fury

[topaz crag]

is the patch out in 40 min on EU?

or is wowhead lying

[summer quail]

out on reset i think. which is like 6 hours i think

[topaz crag]

damn

[sullen dove]

mute baze

madox yellow

[earnest canyon]

what does yellow even mean? Idk what any of the roles mean unless it says "moderator", "admin" etc?

[sullen dove]

blue is more closely the mod/admin level

[slim coral]

*mod baze

[sullen dove]

yellow generally is just like "well known" or "extremely helpful" members of community kinda

not what i said

[slim coral]

it is now

[earnest canyon]

oh ok, thanks

[sullen dove]

the hell is wrong with you

[dense elbow]

:)

[sullen dove]

oh m+er

right

[dense elbow]

I hope they get turned into silver

gonna get rich

[sullen dove]

they could turn into 10g each and not be worth jack shit

ik like valor turned into money

dont recall if midstones did

[dense elbow]

I would take 20k gold for free

[sudden tusk]

yeah i think they turn into a grey invantory item and get auto sold

[iron portal]

copper inc

[dense elbow]

i take it

[sudden tusk]

yuoll take an Odyns Fury Nerf and like it

[dense elbow]

Why? Why?!

What I do?!

NA servers up yet, btw?

prob not

[covert blaze]

not yet

[sudden tusk]

nope

[feral ivy]

no

[dense elbow]

EU will go online before NA, classic

Well, when it gets online, someone check if exebuff went through or nah, then ping me

[steep lynx]

think i got like 2k in my warrior and like 1k on pally hella keys baby

[dense elbow]

ooo

[lapis shadow]

do we know if old coffer keys transfer?

[feral ivy]

they are up

server*

[royal copper]

Season 2… nope 😦 maybe season 3 it’s our time too shine 😅

[dense elbow]

Soon we shall know if exe was buffed or not

[red berry]

i am stuck on retrieving realm list

[dense elbow]

😨

[bright sable]

whoever gets in please confirm what currencies got auto deleted

and if mythic key master etc achieve are still available maybe

[restive peak]

It'll be everything gone broheem

[dense elbow]

Blizz already stated all seasonal currencies are wiped for the next season, and that you should spend them. Delves and so on

[bright sable]

AOTC says next raid tier

so in theory that means next week?

or they could be cringe and do it this week

[eager stirrup]

You waiting until the day of the patch to ask these questions? The answers have been available.

[dense elbow]

S1 tier is done, it is pre-season, if blizz dont want to throw CE guilds a bone for another chance

[bright sable]

I have been looking at every wowhead post and icy veins and youtubers and not a single one of them can agree on what wipes when lol

I assume at least delve currencies are gone on patch today

[dense elbow]

You were told by Ion himself

[bright sable]

nobody can answer what will happen to renown track rewards tho even tho I have asked, googled and watched vids

[junior gale]

im logged in you cant upg gear and no more crests

[restive peak]

Elv is cooked bro

[dense elbow]

Renown track stays, dont worry

[sullen dove]

elv users lmao

[hardy bluff]

no way elvui broken on patchday

first time?

[bright sable]

ElvUI is fucked? ripgg

[junior gale]

mines fine

[restive peak]

Crests gone, keys are not

[eager stirrup]

I thought we would still have the bountiful keys for delves tbh because of the new delve season not starting until next week.

[bright sable]

so I can go get crests and keys right now and use them in the next season stuff?

[sullen dove]

historically CE always been available until new raid release so should be open this week to get still, and presumably aotc too

[slim pollen]

And just to make sure, valorstones cleaned out? Before I spend all mine on account bound gear 😛

[hollow mirage]

ERM did Blizzard remove our talent buff for dual 1h or 2h O.o?

[sullen dove]

would imagine only the new weathered/carved crests are avail

if any

[hardy bluff]

no

[junior gale]

yes valorstones are wiped

[hardy bluff]

smf still exists and is still shit

[slim pollen]

Cheers!

[dense elbow]

Nein, M+ key gets turned into a 2+, and S2 havent started yet, so you cant start that reward track. WQs prob give you the new crests and stuff

[eager stirrup]

Anyone got a Fury multi-target spec? I’m still working on CE this week. I was using Critcake’s build with intervene. Anything I should change?

[sullen dove]

this login waiting annoying asf breh

[chilly harbor]

why depths of insanity instead of unbridled ferocity?

[thin cliff]

imagine this many patches and SMF not just being a transmog option

[sullen dove]

probably not

pretty standard aoe build the entire season

[covert blaze]

no

[sullen dove]

only ever swapping like 2-3talents for broodtwister or something for example

[hollow mirage]

on the Warrior side of our tree at the bottom we used to have a talent that gave a dmg % for dual wielding, not there no more O.o

[dense elbow]

Arguably you can skip OF for VC now, as TT is gone

Depends if you need the add burst or not

[eager stirrup]

Thanks. I’ll just keep using what I’ve been using.

[sullen dove]

o vault pieces arent upgradeable tho

[eager stirrup]

Yeah, I guess that’s mostly what I’m good for — for platform 2 lol.

[sullen dove]

imagine you get a bis trinket last vault

and its stuck at 623

[dense elbow]

Our ST got buffed a lot, Nexja

so now ya good at everything

[eager stirrup]

Thank god because I have been looking terrible lmao

[dense elbow]

Now you got no excuse anymore tho

keep that in mind

ya better look good

[inner zinc]

except burst aoe RIP OF

[dense elbow]

RIP OF

Btw, can anyone confirm if Exe gotten buffed?

Just check if does 300-400k baseline, or 500-600k

[sour tundra]

THE LAG

[inner zinc]

servers are online?

[sour tundra]

yes

[feral ivy]

which is worse elvui discord on release seasons/expan or class discords when they get nerfed

[sullen dove]

oh yeah slayer got changed to be terrible and require the SD talent

so what u just drop bloodcraze or

cruelty methinks too good

[bright sable]

I meant the coffer keys for bountiful delves

[dense elbow]

Should be reset, but you can build new ones now

[bright sable]

so the currency to build the keys was not reset?

