fury

[radiant plank]

it is

correct

in the sim

[near wing]

So mastery just outweighs everything that materially. Crazy

[quiet geyser]

@near wing there could be a lot of factors going into it. Maybe losing your crafted neck with haste drops you below a haste threshold, which would destroy your dps

Just trust the sim and run with it!

[near wing]

Will do, thank you

I gotta say, it felt really cool being in m+6 last night and sweating again. Feel like we got so powerful at the end of last season, mechanics just went out the window

Struggling a little in 6s was fun

[feral ivy]

any reason not to use my mythic crest to upgrade my weapon?

[sage karma]

struggling in 6s?

[near wing]

Struggling is wrong word. I couldn’t just sit in blast range

Like I had to pay attention again.

[sage karma]

ah fair

I thought you were implying they've made dungeons harder

[near wing]

Nah

I got so bored end of last season because gear was too strong. So the play style dumbs down

[polar shale]

anyone to confirm fury 2set is bugged and gives 4set procs too

or i missread it somehow

[cinder pelican]

anyone can tell me wich weapon enchant is best for M+ guides are not recommending the same

[oblique trail]

If you only play M+, then go Radiant Power

[cinder pelican]

thank you

[quiet breach]

is there more mobs the higher the key goes?

[marble pilot]

I dont do a ton of m+ but the mobs live longer so sustained cleave can beat out burst cleave

[oblique trail]

Higher levels just give mobs more damage and health

Doesn't change the dungeon itself

[quiet breach]

so its my understanding that slayer is better in single target and multi target under 6 mobs, and thane is better in 6+ mob AOE. why would slayer be better in lower keys and thane better in higher keys? or is the statement just not true

[modest condor]

that's not true

slayer has more burst aoe, that's why it's better in lower keys

in low keys trash will die during or shortly after your cooldowns

in high keys trash will live a long time so the higher sustain aoe of thane overtakes it

[quiet breach]

I see

[marble pilot]

Unless you are pushing higher keys it probably doesnt matter either way. Play what you enjoy more or are better at

[quiet breach]

thx

[chilly fractal]

You can always play what you enjoy don’t let your dreams be memes

Make your dreams come true

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-dont-let-your-dreams-be-dreams-go-for-it-claim-it-shia-la-beouf-gif-16079495

[fervent yoke]

Mobs live longer, want sustained AoE (thane) not burst (slayer)

[feral ivy]

is wintergrasp weekly 639? or more?

[quiet breach]

how good should my heroic parses be before I start looking for a mythic guild?

[sage smelt]

is there a WA for tracking stacks of bloodthirst or whatever?

[fervent yoke]

70-80+ parses in heroic maybe? That’s a steep goal to have out the gate. Start with looking for a heroic guild first.

[quiet breach]

just found this https://wago.io/ObHDOFhMm

[sage smelt]

Thank you

[quiet breach]

I don't use it but I think its what ur looking for

what is VC?

[prisma dune]

I love still seeing fury competing at high levels. Arms is so boring for me after playing with the apm of fury

[wheat lantern]

Arms is so wack

[hollow elk]

arms feels like a meat packing job

at 3pm (30% you gotta rush the job) so you start executing

[fervent yoke]

Both specs slap arms is great in m+ too

But swapping from fury did feel weird at first

[wheat lantern]

never call fury weird

[prisma dune]

[winter shoal]

Oh hey I made this

[winter shoal]

How good of a mythic guild?

[prisma dune]

Fury with adhd irl is the perfect combo

[hollow elk]

there are mythic guilds and then theres cutting edge guilds

mythic guild will probably accept most people with not gray parses and filter out the super bads

[river loom]

Do we use Authority of the Depths or Authority of Radiant Power?

[prisma dune]

I read this as super balds for some reason

[winter shoal]

Depths generally

[river loom]

God bless u good Sir

[quiet breach]

what is VC?

[winter shoal]

Vicious Contempt

Buffs bloodthirst/bloodbath when your target is below 35% health

[hollow elk]

i-im not bald!

[winter shoal]

It changes the logic around when you use BT relative to RB

[quiet breach]

is that a thing with anger management

[winter shoal]

With the current tuning of things yes you probably will take VC with both AM and RA

Actually it looks like the wowhead raid slayer aoe build doesn't take VC

My weakaura will handle whether you have VC talented or not though

[quiet breach]

I will switch my bloodcraze only tracker to yours and see if I like it

[plush ice]

the spell reflect essentials WA still hasn't been updated right

[quiet breach]

I have never used vicious contempt yet (still brand new)

so I haven't thought about tracking it

same with bloodbath and crushing blows lol

haven't used RA

[winter shoal]

My weakaura is basically "glow = use BT over RB, not glow = use RB over BT"

You don't really need to track anything, it tracks stuff for you and just lights up when it's time to press the button

[quiet breach]

what should parses look like for applying for a mythic guild that may or may not get CE, and one that will def get CE but not hof

[winter shoal]

I got into a like 4 or 5/8 guild with like 80ish avg in heroic. I'm now in a race-to-world-last 7/8 type guild with a 99avg in heroic, 96avg in mythic. I'd say most people in the guild are like 90-95ish avg in heroic though

For a CE guild I'd say 95+ avg in heroic, for a HOF guild I'd say 99 avg in heroic

[quiet breach]

btw, does bloodthirst work like, u have vicious contempt = u press BT > RB no matter what regardless of bloodcraze stacks? @winter shoal

[winter shoal]

Not quite, it just changes the bloodcraze threshold from 4 to 2

https://github.com/simulationcraft/simc/blob/thewarwithin/ActionPriorityLists/warrior_fury.simc#L68-L70

[quiet breach]

I thought bloodcraze threshold was 3?

that's what wowhead guide says

or is that only without vicious talented

[winter shoal]

That might've been an Archi diff

There are a lot of minor optimizations in the simc APL that aren't worth worrying about for the most part, so Archi does some translation between "what's technically best if you play 100% perfectly" vs "what will be best for most people in most realistic cases"

[quiet breach]

I see

I have a other question if u don't mind

[winter shoal]

For most people, BT > RB when below 35% is probably best because it's just simpler

But my weakaura tracks the stuff anyways so no reason to worry

[gentle walrus]

You can do some weird complicated stuff for an extra 0.2% of damage.

[quiet breach]

so it is my understanding u should press execute if you have 3 stacks of marked for execution, or sudden death/ashen jugger is like 3 seconds left.

what does priority look like if you have 2 stacks of ashen jugg/sudden death but it still has like 10s or more left on it? @winter shoal

dunno why it posted a heart lol

[winter shoal]

Stacks of jugg don't really matter as long as it's >0, it's more about maintaining the buff generally vs maintaining a specific number of stacks

For 2xSD, the threshold is 7 seconds, i.e. if you have 2 SD stacks and 10 seconds remaining, you'd press other buttons, but if you have 2 SD stacks and 6s remaining, you'd press exe

https://github.com/simulationcraft/simc/blob/thewarwithin/ActionPriorityLists/warrior_fury.simc#L52C34-L52C46

But I'm pretty sure when I simmed that a while back, it was like 0.1% dps difference

#fury message

That's with 11.0.7 stuff though, haven't run the sims with new APL

[fervent yoke]

You just don’t want jugg to fall off, there a WA that tells you when to press execute when playing slayer

[feral ivy]

anyone have a wa marker

[winter shoal]

Like an auto-marker for keys?

