yarp
#fury
smoky vale
celest sierra
bout time they give us something so broken
sinful spoke
get to work chop chop archi
smoky vale
get to work chop chop archi
lock in
smoky vale
no
young swan
Will season 1 M+ still be available next week?
no
smoky vale
gm xan
lone leaf
Thank you both for response
young swan
which?
glass kelp
I mean i know i can check out utube or read articles about it, but are we seriously this shit in S2 ? Comparing to WW monks where do we stand since i mained monk the past two expac and i really wanted to go furt this season
harsh frost
summer quail
I mean i know i can check out utube or read articles about it, but are we seriou...
we're pretty good in s2
glass kelp
In both contens? Raids and m+?
summer quail
yeah
winter shoal
Yeah idk where you got the idea that warrior was gonna be shit in s2
It's looking very strong, probably not meta in M+ but capable of very high keys
And one of the best melee in raid
slim coral
I mean i know i can check out utube or read articles about it, but are we seriou...
bro what
fury is like top A tier
winter shoal
Swordish stole the only r1 I've ever gotten and I'll never forgive him
undone flower
join gio super team
Why you changed your pic
outer cedar
What hero talent is good in season2 m+ ??
slim coral
What hero talent is good in season2 m+ ??
check wowhead but tldr it's moutain thane
outer cedar
check wowhead but tldr it's moutain thane
um.. thank you
steel sky
tbh there are many meta tier list videos out there that rank fury on lowest tier incl yoda etc. Arms ranked better….. however, dont care meta lists🙂
unreal onyx
Fury will never be meta unless it does insane dmg
But thats been the case since forever
fading sky
Ye, if shit = not meta
dont choose warriir
outer cedar
I think wow team don't like warrior.. we need more dmg but.. nerf.... very sad
summer quail
I think wow team don't like warrior.. we need more dmg but.. nerf.... very sad
everyone expected a nerf tho
cerulean grail
summer quail
i'm not too worried about fury
edgy widget
What nerf? Lol -5% is nothing compared to what we gained
It’s a net buff, and by a pretty wide margin too
ornate gust
i wanna op like other specs for a whole season
devout zodiac
How far behind is slayer fury in keys?
I love the slayer playstyle but I don't want to feel like I'm trolling by not playing thane
hollow raptor
Maybe a bit of a niche question but for those that are still raiding this coming week, how much better will fury be in raid with the 11.1 changes?
summer quail
Maybe a bit of a niche question but for those that are still raiding this coming...
in st like 20% ish
i'm not raiding this upcoming week but still
hollow raptor
20% better? 
summer quail
ye
unreal onyx
As slayer I assume
We're raiding on patchday tomorrow to hopefully finally kill queen
Race to world last
hollow raptor
Gl sir
summer quail
As slayer I assume
ye
sinful mantle
We're raiding on patchday tomorrow to hopefully finally kill queen
Can't lose if you're winning
potent thicket
why we got nerfed 😦
unkempt dagger
we still got buffed
ornate gust
why we got nerfed 😦
to ensure this discord channel is active 24x7
unkempt dagger
to ensure this discord channel is active 24x7
also this 99%
unkempt dagger
do you know whether mythic 0 is open at weekly reset or not
we'll know the answer one NA gets the patch
young swan
Do I gotta do the 10.7 storyline and such before the new patch?
dont ahve to but should
if you dont you just have to do it when the patch launches
but you dont have to do it before the patch
elfin vortex
Zug zug morning!
Season 2 babeeeee
queen panther
I thought the buff to odyns fury was reverted? Why do I see it in the patch notes?
vernal laurel
do you know whether mythic 0 is open at weekly reset or not
Trying to figure out the same thing. If its not out this week its completely worthless no? We will just skip it and do keys instead next week anyway
vernal laurel
I thought the buff to odyns fury was reverted? Why do I see it in the patch note...
If you mean the 15% buff, they added that recently
Not that it actually makes us play Odyns fury though, still garbo
queen panther
yeah fair, I just remember a revert to Odysns buff at some point
I was just like fuck the button that no one presses anymore anyways
red berry
id still like it to be buffed so that we have more options for AoE
high echo
Not this season I think
Unless they do it in the middle out of nowhere, and if your class isn't shaman/hunter
clever belfry
this is false
it was SL
heavy nacelle
are all the changes to m+ and gearing gonna make it easier to get m+ invites in S2? as a friendless, guildless pug dps warr enjoyer, how hard is it gonna be to get invites to 12-13 keys for the 3k achiv?
on a scale from 1-10 😛
unreal onyx
Pug in week 1, propably hard
heavy nacelle
really? I expect week 1 to be easy with all the activity ;O
unreal onyx
Idk how changes in gearing are gonna affect invite rates
Week 1 13s? I assume if ppl pug them they are gonna to for meta specs
Not sure how hard they are gonna be
heavy nacelle
no no lol, week 1 probably not even 10s 🙂 I mean like.. throughout the season at any point
if I decide to go for 3000
am I gonna be sitting in queue for half a day
unreal onyx
Propably same odds as every other season
unreal onyx
3k is easy to get with pugs tho
Not really tryhard
You can get that with every spec relatively soon
heavy nacelle
maybe your pain tolerance is higher than mine, I only cleared one +10 on my warr S1 then gave up cause it took so long between groups
had to force myself to play a healer so I could at least play the game 😛
unreal onyx
I had not too hard of a time to get in 12s
heavy nacelle
if you had to come up with an average number of minutes lfg for a 12 -,-?
i assume it'll be quicker because +12 should be easier this season right? and more people will be motivated to push so they can get the 3k achiv as opposed to quitting at +10
so more available groups
snow edge
My guy - no one knows that, but assume away
heavy nacelle
i want you to assume too 😛
snow edge
Participation rates, community perception, dungeon difficulty and tuning, additional class tuning; who knows what it’ll be like
sullen cloak
Hey guys. Is there any real change in our single and aoe rotation with the changes incoming?
Didn't seem to see much of a change
sullen cloak
Yeah that's what I picked up.
Still rampage to enrage then crushing blow- bloodbath
Raging blow then rampage and cycle again
smoky vale
you only bc and cb inside of recklessness
smoky vale
Why you changed your pic
bc i like new one
unkempt dagger
if you had to come up with an average number of minutes lfg for a 12 -,-?
stupid advice, but try to search for a guild
i was randomly sitting in durongal, with nothing to do, found a guild that i play daily with and they are delight to be around
and they dont really care that im a warrior as long as i have a brain
heavy nacelle
stupid advice, but try to search for a guild
I'm not a fun person to be around so I prefer to just solo 🙂 and it's actually really fun to play with different people all the time
oblique trail
At least you're aware
unkempt dagger
ah , then you do you my friend, im just saying what helped me a lot
but understandable that not everyone is the same way!
ornate gust
oblique trail
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/14Us4SYeq2fr3sG-iv1ADOORaO5NZqXFhQdt7...
