fury

[last sparrow]

yea

[oblique trail]

So if you have forced downtime in any raid fight, unless you specifically need a certain CD timing, you're unlikely to play it

[river reef]

can melee classes now hit the bird boss in rookery?

[earnest canyon]

heroic throw

[dense elbow]

AM in M+ tho, feels great - so we happy

And yes, we can hit the bird -we could before they increased the hitbox too, you just had to jump into it over and over

[south kayak]

yeah it has a big hitbox during the beam

[river reef]

rookery looks very on-rails dungeon not much flexibility

[south kayak]

I feel like fury sim is false because of downtime

like it wouldn't really be like that using AM

[plush ice]

I kinda hate how am desyncs everything though

[golden kiln]

it's pretty good for fury tbh

[south kayak]

It doesn't really

[golden kiln]

it's either a slight avatar desync or treat them like a 45 sec window

arms is way worse

[plush ice]

I wish reck and bs always had the same cd w am

[golden kiln]

yea bs having a mind of its own in slayer is kinda how's it going

[south kayak]

if you play thane, your cds are synced for the most part

[plush ice]

I can't remember but doesn't the apl send everything on CD and doesn't line anything up

[south kayak]

sometimes they're like 4 seconds away but that's fine

[plush ice]

Oh yeah, thane is better, I was thinking slayer

[south kayak]

yeah slayer desync is a different story

because bs gets more cdr from slayer

[plush ice]

Since it feels like you should just hold bs, but I think that's technically a loss

[clever belfry]

col arms

[south kayak]

you shouldn't

[clever belfry]

just press buttons

[south kayak]

me when demolish is off cd and i don't have avatar or cs up

[earnest canyon]

is that darkflame cleft in the new M+ list? because that place is honestly like the oculus

[south kayak]

not even close lol

oculus is trash

imagine playing oculus in m+

l;ol

[earnest canyon]

no thanks

[south kayak]

cleft does have that mining cart thing but it's a lot faster than it was

and they keep making it better weekly

[earnest canyon]

so is it in the M+ list then?

for S2?

[south kayak]

yes

[earnest canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/panda-flip-desk-freak-out-mad-gif-15503485

[covert blaze]

hinrichten bad

[south kayak]

is that execute in german

[clever belfry]

yes

[unreal onyx]

Bring Verurteilen back

[sweet palm]

Strange week, no nerf announced yet.

[restive peak]

Shhh

[golden kiln]

arms is shielding us

they'll cop the first wave

then we pray there isn't a second

[whole yacht]

Stop talking about it. They are watching

[golden kiln]

👋

hi blizz

[earnest canyon]

always do what warlocks do as I said before

[wary fjord]

we arent strong enough actually

we wont be strong enough until we are the king of 5 target cleave

[restive peak]

We kinda are currently on PTR lol

We're in a very, very good place if this goes live

[earnest canyon]

No. warrior is terrible. Always in a bad place. Do no devs play warrior? Where are our buffs?

[dense elbow]

If it goes live, I cant wait to twoshot ppl in PvP

[sweet palm]

Im so used to the abuse that i fells really odd.

[dense elbow]

Dont worry, they always let some power bleed over into pre-season. So we get to feel it. Get a taste of being powerful.

... then they rip it away.

At least we will be META. HC dungeon META , but META none the less

[whole yacht]

Lol

I'm gonna get full heroic dungeon bis!

[fading sky]

I mean if fury is aa atm

Just queue with rets

Seeing we lost most of the insta burst like of and big bladestorm

It might be us that csnt do dmg before shit dies?

[restive peak]

We don't burst, we're now a very flat but high dmg profile again

Which, for me personally, is BIS

DF S2 was goated

[chilly fractal]

Ur BIS

[restive peak]

❤️ you bae

[glad coyote]

interesting you say that cause they have fury in b tier list for m+

[oblique trail]

stop looking at tier lists

[radiant plank]

ptr is filled with dogass players

they do not really represent how strong the class is

[fervent yoke]

Well fury does have target cap against it

Lower keys fury will blast though

[civic tundra]

where i can see the new builds ?

for s2

[narrow narwhal]

The builds are in your heart

[restive peak]

tier lists are for literal morons

[sour frigate]

^

[restive peak]

Like, they're part of the new world IQ test and everyone who takes them seriously loses 30 points immediately

[sour frigate]

just watched some video

"i put it to b becuz i just dont like it"

[restive peak]

One literally said "warriors are warriors, and low utility, so B"

This is the brainpower of these tier lists

[sour frigate]

XD

BALLS

[restive peak]

Also keep in mind a few of the giga pumping classes quite literally have bugs helping them

[sour frigate]

is it yodapal take?

[restive peak]

Yoda himself admits tier lists are pointless dogwater and they're just moneymakers

[fervent yoke]

yeah yoda same the same shit in his most recent video

But he runs keys with crit so I think he has a good idea of how warrior is doing

[restive peak]

The only thing holding about half of the specs out of "meta" is aug being, once again, necessary

[fervent yoke]

So sick of Aug dude

[restive peak]

Remove Aug

[fervent yoke]

Aug disc fire mage seem like a lock atm

[restive peak]

Back to fire atleast

[hushed ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/war-never-changes-war-fallout-soldier-run-gif-16498934

[covert blaze]

tier lists lmao

[remote bobcat]

Ima be real yall, im so fuckin scared for warrior in s2

we will be complete dogshit if we get nerfed even once

and the likelihood of that happening is extremely high

Sadge

[dire badge]

get nerfed

[earnest canyon]

pray for buffs

[restive edge]

Were getting nerfed once rwf is over don't worry

[golden hare]

i'll bribe the top guilds to not kill bosses so fury stays strong for longer 🫡

[restive peak]

They will almost surely all be arms anyway

[covert blaze]

[restive peak]

Def possible fury for some fights, arms for some though

Honestly, looks like a fun tier

[covert blaze]

which fights for fury in your opinion

I haven't seen much testing

[restive peak]

I didn't test at all my man, was gone for almost 4 months

Just came back 2 weeks ago lol

Just from the looks, and the general strength, I could see both being good

Arms execute is insane, so RWF arms is likely

Since fights usually ramp near the end and you want it over as fast as possible

[earnest canyon]

can u bribe me too because I do that naturally

[sly crane]

lol

[dense elbow]

Knowing what you want is important

[formal verge]

Does anyone have any update on how Archi is doing? Saw on Twitter he was in the hospital - hope he feels better!

Also not sure if this is a fury topic or a general topic - lol

[frank dawn]

is Aug still blasting even without buffing tanks/heals

the clutchmates buff did seem large

[sour frigate]

Yes nerf aug

[iron portal]

You doubt me i see

[golden hare]

I am simply fufilling the profecy...

