5%
#fury
merry night
earnest canyon
yeah
merry night
this about to be my 13th reason real soon
sullen dove
(already top 5)
restive peak
We definitely didn’t need buffs
sullen dove
(still top 5)
merry night
swear
restive peak
Fire mage and Destro lock avoiding nerfs are actually the only puzzling part to me
earnest canyon
the problem with a blanket nerf is that abilities you dont want to press/didnt get buffed, also get nerfed
merry night
blizzard loves railing lines of glue then deciding what to do next apparently
earnest canyon
id rather precise nerfs and buffs
sullen dove
yea so absolutely nothing changed between what was gonna release and what is gonna release now
earnest canyon
the gameplay ?
opal zenith
Are we panicking??? Ded?
earnest canyon
i mean its a blanket nerf
golden kiln
rip onlyfans
young swan
Are we panicking??? Ded?
no
restive peak
Maybe we’re gonna see some buffs to our dead capstones, who knows
merry night
was gonna be the same gameplay
so basically BT RB RB RBRBRBRBBRB ramp
golden kiln
fury is gonna be mid af in m+ but in raid we're still going to be solid
restive peak
We are forever mid in M+
golden kiln
our damage made up for lack of util in SL/DF but
now we're seeing the worst of both worlds lol
storm rune
golden kiln
I mean, fury was legit in some of the highest IO grps/keys
sullen dove
not exactly a statement you can just broadly describe for a whole exp
golden kiln
we were a solid 3rd DPS pick
sullen dove
i think just the like 2 or 3 people that played warr in pinnacle keys just had a good comp around them and played alot
dont think it was like widespread insane meta or anything
golden kiln
most specs aren't and can't be meta in a given season
but the state fury was in was acceptable enough to give it a pass previously
now we're just super mid lol
(TWW s1 included)
sudden tusk
the other issue with warrior is they do not play well with aug which i dont see many people considering
sullen dove
wasnt noxivs group just like 2 rogues
golden kiln
That might not be an issue in the future tho with how much blizz want to gut aug
golden kiln
deserved
sudden tusk
but i think warrior was always viable especially with a dk in the group
basically you ran 2 tanky dps and shaman if you wanted to be meta
but the actual issue is community perception, and a bit of balancing.
shaman being so overpowered was okay becuase it wasnt as survivable as like warrior or DK, but aug + Ppal lets it just live anything
pulsar quest
that and aug was so big the last few seasons and we dont pair well with aug comparitvely
sudden tusk
i capped out at 3350 this season just becuase i couldnt get invited to anything in terms of pugs
pulsar quest
now that should change some
i stopped at 3100 because i couldnt get any more invites
restive peak
I mean again, I get title every season and so does Crit
small anvil
pulsar quest
i think my season stats are like 985 applications and 52 invited
golden kiln
Most dps that aren't the literal best 3 usually need to do a bit extra to get past that usual hardstuck point
restive peak
Crit and I have had conversations about how if we’re ever in a group and not 3rd on the chart, the DPS below us needs to be replaced
golden kiln
whether it's pugging your own key, or building a bnet friend list
sudden tusk
those that succle upon the equinox teet do receive some compenasion monster spit upon their mouths
young swan
as long as pulls are big and we're capped at 5 it wont happen
golden kiln
or joining a guild
pulsar quest
if you dont get an early headstart in io i dont see a warrior usually getting into keys in pugs
sudden tusk
(i say this as a joke)
young swan
unless if we're so ridiculously overtuned that our 5 target damage is enough to make up for the fact its only 5
acoustic seal
restive peak
Yeah equinox and I have never timed a title level key together actually 😛
I always run w my off meta homies, but it’s noticeably harder for us
clever path
😔
golden kiln
unless if we're so ridiculously overtuned that our 5 target damage is enough to ...
or unless all of our damage is done from CDs 
sudden tusk
restive peak
We cap at the title range, while the meta specs bypass it by 2-3 key levels
sudden tusk
how much did you even play with him then
pulsar quest
I couldnt even get my guildies to run keys most of the time because they wanted a random pug enhance so meh
young swan
or unless all of our damage is done from CDs <:clueless:1099922541923024997>
before they nuked unhinged cleaving this couldve been us this season
restive peak
He’s one of my homies
pulsar quest
we would do a 13 and time it fine and i would say lets do the 14 and they would say "no way we need an actual comp for that"
sudden tusk
tbh the only reason i didnt get title is i stopped playing for like 6 weeks outside of raid
restive peak
But he has his wifey and buddies
pulsar quest
tbh the only reason i didnt get title is i stopped playing for like 6 weeks outs...
this
sudden tusk
and now that i came back to play last like 3 weeks my IO is to far behind for anything
pulsar quest
i also raided 4-5 days a week until mid january so
restive peak
Coming back after the 13 week break made this past 2 weeks a bit stressful. But it really is just who you know
pulsar quest
my new guild only raids 2 days so i will have more time to push this season
restive peak
Like if I had to pug it completely…no shot
sudden tusk
and all the desperate meta specs at barely 3400 wont invite anything
earnest canyon
i also raided 4-5 days a week until mid january so
jesus christ you are a mentalist lol
restive peak
But really, we will NEVER be meta unless we’re completely reworked
golden kiln
before they nuked unhinged cleaving this couldve been us this season
I have bad memory, but I swear we were hitting like 10 mil aoe burst before s1 even started
restive peak
Yeah no, pugging as warr is always rough but this season? No shot
young swan
I have bad memory, but I swear we were hitting like 10 mil aoe burst before s1 e...
yeah that sounds right
restive peak
We are legit 30+% behind the meta specs
pulsar quest
I pugged all the way to 3100 and stopped
clever path
I have bad memory, but I swear we were hitting like 10 mil aoe burst before s1 e...
i aint sure about 10m but we were defo topping charts easily
young swan
unhinged cleaving was really gross
clever path
aside from maybe Enhancemtn later on
young swan
and then it got shot in the head
slim coral
atleast aug is finally dead now
restive peak
Enh is insanely busted currently
slim coral
offically
golden kiln
i aint sure about 10m but we were defo topping charts easily
it was atleast like 8mil from my memory of the heroics I did
clever path
Enh is insanely busted currently
i wish i had the brain pwoer to learn that Spec outside of the mere basics
restive peak
Enh is insanely basic once you play it
pulsar quest
i saw a tiktok that triggered me
golden kiln
Enh is insanely basic once you play it
this
restive peak
It’s overwhelming to look at the spell book
young swan
just play ele, just as much damage but braindead
restive peak
But then you realize it’s like 5 buttons
golden kiln
enhance is really just a 2 button spec, with 8 buttons being equally as dogshit fillers
clever path
Enh is insanely basic once you play it
i tried to learn it, i got the basics down but the volatile procs and having to just remember maelstrom stacks put me off it (my PC can't run addons that help track that)
sudden tusk
tempest pooling is just dogshit gameplay
golden kiln
tempest pooling is just dogshit gameplay
you say this until you pull 30 mil on NW first pull
pulsar quest
the guy was testing PTR specs, and he showed ret pally spamming divine storm literally over and over and doing 15m dps, hes like ITS SO FUN, next video hes playing fury and mashing all CDs and topping around 7-8m for a few seconds
high echo
tempest pooling is just dogshit gameplay
++++
pulsar quest
xd
clever path
nvm Tempest stacks not Maelstrom
sudden tusk
yeah in the pug that does a 15 second pull timer and doesnt let me 2x tempest stack in a 15 becuase they have no fucking idea how the spec works
high echo
That shit where you can stack outside of instance..terrible.
