fury

[restive peak]

20 above 15s, title, come @ me Banezi

[clever belfry]

is fucking nothing innit

[restive peak]

But for most yeah

[restive granite]

doing those keys you cant miss one cc or one interrupt, all your cds have to be perfectly alligned and defensive usage has to be on top, I would think they must be very good at the game

[restive peak]

Raiding true prog is harder than M+

[lapis shadow]

Yet our worst m+ player with like just all 10s is our best raider

[oblique trail]

You'd think so

But they are still seriously dogshit in raid

[clever path]

they are very good at m+ and only m+

even pvpers do better in raid than m+ maxis

[oblique trail]

You can more easily convert experience from high end raiding to M+, than high end M+ to raid

[restive peak]

As someone who does both at decent levels...prog raiding is harder

[rigid stirrup]

Especially since there's 20 people

[frank dawn]

Sustained boss damage gameplay while managing mechanics is a unique beast. People can be good at many things in the game and still suck at raid dps

[restive peak]

M+ is very much learn your role, and then just all 5 repeat the exact same things

[junior gale]

Prog raiding requires a really high level of consistency.

[restive peak]

Raid requires coordinating 20 people while the mechanics consistently hit different sets of people

Who then have to coordinate quickly together

[restive granite]

Yeah, like ansurek took us 500 pulls but there were 4 decent players out of the 20. If we had those 4 on every slot it would have been a 80 pull kill honestly

[restive peak]

There is VERY little variance in keys

[restive granite]

post nerf ofcorse

[winter shoal]

We took 262 pulls on court and me/one of our other raiders agreed it would've been like 50 (all post-nerf) if people actually knew what they were doing

[restive granite]

im a race to world last raider

[winter shoal]

gz on queen btw @restive granite I saw your post the other day but I was bedge

[sullen dove]

yea having your 4 decent players be all 20 players is just what playing in a good guild feels like

[rigid stirrup]

As long as you cross the finish line right?

[restive granite]

ty ❤️

[winter shoal]

From what I've heard, yes, but then it gets super toxic

Lincc can you confirm

[sullen dove]

can he

concept poggers

think they did a good amount of rotating ppl on their first queen too

[winter shoal]

I'm talking about Rhythm

Got HoF and imploded bc everyone fucking hated each other or something

[sullen dove]

And I mean it can be toxic sure but like if they’re all friendly it’s just dudes hanging out

[restive peak]

Yeah Rhythm imploded due to toxicity

Egos clashing

[sullen dove]

yea I mean equinox dipped to chase e-poon

and whatever else

[junior gale]

Gotta find a perfect medium guild like mine consistently gets CE at a reasonable time while also spending all of raid fucking around and having fun

[restive peak]

Concept = complete opposite

[winter shoal]

Wait Lincc you're in early shift now?

[restive peak]

Yeah that's not why Equinox dipped

[winter shoal]

I love those guys

[restive peak]

Ye I took a big step down, casual life for me

[winter shoal]

A few of their raiders used to help my turbo shit guild back in df s1

[restive peak]

Equinox left when I did, and when Aya did, and we left because of the toxic childishness and the parselord M+ers who were inting pulls for 4hrs a night

[winter shoal]

Good lads

[restive peak]

Equinox met her way after we left Rhythm

[oblique trail]

Gotta say I can't speak from the pov of having a title myself

But I've been traumatised from bad M+ players in my raids

[sullen dove]

[oblique trail]

To the point of hating title holders 👍

[restive peak]

M+ is easier than prog raid, esp top 50-100

[restive granite]

I want to experience M raiding before the big nerfs, at least once

[sullen dove]

my guild cranks out like one a patch we get someone who kinda hasn’t played at a high level they’re in the guild for a few months and then they start doing high keys and get an ego and get mad and leave

which I mean fine for them ig lol just funny

[restive granite]

but i dont know how to weasle myself into those guilds

[sullen dove]

like happened 2-3 times now in the last few years

[restive peak]

You start at the low end and work your way up brotato

[sullen dove]

yea I mean if you got ce that’s good and can try to jump up a few hundred world ranks maybe

do it again next tier

Unlikely you’ll be jumping like 1000 ranks in 1 tier unless you’re like giga parser but even then parses not everything

[unkempt dagger]

very bad question from me, but i started retail september last year and i dont know the answer, is ptr down?