[slim coral]

Might go fury just because it’s tankier but arms cranks in raid

[viscid tiger]

Is there any Document on what one should do in week one of the new patch?

[iron portal]

1, Have fun

[young swan]

@dusky moon is there a doc for 11.1

[dusky moon]

https://tenor.com/view/where-the-hell-am-i-where-am-i-lost-in-a-field-confused-gif-11092516

[radiant plank]

I will not be writing a guide for World of Warcraft 11.1. Thank you for showing interest! Check r/competitivewow - you can usually find good guides there around patch time!

[dusky moon]

No, I will not be making a guide

[young swan]

yeah just saw that man

[young swan]

sorry for the ping :3

[dusky moon]

I have moved on from World of Warcraft

No it's okay

[coarse nest]

Summoned him before I could

[young swan]

enjoy your freedom

[dusky moon]

Jb is just copying me

[young swan]

breaking the shackles is not an easy task

[dusky moon]

Well I only started playing each expansion because my ex-boyfriend wanted me to play with him

And now he's my ex so I don't have to play World of Warcraft

He literally got me to start playing in mists, legion, BFA, shadowlands, and DF lol

[radiant plank]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-world-of-warcraft-login-play-ironfist-gif-240592917241604487

[young swan]

sounds you have some healing to do then

see you in a couple years :)

[dusky moon]

Lmao

[coarse nest]

Tarisland gamer

[south kayak]

oof

I am sorry

[dusky moon]

I am not

[clever path]

@smoky vale

[molten night]

me after heroic leaping

[dusky moon]

Lmao

[brittle phoenix]

@smoky vale

[smoky vale]

2

[remote bobcat]

ur enraged 99% of the time but there's some unique scenarios where you really really want to be enraged so tracking it helps

[elfin vortex]

Zug zug evening!

[dire badge]

You never did

[dusky moon]

[dire badge]

Real

[lime perch]

Hey did they make warrior yet ?

[slim coral]

yes

arms and fury are both very good

[smoky vale]

grats on your trial to pc

[lime perch]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-excited-excited-monkey-monkey-noises-excited-monkey-noises-gif-23721513

[slim coral]

[remote bobcat]

warrior dps is looking really good, but we're prone to being dogshit should we get nerfed

[humble lark]

ptr going down now. does that mean we might see a build today?

[radiant plank]

ye

[undone flower]

It is Friday after all

[summer crater]

Weirdo

[dusky moon]

Good dick will make somebody do crazy things, like play World of Warcraft

[whole yacht]

Wild

[remote bobcat]

I assume good dick isnt enough to get someone to heavily invest time into world of warcraft tho

[dusky moon]

You've never had good dick then

[remote bobcat]

Indeed

[slim coral]

what a wild sentence to read in warrior discord lmao

[dire badge]

you’ve read wilder shit here be real

[dusky moon]

I've typed wilder shit in here

[slim coral]

hmm I can't recall any in recent events

I've read dumber shit for sure though

[dusky moon]

Maid is here sooo

[oblique trail]

Your own takes you mean

[slim coral]

All my takes are valid

[dire badge]

[coarse nest]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-shookt-shocked-gif-5580082

[dusky moon]

I would use external emojis but I forgot that I can't fucking use them here I PAY A LOT OF MONEY TO BE ABLE TO USE EXTERNAL EMOJIS MODERATORS

[fringe vale]

Anyone knows where you can check the ptr damage charts on bosses etc?

[dire badge]

they said they’d roll out external emojis but never did

[fringe vale]

To get an overview of how class balance is atm

[remote bobcat]

huh

[dire badge]

privilege not for us

[oblique trail]

[dire badge]

🤲

[dusky moon]

Mod abuse

[oblique trail]

I'm not a mod and thank god for that

[dusky moon]

Baby mod abuse

[remote bobcat]

EnemyMissing

sounds like a skill issue

on your end

[clever belfry]

hahn und ball

[coarse nest]

Imagine being modded

To much work

[oblique trail]

[remote bobcat]

mursugamgamdrool

[clever belfry]

real ball???

[oblique trail]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/reports?zone=42 you can find PTR logs here, otherwise you can prob find sheets in other discords

[oblique trail]

Real and true ball

[coarse nest]

Inb4 “how are we looking for season 2?”

[clever belfry]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ncU7ajvoUrehBUTq3734zjIOvpzrXZVrUosCp4eVhBI/edit#gid=1927643778

oh 10.2

whoopsies!

[coarse nest]

TEN

[oblique trail]

noob

[clever belfry]

This sheet exists as 11.1 aswell!

[oblique trail]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1E2Ln0cDEMcCSijIeJk1ZOkIyyNvdaz3RJeTfVN-oatE/edit?gid=1160989800#gid=1160989800 I found this

Which is by the same people

[coarse nest]

[fickle bluff]

real information in there

[oblique trail]

So should be reliable 👍

[clever belfry]

its one guy

Champs is robydoby

[oblique trail]

I wouldn't know

[clever belfry]

i would know

[oblique trail]

You know a lot of things

[clever belfry]

used to be an officer in a guild i was in

[oblique trail]

Sorry to hear

[clever belfry]

pisces esprots

[oblique trail]

(That you were officer)

[clever belfry]

nice missreading

nerd

[oblique trail]

sorry I'm stupid can't help it

[coarse nest]

Yellow name btw

[oblique trail]

Yellow =/= smart

[coarse nest]

[clever belfry]

yellow is below avr smart tbg

[radiant plank]

wtf is this

is this real?

fake?

how can trust this source?

[oblique trail]

Someone called Viserio linked it in my guild chat

A random ik

But it's prob reliable info

[radiant plank]

sounds suspicious

[clever belfry]

Manman the pisces esprots connection runs deep

[radiant plank]

like a visor

to hide his eyes

aka real intent

[coarse nest]

If only clicking the link didn’t share all my personal information

[clever belfry]

me when i Google something

@oblique trail are thoust grindeth toe??

or no play cause funeh fps

[oblique trail]

I have not played PoE since launch

Hate windows 11

[clever belfry]

Farmed

[coarse nest]

So real

It’s annoying!

[lost saffron]

So real

It’s annoying!

[dusky moon]

9800x3d?

[summer quail]

what does windows 11 have to do with PoE? have not tried PoE since i got windows 11(against my will)

[coarse nest]

I do yes

[oblique trail]

5600x

[dusky moon]

There's a bug with X3D processors and the latest Windows update with path of exile 1 and 2

[earnest canyon]

Did bill gates drive to your house and make you install it

[dusky moon]

You have to park certain cores or you constantly crash

[earnest canyon]

oh that sucks

[oblique trail]

I updated a few days ago and I was forced onto 24h2

[dusky moon]

Been that way since early December and nothing's been done to fix it

[summer quail]

getting a new pc did yeah

[summer quail]

ohh lmao, i guess i can't play PoE then hahahha

[earnest canyon]

I dont understand....you can install whatever OS you want

[oblique trail]

Went into Lioneye Watch and my PC completely froze up and I had to hard restart my PC

Was only fixed by turning off multithreading

👍

[dusky moon]

Try the core parking, that's what fixed it for me

[coarse nest]

If you just only play wow you don’t have to worry about windows version!
It operates like it’s 2004 still!