sudden tusk
so they plug the key with 0 tempest stacks while im trying to crit a chain lightning to proc my third crit to get my first tempest
clever path
literally all ik about Enh is how to prep my opener regardless of Maelstrom or Tempest and thats literally it
i should go back and retry it
Enh felt awfully similar to Windwalker last time i tried them, although a very very vague feeling
golden kiln
wait until you try a bis enhance shammy in raid with a PI and a couple sundering resets in opener
clever path
with how you pop Cd's
golden kiln
you'll be left wondering why you even bothered with war
golden kiln
war rotation = battle shouting on CD if boss isnt in range
clever path
non stop screaming and being too angry to die
opal zenith
Is there a single class that has ever had as many buffs and nerfs as we have in a 6 month period?
clever path
hasn't Feral been forgotten about?
opal zenith
Feel like I'm on a roller coaster
clever path
not related
primal python
Is there a single class that has ever had as many buffs and nerfs as we have in ...
mage gets an essay every tuning cycle so yes
golden kiln
% wise we might be up there for most buffed/nerfed, but I think there's other classes that get more frequent tuning
clever path
i think MM hunter has had quite the rollercoaster this expansion
high echo
Is there a single class that has ever had as many buffs and nerfs as we have in ...
Shamans and hunters but it's been non stop buffs and a few nerfs
crude ridge
golden kiln
as fun as it is to hate shammies, they've been brought in line quite well compared to where they were this season
there will be new classes to hate on tuning wise
almost BM hunter pre 8% nerf today lol
pulsar quest
Everything I’ve seen from ptr key testing has enhance shamans still above and beyond everything else
The last few weeks
golden kiln
na definitely not
enhance is very strong still
but other specs will have enhance beat
mainly mages/locks/hunters
the usual suspects amirite
crude ridge
as fun as it is to hate shammies, they've been brought in line quite well compar...
Enhancement shams are not even remotely close to brought in line this season.
golden kiln
anything that isn't an outlier is brought in line
bright sable
damn, I'm really missing out by not going Slayer, eh?
golden kiln
for ST yes
crude ridge
Or are you talking S2?
crude ridge
Oh ok I was about to say
golden kiln
we're like a week away from s2 tuning going live
and new raid a week after
s1 is old news
bright sable
dw everything will be nerfed into the ground by raid start
except augvoker which will be number 1 again
golden kiln
depends on what colour your class is
golden kiln
except augvoker which will be number 1 again
bro blizz kind of want aug to die rn
if you've seen some of the patch notes lately
crude ridge
We will smoke heroic and get nerfed 4 more times. I've already put it on my parlay.
bright sable
they will surprise drop the tinker class on raid launch which will be doing 5m more dps than any other class
they will have healer/tank/dps/support specs
new meta is 5 tinkers
for mythic
14 tinkers for raid
ezpz
acoustic yoke
bro blizz kind of want aug to die rn
they want dev to crank alternatively though
golden kiln
dev is kinda ass tho tbf
high echo
dev is kinda ass tho tbf
Yeah this seems to be the consensus
summer crater
Of course they nerf warrior last second while enhancement stays king
acoustic yoke
fire mage escaping blame
dusty aspen
Is warrior over
high echo
Is warrior over
No
red berry
damn... they cancelled warrior
golden kiln
fire mage escaping blame
fire or frost being m+ meta is just apart of wow man there's no use fighting it
high echo
Fell on my knees in my kitchen
red berry
damn just saw the patch notes... 5%? clutching my hand to my chest. don't @ me for awhile. i'm going on private
acoustic yoke
take the week off
acoustic yoke
fire or frost being m+ meta is just apart of wow man there's no use fighting it
there must always be 1
acoustic yoke
my money is on magic tier again
acoustic yoke
Explain this then
checks out
high echo
Explain this then
clever path
mage try not to have a flavour of the month spec every single expansion
golden kiln
mage is the new lock but mage was already lock so mage is just the new lock x2
acoustic yoke
well yeah it's not joever
dusty aspen
We still hitting hard regardless
Blizzard put it in the notes right there dude.
clever path
We still hitting hard regardless
still gonna be an unstoppable onslaught in pvp so 🤷♂️
earnest canyon
as long as fury still flows like it does and is viable for casuals its not over for me
red berry
guys we do 5% less dmg now its all over I must delete my warrior now and reroll ret
coarse nest
Oh no instead of 3.1m we’re doing 2.94m 😱
earnest canyon
idk about the mythic++++++ pushers
torpid elbow
I would take a 3% nerf over a 5% nerf though
dusty aspen
They're nerfing us to push us into the secret 4th spec: Gladiator. If it can happen to scalies it can happen to us
acoustic yoke
I would take a 3% nerf over a 5% nerf though
the ideal scenario was targeted nerfs and not an aura one
static rock
taking into account the buffs we got recently, is this still a net loss?
torpid elbow
taking into account the buffs we got recently, is this still a net loss?
I was about to say the same thing is this really a loss when we got a a lot of buffs incoming also ? For both specs
high echo
taking into account the buffs we got recently, is this still a net loss?
No, big gains still
coarse nest
They essentially brought our overall damage down by 5% (lazily)
Targeted buffs/nerfs need to happen
acoustic yoke
odyns fury catching strays
static rock
Like, still sadge we got hit with a nerf, but I'd rather have it now rather than getting nerfed so god-damn much when the season has already started
acoustic yoke
ik
coarse nest
Like hello
torpid elbow
They essentially brought our overall damage down by 5% (lazily)
The next week will be something else not sure why they targeted warriors with the -5% nerf and not just nerf a skill maybe
acoustic yoke
the collateral dmg goes hard
acoustic yoke
The next week will be something else not sure why they targeted warriors with th...
well it's not the worst thing if they decided to buff what was caught in the crossfire
static rock
The next week will be something else not sure why they targeted warriors with th...
I think the devs just don't know how to tune warrior anymore, they either leave us out to dry and we fend for ourselves, or they overbuff us and then smite us down to the bottom of meters
acoustic yoke
but reality is often wishful thinking
clever path
The next week will be something else not sure why they targeted warriors with th...
i think they're testing the waters before fucking around with our abilities again
acoustic yoke
it's better this way than the s1 way
torpid elbow
Warrior is still going to be competitive damage
That’s what I like to here it’s just a -5% when fury and arms feels good rn too just doesn’t make sense
summer crater
Like, still sadge we got hit with a nerf, but I'd rather have it now rather than...
