fury

[clever belfry]

think on some vendor close to bran 🤷‍♂️

[fading sky]

U can buy map?

[sudden tusk]

auction house for 20k or 2k undercoins from merlok guy

[fading sky]

Or the boss to fight

[sudden tusk]

item called the wave scrambler 2000 i beleive

[open mountain]

btw just saw in the top rio guys that they take "unbridled ferocity" => is a 2% gain for me too, was not in the standard mythic+ build selected

[bright sable]

no you buy a thing that calls in the miniboss so you get the map

[sudden tusk]

summons the underpin boss in a delv which gives you 1 map a week

[fading sky]

Feck havent got coins dor that

Guess imma do delvied

[clever belfry]

how tf do u have less than 2k

[sudden tusk]

its on the AH for like 20-30k

[bright sable]

what do you swap out?

[fading sky]

Hm tempting

[open mountain]

one point deft experience

[sudden tusk]

idk that talent blows

pure rng might sim well but its not consistant

some keys you might gain damage some you might lose damage

ass

[clever belfry]

deft is nice for the slaughter FB tech

but u dont play slayer soo

who cares

[sudden tusk]

we will all be playing arms with tier anyway

it blows fury out of the water in M+

in raid it has its uses

[keen dove]

how people do reck-charge-rampage on opener in raid bosses?

u do only get around 50 rage no?

[open mountain]

it sims lower for me currently, maybe with set and crit/haste gear 😄

[clever belfry]

even without tier arms just does more in most keys

but with tier its just

not close

[fading sky]

In raid is fury

On some bosses

[oblique trail]

Reck -> Avatar-> charge is 80 rage

Just don't do it pre pull

[sudden tusk]

Reck gives 100% rage with talent activates avatar. avatar generates 10 rage which turns to 20 from the activation. Charge then generated 40 rage putting you at 60 range. Second manual cast of avatar generates another 20 rage giving you 80 rage so you can rampage. then you rampage into bladestorm RB spam til out then rampage

[keen dove]

cool cool

[hidden kite]

So fury is better than arms?

[keen dove]

thanks

[sudden tusk]

both have different applications

so they are both very good, but it depends on the fight

in raid you can fury or arms until One armed/ Mugzee then arms will be better becuase of execute damage (at least thats what i think rn, not sure of actual execute sims fury vs arms)

[hidden kite]

I see logs class balance, i believe what i see without any second thought

[runic violet]

The farming is driving me crazy...

no damn loot XD

[sudden tusk]

@radiant plank was there ever sims done on pure execute phase after the 15% nerf to arms exe

in arms vs fury

[runic violet]

What's an easy delve

[sudden tusk]

earthcraler mines

is my goto

[covert blaze]

@sudden tusk do you have 4p

[runic violet]

does it have to be bountiful?

[sudden tusk]

i have 0p

[runic violet]

I have the map.

[covert blaze]

noob!!!

[sudden tusk]

bountiful doesnt matter, just has to be at least T8 delve to get hidden chest for hero track

most people just do bountiful becuase why not

[runic violet]

so.. as long as you have the map, any delve, i can get a hero track

[summer quail]

the new one is really easy

[heavy galleon]

Do you wait to craft 2H weapons ?

[runic violet]

yea I think it's really easy but it's not bountiful for me at the moment..

[summer quail]

don't need to be bountiful for map

[runic violet]

oh

ok

[radiant plank]

yeah arms is 400k ahead

in 3min sim

[runic violet]

arms that much stronger?

I just can't get into arms rotation in this expansion.

feels clunky

[sudden tusk]

roger ty

[sudden tusk]

its less about arms being stronger and more that arms does its job better

[runic violet]

what do u mean

[sudden tusk]

One armed banit and Mugzee do not have a hard enrage timer, but have dedicated execute phases where if the boss doesnt die in X amount of time he kills your whole raid

arms might do mid damage most of the fight but if it does that much more in execute its the right tool for the job so to speak

[tawdry meteor]

how is fury in m+ ? is it a viable option? I always play fury but I heard arms is better, though I dont like the rotation

[next ruin]

You can play it, thane feels like a lot more damage than slayer

[hardy wyvern]

Thane is still the play in m+?

[sudden tusk]

am Thane for M+

[tidal kindle]

So I was right, avatar does give you 20 > 40 rage

[tidal kindle]

Just asked wally this and he said it was arms > fury by 400k in exe

But I assume that's at end tier profiles

[mossy fox]

ye exe sims was done at some point i remember, 400k sounds about right

[tidal kindle]

But I mean

Just look at that

[mossy fox]

vicious contempt execute 🤡

wonder how thane's execute looks since BT has 25% amp in hero tree

• burst of power

[tidal kindle]

https://tenor.com/b0oe8.gif

[tidal kindle]

Oh he replied, I just backread

Saw revvez running fatality on a heroic mug

Maybe he cookin

📈

Since their enrage phase starts at 40%

And fatal procs at 30

[mossy fox]

sounds like value

what does he drop, i guess the bb point that usually goes to imp ss goes to fatality instead?

[tidal kindle]

Yah it was BB node

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/gRADaZVmK2qPnbfG?fight=17&type=summary&source=9

Mug log not public

But here's the 1arm same char

Surely there is no way

These rings don't have some form of fall off/shatter mechanic

In mythic

..shorely

[summer quail]

fatal mark 1.16%

xD

[tidal kindle]

Are you on pc

Can you set the log filter to last 40%

[summer quail]

idk how to set filter to percentages

but yes on pc

[tidal kindle]

Ih

Uh

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/gRADaZVmK2qPnbfG?fight=17&type=resources&hostility=1&start=2653061&end=3065021

Go here

Select on the hp window 40% -0

Simple way

Idr the exact query off top of my head

[tidal kindle]

And then swap to friendlies > damage tab ofc

[sudden tusk]

I GOT BOOTS GARM<S

IM FREE

[tidal kindle]

[summer quail]

uhh i see the graph of his hp but don't see a place where ican set his p

hp

[tidal kindle]

Just click and drag

On grah

If you mouseover the line itll tooltip hp values

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/finished-elijah-wood-lord-of-the-rings-lava-fire-gif-5894611

[summer quail]

ahh i gotchu

2.78%

[sudden tusk]

prob better then a point in BB

even without minmaxxing

or well

hmm

[tidal kindle]

Theres no adds in last bit are there

[summer quail]

his fatal mark wasn't in cs or avatar either. 1 second off cs according to log

[tidal kindle]

Dont think its amped by those still

[summer quail]

unless something has changed since ptr, it is

@radiant plank can you confirm

[tidal kindle]

O

[radiant plank]

it should be amped still

[mossy fox]

wtf is your gear if your droptimizer looks like this

[summer quail]

barely not amped by cs

[radiant plank]

Mine looks the same

[sudden tusk]

its a bit cheese becuase its 652

becuase i cant pug farm 10s

[mossy fox]

aha

[radiant plank]

I have 1 offpiece, wep,ring

[mossy fox]

any cinderbrew necks on the chat

[radiant plank]

embellishments+tier takes the rest

[radiant plank]

fury moment

[summer quail]

ey crit is your trinket tracker default part of your WA package? i saw you tracking the floodgate trinket, just got it myself

[sudden tusk]

im at about 56 M+ dungeons i think

[red berry]

cinderbrew neck was one of my first key drops

hero track

still no weapon tho

[junior knoll]

guys quick question, do we still want to proritize sending BT on AOE, or is it better to still stack Bloodcraze?

