fury

[lost saffron]

Male Human

[viral gulch]

Proven, red ones are faster.

[high echo]

Yesssirr

[earnest canyon]

damn, humans have been the shittest looking char models since 2004 (and still are)

[cerulean badger]

Would you run slayer instead of MT for Court now?

[edgy widget]

https://tenor.com/view/waaaagon-warhammer40k-ork-orks-battlewagon-gif-15887038

[summer quail]

no

[edgy widget]

damn, must suck not to have eyes

[feral ivy]

when do WQ reset anyone know lol i have none

[earnest canyon]

indeed!

[edgy widget]

Personally, I never really liked Thane on Court, but that's just me

[high echo]

Insane opinion

[earnest canyon]

Correct opinion

[edgy widget]

crazy people always think everyone else is the crazy one

[earnest canyon]

Can I be dave from the takeaway or a fucking orc with massive shoulders?

Im taking the latter

[feral ivy]

i thought noggenfogger made u into a skele or short

[edgy widget]

yes you can be a fucking orc with massive shoulders who stick their weapons through their own shoulders because their combat animations haven't been updated since the hunchback of 2004

10/10 would fantasy again

[earnest canyon]

i thought you were going to say "as i look like an orc in real life, I prefer human"

[edgy widget]

imagine finally adding upright orcs and then forcing all combat animations to still revert back to hunchback, smh my head

[earnest canyon]

orc was one example....my first char was undead

[high echo]

Orc's BT animation is MAD ugly and a little ugly

[earnest canyon]

undead mage

[analog rivet]

gnome is worse, in terms of proportions and animations xD

[edgy widget]

oh so you enjoy playing the hunchback of notremmar

checks out

[high echo]

Human's is one smooth sweep

[viral gulch]

Panda female has the best BT animation

[analog rivet]

giant shoulders, tiny body

[earnest canyon]

humans have always been like "my first animation as an intern" to me

[high echo]

Also like %70 of the races have either their shoulders float, be too big or the helmets don't fit

[analog rivet]

yeah but they found a new intern that did the human animations like every 2 year

[edgy widget]

Also Ogrimmar as a city fuckin sucks

[analog rivet]

aye, Gnomeregan best city

[edgy widget]

I wish it were better, I really do, but it sucks

[earnest canyon]

i feel that about stormwind

[analog rivet]

try Ironforge

[high echo]

Never played tbh

[edgy widget]

Stormwind looks good, it has a nice layout, everything is conveniently accessible

[earnest canyon]

my warrior is dwarf and holy shit your portal place sucks ass

[edgy widget]

and it's got some awesome statues

Orgrimmar is a mud pit

[sly crane]

true

[earnest canyon]

orgrimmar just works

[sly crane]

but nelf best race

[viral gulch]

Check out the BT anim, i'm playing panda only because of that

[edgy widget]

yeah true, SW's portal room also isn't shit

[high echo]

Stormwind also uses this thing called COLOR to differentiate the area

[edgy widget]

Ironforge was also a pretty goated city for old world convenience, if only it had a portal room

[analog rivet]

just play in greyscale and og wins

[analog rivet]

yes plz....

ironforge actually was THE capital for players of the alliance until,... cata

[viral gulch]

Also, for survi hunter, panda female has absolutely the best raptor strike animation, i wasn't able to find anything cooler among other races

[edgy widget]

everyone dunked on Oribos because it was a big circular city, but Ironforge is an example of doing it right - Oribos just sucked

[high echo]

Honestly this is why I kinda like Mage, you can go anywhere and chill in other cities

[edgy widget]

I mean SW is actually just a nice city, it looks like a real city (or as real as you'd get in WoW anyway)

[analog rivet]

yeah but I don't like how they just added a harbour because they wanted to xD haha

[high echo]

Ah. My friend mains a fem Panda and I honestly prefer male characters most of the time lol I would swap to Draenei but too many good reasons not to

[edgy widget]

Orgimmar is just a shit hole; you'd think after 20 years the literal capital of the faction would at least have some real buildings and roads

[high echo]

Old Darna...

[earnest canyon]

I would probs still be mage main if M+ never came out

[edgy widget]

and the verticality in Orgrimmar always sucked, even though it doesn't really matter anymore since everyone has flying at L10

[analog rivet]

just engi, is enough

[viral gulch]

Everyone has a friend who plays fem Panda 😄

[earnest canyon]

wat

[analog rivet]

or a whole raid that refuses to pull until everyone is transmorphed into female panda

[high echo]

This tier my only warrior bro in arms was a panda in a onesie lol made a good distinction between us

[analog rivet]

there are all kinds of teleporters for most places in the world available for engineers

[viral gulch]

Or m+ where one char is fem panda, and 4 others are male kul tirans 😄

[earnest canyon]

Oh....I never bothered with professions since legion I think

[slim coral]

The main issue with shadowlands is that you had to go through oribos to visit other zones and could not travel fast you had to basically wait 10 mins afk on a mount

[edgy widget]

oh I know

[viral gulch]

Smth like that:

[slim coral]

I think if they used the gates to tp you onto the zones instead of flying it would of been ok

[edgy widget]

Tazavesh should have been the capital of Shadowlands
might have actually saved that expansion, ngl

[earnest canyon]

Main issue with shadowlands was it was so shit they basically ignored it and pretended it never happened, even though some parts were good

[high echo]

Was this ever fixed btw? I skipped most of SL and my mage just has HS set there

I've been wondering about this when I went to farm cosmetics yday

[edgy widget]

he's talking about the long ass flight paths
they sort of halfway fixed it with the covenant teleport

[high echo]

You can tp? Ok

[edgy widget]

you can unlock a portal back to Oribos from your covenant sanctum, so you just put your hearth there instead

[slim coral]

Yeah that was rarely useful sadly lol

[edgy widget]

na it was pretty useful

[slim coral]

Only if I was in my sanctum

[edgy widget]

again, that's why you put your hearth on the sanctum and use the portal to get back to Oribos

because you always had reason to go to your Sanctum

[quiet geyser]

Dude, if we're gonna compare horde vs alliance cities, BFA had it the absolute worse

[slim coral]

I mean sure but the other issue then it becomes a loading screen simulator

[edgy widget]

better than a long flight path simulator

idk my loading screens aren't that long

[slim coral]

I like how it is now personally

Seamless transition from zone to zone

No loading screens

Idk why they brought them back for SL

[edgy widget]

well that's cause the zones are contiguous, but Shadowlands weren't by design

Point is you would have instant access to w/e zone your sanctum is in via hearth (not to mention all the sanctum stuff like mission board/changing soulbind shit), and then the portal would take you to Oribos with easy access to Korthia/Maw/Zerith - the only time you'd actually have to take a flight path is to get to the other 3 original zones, which probably wasn't too often by that point

[slim coral]

Yeah so basically you hearth to oribos and still have to fly to the next zone

So it didn’t really give you the instant access still

[edgy widget]

if you just hearthed to Oribos, you'd have to fly all the way to your sanctum, which would take way more time

[analog rivet]

does anyone has an example simc report for me (or raidbots, would grab an instance from that then)

[edgy widget]

yes, which is why you don't hearth to oribos lmao

[edgy widget]

idk what you mean by example, just get the addon and type /simc in game

[slim coral]

No I mean hearth to sanctum then take portal to oribos and you still have to fly to the zone no?

[analog rivet]

yeah I know,... but character in transfer

[slim coral]

Tbf it’s been so long can’t remember exactly

[edgy widget]

fly to what zone though? by the time you unlocked the portal you were rarely going to the original 4 covenant zones anymore

[analog rivet]

and I'm bored xD so wanted to check some elements...