Don't worry there will be more, as per usual
acoustic yoke
That’s what I like to here it’s just a -5% when fury and arms feels good rn too ...
emphasis on good
static rock
Don't worry there will be more, as per usual
No!
coarse nest
Everyone should fully expect Warrior to get nerfed more
Blizzard always makes the wizards happy this isn’t a new thing
earnest canyon
Everyone should fully expect Warrior to get nerfed more
why?
torpid elbow
Everyone should fully expect Warrior to get nerfed more
I mean not just is other classes too?
acoustic yoke
the dream is always upper bound
topaz isle
Do we have our S2 BiS yet?
clever path
my dream is to 1v3 in pvp and it seems like we can still do that
summer crater
never be top dmg
Except if you're a mage or for tww a shaman
static rock
The dream range is B+ to A tier, never S-tier
torpid elbow
So what re roll too pally and call it a day 🤣
acoustic yoke
Except if you're a mage or for tww a shaman
anime protags
coarse nest
Never re roll
acoustic yoke
what can i say?
clever path
reroll to ret pally and fall asleep
coarse nest
Play warrior because it owns
clever path
dont forget to name your pally to something themed around light
earnest canyon
So what re roll too pally and call it a day 🤣
not fun to play, tried that
high echo
Ret paladin is a sleeper in PvE
torpid elbow
not fun to play, tried that
Yeah seems really boring especially with A B C at least A B C is fun on warrior
high echo
Yeah seems really boring especially with A B C at least A B C is fun on warrior
Automated generator and spender zzzz
acoustic yoke
its happening again
they've hit the third tower?
clever path
i havent had fun on pally since playing holy back in wrath
restive granite
they've hit the third tower?
lol
torpid elbow
i havent had fun on pally since playing holy back in wrath
I’ve been playing warrior since 2008 often over the years and it feels great rn
opal zenith
Who also thinks that Fury is going to overperform the first week of heroic and get nerfed to the ground again?
earnest canyon
I’ve been playing warrior since 2008 often over the years and it feels great rn
ive played it on and off....and im sad I took such a long break since the last time....it is really fun yeah
young swan
but yeah we're gonna get shot cause our tier sucks
clever path
I’ve been playing warrior since 2008 often over the years and it feels great rn
ngl i first picked up Warrior in TWW but fell in love, prior to that its always been Rogue or Pally
young swan
again
clever path
Warrior has the button mashing of Rogue and the simplicity of Ret whilst still keeping all of the Rogue fun
perfect
dapper goblet
restive granite
i swear if ppl start posting and saying shit like the last time "were fine/its warranted/its going to be ok" im going to lose it
summer crater
but yeah we're gonna get shot cause our tier sucks
While BM will look absolutely trash the first week because 30% of their damage comes from tier set
languid radish
@clever path facts
torpid elbow
Warrior has the button mashing of Rogue and the simplicity of Ret whilst still k...
And I believe that’s what makes me fall in love with it more bec it has 2 of the best worlds
summer crater
i swear if ppl start posting and saying shit like the last time "were fine/its w...
They definitely will, some will even say "it was needed"
static rock
i swear if ppl start posting and saying shit like the last time "were fine/its w...
I will lose my sh*t if they nerf us the way they did last season
torpid elbow
They definitely will, some will even say "it was needed"
Anyone who says that is a ranged player rofl
clever path
And I believe that’s what makes me fall in love with it more bec it has 2 of the...
i was also slowly getting sick of min maxxing Outlaw buffs, Fury takes half of that away
summer crater
Anyone who says that is a ranged player rofl
Oh I mean warriors on this server saying it
clever path
i tried playing ranged classes, not for me unfortunately
earnest canyon
i was also slowly getting sick of min maxxing Outlaw buffs, Fury takes half of t...
I can play Fury and I love it, but I cant play outlaw....too much apm
clever path
Destruction Lock is quite fun but man, i sleep when i have to wait 3 seconds to do dmg
torpid elbow
i was also slowly getting sick of min maxxing Outlaw buffs, Fury takes half of t...
Yes I played SIN And Outlaw I totally get it
restive granite
Oh I mean warriors on this server saying it
yeah i was refering to that too
clever path
my dopamine receptors are too fried to play a caster
acoustic yoke
my dopamine receptors are fried enough to play caster
earnest canyon
my dopamine receptors are too fried to play a caster
try BM....you never cast and get 2 cool doggo friends or whatever too 😛
clever path
try BM....you never cast and get 2 cool doggo friends or whatever too 😛
i honestly might, Survivla is an option too
acoustic yoke
shame that warlock is mid atm though
restive granite
my boomer heart cant take this roller-coaster a second time
acoustic yoke
the one tier i switch to it
acoustic yoke
i honestly might, Survivla is an option too
2nd best PI target but BM propagandists would say otherwise
never trust a BM
clever path
Rexxar was always cooler than Dr Dolittle
earnest canyon
i honestly might, Survivla is an option too
I went BM when legion came out as M+ was new and casting as a mage with affixes and getting interrupted was just ass...but I havent played hunter in like 4-5months now
clever path
i'll try survival xD
earnest canyon
wildfire bomb is.....wild
acoustic yoke
wild
clever path
damn thats crazy
clever path
😂
restive granite
earnest canyon
ur all banned
earnest canyon
ur double banned
clever path
i wonder if the mythic sweats are still crying that Tier 11 delves will now drop gilded crests and better gear
acoustic yoke
9/10 sure the gear is the same but the gilded is fine
clever path
either way the gilded crests will come in clutch
acoustic yoke
it's slow paced anyway than doing keys
earnest canyon
I really enjoy delves cos I wfh 90% of the time and being able to window down but still do a bit of progress is amazing
acoustic yoke
so what do they got to complain about?
earnest canyon
I dont really care what other people do
clever path
i have barely any achievos, lot of key groups refuse to invite so delves are nice
i should prolly just start forming my own groups
acoustic yoke
i have barely any achievos, lot of key groups refuse to invite so delves are nic...
that's cause ur a warrior player silly
but delves are pretty chill tbf
but i have no need to do them unless they give rep for the new faction
covert blaze
i wonder if the mythic sweats are still crying that Tier 11 delves will now drop...
why would that be a bad thing
these mythic sweats, are they here in the room with us rn?
earnest canyon
but i have no need to do them unless they give rep for the new faction
I just do them as background content
dont need anything from them
acoustic yoke
I just do them as background content
fair
sour tundra
warrior dead again
tropic cobalt
i wonder if the mythic sweats are still crying that Tier 11 delves will now drop...
nobody likes getting geared
it's just the thing you have to do to do actual content
so yeah im happy that theres an easy source of some gilded crests, why would anyone not be
earnest canyon
Don't most people play the game just to improve their chars?
sour tundra
will mythic 0 be out next week?
tropic cobalt
i play the game to clear content and get silly costumes and horsies to ride on
earnest canyon
fair
acoustic yoke
Don't most people play the game just to improve their chars?
i play the game to RP on goldshire to earn a living
earnest canyon
i play the game to RP on goldshire to earn a living
🤣
tropic cobalt
i mean realistically a lot if not most people do just play this game to watch their ilvl go up
but that crowd isn't really the crowd that clears mythic
getting bis items is just a stepping stone to CE
earnest canyon
i mean realistically a lot if not most people do just play this game to watch th...
thats what I figured.....a lot of drama is over gear and stuff
acoustic yoke
oddly enough my guild drama is rarely about gear and stufdf
earnest canyon
I like to play a class I find fun and clear the content that I can clear.....the rest is secondary
tropic cobalt
so if anything, in my experience mythic raiders are the type who are just happy to get easy gear
acoustic yoke
9/10 it's people having relationships that go to shit
tropic cobalt
becasue they don't wanna mald in shitty keys and heroic pugs and be bored
lime perch
I like to play a class I find fun and clear the content that I can clear.....the...