[dapper goblet]

madox for yellow

[bright sable]

What I'm wondering as well is if the renown track coffer key rewards, valorstone rewards and crest rewards are still there, gone or what

[dense elbow]

Madox is purple for life

[bright sable]

the quests you pick up from quartermasters once your renown reaches X and Y

I have a lot of alts where I havent picked those up

[sullen dove]

nice ring i cant upgrade B)

[bright sable]

I'm wondering if I should be saving them for next season to get a head start, or if I should get them now and sell for gold

[sour frigate]

Skill issue

[dense elbow]

That is well and good, but what about a screenshot of your execute ability instead?

[oblique trail]

Should've looted it earlier chief

[sullen dove]

who cares about that

mid worthless button

[feral ivy]

is m0 tww dungeons only or all s2 m0?

[dense elbow]

[delicate mirage]

Anyone know the gear secrets for this week

[hardy bluff]

season 1

[delicate mirage]

Kill rares till I go blue?

[feral ivy]

cool tyty

[bright sable]

Can you drop new gear yet from M0 or nah

[feral ivy]

next week m0 release

[hardy bluff]

no

[feral ivy]

can still do m+ this week still but its still s1 stuff

i think only thing released was the new area

and classs stuff

[bright sable]

wait but can I get keystone master or whatever ?

[delicate mirage]

What’s options for cheesing gear this week anyone know

[bright sable]

I am 2100 score atm is it possible to hit 2500 and get the rewards

[junior shore]

also none of your s1 gear can be upgraded anymore

[past pivot]

You keep asking but the secret is there is no secret. Start earning rep this week. Do world boss. Wait for archi's guide

[delicate mirage]

🙏😍

[hardy bluff]

if there is some secret wowhead will tell you about it

[dense elbow]

Just wait for M+ to release, start farming

[ionic bone]

Delves ofc

[bright sable]

does S2 gear drop? can it be upgraded?

[junior shore]

next week

[bright sable]

ok so its just a week long freeze then

[junior shore]

driving lessons and campaign

[red flax]

comparing the APL and the opener/guide on wowhead for slayer, isnt spear used after BS? cooldown.bladestorm.remains>=2 should mean BS needs to be on cd first right?

[ruby cipher]

Guys, what do you think about fury/protection in this season?

[lapis shadow]

Good and good

[ruby cipher]

Good to know, because I heard that both were weak at the start of the season.

[lapis shadow]

I say good becuz they are warrior class (I have not read a single thing about warrior)

[ionic bone]

Weak at 12+ when they do big pulls

[upbeat swan]

anyone online seeing anything wacky/missing numbers wise?

[past pivot]

Like someone using comic sans?

[upbeat swan]

lmao no like missing buffs/talent issues. Isnt the first time theyve forgotton to ship something to live

[ruby cipher]

Got it, I'm not going to push keys, at most +10. I'm afraid I won't be able to find groups easily.

[past pivot]

+12 for max rewards, right?

[bright sable]

+10 in S1 is not +10 in S2

[whole yacht]

when is elvui new update supposed to go live? anyone know?

[past pivot]

https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/365419450054344704

[ionic bone]

No, 10 again

Unless you want the mount at 2850

[smoky vale]

no

its 12 for crests

[glad coyote]

are sims working?

[ionic bone]

Who tf will farm 12s for crests when we are already capped at 40-50 per week

[covert blaze]

i got a M transmitter on one of my characters

[smoky vale]

anyone on alts past week 4

[restive peak]

Dude

LOL

[smoky vale]

not doing affix is easier than 10s

[smoky vale]

lol

[mint moat]

what is the new talent build for thane since we lost points essentially

[covert blaze]

what

where

[static rock]

Does anyone have a talent build for in the meantime until S2 starts?

[smoky vale]

world boss

[smoky vale]

prob

[restive peak]

Rando rare

[bright sable]

damn that looks like a useful trinket

[smoky vale]

oh lol

[onyx spire]

cant open my fuckin bags

[bright sable]

how much ilvl is it maxed out?

[covert blaze]

me when im guessing

[smoky vale]

yeah

[earnest canyon]

punch your monitor

[covert blaze]

world bosses dont drop adventurer

[smoky vale]

yeah i lied for fun on the internet

[covert blaze]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/809954503046332459/1097999985687134300/bounce.gif

[bright sable]

https://tenor.com/view/arthur-internet-tell-lies-buster-lie-gif-4986649

[glad coyote]

we pumping or what folks

[whole yacht]

at least 4 dps

[glad coyote]

i'll take 4 dps

[whole yacht]

is wowhead updated wit builds and shit for s2?

[past pivot]

https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1234949058121171069 would be updated. Archi working on it, he said earlier

[soft merlin]

What the best cartel everyone going?

[past pivot]

All cosmetic so get the red mount then w/e

[glad coyote]

doesnt matter i think

got for the noggerfogging toy

[past pivot]

#news message

[covert blaze]

what ilvl is adventurer 8/8

[past pivot]

Elvui news ^^

[restive peak]

Apparently 632

[upbeat plume]

nothing really changes between the RA and AM builds besides that choice right?

[bright sable]

im going blackwater because I get fishing raft

[opaque falcon]

So what’s there to do? Nothing lol

[static rock]

is there a cartel we wanna join to start the patch?

[lone pendant]

with the change to getting cd's back up with rage spent do we hold reck for avatar or just send them desynced after the first one?

[upbeat plume]

generally speaking when playing am you only hold if they are very close like sub 6-7 seconds otherwise just full send whenever

[remote bobcat]

there's probably a cutoff where (random example) holdings reck for 7 seconds is dps increase but holding for 8 seconds is dps loss

[upbeat plume]

or you know a dps phase is coming up like adds spawning, increased damage taken etc

[lone pendant]

you guys both cooking gd

good shit ty

[upbeat plume]

considering how small the gap is Im probably just going to play ra for raid at least lol

[lone pendant]

i was just messing with thane on dummies trying to feel out the difference and dmg off rip seems higher rn

[remote bobcat]

its likely going to be better anyway

[past pivot]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/best-talent-builds-for-all-classes-for-patch-11-1-undermine-d-raid-mythic-and-374288?utm_source=discord-webhook

[lone pendant]

i don't think i'll be playing thane in raid tbh

[remote bobcat]

in raid

[upbeat plume]

yeah AM is almost always better on paper then in practice

[lone pendant]

yah slayer in ST runs RA anyway right?