[junior gale]

Keep moving up till you find a guild your happy to be in

[oblique trail]

It very much helps having connections

[clever path]

join the 4/8M guilds. they always recruiting

then leapfrog

[oblique trail]

Personally I jumped from 800~ to 200, to 100

[winter shoal]

define giga parser

[oblique trail]

Just through connections

[restive peak]

Just don't be 1 of those dicks who lies to guilds, tell them you're intending to move ranking

[sullen dove]

me

[oblique trail]

Nepotism simply

[winter shoal]

fuk u

[restive peak]

Parses are not everything

[clever path]

if you have good heroic logs, entry mythic guilds will be more than happy to give you a shot

[sullen dove]

dude I lost it on kyveza

horrible night

20 pulls to rekill

[clever path]

then just work your way up from there

[sullen dove]

Died to 3 ppl walkin lines on me couldn’t secure a 95 or above

[restive peak]

If you have a 95 consistently and several mechanics, vs a guy with like 6 70s and 1 rando 100 when he got zero mechanics on farm, smart guilds take the 95 guy

[junior gale]

[restive granite]

I got recruited by a WR 500 guild but had to decline from how they approached me at first. Guild leader came and first thing he tells me is "my officers didnt want you in but im giving you a chance", like keep that shit to yourself no need to be starting beef even before i join the guild

[sullen dove]

Only non 99 for the entire tier

[clever path]

its a recruiting tactic, to make you feel special

[sullen dove]

[junior gale]

Ignore all mail box recruiters

[oblique trail]

That tactic will not help anyone except if they're really desperate

[junior gale]

You don't wanna be in those guilds

[sullen dove]

me when world 100 recruited me thru mailbox…

and I ignored…

[restive granite]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1326809946997919805.webp?size=96&animated=true

[winter shoal]

There's a guy on our server who mailboxes everyone who's like 7/8 to try and poach them into his CE guild

[clever path]

when you get into a cracked guild cause of nepotism, feelsgoodman

[winter shoal]

Unsurprisingly, they have omega high turnover

[sullen dove]

real

[radiant plank]

1500 -> 356 -> 14

[junior gale]

The amount of HOF guilds that have asked me to join through a mailbox invite

[vague rose]

Lol

[clever path]

i wouldnt be surprised

the mythic raiding pool is shrinking

[junior gale]

Ive had 3 this season alone

[sullen dove]

I think it could be quite easy to jump up to the big boy guilds but like been with these dudes for 3 yrs even if they kinda dookie they still funny

and would hate to be the straw that broke the camels back

[clever path]

mythic raiding feels more like a job than ever, more people getting burned out

[clever belfry]

does it tho?

[clever path]

yes

if you are in a good guild and expected to run splits

and maintain at least 1 or 2 alts

[sullen dove]

I mean most ppl raid for 6-9 hours a week

[junior gale]

That's why it's more important to find a guild you have fun in

[sullen dove]

and splits are only relevant for the first like week or 2 of a season

[clever belfry]

yeah and keeping up 1 alt + 1 main is less work

[sullen dove]

doing em past that is brain rotted

[clever belfry]

than half a character in bfa

so who cares

[restive peak]

I got into IMTB because of friends, got into Rhythm off a mailbox invite, the nepotism part is very real

[oblique trail]

language specific guilds moment

[radiant plank]

Very much so

[oblique trail]

both my high end guilds were Danish

[clever path]

and post prog you gonna be doing sales to raise funds for next tier

[oblique trail]

So it adds up

[coarse nest]

2 day guild where it’s at

[clever belfry]

sorry to hear that

[sullen dove]

Sure but sales take even less time cause you’re good at the bosses then

Like 2 hours a week to clear the raid with 1 or 2 carries

[clever belfry]

banezi danish terrace arc???

[oblique trail]

No one else wanted me or replied in time man..

[sullen dove]

Print gold

gg

[clever path]

i personally didnt mind them, but some people were so sick of the raid they couldnt wait to log off after prog

[oblique trail]

2 week reply time

[sullen dove]

yea I mean that can prolly happen too sure

[clever path]

doesnt help the fact that m+ is pretty much mandatory if you want to be raid relevant

[sullen dove]

just depends how many extra ppl you have that wanna play

[summer crater]

That's fucked up, only thing worse would be an all swedish guild

[sullen dove]

yea you should do m+ relatively regularly for like 4-8 weeks maybe at least for vaults

[oblique trail]

Sadly I have friends who have been part of those

[sullen dove]

But once ur like 636ish fishing for m+ vault became pointless

[oblique trail]

Wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy

[sullen dove]

I stopped doing keys for like 2 months

starting in like December or something

[junior gale]

Weekly keys are fun atleast for awhile just blast through them with the homies

[clever belfry]

👍

[sullen dove]

real

mine looks quite similar

[clever belfry]

mad i did that 11

[sullen dove]