this why you waryer
earnest canyon
9/10 it's people having relationships that go to shit
your entire guild is tinder?
acoustic yoke
surprising number of times tbh
earnest canyon
very weird
tropic cobalt
i can only think of a couple times that loot caused serious drama in a guild i was in and both of them happened in classic
so
earnest canyon
oh idk man....you are on your 300th wipe on a boss and 2 people are having a domestic....that doesnt sound great lmao
acoustic yoke
well it's never got that far lmao
mostly high school level drama
not criminal offences in the making
earnest canyon
oh by domestic I just meant they arent talking for whatever reason
but they have to because they are in the raid
sinful spoke
9/10 it's people having relationships that go to shit
wtf is wrong with ur guild bro
leave that shithole
clever path
Having people date on a raid team usually leads to issues. Not always but man too many times since wrath I’ve dealt with that shit
compact knot
if its just 2 raiders that are married its usually fine
but if its a gm or officer its a cooked guild 100%
summer quail
if its just 2 raiders that are married its usually fine
Have played with a couple for 8 years. Totally fine, and ofc they are only raiders
compact knot
yeah my cata guild has a married couple and both are good at the game and chill asf
my old retail guild the gm was married to the officer and it was obvious he was funneling loot
lol
clever path
Yeah anytime a couple has some sort of power they abuse it happened in my last guild during nathria, officer took a piece of loot because they “needed it really badly” and oh my god somehow their gf had the item the next raid night with no explanation it was magic
acoustic yoke
leave that shithole
i live for the content
summer quail
@smoky vale you still going lizard after that nerf?
smoky vale
i am currently being told by key group
to learn mage
im just learning every spec i can
🙂
young swan
i cant say what i want to say
acoustic yoke
⏸️
young swan
tell them to blow up tho
young swan
just play it
smoky vale
real
young swan
tell them to suck a fat one
acoustic yoke
actions speak louder than words
smoky vale
i cant really complain when they asked are you okay with rolling fotm
acoustic yoke
lock tier when warrior is peak
it do be like that sometimes
i shouldn't have offered so early
dapper goblet
4 warrior tier
winter shoal
xeos are you back to brown man for 11.1
radiant plank
Warrior is fucking broken guys shut up please. Imagine playing a class that always does insane damage.
Not the mention melee is just a super easy role in the game. Never punished, always broken trinkets. Its just not fair.
Try playing balance druid or resto druid for a change 💀 you would litterally want to find a rope within 4 minutes of gameplay.
5% nerf, just play 5% better who tf cares lmao
sullen dove
4 warrior tier
8 shaman tier
slim coral
Warrior is fucking broken guys shut up please. Imagine playing a class that alwa...
where is this copy pasta from
dapper goblet
8 shaman tier
i wish shaman was as op as warrior
sullen dove
good thing you dont have to
lapis shadow
elfin vortex
Zug zug
I have a feeling that the abilities that nefred without being buffed , they will get buff in some days
dapper goblet
good thing you dont have to
title
sullen dove
you already know my feelings about the word title being thrown around here
why are we here just to suffer
anyway march 9th coming up soon
save the date
sullen dove
marvelous question
sinful spoke
Why the 9th
bitter palm
you already know my feelings about the word title being thrown around here
Warrior is fucking broken guys shut up please. Imagine playing a class that always does insane damage.
Not the mention melee is just a super easy role in the game. Never punished, always broken trinkets. Its just not fair.
Try playing balance druid or resto druid for a change 💀 you would litterally want to find a rope within 4 minutes of gameplay.
5% nerf, just play 5% better who tf cares lmao
slim coral
why are we here just to suffer
get title noober
sullen dove
get title noober
allg with wasting my life for fictional video game points
sullen dove
Warrior is fucking broken guys shut up please. Imagine playing a class that alwa...
Warrior is fucking broken guys shut up please. Imagine playing a class that always does insane damage.
Not the mention melee is just a super easy role in the game. Never punished, always broken trinkets. Its just not fair.
Try playing balance druid or resto druid for a change 💀 you would litterally want to find a rope within 4 minutes of gameplay.
5% nerf, just play 5% better who tf cares lmao
sinful spoke
allg with wasting my life for fictional video game points
Already did it for queen bro
Canr use that excuse
Chop chop
sullen dove
yea but thats more simple
sinful spoke
Nuh uh
slim coral
allg with wasting my life for fictional video game points
are they really fictional if they get you egirls tho
sullen dove
do they
sinful spoke
Maybe if u were a tank player
sullen dove
Esp if you play monk tank
and are caveman-esque
sinful spoke
So u
sullen dove
maybe should m+ :/
sullen dove
true
dapper goblet
not a single normal person above 2796 io
sinful spoke
Dont listen to xeos he played mage at one point
bitter palm
dont listen to xeos he killed necrolord fury
sullen dove
me when necro fury is just current fury but you had a banner at your back
bitter palm
ye the banner makes it cool
sinful spoke
It aint 30% anymore
bitter palm
Can u change ur name to 25% btw
💔
sinful spoke
bitter palm
Can u change ur name to 25% btw
is this better
crimson forum
is there any sheet that show all classes simc for ptr ?
river lark
where is this copy pasta from
@eternal spoke this guy
edgy oasis
Warrior is fucking broken guys shut up please. Imagine playing a class that always does insane damage.
Not the mention melee is just a super easy role in the game. Never punished, always broken trinkets. Its just not fair.
Try playing balance druid or resto druid for a change 💀 you would litterally want to find a rope within 4 minutes of gameplay.
5% nerf, just play 5% better who tf cares lmao
heavy galleon
Are you drunk ?
bitter palm
Warrior is fucking broken guys shut up please. Imagine playing a class that always does insane damage.
Not the mention melee is just a super easy role in the game. Never punished, always broken trinkets. Its just not fair.
Try playing balance druid or resto druid for a change 💀 you would litterally want to find a rope within 4 minutes of gameplay.
5% nerf, just play 5% better who tf cares lmao
eternal sundial
Warrior is fucking broken guys shut up please. Imagine playing a class that always does insane damage.
Not the mention melee is just a super easy role in the game. Never punished, always broken trinkets. Its just not fair.
Try playing balance druid or resto druid for a change 💀 you would litterally want to find a rope within 4 minutes of gameplay.
5% nerf, just play 5% better who tf cares lmao
bitter palm
Warrior is fucking broken guys shut up please. Imagine playing a class that alwa...
hi phil
eternal sundial
yo
bitter palm
come back to wow come play colossus arms come demolish
eternal sundial
surely
eternal sundial
warm my pauck
bitter palm
😊
eternal sundial
😋
bitter palm
warm my @clever path too
eternal sundial
@bitter palmok so what if i made potato stew today
do i put in tons of bacon or salmon
idk which is better overall
jovial coral
proven hornet
gleaming siren
@warm crag @clever belfry @lost saffron @oblique trail @compact siren 
covert blaze
clever path
warm my <@456226577798135808> too
Pauck
solemn plover
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1294680138042183711/1306014550822490182/h...
whoever made that is fucked in the head
thick fossil
I'd rather Schmidi be a capybara than a honey badger.
compact siren
clever belfry
<@164800371057754112> <@173741974493462528> <@1205862386280435764> <@10246490897...
vs him
sour frigate
bleak bluff
damn
chilly plume
Yeah anytime a couple has some sort of power they abuse it happened in my last g...