[summer quail]

there's only so many, i would rather have windows 10 but that is getting discontinued and i'm not tismd enough for linux

[dusky moon]

https://github.com/Kapps/PoEUncrasher/releases

[earnest canyon]

you can stay on windows 10

[coarse nest]

Take me back to 7

[dusky moon]

Hey look, we found somebody saying something dumber than what was said earlier

[earnest canyon]

not sure what you mean

[dusky moon]

I know you don't buddy It's okay

[dusky moon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/253446173774315520/1060610510803980288/skateboardge.gif

[earnest canyon]

I am not very good with computers

[dusky moon]

This is why I'm not allowed in public places

[clever belfry]

5090 owner

hope it doesnt go up in flames

[coarse nest]

Pog! I stayed with my 4090

How’s that 5090!?

[clever belfry]

hope it isnt the random cut down version

[dusky moon]

I have a fire extinguisher don't worry

[clever belfry]

its fast

Im noob i only bought a 5080

[dusky moon]

That's zotac only and it's only a few cards

[summer quail]

same. big upgrade from 2080 tho

[clever belfry]

i know, twas a joke

[dusky moon]

I had a 3090 so

[clever belfry]

5080ti early access

🤯

i retired my 1080ti

[dusky moon]

Don't mind my $700 PSU

[coarse nest]

I may jump when 6k serious comes out who knows though they probably be worth more than a car

[clever belfry]

i will stay on this card for a while again 👍

[coarse nest]

You need a gazillion wattages

[dusky moon]

Lmao

[clever belfry]

doesnt help if u got miniscule resistance diff in the connector and one cable decides it needs to pull 20A

Unlagi!!!

[coarse nest]

https://tenor.com/view/smoke-illusionist-magician-jochem-nooyen-gone-gif-17492543

[dusky moon]

Apparently There's only been two people who it's happened to and both of them were using older cables instead of new cables

[clever belfry]

ive definetly seen more than two seperate cases

And a chunk of 4090 users even checking their connectors and having malformed pins/casings

[dusky moon]

You probably haven't, there have been three confirmed cases and one of the three was due to significant user error

It just feels like there's a lot because of yapping

There's a running investigation on it in the Nvidia discord

[earnest canyon]

did you have to buy this to secure the GPU? Seems to be a lot of bundles like that at the moment

[dusky moon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/258425229402046464/1335023984923902062/image.png?ex=679ea979&is=679d57f9&hm=2b76451a8ffdf9b99707d42c4a308432427d2945adc96bb1e90183fc2703ba98&

[earnest canyon]

then the answer is "yes" lol

[fickle cedar]

enjoy the fake frames

[earnest canyon]

hopefully things return to sanity at some point

[dusky moon]

https://fakeframesarebetter.com/

[winter shoal]

"powered by AI" is my trigger word

Also Larias how do I gear in 11.1

[clever path]

this isa fucking god send for singleplayer games

[dusky moon]

No guide

[clever path]

if you can barely run Star Wars Outlaws, that'll get it going

[dusky moon]

Should've seen my 4k 4x cyberpunk frames

[winter shoal]

You expect me to think for myself??? In this economy???

[dusky moon]

Ask @coarse nest what to do

[keen sequoia]

New fury, what should I craft first

[winter shoal]

Weapon(s) probably

But like

[keen sequoia]

oka

[winter shoal]

Go to siren isle and get some 578 gear in all slots first

[clever path]

i'm not quite sure why tehres so much outrage about it, its a genuine help for machines that can't run single player games for any reason and in multiplayer games, where every real frame counts, you can't enable it

i thought the issue with AI was purely with AI art and other creative stuff but i guess that outrage has spread across the entire AI scene

[keen sequoia]

Oka mr, thanks for that advice, didnt play the whole patch jejeje

[winter shoal]

Looks like you haven't played since tbc with those legs bud

[keen sequoia]

hahaha this is an alt, i played with rogue the whole patch

i recently created this warr

[coarse nest]

Don’t worry I’ll absolutely steer you in the correct direction

[keen sequoia]

By doing quests i get this catch up gear, or what should I do?

[winter shoal]

You can buy it from the vendor using the island currency

It's called like forged iron cores or something like that

You get the currency from doing anything on the island, rares, world quests, weeklies, etc

You should do the quest line to get your cyrce's circlet and that'll give you a bunch

[keen sequoia]

thanks

[red berry]

where even is that

[dusky moon]

MSI first release day

[merry night]

1600W psu is insane

[heavy nacelle]

if you have Fresh Meat, does bloodthirst enrage you before doing damage? 😛

[summer quail]

no

[heavy nacelle]

😢 thx

[hollow elk]

At this point I'd wait for Tuesday and do the first 10 quests of the goblin Town which will most likely give you a full set of lvl appropriate gear and that's easily clearable by a naked alt.

[tidal lantern]

You still want the ring

[hollow elk]

Meh. I guess he technically has nothing else to do till Tuesday anyways

[keen sequoia]

How do fk i get those gems

there is noo catch up system or some vendor?

[lost vigil]

Just spent 10 minutes doing the island bosses. You’ll see they award gems. Do the world quests there and after like an hour you’ll have all gems and max ilvl ring.

Use the scrap iron or whatever currency drops from mobs to buy catch up gear.

[clever belfry]

flame-blessed iron i think

[hallow shore]

i am confused with this what spec will pull ahead

[oblique trail]

Simwise they're both very close with Arms slightly ahead

[hallow shore]

with these new buffs?

[oblique trail]

But in practice remains to be seen, both could see play

Those aren't exactly super new

So yes

[clever belfry]

ok, NERD

[oblique trail]

shut idiot cat pope

[clever belfry]

i am the pope

[oblique trail]

you're inf more of a nerd than I am

[clever belfry]

bow to mew

kiss the ring

[oblique trail]

kiss the

[clever belfry]

kiss the 🔮

[elder mulch]

old screen

[oblique trail]

Those changes are 2 weeks old at this point

[keen sequoia]

how different are arms and fury playstyle?

[devout totem]

one is adhd demon and the other one is grand pa style

[keen sequoia]

adhd demon is fury?