[feral ivy]

WA auto maker

yea lol

[fervent yoke]

Don’t overthink everything at the start, start playing and make adjustments as you get better.

[feral ivy]

WA site not working for me

[quiet breach]

yeah I have this https://wago.io/SuKT7KC8I it just tracks jugg and SD and shows the execute icon when mobs are low hp

it doesn't Actually tell u exactly when to press it

if it did it wouldn't show me 15 seconds left of jugg

so I got a understand and decide when to press it on my own

[winter shoal]

not working for me either but I can link you the one I use

[feral ivy]

pls

[winter shoal]

https://wago.io/r8u4tHLRQ I know people use this one and like it

From @bitter palm :
A WA that glows and plays a kaching sound whenever a condition for sending SD is met.
These conditions are:
SD is about to fall off
Ashen Juggernaut is about to fall off
3 stacks of Marked for Execution
2 stacks of SD

I made my own but it's probably not as good

[winter shoal]

https://wago.io/b_JzlxXLu/101 should be it

[fervent yoke]

That’s the wrong one that’s why

Use the one bowl linked

[feral ivy]

tyty

[quiet breach]

I will, ty

[quiet breach]

ty

[fervent yoke]

@quiet breach love that you’re asking a bunch of questions but make sure you go through the pins and faq’s in this discord first it will answer most of them.

[vernal laurel]

Anyone know if this is a guaranteed drop from the Underpin boss? Just got it

[quiet breach]

I did undermine boss and got a 642 chest

don't remember the upgrade track it was

[midnight kite]

I got that 2h also, another fury warrior I know said he got nothing

[vernal laurel]

Ok, so it was just lucky then

[midnight kite]

Its slightly worse then an equal ilvl weapon but it was still like 1.4% over my 639 weapon, pretty neat tmog also

[sage ridge]

Do we get out 2nd spark next week or the week after next?

[dapper goblet]

madox for yellow

[gusty sleet]

anyone see wq for wep in motherlorde?

[south kayak]

Either something is bugged or I didn’t get half a spark somehow

I opened a few pinnacle boxes

Nothing

I think it’s bugged

There’s no way I didn’t get the spark

What the fuck is this

[sly crane]

I didnt get one either

[south kayak]

So it’s a bug

Always something going wrong in this game

Fix your damn game

[sly crane]

yeah this expac is way too buggy

honestly I'm kinda over it at this point

[quiet breach]

what track gear do u get from s2 heroic dungeons?

what starting ilvl

[sinful spoke]

652

At 7

Oh heroic

Like 619

[analog quail]

guys sorry a question

do we go 2x radiant power?

[sinful spoke]

THEYRE BACK

[frank dawn]

oh no, Fury is on top of the day 1 heroic wcl all bosses data

we're fuckin doomed

[eager thorn]

?

[wheat lantern]

can we farm a decent mechano-core amplifier trinket from delves ? or is it just in weekly delve vault

[fickle cedar]

they mean on stats not rankings

[modest condor]

http://puu.sh/Kpqya/c4746ae6a7.png

i think something broke for me

[south kayak]

I think half are gonna kind of catch up because their tier sets are stronger than ours by a lot

[native siren]

any noticeable difference in MT gameplay for m+?

seems like it didn't change much

[frank dawn]

no change really, you just don't take OF anymore

[restive peak]

It didn't change at all

[native siren]

that's what i figured, i wasn't taking OF anyway

maybe i dabble in arms this season

[subtle zenith]

Guys

did we get nerfed?

I did a lot more damage last week

[fading sky]

No

[earnest canyon]

are you sure other people just havent caught up with gear etc?

[subtle zenith]

Nah

did a solid 2.0M dps last week, and now I feel like trash

In most dungeons

[earnest canyon]

ah....idk then

I wish I did 2m though lmao

[subtle zenith]

Now even when I live through the dungeons I do like 1.7M dps

on good days

[fading sky]

New dungeons

Different pulls

[frank dawn]

basically no one is going to be pulling as big as they were last week either

[hardy wadi]

so is 2m overall good now?

[olive wraith]

Time will tell

With more gear we might see bigger pulls I’d assume

[fervent yoke]

2m overall is pretty good I’d say, I know I’ve seen some arms players in this disc push close to 3m overall I don’t think fury is too far behind.

[hardy wadi]

im sticking to slayer, loved it last season also... i hope i dont miss out to much dmg

[ornate gust]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/the-motherlode-dungeon-world-quest-awards-gear-from-the-war-within-375602

did anyone got the mace from the world quest?

it shows for me a shield !!!

[fervent yoke]

How high of keys do you plan to push this season? Slayer is complete fine btw. Thane usually gets taken in higher keys.

[hardy wadi]

well last season i stopped at everything +13

personal stuff came up so i stopped pushing

i try to get as high as possible

and i was slyer with reckless abandon

[fervent yoke]

ahh I think AM slayer is the new move

[hardy wadi]

yeee

[earnest canyon]

where do you pick this up from

[gusty sleet]

i dont have quest lmao

[hardy wadi]

i had this quest

in the dungeon

its automatically active if you enter it

but we ignored it, and it didnt show reward for me

[quiet breach]

there better not be another campaign I have to do after undermine or I am going to lose my fukkin mind

[tidal kindle]

https://x.com/metaphorswow/status/1897112887224885378?s=46

Metaphors (@Metaphorswow) on X

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cant make this shit up btw

X · Mar 5, 2025, 2:32 AM

I'm a pvp main

[south kayak]

did u see survival hunter

flanking strike

damage

[south kayak]

me when I get 40% buff on rotational abilities without pvp reduction

[molten wing]

anyone from Silvermoon EU ? it seems like server just shit the bed

[sullen dove]

any shouters if you can still do the gilded craft thing and swap stats recraft and then upgrade both slots for free

be even doubly worth it now since it’s only 60 big g’s

[dapper goblet]

tried yesterday doesnt work

[sullen dove]

cringe

[south kayak]

yo xeos

are you still palying blue

playing

[dapper goblet]

yes

[south kayak]

when blizzard fixes a bug

= cringe

[sullen dove]

Either way still worth to just craft 2 trinks no ur just capped by sparks

[sullen dove]

yes

[south kayak]

thoughts on primordial storm

[sullen dove]

worth to craft any item I mean if you have sparks cuz it saves 15 crests assuming you have something in myth track

[dapper goblet]

kinda cool but not sure why it was added

think my brain expanded 30% playing new enhance in keys

[south kayak]

tbh it's cooler than the previous one

[south kayak]

lmfao same

there's aslo some weird shenanigans

where u cancel totem to use recall

to get hh ll

or something

You have to track so many things

totem, frost witch, HH, doom winds, prim

[dapper goblet]

correct

unironically like quadrupled in difficulty

last season you pressed stormstrike and spent

now you have 9 other buttons

totem still does top dam in keys so swordish wins this time

[south kayak]

Stormbringer is same as last season tho

so you can play thatt for simplicity

especially in st

[rigid marlin]

Is silvermoon down?