During VOTI my old raid lead was married to the actual worst dps player in the guild,, we drop the whispering incarnate icon first time on mythic, and since our loot setup was fucked (pass and let LC handle it) and didn't auto pass, the wife rolled need, obviously got it, and after 30 minutes of the guild arguing she got to keep it.
bleak bluff
i did not expect fury nerfs
south kayak
I did
summer quail
i did not expect fury nerfs
i did, just not as big as the arms nerf. i expected 5%+ for arms a few percent less for fury
fading sky
During VOTI my old raid lead was married to *the actual worst dps player in the ...
I mean saying no to ya wife//gf. Not easy
summer quail
but it is what it is
bleak bluff
yeah it is what it is
midnight kite
I played PTR for like an hour a week ago and was like "yeah this likely dosent go live"
fading sky
Fury will still be great in m+ content? 5 target prio dmger
south kayak
This is a minor nerf but I’d wish they just nerfed Rampage, BT, and RB instead of an aura nerf. This nerfs the shitty cds we have even more
bleak bluff
i kinda expected for arms but darn fury
midnight kite
My only worry is we dont get panic nerfed for overperforming before other people get better tier sets then us (again)
fading sky
I hate this
Hopefully when we perform avg. They buff some of our cds
bleak bluff
This is a minor nerf but I’d wish they just nerfed Rampage, BT, and RB instead o...
i think this is more logical
they should have nerfed the actual skills indtead of aura nerf
again.. it isnwhat it is i guess
south kayak
they should buff TR, Spear, BS, OF/OS after this, though I’m not holding my breath
fading sky
they should buff TR, Spear, BS, OF/OS after this, though I’m not holding my brea...
Yup
topaz crag
How are we looking in s2?
fading sky
How are we looking in s2?
Sim very well, real life to be determined
M+ good
Raid. Dni havent seen enough bosses
shrewd sphinx
when are the wowhead / icyveins guides gonna be updated
fading sky
Define good
Better than now?
topaz crag
Sim very well, real life to be determined
nice
paper ivy
how do i copy paste addons from live to ptr?
gloomy loom
radiant power or depths is better in raid guys? always used depths but i see a lot running radiant power
covert blaze
depths
ashen pine
Good afternoon ! For 3 years I’ve been sitting in FLG for 4-5 hours searching for a key on Unholy DK. If I start playing on Fury Warr, will I also have 4-5 hours of LFG on it?
clever sun
Good afternoon ! For 3 years I’ve been sitting in FLG for 4-5 hours searching fo...
ive sat in queue for 6 hrs before
ashen pine
ive sat in queue for 6 hrs before
ahahaha means I made the right choice for Fury
covert blaze
Good afternoon ! For 3 years I’ve been sitting in FLG for 4-5 hours searching fo...
basically yeah
probably worse
thick fossil
Community perception is the worst part of the meta.
Shaman was a big reason perception was so fucked. They left it so far ahead of everyone else.
Aug was the other.
ashen pine
Aug was the other.
true
thick fossil
Clutchmates was gutted. You're better off bringing an actual dps.
It's defensives nerfed as well.
summer quail
There is no alternative for Aug. It will still play in high keys
Aug is gigadead now
ashen pine
Now main-augs will cry a lot on reddit and you will see +99% buff aug. Information 200%, take a screenshot
summer quail
I doubt it
I think blizzard knows they just killed aug. Spec has been a balance nightmare from the start
ashen pine
In Season 4, DF and the prepatch were also 100% sure of Aug's death. But they continue to play. In 5 weeks you will see them in your keys, I guarantee.
thick fossil
Aug being strong fucks up the balance of every other class. So it being dead is healthy for the game.
ashen pine
Until there is a new specialization similar to Aug/analogues, they will play
summer quail
In Season 4, DF and the prepatch were also 100% sure of Aug's death. But they co...
No, we just werent sure if it was meta then.
Very few claimed it was dead
dense elbow
Add shout warrior plz
Go back to bed
summer quail
Why isn’t there a middle ground
Coz the class is too centered on buffing others
dense elbow
Cause it is either "ok" or "not" as everything else
dense elbow
They clearly wanted to kill it
south kayak
Instead of 10%
dense elbow
I feel sorry for the casual augs, the 99% of them
fervent yoke
Banner / shout / gladiator warr with aoe intervene bubbles
dense elbow
Aug was already unpopular in low keys, now they gonna live the que simulator 3000
proven hornet
Aug was already unpopular in low keys, now they gonna live the que simulator 300...
good
dense elbow
Not good, honestly.
fervent yoke
that’s how fury felt all last season in LFD
summer quail
The problem with support specs is they are so top heavy. Balanced around the best specs and the best players. I dont think it works in WoW
next ruin
Feral might be secret op
dense elbow
They would have to make some weird counter scaling. Probably best fix would not make Aug based on "boosting performance in XY period", and be flat always. As lowkeys they wont be able to capitialise, and in high end it breakts classes.
fervent yoke
I just took advantage of time walking and got every class to 80 but I still want to make another warrior alt lol
dense elbow
Feral always been secret "op", it just aint ranged.
Played with a good feral s1? They pumped something silly
fervent yoke
Feral in my guild is like sub 500 on wow logs he cranks low key
south kayak
Good choice. Enh owns
I’m going to play my second char as warrior though
south kayak
Nuh uh
dense elbow
yuh huhhh
fading sky
Aug was already unpopular in low keys, now they gonna live the que simulator 300...
They wont
fervent yoke
I’m going to play my second char as warrior though
Yeah I’m going dps warr main dps shammy alt too, was considering ww or havoc alt but no fall back dps specs for those toons
fading sky
If aug good at top. They get invited low keys
dense elbow
Ya sure? I never seen anyone invite them low to midrange, even with huge augs signing up
ashen pine
Are there any sims to compare dps between fury/arms on ptr? Arms is how much% stronger at a given second?
dense elbow
Guess we gotta check the numbers a few months into s2 and see
south kayak
Yeah I’m going dps warr main dps shammy alt too, was considering ww or havoc alt...
I have some alts I’d like to play, havoc is one of them
fervent yoke
Aug disc fire mage seem to be a lock, then vdh/pala tank im guessing. Not sure who the last spot will go too, boomy/lock?
south kayak
Maybe hunter
ashen pine
Aug disc fire mage seem to be a lock, then vdh/pala tank im guessing. Not sure w...
enh/retri (good utility) ?
dense elbow
Are there any sims to compare dps between fury/arms on ptr? Arms is how much% st...
No, there are no sims that run continously on a second to second basis.
There are sims that have been done, being sold off access as a paid service.
Priest (SP/Disco), Druid (Resto/Boomie), VDH, Warlock and Mage
fervent yoke
warrior utility 🥲
golden kiln
Aug disc fire mage seem to be a lock, then vdh/pala tank im guessing. Not sure w...