[next ruin]

I hope someone cooks a mountain thane VC and RA execute build

Bloodbath exec

[warm crag]

be the change you wish to see

[fading sky]

Doing a 10 cleft

Thane is good r?

[lean hamlet]

guys what stats should my crafted items be, I see vers/mastery on wowhead but it also says BiS stats are mastery / haste

[tardy lark]

Have to get out of bed first

[oblique trail]

[tidal kindle]

I got him

[next ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-inspiration-i-need-evan-raynr-raynday-gaming-i-needed-that-inspiration-thats-what-i-needed-gif-25240390

[tardy lark]

https://tenor.com/view/you-dropped-this-king-you-dropped-this-queen-you-dropped-this-you-dropped-this-king-meme-you-dropped-this-meme-gif-25206668

[surreal token]

do u know if that's separate from a natty map drop?

[sudden tusk]

p sure natty or summon its 1 a week

from the underpin guy at least

you might be able to get more from a rng bountiful box?

[surreal token]

My bad, I didn't word it right.

If I already got a natty one this week - can I still get another map from that item

[sudden tusk]

no

[surreal token]

rip

i see people with the trinket

meanwhile I'm getting some bullshit

i've been super unlucky w/ dungeon loot this week

they need to bring back 3 items per dungeon or something

[left tapir]

guys wich tear do i cata

so im getting ksm plus the catalyst charge

should i go head/shoulders ?

[glad coyote]

dont cata anything until tuesday/vault

unless you have 3 heroic pieces already and need a 4th from m+

i wouldnt cata anything until tuesday once vault comes to see what you got

[left tapir]

i see

[south kayak]

What does 2k give you?

a Cata charge?

So I have one now, with 2k, i'll get 2?

[glad coyote]

2k gives 2nd cata charge this week

[south kayak]

ok

cata charges are every other week, correct?

[glad coyote]

believe so

[left tapir]

2k gives you the token to get a tier

oh nvm it just gives a cata charge

[fading sky]

What trinket?

Ngl weapon being a 2m cd is annoying

[azure holly]

in slayer m+ build, does it make sense to WW before BS?
the idea is that it'll make it easier for your RB (for stacking rampage) to cleave already

[summer quail]

Doubt it really matters anyway. Do whichever you prefer

[merry zinc]

Anyone not enjoying MT on m+? How is Slayer feeling?

[echo crater]

Hey guys, when will we get the second spark ?

[sand crest]

in two weeks

we always get half a spark a week, that hasnt changed

[stiff barn]

Mechano core amplifier on first map , lets go

[valid leaf]

so quick question, just picked up fury this season, it says to pop reck and avatar before you pull then charge in and use rampage but I don't seem to have enough fury to do that. Am i doing something wrong?

[stiff barn]

you use it before charging in , that gives you enough rage to rampage

[valid leaf]

but its not giving me enough to use rampage

[eternal sundial]

Are you ava reck or reck avaing

[valid leaf]

this is my macro /Cast Avatar
/Cast Recklessness
/Use 14
/Use Tempered Potion

i see now haha

[eternal sundial]

Try swap reck and ava for shits n giggles

But idk what order my macro is in

Ngl

[valid leaf]

yeah that fixed it haha

[sand crest]

having potion on the macro for bosses where you dont lust on pull is kinda bad

[valid leaf]

ty

I have one with pot and one without

[sand crest]

gucci

[fringe nova]

Hey with the new set can we drop revanger and go for bladestorm 😄 ?

[eternal sundial]

Depends if ur slayer or thane

[fringe nova]

ahm for m+ also thane

[balmy shore]

im sat to watch revvez

ok nvm\

nvm my nvm

[eternal sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/im-sat-gif-18417228468194968422

Walli too

[runic violet]

How high delve lvl u guys go?

Wonder if I can handle 11

currently 640

[eternal sundial]

Isnt loot the same 8+

[runic violet]

It's for the crest

11 rewards a special chest for gilded crests

[left jacinth]

I did 11s as Prot at like 620 and Brann healing without too much difficulty. Not sure about Fury specifically.

[runic violet]

ok im going to attempt later

[fading sky]

I mean do u truly need gilded this week?

Those 11s arent bonus ones still count towards cap r?

[kindred grail]

Yo guys does anyone know if we get a catalyst charge next week ?

[left jacinth]

You can only get 21 gilded a week from delves. So if you aren't doing other content that rewards them, then yeah, probably want to get them this week from the delves.

[fading sky]

True, but do u truly need em now

If u only do delves

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-world-alive-emote-raptor-si-mizu-mizu-jwa-gif-21476416

[left jacinth]

If you only do delves, and don't do the 3x tier 11s this week, you will miss out on 21 gilded crests for this season. There currently isn't a catchup that I'm aware of.

Up to you to decide if you "truly need" them

[bitter palm]

m+ got gutted

just do 7s

prob easier than delves

[fading sky]

Y

I mean. Delves are solo content

[cursive pivot]

I’m doing them because you can only get 21 from them this week. Might as well get them. I don’t have hero gear yet to max and only like 641.

And have only done up to a M+4

[fading sky]

If u enjoy delves do em

If its gearing and u plan on doin 7s in m+

U can just wait until geared

Cap is 90 additional per week.

[gleaming siren]

@oblique trail GOOD morning my beautiful balls prince

[nimble ibex]

what weapon enchant should we use storm or depths

[lost saffron]

why is storm the other choice

[nimble ibex]

or whats the best one im not sure

[lost saffron]

sim it

most likely depths though

[radiant plank]

all the stat enchants kinda close tho..

[lost saffron]

yeh

thats why you should sim

[radiant plank]

if adds and proc

insane value

kabom

[lost saffron]

yes

[nimble ibex]

i mostly play m plus didnt know if sim was more cause single target'

[lost saffron]

you can sim aoe

🤷‍♂️

[nimble ibex]

yeah depts sims higer in dungeon slice to thanks

[lost saffron]

i dont recommend dungeon slice

but well people have differing opinions on it

[half island]

fo we break S1 4pc when you get S2 2 pc or wait till S2 4pc

[mint obsidian]

easier to find groups pugs as war or as pala u think?