These numbers aren't accurate
unkempt dagger
i never understood simming, since im not that long on retail
ornate gust
These numbers aren't accurate
which numbers are not that semi-accurate?
smoky vale
me when no pi during execute
oblique trail
which numbers are not that semi-accurate?
Fury is quite lower than it's actual numbers, while Arms is roughly what it's supposed to be from last I looked
ornate gust
Fury is quite lower than it's actual numbers, while Arms is roughly what it's su...
I am waiting for this page to go live.
oblique trail
Right
oblique trail
I can't speak for the rest of the specs on there because I don't care about them
But the Warrior numbers at the very least are not accurate
ornate gust
then go drama and actions as business as usual 🤣
oblique trail
It's also Izen so I will by default ignore it 👍
unkempt dagger
It's also Izen so I will by default ignore it 👍
shots fired
ornate gust
I dont take those sheet srsly but for fun 😅
covert blaze
pi sims are always cooked
flat river
pi sims are always cooked
Good thing i have a pocket priest
earnest canyon
Good thing i have a pocket priest
is he a gnome
flat river
Nah he's a human
flat river
Bad thing about pocket priest though
Sometimes when i raid with pugs
Multiple people use PI on me
And I don't get log
smoky vale
yarp
lethal gate
Hi,is there eny BIS list yet?
earnest canyon
Hi,is there eny BIS list yet?
lethal gate
https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/bis-gear
thx a lot
thorny vigil
Will need top farm Gallywix a lot, shit xD
molten night
yerp
is cyrce's ring that strong that it stay all expac xD?
or is the gear list preliminary?
undone flower
They will nerf it
oblique trail
Their tuning rarely is the best
undone flower
They will let you enjoy it for few weeks and bury it in S1 coffin
molten night
ive been using the full stats on the ring too (simmed highest for some weird reason) but im guessing with scaling it might change.
or it simmed SUPER close
and i said w/e
young badge
I'm playing warrior fury, and I don't have current talents in wow head, tomorrow's ones are coming out, can someone give me the warrior fury raid talents with today's patch, not tomorrow's?
oblique trail
You can copy them from warcraftlogs
young badge
can show me the link pls?
oblique trail
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/38?boss=2898&class=Warrior&spec=Fury you just go here and pick whatever boss
Then go into whatever log and you can copy their talents there
modest hollow
new season tomorrow?
clever path
Ugh the fact like half our bis is from m plus hurts my soul
oblique trail
Spoiler: It does not matter at all 👍
somber elk
Guys which content will Release tomorrow?
fervent yoke
do you guys use self highlight on your character?
iron portal
Spoiler: It does not matter at all 👍
||Spoiler||
undone flower
do you guys use self highlight on your character?
I have the circle and silhouette personally yes
If you talk about that
sand crest
the delve trinket could be a 15% upgrade you would not catch me farming that shit
fervent yoke
I have the circle and silhouette personally yes
does it get distracting at all? thinking about using it in raids sometimes I can barely see my toon
undone flower
i just raided once since i turned it on so i couldn't tell the difference, for now it's more a power move towards my friends who doesn't know it existed
potent sinew
Well at least we get Dinars, right?... I am gunna have to spend all my dinars on double weapons and trink again aren't I?
ornate gust
Well at least we get Dinars, right?... I am gunna have to spend all my dinars on...
as usual xD
whole yacht
Most likely putting everything in, so they can have a shorter maintenance next week for raid.
We just won't have ACCESS to everything m
molten night
what are they going to add_
everything...
keen sequoia
Class changes will be up now or next week?
covert blaze
now
keen sequoia
Cool
covert blaze
hoary crystal
all of the ptr changes are making it to live according to patchnotes?
radiant plank
battle shout
molten night
ahhhh ok
final eagle
so with today changes, we change to AM with current tier set??
thick fossil
Don't think much was tested with current tier.
Not that it matters, there isn't much to do other than quests and story.
oblique thistle
I imagine we can get away with new talents considering how low impact our current tier set is
In fact, with the changes to titans torment and reckless abandon, we're pretty much forced to use new talent builds anyways
clever path
Spoiler: It does not matter at all 👍
No I know, I’ll just use what I get that’s good and upgrades
Just hurts seeing it lol
Cause vault is a crap shoot
oblique trail
I cannot really relate to that at all
Unless you ONLY gear through the vault for any myth track items, and even then whatever else you'll get in those slots will be more than servicable
clever path
Like I said, I know. Raid gear will work fine. I just enjoy going for bis as best I can
dense elbow
M+ got some real Uber BiS, or we talking basically sidegrade options? 
slim pollen
Spoiler: It does not matter at all 👍
It does for my overall ilvl, when i go a whole season and only ever see 1 good trinket out of the vault at mythic track 
oblique trail
Good for you then that we don't want any dungeon trinkets
slim pollen
True I guess 
acoustic barn
am i reading this right? did they miss the 50% execute buff for fury?
oblique trail
It should still be included, but just missed in the notes
radiant plank
Good for you then that we don't want any dungeon trinkets
Yeah good thing we want Delve trinkets instead
oblique trail
At least they're somewhat "farmable"
Because of maps
Though saying that is quite a stretch
slim pollen
Yeeeh, 5 maps across several characters through all of season 1 
dense elbow
Just make 50 warriors
restive edge
Ugh the fact like half our bis is from m plus hurts my soul
Was bis list updated on wowhead?
glad coyote
i cant get the m+ build to load on either talent tree
coping it and importing it and doesnt load
dense elbow
Site prob overloaded by the 1000s of ppl trying the same thing. Just try again a bit later
clever path
Was bis list updated on wowhead?