[edgy widget]

on raidbots quick sim there's a spot to look up your character via armory, but idk if that'll work mid xfer

then a button that says "export to simc string"

[analog rivet]

haha let's see, in theory it should work xD I always forget about it because I barely use it, lul

[edgy widget]

I mean if you were hoping to use top gear, that's not gonna work regardless, since you wouldn't be able to pull in all your gear

unless you wanted to recreate it piece by piece via lookup, which sounds... not fun

[analog rivet]

yeah no, just some quick sims, but I just grabbed the public profile, and it worked yeah

[slim coral]

Also do you remember what patch this was implemented

[edgy widget]

public profile is for Season 1, so the entire talent string will be broken

just do what I said lol

[edgy widget]

I don't know if it was a patch feature, I think it might have been launch but it was unlocked really late in the sanctum progression

[analog rivet]

just wanted to have a normal interface to look at the changes in APL instead of crawling the git .simc apl files

[analog rivet]

yeah I meant my public profile from armory xD

haha

just misscommuncation ^^ I did that and it worked

lul

[edgy widget]

I do need to push a new actual sim profile for S2 though

so Bloodmallet can start making new charts

[analog rivet]

xD

[slim coral]

Oh you the anima power progression that’s right

[edgy widget]

yeah I don't recall what it was

[analog rivet]

we're warriors shouting at each others if fine xD jsut head smacking

didn't they remove the skip after shadowlands or some other bs?

so you might have to play the campaign?

[edgy widget]

fuck if I know, I never wanted to go back lol

[analog rivet]

haven't moved anywhere in SL xD either

besides mists

[undone flower]

If you have old sims you can take them and redo it

[edgy widget]

that's a good point, you can just go to your old sims, scroll down to the profile and copy/paste it in

might need to setup new talents for S2, but that part is easy

[analog rivet]

yeah no, talent changes

loading from armory worked fine

[undone flower]

Yeah might need to modify few things in it if it’s before patch

That’s how I do sims on my phone (the site is not well supported on phone so you can’t do few things / like the upgrade crests is stacked with how many crests you have thing for example)

[analog rivet]

nice trick as well ^^

[winter shoal]

Fellas we did it

(very real)

[feral ivy]

idk whats that for but gratz

[winter shoal]

Anotha 1

[sinful spoke]

bro is gonna get us nerfed by farming parses in last week 💔

[feral ivy]

anyone remember or know if ur alt will get the free enchanted crest if u skip the story when its available? i know the main will be getting but idk if ur alt gets it if ur alt skips the whole thing

[earnest canyon]

Do not worry, I will post my grey parses from the new raid

We will get +20% buffs

[patent linden]

Yea you just have to do the small questline

You get it in the big pyramid thing above Ara kara

[winter shoal]

What if I told you the only boss I topped on was rash 🙂

[sinful spoke]

good boy

[sinful spoke]

as u should

[earnest canyon]

They will be grey in week 24

[sinful spoke]

o

im gonna aim for higher parses this tier

[earnest canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/wild-update-gif-25743701

[sinful spoke]

since i guild hopped i couldnt get good parses

i think ifound the guild tho

[earnest canyon]

Yeah im a casual by your standards....if I get aotc im happy

[sinful spoke]

ur not a casual

ur a gigachadd

[winter shoal]

If you're happy you're a gigachad

[earnest canyon]

Ty mate. You made my day ❤️

both of you

[sinful spoke]

comparison is the thief of joy

do not compare urself with others and just have fun

:stonks

[earnest canyon]

Agree. That is why my wife's boyfriend gave me $500 and a switch. Never had so much fun

[sinful spoke]

there u go

[earnest canyon]

Seriously though, I think fury is the play for me this tier

[winter shoal]

AM fury pretty fun

[sinful spoke]

🙂‍↕️

[earnest canyon]

still flows well and is pretty goddamn fun

[pallid tinsel]

any viable slayer build for silken court

[whole yacht]

bingle bong

[earnest canyon]

if you are in some competitive guild then idk what is best

[pallid tinsel]

mythic

[earnest canyon]

oh

then ignore everything I say lol

sorry

[pallid tinsel]

we are reclearing, and logs are not showing builds

[summer quail]

CgEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA0YYMbmZYGjZmZhZmZmZwwMbbzMmZmNMjZmZMzYZYwMzAAAAxYbZgNwEMDTgBbA this is prob fine

[winter shoal]

I'd assume just regular AM aoe slayer would be fine

Or go thane clappa

Or do the Frozenbozo special and colossus arms demolish ethically

[summer quail]

i assume based on the question he doesn't want to go thane at all. i just linked the wowhead aoe slayer build

[winter shoal]

Fair

[pallid tinsel]

Thank you

and yes, just wanted to run slayer

[edgy widget]

#fury message

[restive pewter]

bro this build juices

[edgy widget]

Yeah it's p stronk

[pallid tinsel]

Thank you boss

[sinful spoke]

https://x.com/PaladinBeans/status/1894349383073730665

Beans the Gnome Paladin 💡 ⚙️ (@PaladinBeans) on X

How much do I love paladins?
I bound all my spells to paladin-themed macros🕯️

X · Feb 25, 2025, 11:31 AM

paladin players are disgusting

how could he do this to or class

[covert blaze]

i like how half these icons are passives or spells that dont exist anymore

really says a lot about ret

[smoky vale]

or they could just place the same icons

lol

[young swan]

@modest condor 17 ara

[modest condor]

wowzers

[coral dock]

hey all so are we supposed to be happy right now or are we supposed to be dooming right now

[dapper goblet]

op class

[young swan]

spec bangs

[hallow sphinx]

islander

[smoky vale]

grats on your trial to pc

[young swan]

grats on your trial to pc

[hallow sphinx]

grats on your trial to pc

[sinful spoke]

Delete ur warrior

[sinful spoke]

Grats on your trial to pc

[hallow sphinx]

grats on your trial to pc

[young swan]

@sullen dove u wanna tnak a +11 ara

equip shield perhaps?>

[hallow sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-a-trap-dominic-toretto-vin-diesel-fast-x-they're-luring-you-in-gif-13500803666361148163

[smoky vale]

that guy will not put on a shield

that guy will not

hes on sod

!

[smoky vale]

grats on your trial to pc

[hallow sphinx]

grats on your trial to pc

[sullen dove]

would if i was not helping the less fortunate in a brd run in sod

[smoky vale]

if i dont fall asleep in 3 minutes ill log on

im logging

@young swan

[young swan]

dude

we got tanker men

[smoky vale]

good

[young swan]

;/

[smoky vale]

back to eep

[smoky vale]

grats on your trial to pc

[lapis scaffold]

can someone help me with a pve aoe dps build for dungeons/raids?

[covert blaze]

inv next key pookie

[young swan]

char name + server

:3

also u must equip shield

[covert blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/aww-hell-nahh-aww-hell-aww-hell-nahh-gif-9659330954843262630

what key

[young swan]

no idea

we just do shit

[modest condor]

who even cares about wow im a fellowship main now (for the next couple of days)

[covert blaze]

is it good

i heard terriuble things

[modest condor]

i'm having a good time

idk what kind of terrible things you heard

[covert blaze]

i heard that the game and i quote

fucking sucks

but i havent looked into it myself yet

[red berry]

is that the hobbit game

lord of the rings

[modest condor]

well i've seen people dismiss it before even playing because it uses a hero system instead of a character creator so people will think something sucks for any reason

[covert blaze]

ill have to try it

[sullen dove]

deathroll of all time

[lapis scaffold]

anyone?

kinda lost after the patch

[undone flower]

What is your issue ?

[lapis scaffold]

i want to maximize my dps

been looking at this. what does "dol" stand for?