Aug probably out of meta comps, my guess is:
VDH or Protpal/Fire/Destro/flex/MW or disc
Flex spot could go to a few specs
Like either shammy dps, bm, boomy
dense elbow
Warlocks didnt get nerfed, and they pumped
fervent yoke
damn so we are still not getting taken
dense elbow
We would only be an option in a phy comp; and that just got nerfed
BM could have been our rallying point
golden kiln
And enhance can just go stormbringer and be majority magic, letting them fit in with casters
Rogue buffs are quite good though
ivory ingot
If you taking protpal why not taking havoc dh
dense elbow
Fair, Enh might compete with Warlock
south kayak
damn so we are still not getting taken
Never expect to be meta as warrior
ivory ingot
south kayak
It’s that simple
ivory ingot
Buff fire dmg more
ivory ingot
fading sky
Warrior only meta, IF its overtuned!
golden kiln
If you taking protpal why not taking havoc dh
Depends on how havoc performs post fix, a lot of their viability banked on their funnel bug
fading sky
And then we get tumed
ivory ingot
Still a 3% boost to fire mage
fervent yoke
Do you still need a PHD to play havoc?
summer quail
Aug disc fire mage seem to be a lock, then vdh/pala tank im guessing. Not sure w...
Aug is 100% out
bitter palm
u never did
dense elbow
No, Havoc has been simplified
ivory ingot
So another dps has to be doing 3% more then havoc
fading sky
Aug is 100% out
They could buff augs own dmg
ivory ingot
For havoc to be a worse choice
bitter palm
they could rework aug
golden kiln
Still a 3% boost to fire mage
Issue is, it’s still fighting for a spot that could be a shammy buff or Druid buff, so the 3% is barely any better or simply not better in druids case
golden kiln
But this is only relevant for the very best players in the world
south kayak
they could rework aug
I think they should rework aug to majority damage and minority buff
summer quail
They could buff augs own dmg
They could. I hope they just rework it into a tank spec
fervent yoke
Aug is 100% out
A Sweeter message has never been sent than this one ❤️
ivory ingot
Just gonna be taking vdh in high keys again
dense elbow
You might find aug to be boring, doesnt mean the players who enjoy that playstyle does
fading sky
They could. I hope they just rework it into a tank spec
Aug tank buffing grp
radiant plank
trust in cleave
ivory ingot
Stack with boomie disc lock fire mage
bitter palm
Aug tank buffing grp
actually goes hard
fading sky
I think aug in raid, has a spot
bitter palm
huge cook
golden kiln
My guess is destro will be on the chopping block when raid starts up
bitter palm
unironically
fading sky
But in m+ its problematic
covert void
lul
south kayak
My guess is destro will be on the chopping block when raid starts up
Not really considering it only excels in aoe for m+
summer quail
You might find aug to be boring, doesnt mean the players who enjoy that playstyl...
I wonder how many actually enjoy it? I think alot of people play it for the free score
dense elbow
My guess is destro will be on the chopping block when raid starts up
I just hope they fix that RoF is their ST option
south kayak
And they rarely tune for that
dense elbow
I wonder how many actually enjoy it? I think alot of people play it for the free...
The 1% of them, sure, the 99% casuals and the majority just want to have a more chill backseat role as a support
golden kiln
Not really considering it only excels in aoe for m+
It was cranking in testing for raid, it’ll stick out like a sore thumb if it performs very well in both
bitter palm
@radiant plank whats the biggest cleave!!!!
thick fossil
At least exodia comp is not coming back.
radiant plank
whats the biggest cleave
20milly
south kayak
It was cranking in testing for raid, it’ll stick out like a sore thumb if it per...
Probably because of the encounters being like that
bitter palm
holy
fervent yoke
Liquids dps tier list comes out today right?
thick fossil
Though I do forsee a shadow priest comp that will be similar.
radiant plank
dense elbow
At least exodia comp is not coming back.
Wait for the rebalance patch, that is for sure to buff Aug if it underperforms. Exodia always reapear randomly
golden kiln
Probably because of the encounters being like that
Most encounters are just single target, majority of add fights are minor cleave at most unless they decide to massively buff add health
fervent yoke
Liquids running 4 warrs at least in WF and we gonna get gutted
bitter palm
but its just max asking community figures
surely this time people will look at our spreadsheet
south kayak
Most encounters are just single target, majority of add fights are minor cleave ...
There’s still tuning coming so we’ll see
thick fossil
I can see a VDH, Shadowpriest, warlock, elemental shaman team that will be kinda nuts
iron portal
God damn elemental shaman again
thick fossil
Yup
fervent yoke
Ele sham went by unscathed
thick fossil
Shaman dps barely got scratched.
fervent yoke
Not complaining it’s my alt
south kayak
I wouldn’t say that considering they did lose the trinket
summer quail
The 1% of them, sure, the 99% casuals and the majority just want to have a more ...
I think there's alot more fotm players that play it. Like a ton
south kayak
What’s it’s name again
dense elbow
Sure - perhaps, but even if it is FoTM, doesnt mean they dont enjoy it
See Retribution
south kayak
Shaman dps barely got scratched.
That is not true, enha has been getting a lot of nerfs this whole PTR
And ele is untouched but they’ll lose the trinket
iron portal
What’s it’s name again
Spymaster's Web?
bitter palm
according to some spreadsheet someone sent
iron portal
They still can rock it first weeks
bitter palm
enha and arms have same st
iron portal
bitter palm
enha 2.95 arms 2.95
thick fossil
Spymaster's was stupidly broken.
thick fossil
Remember Font of Power from palace?
Yeah, same issue
south kayak
enha 2.95 arms 2.95
Holy
thick fossil
You think they would learn from that.
iron portal
I am calling it now, they will still be rocking spymaster mythic trinket halfwaythrough the season
thick fossil
Most likely, even after it's 10% nerf
bitter palm
233 gavel oh bis for fury
south kayak
Assuming it’s not getting nerfed again
bitter palm
‼️‼️
south kayak
If they keep using it
covert void
anyone have a min-max spreadsheet for season 2? always like those little guides showing week by week.
maybe its a bit early dunno
fervent yoke
Same bro I always feel like every other wow player knows what they need to do each week and I’m like uhhhhh
zug zug?
covert void
they're usually pretty good. the raiders etc. have them.
fervent yoke
they're usually pretty good. the raiders etc. have them.
Where / how can you usually find these?
covert void
Oh I normally just get them from here like someone will pass it through at some point before the season.
Not sure if theres one for season 2 yet
thick fossil
Do m0s and delves for some gear. Raid as well. Spam m0 when it opens, then slowly progress.
Not like the list I'd gonna be that big this time.
fervent yoke
Is m0 officially dropping Tuesday?
covert void
Do m0s and delves for some gear. Raid as well. Spam m0 when it opens, then slowl...
I mean for sure, not as much as season 1 but usually some good tips and things.
fervent yoke
or have they not announced it yet
thick fossil
M+ starts week after patch.
oblique trail
anyone have a min-max spreadsheet for season 2? always like those little guides ...
Larias who usually makes these sheets aren't making them anymore
covert void
Larias who usually makes these sheets aren't making them anymore
Ahh I see. That's a shame.
oblique trail
Likely to be other people who makes one instead, but who I couldn't tell you if any
covert void
Likely to be other people who makes one instead, but who I couldn't tell you if ...
yeah all good there's a little time. It's not the end of the world or anything, my old brain likes a little structure / guide these days.
clever path
233 gavel oh bis for fury
hi
clever belfry
@oblique trail
oblique trail
@clever belfry
oblique trail
bruv
next ruin
Banezi what do you think of arms and fury state in m+? You usually have well thoughts takes
thick fossil
Worked with a few of them, they say "bruv" why too much. Lol
oblique trail
Banezi what do you think of arms and fury state in m+? You usually have well tho...