Yeah from what I can tell it has been
glad coyote
wonder how big of a damage boost the weapons give
what % of overall dmg comes from it
winter shoal
this is false
it was SL
It was actually DN
restive edge
How do I sell my body for splits
I knew having all these geared alts would pay off eventually
restive edge
And where do I find these discord 👁️ 👄 👁️
glad coyote
why echo going to win again
dense elbow
Sounds like a Google angle
radiant plank
And where do I find these discord 👁️ 👄 👁️
depends on your region
if eu, join echos discord and methods discord
if NA join liquids discord
edgy oasis
S2 builds not live yet? We rolling arms or fury for raid?
radiant plank
🔮
coarse nest
We will roll arms or fury yes
clever path
Whatever you wanna play both specs look good
Arms will most likely get a nerf coming up
Maybe fury too but im pretty sure arms will snag
regal vector
If current tuning stands you will probably end up playing both specs for certain fights
clever path
Having two gear sets? Good luck
coarse nest
Craft two hand farm heroic off hand
restive peak
It’s likely both specs, they’re also close enough that unless you’re in the RWF it won’t matter
frank dawn
The single target of both specs wasn’t that far apart last I saw, but arms obviously heavy into execute phase
restive peak
Like you’re not gonna int you world 500 guild by not swapping arms
regal vector
True
frank dawn
Also that
ornate gust
The single target of both specs wasn’t that far apart last I saw, but arms obvio...
and 2 target fight
coarse nest
Like you’re not gonna int you world 500 guild by not swapping arms
^ this, it’s basically just a W for people who like to play arms!
Fury can still crank too
clever path
I like old arms. Really don’t like aoe arms for m plus since the redesign
Single target arms is good though and fun
frank dawn
But does anyone actually like playing arms
coarse nest
👋
hardy bluff
me
clever path
Though I do miss pre dragon flight arms
clever path
Was arms main for like 10 years then DF made me hate it
ornate gust
But does anyone actually *like* playing arms
i gave it a decent try while fighting Nexus. i liked when MS hit hard
restive peak
This iteration of arms is fun
thick fossil
I dropped Arms mostly in Shadowlands.
gloomy loom
Valorstones and crests reset when? Upcoming week or next?
clever path
Ill give arms another try this tier maybe
But if it’s still clunky in aoe I’ll drop it no matter how good it is
barren ore
how much better is arms now?
hardy bluff
Valorstones and crests reset when? Upcoming week or next?
we dont really know
wowhead said they are already gone on na
restive peak
It’s just cleave on CD Azzy
Not really clunky, has a few more buttons than fury though
clever path
I mean compared to old arms
thick fossil
The clunky of Arms is never having cool downs line up except for the first time.
clever path
Just too many buttons
thick fossil
It's not any more or less buttons than before.
celest sierra
Super excited to switch back to AM today
gloomy loom
wowhead said they are already gone on na
So we cant upgrade the item we get from vault tomorrow 😑
hardy bluff
So we cant upgrade the item we get from vault tomorrow 😑
please read the message i send before
we dont know
maybe you can maybe you cant
barren ore
in DF you couldn‘t
gloomy loom
Super excited to switch back to AM today
I hate AM, I hope we can still play RA
hardy bluff
I hate AM, I hope we can still play RA
you can its just a bit worse
celest sierra
You can but rn AM I simming better cause of the flat buffs to our abilities
glad coyote
cant wait for spear
atomic pelican
is this m0 only today
hardy bluff
is this m0 only today
what
atomic pelican
so what do we do?
hardy bluff
log out
barren ore
play kingdom come deliverance 2 and on friday monster hunter wilds
glad coyote
for 6 days
some one said we can farm delves today for vault next week
idk if thats true
edgy widget
you can probably do the delves, but it's almost certain you'll get a S1 vault, since that's how it's always worked in the past
so if you wanna farm delves for 600ilvl gear, sure lol
edgy widget
enjoy time off before the real grind starts
fathom wolf
Spend the week finding an m+ team so it doesn't take on average 14 hours to fill yer vault via pugs.
coarse nest
Take your giga buffed warrior and run season 1 keys for fun
dense elbow
Don't forget BGs PvP to onetap ppl 
coarse nest
Ohhh true bro!
I never pvp unless I’m op and don’t have to understand what’s happening
high echo
you will fit right in
ornate prism
Not Mystic dungeons opened today?
thick fossil
No mystic dungeons.
No mythic either.
pulsar quest
I Ctrl-F to look first to see if anybody has mentioned it, but wowhead looks like it still has the old trinket sims on it?
pulsar quest
Or is this just a plugin that updates once the sims themselve update via a 3rd party site
smoky vale
2 maybe
smoky vale
Or is this just a plugin that updates once the sims themselve update via a 3rd p...
^
but idk
remote bobcat
given that arms only beat fury in sims with the season 2 4set, is it safe to say that the last ID of nerubar palace fury is significantly stronger than arms?
left elk
How much percentage is the tier set for us? 3-5%ish?
left elk
Ah okay sweet, yea I heard BMs tier is like an insane 20% had me curious.
forest owl
its in the doc
do you have a link for this please?
hardy vault
what is the best racial horde for dps ? Tauren ?
chrome plover
so what do we do?
play path of exile
chrome plover
what is the best racial horde for dps ? Tauren ?
goblin for goblin patch
dapper goblet
madox for yellow
runic violet
What hthe helll maintenance so long
remote bobcat
do you have a link for this please?
dapper goblet
forest owl
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/10g479vXesC382k68gw4akUKeuGUodbDho0yh...
many thanks
thick fossil
what is the best racial horde for dps ? Tauren ?
Your question was answered in #arms
remote bobcat
but im thinking that during this one last week of nerubar palace
fury is gonna stomp hard
like rly rly hard
dense fulcrum
hey guys someone know if on the wowhead page, even the written guide is updated in the 11.1 page for talents, rotation etc?
junior gale
dense fulcrum
ye i mean the written part of the page
if its updated too
because like it says to take some skill in the written guide, but on the image and imports are different
brittle snow
I want Onslaught to be viable in Dungeons and raids lol
modest condor
looking at the rotation page it still has the s1 talents as default so im gonna assume it hasn't been updated fully yet
brittle snow
Dang ok lol
young swan
I want Onslaught to be viable in Dungeons and raids lol
ur gonna keep wanting
brittle snow
Guess so lol
dense fulcrum
looking at the rotation page it still has the s1 talents as default so im gonna ...
ye, what i thought xD
lets wait for our Archi to cook in peace 🧑🏼🍳
coarse nest
Siegebreaker when
dense elbow
Never, hopefully
midnight kite
Siegebreaker as a dedicated knockback could be a little funny I suppose but I doubt they would do that
remote bobcat
dont cook
coarse nest
It could be cool if it spent rage like rampage, did a significant amount of damage, and also increased the targets damage taken by X amount
steep lynx
damn so odyns fury is dead sheesh
coarse nest
Would tie into AM that way and be a cool little damage amp
steep lynx
i actually am happy asf AM is coming back
tepid cedar
AM is goated
remote bobcat
wtf is up with all the fury players enojying desynced bladestorms in raids
yall are weird
dense elbow
AM in m+ was fun in s1, will be even more fun in s2, as you dont have to line it up with OF for the avatar boost
S2 got some wins, even if the profile is a bit off
coarse nest
It’s not about being desyncd it’s about playing high apm “fast feeling” gameplay loop
quiet geyser
Wait, the fuck, do we not run spear in single target in 11.1?
coarse nest
I quite liked RA myself
remote bobcat
ever ravager on silken court felt relevant
midnight kite
for me it always ends up that the concept of AM is fun but then in practice its kinda meh
remote bobcat
my guess is that RA will be better in most raid encounters anyway
due to mechanics being a thing
dense elbow
That fair, we like what we enjoy. Some enjoy a flat profile, some bursty, some slow and some quick. Anything from RNG impact to animations affect how ya enjoy the spec
tepid cedar
spear+roar+blade gonna be fun lolol
thick fossil
for me it always ends up that the concept of AM is fun but then in practice its ...