[feral ivy]

So from what I’m understanding for the rotation in keys MT when you throw ravager just do ramp and BT? and outside cd just RB BT Ramp? And TB when it procs and tc for my stacks

[marble schooner]

this shit good right? macro with reck and just pop it on cd

like not amazing good but good enough(?)

[mint obsidian]

btw with tier pieces does the rotation of fury change?

[marble schooner]

no

[mint obsidian]

oki 🙂

[marble schooner]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vr2iQqcfJELTvBirfUjxDQ

aight what would yall do here

could I macro both trinkets to Reck and just do Signet first then Skarmorak on the same macro? does that work?

elp

[sly crane]

probably wont work

go test if it does on a dummy

[marble schooner]

seems like it works huh

[sage karma]

Any talent swaps I need if I want to run RA instead of AM?

[earnest canyon]

i didnt change anything else but im playing thane

[sage karma]

yeah just talking about M+ as thane

[dapper goblet]

madox for yellow

[quaint stag]

Does the cyrces circlet ilvl thing still work?

[past pivot]

Yes. https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1234949058121171069

[quaint stag]

Meant the sell the ring get a new one then equip both the unscocketed and socketed in slots to get the free 658 upgrade

[sage ridge]

Is the Grim Codex trinket actually any good

Just looted it from TOP

[marble schooner]

ppl were saying it does

[quaint stag]

yeah just done it, still works. got my ring to 658 with no crests used

[sly bobcat]

any1 know what the blue cd text is in Archimtiros' bloodthirst crit track WA?

[earnest canyon]

They tend to punish power exploits... But idk about that one as it doesn't seem huge like getting free crests or whatever

[quaint stag]

They only fixed the crafted ring/1h crest save this patch so don’t thing they’ll punish it when it went unmentioned since last expansion

[earnest canyon]

Fair enough, I would rather not risk it but I don't mind those that do. Free ilevel is free ilevel lol

[sly bobcat]

ohh its gushing wound trackjer

[chilly fractal]

Gush gush

[oblique trail]

If they did, they'd have to punish thousands of people, which is unlikely at this point

[earnest canyon]

i mean they do that all the time, but for the ring? very much doubt it yeah

[clever belfry]

they have been horrible at banning people for small exploits

for

decades

[earnest canyon]

did you have to reget all your gems after deleting the ring?

[oblique trail]

If you were dumb and kept them in when you deleted them, yes

But you can just buy them from the vendors

[earnest canyon]

oh i didnt even know u can remove them....thats how dumb i am

[oblique trail]

well the ring would be quite impractical if you couldn't remove gems from it

[earnest canyon]

i thought you would just replace them like normal gems....never really thought about it

speaking of gems in it, is this still correct as per wowhead?
Singing Sea Citrine: Fathomdweller's Runed Citrine Fathomdweller's Runed Citrine
Singing Thunder Citrine: Thunderlord's Crackling Citrine Thunderlord's Crackling Citrine for single target or Stormbringer's Runed Citrine Stormbringer's Runed Citrine in sustained multitarget
Singing Wind Citrine: Legendary Skipper's Citrine Legendary Skipper's Citrine

[oblique trail]

replace legendary skipper with windsinger

[earnest canyon]

raidbots still says skipper is better....is it bugged?

[oblique trail]

It's not bugged

The value of windsinger also depends on which stat it increases

[earnest canyon]

what does it do?

[marble schooner]

increases highest secondary

so it gives you more damage if mastery is your highest vs haste id guess

[earnest canyon]

yeah mastery is my highest

[mint obsidian]

as fury is ez to do delves solo?

[earnest canyon]

jesus 49% mastery now

[oblique trail]

yes

[mint obsidian]

reattt

easier than arms yeah?

[oblique trail]

delves in general are easy

but Fury generally easier to solo stuff with sure

[kind bolt]

is this good mountain thane ability distribution?

in m+

[golden sleet]

hi all, got asked by my RL to go warrior since ours quit this season and I dabbled a bit in season 1. have there been any big rotational changes since last season, and is there a preferred WA for helping keep track of blood craze/slaughter strikes/marked for execution stacks?

[spare steppe]

lots of options for WA on wago depending on how much or little you want in a WA

[oblique trail]

Don't worry about bloodcraze and slaughtering strikes, and most packs should already include marked

[golden sleet]

is it not important to min/max for damage on mythic bosses?

[oblique trail]

It's not

[golden sleet]

word thank you

[misty shell]

whats up with the slayer mt tallents? im using the opener recklessness, avatar, bladestorm yet the cooldown on reck and bladestorm just desync

[clever belfry]

marked for execution

Gives u 5s BS cdr per stack if u pop it with exe

[misty shell]

aha i see it first time playing the tallents thanks

[charred panther]

sell your current one and a vednor will sell you another at 658?>

where do u get the new one?

after you sell it?

[azure holly]

I just realized that you can proc your exe marks by cleaving with ww

good way to save juggernaut stacks particularly if you don't have sudden death

[regal falcon]

Is it worth breaking s1 4p for s2 2p?

[bitter palm]

sim

[inland totem]

ya

[clever belfry]

but likely yes unless its turbo F ilvl

[earnest canyon]

do warriors tend to not just sim everything? I have seen many many people asking about stat priority, tier sets, trinkets etc

makes me wonder if the apl is bad or something

[warm crag]

good players sim everything

[earnest canyon]

i sim everything but im very bad 🤣

i just now for some specs the sims arent the best

*know

[warm crag]

all the specs should be well maintained

[earnest canyon]

hmm ok

[warm crag]

ppl of every class and spec go into class discords and ask for stat weights its just how they learned to gear shrug

[earnest canyon]

ive been simming since you had to sim locally on RAWR and it could be a shit shoot sometimes

[clever belfry]

warlock :

[sour frigate]

warrior:

[serene kraken]

is our tier set big for us

[clever belfry]

no 👍

[kindred swallow]

hey guys, havent touched my warrior since like the middle of season one, is mountain thane still the better option for m+? how far is slayer from it?

[arctic salmon]

is arms 5 target hard capped like fury?

[sage ridge]

No

Most of their damage in aoe come from Cleave

[arctic salmon]

ty

[earnest canyon]

do we know why RWF warrs are playing fury over arms?

not complaining, i just thought arms did more damage

[forest owl]

cause only chads play fury

[sudden tusk]

its based on execute phase

Fury didnt get nerf and arms did when they were neck and neck

so bosses like one armed/mugzee will be arms fights

[earnest canyon]

oh i see....thanks

[sudden tusk]

but until then fury just preforms better on these easierbosses

[earnest canyon]

what about aoe add fights?