[south kayak]

someone said it was

[rigid marlin]

Stuck in character retrieving

[dapper goblet]

stormbringer is like 200k less than my totemic now after the s1 tier nerfs

so i'm perma totem dropper

[acoustic iron]

Human females do not support the fury "look"

[south kayak]

unfortuate

[random raptor]

anyone crafting a weapon first?

[olive wraith]

Surely I’ll loot 2 myth track by week 3

[uneven path]

When is it worht to swap old T set ?

[feral ivy]

how yall liking TOP last boss ?

[earnest canyon]

shit, like its always been

I hate TOP, its gimmicky as fuck and too many one shots off platforms and stuff if you lose focus....but im casual so...

[fervent yoke]

I’m still salty bout my brand new oled monitor - literally plugged it in and white line of death popped up an hr later 😩

[south kayak]

@dapper goblet btw I recommend playing with Storm's Wrath and Stormblast instead of Sundering/Molten Thunder in M+

Helps A LOT with ST that enha kind of lacks in M+ build

AoE is still strong

[dapper goblet]

no idea what those talents are

not a talent name person

[dapper goblet]

i'd probably take that in workshop

boss dam does be lackin though

[south kayak]

It does, you won't notice if you funnel but downtime some bosses have is insane

[sinful spoke]

King of terts

[south kayak]

Looks like they fixed the motherlode WQ bug

[graceful elk]

So do we not run Odyns fury anymore

[winter shoal]

We do not

[novel perch]

is it worth to break 4 set?

[winter shoal]

It was already kind of mid before, and our other abilities got buffed without OF getting buffed

[winter shoal]

Sim

[novel perch]

and play 2 set and 2 set?

I didnt use catalyst

so I prefer to ask

[winter shoal]

You can sim what the dps difference will be

[novel perch]

ah ok

[winter shoal]

And the raidbots top gear sim will let you add a catalyst piece as well

But you probably shouldn't use your cata charge for 2pc

Save it to make 4pc

If you cata gloves and then get the glove tier token you just wasted your cata charge

[novel perch]

I have hero piece anyway

for legs

[winter shoal]

Or if you get tier from vault

[novel perch]

and shoulder

hmm

thats ghood point

[winter shoal]

Fury tier is also kinda stinky so like the cost of waiting until you have 3 other tier pieces is relatively small, you don't need to be in a big rush to get the new tier set

[graceful elk]

Why dont we run odyns anymore

[winter shoal]

#fury message

[graceful elk]

Ah ok then

[olive wraith]

I broke 4 piece for ilvl

[feral ivy]

anyone know if i have to do a certain delve to get a certain gear or its all random?

[spare steppe]

i miss OF guaranteeing enrage in oull

so minor

but so convenient

[runic violet]

Is there a reason I don't see M+s other than TWW dungeons?

[tulip rivet]

Is anyone even bothering with fury this patch at the moment? Seems like everyone is putting us C tier

[olive wraith]

Fury is fine

[winter shoal]

I did 500k more than our next highest dps on sprocket as fury

[uneven bough]

@runic violet check filters in group finder

[runic violet]

oh!

[spare steppe]

Fury is fun and pumps

[earnest canyon]

Nice....finally got a new wep that is 10 ilevels higher from a delve as fury loot spec.....
its a 1 hander.....

https://tenor.com/view/json-error-computer-smash-punch-mad-gif-17865858

[winter shoal]

That's why you always stay in arms loot spec

[earnest canyon]

Is that really a thing? Still a newb at warrior so not sure when people are memeing

[winter shoal]

Yes

[earnest canyon]

oh ok, thanks for the tip

[winter shoal]

You'd only ever be fury loot spec if you want to play SMF (~8% dps loss) or if you're prot but want to roll on dps trinkets

[earnest canyon]

damn I wish I had known this before....but it makes sense actually as fury can use 1h weps

[winter shoal]

arms and fury have the same loot tables except arms doesn't have 1h weapons

[earnest canyon]

just didnt think about it

used to huntard where ranged wep = ranged wep and only huntards want them

[heavy dock]

anyone know why my avatar isnt loading on the weakaura?

[winter shoal]

What are the load conditions

[heavy dock]

uh

[south kayak]

load dn

[heavy dock]

same as my recklessnes if u mean load

[winter shoal]

Check the spell ID

[heavy dock]

oh ok..

ig it was this right?

[winter shoal]

If you use ava, is the spell ID of its buff the same one that's in the trigger?

[winter shoal]

I don't know what this is doing tbh

It's checking if you have a talent, but not checking for a talent

[heavy dock]

yea it wasnt selected apparently

[winter shoal]

Would love to but SOA just better these days

[heavy dock]

working now lol

[calm island]

fury prio feels really good in +8 and up

[quiet breach]

I'm a fresh 80, should I switch to arms loot spec?

[clever path]

Should always be in arms loot spec while playing arms or fury

[quiet breach]

will u get shittier secondary stats on gear in arms loot spec? or is that not affected

[clever path]

Getting 1 hand weps is the worst thing that can happen to a fury spec player lol 😂

Not affected

Just makes sure you get 2hand weps

[floral belfry]

when do we drop 4set s1 and go 2set s2

sim?

[earnest canyon]

im annoyed at myself as I did quite a bit of reading but nowhere was this made obvious and in massive letters

i cant think of another class where this is an issue

[sullen dove]

death knights probably

[earnest canyon]

ah on dk i just play frost

seems to be a plate thing?

[sullen dove]

assume frost can get 1hand and 2handers so if you want 2hander prolly focus blood/uh and just rng 1handers as frost

i mean just specs where they can use 2 different types of weapons between 1handers and 2handers which probably isnt a lot

dont think casters count

cuz like staves vs sword/offhand is whatever

they dont use the weapons for their abilities its just stats

cant target one over the other

[earnest canyon]

i could have been rocking a 636 2hander now but instead i got a 1hander that is a 3.5% dps loss

only time i thought about loot spec was melee huntard vs ranged, and if i want tank loot vs dps

didnt think about it as melee dps vs melee dps

[gilded pawn]

For frost it’s messed up

You can’t garauntee 1h

And 1h is usually the meta

Not always but 60% of the time

[wanton mirage]

amorphous relic and ratfang toxin any good?