[coarse widget]

I bet it's DoI, Depths of Insanity

[severe pine]

Depths of Insanity

[lapis scaffold]

i was confused because he said 2/2 depths and dol

so i thought dol was something else

[acoustic yoke]

Aka recklessness lasts longer

[lapis scaffold]

depths only has 1/1 skill point to invest into it though

so if i was going full ST with that build what else would i invest the other point into?

[undone flower]

I think he talks about the talent left with 1/2 points for the 2/2 and taking DoI

[lapis scaffold]

??

which talents?

[undone flower]

Like this

Deft experience I forgot the name sry

Because in his screen he takes the minimum talents to be able to AoE because ansurek require some AoE

Basically

[lapis scaffold]

ah so add another point to deft experience

and depths of insanity

when going st

[undone flower]

Im guessing what he meant yes

[lapis scaffold]

okay cool hopefully he can clarify if he sees this

i feel like odyn's fury is useful for aoe dps

not sure why it isn't included

[light ermine]

Im playing Slayer st raid build with AM. In single target fight should i send all procs of execute from sudden death to get frequent bladestorms or wait until 3 stacks of marked for execution to get more powerful executes?

[unreal onyx]

During reck when enraged I just wanna spam CBs and BBs right?

But CB>BB?

[undone flower]

I didn’t check yet fury talents that much, but like with hacknslash you can hit the jackpot and just hit only CB in reck ?

Technically

[unreal onyx]

Yes

If giga lucky

If not you can also get 1-2 BBs in between that hit for like 2.5mil with current gear

(When crit)

[undone flower]

You have weakauras that can be useful

For sudden death it’s before it expires sry I did a shit screen, and I guess if you have 2 sudden death if it is still a thing

And I press when I’m switching target to consume whatever stacks is on it (in raid) idk if it’s THE thing to do

[slim coral]

idk why fury isn't at 2.93 and arms isnt at 2.96 but ye

[ornate gust]

☠️ Drama and actions ☠️

[slim coral]

assa down bad

[undone flower]

I can add prot war as a dps

[ornate gust]

That’s true too ☠️

Nerf incoming?

[undone flower]

Ofc

[ornate gust]

[undone flower]

Friday as usual a warrior bluepost

[ornate gust]

But we have no strong utility 🙄

[sullen cloak]

I am wondering this too.

[undone flower]

At least with what I see from bazed thing we are all 3 together this time

[lapis scaffold]

how was an arms warrior during better dps than me?

was it because my build is aoe focused?

[undone flower]

It was in raid? What is the context

[lapis scaffold]

it was in dungeons

we were fighting a boss and he posted something in the chat that showed everybody's dps

[undone flower]

Second boss of mists ?

[lapis scaffold]

first

[undone flower]

What key lvl was it ?

[lapis scaffold]

level 2

[undone flower]

Okok try to focus on your own gameplay for now, you are among people who learn too tbh

But for the first boss, you want to damage focus the tree and cd when he stun the other dude

And return focus to the tree the dude when he wakes up again

[keen grove]

What's the talent that makes recklessness give whirlwind stacks I hate having to press whirlwind straight after using it

And also what they do to reckless abandon feels ass now I want S1 fury back

[last sparrow]

It was an odyns fury talent iirc

[lapis scaffold]

idk what you mean

[undone flower]

Im explaining the boss, if you keep focusing the dude after the tree is hostile again you will do no damage to him after a certain time

[lapis scaffold]

oh yea i got that already

my issue isn't with the boss

i want to have better dps as a warrior class

[keen grove]

They removed it? 😭

[undone flower]

Get ilvl and learn while you gear your char, you will know more if you do bad damage in higher keys bc in a 2… you have low ilvl and you compare yourself to other beginning players

[lapis scaffold]

https://discordapp.com/channels/148872210742771712/1237307390865571890 feel like the thread needs to be updated

[last sparrow]

Nah it's the choice node below odyns fury

[undone flower]

They removed it, it was titan’s torment / avatar casting odyn’s fury (with the talent you are showing it enraged you and give ww stacks when you cd)

[covert blaze]

no but you dont play that talent anymore

[undone flower]

(The question was why reck no longer gives ww and enrage, he has macro avatar+reck obviously)

[calm ermine]

Slayer?

[light ermine]

Thank you for yor answer. I have second question. Every guide says i use Reck+Avatar on pull with charge. I play with Berserker Torment, so should i wait 8 sec to use Avatar after Reck or send them together when im charging and "waste" these aditional 8 sec of Avatar?

[tender aspen]

its not wasted, its added to the base avatar duration

[slim coral]

yes you'll go slayer in ST

[light ermine]

Oh, so when i use Berserker Torment talent and press Avatar and Recklness together talent still works and stack duration? IT would be great news for me 🙂 i thought that when i use them together i will waste 8s of it

[clever belfry]

u dont waste any

[undone flower]

Yes you don’t have to worry too much about having the reck+avatar macro

[clever belfry]

just make sure reck is first in the macro, otherwise u don't get extra rage from ava

yes this is still a bug

[keen grove]

They tryna make fury less fun now? And old RA made the rotation feel way more fun imo

[undone flower]

It’s the same just the icon of RB and BT changes now just in reck tbh in my opinion

Odyn fury’s change feels bad yeah but I don’t have fun personally being the padding spec of the game (yes I enjoyed ovinax but I don’t enjoy no ST too)

[flat river]

REAL AND TRUE

[covert blaze]

11.1 fury plays like shit ngl

[slim coral]

feels good to me

[slim coral]

what don't you like about it?

[covert blaze]

the conditionals and the desyncing are so aids

[undone flower]

Oh yeah I personally hate AM slayer if it’s not 45 second add time and just in raid (will not name which boss)

Bladestorm having his own mind

[slim coral]

I didn't find any desyncing issues to come up on ptr you always have reck ravager up with roar and then you just avatar when it comes up

[flat river]

In my opinion

They should make slayer cd reduction count towards recklessness

Change my mind

[radiant plank]

??

[junior gale]

AM 2 electric boogaloo

[radiant plank]

Yeah guys this tree focused on Bladestorm and execute should give reck cdr

[undone flower]

AM should reduce avatar like prot (another thane season)

[flat river]

We need 20 second cd burst

Not my fault

They removed titans tormant

Now they need to reap what they sowed

Or make AM like in PvP and count towards per 10 rage spent

So 8 second cd reduction per rampage

I NEED MY DOPAMINE

[oblique trail]

Do we really now

[flat river]

Also make recklessness enrage you

[flat river]

Real and true

[oblique trail]

Our damage profile has in 11.1 now become quite flat, and if you want a 20 sec CD, said CD will do borderline nothing

Considering we have Onslaught still on the tree, which is basically that

[flat river]

I wish we just had insta enrage

I want burst macro

[oblique trail]

Talent fresh meat

Use reck

[slim coral]

I like the flat profile as it use to feel terrible not having damage outside of cds

[oblique trail]

There you go

[slim coral]

I remember dragonflight season 3

felt terrible

[flat river]

Damage loss

[undone flower]

I like more flat damage (old hunt BM profile)

[covert blaze]

reck ravager

bs has slayer cdr

who cares about thane in a dungeon

[slim coral]

Oh I'm talking about thane

[covert blaze]

im talking raid

[slim coral]

I haven't been able to test it in raid cause we took this week off

[covert blaze]

you have am and bs has extra cdr cause of slayer

it's very weird

i hate it

https://tenor.com/view/i-don’t-want-to-play-with-you-anymore-dont-wanna-play-woody-andy-toystory-gif-11601810263057558835

[elder epoch]

It will eventually line up or you just end up holding a bit

[covert blaze]

sure

it still feels like shit

[gleaming siren]

Can't wait to be prot main for a week next week

[summer quail]

I bet prot will get nerfed before reset

[summer crater]

Do the renown 7 boots really just give intellect?