[oblique trail]

That's an old perspective to have

[devout totem]

yes

[keen sequoia]

😦

[oblique trail]

Fury is faster, but both are GCD locked

[clever belfry]

honestly arms with EB is more adhd

cause u gotta react to procs within the global a lot more often

[keen sequoia]

what EB stands for

[oblique trail]

Exhilarating Blows

It's an Arms talent that resets Mortal Strike/Cleave CD on their use

[coarse nest]

Kiss the what!?!?

[keen sequoia]

Oka oka

[covert blaze]

Explode Banezi

[clever belfry]

explode balls

[south kayak]

banezi

are you playing this new league

[oblique trail]

Playstyle wise you can argue they're sorta similar, but Fury has way easier access to AoE compared to Arms, and Arms doesn't really care too terribly much what buttons they press, as long as they consistently Mortal Strike on CD (this is a really dumbed down version, but still holds up mostly)

I'm not because the game is unplayably laggy

I will try and fix it at some later point but I cba rn

[south kayak]

yeah it is

im just brute forcing through it lol

[dire vigil]

Arms should have a way to apply sweeping strikes passively. Stupid button imo

[nimble sphinx]

Isnt sweeping off the gcd?

[clever belfry]

its a short global

[oblique trail]

It's on half the GCD

[nimble sphinx]

Ah

[dire vigil]

What does half the GCD mean?

[oblique trail]

Exactly as it sounds

It's half the normal GCD

[dire vigil]

Like it cant be Macro’d but you can use another ability twice as quickly?

[oblique trail]

Correct

[dire vigil]

Got it

[oblique trail]

It can still feel a bit clunky depending on how much you have to press at once

[clever belfry]

ravager
sweep
wb
roar
demolish
cleave

good thing u dont have many things to press

[oblique trail]

Castsequence it all

[dire vigil]

Jesus. That’s alot. I like one button Reck Ava Roar into Ravager/BS

One Button Warrior

[dapper goblet]

madox for yellow

[oblique trail]

<@&257983573498265600>

[iron portal]

NUKE IT

[clever belfry]

yooo1!!!!

+50

[oblique trail]

-50

[iron portal]

Damn, we lost free 50 dollars

[clever belfry]

why remove 50usd gg

[oblique trail]

I will consider clicking when it's 50 euro

[iron portal]

That is the spirit

[junior gale]

Gyro you guys use food for money!

[red berry]

the 100$ steam gift card lmao. ive not been able to get my hands on a 5090 yet

[dusky moon]

I never even got my steam card lmao

[red berry]

lmao

[dusky moon]

I actually forgot about that okay I'm sending emails

[red berry]

100$ is worth it tbh

[coarse nest]

Bro them free steam gift cards been flying through skyhold lately lmao

[restive peak]

Someone hook me up w 1 wtf?!

[slim coral]

Who is ready for the 4 hour dps tier list from max tomorrow

[coarse nest]

So stoked

[slim coral]

That hunter guy yaps forever

[dapper goblet]

lets get a perma mute on baze

[slim coral]

Xeos is gonna get called in I heard

[coarse nest]

“Xeos speaks for all warriors”

[dapper goblet]

crazy how this tier is looking just like jailer tier

4+ warriors

because both specs are op

[coarse nest]

You stop that!

Nerfs imminent

Tell max how bad we are nobody will play warrior can’t do spread cleave

[spiral umbra]

Or maybe... Just maybe, that the sims are bugged and are obviously inflated

[summer crater]

Who's max

[young swan]

gm/rl of liquid

[fickle cedar]

arms in S tier comin

did he do the tank/heal one already ?

[summer quail]

yes

[fickle cedar]

oh shit, didnt know holy pal was that bad

[lapis slate]

fuck walmart, stay big

[hollow elk]

this for m+ or raids

wait what chart is this xD

[bright sable]

man this whole pugging HC thing is going terrible holy shit

where do you guys find all these "good" pug groups? 😭

[hollow elk]

good pug groups on tuesdays

[bright sable]

I have tried 4 different groups now and they have been disaster after disaster, way worse than any of my guild runs which are already not great lol

[hollow elk]

progresively gets worse closer to the weekend

[bright sable]

great lmao

[summer quail]

max from liquid tierlist, brings in content creators and/or good players that give opinions. in that list dorki ranked all tanks and automatikjack rated healers. combined raid+m+ rating

[hollow elk]

jesus thats some mix

[whole yacht]

immediately after reset, or making it yourself over the course of 4 hours

[whole yacht]

pugs on fridays are brain dead

[dense salmon]

Did he do his big video with all classes?

[oblique thistle]

No, just tanks and healers today, all dps tomorrow

PSA that Max's community tier lists are pretty much always memes and combines both M+ and raid together so ratings are always scuffed
Stay big, blow up and fuck Walmart

[sinful spoke]

@mossy fox put us in f tier

[summer quail]

@mossy fox put arms in s tier

[sinful spoke]

F tier

Fury in f-

[summer quail]

no, fury in f tier. arms in S

[oblique thistle]

Arms 5 big booms
Fury in Walmart

[sinful spoke]

Mutou not cooking rn

[summer quail]

So it gets nerfed

[sinful spoke]

Do not nerf arms

I love both specs

Learn to love ur class

[wind torrent]

Learn to play both brother

[summer quail]

biiig arms nerfs, then we get rework in 11.1.5

[sinful spoke]

Enh dominated for an entire patch

[summer quail]

i know how to play both, i just don't like arms

[sinful spoke]

Surely warrior will too

[sinful spoke]

This is actual hopium overdose

[wind torrent]

I hope arms gets a rework

and fury uncap

[summer quail]

ikr

[oblique thistle]

I don't think they can ever truly uncap fury without it being a balancing headache
Both specs honestly need some kind of large changes, arms much more so than fury but I think fury needs something as well

[summer quail]

honestly tho, they could just remove juggernaut and i wouldn't mind playing arms

juggernaut with slayer is such degen gameplay

[wind torrent]

not a fan of rng?

pffft

[summer quail]

not that kind of rng xD. very fun losing all 10+ jugg stacks at 37% hp

rng fun for procs. not fun for maintenance buffs

[restive peak]

Who wants to tell him enh is still s tier in 11.1?

[pearl sequoia]

perfectly balanced as all things should be

[sinful spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/aww-hell-nahh-aww-hell-aww-hell-nahh-gif-9659330954843262630

[restive peak]

It giga fucks still

[dense elbow]

Sure, but we bring rallying cry

[hardy shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/ponste9-gif-20328956

[sinful spoke]

Surely they let us have some fun

[clever path]

Do we always prio Bloodthirst over Raging Blow as mountain thane? and is that reversed for slayer?