[winter shoal]

Sim

[sullen dove]

Aren’t these delve relics

[winter shoal]

Nope same items

[sullen dove]

how you simmin that

[winter shoal]

Top Gear

Amorphous relic is an item characters can get

it's stinky, but you can get it

[haughty token]

what is the bad tier piece

[winter shoal]

Legs according to the wowhead guide https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/bis-gear

[haughty token]

thats what i was thinking too

[mossy nimbus]

is there a recommendation on how to use the mr walk n stalk trinket? when do i use the ST mode and when do i switch to MT? Is it always better, when there is more than 1 target?

[cerulean edge]

Howdy all, this has probably been asked a hundred times by now, but could i get some quick clarification on how much emphasis we place on Slaughtering Strikes? Both with Brutal Finish as well as in general?

With Brutal Finish do I want to try and get 5 stacks of Slaughtering Strikes by using any additional RB procs I get, or is it better to Rampage as soon as enrage drops off.

And in general, do we prioritise hitting Rampage at max Rage or using all available RB first to build Slaughtering Strikes?

At the moment I often find myself rage capping very quickly, while still having RB to hit, sitting at a 5 Bloodcraze stacks and having a Sudden Death proc 😅 all at the same time

[sour frigate]

Smash buttons.

[somber lance]

^

[winter shoal]

Rampage if your enrage is going to fall off regardless of SS stacks

[modest condor]

if brutal finish is up you spend all your raging blow charges before you rampage

otherwise you just dont really look at it

[eager thorn]

does leaping drop bombs on gallywix?

[cerulean edge]

Roger that. So Brutal finish = use all charges available, any other time Rampage if enrage falls off.

But we're happy to be rage capped if we still have one or two GCDs left inside enrage?

[modest condor]

no

with AM you dont want to overcap on rage anymore

that's only an RA thing

[cerulean edge]

Ok, I thought it was odd to be capped so much with AM it felt counter productive. We've got a lot of buttons to hit at the moment 🤣

[modest condor]

if reck is up -> press rampage asap
if reck is not up -> you can use 1 more gcd before you rampage but it's not important, as long as you dont overcap on rage

[winter olive]

are people saving spark for 2h or just crafting duskthread

[lucid thorn]

So how's fury doing in raids?

[winter shoal]

Very good

[lucid thorn]

cool cool

[cerulean edge]

sweet, thanks @modest condor I appreciate you

[lucid thorn]

I was thinking about off speccing fury for raids and doing tanking for m+

[heavy dock]

are we pressing cleaved burst of power bloodthirst during ravager? or just letting it go? afaik it doesnt cleave right

if its procced by unhinged

[winter shoal]

Unhinged does not cleave, correct

From the APLs I've seen, burst of power isn't worth worrying about

Just use BT as normal

[fickle cedar]

wtf is this

[modest condor]

no it doesnt matter

starting at 3 targets manually casting bloodthirst with burst of power starts pulling ahead but we're talking less than 0.1% difference so it's completely negligible

[mint obsidian]

fury looking nice guys?

[winter shoal]

Yes

[open prairie]

The best part about this raid so far

[sullen dove]

some gamers

[open prairie]

is watching how many people get run over by the cars in the trash area

[heavy dock]

i see ty

[remote bobcat]

huh

funny scaling?

[dense fulcrum]

are the bis citrine in wowhead updated?

[winter shoal]

#updates-midnight message

[dense fulcrum]

ye windsinger and the other 2?

still the same?

[quiet breach]

is gallywix the final boss of this new raid tier or the old one?

[spare flame]

anyone using odyns fury in m+? man i miss it, was wondering if theres a talent build that someone cooked

[dense fulcrum]

this tier

[quiet breach]

who was final boss of last tier

[spare flame]

ansurek

[quiet breach]

was that an important guy in the campaign?

I just did the campaign and I don't remember him

[spare flame]

yeah part of the nerubian campaign

[quiet breach]

is that the queen

[dense fulcrum]

yes

[quiet breach]

ohhh

if I do the LFR for that tier will I get to see epic cinematic

of killing her

[spare flame]

you do

[quiet breach]

or do I only see that at higher difficulty

nice

[devout totem]

[winter shoal]

#fury message

[winter shoal]

[quiet breach]

is LFR still tank every mechanic and not die tier of difficulty

like it was back in the day

[spare flame]

i miss the instant enrage + whirlwind buff

[winter shoal]

Do you miss instantly ripping aggro in keys and dying tho

[heavy dock]

slayer ravager is a build now?

im sorry but that sounds so cursed lol

[winter shoal]

For arms yes

Not for fury

[spare flame]

bro true as fuck

[void oxide]

I come from loot a hero esque weapon I to go up it or not

[dusty brook]

why does wowhead suggest M+ neck (Strapped Rescue Keg) as BIS instead of Mug'zee neck with haste/mastery?
https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/bis-gear

[young zenith]

any vicious contempt WA tracker for when to click juicy bloodthirsts?

[quiet geyser]

Why do you need a WA for VC?

[winter shoal]

https://wago.io/ObHDOFhMm

[sage karma]

ugh I don't like Anger Management

[young zenith]

tysm

[true sequoia]

I was just in a raid there with my guild and our shadow priest was absolutely insane, topped the charts by a margin... didn't know they were that good!! Feral druid was second!

[earnest canyon]

same, so I dont play it 😄

[quiet breach]

did u represent fury gang

[ornate gust]

I hate it so much.. the de-sync is so bad 🤦🏻‍♂️

[true sequoia]

Tried my best 😂 I wasn't the worst dps though!!

[civic cloud]

hey just a general question, if im trying to play both fury and arms in the tier, what stats should the crafted items be ? crit haste ?

[mint obsidian]

damn, warriors really low lol

[dusty brook]

why are there so massively different suggestions for BIS gear? one list suggests almost strict mastery>haste>vers and basically no crit, while the other suggest a neck and ring with crit focus

[earnest shuttle]

well, seems like I got a nice trinket from delves today

[turbid needle]

play prot

[lost bison]

we are so back (hc)

[junior crag]

Signet of the priory trinket good?

[quiet breach]

what are the loot systems that guilds use in retail?

[dry dragon]

sorry havnt really been paying attention to discord and stuff is the tier set bug well known?

[flat river]

which delve is this from btw

or is it any delve

[earnest shuttle]

it was a lvl 11 delve, I believe it could be in any delve, this was the reward from the delve map

[flat river]

aight

[potent thicket]

so, finish story, spam delves up to 8, do bountifull,

also lfg was fun 620 top dps

[earnest shuttle]

and if you can, do delve 11

those give gilded crests

21 gilded crests in total

7 per lvl 11 delve, 3 chances weekly

[potent thicket]

how tf do i get on top of the building to use boom balloon

found it

also, quests give so much rep.

[civic tundra]

any1 knows if simulation craft is bugged with new tiers?

[feral ivy]

if we dont time a key how many crest we get?