[upbeat plume]

barring specific circumstances like brood or adds

[remote bobcat]

no

AM

is more ST theoretical dps

but

raid fights usually have phases

and downtime

or bonus dmg phases

so RA tends to be more useful

[steady lava]

as a mountain thane build, should you use TC + WW or just Thunder Clap?

[remote bobcat]

because its cooldown bound

[lone pendant]

i like the way RA feels with bladestorm but that's about it

[remote bobcat]

doint use WW as thane

clap is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ww

[upbeat plume]

and the last time I looked the difference is already fairly small

[steady lava]

thanks

[upbeat plume]

also is spear just bad now, even the ST build just takes naked TR

[remote bobcat]

the capstones just suck

[upbeat plume]

lol indeed, that problem hasnt been touched

[remote bobcat]

we used to use capstones

now we dont

cuz base abbilities got buffed so much

so instead of taking capstone

we take base ability stat increases

bad design imo but there ya go

[upbeat plume]

I love somehow all the capstones we have, and this setup Depths somehow comes out of the fucking woodwork as a choice

[remote bobcat]

depths of insanity you mean?

it synergizes well with AM

more rage = more cooldown reduction

[upbeat plume]

it works for RA as well

[remote bobcat]

but yea anyhow, my guess is that fury > arms until we acquire the season 2 4set bonus, where arms > fury at that point

also arms execute phase is rly good in the new raid

[upbeat plume]

the difference between the two is pretty small overall, but yeah execute fights will for sure be arms

[wise solar]

Hi @edgy widget (sorry if tagging is not allowed, I wont do it again if it is 🙂 )!

I see 1 line in the simulation:

execute,if=buff.sudden_death.up&buff.imminent_demise.stack<3&cooldown.bladestorm.remains<25&(target.health.pct<35&talent.massacre|target.health.pct<20)

Why target health is important, while Sudden Death is active?

[runic pine]

so no spear or RA anymore?

[remote bobcat]

you may have vicious contempt > execute

[earnest canyon]

it has an or in there

[remote bobcat]

thats my guess

[earnest canyon]

not familiar with APL, but it seems quite simple as a scripting language

[static loom]

The way we prioritize our SD is slightly different in the execute phase

99 times out of a 100, it's the same

[edgy widget]

basically because you throw SD out sooner to stack Jugg quicker during Execute
whereas outside of Execute you can delay it a bit more in order to game out the total duration

[earnest canyon]

| is not or?

[wise solar]

Yeah but, if Vicious Contempt is more important, then it should be:

(target.health.pct>35|target.health.pct>20&!talent.massacre)

[remote bobcat]

i mean im not sure

was just a guess

[static loom]

| = or

[earnest canyon]

ok

[static loom]

To use the line above, target above 35% or above 20% and talent massacre isn't used

[edgy widget]

• Spear is seemingly equal to Roar, but Roar is just simpler to play
• RA will depend on timings; AM is slightly stronger overall, but not condusive to encounters with cooldown delay or downtime

[runic pine]

https://tenor.com/view/pog-gif-18640695

[edgy widget]

so the default is AM, but it's very likely you'll end up swapping to RA for at least a couple encounters

in M+ they're like 2-3% apart, so do w/e you want, I'm not your real dad

[clever belfry]

(swapping to arms true)

[brittle crow]

is anyone else simply not allowed to click abilities?

bartender is updated idk what else would be broken

[static loom]

If you reload, it works again

But you won't be able to our your flying buttons, unless you reload again, whilst mounted

[brittle crow]

nope

still nothing

[wise solar]

Ahh thanks I got it.

So it is only important to stack Imminent Demise as soon as possible if the target will die soon.

Thank you!

[edgy widget]

well stacking ID is still important, but 95% of the time you'll get 3 stacks before BS comes off CD anyway

[remote bobcat]

changing 99% to 95% because we play AM now, respect it

im cooked

[random bough]

is Arms the way to go now for M+ and raid?

[dapper goblet]

🧑‍🚀 🔫 🧑‍🚀 always has been

[clever belfry]

silence blue man

[remote bobcat]

just post the meme what is this text bs

ICANT

[dapper goblet]

fuck up

[remote bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[wise solar]

I know the logical expressions, I was just curious of the logic behind that decision 😄 But thanks ❤️ 😄

[earnest canyon]

Oh my bad, fair...sorry!

[quaint forge]

My apologies if this has been answered but any major changes to talents for mythic Queen?

[wise solar]

My english is an another subject, that is horrible 😄

[pine mural]

Are these new talent builds best now or once we have new tier?

[velvet obsidian]

No Odin's Fury in the M+ build? Jeez

[remote bobcat]

OF is ass bro

titans torment got ripped so it doesnt give avatar and everything else around it got buffed

[velvet obsidian]

[rigid stirrup]

Anyone have any bartender issues? getting hella bugsac errors trying to press anything

[static loom]

Today, the tier makes 0 difference to how we play, or think

[remote bobcat]

Fatality

[pine mural]

ty luv

[summer quail]

tbf it not giving avatar isn't a big deal. with berserkers torment and AM you're likely to be in avatar anyway, but the free odyns from avatar is a big deal

[remote bobcat]

not having instant avatar+enrage+whirlwind stacks+odyns bleed into bladestorm 2gcd combo is kind of a big deal

ngl

[static loom]

The big loss wasn't OF not giving Avatar, the big loss was that now Avatar doesn't cast OF

[remote bobcat]

that too, yea

[velvet obsidian]

Wait, we were supposed to be thinking?

[summer quail]

did you not read what i said???

[velvet obsidian]

Also, RIP Unbridled. We take a VC over taking it with our final talent point

[remote bobcat]

sry im tired

flame me

pepekiss

[static loom]

But due to the overall buffs, even tho our 'burst' AoE is now lower, our overall damage is buffed enough that our normal AoE burst is now almost as high anyhow 🤷

[remote bobcat]

imcooked

yo sarri do you like the design of unhinged+reap existing

be honest

pure design wise

[static loom]

Current version of Fury is one of the best ones I've played in a long time

[rose bay]

Oh damn is it/

cant wait to hop on and try

am is back babee!