[thick fossil]

It does, maybe we're just too use to having clean lining up cool downs, but wow does it feel off. Roar, ravager, reck, and Avatar all getting desync now. Yuck.

[oblique trail]

It's weird how dynamic CDR does that

But a lot of people apparently really wanted AM

[undone flower]

I think ovinax contributed to that (where cds are easy to sync with AM since you don’t switch target)

[oblique trail]

People have liked AM well before Broodtwister existed

[undone flower]

Yeah but short memory is what I prefer to choose

To describe people acting

[oblique trail]

It's just because people loved AM a lot from S2/S4 DF, so now they get it again

Yet it also has the awful drawback of not only desyncing CDs from each other, it also makes you one of the most uptime reliant specs in the game

[crude flame]

just testing it right now, and Reck, TR, and Ravager are always sync on 45 secs, just avatar is 1.30

[thick fossil]

Shadowlands we used AM, but you at least had more things sync still.

[oblique trail]

It will be somewhat in sync, assuming you have full uptime yes

But if you don't, have fun

[crude flame]

feel like there is a soft burst/hard burst but all burst have Reck,TR, and Rav

[undone flower]

It’s the slayer thing that is too much with AM

[true sequoia]

Wowhead must have been sniffing glue 😂😂

[warm crag]

warrior is currently tuned so that you want 2 of them on every fight in an extremely ranged heavy raid yea

you might get nerfed again

[thick fossil]

I can confirm Shaman with PI is still .5 mil above without breaking a sweat.

[floral belfry]

How should I respond to / prioritize Burst of Power (upgraded BT)

[warm crag]

just follow the wowhead priority

[floral belfry]

So dont care about it, gotcha

[warm crag]

wowhead most certainly doesnt tell you to ignore it

[summer quail]

I really wanted AM Thane. Slayer cdr+AM is whack

[warm crag]

wtf is this conditional @clever belfry Raging Blow to stack up Slaughtering Strikes while Brutal Finish is active

[slim coral]

whats wrong with it

[oblique trail]

It's a conditional you ignore

[warm crag]

why is this in here

[floral belfry]

No, it ignores it

[oblique trail]

Because it was simmed to be an increase within margin

[warm crag]

burst of power is RA ye

[oblique trail]

I already tried simming without this a few weeks ago and it was quite literally at best 5-6k dps

[warm crag]

5-6k dps is 5-6k dps you will be doing more than me noob

[oblique trail]

Burst of Power is the thane Bloodthirst CD reset proc

[floral belfry]

its mountain thane

[warm crag]

oooh my bad king

[undone flower]

If your weak aura highlights the proc, I suggest to turn it off

[warm crag]

yeah you just play according to the rotation which doesnt care about bt resets

[floral belfry]

alright

[undone flower]

Because I know you want to press it when you see it shines

[floral belfry]

i do

[warm crag]

ok but the RA priority list is just 19 items that can be condensed to like 10

hmmge

[oblique trail]

Probably

[warm crag]

is revvez priority even longer

[oblique trail]

I honestly know nothing about the 11.1 priority

And I will simply look at it and wing it 5 min before raid tonight

[warm crag]

its 13 but he just didnt put RA in there king

king opener

[covert blaze]

have fun (you wont)

[oblique trail]

I will try AM on Ansurek and probably waste AM half the fight

So yes I will not have fun

[heavy galleon]

Fury is really bad this season ?

[oblique trail]

Not sure how you arrived at that conclusion, but no it's not bad

It's in fact slated to be arguably better than it was in S1

[heavy galleon]

I hope they rework fury one day, I love the gameplay but it's feel "old"

[summer quail]

that's coz it is old, been the same for 7 years. but it's designed well

[undone flower]

I think if you take a log cast timeline from fury warrior 5 years ago, you would not be able to tell when it was if you look the main rotation

[forest owl]

when a pug group chooses to solo tank a boss and the tank dies in 20 seconds and you tank the rest of it as fury

[heavy galleon]

Yes even meatcleaver mecanics feels so old today

I wonder why they don't try to change things, like bladestorm without CD, allow to enrage us and spend rage by sec used

[slim coral]

no it's very good

[heavy galleon]

Than just perma use rage with rampage

[undone flower]

Or just remove rage and put charges of anything new, (I know it is core to fury I’m just searching in my mind)

[clever belfry]

that sounds awful no thanks

[oblique trail]

Breath exists if you want that playstyle

[undone flower]

Bc tbh I think they can remove rage and just put RB and BT reset only if you rampage, you don’t change the gameplay at all

But I like fury overall gameplay personally I’m just searching what seems an issue to someone else

[narrow fossil]

Is RA bugged with bloodthirst?

[summer quail]

no? RA has been redesigned

[narrow fossil]

what does now? Im at work

[summer quail]

you only get bloodbath and crushing blow when recklessness is active

[narrow fossil]

ohh shit

why that nerf?

[summer quail]

it's not to nerf it. it's to make our cd matter more

[narrow fossil]

but its a dps lose i guess

[summer quail]

we have gotten gigabuffed on patch day

[calm obsidian]

how we looking boys, just got back from hospital

[unreal onyx]

With same tuning dps loss, but with 11.1 tuning still big gains

[summer quail]

we good

[flat river]

its joever

[calm obsidian]

better,worse or even compare to arms?

[warm crag]

blizzard should hire fans!

[edgy oasis]

Is it me or does the M+ rotation feel spread out. I'm was used to dropping the bomb then dieing ofcourse because I didn't wait 5 GCD before engaging. But now i have to wait for a rampage before roar?? Which is stretched out because of the thunderblast proc???

So.now I am roaring mobs that are 50% HP or lower.

[undone flower]

Isn’t roar like the 4th or 5th gcd ? What key lvl it is for the mob to be 50% hp after 5 seconds of fight ? (curious bc I know scaling is fucked)

[vernal laurel]

Anyone also worried about gearing this patch? 4 of our bis items (weapons and trinkets) are locked behind the last two bosses of the mythic raid 😦

[edgy oasis]

I mean, take what i say with a pinch of salt.

Point I'm making is everything feels stretched out. Other dps getting in their at Tanks 1st GCD smashing all CD

[edgy oasis]

I found it strange that only 1 piece was from mythic +....means vault will suck for us.

[eternal sundial]

Roar doesnt snap shot

Worst case rip it unenraged

If itll cost you tons of ticks

[vernal laurel]

Pretty much, for those of us that dont mythic raid but push high m+

[undone flower]

It was a genuine question bc I did few keys yesterday, in 10s packs die in 10 seconds it’s so funny (I know it is not fun if it’s real season)

[vernal laurel]

it will suck

[oblique trail]

The gallywix weapon supposedly is not that great

[edgy oasis]

Yes, that would make it 10th GCD. If you start behind at 5th...comprenday

[hardy shuttle]

At least there's dinars for the gallywix stuff and BIS, so you can get the big ticket items

[oblique trail]

So you having it or not will not make you lose sleep

The weapon you do care about however is BiS

[edgy oasis]

Exactly.

[hardy shuttle]

And not having many m+ items is honestly a plus after my whole season of no mythic shard

[undone flower]

So your issue is more bc of the key weird scaling rn I think

[oblique trail]

Also caring about best in slot gear is really odd, because most people will legit never have access to it anyway, regardless of their skill level, and you can easily substitute pieces

[edgy oasis]

I know it was a genuine question but you're presuming my comment was based on math.