[earnest shuttle]

second hit of the day on delves, at least is something, not as strong as the trinket tho

[potent thicket]

how am i already 2k capped valorstone

also check every faction quartermaster for easy crests and valorstone

[chrome plover]

i think they made valorstones quicker

[chrome plover]

depends on key level now

e.g. u get 10 gilded from a +7 and 6 if you deplete, but 16 gilded from a +10 and 12 for a deplete

[dusty brook]

it doesnt matter for the vault if you time a key or not. the only important thing is how many M+ you finished and on which difficulty. Shoould be 1 /4/8 Keys for 1/2/3 crests. The minimum difficulty sets the item level of each crest

[forest owl]

so i guess as fury we want our 1st craft to be a 2hander, when can we do that, 3rd week?

[potent thicket]

i spammed s1 dungeons just to get used to the rotation and ohoo im capped

[proud hinge]

why do the icy-veins and wowhead guides say different things when they are by the same guy

[potent thicket]

bipolar issue

[civic tundra]

need help

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jAaXnBV6XxHDweigjJbwqQ what im doing wrong here

why 2p-2p is the worst

[winter shoal]

What's the problem?

You asked it to give you the best gear from your options

It did

Equip that gear

Do dam

[civic tundra]

but in every guide 2ps1-2ps2 its better

[quiet breach]

at what key level do u stop getting benefits from going higher and its just for epeen?

[winter shoal]

The guide doesn't know what other gear you have

[quiet breach]

like gear or crest benefits

[winter shoal]

For ilvl I think it's 10, for crests it's 12

[quiet breach]

is there anything else like, do u get a better weekly vault item for going higher, or do you get more valor stones, or something else?

[winter shoal]

No

Just io

There's an achievement at I think 2850

Where your keys don't deplete once you've done everything at that level

Like if you've timed all 12s, you won't deplete below a 12

[quiet breach]

does that mean if you ever once timed a +12, you can troll in anything below that and your key doesn't brick?

for the whole season?

[winter shoal]

Only if it's your own key

But I mean in that case you're also wasting the time of the other 4 people right

It's meant to just be like a safety net

[quiet breach]

dang I guess selling +12 carries must be a big business then

just gotta do 1 and ur set for the whole season

[winter shoal]

You need all dungeons on that level

So you need all 12s timed

Then all timed on 13 to not deplete below 13

[quiet breach]

so a 8 +12 keys with any affixes one for each dungeon, if you time all of them

does it have to be your own key every time?

[winter shoal]

12s always have the same affixes but yeah

No don't have to be your own key each time, but the not-depleting only applies to your own key

[quiet breach]

and this "protection" only starts at +12

so if u get to +11 and then brick

[winter shoal]

It's when you're 2850 I think but yeah

[quiet breach]

u have no protection?

well ig u have to do all 8 anyway

[winter shoal]

I think it's <=

[quiet breach]

bad phrasing srry

I mean like

[winter shoal]

so your 11 won't deplete

[quiet breach]

if you've done all 8 dungeons on +10, do you have the protection up to +10?

[winter shoal]

No

It's part of the keystone legend achievement I believe

[runic brook]

anyone have winning streak weakaura

[potent thicket]

whats the fastest delve to do?

[winter shoal]

There's no reason to track winning streak

[runic brook]

i would just like to look at the number formy tism purposes

[winter shoal]

WA should walk you through making one then

If you open the addon and in the top right it should have "simple premade auras"

[runic brook]

fair it is a simple buff just curioius if anyone made it

[quiet breach]

u only get 1 key per week?

[winter shoal]

and it'll go through the process of making one

[winter shoal]

you can run as many as you want

[quiet breach]

yeah but ur own key I mean

[winter shoal]

You get one keystone but it'll go up/down and you can reroll which dungeon it is

[quiet breach]

if u deplete it u have to wait till next Tuesday to get another?

[winter shoal]

No it'll just go down a level

[quiet breach]

ohhhhhh

[winter shoal]

So if you brick a 6 rookery it becomes a 5 rookery

[quiet breach]

I'm assuming bringing your own key is the best way to get a group quick as a dps

[winter shoal]

Yes

[quiet breach]

since u don't have tank healer privelege

even if u deplete ur key u still get the loot for the run if u finish right? so people won't insta drop group if there's a wipe or whatever?

[next ruin]

How did you guys deal with cauldron of carnage as fury? Full st, avatar really early, roar on pull or keep for first phase?

[olive wraith]

I ripped it on pull

[deep sapphire]

About what ilvl pieces should I drop tier 4 set for?

[forest owl]

if i want to add a main hand on use to a macro what is main hand slot number for that?

[olive wraith]

Sim will yell you

[next ruin]

You just pressed cd's on pull then on cd and if it didn't sync it is what is it?

[olive wraith]

Yup

Holding for intermission would be a huge loss probably

[dusky moon]

You make it sound like the end of an episode where there's a villain maniacally laughing in the background

https://tenor.com/view/evil-laugh-gif-16544958915984996688

[quiet breach]

y'all, is m+ easily puggable up to +12?

[dusky moon]

As long as you're not a fury warrior yes

[quiet breach]

(not necessarily week 1 but like, in a few weeks when we are settled into the new season)

[winter shoal]

later in the season yeah

Like a few months from now

[olive wraith]

Probably not easily

You’ll spend a lot of time sitting in lfg

[next ruin]

First boss you hold avatar for damage Amp phases tho right?

[dusky moon]

You know you're not at peak of serenity right

[slate sinew]

Why isn't Torq's button simmed on Wowhead BIS list?

[olive wraith]

Honestly I forgot what I did for first boss

[dusky moon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/253446173774315520/1060610510803980288/skateboardge.gif

[next ruin]

I didn't get the joke

[dusky moon]

Refer to the above gif

[next ruin]

Oh cos my discord name right

[dusky moon]

Yes 🙂

[next ruin]

My bad forgot about it

[dusky moon]

And I'm just teasing you

[acoustic coyote]

do we ever hold avatar for reck or vice versa or just send?

[robust basin]

You have got to be fucking kidding me

Last vault of the season and the myth one finally drops

[earnest canyon]

upgrade that bad boy asap!!!

[robust basin]

Lmao, can't

[next ruin]

Do we know why maxroll says to go vc in aoe build, while the discord says to go deft instead?

[winter shoal]

Someone probably does, I don't

Personally I play with VC and 1/2 DE

No AJ

[earnest canyon]

i know 😦

[dry dragon]

Is the tier set bugg already known/ being fix'd?

[young swan]

what bug

[winter shoal]

These were the sims I ran with different combinations of VC/AJ/DE https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5rRCXGeUyk99sKtVuEH1zK

[dry dragon]

u get 4p when u only have 2p equiped?

[next ruin]

I'd give those builds a try too with my gear on raidbots tomorrow, thanks

[royal copper]

Something positive changed for Fury, right? Feels better and seems like output dps is better too.. (MT)

[forest owl]

the only time im getting rinsed in m+ is with big pulls as thane, as expected i guess with the cap still shafting us

[young swan]

nothing changed that wasnt already in last week

[quiet breach]

do I pick single target talent build or multi target talent build when wowhead says this about a fight?