But like 1 point in the middle of that big line

[clever belfry]

perfect flat line ruined

[sullen dove]

yea I did 4 12’s and don’t even know why

[clever path]

its just extra chores on top of the other crap you gotta do for raid prep

[oblique trail]

Flat like Fury's damage profile in S2

[sullen dove]

I’m not gonna play m+ minigame with pugs

[clever path]

if blizz separated m+ from raiding i think more people would join

[sullen dove]

love s2 fury

[clever belfry]

i dont think

ive done less keys any other ssn

ive actually played the game in

[clever path]

plus blizz def gonna add more systems in future patches so thats even more work

cough cough torghast

cough cough benthic gear/essences farm

[clever belfry]

i think

[oblique trail]

They've not had that all of DF

[clever belfry]

u just dont like mmos sir

[clever path]

not true

[junior gale]

I play with people who also hate that M+ is so important to raiding but idk I think separating the two would be more bad for the game.

[clever path]

i just think blizz should stop pve content bleedover

i.e making m+ items mandatory for a raid spot/raid performance

so the people who enjoy raiding can focus on raiding and not feel forced to do m+

[sly crane]

pugged most of my keys this season, was not fun

[clever path]

oof

[red berry]

im sorry i'd dn anything for love but i am never, ever, watching the warcraft movie ever again

[clever path]

i only play this game to raid and pvp

[sly crane]

I'm going to get ksl week 1 or 2 next season and then not do m+

[restive peak]

Was not even a bad movie, just not great lol

[junior gale]

Less you knew about warcraft the better the movie was

[red berry]

i dunno if i can follow you there. i think it was duncan's worst project

my man made moon

and moon rocked

[junior gale]

It was decent

[winter shoal]

KSL is gonna be easier than 2500 this season I think

[restive peak]

It wasn't good, it certainly wasn't awful

CGI was well done etc

[winter shoal]

Scaling is so chalked

[restive peak]

Except Medivh

[clever path]

they should have just made a movie about arthas

i dunno why they didnt

[clever belfry]

i went to the midnight premiere here

it was

quite boring i thought

[restive peak]

Arthas movie would go so FUCKIN HARD MAAAAN

[junior gale]

100% shoulda just started with the wc3 storyline

[red berry]

i don't know who i'd want to direct a warcraft movie at this point

i don't know if it was creative interference or a failure from duncan as a director

[junior gale]

Imagine a 2 part movie of both wc3 games

[clever path]

itd have to be more than 2 movies

an arthas trilogy would be best

[red berry]

everybody did love the frozen throne storyline

so it would be interesting to see that on screen

[restive peak]

Mage looks semi balanced S2? Giga AOE, very shit ST

[junior gale]

Fire

Exists

[clever path]

warrior looking to be top dps from what im hearing

[red berry]

sandbag

[clever path]

how soon before we catch nerfs

[junior gale]

Lincc look at azuna play fire

[clever path]

we got gutted after 1 week of nerubar

[junior gale]

Its op af rn

Just perma giga dmg all the time

[clever path]

we gon be op af in new raid

arms and fury have highest ST sims

[junior gale]

We're getting nerfed don't get your hopes up

Warrior doesn't survive being op

[clever path]

i'll take 1 week of being op

just to get insta invited

[winter shoal]

Crims sandbagging

[restive peak]

Bruh he lost to Crit everytime shhhh

[clever path]

bruh its actually wild

[junior gale]

Totally not PI monk diff

[clever path]

we are already past antorus numbers

and its only 2nd tier of raid

we finna be doing asian mmorpg numbers

[quiet geyser]

Diablo 4 numbers

[clever path]

imagine if we never stat and level squished

100B dps

[winter shoal]

Crazy that damage numbers used to ~3x from the beginning to the end of an expac, and now they do that between each raid tier

[clever path]

cause blizz keeps adding systems on top of systems which causes number bloat and power creep

[unkempt dagger]

guys, could anyone help me, how do i play ptr?

[clever path]

and everytime they do a squish some form of scaling gets fucked up

[winter shoal]

Choose this option on the launcher

[unkempt dagger]

yes i have that selected

but it doesnt find a server?

[winter shoal]

PTR servers might be down then

Actually nvm it just let me in

Do you have another version of the game running? I think it sometimes gets upset about that

[unkempt dagger]

do i need to create separate account or?

