puts on you to the bike

And our Druid just handled the add cc

Think we rooted it

[fading sky]

Now my guild wastes 1 day on normal

Then 1 day hc.

[undone flower]

Not a waste

[fading sky]

Weeell.. week 2

Semi waste

[undone flower]

Idk if it is still a waste

[fading sky]

It isnt ofc

[undone flower]

For tier or whatever your rl wants from nm

[fading sky]

Tier is always good

Im guessin he also, gets to check which ppl he wants to bring to mythix

[gleaming siren]

How are you using a whole day on normal next week

[undone flower]

1h of trash and 30min of bosses, it is still worth imo

[gleaming siren]

You can do 3 whole splits in 4 hours is what I mean

[sour frigate]

Is there a crosserver for mythic already?

[undone flower]

It is always crosserver

It’s not a thing anymore

[eternal sundial]

seek help

[fading sky]

We raid 3 hours with a break. But ye hopefully 2 hourd

[undone flower]

And you don’t really need to hurry for the myth bosses you will kill a billion times in reclears imo

[fading sky]

It is true. I just find normal mindnumbing booring

Hc somewhat same. At least hc is tightly tuned for us casuals

At least booring when guildies legit cant do trash boss

[sour frigate]

Someone told me it is

[sour frigate]

First myth drops weapon for me and its easy

[fading sky]

1hander?

[sour frigate]

Im ww

[fading sky]

Wdym, u are warrior

[solemn widget]

the Mechano-Core Amplifier drops from delves? or just chance in great vault from doing delves?

[undone flower]

Im not in the same connected realm than my guild, server ranks doesn’t mean anything for quite some time

[fading sky]

Yes to both

[feral ivy]

Delves that are bountiful+ map and vault

[solemn widget]

Okay thank you

[sour frigate]

Warrior is alt now

Kinda big one tho

[feral ivy]

Well bountiful plus map makes it heroic but yes delves

[fading sky]

Bountifull makes it champion

[feral ivy]

Bountiful tier 8 plus map **

[fading sky]

But there arent any good m+ trinkets

Well exept from floodgate

[gleaming siren]

You don't need to do a bountiful for your map

[fading sky]

Hc raiding trinkets it is

[feral ivy]

Map will always make it heroic ?

[sour frigate]

Yes

[gleaming siren]

In tier 8s yes, it's not related to bountifuls at all

[sour frigate]

U get hidden chest in reward room

[molten wing]

using the map just makes it so your next delves spawns an extra chest for the hc loot just make sure its a 8

[bitter palm]

so annoying

[fading sky]

100%

[feral ivy]

Ah ok ok

[fading sky]

So many trinkets in the pooø

All shit exept 1

[bitter palm]

need house of cards im pretty sure

for m+ at least

[quiet breach]

dude so many goddamn trinkets dropped in my raid

[fading sky]

Rezan?

[bitter palm]

on use is massive

[quiet breach]

why is so much of the loot trinkets

[gleaming siren]

Wrong expansion

[fading sky]

U have bis as on usd

[quiet breach]

I got one tho

[fading sky]

Keza

[bitter palm]

kezan

fuck that

[quiet breach]

the one where u throw a motorcycle

[bitter palm]

ows all over again

[fading sky]

Ows = love

[bitter palm]

begging ur tank to chain pull

[fading sky]

Well i mainly raid so kezan + bis mythic once 11.5 hits

Though bis being on a 2m cd is annoying

[bitter palm]

im using signet rn

from priory

its so cringe

2min

[eternal sundial]

BIS is chill asf on fury

[fading sky]

Ofc

[eternal sundial]

just send with random set of cds

[fading sky]

Am

[bitter palm]

stix bunkjorker

is too hard

[stiff barn]

I find him annoying

[torpid elbow]

yes didn't do a bountiful and got a hero piece

[gaunt egret]

Will fury get gutted with nerfs again? XD its seems like they are doing amazing in raid and this is bringing back some deja vu from season 1 XD

[frank dawn]

Hopefully blizzard won’t make dog shit decisions since our tier bonus is dog shit

[summer quail]

doubt it. not doing particularly well in mythic atm

[torpid elbow]

i dont like the tier bonus either i think it needs a rework

[summer quail]

small sample size tho

[frank dawn]

It’s not even really about the gameplay. It’s just hella weak

[torpid elbow]

tht 15% is awful tho

15% to end winning streak..

[warm crag]

cant wait for the 2 funny bosses that turn into dps races suspiciously when the enemy health bar becomes 35%

[frank dawn]

Ours is 3-4% when other classes bonus is 8-15%

[quiet breach]

a piece from a +6 is just as good as a piece from a +10 if u upgrade it all the way right?