[sour frigate]

u prio bt in aoe to proc blast/reap

[fervent yoke]

BB in AoE fucks

my fav ability to press when AoE

[gleaming talon]

Nerf arms

Buff fury

[sour frigate]

Wtf

[gleaming talon]

Remove aoe war

Buff single target war

[sour frigate]

Isnt woyer big st on ptr now?

Both specs

[sand crest]

delete aug add support warr

[sour frigate]

^

Now we talking

[sterile plover]

hello folks. i saw on archon that in high keys berserkers tornment is chosen. I dont get this talent - do i not sent anyhow both CD - recklessness and avatar anyhow at the same time? does i stack than or what is the point of that talent? or do i sent them one after another? https://www.archon.gg/wow/builds/fury/warrior/mythic-plus/overview/high-keys/all-dungeons/this-week

[snow edge]

Short answer - it stacks, and Beserker's Torment is the go without OF

[sudden tusk]

it stacks so yuo basically get 28 seconds of avatar and lik 20ish of recklessness

[sterile plover]

which built would you recommend for 13-14 keys? was playing all the time according to the wow head built (with OF...)

btw thx for answering highly appreciated

[sullen dove]

if you want one less button to hit its about the same and usually a bit better to yea just drop the odyns for VC and swap torments

just remove a button from hotbar and other stuff hits harder

but can still odyns plenty fine if you want to

[sudden tusk]

CgEAmidFBOBFf5oKuZ7r/WeW7MAAAAAAAAAAagZGMMMDWGmxCMMDzwMMzssNzYmZ2YmZmZGmhthBzYAAAgwYgNYZzoxMgMLwixC

less buttons more prio more boss dam

OF does no dam now anyway

[sterile plover]

ty

[coarse nest]

The no OF thane build owns

[sterile plover]

i just played a GB13 and OF contributed 8,9% of total dmg overall

[unkempt dagger]

so do you guys still macro recklessness and avatar together even with that talent picked?

[restive peak]

Yeah I just ran OF for laziness for all my title keys

It’s a very minimal difference

There’s something nice about just charging and OFing and then goin boom without using brain

[snow edge]

The QoL is super nice

immediate enrage and damage dump is satisfying

[restive peak]

It’s just such a minuscule difference anyway, and tbh if you’re in a high enough key and your dmg is what it hinges on…I got bad news xD

We are very mid

[unkempt dagger]

yay or nay?

[warm crag]

you can sure why not

[sterile plover]

had an enhancer with me in that GB13... that guy died 4 times or so and still outdps me (1,6mio me and he was 2,0mio...) its hopeless. also i am bad 😄

[unkempt dagger]

what increased my dps this season is not wasting cb and bloodbath

the only time i would waste them is in like 2 stacks plus rampage burst window that you have when you pop cds

[sour frigate]

wow

[unkempt dagger]

but for raids atleast it really helped me to kinda pinch my finger when i wanna press rampage before i did bloodbath

[sour frigate]

following prio makes ur damage bigger!

[unkempt dagger]

hey, i started september last year! 😄

leave me this one small victory

[sour frigate]

Keep up the good work man 💪

Make warrior

[unkempt dagger]

im pretty happy with my first season, got to 2,8k rio rating, and did 4/8 mythic

[restive peak]

Yeah my 632 enh giga stomps
My warr on overall

[sour frigate]

Sounds very good for new player

[unkempt dagger]

kyveza is also ezpz but idk, some in the guild dont understand it i guess

[restive peak]

The gap is actually insane this tier dmg overall wise

[sudden tusk]

cant judge yourself vs enhance

[restive peak]

We’ve been weaker than meta plenty of times, but the gap is insane

[unkempt dagger]

i played ascension for a long time, like 5plus years

[sour frigate]

ikr first timed ench ended with 2.3kk overall in nw...

[sudden tusk]

that class is actually doing 30% more damage then everyone else

[sour frigate]

fdk has some nuts numbers either

at least in 10th key range

[sour frigate]

mages can do giga too

[restive peak]

We can compete with fdks

[unkempt dagger]

the gm of the guild im in has like 5 or 6 chars with 3kplus rating

[restive peak]

Enh and boomie and rogue are the most cracked

[sterile plover]

will you guys play arms in next season? according to what youtube told me the dps output will be solid

[unkempt dagger]

no

arms feels so clunky to play compared to fury

atleast for me, im not talking overall 😄

[modest condor]

heck arms fury4life

wont let some tierlist maker who has done 1 key with a dps warrior decide what spec i prefer to play 😠

[sour frigate]

^

[restive peak]

I’ll play whatever is best for higher keys, but I’m still on the fury probably wins due to prio and tankiness

[modest condor]

tbh i think arms is tanky enough at this point that tankiness doesnt really matter anymore

[restive peak]

Did a key with one of vodkas fire mages earlier, as soon the key is 13+ and we get 3 reck/rav/roars and 2 avatars in a pull, fury is right next to it

Yeah I guess colo has passive dmg reduction now too

[modest condor]

crit did a meadery as fury and he topped the overall

first pull was like 12mil dps vs arms ~14mil

[restive peak]

Yeah, honestly it’s VERY possible that some keys favour arms and some fury, and same for the raid

[sour frigate]

was it PIed?

[modest condor]

i think in high keys you would only play arms if you have a boss damage pumper

i dont remember

dont think so tho

he was playing with a destro lock

or no wait the lock was demo

[sour frigate]

in higher keys u would play fire/destro

[unkempt dagger]

if i played arms i wouldnt be able to look cool

sadge

[restive peak]

Fury’s boss and prio damage is noticeably higher, arms is just way better for the huge uncapped pulls

But again, fury competes

[sour frigate]

^

u have to sacrifice st talents for huge aoe as arms...

[sterile plover]

i mean i have no idea... my opinion is based on a video from a guy petko. he did a list and rated each specc and according to this guy arms is much better for m+. dont know how legit his statement is

[acoustic seal]

i saw the updates channel ping and my heart sank im not gonna lie

[restive peak]

Tier lists mean nothing

They’re cash grabs from streamers

[sour frigate]

tier lists are just for content

[quiet geyser]

How many times are tier lists gonna get mentioned in this channel today

My god

[acoustic seal]

it is that time of the pre-season :)

[restive peak]

They also didn’t do keys with any of us that compete at higher levels on 75% of the specs

[sour frigate]

they r virus

[acoustic seal]

"guys listen i tried this spec once and never have played it before... it is totally C tier"

[restive peak]

So if your tier list is based around you having done keys with 5 of the like 25 DPS specs it’s fuckin pointless

[sterile plover]

sorry had no idea it is such a critical topic

[gilded pawn]

tier list keeps their pockets full

[restive peak]

Or even worse, they play something they don’t main at all lmao and go “oh it’s not strong”