[sudden tusk]

fury loses very little ST to do aoe

so bosses like rick/stix will be good for fury

[earnest canyon]

ok thanks for the info

[clever belfry]

Also fury just lives easier

If two specs do same st u play the one that just makes it easier to play game

[earnest canyon]

yeah thats why i asked....rwf player would play the spec that did 0.1% more dps unless the other spec was way way more tanky

i just play fury cos i find it more fun

[forest owl]

fury is always bis, getting to bonk stuff with 2 sticks instead of 1? bargain

[clever belfry]

2x 2h > 1x 2h, ∀ h > 0

[past pivot]

Fury is a little more tanky at this stage and players may be more stat-oriented toward Fury. We'll see how the distribution changes once players gear up for this season.

[restive peak]

Arms is worse for cleave and for everything except execute, that's why

Madox hit the nail on the head

You might even play fury for one armed/mugzee depending on how rough the healing is, the execute gap isn't THAT massive anymore even

Still def leans arms, but arms isn't actually "higher ST" now, it's just higher 35-0

[sage karma]

what I want to know is how much is me parsing 40 on a +7 due to my 630 weapons

I thought I was good at fury

[cunning tusk]

M+ parse means nothing

[unreal onyx]

these good?

[gleaming siren]

7

I hate nerds

[gleaming siren]

Why is that not a Mechano-Core Amplifier Hero

[clever belfry]

ok mr math undergrad cs grad

[gleaming siren]

ok bro don't have to hear this from someone that used to study physics

[clever belfry]

physics and cs

💀

[unreal onyx]

idk what that even is

[gleaming siren]

💀

[unreal onyx]

physics and counter strike goated

[gleaming siren]

Delve trinket

[nocturne oyster]

Guys, are fury still viable compared to Arms in m+ or should i be changeing my spec?

[gleaming siren]

Arms pretty solidly ahead most keys

[unreal onyx]

aintnoway I am doing delves

[clever belfry]

delves has

insane trinkets this time

[slim grotto]

How do you buy the 2nd cyrce's cirlet gamers?

[clever belfry]

kinda cant skip it imo.

[gleaming siren]

This thing at Hero literally competes with the best Mythic ilvl trinkets

and beats them a lot of the time

[nocturne oyster]

😦

[earnest canyon]

delves are amazing if you WFH.....you can afk for 10mins and then just carry on

[gleaming siren]

Fury is okay

[clever belfry]

@gleaming siren come over i bought a crate of astra

[gleaming siren]

Hoooly

I have a crate of Spezi zero

no liquid calories

[clever belfry]

gg!

[gleaming siren]

I lost like 7 kilos already

[clever belfry]

king

[unreal onyx]

is radiant power the new best enchant?

[clever belfry]

if i lost 7kg id be underweight

[gleaming siren]

(just many more to go)

[unreal onyx]

sims the best consistently for me

[gleaming siren]

still very overweight unfortunately but working on it

[tidal kindle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1347513742933626950/image.png?ex=67cd6af7&is=67cc1977&hm=37456e3f6d00e36f2f8d4881efe9e5f31b9d03a43ced3c8cb0341f3925de1232&

[clever belfry]

you are winning and u shall keep on winning

[tidal kindle]

Bro you already have this?

[warm crag]

my King

[tidal kindle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898720803586048/1347267970564493392/image.png?ex=67cdd793&is=67cc8613&hm=7ba6244fcb79670d989e963a4763afab0b183cdc1955b94501ff716afb8ef3c7&

[clever belfry]

he got it first try ofc

[gleaming siren]

I am the luckiest Mapper of all time

[warm crag]

maybe stop blowing up

[tidal kindle]

Nah

Blow up again

[warm crag]

+1s

[gleaming siren]

My warrior is filthy geared for no raid yet

Raid is tomorrow

🙏

[clever belfry]

does this mean

[wintry hatch]

as fury are we doing 2 set 2 set or is it better for wait for full 4 set

[clever belfry]

noob

[warm crag]

im so angry

[clever belfry]

i definetly didnt accidentally

use 15 runed on the downgrade during the quest

that would be

really silly

[gleaming siren]

noob

[clever belfry]

guess i just have to get more mythic loot

[gleaming siren]

I have 30 Runed 90 Gilded still

[clever belfry]

45/90 here

[unreal onyx]

yea i'm kinda gaming hard

[slim grotto]

why don't we used "cursed mastery" enchant over radiant mastery for rings?

[oblique trail]

@clever belfry I think you should

[idle ember]

damn grinded to keystone master and just realized you dont get actual tier anymore

why would blizzard do this

[unreal onyx]

actual tier?

you get a tier token, no?

or is that at ksh

[slim grotto]

You only get a catalyst charge

[idle ember]

yeah catalyst charge & mount only

why would they change that i have no idea

fucking over m+ gamers even harder

[unreal onyx]

I mean, for ksm you gotta do keys that give hero track gear

just be lucky and catalyze it after

[idle ember]

lucky

[clever belfry]

hmm no u

[oblique trail]

nyo :3

[sullen dove]

so is this just 3x worse than a mandate at 15 higher ilvl

if im reading that right

has strength instead of crit i guess but guh

[oblique trail]

Do not touch that trinket

It's awful

[sage karma]

lol

no one said it did but usually I'm at least in the top 10% for damage

I just use it as a measuring stick (assuming a smooth dungeon) for if I'm doing my shit correctly

[warm crag]

i touched it (655 (allowed me ONE upgrade on the amplifier to 652!))

[fair thistle]

how did you craft 2 weapons yet ?

[warm crag]

those are just m+ weapons

[fair thistle]

ah mb

[sand crest]

yo guys, is ksm not supposed to give a cata charge? I even relogged and its still not there

[oblique trail]

Look in your bags, you should have a green pile of dust that you use to get the charge

If it's not in your bags, check your mail

[fair thistle]

hey guys

been a while i didn't play the game, is 2M overall good for 625 ilvl ?

don't have any checkpoints to refer to

[oblique trail]

That's fine yeah

Not a lot of context, but arguably above average

[tidal kindle]

Can you just

1 map a week now

From delve

[plush flower]

How does the Cyrce's Circlet ilvl cheese thing work. Equip in both slots then delete? Can you buy a new one or do you have to item restore

[oblique trail]

You get it from the male dwarf next to the anvil by the turtle citrine vendor

[oblique trail]

From what I understand yes

[tidal kindle]

Gg

Bought 3 map spawners

And they're shared

So you only need 1 per like 5 people or w.e

[oblique trail]

now you have 2 weeks of guaranteed maps mate

or 3 if you didn't use one

[tidal kindle]

Didn't get car engine

[gleaming siren]

[sour frigate]

have 10s cleared to not get invited to 7s

[marble schooner]

what how

I have not had to wait more than 5 mins to get invited so far

and I complain a LOT about LFG simulator

[eager thorn]

I spend 20 mins in queue for ppl to end up doing s4 dflight damage in my keys so could be worse

[earnest canyon]

im sorry, im doing my best

[upper grove]

Have there been any thoughts on what to craft first or hold spark for weapon? (can always weapon for now from key/raid/vault is all I'm thinking).