[summer quail]

STOP DPS STOP DPS

[warm crag]

you will press ravager on slayer arms

mind control

[bitter palm]

ravager is locked on those bosses

it absolutely fucks in execute

[warm crag]

should be ye i think +6 is hc track

[bitter palm]

ye 6 hero

[torpid elbow]

i thought 7 was good to know

[bitter palm]

652 i think

wait no

649

[stiff barn]

7 is for crests

[dusk dawn]

Will a mythic weapon from M+ vault be better than BiS and Capital Punishment heroic raid versions?

for fury

[restive peak]

Competitive

But yeah you'd probably want mythic MH+BIS OH early

[hushed walrus]

Guys below 35% does bloodthirst get the priority on raging blow ?

[restive peak]

You still wanna keep RB CD rolling

[hushed walrus]

Sure but with the 2 points talents +50% damage below 35% i was thinking maybe press bloodthirst first

[restive peak]

Keep RB on CD + buffs crit chance of BT, BT has a CD anyway

[quiet breach]

so +6-+10 gear is better than any normal mode raid gear except gallywix gear and maybe tier?

[restive peak]

Rotationally it moves up a bit on prio, yeah, you don't wait for 85%+ crit anymore 35-0

[quiet breach]

is this a correct assumption

[restive peak]

I mean yes and no, trinkets from raid are good

[bitter palm]

i think its got more to do

[quiet breach]

does ilvl of trinkets matter less than ilvl of other slots of gear?

[bitter palm]

with m+ trinekts being shit

apart from floodgate

[chilly elbow]

Anyone sitting on the best ability prio depents on rage, buffs/debuffs ?

[restive peak]

I mean you can just farm 10s, then free upgrade everything to 655

That's what I did

[bitter palm]

idk what happened with viscera

it was so shit in sl

now its simming decently high

[chilly fractal]

I fear I wasted my weekend farming Cinderbrews instead

[restive peak]

xD

[warm crag]

normal and hc track items are kind of equivalent rn since you dont wanna burn gilded crests on non permanent items

[quiet breach]

but later in the season won't we have plenty of guilded crests to use on whatever we want? I haven't even gotten a single one yet and the cap is about to double next week

[fickle cedar]

the goal is to upgrade your permanent myth track items as soon as you can, if you use them on temporal hc items you wont have enough and it may slow you down a couple of weeks down the line, up to you though

[bitter palm]

lets say u get a myth tier chest in vault

u want to send crests on that

biggest stat budget

• bis

[undone flower]

And you won’t have enough crests for each spark

[quiet breach]

what if myth tier chest has dookie stats like crit vers

[covert blaze]

let's say my network was compromised
what should i do?

[bitter palm]

download mcafee antivirus

[bitter palm]

irrelevant

[quiet breach]

so just send the upgrades anyway?

[undone flower]

On myth track

[bitter palm]

ye if u get a bis piece

send it

[fickle cedar]

you're gonna catalyst the chest anyway, also strength is the main reason, chest/head/pants give the most

[quiet breach]

catalyst the chest? what's that

[bitter palm]

transform it into a tier piece

changing the stats to tier set chest

[quiet breach]

ah

do u need spark for that

[undone flower]

Nop you need catalyst charge

You have 1 right now and a second if 2k m+ score

[bitter palm]

or hc gallyvix

do we get third tomorrow or half spark

[undone flower]

Does hc give one more or its the same ?

[bitter palm]

next week

[bitter palm]

hc gally OR 2k rating

[quiet breach]

just googled it, catalyst charges automatically are applied to your currency tab every 2 weeks or do u need to do quest?

[undone flower]

Automated

[bitter palm]

u get one every 2 weeks

and u get one for clearing heroic raid OR getting 2k m+ rating

[quiet breach]

do I catalyst the chest THEN upgrade or does it not matter

[undone flower]

Doesn’t matter

But wait maybe the reset if you are thinking of using it right now

[fickle cedar]

although remember, if you catalyst a heroic chest its gonna be a hc tier set, so preferable only cata myth items, although it depends on your goals and all

[bitter palm]

always wait next reset

[quiet breach]

how much does a +10 carry cost

[undone flower]

1m I think

[summer quail]

If you're going into mythic this week, there could be merit in cataing now

[quiet breach]

I have like 623 ilvl lol I ain't doin that yet

[quiet breach]

welp guess I won't get mythic track item this week

[undone flower]

No need to rush, you have 5 months to play ^^

[warm crag]

find some friends or a guild to push with

you shouldnt feel the need to buy a boost to clear a 10

[covert blaze]

hello @warm crag

[warm crag]

hello ya zhai

ya snitch

[covert blaze]

did you get any good gear

[bitter palm]

he gets all the loot funneled ofc he has insane gear

cluegi

[covert blaze]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898720803586048/1253376142111674378/piabuse-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[open otter]

Hey guess! How about our cooldowns? are we always trying to linup bladestorm with recklessness and avatar if possible? Or just click when available since we're playing with berserker's torment?