[unkempt dagger]

this is what happens when i play with guildies 😄

[sterile plover]

channel goes crazy 😄

[unkempt dagger]

and they are like, warrior does dmg 😮

[modest condor]

it's something that happens every patch so every patch we have to go through the same thing

[restive peak]

Yeah bruh throw me on a warlock and I’ll make em look C tier

[modest condor]

people get tired of it

[unkempt dagger]

me on monk dps

[rare garnet]

agree

[sterile plover]

okok.. just started with TWW 🙂

[restive peak]

Welcome to the zugzug brother

[sterile plover]

ty 🙂

[unkempt dagger]

ooooo i like what u did there with shoulders

and the sword

[restive peak]

But yeah, good lesson to learn early; tier lists are always baseless

[unkempt dagger]

holy that looks so cool

[sterile plover]

that transmog is sick

[restive peak]

Yodas is probably the most unbiased because he admits it means basically fuck all and we won’t even settle a meta til a few weeks into the .5 patch

[gilded pawn]

the first weeks all the best players are farming for raid

[quiet geyser]

Tier lists are part of the greater problem of the whole "metas only get invited". They're garbage, and full of sand bagging anyways. Ret was labeled like B or C for season 1 TWW, ya.. we saw how that held up

[sour frigate]

arms looks massive.

[unkempt dagger]

i meaaan, but look at the picture that guy posted

[sour frigate]

Not a fan of naked woyeor

[unkempt dagger]

LOOK AT THE NIPPLES

[sour frigate]

[unkempt dagger]

good

[dense elbow]

5% Nerf for arms and fury

[covert blaze]

when is max doing le funny tier list thingy

[dense elbow]

Gg

[compact knot]

tomorrw

[covert blaze]

gg

[glad coyote]

Warrior
Arms
All ability damage reduced by 5%.
Fury
All ability damage reduced by 5%.

ooof

[compact knot]

could be worse

tbh

[glad coyote]

it could

[dense elbow]

We dead, pack it up, reroll hunter

[slim coral]

Bruh

They gotta chill

[vagrant imp]

5%!!! time to quit wow forever,

[pure echo]

I don’t understand why they giga buffed all dps warrior abilities except cooldowns, then did a blanket nerf to further reduce cooldown effectiveness.

[dense elbow]

Seems like the DPS diff between arms/Fury is intended tho
And seemingly we are where they want us to be

Profile not being adjusted is sad, but hey

[hallow cipher]

blizzard has no clue what they doing dang rip

[slim coral]

lets just make it so warrior's cds do no damage

[young swan]

expected

[slim coral]

[glad coyote]

at least aug got nerf'd as well

[hallow cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/warrior-blizzard-wow-classic-push-hank-hill-gif-27417019

[slim coral]

uh idk if our cds needed to be hit by 5 percent

but we still up so idc

[young swan]

i mean if u didnt expect them just to aura nerf ur a crazy person

[compact knot]

^

[glad coyote]

we get hit with 5% yet fire mage is dodging that nerf bat

[spiral orbit]

Why would prot needed to have dodged nerfs

[ashen socket]

Because blizz loves to nerf warrior for no reason lmfao

[slim coral]

could just aura nerf everything but the cds tho

[dense elbow]

While true, they just trying to hit a set benchmark overall goal for the raid

This be the ez way

[slim coral]

raid is whatever it's just that warrior always suffers in m+ due to it

[dense elbow]

Is what it is

[sullen dove]

shamans get away with it yet again

die xeos

[slim coral]

it's ok

we still bringin 4 warriors surely

[oak garden]

Was warrior that strong in ptr that we deserve that nerf i guess no.

[young swan]

sure but they're lazy

[ashen socket]

What were charts looking like before nerfs?

Someone have a ss?

[slim coral]

3 mill ST

[young swan]

we were insanely good

[slim coral]

roughly

arms at 3.1

[pure echo]

With the tuning dps warrior received doesn’t cd abilities seem less impactful? Those that don’t augment their rotational abilities anyway like spear/roar.

[young swan]

now we're 5% less than insanely good

[dense elbow]

When you look at low end, ye, we got brought closer to the rest

[slim coral]

last I heard warlock was simming at like 2.4

[young swan]

sandbaggers

[pure echo]

I haven’t played PTR but just numbers alone makes it a bit concerning.

[young swan]

yeah they already sucked

everything got nerfed by 5% tho so everything is the same still

[dense elbow]

Dooming and meme aside, we are fine. Don't worry, we still got some fuel in the tank to take another hit

[ashen socket]

Some blizz dev read that and said "you asked for it"

[sullen dove]

bro thinks they gonna let us alone wit dat 💀

3 more coming first week of patch

[ashen socket]

10% Nerf inc

[dense elbow]

I will burn this class to the ground to see OF buffed

[young swan]

sure

but people are dooming now

[sullen dove]

call it uh

history doesnt repeat itself but it does often rhyme

[pure echo]

Maybe a hot take, but warrior being legitimately the worst utility class in game should be best damage

[rough herald]

HAHA

[ashen socket]

I am just at a point in which unless fury is meta I wont play it, Its not bad but I rather just have insta keys instead of sitting in que for 30 mins to an hour

and that wont change unless its meta

[pure echo]

Or you know, they could give warrior real utility in a raid/M+ setting.

[oak garden]

Trust me you wait no matter which dps you are.

[quiet geyser]

having meta damage = utility.

[sullen dove]

the only reasonable thing is rally should get same treatment as other raidwide defensives

some nice buff in 5mans

either half cd or something

double effect dont think good nuff

[ashen socket]

@buoyant salmon inc to say warrior doesn't need more util

[dense elbow]

Oh I am calling it, and going to bed. Don't want to see another warrior needs AoE CR and Heroism+

[oak garden]

It sucks since they nerfed it for half

[red berry]

lmao

[south seal]

ong

[pure echo]

Not true. I was stomping most frost DK’s as fury in season 1. Guess who couldn’t get invited to pug keys?

[dense fulcrum]

it didnt even made to live...i mean i could understand arms, but why nerf fury dmg

[quiet geyser]

it is true. if you're S+ M+ dmg, you get brought. simple as that

[rose bay]

Damn only 5% blizzard blizzard is kind

i wase expecting 30

[oak garden]

Dont think its Blizzard they Hard nerf warrior if they get to the top 1/3 of the specs but ignore enh. For the entire season.

[rigid stirrup]

I would like 1 mythic week of being real good before a nerf

[unreal kelp]

There is still room for another 20% to take off

[young swan]

idk allat

[red berry]

idk if i can follow you there frodo yeah

[pure echo]

Warrior needs useful utility. Everyone has snares now so hamstring is borderline useless. Rally is ok in raid, borderline useless in M+ outside of VERY niche cases and even then not going play making. Battleshout’s good but often overlooked even in a melee meta because others offer better utility.