But in answer, yes. I say, feels as though stuff is less than half Health before I've used all my CD. Which is diff to s1

[young badge]

A question the bladestorm Is it ONLY used in AOE? Or is a CD used in singeltarget as well? I don't know when I should spend bladestorm

[oblique trail]

You use Bladestorm in both AoE and ST

[warm crag]

you usually play unhinged which makes bladestorm a pretty good button to press in your cds ye

[oblique trail]

And when you'd use it is basically together with CDs, or on its own if no other CD is ready within 10 seconds

Especially if you play with Anger Management, holding on to Bladestorm can quickly add up to lost casts

[undone flower]

There is a dinar topic but it will be so far into the season

[gleaming siren]

Blizzard should hire Gio who is Galastronk

[warm crag]

true!

[oblique trail]

Right but to my knowledge Dinars do not give you offpiece M+ items on any track you want

[warm crag]

dinars will be there when key pushers need them

[gleaming siren]

so true bestie

[oblique trail]

And it's for some reason those offpieces people care about the most when they see a best in slot list

[hardy shuttle]

Does anyone have a tracker for slaughtering strikes? Been trying to pull it put of some WA packs where it's included but it never works on its own

[oblique trail]

The best tracker is to not track it

[undone flower]

Yeah, so focus on what you can actually get before the dinar (for those who are thinking long term it is too long of a term)

[edgy oasis]

I don't understand why it is odd.

Having more access to gear that is not major upgrades or simming higher is a indirect nerf to our spec.

S1 had m+ gear mostly as BIS. Meaning you had access to it at 10 keys....having BIS in mythic raid automatically puts you behind any class with M+ as bis.

Let's not get into sim...sim...sim...bis is not bis....argument.

[hardy shuttle]

I really just want it to reference quick after bladestorm for the big rampage

[warm crag]

are you saying +10 end of dungeon loot is bis or +10 vault loot is bis?

[oblique trail]

It's odd because you quite literally will never see the difference in practice whether you have the best offpiece compared to another offpiece with slightly different stats

[edgy oasis]

Yes good point. I'm saying vault.

[oblique trail]

Trinkets and weapons I get, the rest I do not

[summer quail]

but what you said at the end is a very valid argument. bis list is only bis if you have literally every single item on that list, one different item will throw stuff off

[warm crag]

ya idk claiming "bis" pieces are from m+10 vaults being a buff to a spec and it being raid pieces being a nerf to the spec is just wrong lol

bis lists are so volatile that even your race choice can affect them

[oblique trail]

Last I looked a few weeks ago it's at best a 0.2% difference playing around it, doing a sim in a bit to actually see after optimisations

Which is why I said just to not track it

And I doubt it's changed from the 0.2% difference I saw then

[undone flower]

Like banezi I just chase the trinkets and a weapon, for the rest…ilvl…

[warm crag]

especially since every other spec that supposedly has an advantage from being "m+ bis" is also, like you, up to the gods to actually loot the correct pieces from their vault

you're looking at this from a lense that doesn't make sense with how the game is played and optimized

[edgy oasis]

It isn't though. If you best items in principle are from mythic + vault. You've more chance in getting access to them than if they were in raid vault. Fact.

Having a BIS list be solely raid puts the average player at a loss in comparison.

[hardy shuttle]

Thats fair, I've kind of just been spending all of my RB charges after I BS before the rampage and take what I can get. But figured one small tracker wouldn't harm me

[undone flower]

I think Silent maybe you need to understand that you want to be the strongest RIGHT NOW (current week/that’s why you sim your vault)

And from step by step you have the best gear you could have

[warm crag]

ya idk what to say you're right in a way that doesn't matter

[hardy shuttle]

And raid vault is more chances at the bis items anyway regardless of the importance. You can't get mythic track in keys so raid gives you 2 chances vs 1

[warm crag]

you are not really at a loss from technical bis pieces being m+ vault loot since no player will see the technical bis list on their character unless extreme luck is involved

[undone flower]

Idk how to explain him full BiS is like a mirage

[hardy shuttle]

It's a bis set of stats. You can get close to there 50 different ways other than trinkets and weapons

[undone flower]

Yeah exactly

[warm crag]

so up until you somehow fish every single bis item (which btw includes raid items, you're not getting around that with the eye of kezan and whatever), bis lists are merely a collection of items that would be nice to have, not exodia to assemble

[edgy oasis]

Like. I raid. I m+.

Having my bis gear in raid means mythic + vault loot is not as valuable.

Like. I know I'm getting stronger the higher the ilvl in principle.

My argument being, if you spec has mythic + bis. Then you have easier access. As a simple principle.

Bis weps are from final mythic boss. Sure ill get a 90% equivlant but another class bis wep might be from one of the first 4.

It took my until 3 weeks ago to get CE. But pugs been killing 4 bosses all year.

[undone flower]

Maybe if I said «  you want to be stronger the fastest possible » might be more correct

[warm crag]

is your goal to have an optimized character that does the most damage given their situation or to assemble the bis list by the last day of s2?

[edgy oasis]

It is what it is. It is merely an observation.

[young badge]

So I use bladestorm on SINGEL TARGET when I have my base rotation on CD right?

[hardy shuttle]

My man is playing legion with a legendary in every slot

[warm crag]

no you press it nearly on cd ideally in your cds

[hardy shuttle]

Use it on CD. If other cooldowms are about to come up, you can hold it

[warm crag]

if it is to literally assemble the bis list then you'd want it exclusively from raid for ease of acquisition, if it is the first then you'd understand that bis lists are made for people who want bis lists, not for good players

[edgy oasis]

I loved getting ashkandi. I loved getting fyrakk legendary. Wotlk shadowmorne.

Getting that BiS wep is king.

[undone flower]

Debatable that m+ gear « bis » is easier to get

You roll 3 slots once a week

[warm crag]

ok but you can't list weapons with special effects after exclusively talking about armour pieces with slightly different stats that source from m+

[oblique trail]

I resimmed the SS stacks conditional, and assuming I removed the right line, with AM it's a 0.4% loss not playing around it

So use this info with what you will, I'd still not recommend playing around it, otherwise if you still want a WA you should be able to copy any WA you already got that tracks stacks, like a WW WA, and change the spellID/Name it tracks to Slaughtering Strikes instead

[hardy shuttle]

so basically just play DF season 2

🫡

[gleaming siren]

BIS WAFFE @warm crag

[warm crag]

me when veteran track wild hammer

[undone flower]

I got the chest

[gleaming siren]

Like nobody cared this tier if you had Ulgrax Morsel Masher or Colossal Mandible

[warm crag]

u got 19 minutes?

[edgy oasis]

Yes but have access to all mythic + loot.

You wouldn't have access to all raid loot till killing the final boss. (For most that's 4 months away and probably 4-5 weeks before end of season) 16 weeks. 3 x 16 ...48 chances of mythic plus bis loot. Compared to maybe 9 chances.

[eternal sundial]

Wahnsinnig

[warm crag]

Wait holy hell

[eternal sundial]

Brutal

[warm crag]

i gotta watch this

[eternal sundial]

Krass

[gleaming siren]

Im schmeowdi right now

[warm crag]

ok he just has the icyveins tier list open

[gleaming siren]

but Waffenkrieger is the hardest spec to play professionally

[undone flower]

You also kill bosses in raid

[gleaming siren]

I feel like that's highkey one of the easier things to play around tbh

You dont even need a WA for it you just slam your RBs before you Rampage

[warm crag]

"den furor krieger sehen wir hier leider unten im A bereich"

[gleaming siren]

nicht der A bereich

[warm crag]

tier lists are a fucking mental drain and everyone is depositing their intellect in there

what do you mean "leider unten im A bereich"

[gleaming siren]

Do you think I need to make a list again

[warm crag]

im watching this i need the guidance

[oblique trail]

Perhaps, I still think it's infinitely easier to just not play around it at all and just press buttons

If it was a noticeable gain I'd probably care more, but I have not cared to look what the difference might look like in an AoE situation

(I don't have premium and I'm too lazy to constantly sit in queue)

I also just think there are just certain things that are overengineered to the point of not worth being played around

[gleaming siren]

I think it's natural enough to play around

tbh

[oblique trail]

I had the same opinion of Opportunist when that was the best talent

[undone flower]

The dps loss of just a human playing and not a robot is sometime just the reason to not take a talent or whatever choice

[gleaming siren]

I think SS is a lot easier than Opportunist to properly play

[hardy shuttle]

im probably only going to look at it when going into bladestom in raid, then totally ignore it as thane

[gleaming siren]

like significantly

[oblique trail]

In practice though who knows too, if delaying the BS for those 3 globals will make a difference or not for timers

[hardy shuttle]

but thank you mr banezi, got it working

[warm crag]

did you stormbolt every single time you bladestormed

[gleaming siren]

No because I'm not ill

skyhold emote moment

[oblique trail]

Emote privilege owned

[warm crag]

you have lost any privilege to comment about insane conditionals to manage for tiny dps gains

[gleaming siren]

Imma be real

whip

[gleaming siren]

This isn't insane tho?