This heavily depends on what you want to hear
If you want to know about +15s and above don't ask me, I don't care about that
But both are playable without a doubt in keys
I have also just not done any PTR keys because I'm gonna live inside of keys anyway on launch, so I don't know which dungeons one is definitively better than the other in, but just like this season you should be able to play whichever one you want to no problem
next ruin
Yea the goal was going to 15 at least
dense elbow
Anything is playable at any level, question is how much it needs to be played around and/or carried
covert void
Arms is stronger atm no? thinking about it after a full fury season anyway.
obviously right that you can play either though
flat river
Go back to bed
Ok fine, how about lust + BR
dense elbow
Arms in s2 looks to be stronger DPS wise, but - fury is still Fury
ashen pine
Anything is playable at any level, question is how much it needs to be played ar...
or how much gold you have on boost to get into the key
desert cloud
or how much gold you have on boost to get into the key <:clueless:10999225419230...
or how many friends u got
dense elbow
^
thick fossil
Once I get through the initial grind, I might get back into key sales.
ashen pine
or how many friends u got
true
covert void
Arms in s2 looks to be stronger DPS wise, but - fury is still Fury
I need to actually give it a go and see if I even like it. Not even tried arms this expansion.
desert cloud
I need to actually give it a go and see if I even like it. Not even tried arms t...
i played arms and fury in s1 they both do same dmmg
dense elbow
From what I seen and tested on the PTR, Fury is a bit less dam - esp if you dont want to go Fury Thane. Still, Fury got its great prio target DPS profile for the content. My only gripe is our CDs are dead
ashen pine
Arms looks stronger, but knowing Blizzard it won't last long)))
dense elbow
we flat like fuck
desert cloud
fury does more on ST arms more in aoe but overall equal
desert cloud
From what I seen and tested on the PTR, Fury is a bit less dam - esp if you dont...
new changes look not fun
flat river
fury does more on ST arms more in aoe but overall equal
Never thought this would ever happen
ashen pine
What is the target-cap for Arms? 8+?
desert cloud
but i’ll nevrr know since i quit the game
covert void
fair, is raid more st this time around? I'm hearing
dense elbow
Not my cup of tea, but the general population loves it
Lincc and crew laud it as the best profile and gameplay
flat river
What is the target-cap for Arms? 8+?
Soft capped at 5 with cleave and WB i think
Same with WW
desert cloud
a soft cap is not a cap unlike fury
flat river
Fury is hard capped at 5
desert cloud
wasnt it 4 or main target +4
flat river
wasnt it 4 or main target +4
Main target + 4
thick fossil
What is wrong with Slav style
Nothing, just made me laugh.
desert cloud
cant wait for odyns fury to be nerfed to 2 targets next patch when fury does slightly more dmmg than aug
flat river
cant wait for odyns fury to be nerfed to 2 targets next patch when fury does sli...
Real and true
dense elbow
cant wait for odyns fury to be nerfed to 2 targets next patch when fury does sli...
OF already does less dam than RB on ST, and is far bellow VC on AoE value - so yeah
buffs prob will come tho
S3
grim prism
thick fossil
https://tenor.com/view/hmm-suspect-gif-22611582
iron portal
I am already slav enough
next ruin
Any sum up of the ptr fury builds so far?
sour frigate
https://youtu.be/K9CgSjQDAvE?si=1dIU2hKJiO1vzWVx
not slav enough without small religious portraits
🤷♀️
hardy bluff
Any sum up of the ptr fury builds so far?
just wait 3 days for guides to be updated
radiant plank
Any sum up of the ptr fury builds so far?
fickle bluff
cyrces is an uppy for arms too youre just not using it
radiant plank
<a:chatting:1266019851743399996> cyrces is an uppy for arms too youre just not u...
right there buddy
thick fossil
not slav enough without small religious portraits
steep gull
Is it worth it to talent into bitter immunity or do we just let healers deal with it?
dense elbow
Sounds like a healer issue
fast zealot
Is Mountain Thane better than Slayer in +8-10keys?
hollow elk
sour frigate
Is it worth it to talent into bitter immunity or do we just let healers deal wit...
with what
rare garnet
how is slayer v thane ST in new patch?
dense elbow
how is slayer v thane ST in new patch?
Slayer already had fallen behind, now it is worse - if you asking for M+
Raid? Prob slayer still, no idea
All ya need to know is Bladestorm value is down, so Ravager value is up. Slayer is also forced to take Sudden Death in keys atm, losing even more output than before.
It is grim, but ya can still do your weekly 10s and midrange keys
surreal ocean
With xalatarh devour
Just victory rush if you wanna be helpful
fading sky
All ya need to know is Bladestorm value is down, so Ravager value is up. Slayer ...
Pure st. Slayer is prob 
, but in keys.me thinks its 100% thane time
earnest canyon
I wish slayer had more flavor....stacking a random dot is kinda ass.
dense elbow
You are supposed to get the giga bladestorm payoff
bright sable
I wish thane was better in raids
dense elbow
Thane cant be that far behind slayer that it matters
bright sable
In S1 rn i sim 12% higher single target with slayer than MT with the same items
solar karma
Fury playing AM instead of RA in season 2? (m+ only)
bright sable
But that's just patchwerk so
dense elbow
AM is likely the play, Oldman
bright sable
Might be better in actual raids with some occasional multi target
solar karma
I like CDR better anyway. then i can mash my buttons more
dense elbow
Yep, ppl really wanted to go back to DFs2 playstyle, and that is what Thane AM is pushing
I just wish they didnt have to shoot CDs in the leg to do so, tho
next ruin
Isnt ra just better overall for consistency?
dense elbow
We talking PTR, not live
dense elbow
AM isnt that random really, but sure - it is more consistent being a set CD. While AM will fluxate more based on ragegain and procs.
In M+ I would presume AM would be consistently more damage, as it lines up things quicker and got more flex. While RA must be held more often to not be "wasted".
RA will be more consistent in raid if mechanics force you in and out of range, so on.
We shall see. But it is not comparable to live version, that is just flat dam.
next ruin
We talking PTR, not live
I'm talking ptr
dense elbow
o7
dense elbow
I would, but you are right - it is more fun
restive peak
New RA is dog I hate it
dense elbow
We can disagree on dam profile again tho
restive peak
I love the consistent dmg profile
Love watching myself start super low and slowly overtake everyone
dense elbow
I prefer bursty spikes in that, grr grr
restive peak
I know Funkypoo, it’s ok to have a wrong opinion
dense elbow
If only the wrong opinion wasnt the correct opinion for fun
summer crater
AM cranks and is more fun
Right now it's just better too
restive peak
I mean they’re right in that they’re extremely close and RA wins if there’s any notable downtime
But it’s also so close that fun matters, fight design will dictate it if no more changes happen
meager gyro
New fury capstone cook
Malicious Rampager 1.5 min CD- Mark your target to dunk on them. They take 20% increases damage for the next 15 seconds. Additionally, each time you Rampage, it triggers on all nearby enemies for 80% effectiveness.