[static loom]

But as you may know, everyone has an opinion, and everyones opinion stinks

[remote bobcat]

cant wait for everyone to realize RA is probably better due to encounter mechanics

[remote bobcat]

ima be real i like how unhinged procs BTs which procs reap the storm, but i hate how its so much RNG

[summer quail]

still real af

[rose bay]

Arms will be mid even if it did 10 trillion damage untill they get rid of its fucking clunk

[static loom]

My opinion hasn't changed!

As a 20 years Arms main, I've been playing almost exclusively Fury for the past expansion

[summer quail]

arms needs god

[static loom]

Or a 66% buff to MS

Big numbers are always fun!

[rose bay]

theve done good arms mop,cata legion

yeah one ms with 30 second downtime again, il take it

i want big chunky hit

i dont want 3 builders to make my spender feel mid

[remote bobcat]

ima be real, i think arms needs a complete sound design overhaul. MS specifically may sound iconic to nostalgic people but yall can't tell me it sounds like it hits rly hard

[rose bay]

i want that to be that nuclear bomb kinda damage i want my ms to be reclasified as a fucking fat man

it sounds like anivia e

or like her q popping

[whole yacht]

cartel choice matter?

[rose bay]

the more warcrimy the better

[upbeat plume]

will say it feels kind of nice having base abilities hit alot harder

[velvet obsidian]

Wait, they gigabuffed execute I thought. It's still ass?

[rose bay]

hell yeah tahts all i ask, less cd bloat more harder hitting yellows

[remote bobcat]

pro RA vicious contempt full cooldown bloodbaths boutta hit nutty hard

cant wait

[earnest canyon]

it just doesnt flow well to me....it would need to be way way ahead to play it as its just not fun.....its like pala templar

[remote bobcat]

yessir

[smoky vale]

me when i play with damage numbers off

[upbeat plume]

I did that on brood

couldnt see the floor lol

[summer quail]

most people agree it doesn't flow well

[fallen granite]

Aren't both specs supposed to be solid this patch?

[upbeat plume]

they are

[tidal lantern]

any build suggestions for Queen? Entering home stretch for RWL

[remote bobcat]

ya

both good

[upbeat plume]

arms is quite a bit ahead in execute centric fights

is the only main point of contention

but even then

[fallen granite]

Oh awesome!

[summer quail]

ye, both are very good. we only complain about arms playstyle

not numbers

[fallen granite]

That's totally fair haha

[remote bobcat]

go intervene for pull reposition stuff, odyns fury sucks so just send natty bladestorms in enrage. im guessing AM > RA even now

id need to sim it but as an EU fella - idrc rn

im doing it all t omorrow

[quaint forge]

So keep it the same mostly

That’s good

[tidal lantern]

Kinda what u was thinking. Guessing Unbridled and depths better than grabbing meat cleaver

[upbeat plume]

AM and RA are very close

[tidal lantern]

I was going to try AM first

[remote bobcat]

I'd go meat cleaver.

[indigo arch]

Miss RA already

[remote bobcat]

for p2 p3

[indigo arch]

and odyn

[balmy shore]

bis swords

[upbeat plume]

yeah odyns feels a little wierd now since we dont take it in anything

[smoky vale]

where do i get

[upbeat plume]

intro quest line

to undermine

[remote bobcat]

imagine having capstone talents so shit u dont even want to take them

Prayge

[upbeat plume]

lol

[remote bobcat]

no captstones

no onslaught no odyns

spear and roar kinda same, so u only take the easier one (roar)

crazy how that works

[tidal lantern]

gotch. thanks.

[maiden ingot]

Tbf with the guy, it IS starting to get weird how many things in TWW are just resetting what feels like on an NA schedule in EU now. Between the Ring first, now the Crests and PvP Rating just going the way of the dodo/resetting on tuesday evening

[remote bobcat]

i think depths of insanity is really good though

[maiden ingot]

Rather than just everything cleanly resetting with.. y'know. The reset.

[upbeat plume]

depths has been terrible

till now

[remote bobcat]

well its good now

type shit

[chilly harbor]

do we only use BT when burst of power proc now that we use AM?

[upbeat plume]

I think the rotations are tacitly updated in the guids

[remote bobcat]

BT kinda nutty now

[haughty token]

do we have a new m+ build

[upbeat plume]

sigh just got to undermine, Im so god dman sick of them taking flying away in every new zone again

dragonflight was so fucking good in that way

[remote bobcat]

prob this

[past pivot]

https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1234949058121171069

[remote bobcat]

nah bro feel the drifting

its so good

[upbeat plume]

I just dont like them forcing a debuff so I HAVE to use wtv stupid new feature they wanted to add lol

[remote bobcat]

its not a debuff you've never been there in your life

[upbeat plume]

its a debuff to my convinence in navigating the world lol

[remote bobcat]

bruh

[feral ivy]

if i do a key on my alt i dont get anymore crest?

[remote bobcat]

what?

oh season 1 crests are disabled now iirc

if thats what u mean

[feral ivy]

but trying to ilvl up my alt is impossible atm right? since we cant upgrade the gear

[remote bobcat]

idk im EU

shrug

[feral ivy]

they need to add a character unstuck in the character select screen -.-

dont do any delvs today ... buggy

[undone flower]

https://eu.battle.net/support/en/help/product/wow/197/834/solution

[feral ivy]

OIII

i hate this place

oh for some reason i was EU

[undone flower]

If you clicked on my link yes sry I’m eu

[feral ivy]

ah

[mellow crow]

are we in an arms timeline now

[undone flower]

But it is how I do when I can’t log into the game

[past pivot]

This is a fury channel

[remote bobcat]

fury is stronger without 4set and its only slightly behind with 4set

also fury is more tanky

[stuck goblet]

Did you find a mythic queen build? I overrode my talents and completely forget what I had before

[solemn adder]

why are a lot of the builds im seeing with the new patch take Frenzied Enrage over Powerful?

[young swan]

pretender

[young swan]

prob cause they prefer it with AM

and its "better" on ST

(they are equal)

[dapper goblet]

@solemn adder you will never be max

[solemn adder]

I dont even see how it could be better personally, but yea that makes sense. Is the jury still out for AM or RA?

i dont even know who that is tbh

[young swan]

AM better in any case where u can maintain good uptime

RA good if u need burst or cant keep good uptime

[feral ivy]

i use frenzied for extra mms and helps get BS faster

[stuck goblet]

any idea which for mythic queen?