Also fury breaking tier 2-2 or 4 for 4 only? I've simmed but wondering thoughts

[warm crag]

hold spark for weapon unless your situation dictates otherwise, crafting isn't a trivial flowchart
idk trust sims lol

[earnest canyon]

is there any reason at all to keep season one sparks? cant even make the 636 weps anymore cos dey took my season 1 gilded

[sly crane]

nope

[earnest canyon]

are u lying to me cos u hate me?

[sly crane]

I dont hate you

[earnest canyon]

ok well are u lying to me anyway

[sly crane]

no

[earnest canyon]

ok then, thanks!

[elfin harbor]

what exactly does post gallywix mean?

After gallywix mythic clear?

[upbeat cedar]

Means after u kill mythic gallywix

[elfin harbor]

or what

But why does this change its not a gallywix item

[covert blaze]

capital punisher is a gallywix item

[elfin harbor]

so the weapon is the reason the other two slots change then?

[upbeat cedar]

Yeah, just shifting ur weapon craft to cloak

And different embellishments as a result

[covert blaze]

yes cause you dont run the weapon embellishment

[elfin harbor]

okay since i wont do mythic i dont care about that then thx x)

[upper grove]

Word, appreciate the input 🙂

[crude flicker]

eye of kezan and house of cards in one normal

https://tenor.com/view/money-fun-coupons-wolf-of-wall-street-toss-gif-6912594

[forest owl]

my guild gave the only kezan trinket we got to the guardian druid

[crude flicker]

ouch

I had loaded dice today i guess

thankfully because my trinkets were ass

[sick viper]

I got 0 loot from normal except that dogshit lock n stalk trinket and Stix's hearthstone

been a bad week so far

[earnest canyon]

at least u can do normal, im stuck in LFR with 2 bosses lmao

[sick viper]

LFR Rik is a shitshow lmfaoo

I just started the patch this week so I was in a similar position

[static rock]

So, what trinkets do we wanna go for besides eye of kezan? cause some sims are showing lock-N-Stalk as being better

[sick viper]

oh shit rlly?

[winter shoal]

in what context

[earnest canyon]

I love how Liquid have been calling him DJ Dogshit....at least for a short time

[winter shoal]

kezan is omega bait in keys

and probably normal raid too

[earnest canyon]

kezan has stacks right?

[winter shoal]

Yeah

[earnest canyon]

so its made for long fights?

[clever belfry]

Kezan also isn't realistically attainable for most people

[earnest canyon]

yeah its not a M+ trink

[clever belfry]

cause everyone wants it

[sick viper]

this raid is piss easy tho

[warm crag]

get cooked lmao

[oak garden]

M+ is probably more something like the one out of Floodgate and HOC

[clever belfry]

easiest raid ever (3/8)

[sick viper]

I full cleared normal drunk asf yesterday

[warm crag]

who doesn't

[oak garden]

I dont habe one of them and still time my 10 and couple 11 with 649

[clever belfry]

not my NORMAL raid

[sick viper]

also this might be a top 10 raid for me

like I can't think of a boss I dislike

[earnest canyon]

im not sure if its actually easier but because they put more effort into telegraphing stuff its much easier to see when you are stood in shit, inc damage etc.....but i havent tried it myself

just watching rwf etc

[winter shoal]

nah normal is turbo free

numerically

[sick viper]

the animations are really cool too

[winter shoal]

stix might be the worst boss ever made actually

[sick viper]

I hated Ovinax way more

[winter shoal]

ovinax on n/hc was kinda whatever, on mythic it was giga ass

stix might be worse

[sick viper]

Nerubar was mid asf in general

Kyveza was the only boss I liked and maybe queen

Rashanan was good too

[static rock]

Like for mythic+? seaforium seems good at hero rank, but what other passive trinkets, is house of cards good for on use?

[winter shoal]

house of cards is probs your best on-use yeah

seaforium is good, delve amplifier trinket is good, apparently algari concordance is good

[static rock]

Is the radio any good?

[winter shoal]

Which radio?

[static rock]

Does any other on use stand out?

[winter shoal]

Reverb radio or mechano-core amplifier

[static rock]

reverb radio

[winter shoal]

yeah it's pretty good

I'd just sim top gear/droptimizer without eye of kezan tbh

[winter shoal]

funhouse lens is alright, priory signet might be okay but it's 2m so it's a little fucked

[warm crag]

on use doesnt really feel as good with am anyways

[slim grotto]

do we like this or it's bait?

[keen sequoia]

Hi guys you know a way to know which addons or auras are failing or having errors?

[floral frigate]

get bugsack and bugrabber addons

they collect and display lua errors

you need both they work together

[keen sequoia]

ty

[plush ice]

wis bugrabber the right name? i just put it into curseforge and nothing came up - bugsack did though

[forest owl]

BugGrabber

[keen sequoia]

how can I see the bugs?

i use /bugsack

jus the addon setting showing

[cold tree]

Quick question I got Reverb Raido trinket is it good for this spec?

[eternal sundial]

on your minimap

the red bag

[thin cliff]

you should have a bugsack icon on your minimap. clicking that pops up the stacktraces for lua errors

[keen sequoia]

tahnks

[earnest canyon]

it gives you a small snapshot of a stacktrace

[red berry]

somebody offered me 2 mil for my kezan

[modest condor]

man those paladins in priory need to have their aoe nerfed

that shit hurts

or at least make it so there's always like 10 seconds between casts if you pull multiple

[coral fiber]

What're we thinking for corruptions in PvP? Would we go gusher or TD?

[gilded pawn]

I find this crazy

It’s like 100 usd/euros

That’s like 3-4 hours of your wages

I know it’s common but I’m surprised how common this is

[ornate stratus]

i'm in a spot where I might need to flex from prot to fury in our raid group for the next few weeks--how bad is running SMF so I can at least have one shared weapon between both specs as opposed to trying to farm and gear out multiple 2H weapons and also a 1H+Shield

[young swan]

should ask in #pvp

[young swan]

minimum 5% worse

[proud leaf]

Sim it. Only way to really get the answer.

[dense elbow]

Based on asking the question, I would say it is likely completely fine for your scenario. It is a 5% ish difference.
Might get more DPS vs Tank gains from going arms/prot, as they share stats

[sharp wadi]

is 1% strength = 1% damage? what's the formula

[marble pilot]

Might be able to get good enough 2h weapons also. Ive gotten 3 champ 2hrs this week

[tulip rivet]

Guys, do you think ‘Deft Experience’ is even necessary in the Fury talent tree? I feel like I could have far more use with those 2 points elsewhere.
What do you guys think

[young swan]

u can definitely drop it, but there isnt much to drop it for

[dense elbow]

If you feel you can comfortably play around not having them, feel free

[modest condor]

where else would you put it that could be a bigger dps gain

[young swan]

also its just nice QoL

[tulip rivet]

I put it in unbridled ferocity and sudden death

[young swan]

its pretty much exclusively either UF or critical thinking

sudden death is bad

[modest condor]

sudden death is not a choice for slayer and thane never presses execute so it's a useless talent

[dense elbow]

Sudden Death? Interesting choice

PvP angle, maybe? Got to ask

[tulip rivet]

Oh okay thank you for letting me know I’ll have a look where else I can change the sudden death point to

[dense elbow]

DE is kinda neat, love the extend it gives. Allows me more human error

[young swan]

critical thinking or UF

those are pretty much the only choices

[ornate stratus]

Yeah, I definitely prefer fury, but was thinking the same. Thanks all for the answers

[dense elbow]

Have fun with dagger warrior 🗡️🗡️

[marble pilot]

I dropped deft for fresh meat and unbridled ferocity.
I just like being able to enrage early on random mobs and i didnt know what to do with the other point.