Like, just hit RB after BS before your Enrage runs out

pretty much

[warm crag]

woke

start stormbolting in bladestorms then

[gleaming siren]

No

[dense elbow]

And pressing stormbolt isn't just as easy?

Nothing else you can press there

[gleaming siren]

Bladestorm is my relax time

[undone flower]

You can taunt…

[dense elbow]

Taunt is macrod to my PvP storm

[gleaming siren]

I think Spongie is woke

and Banezi too

all I'll say

[oblique trail]

I think that deserves a 2 week mute

[gleaming siren]

NOOO

[dense elbow]

That sounds like someone woke would threaten with...
Hmmms, hmmms 🤔

That aside, ya people enjoying Fury atm in raid and keys?

[slim coral]

yeah fury fucks

arms fucks too

feels good as warrior to finally have some variety

and have both specs be at the top

[dense elbow]

I am quite happy being able to keep up with enh Shaman in not optimal builds. I really hope this balance sticks around

Prob won't tho, if I played Thane and optimised, we talking 15% more dam. And at that point we kinda op

(Thane Sims 28% better on 8t, 19% on 5t and 0.7% behind on ST)

In practice i do 1.7m Slayer on avg, 2m as Thane
But, caviat, different groups and pulls in the same dung (mist)

My point being, Thane is the outlier here if nerfs are needed

[sand crest]

yo guys, I made a couple basic weakauras using the premade icon template to track different buffs (ww, reck, etc) and they all work fine except the one for avatar, anyone else have this issue/know how to fix it?

[restive peak]

We definitely cannot keep up with enh even in optimal lol

Playin with a real bad enh if so

[dense elbow]

Last time I saw one he did 2.3m overall, that isn't too far ahead of my 1.8.
Compared to old 1.5 Vs 2.5

But I will play with a decent shaman later this week and get reality checked

Guess the fotm shaman's boosted my ego

[restive peak]

I mean a rando key is so wild with discrepancies it means very little anyway

But in a high key rn, we're far more competitive than S1, but enh is still giga fucking

[summer quail]

in what key tho? i haven't done m+ since the patch, but before patch mists was easily over 2m overall every time

[restive peak]

But yeah, we're definitely in a way better spot

[dense elbow]

I am talking real time, not active DPS

[restive peak]

What does that even mean

[summer quail]

was about to say, what the fuck does that mean

[dense elbow]

Active DPS is only in combat time

[oblique trail]

He means the DPS you see in a log

[dense elbow]

Details standard

[summer quail]

ohh i just look at details for m+ no logs. don't run any lizards, so details works

[dense elbow]

Active DPS is a lot higher, usually around 2m at 1.5 in mist. Higher based if you get gatepulls or not (and mist path)

When I play hunter, ppl get good logs. I gatepull on every elite single spawn

No dragon solo if I can do anything about it

... Yes they get very upset at me

[chilly fractal]

He’s taking Real Time… with Bill Maher

[restive peak]

M+ DPS is so all over the place outside very coordinated high keys

Can't use any of it as real data

[whole yacht]

1.8? At what ilvl?

[dense elbow]

PuGs are a lot more stable than one would think. Most play the same, with same routes and same skill level

[unreal onyx]

Vastly different DPS and therefore timings tho

[dense elbow]

Max

[unreal onyx]

Or vastly different timings and therefore DPS however you wanna look at it

[whole yacht]

Oof

[unreal onyx]

Mostly only constant in pugs is the route, the rest is full rng

Kicks, deaths etc

[dense elbow]

Most seem quite stable to me. Clown runs happen, but is kinda rare, if memorable

[whole yacht]

The main reason for this is boosting communities. You'll see a 637 3000 io shaman. Take em, then boom they suck, cuz they bought it.

Imo

[unreal onyx]

io is only half an indicator of skill

[dense elbow]

Well booster runs is a totally different thing. Holey

[unreal onyx]

It either shows their skill or their bank acc

[whole yacht]

You have 0 ability to tell how skilled someone is outside of io when they que for a pug run

[undone flower]

At some point pugs asks to be on voice tho (or used to when I pushed high in bfa)

[dense elbow]

Moat boosters are worse than the boostie

[unreal onyx]

You could analyse their rio profile before and check, if they have only 10s and then a random 14 with 3500io players, thats sus

[whole yacht]

No one does that. They will buy all of 1 level, Then move up 1-2 levels. Buy all again

[dense elbow]

Done 20 keys, 3k Rio, smurf or sus

[sour frigate]

i done 30 keys 3.2k rio

sus?

[dense elbow]

The game of you dont know before it is too late

[whole yacht]

Giga sus

[sour frigate]

😦

( )

[whole yacht]

Lol

[dense elbow]

Dont worry, I will boost you next season as well

[unreal onyx]

Ofc no one does that, but it could be an indicator

[sour frigate]

In the current state of ww ig ill boost u

[whole yacht]

They COULD also be giga Chad's. But we aren't talking about hypothetical

[dense elbow]

[sour frigate]

yeah ure right

[unreal onyx]

Or you have the oposite of player that is CE in week 5 but only 2600io

[dense elbow]

Raider =/= m+ player skill

PvPer tho is a lot closer

[whole yacht]

A lot of high end raiders I know hate m+

[sour frigate]

^

I have a lot of mates who 8/8 week 12 or so and 2600 rio capped

[dense elbow]

Ppl bring elite glad, I bring em if they got 1k score

No interrupt will go through

[unreal onyx]

Raid is arguably easier bc less personal responsibility for important mechanics, but requires more group coordination

[sour frigate]

At least they kick things

[unreal onyx]

But m+ is just the same thing scaled up

Not really comparable

[sour frigate]

M+ is fucking chaos in pug often

Even if u prescript

[dense elbow]

I love watching feral use cyclone in m+, pumping DPS in ungodly amounts and somehow got time to root the mob that was looking at the healer

[undone flower]

Yeah not really comparable because last couple raid bosses throw a lot of shit at the raiders

[sour frigate]

^ my gameplay on shaman

[dense elbow]

I need to see your shammy

[sour frigate]

No

[dense elbow]

Your monk play was splat

[sour frigate]

I just made shaman to boost friends and 10th

[undone flower]

I saw his monk at the beginning of the season

I was over him, as prot

[sour frigate]

S1 didnt exist for ww we pretend

[jade cipher]

anyone else missing their avatar weak aura if they were using one?

[dense elbow]

Hey, at least you beat fury warrior in troll spec that is being chased out of every pack cause tank can't hold threat

[undone flower]

Message me if you want to do some keys, you know I’m not a huge fan of m+ but we can vault fill some keys

Next season

[sour frigate]

🫡

[dense elbow]

Mine works, what is the issue?