Put this in current season please and thank you.
unreal kelp
dense elbow
Plz no, that extend mechanic going to suck for M+
But - that 20% group amp would make us meta
meager gyro
I don’t even play warrior 🧌 can’t tell if yo hate it or luv it 
dense elbow
If you want us to love it it is either:
- Makes the CD of your abilities get reduced by 1 sec per X unit
- Makes your abilites do X more damage (passive)
- You do giga dam on this giga hit, big dopamine
In general, luckilly, ppl really dont enjoy dam amps as Fury. We want the "press the button, do damage" or "make dam button come back faster"
Not, do a twirl and hurl, three spins and backflip, you now do X more dam
terse minnow
hey guys, do you thunderblast in ST please?
dense elbow
Yes, we blast in ST
terse minnow
thanks, so priority is rampage > blast > raging blow> bt more or less? and we dont clap i suppose (in st)
dense elbow
thanks, so priority is rampage > blast > raging blow> bt more or less? and we d...
https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps
This got all the answers. Just remember to mark out the talents you are using 
terse minnow
thanks mate
dense elbow
You are welcome, if anything seems unclear or confusing, feel free to ask after going through the basics
terse minnow
thank you so much so basically im wondering
do you have to be enraged prior to ravager?
is it fine to overcap rage? if i understand correctly then bloodbath/crushing blow/ blast comes before rampage if already enraged?
talent-wise i just copy pasted the n1 rio guy (so RA, rroar, ravvager=
i assume you care less about overcaping since we dont play anger management anymore apparently
dense elbow
Ye, with RA (live version) you dont care about rage that much. As you rampage to CB/BB, you dont CB/BB to Ramp. So overcaping isn't really a problem.
Rav is cast after the enrage.
terse minnow
thanks
topaz crag
slayer is still best for raiding in season 2, yea?
radiant plank
y
safe cradle
I haven’t been doing too much research on changes for fury over the last couple weeks bc I was swapping to aug for raid comp but since they’re in the dumpster hows fury looking?
oblique trail
Both Fury and Arms are looking good going into S2 from preliminary sims
The 5% nerf arguably is a slap on the wrist
Assuming no more nerfs, which could definitely still happen, we'll not be meta but in a very good spot otherwise for both raid and M+
earnest canyon
The 5% nerf arguably is a slap on the wrist
the fact its a generic "5%" for both specs just reinforces the fact that they dont really care about actual tuning, and just go "ehhhh....5 percent should do it, lets go down the pub"
oblique trail
They clearly didn't care when they buffed the rotational abilities twice for both specs
But nothing outside of that
dense elbow
Just tells us they find the gap between arms and fury to be where they want it at. Then they pushed us down based on that baseline
Them buffing rotatinals just tells me they hate fun and burst - and based on nerfs, that checks out
earnest canyon
I would have just thought it would be like 3 and 4% or 6 and 7 or something....5 just feels so generic
like some dude shrugging
dense elbow
5% is the result after 30hours of intense siming and theorcrafting from the peek warr dev team
For sure not just them at the end of a 3 hour meeting talking about all classes going "... and last on the list warrior. Thoughts?" "I am hungry, they too strong right? Slap 5% off them. Lunch!"
earnest canyon
thick fossil
For sure not just them at the end of a 3 hour meeting talking about all classes ...
Warrior dev team, lol. They prolly just asked the guy that brings them coffee and donuts.
fading sky
5% aura... and later a 10% slam buff
clever path
is arm just better for 11.1 with current gear or should i recraft now to farm keys / raid prep
summer crater
5% aura... and later a 10% slam buff
Add a 15% nerf to execute for mountain thane too because why not
dense elbow
is arm just better for 11.1 with current gear or should i recraft now to farm ke...
No need to worry about gear. You will just go for highest ilvl first either way, and by the time you are starting to get high ilvl options, the situation will be set more in stone for what is better arms/fury. Currently, for raid, arms is ahead on sims by a little bit.
clever path
well all my gear now is haste mastery and was reading u need crit for arms was just re crafting stats more or less
dense elbow
Dont worry, you will start replacing all your gear in a couple of weeks.
rancid ermine
the fact its a generic "5%" for both specs just reinforces the fact that they do...
Blizzard is a clown car when it comes to spec tuning.
clever belfry
They clearly didn't care when they buffed the rotational abilities twice for bot...
time to play OF
dense elbow
oblique trail
time to play OF
Time to play Onslaught for more slaughtering strikes stacks
molten night
clever belfry
Time to play Onslaught for more slaughtering strikes stacks
faxxx
i despise Slaughtering strikes
dense elbow
I dont mind SS, if it was applied by everything - so it was just a way to have rampage build up to more dam and have the potential to invest extra GCDs for that bigger burst window with it.
clever path
is mountain thane or slayer better for heroic nerub'ar?
or does it literlaly not matter and its just personal preference?
dense elbow
Slayer is the usual go-to
clever path
awesome, imo more fun
dense elbow
Hf
whole yacht
slayer for most of the raid, but i use MT for court
clever path
i'll try out mountain thane a little in Firelands if there happens to be a group rn
if someone is running a skip then even better
celest citrus
why thse people act like 8s are hard and being super picky
cuz 630 dps are queing to farm gilded
whole yacht
shouldnt even wipe in an 8
celest citrus
why invite 620 over 630 in any scenario
whole yacht
cuz 630 dps are queing to farm gilded
when i list no one above 618 ques
earnest canyon
why thse people act like 8s are hard and being super picky
thats been my experience since forever as I dont "push keys"....i just do whatever makes sense for gear
earnest canyon
why invite 620 over 630 in any scenario
if there is a huge gap in rio score it makes sense
but otherwise, yeah
earnest canyon
can kick and stun 1 shot abilities though
earnest canyon
healers heal.
celest citrus
invite the ungabunga 0 iq dps like ret and just explode the key, not the 620 likely fotm enh shaman that does tank dps
celest citrus
https://tenor.com/view/you-sure-about-that-david-rose-david-dan-levy-schitts-cre...
u got me
earnest canyon
Im not trying to be a smart ass, I personally hate and suck at m+....I just do like 10-12s to get max reward then I get the hell out. I hate the timer system.
I do enjoy watching other, more skilled players, push keys though
fluid pelican
Exploring Warrior builds. Haven't really played one since DF and never played Fury before>
Looking at the Icy Veins rotation for this, it mentions something called "Bloodbath" that I can't find anywhere.
Any clue what goes there?
oblique trail
You get Bloodbath and Crushing Blow after Rampaging with Reckless Abandon talented
They replace Bloodthirst and Raging Blow respectively for one use of each
pale sentinel
Does anyone have PTR builds for M+ for fury and arms? I heard Arms is outperforming atm in M+
looking to jump in and test some builds
fluid pelican
Thanks Banezi. I was hunting for it and couldn't even find it on Wowhead. 🙂
oblique trail
Does anyone have PTR builds for M+ for fury and arms? I heard Arms is outperform...
Just copy the current live builds and change a few things around, otherwise Critcake at the very least should show the talents he uses in any of his showcase videos
fluid pelican
So it's just an aura that procs?
oblique trail
Yes
fluid pelican
Confusing why it's in the action list in a rotation section. 🙂
I"ll just skip it if there's no action to take.
oblique trail
That's also exactly how you read a priority list
You read top to bottom until you can do the highest priority action
sour frigate
Can’t do 2.5M dips at low ilvl no matter your combo
Most pug can't do that in 640 gs eithet