[oak garden]

I bet the nerfe is not finished

[sweet palm]

Well i said today, very that is odd that blizzard did not nerf us.

[buoyant salmon]

utility doesnt matter

i dont even play right now and ppl still fighting this debate

[clever sun]

give us a bloodlust shout, it fits perfect with the class fantasy of being a raging dual weilding berzerker

[buoyant salmon]

kekw

yes bc bloodlust is useful utility that greatly benefits hunters

[oak garden]

Make more sense then the Pet providing bl

[slim coral]

you can't blame them when all the top m+s say oh warrior is this tier becuase it brings no utility

it cant be meta

blah blah blah

[pure echo]

^ also hunter’s are sometimes brought just because they have lust.

[slim coral]

I know it's all about dps I'm just saying

can't blame randoms for saying it

[rose bay]

they could take off 200% ill still be fucking playing this class

[soft orbit]

i still think they need to do some thinking about the future of warrior besides tanking

[pure echo]

Yeah that’s not true. When has dps warrior ever been meta for M+?

[buoyant salmon]

top m+ers are idiots

shocker

[pure echo]

Sounds like you’re speaking as a weekly 10 doer. It’s ok lil bro you can be wrong.

[warm crag]

can't believe they wouldn't let warrior be decent for at least one patch now it won't even be brought for battle shout

i am fuming

[compact siren]

!

warrior actually does 2 whole damage

[dense elbow]

rip dps warrior, the straw broke the camels back

[glad coyote]

fire mage still not touched lol

[violet condor]

we surely couldnt of been that far ahead ive heard a lot of warlock and shaman and bm and mage being op but nothing about warrior

[covert blaze]

implode

[warm crag]

then you werent listening lol

[violet condor]

not a single video ive watched has even talked about warrior

[warm crag]

i literally dont touch nor look at ptr with a 10 feet pole and i was aware warr was ahead

[violet condor]

other than it being mid

[warm crag]

okay im sorry your sole source of information is youtube videos and tier lists

[junior gale]

Tier list andys

[sullen dove]

who is watching wow videos

[fluid pollen]

.05

[violet condor]

what people say in skyhold and online are 2 different things

[compact siren]

spongie both streams warrior gameplay and writes the APL, what a busy boy!

[junior gale]

guys this guy put Fury in B tier why is it getting nerfed

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-meme-gif-23342140

[sage karma]

warrior 0 utility but can't be allowed to excel in any damage profile

[violet condor]

people in here almost seem to get off saying "yea we deserved that nerf and to be mid" no other class discord does that

[sage karma]

someone at blizz hates warriors

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/anya-forger-200-mg-tramadol-gif-9712383856961694160

[fluid pollen]

Play mage

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/miyabi-hoshimi-miyabi-i'm-all-ears-im-all-ears-miyabi-im-all-ears-hoshimi-miyabi-gif-1067293683967029173

[dense elbow]

I am fine with these nerds, as long we still do more dam than Ret

[warm crag]

nerds

[dense elbow]

[outer umbra]

Idk whats worse getting nerfed a week a into a tier after heroic (not even mythic)

Or before the tier even fucking starts lmao

[glad coyote]

before it starts

[dense elbow]

It is worse getting nerfed after the fact

[sinful spoke]

@edgy widget glad ur alive bro

[dense elbow]

Now you won't lose DPS, as you never had it

[buoyant salmon]

i dont even play man

[sinful spoke]

ty for the calcs

[slim coral]

you

[sullen dove]

[leaden marlin]

I just looked at the class tuning :(... im now upset

[sly crane]

there it is boys

warrior nerfs

[sullen dove]

went from rly strong to rly strong 😦

[young swan]

why

[edgy widget]

it's very minor overall

[junior gale]

guys we do 5% less dmg now its all over I must delete my warrior now and reroll ret

[sly crane]

and evoker nerfs 🙏

[primal python]

never gonna financially recover from this

[restive fiber]

Are there any buffs for fury burst ?

[bright sable]

I finally fucking got it god

[bright sable]

ret buffed by 5%

😃

[warm crag]

guys we do 5% less dmg now its all over I must delete my warrior now and reroll ret

[eager stirrup]

I can't wait until AI can competently balance their game for them since we've been on a 20 year roller coaster of not being able to do math.

[young swan]

guys we do 5% less dmg now its all over I must delete my warrior now and reroll ret

[primal python]

guys we do 5% less dmg now its all over I must delete my warrior now and reroll ret

[frank dawn]

guys we do 5% less dmg now its all over I must delete my warrior now and reroll ret

[grave cypress]

But for a class with very little to almost nothing in utility to bring to a group and been target capped nerfing our damage in a season that looks to have pulls of 10+ mobs in most keys is a fairly big hit imo

[young swan]

fury wasnt going to be meta regardless

[buoyant salmon]

is this 10.0

what happen

[bright sable]

guys how do you keep track of keeping enrage up 100% uptime

I think thats my biggest issue rn

[dense elbow]

guys we do 5% less dmg now its all over I must delete my warrior now and reroll ret

[young swan]

fury and arms look very strong, fury and arms get slap on the wrist

[primal python]

WA bar, or icon if you prefer that

[young swan]

now we doom

[sullen dove]

just hit rampage

[bright sable]

I try

[sullen dove]

100% never happens anyway

but like idk 90-95% should be plenty sufficient

[bright sable]

well I just got 76% on queen

which is uhh

[sullen dove]

yea i mean theres a lot of downtime

[bright sable]

I did a decent bit of dps dont get me wrong but ye

[sullen dove]

maybe taht is a bit much

[bright sable]

idk how to read wow logs well enough

[covert blaze]

rogue buffed btw

[edgy widget]

it's a 5% nerf after buffing rotational spells by upwards 40%

it's the definition of minor

[sullen dove]

i had 84% uptime on mythic queen

of enrage

[sullen dove]

and sikran (full uptime basically) 98%

so yea it seems pretty plausible to losel ike 15%ish on queen

from all the waiting and phases and shit

[bright sable]

keep in mind im a stupid bitch and playing mountain thane on single target

[sullen dove]

yea i mean thats also not great

but wcyd

[bright sable]

so im sure I can do more dps

[modern summit]

https://tenor.com/view/miyabi-zenless-zone-zero-zzz-hoyoverse-motivated-gif-7272010783378449680

[violet condor]

heh...surely this will be the only nerf r-right? p-please blizzard dont nerf us 6 times again oh god please...

[bright sable]

honestly im just waiting for s2 to decide wtf im doing

[sudden tusk]

IMALLEARS

[bright sable]

im definitely playing warrior

but idk if im playing fury m+ only, or fury in raids too

or maybe prot in raids

its all up in the air

[red berry]

my biggest issue is a blanket nerfs target abilities that aren't used in the first place

[bright sable]

Average Blizzard

[celest sierra]

And so it begins fellas

[red berry]

like you said, its not as if bladestorm needed it. or ravager.