[dense elbow]

It is early in the season, now is the time to test things out and form your opinion on it. Then spread your learned experiences as you gather them. Good and bad

[torn plaza]

2pc2pc or stay 4pc mb if its listed somewhere tried scrolling but didnt see

[tidal kindle]

Fresh meat kinda

[feral ivy]

someone said to do 3 t11 delves why?

[dense elbow]

Cause they bored as hell? Maybe they was told to do so by the Jailer. No clue, tell us why.

[marble pilot]

Crests I think. For people that dont do m)

m+\

[crude flicker]

Gilded crests

[dense elbow]

get outaaah heeeereh

[drowsy sage]

https://tenor.com/view/kekw-twitch-twitchtv-twitch-emote-kek-gif-19085736

[sullen dove]

maybe deft experience hear that talent is pretty good

[smoky vale]

hi

[sullen dove]

elo

[smoky vale]

ole

[hoary agate]

breh prot so busted XD

i've seen higher even but still wtf

[smoky vale]

thats nothing lol

prot isnt even that strong

[hoary agate]

yea exactly this was a pug tank

[marble pilot]

id play gladiator again. I miss it

[smoky vale]

pala and vdh burst higher

and live better

[hoary agate]

not in pugs kek

avg pala/dh runs into a pack and instant die haha

[smoky vale]

yeah

[keen sequoia]

Im kinda new with fury, i want to understand bloodthirst priority, should i just use it when crit is maxed or what

[rocky locust]

Check this out
https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps

[keen sequoia]

if target is below 35% then should I just spam Enrage>Bloodthirst right?

[next ruin]

For those who dropped a hero track haste mastery 2h, do you still plan on crafting a 675 2H next week?

[stuck goblet]

It’ll be 2 weeks won’t it?

[modest condor]

yes, and yes i'll still be crafting a weapon, the only way im not crafting a weapon is if i get 2 myth track weapons before i can craft one

(or a myth track weapon and bis for the people who are raiding)

[red berry]

yeah no it was tempting but im glad i kept it its insane

[next ruin]

I thought it could have been better to have both duskthread with some hero track weapon by week 2, then waiting for a myth track / hero bis in the vault

[red berry]

uptime in certain keys can be really good

[somber lance]

has anyone had sims say some insane stuff? its telling me to put higher ilvl weapon not in main hand

[modest condor]

you probably didnt put the weapons in properly

[somber lance]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2Ew8DimmmkGc4gFFzFSDKS

[frozen berry]

For normal Gallywix I wanna be in a raid aoe spec right?

[earnest canyon]

it tells me to use authority in both weps else I lose 0.7% damage

[modest condor]

you're using the wrong 636 weapon for offhand

[somber lance]

i simmed both slots

the higfher ilvl is simming higher in off hand

[modest condor]

http://puu.sh/KpDtF/fa868517d0.png

[whole yacht]

not using the one with ascendance. lol

[somber lance]

oh im blasted

ty

[undone flower]

If you didn’t vendor sell your 636 embellished bracers I would put them in the sim too

The effect doesn’t scale with ilvl and maybe the robot doesn’t care about having ilvl on bracers

[somber lance]

Okay thankyou

[sullen dove]

w h a t

[chilly fractal]

My wrist does not miss Glad Warrior

[foggy pine]

guys is Viscera of Coalesced Hatred good?

[sick viper]

Visions was so based

last good solo pve content they put in the game

[sullen dove]

the actual gameplay was fun but the "you had to have been doing this since week 1 of the patch and if you missed some weeks as a new player or alts you are permanently behind because fuck you"

until they fixed that idk like 6 months in or some shit

[earnest canyon]

visions sucked ass, delves are really fun

[sick viper]

good joke

[earnest canyon]

not a joke at all

i enjoy delves cos i can afk for like 15mins

i like how they vary too

its background content to do while working

visions was just more grindy crap

[sick viper]

nah delves are so boring compared to visions

[earnest canyon]

boring is relative

[sick viper]

delves are legit just a step above scenarios imo

[earnest canyon]

I can kill one pack in a delve, go and make a coffee, answer an email or 2, or even do it in a conf call

visions is some solo adhd thing like m+ is

[frozen berry]

Sweet, got Capital Punisher off my first normal kill of Gallywix 😄

[sick viper]

which was why it was fun lol

the only other content I think matches visions is mage tower

[earnest canyon]

that isnt fun fun to me

mage tower was fun, yeah

but i set time aside for that solo content

M+ is just really unfun for me as I window down a lot these days, its why i stopped raiding

[sick viper]

the game needs more good solo content in general

I hate m+ lol

but this patch's raid is great so I'm kinda invested

[earnest canyon]

yeah the later fights look fun

can do a raid or 2 a week as you can pencil out 2-3hrs a night a few times

m+ is just ass grinding shit

[clever path]

is thane still garbage?

[winter shoal]

Thane is good in keys

It's also good for Stix in raid

[clever path]

do we jsut treat thunderclap like ww?

[gilded pawn]

generally

[frozen berry]

The meat cleaver talents make it so your thunderclap makes ur abilities cleave just like whirlwind and replace it in ur rotation.

[clever path]

how much better is slayer in raid?

[runic violet]

is wow offline

[frozen berry]

I cleared normal raid as slayer with my guild this week and was competitive with people even 10-25 ilvls above me, was usually top 3.

[gilded pawn]

254 ilevel is insane

[earnest canyon]

yeah 254ilevels is crazy skill

[gilded pawn]

also slayer is the better choice anyways

hes asking how much better is slayer than thane

[earnest canyon]

apply to liquid

[gilded pawn]

im assuming he wants to play thane

[frozen berry]

oops...

As for the difference betweeen Mt Thane and Slayer, idk tbh, both ouf our warriors were palying slayer Fury today. I think it's nearly the same in aoe, but more consistant aoe than Slayer but slightly behind Slayer in ST.