We're basically back to Shadowlands s1 build.
dusty cove
with the new RA, do you still need to rampage to get the empowered version?
midnight kite
to stay enraged yeah, but not to empower the abilities
dusty cove
to stay enraged yeah, but not to empower the abilities
ah okay, so when you get thane bursts of power you can just spam several BB's?
thats nice
midnight kite
I have no clue what the prio for RA windows are currently
I just know on PTR testing I did that CB crits hit incredibly hard
modest condor
the priority is the same it's just that cb and bb are available at a different time now
it does change the rotation a little bit since now you can do back to back crushing blows instead of only 1 at a time
midnight kite
I wouldent be suprised if for example you just send crushing blow spam as the prioritty
plush ice
So for am, we use both reck and bs on CD, which puts reck up for every avatar but outside of the opener BS won't ever really sync with anything?
oak garden
whats the DMG % of the 2P/4P in S2?
quiet geyser
So for am, we use both reck and bs on CD, which puts reck up for every avatar bu...
"Won't ever" is a strong stance. You don't plan on it, but with downtime, high/low rolling execute stacks
You never know
azure tulip
whats the DMG % of the 2P/4P in S2?
close to the same for thane
But obvi raid is slayer so yea
not very significant
I told my raid leader to just put me on the bottom of the loot council for tier lol
for arms its slightly better but still below a 10% increase
quiet geyser
How the fuck do we get 2 poo level tier sets in a row
south kayak
yeah, sucks doesn't it
if you wanted a better tier set they'd have to nerf us and buff it though
fuck that
coarse nest
I’d rather be strong without tier set personally
We all know guilds outside of like top 100 have favoritism when loot drops instead of what’s optimal
coarse nest
Blizzard should just use brain and not nerf heroic week
Being good without tierset shouldn’t be an issue
restive peak
Yeah ofc, but it's blizz
coarse nest
But yes I agree that’s why we got owned
south kayak
That's how we ended up giga fucked S1
exactly, was about to say this
performing very well in the first week due to tier set doing shit damage is nerf time
even though it doesn't make any sense because we'd be outdpsed when everyone else gets their tier set
edgy widget
looking at the rotation page it still has the s1 talents as default so im gonna ...
rotation hasn't been pushed yet, the rest have
also we have an updates channel that'll be updated when everything is updated, so just watch out for that
coarse nest
Updating the updated updates just in time for the update
restive peak
We got like 5hrs til we can lag while logging in
coarse nest
restive peak
Noone needs to panic
edgy widget
can't log in anyway cause the servers are down!
gonna extend maintenance and extra 3 hours, just watch
edgy widget
you could be spending this time theorycrafting your MH:W build, smh
edgy widget
Great sword gamer
in your hands more like "good sword" at best
young badge
onslaught is use in endgame? in fury?
coarse nest
Damn how’d you know
edgy widget
onslaught is use in endgame? in fury?
no, onslaught is dead
young badge
why?
smoky vale
does 0 damage
edgy widget
cause its damage isn't any better than BT/RB, it eats 2 extra talent points, and there's not a whole lot of free room in the rotation for it
edgy widget
other question AOE with fury ? rotation?
you can read the guides later today 
hollow forge
mh4u charged blade was the best
sour frigate
https://tenor.com/view/tigrex-mhw-monster-hunter-world-gif-22014346
Looks dog
sour frigate
I missed part where it would look like an actual strike with a hammer
edgy widget
https://tenor.com/view/tigrex-mhw-monster-hunter-world-gif-22014346
6 misses 1 hit 💤
coarse nest
🤣
edgy widget
I do like the eye of sauron lookin skin though
looks like you ripped off c'thun's eye stalk and started beatin people with it
digital merlin
6 misses 1 hit 💤
Me when I'm not hit capped and my weapon skill is only 300
edgy widget
I always ran longsword before, will probably flit between it, greatsword, and S&S though
south kayak
https://tenor.com/view/tigrex-mhw-monster-hunter-world-gif-22014346
POE2 Mace warrior gameplay
but it doesn't hit the boss
u die before it happens
winter shoal
Archi do you know if raidbots is updated for new APL and ability tuning yet?
earnest canyon
Archi do you know if raidbots is updated for new APL and ability tuning yet?
I've just been sending my sims directly to archi and he has been running them locally for me
edgy widget
Archi do you know if raidbots is updated for new APL and ability tuning yet?
raidbots is frozen until patch goes live
winter shoal
I've just been sending my sims directly to archi and he has been running them lo...
I feel like I'd get banned if I did this
earnest canyon
I feel like I'd get banned if I did this
Yeah I am of course joking
winter shoal
raidbots is frozen until patch goes live
Mimiron raidbots should work in the meantime ya?
earnest canyon
there just isnt much else to do really
gusty cloak
coming back to fury for s2 boys
dense elbow
That's how we ended up giga fucked S1
Never forget; never forgive.
hallow cipher
is icy veins correct or are we suppose to use bladestorm insted of ravager as thane ?
dense elbow
Doubt that, depends on purpose - but still, no way raw BS is more value than Rav in todays DPS profile economy
coarse nest
I always ran longsword before, will probably flit between it, greatsword, and S&...
I’m a big fan of the charge blade that’s usually what I run, it’s so satisfying to land the full amped elemental discharge
But also run gs and hammer as mentioned
eternal abyss
"Developers' notes: Fury is overall in a place we are happy with"
tepid crown
https://tenor.com/view/tigrex-mhw-monster-hunter-world-gif-22014346
This goes so hard
edgy widget
is icy veins correct or are we suppose to use bladestorm insted of ravager as th...
where does it say that? cause this is what it shows
edgy widget
I’m a big fan of the charge blade that’s usually what I run, it’s so satisfying ...
wasn't a fan when I played worlds, just too much setup
but then I didn't really like any of the combination weapons that much either
azure holly
so fury will be performing close to arms right? or is the gap big enough that I should consider arms?