[undone flower]

And I don’t mind if you bring another guy in an 10, like your friend you bringed

[dense elbow]

?

[undone flower]

I think I did a weekly 10 to someone without gettting paid

But idc tbh

[feral ivy]

Why are yall doing 10s?

[undone flower]

Me ?

Y’all is just me no ? I only push when every planets aligned

[dense elbow]

Well that is the standard weekly 10, 1 geared DPS, 2 rata and a tanks healer combo that lets the DPS tank

[feral ivy]

I see someone yesterday do some keys as well

[sour frigate]

I did few 12-14

[glad coyote]

timed a 16 stone vault last night

almost 2 chested

[sour frigate]

WW just fucks

[dense elbow]

I done a lot of 12 mists

[feral ivy]

Is it to get a feel for the new rotation or just bored?

[glad coyote]

yes

lol

[dense elbow]

Testing builds

Feeling em out

[hardy bluff]

Keys also mega easy rn

[sour frigate]

Boralus

[hardy bluff]

Get some free io if want better invites next season

[glad coyote]

i was done with undermine with the story line/side quests/world quests in about 1 hour

and now have nothing to do

[feral ivy]

I guess I should do some as well to get use to the rotation

[undone flower]

https://raider.io/characters/eu/dalaran/Happywar
open the mists tab, i stopped vault filling in beginning january

[glad coyote]

AM feels good in higher keys when you have better timing between packs

[dense elbow]

Active DPS or realtime?
Better be real-time for your sake

[jade cipher]

when i get avatar it used to pop up, i made it myself just simple show only if buffed Wa, i had both for reck and avatar, the avatar one is not working, i made it again still it doesnt show when i get avatar

[glad coyote]

in the SV i did 1.955 over all

[sour frigate]

Weakge

Arms would pull bigger

Ngl i did like 2.1kk in sv with 2k mastery build fury

Few months ago

[glad coyote]

what do u mean 2k master?

lol

[sour frigate]

20% mastery i had

40 crit 40 haste

[dense elbow]

Weird, mine works similarly. Go into the load conditions and double check. Then check the trigger condition, replace the avatar there to make sure it is correct. In case the code changed

[jade cipher]

ah so mine had a box checked called talent. i had to uncheck that

weird, it happened on its own

[bright sable]

How does the Mythic+ score work when next season starts

I'm guessing it's reset, but will it show up on RIO in game still?

Also are we still able to get the M+ score achievements until next week?

[restive peak]

Yeah last time they let the messy between week 1 show too though, so it won't be giga accurate

[dense elbow]

It happens once in a while, why I knew to send you looking
Spread the word

[dense elbow]

Enjoyed NW this week yet?

[restive peak]

Nah I'm finishin the little shit and I'll be on PTR til Tues lol

[dense elbow]

Give it a spin, it becomes quite the experience

[jade cipher]

Nameplate Sct. anyone got a decent warrior setting for this addon? i saw it on critcake stream and i like it

[dense elbow]

Crit got his wa on his discord, link found probably on his channel

[restive peak]

I hate S1 with a burning passion, if I never have to see these dungeons again I'll be happy

[jade cipher]

imgur picture in his channel doesnt open, thats why i'm asking here

[dense elbow]

Awww, well. Just know that last part on NW sure gave me a new perspective on things

[glad coyote]

i will say running any dungeon with a premade makes it way better instead of pugging

[undone flower]

Tbh yesterday idk why I did every key on my char but not NW lol

Like I don’t want to see it again

[dense elbow]

Just @ critcake on his server, he fix

Or in here, sure

[warm crag]

imgur album worked for me

i then scrolled down and for some reason imgur decided i wanted to see weird shit

[sour frigate]

the camera bug?

[dense elbow]

Ye

[mossy fox]

looks like it still works to me

[undone flower]

Tbh I just don’t like the season 1 dungeon pool at all

[mossy fox]

@jade cipher

[restive peak]

GM Critters

[slim coral]

wth is waffen krieger

[mossy fox]

gm lincc

[warm crag]

silence american

[slim coral]

Teach me

[undone flower]

RUHIG

[restive peak]

Owned

[slim coral]

Explain in american

[undone flower]

He has to say the skin color of every character in the video ?

[slim coral]

what?

[dense elbow]

Krieger warrior, krieg war
Waffen, force
If I managed to break it down from German to Norwegian to English correctly

[jade cipher]

THanks @mossy fox

[sour frigate]

warhammer reference

[slim coral]

warrior force 11.1?

wth

[oblique trail]

Waffe is weapon

[undone flower]

Nah it’s just that USA still collecting racial data of citizens is so weird to me

[dense elbow]

Ahah

[sour frigate]

Waffels

[silent burrow]

Waffle is delicious

[dense elbow]

So warrior weapon, not force

[slim coral]

yall are confusing me

[dense elbow]

He called himself the warrior weapon? ... That is kinda beta

[slim coral]

you made it worse

[dense elbow]

He is used by other warriors?

Being a tool

[undone flower]

And why furor, I thought it ended with -er in German no ??

[dense elbow]

Krig = war in Norwegian, so makes sense krieg is krig
Germanic language groups opop

[restive peak]

Good news, droar is also going through floors like judgment

[slim coral]

so basically none of you know what it means

[undone flower]

Do I have to say which 2 spec he is comparing and 1 is FUROR

[dense elbow]

Bazed brain hurt

[silent burrow]

Just put beans on it

[slim coral]

bro I have no clue what you're saying or talking about

[oblique trail]

Average American I think

[dense elbow]

It is kinda amazing to watch in real time

[slim coral]

I just asked what krigen waffle meant

idk why I'm gettign 20 answers

[sour frigate]

just balls

[vernal laurel]

Yes, unfortunately our two best trinkets, and two best weapons, are on the last two mythic bosses. That does make a huge difference

[undone flower]

@slim coral

[dense elbow]

Well you could just Google it

[oblique trail]

Waffen Krieger = Arms warrior, Furor Krieger = Fury warrior

Astronomical difficulty

[slim coral]

[slim coral]

I tried didn't work

[dense elbow]

Wait, so waffen means arms

[oblique trail]

The Gallywix weapon really isn't that big of a deal

[whole yacht]

Why google when have banezi

[dense elbow]

[oblique trail]

And to my knowledge you can easily substitute one of the trinkets for one of the Delve trinkets, i.e the Energy Drink

So the Deck of Cards + Energy for AoE/M+

[undone flower]

And it’s not like everyone,but you, will have Gallywix weapon in mythic

[oblique trail]

Eye of Kezan + whatever for ST/ST focused raid bosses

[summer quail]

delve trinkets are insane this tier, well 2 of them for us. but still

[dense elbow]

Dinar! Dinar! Dinar!

[oblique trail]

They're good, but also the dungeon trinkets are also just abhorrently bad

[thick fossil]

Some how I got the suspicious energy drink from a rare mob.

[oblique trail]

Fairly certain the trinket is just a zonewide + Delve item

Just like the Syringe weapon was in S1

[hardy shuttle]

I think it's all one pool. Certain rare mobs share with delves. And are in the world section of vault

[vernal laurel]

Sure, but just one weapon and two trinkets being locked away feels really bad. Going to be running the hero variants the whole patch until dinars in 11.1.5

[oblique trail]

Shrug

Play the raid get gear

[thick fossil]

I haven't bothered using it as it's only 608? Or something low.

[oblique trail]

I don't see the issue really

[radiant plank]

Me when I dont put in effort but I deserve the best items

[summer quail]

i mean this one very good

[oblique trail]

The Gallywix weapon is far from amazing considering it's from the last boss

It's not a Gavel situation

You can go the entire patch without it and not lose sleep over it

[thick fossil]

Fuck Gavel.