[earnest canyon]

i just feel slayer has no class fantasy....i know people dont care about that, and just dps, but all you get is a little dot to track

it does do more ST at least at my crappy ilevel

[frozen berry]

Eh? Slayer is all bout those bladestorms and executes lol, big old burst. Though not as big as early last season 😦

[earnest canyon]

everyone is different

[spare steppe]

is there any boss worse for melee than the third boss in the rookery?

[earnest canyon]

his hit box is massive so I didnt find that bad at all

[frozen berry]

Mug'Zee was kidna annoyingg in raid as a melee tbh

[spare steppe]

ill have to try fighting from further back

[earnest canyon]

2nd boss in cinderbrew is super annoying to me

[spare steppe]

those beams and jumps were brutal

oh wait that’s the second boss, third is fine

[earnest canyon]

wait maybe im getting them mixed up

whats the second in rookery

first is bird, last is blob

[rare garnet]

You can melee from like the railroad tracks. The hit box is MASSIVE. Once I learned that, EZPZ

[spare steppe]

second boss is the one who jumps with the beams, gravity pool, and the hopping dot

Thats the one im struggling with

[earnest canyon]

oh i thought he was in cinderbrew

yes that is the one i was talking about too

he is a fucking pain in the ass, and idk how to deal with it as melee

unless you grief and just hope the healer keeps you alive

its so easy on hunter

[rare garnet]

I greed the hell out of the sucks and leap out last second, on his leaps just back up 15y until I see the beam direction. Only part that feels bad is the suck/pool overlap.

[earnest canyon]

yeah ive noticed I suck at "greeding" dps on warr cos on hunter I can always turtle or just leap back and still do full dps

[lament plume]

is 2pc season 2 ok to switch from 4pc

[earnest canyon]

on warr i can get pancaked if im greedy

[spare steppe]

glad it isnt just me, definitely a pain.

[earnest canyon]

yeah dont compare yourself to me though, i bet others have better tips/strats

[spare steppe]

Otherwise dungeons arent too bad

[earnest canyon]

yeah they are much more fun on warr than hunter

and i generally do more dps

[spare steppe]

at least in rhe 7-8 range, im sure others here are much higher

[earnest canyon]

i think once you jump 2 keys or so its a different game each time....or used to be

"just nuke" becomes "always kick" etc etc

they made that #1347646810457636974 channel, so you could ask in there and post your gear and key level etc, even without logs

or just ask again when more active advisors are on

[spare steppe]

Good call. Appreciate it!

[earnest canyon]

Np, but i didnt do anything....you are already doing higher keys than me on warrior...but we have the same issues on that boss 🤣

[dire gyro]

Does the Burst of power proc change the prio on BT for ST/aoe?

[rocky locust]

Will the 2- and 4-set bonuses from season 2 affect our rotation priority?

[static rock]

i imagine we will prioritize rampage a lot more considering AM build

[rocky locust]

@edgy widget Do you think this Wowhead page will be updated?
https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps#rotation-2

[oblique trail]

No

[restive peak]

This is updated?

[rocky locust]

Are you asking me if it's updated or are you asking why I'm asking that because it's already updated?

[restive peak]

It is already updated I'm saying

What updates are you asking for? Lol

[edgy widget]

it's what's called a "living document" which means it is intended and designed to be constantly updated, so yes - it is both updated for Season 2 and will continue to be updated as needed

[rocky locust]

I was trying to ask if the current version of the document accounts for the new tier set bonuses. It sounds like it does.

[edgy widget]

because it procs so frequently, it is not currently believed to be worth playing around the tier set, and to instead just consume the bonuses naturally

which could probably be better specified inside the page to avoid confusion

[rocky locust]

Players might find it nice to know that the tier set bonus doesn't change the priority. Just one sentence could cover this.

[edgy widget]

FWIW that is explicitly outlined on tier set page
but yes, I agree, which is why I just said that

of course, one could also infer that it not being mentioned is an answer in of itself, but a few always fall through the cracks unless it's explicitly outlined

[rocky locust]

Thank you for clarifying.

[true sequoia]

What's the best for ST, fury or arms?

[edgy widget]

for general damage, Fury
for Execute or dedicated 2 target, Arms

they're both very close right now though

[true sequoia]

Okay cool, I like to just play a single target build that's all

[true sequoia]

I just done 2 dummy parses , arms on ST was quite a bit ahead, maybe I'm just better with that rotation?

[sullen dove]

Was the dummy in execute range

[true sequoia]

Yeh

[sullen dove]

if so giga skews towards arms if you’re hitting execute on cooldown

[true sequoia]

Ahhh so with execute included arms will be better

[sullen dove]

Yea

Well like the relevance of execute

Like fury much more streamlined consistent dmg, generally a bit higher the majority of the fight but if it’s a really important execute burn phase thats where arms goes off

so arms prolly gonna be pretty vital on bandit and mugzee but maybe it’s not so big a gain you don’t still use fury cuz it lives better

[true sequoia]

It's a tough call , I enjoy both lol

[sullen dove]

yea I mean if you play em to a similar level then whatever you prefer more than fine

arms is giga fun to play in m+ tho

Fury can explode

[true sequoia]

I mostly do raid content, never really been a fan of m+

[sullen dove]

Glass cannon arms peaking like 15mil dps with cds

[gilded pawn]

Execute only matters at high ranking mythic imo

If you are a casual CE guild fighting 5/8M in full bis execute isn’t very important

[sullen dove]

Or a low enough ranking where you gotta take matters into your own hands

(sarkareth)

[gilded pawn]

Yeah real

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-gif-25117042

[true sequoia]

I'll give fury a go see if I can get the numbers closer to arms, love duel 2h

[gilded pawn]

Also your offhand may just be weaker

[stiff hill]

are any ravager macros recommended? i find manual placement annoying during things like lust or just in general

[summer quail]

I do @cursor

[bitter palm]

crazy lore

[quiet frost]

Hey I've been trying to improve my fury rotation with the Icyveins/Wowhead guide, and poking at some logs for heroic. The guide mentions stacking Slaughtering Strikes after Bladestorm to get a big Rampage, but through a few of the logs I've picked at it seems like only some of the warriors are doing it. Is it just a minor gain kind of thing, or is it a 2/4piece kind of thing?

[oblique trail]

It's a minor gain to do so

Roughly a 0.4-0.5%~ loss to not bother with it, with AM specced

In practice though, delaying your BS can end up making you miss specific CD timings on a fight

Delaying your Rampage even*

[quiet frost]

Alrighty thanks a lot. I'll take the minor gains where I can get them, and I guess I'll have to try and not bungle CDs by doing it.

[odd dagger]

hi guys. do you have any wa for 2/4 set warrior?

[true sequoia]

Finally got armaggeddon to drop from naxx, mog complete!! ❤️

[proven bloom]

when is it wort swapping out the old 4 set?

[summer quail]

pretend it's not there. we do not play around it

[clever belfry]

it only has bearing if u follow bt crit% cond

Which like who cares ))

[warm swallow]

is it worth crafting an armor piece at max rank now or more worth while to wait and craft a weapon?