[winter shoal]

I don't think so but it's been a minute

[unkempt dagger]

https://eu.battle.net/support/en/article/211136

you need one! 😄

[modest hollow]

what is the strongest tank atm? for m+

[junior gale]

The tank you have the most fun on 🙂

[sour frigate]

according to stats its ppal

[undone flower]

Huge pp stats

[feral ivy]

prob been asked and answered but hows arms vs fury massive diff with arms winning ?

[fading sky]

80k on sims

So no not massive at all

[dense elbow]

How much in practical keys tho?
How much on raid fights?
How much in PvP?

Fury wins the DPS in my heart, that is the only certainty

[fading sky]

To be tested

Its close enough id play what u enjoy the most

Fury still target capped.

So arms prob has some adv

But id guess in most keys fury is nice

Higher st in aoe spec as usual

[dense elbow]

I am in the pit of:
OF is a DPS loss
Slayer is a DPS loss
Fury is a DPS loss
Warrior is a DPS loss

A lot of loss
Atleast I win at fun

[fading sky]

Thane is win

Warrior sims scaridly well in ptr

So we will prob get gutted before we start m+

Classic warrior

[dense elbow]

Prob gonna be gutted in pre-season, cause we make an uproar killing delve mobs too quickly

[fading sky]

Nah

Heroic dungeons

Hmm well at least of is bad

So no nerf there

[modest condor]

fury > arms in m+ because arms is just pad dont @ me

[oblique trail]

Arms also has unhinged so it has crazy prio damage

And don't forget slam from FoB

[dense elbow]

you are a pad

[iron portal]

2 swords > 1 sword

[whole yacht]

^ this

[fading sky]

Fact, which is why i arms

Pad ftw

When i want shit done i fury

[restive peak]

This is actually most likely true btw

Due to the prio of fury and general tankiness lol

Not the just pad part

[radiant plank]

is 33% crazy prio damage

[fading sky]

U could say its

[modest condor]

i said dont @ me and i get pinged 3 times 😠

[fading sky]

Unhinged

[south kayak]

Isn't Arms also quite a bit of prio since they use MS on cd

even on aoe

assuming Cleave is on cd

[oblique trail]

Some > none

[restive peak]

You cleave on CD

[fading sky]

Ms weak

[south kayak]

ms isn't weak

stop

[fading sky]

U op to empowet cleaves

In aoe dont u?

[south kayak]

you do press MS when cleave is on cd

[restive peak]

Furys ST is batshit insane in AOE spec

[fading sky]

Shh

Furys st is bad guys

So sad

[south kayak]

that's a good point, but it's not like arms does no prio

also, colossus arms st is a lot worse than fury so that's a thing too

[restive peak]

IT doesn't do no prio, but it's noticably worse than fury

Fury also has far more HP and 10% passive DR

[fading sky]

Ye and slayer arms is dog

[south kayak]

fair

[fading sky]

In aoe

[south kayak]

I think arms is tanky enough now to where that won't be an issue until way later

they got 10% more stamina

[fading sky]

Ofc

[south kayak]

and colossus has 5% dr

[restive peak]

It's still less tanky

They're heavily competitive for sure, and it'll be colo arms or thane fury if you want to compete in current tuning

Could change ofc, but yeah slayer is deadge for M+ as both currently

[sour frigate]

Mt has +8 when blasting

[fading sky]

Which is not a bad thing

[restive peak]

Personally hate demolish, but it's growing on me

Don't tell Dan

[fading sky]

Just make it a proper. One effect

[frank dawn]

Demolish big boom

[fading sky]

Cone

[frank dawn]

does have dopamine

[fading sky]

Imagine

[frank dawn]

but rooted in place is anti-dopamine

[fading sky]

Thane = arms

Collosus = fury

Wouldda been fab

[dense elbow]

Fury will have OF buffed, and dopamine will return

[south kayak]

it does actually increase your anxiety

combining that with dopamine

is... idk

[south kayak]

nah

very obvious from what they've done that they do not want fury to have the burst again

[dense elbow]

Yea... ye

OF is a core signature ability

It wont be forgotten

[frank dawn]

Buff Bladestorm and OF

they did nothing wrong in season 1

[south kayak]

It would be nice if they buffed Bladestorm at least

So we have one cd for aoe burst

BS is now alot worse because they buffed the other abilities

[frank dawn]

It's not awful because Unhinged was buffed so huge

but still, spec needs some redistribution

[south kayak]

true but the ability itself just sucks for aoe

[frank dawn]

yeh

sucks is perhaps a bit of a strong word

but it is meh

[south kayak]

I think they should nerf unhinged

to 75% of abilitie's damage

or 50%

and buff BS

I said it

[frank dawn]

eh I think Unhinged is fine if they renerf BT/RB to redistribute

but changing unhinged that way would also work I guess

if they don't want to nerf BT/RB

[south kayak]