I definitely prefer fury atm, more fun
glad coyote
so fury will be performing close to arms right? or is the gap big enough that I ...
yeah
edgy widget
on paper they're pretty close, we'll see what happens in practice
that said, nothing in wow is so difficult you can't play anything and be successful
restive peak
If you're not top like 50 you can play literally anything
edgy widget
you can play ST raid Thane and clear M raid just fine
azure holly
I really wish Arms had thane
frank dawn
the only thing where the gap seems significant is something that's huge on only two target uptime
azure holly
it's like the missing piece imo that arms needs for me to be properly fun in AoE
or even ST
restive peak
Even them, that's a parse thing; it won't dictate your kill
coarse nest
you can play ST raid Thane and clear M raid just fine
Finding a team that will allow it, that’s the trick
edgy widget
the only thing where the gap seems significant is something that's huge on only ...
yeah for the one fight an expansion that actually has two relevant melee cleavable targets lol
edgy widget
Finding a team that will allow it, that’s the trick
it's really not, 99% of guilds don't give a fuck what you play as long as you don't suck ass at it
coarse nest
Tru tru
edgy widget
and out of those, the vast majority of them won't know the difference unless you make it very obvious (usually by sucking lol)
outside of some of the more hardcore trials, I don't think I've ever seen a guild go out of its way to audit what its players are doing unless there's a serious problem they're trying to solve
eternal abyss
No one noticed when I stopped playing slayer in raids.
modest condor
you could be spending this time theorycrafting your MH:W build, smh
im busy theorycrafting fellowship builds
frank dawn
Fellowship actually seems pretty cool
edgy widget
im busy theorycrafting fellowship builds
coarse nest
What’s this wizardry you speak of!?
mossy fox
i'm busy trying to find raid boss guides that don't make me fall asleep
coarse nest
Fellowship sounds cool
modest condor
i'm having fun so far but that is the honeymoon phase ofcourse
glass kelp
I'm rerolling to Fury in S2, used to main monk. fingers crossed
wide blaze
outside of some of the more hardcore trials, I don't think I've ever seen a guil...
in my experience if you aren't at the bottom of the meters and you don't die a bunch nobody pays attention to what you're doing
modest condor
we'll see if it's still fun after a couple of weeks/months
dense elbow
i'm busy trying to find raid boss guides that don't make me fall asleep
Critcake got some great videos for that on his channel. You should look them up
restive peak
i'm busy trying to find raid boss guides that don't make me fall asleep
Fuck bro lmk if you do
coarse nest
we'll see if it's still fun after a couple of weeks/months
Is it a new game I assume?
edgy widget
No one noticed when I stopped playing slayer in raids.
people love to aggrandize hypotheticals, like yeah it's possible some guild out there is hawking your every talent choice and rotation, but it's extremely unlikely
likewise, it's possible you wipe at 0.5% and if you were playing a different spec you might have secured the kill on that particular pull, but it's also far more likely that if 6 people hadn't died 1m into the fight you also would have killed it
modest condor
it's currently in playtest so not even released yet
restive peak
Yeah if that game fucks and is solid in 3 months, I'll try it
edgy widget
and frankly if I ever found myself in a guild that tried to micromanage what I was doing, when it's not causing a very obvious problem, I would leave and find a new guild, because they are absolutely in the minority
wide blaze
true
mossy fox
Fuck bro lmk if you do
this Andrew T channel looks good for explaining strats and stuff but I literally zone out in 10 secs
modest condor
Yeah if that game fucks and is solid in 3 months, I'll try it
i think there's gonna be a real issue with low keys being deserted after a while
wide blaze
if you are doing good damage and not dying and your guild is flaming you for talents there is something else going on lol
coarse nest
Am I part of the problem if I found the Aug Evoker in logs only targeting the boss and giga buffing treants and shit with prescience
edgy widget
now obviously if you're involved in the RWF or something, that's a different story, but as much as people like to think they should mimic what those people are doing, it *really doesn't apply to the other 99.9% of people in the game
restive peak
this Andrew T channel looks good for explaining strats and stuff but I literally...
Right? His videos are so information but he's so monotone man..probably phenom for the raid leader chill vibes, but holy I almost passed out
restive peak
i think there's gonna be a real issue with low keys being deserted after a while
Same, it won't have the playerbase to sustain
edgy widget
and tbh you'd be surprised how often even RWF players make mistakes or misoptimize things, either accidentally or on purpose
coarse nest
I tried using revvez heroic tindral build and it absolutely did zero damage for me because I didn’t have 10 split carry’s in my group and the roots broke instantly
restive peak
These fights are VERY rarely (ie like never) designed within a like 1% margin of error of perfection mathematically, I have literally killed prog bosses when I forgot to swap to AOE or ST
or where I decided to cook, it ended up performing worse, but my raid played better and we killed it
wide blaze
most folks have more than a talent swap's worth of damage they are missing in uptime and rotation mistakes
modest condor
I tried using revvez heroic tindral build and it absolutely did zero damage for ...
loboz build
wide blaze
including myself lul
coarse nest
wide blaze
if you're like me after almost every kill you just despair looking at all the things you could have done better
restive peak
Boss dead = happy
edgy widget
or where I decided to cook, it ended up performing worse, but my raid played bet...
for the vast majority of world 50 - 5,000 guilds, execution is far more important than optimization
wide blaze
Boss dead = happy
i agree, i just like to keep a mindset of being critical of my own performance
edgy widget
I don't think yall are thinking of the same channel
coarse nest
You can’t say “Andrew T” and not have people assume Tate
restive peak
Consequence' guild leader hahaha
edgy widget
anyway, especially for the bulk of players who are in that WR 100-500 range, killing bosses is about everyone learning the mechanics and surviving the fight - the toughest bosses rarely come down to damage checks so much and often fall over if everyone is alive by the end
restive peak
^
edgy widget
You can’t say “Andrew T” and not have people assume Tate
context is everything, we're in a wow discord talking about wow stuff lol
wide blaze
anyway, especially for the bulk of players who are in that WR 100-500 range, kil...
so true
sullen dove
i'm busy trying to find raid boss guides that don't make me fall asleep
Just read the book
coarse nest
context is everything, we're in a wow discord talking about wow stuff lol
Oh absolutely but we know how yappers are here
coarse nest
Owned!
glad coyote
lol
edgy widget
Oh absolutely but we know how yappers are here
and yet you're the first one to bring it up!
wide blaze
letters looking icy
restive peak
I'll be driving and thinking of you (jk servers will not be up til 10pm)
coarse nest
and yet you're the first one to bring it up!