[clever path]

theres a cheat sheet

only one boss ive seen uses full single target

but it should also depend on what your team has

[edgy widget]

for Fury, I would just go multitarget build on all (except Sprocket obviously) until you get a feel for it

[clever path]

and what youre supposed to be doing

yeah what archi said

[edgy widget]

the diff between ST and MT builds is very small, so you're not really losing anything

[earnest canyon]

would that be thane MT or Slayer?

[edgy widget]

and if you determine adds are getting overkilled to the point you can't cleave effectively, just swap next time (since they'll only get killed faster week to week)

Slayer, adds very rarely ever live long enough in raid encounters for Thane to do anything

[earnest canyon]

Ok thanks

[next ruin]

Is keeping roar for adds something you do in this raid?

[edgy widget]

you can keep roar regardless, but yes

if you determine that you don't need Imp WW/MC because adds don't live long enough to manually cleave, just swap to full ST and time your BS/Roar for w/e adds you can instead

[quiet breach]

ok thx. btw I was looking at what talents to pick for last tier LFR don't have ilvl to do current lfr yet

but if multi target is almost as good il just do that

[edgy widget]

LFR is the definition of non-competitive so you can do just about anything in there up to and including going completely afk

[quiet breach]

yeah but I'm not gonna waste reps

I don't care enough to look at mechanics ahead of time for LFR but I at least want a decent spec lol

[next ruin]

Thanks for your answers, on fights where adds spawn 15-20s in, would you hold anything? I wanna know proper play in general

[winter shoal]

Revvez guide says thane for Stix but that seems like bait idk

[edgy widget]

I mean his guild might have a strat we don’t, but I’d call it highly circumstantial at best

Very high level groups are good about having only a few people dedicate on adds while everyone else goes full ST for (more important) boss dance

In most groups though, everyone just tries to snipe adds first so they can “parse” lol

[winter shoal]

Yeah I don't think I'm likely to make up the 8% dps loss on boss with pad on adds as thane tbh

[winter shoal]

My guild tries to do this and they also suck at it for the most part so it's a double grief

[edgy widget]

Plus if your ball people are good, they’ll pick up most of the adds anyway

Only thing I can think of for thane is increased AoE range with Crackling, and because TC does more direct damage using that to hit adds, but I don’t think they’re nearly sustained enough for TC to be worth - bladestorm lines up pretty well with each set

[winter shoal]

as am or RA?

[edgy widget]

Might be some M tech I’m not tracking yet though we shall see

[winter shoal]

For BS I mean

[edgy widget]

Well I actually played Arms on H Stix, but probably AM

I played Fury on N, but it was so jokes there was basically no AoE anyway

[winter shoal]

Heard, ty Archi

Hope you havent been TOO busy this week

[quiet breach]

does anyone have a weakaura that will show a lit up rampage icon if im not enraged?

[upbeat plume]

I know its not going to translate to mythic or once people get there 4 sets, but its really nice to see fury warriors up on the damage to bosses category on logs lol

[winter shoal]

No but that should be very easy to make
Add a trigger > aura > buff > enrage > show when aura missing

[edgy widget]

I prefer to do the opposite and show when the buff is up instead

[quiet breach]

i have a bar that shows when the buff is up but i feel like personally it will work better for me to see the glowing enrage

[winter shoal]

Archi for hc Rik you think RA fury makes the most sense bc of the intermission, or cleave slarms?

[quiet breach]

shit i should probably have one with a lit up whirlwind when i dont have whirlwind active

yes i realize it will always be there on ST

the bars really aint my thing

[forest owl]

anyone know why some people play windsingers over skippers?

[marsh girder]

hi guys did u played fury on 11.1 is it fine ? or arm way better ?

Bcz im starting tomorrow and I still don’t know which spec for mm+

[olive wraith]

Both are fine

[marsh girder]

Aight ty so much

I’ll go fury

[azure holly]

I have a HC weapon with haste & mastery (high mastery) is it worth upgrading it using HC crests already or is that dumb?

maybe I could craft HC armor but weapon probably has more impact

I'd have 45 left so not the end of the world tho

[keen sequoia]

what are we crafting this week?

[young swan]

#updates-midnight message

[spare steppe]

how come thane was recommended for the clash fight? is it just the 20s period

[young swan]

ye

[runic cypress]

This any good chat?

[winter shoal]

If you ever ask if a piece of gear is good, the answer is sim

But yes it's probably quite good

[young swan]

vendor it

[runic cypress]

Ok thanks

[young swan]

ur welcome

im assuming ur being sarcastic here btw

[runic cypress]

[winter shoal]

Xan what are your thoughts on RA vs AM fury vs cleave slarms on H Rik

[quiet breach]

[young swan]

i just played arms with ST talents

im pretty sure

yeah i just played pure ST

and used sweep

[winter shoal]

We can't craft 2h for another 2 weeks right

[modest condor]

correct

[winter shoal]

What the heck do I spend my crests on this week then

I guess just poopsock M+ and send on random non-tier hero gear?

[potent thicket]

did the realms just crash

[dense fulcrum]

maintenance i guess? for eu

ye last 1h till 4 am

[drowsy sage]

where did you see this?

i cant find any info

[dense fulcrum]

i logged back to the character select

[drowsy sage]

ah alrighty nice

[feral ivy]

someone in raid said "give balance druids a /pull 15" why?

[restive peak]

I’d sit everything til first vault unless you’re top 50-100 and your guild says send it

[dense elbow]

I upgraded my 3/6 HC weap to 4/6, I am a rebel

[quiet breach]

got a wep out of my radiant cache :cyberdance:

[winter shoal]

On cauldron you pop 90s 10s prepull so they're back up for the middle part but it's kinda fake

[eager thorn]

this sounds so unfun

[quiet breach]

just got a fracftured spark from turning in a blue quest that thing is super important right?

should i not turn this in until i know exactly what im doing?

[dense elbow]

You can turn it in, you get an item used in crafting gear. You should do your research on what you want to craft for you.

[inland vector]

Fine to turn it in, it will just sit in your inventory until you use it in a craft. Probably want to hold on for the next couple of weeks until you can get another so you can craft a 2h weapon, unless you plan on getting myth 2h before then

[dense fulcrum]

server up

[celest sierra]

ive noticed casting avatar, then recklessness thunderous roar etc

hits harder then casting reck first

true or false

[quiet breach]

switched to arms spec, immediately got a 629 2h polearm, @winter shoal

[sick viper]

I just started this patch lmfao

now I realized I have to get gear smh

[oak rain]

Hey guys, quick question. Is it worth it to let go of your 4pc tier for upgrades?

[olive wraith]

Sims told me ilvl>s1 tier

Sim yourself

[royal copper]

I would recommend to wait till you’ll find at least 2 pcs heroic - new set.