[young swan]

play around with it

its my first day on the patch too

i was planning on trying AM

no idea what timings are gonna look like

which is why i kind of hate AM

but oh well

[midnight kite]

For queen if you want to be safe play RA and use your old CD timings
if your feeling adventurous play AM

[young swan]

^

good way to look at it

[stuck goblet]

yeah, i'm worried about not having BS for the yoinks

[young swan]

better chance you have it with AM than with RA

but also

[remote bobcat]

this^, just make sure that bloodbath is giga now compared to crushing blow

[stuck goblet]

tru

[young swan]

leap

[clever belfry]

ill play AM and 777777

[young swan]

intervene

very easy to outplay yoinks

just dont be greedy

[stuck goblet]

i have like 1/10th of the pulls on warrior compared to shadow priest so still getting used to it

[remote bobcat]

queen shield melee uptime is kind of insignificant, its more important that you don't troll

[warm crag]

play waffe

[clever belfry]

waffe in mein mund und abgezogen

[warm crag]

wtf?

[remote bobcat]

keep yourself safe

[undone flower]

Yeah shield intermission I just sit in def stance and stare the boss (slightly maintaining enrage)

[flat river]

can u do m0's?

[remote bobcat]

ima be honest i hard prio bloodthirst on that phase whneever i drop below 100% hp

cause the amount of deaths ive caused..

aware

[empty mirage]

yo do we still have runes to put on our weapons? last i played we were using hissing and howling but those dont seem to work anymore

[remote bobcat]

algari mana oil 2x

[empty mirage]

ooh rah

[remote bobcat]

one per weapon

[empty mirage]

u coulda warned a jit hed be spending his net worth on these got DAMN

[remote bobcat]

idk

im kinda spoiled

i make 1mil per week

[empty mirage]

200 gold each is nefarious

[remote bobcat]

from boosting

[empty mirage]

i aint got the facilities for that

[remote bobcat]

the..facilities?

[undone flower]

You are allowed to not take the rank 3 we will not judge you

[teal badge]

Anyone got an Ansurek build for Fury?
Raiding in 5 and dunno what to drop for SD now on Slayer

[empty mirage]

rank 1 and 2 are 200 each

tbf i just got back from only playing classic so spending 2k gold feels like a lot rn

[remote bobcat]

ive been thinking about smth like this, don't take this at face value though

[empty mirage]

someone gimme the tldr on why were on moutain thane now wasnt that bad bad

[sullen dove]

its been good since like

11.0.5

like the last 3 months or so

[empty mirage]

i havent played since the first few weeks of tww

[sullen dove]

yet magically tuning continues

[remote bobcat]

tldr: balance changes

[sullen dove]

thane good aoe

[remote bobcat]

over some patches

[sullen dove]

thats bout it

[remote bobcat]

thane good sustained aoe

👍

SwagCool

[sullen dove]

[remote bobcat]

less burst aoe than slayer

[empty mirage]

aight one mo question gang members

[remote bobcat]

Wokege

sup gang

[empty mirage]

599 ilvl what m+ should i run

like 4?

[remote bobcat]

anything u can get into

but like

[sullen dove]

yea...

[remote bobcat]

idk if u can upgrade gear rn

[sullen dove]

do some world quests perhaps

explorer gear is 597

from questline at least

[remote bobcat]

delves give 610

no?

[empty mirage]

god damn

[remote bobcat]

610 adventurer track

[sullen dove]

idk if u can get delve loot anymore

tho i did do a non bountiful new delve i guess

[remote bobcat]

sarri posted earlier i think

[sullen dove]

so makes sense there wasnt a chest

[teal badge]

Appreciate it, ty

[empty mirage]

i really dont wanna do delves lmao

so boring

[remote bobcat]

sry it was lincc not sarri

[south kayak]

Don’t heal me guys

[sullen dove]

someone in my guild showed they got like 623 loot from weekly theater troupe

[south kayak]

I need 415 mastery

[sullen dove]

presumably awakening the machine too

was spelunker candle

i think that means u can get higher ilvl shadowed knife

which

[remote bobcat]

but this is anger management, so its different to what you might be used to. if you have certain learned timings of CDs, going Reckless Abandon over Anger Management might be the idea

[remote bobcat]

wildin

[south kayak]

This week is good for alts you haven’t done anything on last season

[remote bobcat]

ima be real i just wanna swag on other boosters this week

with buffed fury

SwagCool

[clever belfry]

i will walk into raid
Kill bosses
log out 👍

[remote bobcat]

boring

sounds like u dont have much fun anda

[sullen dove]

you will be chain wiping to sprocketmonger and you will like it

[clever belfry]

🤷‍♂️

[remote bobcat]

i mean thats next week tho

[clever belfry]

its 2am on a weekday

idk

[remote bobcat]

i hope you rekindle your fire, boss

[clever belfry]

and this is on

[steady wharf]

anyone have a talent build for mythic queen/

[sullen dove]

peak

[wise solar]

My next stupid question:

bloodbath,if=buff.bloodcraze.stack>=1|(talent.uproar&dot.bloodbath_dot.remains<40&talent.bloodborne)|buff.enrage.up&buff.enrage.remains<gcd

Why do we need uproar talent for this decision here?
(talent.uproar&dot.bloodbath_dot.remains<40&talent.bloodborne)

I can understand, why we need talent.bloodborne and dot.bloodbath_dot.remains<40, but I don't get the Uproar talent part.

[remote bobcat]

scroll up

[steady wharf]

thx

[remote bobcat]

uproar is the talent that increases bleed damage iirc right?

[sullen dove]

halves its cd

[sick horizon]

have you guys simmed yet? ST seems very high now

[wise solar]

I think it is CD reduce for Thunderous Roar

[clever belfry]

it is the cdr yes

[wise solar]

Bloodborne which is increasing the bleed effects dmg.

Or Thunderous Words, but it should only increase it for Thunderous Roar.