Indeed a yapper it seems
edgy widget
I'll be driving and thinking of you (jk servers will not be up til 10pm)
I hope maint gets extended
I hate raiding on a big patch day
restive peak
We are luckily saying fuckit
I don't raid regardless big W
Just a short meeting to discuss bosses for next week
edgy widget
lucky 
restive peak
I'll think of you while driving always booboo ❤️
fallen flare
Hi, are there any sheets right now with Sims % for Tier and trinkets?
coarse nest
restive peak
Everyone will be in 4pce by week 2 if your guild clears
fading sky
Y
Though i would be bettrt if tier was strong
And our initial power lower
Less chance of nerfs
acoustic seal
Sorry I hadn't heard of the wow andrew t before lul. thanks for the clarification
coarse nest
@mossy fox “it won’t be missed” 
amen
mossy fox
oak garden
Wup CE 1day before the patch XD
fallen flare
Tyvm
coarse nest
Wup CE 1day before the patch XD
Grats! Better late than never
sour frigate
Wup CE 1day before the patch XD
oak garden
its the first season that the guild i joined played for Ce try
and i joined them like 3-4 weeks ago
prime charm
Is fury going to suck in m+? Asking for a friend
earnest canyon
Is fury going to suck in m+? Asking for a friend
Only if I play it
edgy oasis
Is fury going to suck in m+? Asking for a friend
Suck? No. Do you mean invited? No. Find a friendship group to push keys with or be in meta hell.
earnest canyon
The issue is if something is 3% less in DPS, misses 1 utility some other class has, or is not played by the best players in the world pushing maximum key levels for money, then the guys doing +10s dont want you
bright sable
guys how do I log target dummy
I did it before but now I completely forgot lol
I use Loggerhead
is there a command or something
pliant obsidian
wait maximum key levels for money where da money come from?lol
sour frigate
streams and sponsors ig?
pliant obsidian
ahh ok
fading sky
The issue is if something is 3% less in DPS, misses 1 utility some other class h...
Lets be honest, if the utility lack is a dispel i get it.
earnest canyon
Lets be honest, if the utility lack is a dispel i get it.
Not every class can have every utility, else why have classes....having an instant aoe stun like most (all?) melee was huge for me as a hunter as I didnt have to fiddle with a stupid delayed trap
fading sky
Ofc not but if 2 x dispels is important in a key ofc chances of inv drops
Ofc for 10s just gear early and u will get invs
If u behind the curve and not meta😅 , tank or do ya own key
austere siren
so if we are still progging Mythic Queen this week, what build do we run.
junior gale
the same build
winter shoal
You'd probably want to change class tree capstone no?
Drop twords
Shoot maybe drop odyns too
coarse nest
Grab the wowhead raid build when patch goes live and run that
winter shoal
And TT for zerkers torment
pliant obsidian
phew at least blizz kept one of our biggest dmg meter exploits alone lol spell reflect
glass kelp
ohh this is why the wowhead raid build string is not working in-game, i should wait for S2 to go live
pliant obsidian
correct
glass kelp
cool cool
glass kelp
so we playing AM for thane now?
for me i'll stick with Slayer burst for m+, feels so god damn satisfying
pliant obsidian
same
earnest canyon
phew at least blizz kept one of our biggest dmg meter exploits alone lol spell r...
what exploit
pliant obsidian
spell reflect
earnest canyon
oh
molten night
so the talent guide hyper link goes to arms from the fury cheat sheet seection, just an FYI
coarse nest
He’s referring to one of our classes bonus damage as an exploit
molten night
and the bis gear hyper link is also pointing to arms from fury side xD
glad coyote
pretty sure we are still playing RA for thane in m+ instead of am
molten night
the guide is updated to use AM instead of RA on thane. idk if its correct or not tho.
south kayak
It’s AM for m+
edgy widget
pretty sure we are still playing RA for thane in m+ instead of am
AM is better overall, but RA is only ~2-3% behind
in raid, it'll be more down to timings
pliant obsidian
yea
next ruin
is there a recap somewhere on fury vs arms for the raid ? did i miss it or should i wait a bit before the discord publishes it ? thanks
frank dawn
No one has done the raid yet, never know how fights might change from PTR
but their pure single target with 100% uptime is pretty darn close at the moment between the two specs
Arms obviously much more focused into the execute phase
pliant obsidian
that's a good question though being that if you play both specs that have different stat weights
edgy widget
the higher your gear gets, the more those stats converge, so it's not as much a problem in practice as you'd think
oblique trail
Realistically you can play either one with the other specs stats
pliant obsidian
ok
edgy widget
change a ring or neck and you're basically there
pliant obsidian
good to know
edgy widget
the only real juggle is with crafted embellishments, but they're also becoming increasingly less important as our gear gets stronger
twin glacier
when does the m+ season end and the possibility to achieve the title?
edgy widget
Realistically you can play either one with the other specs stats
but yeah, as stated you generally play one and then just swap to the other as a matter of circumstance
edgy widget
when does the m+ season end and the possibility to achieve the title?
yesterday lol
twin glacier
i am from eu, so its for us tonight then
frank dawn
You've got a few hours, god speed
edgy widget
actually I think M+ might still go through next week, I'm not entirely sure
twin glacier
i should be 50 points ahead. but i am sweating a bit
pliant obsidian
that's neat so maybe at most a missive change to a ring neck or make a spec specific crafted peice later on in the season
edgy widget
I mean you're not going to get complete 100% optimization
but you don't really need to either, especially if it's a spec you're playing for one fight a raid or whatever
hell most people don't bother to swap period, they just play the same spec everywhere
twin glacier
is there anyway to know if next week will be included?
edgy widget
yeah time travel
pliant obsidian
gotcha
keen sequoia
game is back?
coarse nest
“Time travel”
twin glacier
how was it in the past? was the post season week included?
frank dawn
I'm nearly certain this week marks the end of the season for titles and such
but not 100% certain
silver shell
would be kinda fucked to massively swap around class balance and let 1 more week go on
frank dawn
good point
coarse nest
Usually new patch means seasonal achievements are gone
silver shell
there's no good reason to let those achievements have this week included
twin glacier
ye
but judging by the way blizzard was nerfing warriors this season early one cuz of the first (meaningless) heroic week
i wouldnt be surpised if they pull another fun move
pliant obsidian
yea that was kinda aweful lol
frank dawn
fury damage still looks really strong, and our tier set is dog shit (just like season 1)
coarse nest
Don’t worry they’ll see warrior doing .1% more dps than anybody else and cut our damage in half
frank dawn
I have prepared myself for blizzard continued stupidity in this regard
pliant obsidian
on a side note is there anything we can do to stop like raging blow bloodthirst from lighting up on our action bars?