[clever belfry]

fav number?

[clever belfry]

hrothmar u cant say this

[slim coral]

Basically you just send cds when they come up unless a damage amp is about to happen or cds are within a few seconds of each other

[slim coral]

Anda have you seen the new plate and 2 handers in 11.1.5

They’re sick asf

[clever belfry]

no

[chrome summit]

Are ppl playing bs over ravager in mplus?

[clever belfry]

its mythic week

i have better things to do than look at ptr

[fickle cedar]

if you're playing slayer you go bs, if thane its rava

[chrome summit]

Y im thane. In burst when do you use ravager? After avatar/ reck?

[chrome summit]

Feels like it takes so long to activate it sometimes. Stuff dead before we Rolling

[clever belfry]

sword looks okay

mog is ass

[slim coral]

Use all at once

[undone flower]

Nuke button

[chrome summit]

You use macro with ravager also?

[fickle bluff]

Explode

[clever belfry]

silence cyan spongie

[fickle bluff]

(If you're talking about the white one)

[slim coral]

on mouse or on player ye

[clever belfry]

think its mid

[slim coral]

[chrome summit]

With a avatar Nd reck? Could u post pls if not too annoying

[slim coral]

#showtooltip
/cast [@cursor] Ravager

[chrome relic]

Fury good guys

👍🏾

I was arms for exactly 8 days!

[undone flower]

#showtooltip
/yell Chibre
/cast Recklessness
/cast Avatar
/cast [@cursor] Ravager

[chrome summit]

Ty. Will keep the yell

XD

[undone flower]

Don’t get mad at me if you get in trouble

[red peak]

Just a query, when do we break S1 set bonus. is it generally an ASAP? not exactly sure how to sim it without catalysing some bits i have

[earnest canyon]

You can tell the sim that you have charges available

[vapid spade]

basicly 2p/2p is worth the change as far as i know. breaking s1 set without any new pieces isn't worth it i guess 🤔

[undone flower]

Worth the change or worth the catalyst charge is a different question

[vapid spade]

worth the change, worth the catalyst charge is dependent on which content one would like to run/ have the option to do

[undone flower]

Yes, bc if you used your charges this week you could have missed a catalysted myth track on the vault or 4 p

[gusty fern]

hey guys
can i sim void elf vs dwarf in raid bot ?

[undone flower]

If you have 1 tier from raid and 1 from vault tomorrow and still 2 charges you have 4 p tomorrow

[chilly fractal]

Imagine

That’s too many ifs

[warm crag]

#fury message

[vapid spade]

how two charges? isn't there only one charge and next comes in two weaks?

[undone flower]

9 slots on the vault, it should be okay right ?

[chilly fractal]

2k score

[warm crag]

you get a second charge if you hit 2k score/curve/some pvp rating

[vapid spade]

no token for 2k etc.?

[warm crag]

no you get a cata charge instead

[vapid spade]

guess i missed that change xD

[warm crag]

wasnt exactly advertised well

[chilly fractal]

Myth track weapon or good trinket too would prolly take over tier

[undone flower]

Yep but you never know it can be 3 myth cloaks or a chest

[chilly fractal]

I know that’s why I said too many ifs

[undone flower]

So with so many if, it is better to not do anything

[vapid spade]

or getting 4 pairs of gloves -.-

[chilly fractal]

We should all make a pact

We all do nothing

[undone flower]

I don’t need a pact I still have my 2 charges on my dk and my war

[vapid spade]

One charge and a dream 😅

[undone flower]

It is a bet, if you win it’s good dw too much

[twin oasis]

How is the tier pc this patch for fury? I heard some classes still use old tiers

[olive wraith]

Our tier is one of the worst bonuses

But it’s still better than running s1 cause ilvl

[fierce tapir]

Thinking of coming back with the new patch. How does warrior feel?

[summer quail]

anyone have a clue why revvez does this?

[olive wraith]

Warrior good

[undone flower]

The reequip jostor ? Idk in the RWF they switch the slots every pull

[fierce tapir]

How is the damage output looking compared to other classes?

[summer quail]

yeah the reequip jastor

[eternal sundial]

prolly bugs out otherwise

[olive wraith]

Don’t worry about other classes

Warrior good

[bitter palm]

easiest delve

what is it

i need to farm +8

[eternal sundial]

idk

i refuse to delv

[bitter palm]

@warm crag easiest and fastest delve

[coral salmon]

Are we still using patchwerk 1 target sim for m+ or something else?