[clever belfry]

thunderous words increases all bleeds while roar is up

bloodborne is indeed a flat bonus for all bleeds

[undone flower]

Yeah someone dropped on my guild disc a doc with everyone sim and I saw fury STRONk, idk if it is accurate tho

[remote bobcat]

fury is giga now

before 4set.

with 4set we good

but not giga

but now

[undone flower]

It is our ST patch

[remote bobcat]

we giga

[south kayak]

People talking about no raids or m+ this week, bro just walk into raid

Simple

[remote bobcat]

nerubar palace

[clever belfry]

got a final reclear innit

[remote bobcat]

😏

[clever belfry]

need a new title for next reclear

[sour frigate]

long live the queen

[undone flower]

Gilded Crest farming

[wise solar]

Ohh, yes, then it should be:

bloodbath,if=buff.bloodcraze.stack>=1|(talent.thunderous_words&dot.bloodbath_dot.remains<40&talent.bloodborne)|buff.enrage.up&buff.enrage.remains<gcd

right?

[clever belfry]

idk im too lazy to read the whole line ill be honest

[sour frigate]

based

[remote bobcat]

epilogue

[clever belfry]

with our record on wiping to queen id rather not

[sick horizon]

i simmed right now with s1 gear, with s2 new patch talent build on AM, ST has increased by a LOT

[undone flower]

I was surprised I didn’t got crests in the key I did couple hours ago even tho I’m eu

[winter shoal]

Yeah man our main abilities just got buffed like 45% or something

[clever belfry]

EU Crests were always tied to NA

whole season

our crest cap increased on NA reset

they griefed smth 👍

[remote bobcat]

yup^

[clever belfry]

not sure how this wasnt fixed

but alas

[south kayak]

The Return of the Queen

[remote bobcat]

i remember going for more dungeons every tuesday despite being eu

checks out

[undone flower]

I think it is on purpose, the cyrce upgrade also was global on NA reset

[remote bobcat]

queen is dead.

[sour frigate]

fuck raidbuffs sounds like my avg pug run

[clever belfry]

buckingham palace announced the death of her majesty, queen ansurek the first

i think is a name

[south kayak]

Btw isn’t mark of the wild an insane buff

[clever belfry]

yes

[remote bobcat]

its massive

[sour frigate]

buckingham-ar palace*

[south kayak]

3% dps and 1.5% dr

[clever belfry]

king

[undone flower]

Ofc you can have a name around the RWL

[south kayak]

I think they should nerf it

It’s actually broken

[remote bobcat]

meanwhile we have 10% hp shout

and 5% ap shout

👍

[clever belfry]

500 pulls and still dogshit

is also a name we could get

[undone flower]

Let the feral druids enjoy their time in m+, they deserve it

[south kayak]

Btw rallying cry in cata is 20% hp

[undone flower]

After it I’m ok

[clever belfry]

(idk how many pulls we have total on ansurek including all reclears, probs like 400)

[clever belfry]

SL/BFA with right traits had bigger ones 👍

[south kayak]

Remember that passive no one used

[clever belfry]

💀

50% pickrate on reclear top100

[tulip tundra]

anyone else seen ret and dk damage yet?

[smoky vale]

how do i ask a question to ask a question to ask a question

[clever belfry]

zhai profile pic

[undone flower]

Member

[sour frigate]

they were big in df1

[south kayak]

Rallying cry is pathetic

[smoky vale]

rip schnappi

[south kayak]

Pathetic cry

More like

[smoky vale]

i think rally is the worst raid cd

[south kayak]

Buff it back to 20

[smoky vale]

by a lot

was it 30% +10 from a talent point

[undone flower]

Schni Schna Schnappi?

[smoky vale]

yarp

[south kayak]

And make it stronger in group content

[smoky vale]

yea

[south kayak]

Off gcd too

[smoky vale]

also if it wasnt 3 minutes would be cool

[remote bobcat]

rally needs to be buffed for 5man groups while also just being more useful in raid scenarios

its just shit rn

[south kayak]

What if it’s 1 min in dungeons

[warm crag]

gio57 = galastronk where is schnappi

[clever belfry]

gio = gala

schni schna schnappi

schnappi schnappi schnapp

[south kayak]

Same first letter

[edgy widget]

you can sim yourself now

[south kayak]

Thoughts on Schweppes

[clever belfry]

which one

[south kayak]

Tangerine

[undone flower]

Im glad I live next to Germany to know das Klein krokodile

[clever belfry]

what the fuck

[south kayak]

Maybe I misspelled it

[clever belfry]

ive never seen that ill be real

[smoky vale]

schnappi died

[clever belfry]

bitter lemon, ginger ale and uhh the 3rd one

tonic

yes

[undone flower]

That ?

[south kayak]

For some reason that one isn’t being sold here

Tangerine

Yes

That one

[remote bobcat]

wwtf

[undone flower]

Oh gosh it’s too white for 2 am I’m sorry

[clever belfry]

ive legit never seen that

[remote bobcat]

liquid sugar

[south kayak]

That’s the best one by far

[wise solar]

Archimtiros, can you confirm this or is it intended?

[south kayak]

It was in Bosnia

[junior gale]

nah dont buff it like that 3 min cd 50% max health while in a 5 man is all we need

[clever belfry]

these are the only ones i ever see, with white peach and wild berry being "rare"

[south kayak]

50???

[sour frigate]

i mean i have this randomly appeared in my feed

after u started shnapping

[clever belfry]

welcome to discord selling ur data

[south kayak]

What’s your favorite one

[sour frigate]

that was fucking fast tho

[clever belfry]

fat bastard

[sour frigate]

who needs my data

[tulip tundra]

I see Ret and at least UDK simming about 30% higher on single target

[junior gale]

😎

[smoky vale]

advertisers to sell your data

[smoky vale]

duhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[clever belfry]

a guy from uni once showed me a self heating faucet on a discord stream and we talked about it for 2min. No text. 5min later i got an ad for it :)

[smoky vale]

lol

[clever belfry]

i was fucking flabbergasted

[sour frigate]

i mean i had something similar but the dank video post is just next level

[smoky vale]

lord andussy

[clever belfry]

i dont normally look up faucets either (shocker)

[sour frigate]

[smoky vale]

i have started to make progress on my coding project

i asked a qeustion 🙂

[clever belfry]

what the code doing

[south kayak]

I got an ad talking about something irl

[smoky vale]

have neural network learn to play fire emblem

i need to figure out scripting on emulator part first

[sour frigate]

same

was discussing a vacuum cleaner and got ads on it

[south kayak]

They’re listening to us

[sour frigate]

[clever belfry]

u also need to feed back parameters to the NN

[south kayak]

DONT TRUST THE SYSTEM

[smoky vale]

yeah its going to be a long project

[sour frigate]

so we should sandbag bout warrior irl

[clever belfry]

try to boil it down to as few as necessary or your perf will tank

[smoky vale]

i have 0 CLUE WHAT IM DOING

[clever belfry]

as few as necessary, as many as u can afford kinda

its a hard balance :+1

[south kayak]

Talk about sandbagging warrior

[smoky vale]

:3

[undone flower]

The No Nut ?