next ruin
hiding action bars
pliant obsidian
it wouldnt be so bad but they light up even though the cd isnt up to use them
fast zealot
is it worth macroing Ravager with Reck and Avatar?
oak rain
idk if its right but i have Thunderous Roar macrod with Reck and Avatar
pliant obsidian
just reck and avatar and racial maybe and trinket
not the transmitter though lol
oak rain
Fury doesnt look thaat weaker than Arms based on that spreadsheet
pliant obsidian
i dont have rck macroed with avatar at all
oak rain
still going to play Fury
pliant obsidian
same arms to me is just way to slow always waiting on something to get off cd etc
winter shoal
is it worth macroing Ravager with Reck and Avatar?
Could be, but you probably also want a separate bind for ava (bc it'll desync from reck/rav with AM) and for reck as well if you want to reck->charge on opener but I think Archi said that doesn't matter anymore
Personally I have reck+ava+rav on one bind, plus separate binds for only reck and roar
And I track all their cds separately
pliant obsidian
why reck roar though want to be enraged before popping roar
winter shoal
Sorry unclear
I have one bind for only reck
One for only roar
One for reck+rav+ava
pliant obsidian
oh ok
queen linden
My body isn't ready for the nerf blizzard is cooking to drop tonight and send us back to the bottom
bright sable
what talent build should I do for zekvir
I keep dying to enfeebling spittle
brann is useless as always and dispells me maybe once per fight
queen linden
You charge to remove it
dense elbow
I just went in with my AM slayer build and shrekt it
queen linden
Run out as he's casting it, then when it hits you, charge in.
bright sable
ah im using my M+ MT build maybe thats why
bright sable
Run out as he's casting it, then when it hits you, charge in.
wait charge removes it somehow?
dense elbow
Slayer Charge removes roots
winter shoal
wait charge removes it somehow?
Slayer hero talent
queen linden
It's technically a root
winter shoal
It's basically the same
queen linden
Same rotation, replace clap with execute. GG
static rock
damn guess I have to learn slayer then
If all you want is to kill him, there's some build video that makes it stupid ez
it is a slayer build though
lofty forge
will crests etc be removed tomorrow due to patch?
pliant obsidian
yes
static rock
will crests etc be removed tomorrow due to patch?
wait, tomorrow?
lofty forge
or when is the patch
dense elbow
yep, pre-season is tomorrow for EU boyos
queen linden
will crests etc be removed tomorrow due to patch?
Yes
pliant obsidian
now
dense elbow
then season starts in another week
lofty forge
what
static rock
yep, pre-season is tomorrow for EU boyos
oh
lofty forge
whats happening
dense elbow
Tomorrow, if you are EU, the content patch releases with quests, tuning and so on - the new zone
static rock
US servers will be today, right?
dense elbow
in another week you get to do m+ and so on
pliant obsidian
yes today
dense elbow
Today if you are NA, yarp
static rock
Are fury changes going live today or when S2 starts?
median kestrel
in raid where a fight isnt full ST, what do i replace to get the other 2 aoe nodes
ashen juggernaut and what else?
dense elbow
massacre
dense elbow
You NA, ya?
median kestrel
ye
dense elbow
I would presume you move UF, talent under AM
Looks kinda weird with the new slayer build locking in SD, just seems weird at a glanse after so long
static rock
Are delves going to be updated with ilvls today or in a week?
dense elbow
I dont know, but I presume they are out, but with S1 loot table and lockout for vault
median kestrel
yeah we need SD now so i was looking at talent trees and i dont see how we get meat cleaver now in raid aoe
dense elbow
I kinda expect that UF is better than 1 talent in DE (the talent node to the left of BS), but DE is just a feels good to have talent
ember salmon
are we arms or fury for this raid tier
spiral ridge
winter shoal
are we arms or fury for this raid tier
Up to you, in a vacuum arms is like 1.5% better in pure single target
median kestrel
2 big swords go brrrrrrrr
dense elbow
Whatever you feel like, Nutos. They really close. But arms is favored
winter shoal
Probably gonna be the case that one is better on some fights and the other is better on others
As always
ember salmon
🫡
dense elbow
Probs, if arms dont win on the exe phase bosses, there is no Elune
clever path
any advise for aoe talent tree at slayer?
dense elbow
Only take OF if you want to use the button for fun. That basically it.
You wondering about something in particular?
clever path
onslaught buff isn't enough to take it yet?
dense elbow
Far from it, it is only decent for SS stacking in PvP
clever path
thx for the advise 😄
gusty cloak
how we feeling about fury in s2?
median kestrel
brrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
dense elbow
We feelin' good (but OF and BS burrr is missed)
gusty cloak
im debating between my fury war or bm huntard
dense elbow
BM is kinda fun, at least was on the PTR, also MM
I would just do both, if I were you
Quite interchangable
gusty cloak
yeah for sure
median kestrel
but is it really missed now that we get AM
pliant obsidian
gonna try feral again lol
dense elbow
As I played AM in S1, yeah, still missed
median kestrel
oh you a freak
dense elbow
BS gone from 15% overall to 10% on PTR
pliant obsidian
yea i know
gusty cloak
still rocking mountain thane?
dense elbow
For M+, it will likely be the go to for most ya
chilly fractal
Just run no Hero Talents
dense elbow
big brain
chilly fractal
Level a new warrior don’t put talents in… it’s a trap
dense elbow
Get rank1 parses in raid and m+, cause total community breakdown
pliant obsidian
skipping keys just raid and delves lol
iron portal
livid vigil
are we back to RB spam outside of execute?
covert coyote
I throw in a cheeky BT every once in a while just for fun
edgy widget
are we back to RB spam outside of execute?
wym outside of Execute? 
obsidian yarrow
execute is still bad outside of mark
edgy widget
it's not entirely RB spam, but you are mostly prioritizing RB unless you have an amount of buff stacks for BT
livid vigil
wym outside of Execute? <:dracthyr_crylaugh:1002363125280030781>
outside of VC window
livid vigil
it's not entirely RB spam, but you are mostly prioritizing RB unless you have an...
so back to the BT crit calculator WA?