Chest, and pants (I think pants are next highest value main stat)

[sick viper]

raid music this patch is way better than last one

[olive wraith]

Or just sim

[oak rain]

thank you very much

[feral ivy]

on gally are we suppose to instant interrupt ive done it twice now on auto piolet lol

idk what the name of the cast is called

[craggy dirge]

does anyone have a Weak Aura for Thunder Blast?

[quiet breach]

i was able to make that enrage weakaura based on your tip! thanks so much @winter shoal

[olive wraith]

What for?

Like what do you want the wa to do for thunder blast

[craggy dirge]

honestly just trying to get Thunderclap to change to thunderblast icon. Or just pop up when thunderblast is available.

[olive wraith]

Doesn’t base ui do that

[warped fiber]

U can make a new WA by using the template/pre-made WA as well it changes for mine at least

[thick fossil]

First kill of heroic Lockenstock, that's gonna be the new Painsmith.

[modest condor]

wait until you see the bosses that come after

[thick fossil]

Oh I know

Not looking forward to Mug'zee

I still think Lockenstock being the new Painsmith wall. So much coordinated movement that's gonna be needed.

[sullen dove]

not bad

[sick viper]

this raid harder than last one?

[dense elbow]

1st of many upgrades. I pray for your fortune this week

[sick viper]

or is it a joke like df s2 raid

[thick fossil]

So far, in my opinion. About the same from what I've seen.

[sick viper]

so piss ez

[thick fossil]

Once ppl learn em, yeah

[slim grotto]

I remember in S1 there was a minmax gearing guide that said what you should upgrade each week and craft to maximize crest usage. Someone have that for s2?

[olive wraith]

How does a guide predict what you loot

[slim grotto]

It was about crest usage based on item track. I think it was Larias' guide.

[young swan]

last 3 on heroic are mythic bosses

[sick viper]

ouch

[sullen dove]

heroic best in slots still 50k dps higher than a 658 stix weapon lol

[sick viper]

im 611 itm lvl

[somber lance]

is RA dead in raid

[upbeat plume]

on paper no, but Ive been testing it, most fights with adds the timings are super wonky so ams way better, ST its about the same

least from my own experience

[young swan]

ive been prefering AM

for basically every fight

[olive wraith]

I was trying RA on the reverb guy

Felt okay but it was only normal so I have no clue

[eager thorn]

Am has felt very nice for raid

[lean heart]

sprocketmonger is an insane fight

super good

[clever path]

just beat heroic sprock was honestly easily understood for me

was fun

[lean heart]

yeee

[modest condor]

im ngl i dont even mind the "spam rb after bladestorm" thing

[slim coral]

Not bad

[sullen dove]

only 6/8

[slim coral]

yeah was waiting to see if I could get the heroic one

https://tenor.com/view/gobby-goblin-gif-18803781

[sullen dove]

after normal?

your guild would have to be brain damaged if you got normal then give you heroic

[clever path]

I was able to get a champ eye of kezan and the delve trinket

Feels good

[sullen dove]

[clever path]

The feral Druid on my team got the best In slots on our first kill

Sadge

[young swan]

mugzee a lil freak ass bitch vro

[clever path]

Haven’t gotten there on heroic yet, got to the casino tonight. Monday we will see if we get rolled by the vending machine

[outer umbra]

anyone recall the scrolling battle text gajeel used during abberus or w.e? the abilities and damage it did would shoot out from the top of a mob

[winter shoal]

We spent the whole night on h stix

[outer umbra]

and trickle down

[winter shoal]

That fight is so fucking bad

[young swan]

vending machine kinda fucked

mugzee worse

literally mythic mid boss in any past tier (pre-tww)

its insane

heroic boss

btw

[sudden tusk]

heroic difficulty curve

kinda wild ngl

[young swan]

yeah its wild

madox is dmg splitting

[sudden tusk]

yeah we just finished 2 splits of 6/8 and are just doing mains for mugzee +

[young swan]

yeah

good choice

[sudden tusk]

we barely met the damage check with helpers on one armed

[indigo arch]

So when is fury tier getting buffed

[young swan]

prob isnt

[modest condor]

[sudden tusk]

withno tier fury is stronger

with tier arms is better for fight design

we got 1 zenith helm in splits

no tier week 1 i explode

[smoky vale]

🙂

ish vs me

💀

[quiet breach]

ok i made a whirlwind tracker that makes a cat sound when i have no whirlwind and an enrage tracker that makes a panther growling sound when i have no enrage

this addon is FUN dude i need to explore it more

[modest condor]

speaking of sounds, i need to change one of my weakauras so the bloodthirst and execute one dont make the same sound lol

altho tbf it's not like i often play slayer

[quiet breach]

my bloodthirst wa is complicated unlike my basic ass ones i made

so idk how i could get the sound to work the way i want it

ima have to tinker

il lookie at the settings

[hardy shuttle]

I just muted the BT one since it's the only WA I have with that specific glow. Peripheral vision just sends it

[crude ridge]

Well shit bois it was nice but get ready for the nerfs to roll in

/salute

[quiet breach]

looks like melee in general is insane

[quiet breach]

is this for overall the whole raid or just one boss?

[crude ridge]

Overall

[modest condor]

it's too early to say anything with most people not having their tierset yet

if blizzard nerfs fury based on this they're genuinely just lost

[crude ridge]

I know I'm just memeing from last tier

[quiet breach]

why is melee destroying so hard

[hardy shuttle]

Because all the caster tier sets are like 15-20%

[sudden tusk]

teir sets baby

[crude ridge]

It's also because most bosses will be pretty rough on melee with downtime

[quiet breach]

wait ur saying its rough but they are annihilating that entire graph

[crude ridge]

yes melee got a lot of buffs to make up for said downtime

[quiet breach]

ah I see

[crude ridge]

it'll be worse in mythic

[clever path]

Yeah mythic is where it’ll show hopefully blizzard doesn’t kill us because of one week of decent raiding

[sudden tusk]

@young swan mugzee gaming

[modest condor]

gamer

[smoky vale]

ive gotten 1 item from raid ama

[sudden tusk]

i still havent gotten any tier we got hosed on zenith

[young swan]

holy

[sudden tusk]

otherwise id be playing arms

[young swan]

do u have real gear

[smoky vale]

0

[young swan]

cause im basically gaming with nerubar gear

[sudden tusk]

im kinda real

[smoky vale]

im fighting against ish with this

xd

[young swan]

ok yeah blow up

[smoky vale]

xddddddddddddddddddddd

[sudden tusk]

AHAHAHA

[smoky vale]

xXDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

@sudden tusk xddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd

[sudden tusk]

smile

[smoky vale]

blow the fuck up

[modest condor]

can we ban madox

[sudden tusk]

madox for ban

[young swan]

madox for white

[smoky vale]

when will i get a 2h sword

the world may never know

[young swan]

honestly only beating me by 100k with double bis trinket + bis + crafted

is gross

die

[smoky vale]

blow up

[young swan]

i had mark of khardros for kill

[smoky vale]

xd

you too

@young swan

blow up

[young swan]

are u stupid

U HAVE A 658 WEAPON

DIE

[smoky vale]

no

thats ish

i have a fucking ascensoin

the button is the only thing i have man

[modest condor]

i got ilvl 645 boots

[young swan]

"yeah u got 2 pieces of gear from normal and heroic combined u should die"

im gonna ban u kid

[sudden tusk]

me no craft

[winter shoal]

Bro is zooted tf

[sudden tusk]

im on gamer gummies

[sullen dove]

1 out of 7 wowie

gajeel type beat

[eternal sundial]

Fix mog and loot will come

[sick viper]

I'm on crack

[young swan]

bis mog i fear

[eternal sundial]

Maces is not legal

[young swan]

they look cool

[eternal sundial]

French Canadian opinion

[calm obsidian]

Is it right that we should have our loot spec as arms instead of fury, to avoid getting one handed weapons? It sounds bizarre

[oblique trail]

It's right

[calm obsidian]

So always have the loot spec on arms ?