[clever belfry]

nutty

[south kayak]

Get ads asking for warrior buffs

Glorious

[sour frigate]

🙏

[smoky vale]

andussy ill have a prototype soon

will be badass!

[clever belfry]

sureyl

[south kayak]

surey

[clever belfry]

who is excited for the only good star wars show (andor) season 2 in 2 months

[sour frigate]

surey L

[past pivot]

Ask out loud how warriors will do this new season. See if you get an add for BM hunters

[south kayak]

I tried watching it

And I stopped

[undone flower]

I enjoyed Star Wars 9

[smoky vale]

guys thoughts on my new build

[south kayak]

Rogue one was goated

[clever belfry]

#arms

[south kayak]

The movie

[clever belfry]

i thought rogue one was good

[undone flower]

I didn’t see it yet, I rewatched 1-2-3 two weeks ago I was in a Star Wars mood

[marble schooner]

aight I kinda maybe havent read the guides yet but I gather from using AM that we dont full send BT anymore right?

[clever belfry]

but andor s1 is a masterpiece in television

[sour frigate]

[marble schooner]

we save that shit for when its stacked or tier procs(?

[junior gale]

Loved Andor

excited for season 2

[clever belfry]

theyre releasing 4x3 episodes (one set for each of the seasons arcs)

[junior gale]

good more TV needs to be this way

Arcane started it

[undone flower]

Something is missing in your left hand

[summer quail]

depending on how good andor s2 is, it might be my fav tv show of all time. s1 is a masterpiece

[sour frigate]

take this

[smoky vale]

bring back df ww

😦

[clever belfry]

(recency bias speaking) but itll be hard to beat better call saul for me, it stayed good for so long somehow

[summer quail]

plus with rogue one existing the ending can be somewhat safe but good at the same time

[clever belfry]

but yeh andor s1 is my single favourite season of anything as of now

[undone flower]

I got that doc still amazed war will get nerfed again https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14Us4SYeq2fr3sG-iv1ADOORaO5NZqXFhQdt7UJzpfro/htmlview#gid=1912032410

[sour frigate]

global panic

oh no spec doing good in tunnel st

[clever belfry]

atleast WW has some cleave when specced ST

ask fury about that

[sour frigate]

[edgy widget]

it's ok, once everyone else stops sandbagging, we won't look nearly as strong anymore

[clever belfry]

warlocks arent sandbagging wdym

[smoky vale]

cope

[sly tapir]

any queen ansurek builds for this week?

[sour frigate]

ww has no aoe specced aoe

[smoky vale]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-staring-skinwalker-dougy-doug-gif-16854398839794515932

[tulip tundra]

that's single target?

[clever belfry]

just proc 7 chiji and proc the shadow fist thing when aoe happens m8

[sour frigate]

truege

therefore skill issue

btw even with giga chiji fists > crane

[undone flower]

You can click on the numbers (yes it is ST)https://mimiron.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4Ad5c9mRkkjbCnTXRtpGNK/simc

[sour frigate]

being capped sucks

same for fury 100%

[keen sequoia]

any changes on rotation for this new talentss?

[opaque falcon]

Did valorstones get reset?

[glad coyote]

gotta love patch days

[orchid moth]

anyone know if this is looking like an arms tier or a fury tier

[opaque falcon]

Arms

[glad coyote]

prot

[covert blaze]

both are good, it will depend on how the fights play out

[earnest pike]

Well I used to spike 5m on 5 targets then drop to about 4.5 now I spike to 3.5 and drop to 2.5.

Anyone else notice a massive dps loss?

[restive peak]

Valor and crests were reset, yes

They all gone

I'm already back to like 1200 valors from like 2.5hrs of playing though

[warm crag]

liar liar pants on fire

[restive peak]

COME CHECK ME OUT SPONGER

[summer quail]

weird, your dps should go up. i'm on EU so no patch yet for me

[restive peak]

You get a ton from the quest chain and looting the baby treasures and rares

Ez clap

[warm crag]

ye thats probably true

get cooked buddy

[earnest pike]

It has very much not gone up. Full mythic geared 639.

[sour frigate]

why would u sim 5t5m

[smoky vale]

how much gold did you get from the crests

surely my 2000 gilded crests are worth something

[summer quail]

just to confirm, you are testing in the same places both times? no like testing in raid for one and on dummies for another

[warm crag]

is this a "my sim went down" situation or a "i am hitting a target dummy for an irrelevant amount of time" situation

[earnest pike]

Dummies

[sour frigate]

🤔

therefore fury deadge

[earnest pike]

I mean not necessarily. But I am feeling a big DPS loss. With both Slayer and MT.

[sullen dove]

i mean youre not playing RA so youre not bursting with huge bloodbaths and crushing blows

but really shouldnt be like massively lower could just be a krill differential

no odyns anymore either

wowie my instant pad damage per screenshot button

[earnest pike]

The loss of BB and CB and Odyns is noticable.

[sour frigate]

its just no burst

full flat dmg profile

[sullen dove]

to peak of your damage sure but twice as often cds or more way better overall

[warm crag]

is your sim down or just what you feel like you should be hitting on target dummies

[restive peak]

I didn’t have mail ingame so zero it appears

[restive peak]

Love you

[sour frigate]

its a shame we have no way to spend it even for some gold/mats

forgot to stock some reagents tho

[earnest pike]

Yeah you guys are right, just zero burst now.

Flat damage.

[sullen dove]

if u want burst hop on that arms

nice big demolish and collat dam cleave

[earnest pike]

Sigh, I hate arms man haha.

[thick fossil]

Wrong channel.

[sullen dove]

burst meaning like peak of its dmg like 15-18 sec after fighting a pull

xd

[thick fossil]

Spear and roar ...