[summer quail]

wait

[warm swallow]

ok ty 🙂

[tidal kindle]

@sudden tusk soon....

[sudden tusk]

freedom soon

[summer quail]

meadery neck only 5k gain?

[tidal kindle]

It's compared to sikran neck

Makes sense

[summer quail]

mine is also compared to sikran neck

[tender seal]

What ilevel are you simming?

[sudden tusk]

yeah i have the mythic sv neck

and its like .3%

[fading sky]

wait and not ness for weapon either, though id 99% guess just crafting weapon for M+ is 100% worth it, as replacement is lit mythic raid bosses

[tidal kindle]

655

[tender seal]

holyy your trinkets and weap lol

[eternal sundial]

is that pvp ring or am i just tripping with reused icons

[tidal kindle]

Cinder

[summer quail]

i can equip that as well, but i think cinder neck was huge anyway

[tidal kindle]

Normal tho

Still not complaining

[tender seal]

Still goes to 658 right?

[tidal kindle]

But it's no heroic slots

Yah

[sudden tusk]

: )

[tidal kindle]

They should've made heroic very rares 666

[eternal sundial]

slots on am feels good

[tidal kindle]

OnG

[eternal sundial]

on ra that item is horrid

[summer quail]

weapon is just worth anyway ngl. only gallywix+bis is better than ascendance

[eternal sundial]

vibe wise

[fading sky]

ye 🙂

[eternal sundial]

i mean if ur key arent u just perma arm

and then u just vault a wep

[summer quail]

atleast if you're planning on playing fury for majority of bosses. if planning arms then idk

[fading sky]

im arms i think might make weap as well

last season i got weapon week like 12

[tidal kindle]

I disagree (if you have heroic slotter)

Also depending on how fast you think you'll finish prog

But I could be wrong

[fading sky]

heroic slotter + crafted with ascendance

[tidal kindle]

[fading sky]

has to be better than 3 ilvls + 1500 crit rating no ?

for prog

the other embellishments are so based on health uptime no ?

[summer quail]

yeah this is true, for someone like me on a very low ranking CE guild it's not punishing to craft weapon at all. by the time i hit gally i will have enough sparks anyway

[eternal sundial]

for fury thats stronger but u mega grief ur arms gear ig

[fading sky]

is heroic slotter better than acsendance?

[eternal sundial]

not sure

id reckon its about equal?

[summer quail]

@tidal kindle

[tidal kindle]

[tidal kindle]

Like 2-3% behind from what madox told me

[fading sky]

which is behind ?:D

[tidal kindle]

Heroic slotter is 2%~ behind 675 ascendance

[sudden tusk]

yuh

[tidal kindle]

But that doesn't factor in the other 2 crafted items you get

From saving those sparks

[sudden tusk]

its probably like slightly worse

[eternal sundial]

• you can go hc free craft one

[sudden tusk]

but if you ever get a myth wep in the vualt thats just -2 crafts

[eternal sundial]

so u also gain crests

[gleaming siren]

Idk

HC BiS should just go to Evoker prob

[sudden tusk]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1212528993283088384/1228863090368450592/ezgif-2-db49a54415.gif

[tidal kindle]

Warrior if looking like fury tier

(It is)

[sudden tusk]

fury until slots/mugzee

even then debatable kinda

[gleaming siren]

It's a

[fading sky]

well isnt crafted worth it then ? even as arms if u are proggin mythic very slowly

[gleaming siren]

roll your Warriors to different classes to have a chance at killing Junkbunker

tier

[fading sky]

ill get Bis mythic from coins in 11.5 not before

[summer quail]

stat diff i guess, this is with algari oil and a mastery flask tho

[sudden tusk]

stats have been weird for me

been wanting more crit/vs compared to what i expected

even arms wants more mastery

[summer quail]

do you have the floodgate trinket and still want more crit?

[sudden tusk]

with the floodgate trinket arms wants more mastery then i expected

[tidal kindle]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4PxHQyyAumgyZPgTieny5B
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7nnWno2ftcJMFvMbvtXvte

https://tenor.com/iS4QGqR7zVr.gif

[potent thicket]

bruh

[mossy fox]

wow your arms is poop

[tidal kindle]

https://tenor.com/bDG6x.gif

[granite violet]

are we nerfed yet? it's been to long :(

[oblique trail]

No

[rotund sierra]

guys is grim codex 649 better than 639 arakara? i cant sim website isnt working rn

[oblique trail]

Grim codex is garbage

[fading sky]

Would u upgrade

a weapon to 6/6 hc

i know gilded are valueable in the long run

[sudden tusk]

i keep trying to cook and i wonder if fatality will be seen in this race

[fading sky]

hmm

i mean in theory last 2 bosses?

if they do enough dmg, but lack execute ?

[sudden tusk]

even though arms isnt that far ahead the ability to store damage for a timed enrage phase is just kinda nuts

[clever belfry]

codussy

[rare fjord]

is there a m+ item warriors absolutely must farm - like the mechagon mage bracer

[hardy bluff]

no

all trinkets are kinda shit

[summer quail]

that's not true. floodgate trinket very good

[hardy bluff]

okay theres 1 trinket mb

[lean haven]

Hello! Rotation question for Mounthain Thain. Should i always prio Thunder Blast proc over Rampare. Or i want spen rampage before using it, specially when i have like 130 rage?

[compact siren]

Andussy

[median marsh]

i am a bit confused about the crafting gear this season, what should i craft first?

[tidal kindle]

Yo this mount is so good

[clever belfry]

ure a rat

[tidal kindle]

[heavy dock]

What is that mog

[oblique trail]

balls

[rare fjord]

i think i jsut got. it is it the floodcharge thing?

[oblique trail]

It's the seaforium

[eternal sundial]

T6 pvp recolor goated tho

[oblique trail]

something something

[rare fjord]

yeah

i just got it

the ability is kind of a word salad : |

[oblique trail]

TLDR is use ability, get crit buff, crit to extend

[mossy fox]

tldr is it procs every 60 secs and lasts 30 secs as long as you're punching things

i used more words than banezi im a failure

[oblique trail]

whatever crit said because he might actually have the trinket

[rare fjord]

is there a particular moment i should hold on until i use an ability to triger it

[summer quail]

no

just play

[eternal sundial]

play vibeogam

[rare fjord]

i mean, it can proc while we are finishing last mob in a pack then tick away while walking right?

[summer quail]

it just procs anyway

yeah i guess, but then you have to not press anything

[mossy fox]

stopping dps is absolutely not the play

[rare fjord]

might be worth it to lose 5mil dmg worth on a solitary mob to save the proc for next pull

maybe ill do a wa for it

[mossy fox]

i'd recommend not overthinking this trinket and just play the game

[summer quail]

idk, this amount of minmaxing is too extreme