[oblique trail]

Yes

[calm obsidian]

Okay, thank you

[oblique trail]

It's the exact same loot table except for 1handers, and we never use 1handers except if it's your only option

[slim coral]

I was holding to trade

dumb dumb

[sullen dove]

mmmmm prolly better the heroic one goes to jtp

[slim coral]

[quaint forge]

fury stonks rising?

at least in raid?

[fading sky]

Fury good

[summer quail]

Theyre at the top now, will fall once everyone gets tier

[fading sky]

When u play slayer

Do u play multi target?

[covert blaze]

common xan cope

[fading sky]

645 weapon what a boss

[bright sable]

When do I break the S1 set?

When sims tell me to?

[summer quail]

Yes

[spark girder]

Was wondering wtf was wrong with the discord today, its usally not this «twitch chat aids», then noticed I had opened fury instead of arms

[oblique trail]

what

[covert blaze]

dw guys i asked

[earnest canyon]

twitch ad?

[restive peak]

Bro like 25 M+ already, finally a fuckin wep

[river reef]

priority overall slaps

[earnest canyon]

grats, what did u get?

[restive peak]

TOP 1

[earnest canyon]

ofc u did 🤣

grats man

[restive peak]

Thanks big dog

[mossy fox]

i did 35 runs yesterday

but wage cage today

[next ruin]

The "dumbed down yet efficient" ra fury rotation is to use both crushing blow and bloothbath when available, same rotation outside of reck?

[clever belfry]

I have done 0 keys 😎

[earnest canyon]

same

[upper grove]

Craft wrist first or wait for 2nd spark for weap?

I mean ik more weap more dam but

jw 🙂

[oblique trail]

I've only done 17

I must be noober

And throughout those 17 runs, I still don't know how to play colossus good

[clever belfry]

it goes woosh and wooshwoosh

all u gotta know

[calm island]

im so pissed

i got the best in slots and didnt realize it had an animation to double your stamina or give you strength so iwent through all of my raid missing 32000 strength

4200*

[potent thicket]

maan i barely did a dungeon, and the server crashed on last boss

[earnest canyon]

u did too much dps

[clever belfry]

uhhh

out of combat the on use transforms it into an int weapon

just do /use [combat] 16

in any macro you wanna use it in 👍

[floral belfry]

First craft? D:

[restive peak]

Bro noooo

[upper grove]

That's what I'm wondering too, if better to wait for weapon or get wrists now. If you wait for weapon sparks, you'll have the guilded to make max rank (assuming you don't spend on other gear) but that's 2 weeks away and you could use dungeon weapons in the meantime if you get?

[restive peak]

I’m debating crafting my off pieces if I get heroic BIS tm on splits, and a myth track vault wep tues

Then I’ll just go duskweave

[twilit vector]

Does the mechano-core amplifier drop from the bountiful chests?

[upper grove]

Yes. I got and adventurer track from a rare 1st day then champ from bountiful

[twilit vector]

Thanks 👍

[upper grove]

On splits? But true wait for vault

[tidal kindle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898720803586048/1347068264123203644/image.png?ex=67ca7a95&is=67c92915&hm=caef9cf5b18e2bbf6f8b662862464325ad6f4c8f6fb0a9024df90e5ca5e4cd02&

[tardy lark]

https://tenor.com/view/get-blown-up-dog-dog-explosion-sticky-notes-gif-17071604041793579031

[slim coral]

Sorry I looted them all

[smoky vale]

is that really how it works?

[smoky vale]

thought it was just flavor

[hardy bluff]

yea thats why druids and evoker will steal this from you

[smoky vale]

its okay i wont get a single piece of loot anyways

[silent vault]

Can I loot hero track Mechano-core Amplifer from a bountiful delve directly if I have a map?

[tardy lark]

Thats how it worked in S1, so i would guess so

[random raptor]

Worth breaking last tier 4pc for 2pc?

[earnest canyon]

i think probably, even if its purely ilevel

but you can easily sim it

[clever belfry]

u can yes

[median marsh]

there was a WA for spell reflect in s1, anyone knows if its been updated for s2?

[stiff barn]

For me at least 2p at 645 was a small upgrade over my old 4p

But sim it

[red berry]

i got one of those 'alt tier' tokens out of raid

so it was veteran

but i couldn't upgrade it at all.

[shell jackal]

is going 2p/2p the play

or saving catalyst charge for vault

[warm crag]

obviously save for vault lol

its unlikely you gain anything valuable this week from gaining new tier and you're semi likely to fuck yourself over once you reclear and open vault if you already cata ye

[gentle walrus]

Making us be patient...

[warm crag]

you're free to do whatever

if you want short term power to clear 10s go for it

[sullen dove]

short term power looked pretty good when i saw the same name r1 a bunch of normal bosses cuz hes 10 ilvls higher than everyone else at 650

would be perma on the logs scorecard

very vital normal logs

[tardy lark]

normal logs is what liquid and echo is looking for

missed your shot there

[covert blaze]

can I see herreal..

[shell jackal]

is slayer or thane better for DFC? anyone know, or is it just pure preference

[oblique trail]

what is DFC

oh

Darkflame

[iron portal]

Sounds like copycat KFC

[oblique trail]

Shrug just play either one

[iron portal]

Just Dornogal Fried Chicken

[warm crag]

no pic on hand

[summer quail]

thane is just better for everything. however if you wanna play slayer, play slayer

for everything m+*(incase someone is trying to be pedantic)

[clever belfry]

slayer go more spin tho

[gentle walrus]

Spin to win.

[covert blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/dissolve-gif-18144671279500427383

[fading sky]

Am thane anything i should consider?

for M+

[gusty hazel]

[fading sky]

just send rampage

[gusty hazel]

[fading sky]

thx for the quick help i needed when mid key

ah well its fury, slap buttons do dmg

[gusty hazel]

Ill stand by .
When we don’t know what talents you’re running you’d spend more time saying that than it’d take you to click the pins.

[hardy bluff]

you cant change talents mid key so sorry we couldnt help you

[fading sky]

u got my thane ❤️