dense elbow
SS is hard to beat
south kayak
yeah and yet they buffed RB more than BT
clear axle
Thane still the juice for m+? been away for a min
edgy widget
so back to the BT crit calculator WA?
you can just go off of X stacks of Bloodcraze
south kayak
RB and BT should be equal in terms of priority
dense elbow
Ya, Thane the juice of popular choice
edgy widget
it's not even the direct dam, it's mostly Slaughtering Strikes (and maybe a bit Bloodcraze)
south kayak
annoying me to no end
edgy widget
BT actually kinda fucks now
south kayak
Yeah even though it fucks, you prefer to press RB lol
median kestrel
so what buffs we tracking for BT
livid vigil
is BT>RB under 35%?
south kayak
maybe it is for Thane, idk
edgy widget
Yeah even though it fucks, you prefer to press RB lol
yes but again, not because of the direct damage so much as because of the buffs
south kayak
yes but again, not because of the direct damage so much as because of the buffs
Do you at least prioritize BT under 35%?
south kayak
when is frenzied enraged coming back
it's there, just pick it
slender crescent
Hey @edgy widget will the updated guide annoucement be in here or Updates-war-within, and will you also pin. I am working a lot lately and cant keep up with as much as i used to
mossy fox
frenzied enrage?
edgy widget
Hey <@61282228017041408> will the updated guide annoucement be in here or Updat...
there'll be a post in #updates-midnight soon™️
mossy fox
it's not much weaker
dense elbow
Doubt it matters much, Novix and some others use frenzied.
mossy fox
it's just very slightly weaker
oak rain
oh I must have misheard
south kayak
critcake spreading misinformation on stream
slender crescent
there'll be a post in <#1234949058121171069> soon™️
thanks dude
dense elbow
Crit did say something in the tone of "powerful more powerful", so makes sense you sit with that impression
oak rain
hahaha
dense elbow
Just beware, that in here we will call things dead or gone, if it is a 1% diff.
south kayak
^
oak rain
i mean if its any less than the other then it is dead no?
dense elbow
Fr fr
south kayak
lmfao
dense elbow
I am just not gonna sim this coming tier tho, I dont want to know the DPS loss I am gonna suffer
oak rain
yea, look away
dense elbow
OF still strong if I got no data to prove that wrong
south kayak
thank you
whole yacht
Didn't destro match affi in siege?
south kayak
Didn't destro match affi in siege?
Destro is only better in pure single target
and even then, aff still can win
ionic dawn
just so that i understand. we are getting the 3 dinar items right? or was that changed?
summer quail
just so that i understand. we are getting the 3 dinar items right? or was that c...
2 but yeah
we are still getting them
ionic dawn
ahh its 2 gotcha
ionic dawn
2 is better than waiting for another fated season lol T_T
candid falcon
they just haven't announced the new source
south kayak
Oh okay
summer quail
no one knows, i bet they will just come out in 11.1.5
south kayak
Mutou, are you interested in MoP
summer quail
Mutou, are you interested in MoP
ofcourse, extremely excited. was the expansion i started playing in, was big noober for the first 2 expansions
orchid iron
what is the "break point" for going slayer over thane in m+ is it like slayer for farm thane for push kinda thing?
south kayak
ofcourse, extremely excited. was the expansion i started playing in, was big noo...
Nice, what did u play? warrior?
summer quail
i used to think lfr was the only difficulty in mop
south kayak
also, did you see my MoP tierlist
summer quail
yes. very accurate tierlist
candid falcon
https://tenor.com/view/bruh-moment-fall-funny-gif-14683854
That's what Dinar were for, though, is getting the last pieces of gear as bad luck protection
ionic dawn
MoP fury warr man. the last expac that heroic strike was still a thing T_T
candid falcon
ngl Legion fury was fun
summer quail
Nice, what did u play? warrior?
i played so much different shit, i tried getting into WoW before that. but couldn't stand leveling, well mists brought along boosts. so i bought a boost for almost every character hahah
south kayak
i played so much different shit, i tried getting into WoW before that. but could...
damn lol
that's a lot of money
summer quail
yeee, had nothing else to spend my money on at the time. did not boost a mage, warrior,druid or monk at the time. just ran around timeless isle testing stuff
bright sable
Anyone know why LittleWigs is not showing me the option for Zekvirs self heal ability
I can edit everything else but not that
south kayak
yeee, had nothing else to spend my money on at the time. did not boost a mage, w...
I rememember when I first started playing in Legion, I was just doing casual stuff like transmog runs and mount farms lol
with the speed boots anda speed set
summer quail
exactly, when just starting everything is just really fun. this time i want to experience mop raids and everything, with actually knowing how to play
summer quail
those are the 2 classes i have prepared for MoP as well
south kayak
I am actually leveling a troll warlock rn
because it's just way better than my belf
20% haste snapshot
from berserking
summer quail
ye true, iirc my lock is orc. which is still good, just not as good
south kayak
its different here in mop because aff could snapshot the haste buff for the entire fight
on dots
so it's not really a 3min cd
10 sec duration
it's way more
summer quail
i mean not the entire fight, but yea the duration is more
south kayak
depends on the fight but yes it is actually possible
south kayak
i mean not the entire fight, but yea the duration is more
this is fallen protector, 3 council boss fight wit hsome adds coming in and out
compare this to a single target fight where max dps is 750k
there's actually a video of an aff lock naked with a trinket and weapon
outdpsing everyone
summer quail
ye i've seen the fight before. would need to die pretty fast for troll racial to be active on dots from the start
summer quail
there's actually a video of an aff lock naked with a trinket and weapon
sparkuggz was the warlock goat
revvez of the warlocks
south kayak
ye i've seen the fight before. would need to die pretty fast for troll racial to...
One word: soulswap
summer quail
oh yea tru
south kayak
soulswap takes all the buffs and shit u had at start
and keeps them going on and on
That's why they made dots dynamic in WoD
I wonder if they're gonna make changes in MOP
summer quail
understandably so. snapshots are gigabroken xD
south kayak
there were plenty of snapshot uses before
in cata, warlocks have a full on mastery gear they change before the fight begins after they press metamorphosis
because it keeps all these stats
summer quail
there were plenty of snapshot uses before
ofcourse
south kayak
there's a tierset in firelands that increases your damage by 10% after u use BShout or commanding shout
you can shout with it on then switch immedaitely to get 10% more dps
dapper goblet
madox for yellow
slim coral
Why’d you wait so long tho
copper lily
I quit this game after curve
slim coral
I mean that’s not blizzards fault tho
copper lily
Haha
slim coral
Sucks tho for sure