[sullen dove]

loboz ass build

[warm crag]

thank you loboz

[clever belfry]

lobussy

😳

[warm crag]

@sullen dove what you doing if you see this

[clever belfry]

he aint gaming

[warm crag]

leaked?

[sullen dove]

ignore it as i have never seen that in my life

and guess that i will be glad that i havent

[earnest pike]

Also our cooldowns don't line up now.

[sullen dove]

instead i will be taking a look at ear

[clever belfry]

woke pfp ahh ass

[warm crag]

bad news but someone locked in hive and you are going to die now

[warm crag]

what is woke about my pfp

it was revealed in yesterdays update that v1 fears death true

fear of death woke?

[undone flower]

It’s gay

[clever belfry]

OVERTLY PRO LGBT MESSAGING

man these people

can not be serious

[sullen dove]

woke

[clever belfry]

this has to be a bit

right

right

[sullen dove]

wing??

[sullen dove]

wyd when you see

[clever belfry]

me when i cant draw swastikas!!!!!

[clever belfry]

u buy tuning calibrator

[sullen dove]

and roll nothing

[warm crag]

U can Catch a shark and some mannequins spell gay from some weird angle

This is overt

[clever belfry]

im playing null hand ouvert

[sullen dove]

look at this quirked up thing i got

me when system actually did something good

[clever belfry]

i NEED to gamble

[sullen dove]

acquire evelussy

[clever belfry]

no

she is unpullable

[sullen dove]

y

she cool

[clever belfry]

the jiggle is extremely offputting 👍

[sullen dove]

they all jiggle man

look at caesar

[clever belfry]

not like that

i dont have caesar yanagi or eve 👍

[undone flower]

which game ? For a friend

[sullen dove]

💤

astra is also supreme jiggle

for no reason

her ult animation breh

[clever belfry]

https://dev.enka.network/zzz/1500096359/ real

[sullen dove]

what is this

why it want my sign in

ip grabbed

its over

[clever belfry]

oh just

tester
meowmeowmeow

i forgor its test build

[sullen dove]

what the sigma

but yea i played 1.0 then insta logged off forever

then came back to say hello to miyabi

so my character situation is uh

situating

[clever belfry]

i have idk

missed a day

maybe

[sullen dove]

ellen and the last 3

[clever belfry]

maybe 0

[sullen dove]

new anby excitin

(just got robo creature too)

[clever belfry]

regular anby skin > sanby skin

[sullen dove]

borgar woman

[clever belfry]

burgir

[sullen dove]

boorgir

[sour frigate]

Dps race in m10?

[sullen dove]

arm

[clever belfry]

@warm crag result?

[warm crag]

Loser

[clever belfry]

l=====ser

[fiery quiver]

Anyone have a good sugestion to new talents fury pvp?

[dense elbow]

#pvp , but you just take the cheaper ramp talent, so you can go ramp-ramp in the burst window. You don't take OF anymore, as in PvP it doesn't double up as a free GCD and is nerfed 60%

Just take unhinged instead, and flex point into RA node

[sinful spoke]

anyone know if we need new keys for delves this season

or is it the same

[restive peak]

No idea but I have all mine and the new area is rewarding the key pieces to make them. Confused/10

[sinful spoke]

same

[upper grove]

All keys and undercoin will be reset, so hold your boxes that reward them this week from what I understood in some vids

[covert blaze]

hopefully not

i have like 200 keys

[upper grove]

They won't be used

:/

[frank dawn]

yeh they aren't gonna let you go into a new season with unlimited bountiful keys lol

[upper grove]

same with undercoin, so get anything you want from the vendor in dorn next to Brann

[covert blaze]

the lag on the new zone is unplayable

im gonna punch a hole through my screen

[whole yacht]

does cartel matter at all? or just cosmetic?

[junior gale]

all cosmetic

[whole yacht]

word tanks

thanks*

[smoky vale]

what game is this

[harsh barn]

How has fury felt? I haven’t been able to play yet 😦

[sullen dove]

honkai

(the worst one)

[smoky vale]

impact?

[brazen olive]

what we using for ansurek for old raid still this week?

[vocal igloo]

anybody else notice frenzied enrage movement speed buff no longer stacks with elusive blasphemite gem movement speed buff?

[glad coyote]

47% of our damage comes from 2 abilities for m+

[keen sequoia]

I just tried Arms, is that slow or its just me

[glad coyote]

yeah

[summer quail]

Never stacked in the first place

[vocal igloo]

i'm fairly certain i was able to get to 138% movement speed with that gem

[frozen berry]

Are the suggested talent builds on WoWhead what we wanna use when we're still using the old teir set or does it not matter?

[young swan]

tier has 0 impact on talent choices

for s1 and s2

[tired dragon]

what talent build would yall rock on mythic ansurek?

[young swan]

id try AM personally

[sour tundra]

is thane still better than slayer in mythic +

[snow edge]

Guides are updated on wowhead

[clever path]

I haven’t been able to look, what’s the diff in dps between arms and fury atm, sim wise? Is it worth to switch to arms? I was planning on waiting till the class nerfs hit after raid opens but my guild is wanting to know what im aiming for

[snow edge]

Arms or Fury won’t impact your raid comp though right? So just ‘TBC’ it

[clever path]

Yeah that’s what I said but they seem stressed over it. Just wanted to know if the diff was that big

Probably will wait a week or two to see what hits

[snow edge]

Arms is technically slightly ahead on paper in ST, however fight mechanics will dictate whether one is better (and whether a certain spec is better)

[clever path]

That’s very true

[snow edge]

ie Fury AM is ‘better’, but as others have said the fight design may lean into RA

[clever path]

Yep I get ya, gonna go with my original plan then, stay fury for now cause that’s what I’m geared for. Change to arms if the difference is big

[upbeat plume]

I will say just slapping out execute again with SD feels like of nice, and taking juggernaught in most builds makes those crits feel good lol

[rose bay]

ultrakill

love that game

[celest sierra]

Bladestorm better then ravanger for ST slayer? right ?

cause of the Slayer nvm im dumb

[edgy widget]

Always BS as Slayer

[runic brook]

for those big mythic raid gamers does the new raid seem fun from what you guys know/ptr

or do the fights seem annoying

[past pivot]

new raid is next week

[sullen dove]

helpful information for his question