[winter shoal]

Dread pit on some days takes like 3 mins

Same with takrethan abyss

Other days they stink though wcyd

[eternal sundial]

@bitter palmwas velf simbis now nor

i forgor

for both spec

[fickle bluff]

Him fungular folly

[eternal sundial]

[fickle bluff]

[warm crag]

google google

[eager thorn]

the new one @ south of ringing deeps is p fast

and easy

[warm crag]

this is not true

[eager thorn]

idk ive been doing runs in like 8 mins

not sure what would take you any longer

[warm crag]

the one where you gotta drill and defend the drill?

idk there was a delve that took legit like 3 minutes but it rotated away

[fringe flame]

There's one in the Underkeep where those big bug hulks run around and damage the mobs idk if it's up today, but that one is not the fastest, but it's easy cause those hulks chunk the enemies. breezed through to t11.

[eager thorn]

idk about that one i had one where you just had to rescue workers or smth

which was just kill a pack > interact > move on

[fringe flame]

There's another underkeep one that's pretty fast as well cause you only need to go in like 3 rooms.

[eager thorn]

boss at the end was like a head and 4 tentacles

[undone flower]

There is the undermined delve but in s1 kobold zone that’s is quick

Idk what is the event/thing inside now

[eager thorn]

i forgot theres different versions of each delve tbh been free of them for a while

[undone flower]

I did 1 for the spark world soul quest and this one surprised me how quick it was

[bitter palm]

simbis

for arms in everything

except aoe slayer iirc

and its top 2 for fury

nvm its simbix for everything arms

arms on the left fury on the right

the uptime on the racial is disgusting

[warm crag]

race changing immediately

[bitter palm]

5% dmg increase

we go again

[eternal sundial]

human is unusable

i must become nightelf

[grand condor]

is the fury tier bug still live?

[warm crag]

no

[warm crag]

you fool i racechanged to velf in aberrus because my guild violently forced me to

[eternal sundial]

can you go back to her

for sl classsic

[warm crag]

i must

[eternal sundial]

I require you to

[warm crag]

can u imagine her sanctum blasting the nine

[bitter palm]

[eternal sundial]

idk my char was like

orc for half its lifetime

now human for 2nd half

[warm crag]

most interesting warrior player race choices

[fluid cedar]

revvez running no embellishment?

[eternal sundial]

surely

[eternal sundial]

it started as a pvp char

so orc was mandatory

[warm crag]

he doesn't need to craft yet/crests were better off used elsewhere/he didnt feel like it/idk man

[eternal sundial]

which is why im considering changing again

[warm crag]

idk go velf

good animations can do belf colours now

[eternal sundial]

whats the argument over nelf if keystone frog tho

then again alliance tabards

[heavy dock]

hey guys which boss/es in the raid are pure single target?

[eternal sundial]

warcraftlogs -> check top 100 and look for ww talents

incredible hack cuz i dont remember

[chilly fractal]

Sprocket

[heavy dock]

thank you

it was hard i know

[warm crag]

rix on normal !!!!

[chilly fractal]

That’s about it

[eternal sundial]

bandit kinda

[bitter palm]

giga racial

now that u can actually see it

(cope)

argument is more dam idk

velf fucks

[warm crag]

idk i dont know where you'd use it in the current raid

[bitter palm]

m+

talk

[warm crag]

no one is talking about m+ right now

[bitter palm]

.

[heavy dock]

im doing in on normal rn first time

[warm crag]

am i right @eternal sundial

[bitter palm]

one more delve and im full 8

i am free soon

[eternal sundial]

my condolences

[warm crag]

one more delve and you can google google

[bitter palm]

i think

this is huge

no

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/937179772138688652/1282084481079181485/togif.gif

[warm crag]

i think you are coping out of your mind

[bitter palm]

CANNOT BE WORSE

THAN GRIM CODEX

AT SAME ILVL

[heavy dock]

this shit's really simming 2 on use trinks over the 626 sac

[eternal sundial]

aquire 639 sack

[bitter palm]

ballsack

[warm crag]

noob if you dont have 639 sacbrood

[heavy dock]

i stopped playing m+ in december

[eternal sundial]

im so glad my char is powerful

[coarse nest]

Skarmorak shard too op

[bitter palm]

remove this from my screen

[coarse nest]

Don’t want to replace until house of cards

[sly bobcat]

Hooooooly

Green and blue games

Gamer

[eternal sundial]

even better

mop remix greens

[coarse nest]

His color settings are off that’s all

That’s actually bis epics

Addon out of date for ilvl display

[vale reef]

👀

[coarse nest]

Big!

Still haven’t gotten one

[quiet breach]

why do people say not to craft the wep if you get myth track wep from vault? can't u craft it and just have 2 op weps?

[winter shoal]

I've gotten 3 but each were sequentially higher ilvl so I couldn't trade

Feelsbadman for the others on my group

[fast mural]

so close

[winter shoal]

Nobody says this

[winter shoal]

Well, nobody in #fury says this