[summer quail]

gallywix weapon barely ahead of ascendance. like incredibly close

not worth a dinar

[dense elbow]

They should put 50% of raid BiS in the m+ vault, to make it fair
Make sure only those who put in the effort get the loot needed

[thick fossil]

Hated they balanced warrior around that and Jaithys

[edgy widget]

The gally weapon is very minor yah, like 0.5% over a regular one

[hardy shuttle]

You don't like getting bleed every time the anduin adds spawn?

[edgy widget]

Not enough to make you prio a lower ilvl in OH

[restive peak]

We can't do floodgate on m0 right? Just heroic?

[radiant plank]

y

[edgy widget]

Which is why I recommend crafting a weapon for fury (and quite possibly even arms) this tier

No m0 till next week

[restive peak]

Lame bro

Heroic trinky is still good for arms though LOL

[radiant plank]

very much so

[undone flower]

Just in normal no ?

[summer quail]

i thought even heroic was seasonal now, so maybe just normal?

[thick fossil]

Kinda dumb since this is the only week m0 will be relevant.

[edgy widget]

Counterpoint: I don’t have to do dungeons this week

[restive peak]

We can't do heroic?! HOLY FUUUUCK

Yeah I'm goin on the PTR

[undone flower]

Nop

[restive peak]

Live can wait til tuesday

[hardy shuttle]

Get some valor stones, do a few quests. Afk a week

[summer quail]

like this week is completely dead. finish the chapters then log off

[undone flower]

I thought you discovered floodgate could be done in heroic smh

[slim coral]

yeah I maxxed my valorstaones

[oblique trail]

I did 4 chapters then logged off 👍

[thick fossil]

I've been playing a lot more Beat Saber.

[restive peak]

Valor capped got like 12 keys, lame

[undone flower]

I still did weeklies on my dk for crests

[summer quail]

gonna get valorcapped when keys come out anyway

[oblique trail]

It's certainly not gonna be Valorstones that hinder you on week 1

[edgy widget]

Achievements, events, toys, collectibles, it’s far from dead, there’s just no power to be had… and that’s completely fine imo

[slim coral]

There is plenty to do for RWF players I'll tell you that lol

[undone flower]

pug # dps spec

[thick fossil]

Yeah, I'll be living in M+ next week. Maybe prot jail for a little while

[slim coral]

17 alt campaigns holy

[summer quail]

tru tru. let me rephrase, it is dead for people like me that only raid or do m+*

[edgy widget]

People like you need a hobby

[sour frigate]

Or job :tf:

[oblique trail]

My hobby is playing MHW tomorrow

[whole relic]

[edgy widget]

Sounds like you can enjoy a well deserved break instead

[summer quail]

got other games to play when not doing that

[dense elbow]

WoW is work, not a hobby

[thick fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/look-what-yep-this-gif-13617583

[radiant plank]

Pokemon presents is live

[edgy widget]

you mean tonight!

[oblique trail]

Hell naw

[remote bobcat]

this is incredibly important advice that might deserve an announcement imo

[oblique trail]

It's at 5 am for EU plebs

[edgy widget]

Casual

[summer quail]

can't wait maan

[edgy widget]

It’s already in the guides and you can’t craft yet anyway; I might do something once raid week starts, but I don’t wanna spam announcements before they’re relevant

[thick fossil]

MHW does look nice. My best friend wants to get into PoE2.

[undone flower]

It’s global at the same time technically for steam(console can play at midnight)

[remote bobcat]

Fair

[edgy widget]

PoE 2 was fun, but it needs a lot more time to cook

[thick fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-hunter-monster-hunter-wilds-cooking-hunter-palico-gif-13001496437032412730

[pulsar prawn]

yeah. but the QoL features are goated

[oblique trail]

Console player moment

[thick fossil]

Man this is a game that makes me hungry

[oblique trail]

Although a console would probably run it a lot better than my PC would

[undone flower]

Idk if my pc runs it

[thick fossil]

Good to know. Maybe I can stear him in a different direction. Heh

[summer quail]

big Poe 2 patch next month i think. maybe then?

[edgy widget]

It was a good experience

[oblique trail]

Should be around end of the current PoE 1 events duration

[edgy widget]

I didn’t not like it, it’s just not very wide right now

[oblique trail]

(Assuming no extends)

[summer quail]

oh yeah and that got extended

[oblique trail]

Did not see it got extended

[thick fossil]

He absolutely hates WoW with a passion, so I don't even bother with that line. MHW might be good, can you play it solo?

[summer quail]

got extended 1 month

[oblique trail]

You can play it solo or up to 4 people

[storm meadow]

Quick question about the prioritylist from Wowhead about this line

[summer quail]

yes. and for multiplayer you can either play with friends or send a flare to enable randoms to join

very good experience

[thick fossil]

Do you have to interact with other players? Or is it invite them to your lobby only?

[oblique trail]

You don't have to if you don't want to

[slim coral]

what about it

[storm meadow]

Do we have to keep Avatar until the next Ravager+Recklessness refresh ?

[oblique trail]

Though in the beta the campsite had a lot of people showing

[undone flower]

And even pug in mh world is fun in the infinite farm zone

[slim coral]

no

[thick fossil]

Ok, I might be able to sell him on that.

[oblique trail]

Don't know if that stays

[slim coral]

you just send on cd

[summer quail]

can make private lobby. or lobby where only friends can join etc

lobby with password only

[slim coral]

unless they are within a few seconds of each other

[summer quail]

several options

[oblique trail]

The coop in MHWilds is a bit different than it was in MHWorlds

And Rise

[undone flower]

No longer flare ?

To open your hunt ?

[thick fossil]

Ok, cool. Cause the only multi-player games I've got him into are Helldivers 2. We played the hell out it and BG3.

[oblique trail]

I don't recall the exact way it works, but I know SoS still is a thing

[vernal laurel]

If m+ just dropped myth gear I would not be complaining as much

[oblique trail]

But you don't have a lobby where you just prepare in, eat up, then all join at the same time on the hunt

[storm meadow]

TYVM, so I guess I press it on CD now

[oblique trail]

M+ is farmable, the raid isn't

[thick fossil]

Excellent.

[oblique trail]

If M+ dropped myth gear then the incentive to raid would be massively diminshed

[undone flower]

MH with someone is really fun, ofc after 2-3 weeks you don’t play anymore

[radiant plank]

Vault drops + you can infintely farm m+

[oblique trail]

It was in response to another reply, but as I mentioned above it was different where you saw other people in the camp/town

[radiant plank]

dogshit hamster wheel only andy take

[oblique trail]

I don't know if that stays in the release, or if there's a way to get into a private lobby

I at least couldn't find the option to in the beta

But the actual gameplay/hunts part of the game you can do completely solo without issue

[summer quail]

i bet that's beta only

[oblique trail]

It's what I assumed at least

[undone flower]

In world it was just some end game monsters that needed a group or giga hard solo

[restive peak]

We got a person saying they should get mythic gear from face rollable spammable content again?

[gleaming siren]

You think this

[restive peak]

Go play fellowship big dog

[thick fossil]

Hard stuff he doesn't mind. He loves Dark Souls, Elden Ring, etc.

[gleaming siren]

but I guarantee you I'll be stone capped

[storm meadow]

I wish Onslaught was a bit more viable, I miss DF:S2's rotation

[whole yacht]

I may be entirely stupid for this, because I'm missing parts of this conversation. But if you mean to make a private lobby, you 100% can in the beta.

[thick fossil]

Only if we can make our own characters and assign em a class/role.

[oblique trail]

I haven't played the most recent beta, so I don't know if it changed there

[vernal laurel]

A +15 key is as hard as mythic raid. Should drop equivalent rewards

[oblique trail]

No

[summer quail]