[junior gale]

blizzard don't think things through when they do things to warrior so its no surprise

[bright sable]

they really said "battle shout? how about we make it work for everyone except the one who casts it"

[celest sierra]

First we got showed warrior buffs and now as the patch gets closer the nerfs begin

[buoyant salmon]

my biggest issue is your haircut

[bright sable]

DUDE so real

my haircut is awful rn

the growing out phase from a buzzcut is VILE

[glad coyote]

i really wish blizz would explain why they nerf'd the way they did

[young swan]

lazy

[warm crag]

easy fix ye

[bright sable]

btw how quick will we replace hero 6/6 gear next season

should I even bother to enchant an upgrade I just dropped

or is it pointless

[warm crag]

depends if you raid and how much you care

[sullen dove]

626 is like

[bright sable]

if I raid it will be normal first then maybe heroic

[sullen dove]

lfr gear no

[bright sable]

I havent kept track

[sullen dove]

2/8 lfr i think

[bright sable]

if its lfr then yea fuck wasting 4k gold lol

some dude just paid me fucking

50k gold for a curio

after the queen kill

[sullen dove]

quizzical

[bright sable]

pop off I guess but like.. why?

[warm crag]

still depends if you care then, my guild would slap me if i didnt turn up to raid with enchants

[bright sable]

my guild is uhhh

[sullen dove]

yea u aint worryin bout that

[bright sable]

it has been discussed in here before ill put it that way

[flat river]

gg we are so done

[bright sable]

as of right now I am one of the head PvE officers/somewhat leader of the PvE side but I am about to quit and try to find something else lol

we have wiped 50 times on heroic queen and im just not sure I can be bothered anymore :))

[warm crag]

head pve officer holy moly

[sullen dove]

title

[bright sable]

so true guys im so cool

[sinful spoke]

fury got shafted

[bright sable]

I get to waste tons of hours each week planning and setting up an event

[sinful spoke]

for no reason

cause arms performance

[bright sable]

just so all the guildies can do 400-600k dps

with 625 ilvl

kill me pls

[sullen dove]

yea i mean they just arent humans

give up

[bright sable]

I am

[dense elbow]

Zulu, you at this again? Thought you left that guild behind

[bright sable]

nah just recapping

just got my AOTC from a pug group

im waiting to see wtf the guild master does

he said he would take over organizing this weeks raid and I can just show up and raid lead

its now Saturday and there has been no announcement of a raid date

im just letting him fail and seeing what happens lol

[covert blaze]

if your guild is somehow worse than pugging

idk man

[bright sable]

well to be fair

I just tried pugging 5 times and it was somehow worse

[rigid stirrup]

Point still stands lmao

[warm crag]

did you see warrior is dead not even brought for bshout

[bright sable]

got lucky on this last one only because the group leader was willing to kick shit dps/fail mechanic people

[bright sable]

yeah my philosophy is idc if you are shit as long as you are willing and motivated to learn and improve

[bright sable]

so far they are mostly just shit and none of the other parts

🥰

[covert blaze]

i see you from the small hole in your bedroom wall
do not turn around

[warm crag]

ok come in and have some tea with me

[covert blaze]

bet

[bright sable]

anyway if y'all know any good guilds... LMAO

[buoyant salmon]

did anything change with bshout

[acoustic seal]

liquid echo uhh method

[bright sable]

yes warrior is kil

[young swan]

good name

[bright sable]

I am gonna make a new guild

only warriors allowed

[covert blaze]

thank you Xantaga

[bright sable]

name will be 55555

[covert blaze]

go on wowprog and look for guilds with goals similar to yours
thats what most people do

[bright sable]

we just need to find one more thing warriors have that is 5

so we can be 5x5

[feral ivy]

is the crest the same from +8 vs 10?

[earnest canyon]

5% nerf....aaaaargh....I told you guys to sandbag and moan like warlocks

[elder epoch]

Are the new talent builds already out?

[bright sable]

is there a list somewhere of all the diff currencies that will be reset

[restive peak]

Are warlocks actually moaning again? Lmaoooo they’re so cracked again

[shell wigeon]

5% size (colossus)

[dapper goblet]

Madox for yellow

[sudden tusk]

Madox for gasoline bath

[sly crane]

5 IQ

[sinful spoke]

i like madox

madox for yellow

[red berry]

if we're bad in mythic, we'll get buffs

[junior gale]

[cyan star]

https://tenor.com/view/warrior-blizzard-wow-classic-push-hank-hill-gif-27417019

Sorry everyone, 11.1 comeback is a false alarm.

[mild ravine]

To be fair, there should be someone constantly complaining like Ellesmere does for holy pallys.

[young swan]

if my spec is good in raid im happy

generally speaking

[feral ivy]

lets all think of the best times for warriors... remember when frost DK got nerfed for 1 second and their discord got muted

good times

[cyan star]

Tbt legion 7.1

[nimble ermine]

onslaught will pop off now

[cyan star]

🫡

[dapper goblet]

Warrior most op melee still

[edgy widget]

Enh has entered the chat

[acoustic seal]

they have so many ranged spells not really melee xdd

[lime perch]

Make warrior

[earnest canyon]

Make warrior greg again

[fathom wolf]

Is OF like mega mega dead now after this?

[cyan star]

Make warriors warrior again

[modern summit]

for ppl who did ptr testing

were these nerfs warranted?

[cyan star]

Unlikely

They nerfed warriors early S1 just to buff them 🤷🏻‍♂️

[high echo]

A little

[lime perch]

I approve of this message

[modern summit]

Cause it seems like they overbuffed with the recent buffs past few weeks and they just wanna curb it a little before it goes live so they dont have a S1 fiasco on their hands again

[restive peak]

Blueman sandbag detected

The arms nerfs are probably warranted, but done horribly and in a way that probably wasn’t, the fury buffs would be warranted if Destro lock/fire mage/enh/ele all ate nerfs too

But otherwise, I’d say not super warranted and based purely on unrealistic patchwerk sims

Feral buffs are interesting since tbh feral is kinda pumping on PTR already, if MOTW is necessary and resto is bad it may sneak into the current enh spot

[earnest canyon]

blanket aura nerfs always feel like either "we dont know what we are doing" or "shit we ran out of time"

[restive peak]

Cuz if feral does great DPS, brings mark, and brez…it’s more than enh brings now since most of the shaman utility isn’t as necessary in s2

[merry night]

did i just

see fury got nerfed

[golden kiln]

Enhance is a good example of the kind of treatment you'd want when nerfing an overpowered, but flawed spec design wise