I don't think so because unhinged is actually insane

in terms of dps

prob highest dps talent by far in that last section

by FAAAAR

[frank dawn]

comparing our last section isn't exactly a good benchmark

when almost every talent there is dog shit

[south kayak]

good point lmao

Stom of steel

[frank dawn]

lol

lmao

[south kayak]

• dps talent

does no dps

[modest condor]

yeah http://puu.sh/KoBer/6cddd0016b.png

that's how much you lose as slayer if you dont take unhinged

[rose bay]

Damn

[south kayak]

it's unhinged

[dense elbow]

[south kayak]

They went from removing Gathering Storms or whatever it was because it made BS weaker to now another talent that does exactly the same thing

classic

[dense elbow]

At least unhinged pushes the damage in the BS button itself, just segmented into ST value

[summer quail]

i mean hurricane was way more degen

[dense elbow]

so aint as bad as hurricane

[south kayak]

I agree it was worse

but still

[dense elbow]

Hurricane effects all need to get away from warrior >:(

Press button, do damage

[summer quail]

if unhinged is too much value and makes it hard to buff bladestorm, then just reduce the effectiveness of the bt/ms

[south kayak]

That's what I said

[dense elbow]

Think most of us are in that camp

[south kayak]

50% or 75% effectiveness

and buff BS

[dense elbow]

At least make it so that OF does more damage than a raging blow. Is my only ask at this point, holey moley

[frank dawn]

yeah I mean whether it's me arguing for baseline nerfs to BT/RB to buff the whole spec or Nerfing unhinged directly. Reducing the damage directly from unhinged seems fine with people

it still has cool interactions, and it's still about the total package of what happens when you press the bladestorm button

[dense elbow]

What if they turned the choice node into a "Buff BS by 100% damage" talent option. Then we got one for AoE value and one for ST value

[south kayak]

ST in dungeons even worse

[dense elbow]

Our ST is godlike tho

[frank dawn]

don't say that

it's just good!

[south kayak]

lmfao

[charred estuary]

Is it actually decent now

I'm assuming it's Slayer

tier with the most aoe fights in years

time to finally buff fury st

🐒

[dapper goblet]

madox for yellow

[sullen dove]

madox for yellow

baze for blue

[quiet geyser]

Fury does stupid good ST/boss damage in AoE apec.. that's a huge win

[charred estuary]

I know brother im just memeing

its what our niche always should have been, being able to switch between ST and 5 target seamlessly and not sacrifice

[dense elbow]

As long others dont do more than our 5t, and our 5t is leagues ahead - sure

it got some worth

[charred estuary]

I've always kind of thought about it as Fury should be great at 1 and 4-6 arms should be great at 2-3 and 7+

Obviously its not that easy but thats always made sense to me

[dense elbow]

I always been in the camp of Fury is strong 1-5t rotationally, and blast AoE with burst

[charred estuary]

we've always had a sore spot with 2 targets

and I think thats fair given thats arm's / destro's niche

[dense elbow]

Yep, we are strong at it, they are excellent. Makes sense

[last sparrow]

306 pulls

not race to world last pogga

[acoustic seal]

nicely done grats!

[sinful spoke]

good stuff

[modest condor]

grats

[south kayak]

gz

[junior gale]

[coarse nest]

[charred estuary]

So if we're aoe'ing in Slayer RA next tier

It's still BB > CB > Ramp? or is it BB > Ramp

[lost saffron]

Poop

[compact siren]

so true mr toph

[lost saffron]

Nomeratur

[compact siren]

ok he is cooking

[lost saffron]

Balls

[oak rain]

does anybody know how much % fury is under arms in s2 as of now?

[kindred notch]

warrior good for s2? or dead ?

[dapper goblet]

most op melee

[crude flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-serious-stare-suspicious-gif-5319823

[kindred notch]

oh arms or fury?

[summer quail]

arms

[dapper goblet]

both

[fervent yoke]

Arms if untouched will be strong - still feels clunky to play imo

[oak rain]

is fury behind by only a little?

[clever path]

Arms has too many buttons in rotation atm for aoe imo but maybe it’s just cause I played arms for years and the new stuff just didn’t feel good

[crude flicker]

Arms is like not being able to put the correct shape into the matching slot on that one kids toy

Fury is having only 5 blocks to fit correctly the rest dont match

[covert blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/the-square-hole-square-hole-shapes-piklas-gif-24625312

[restive peak]

Bluemannotgood

[covert blaze]

xeos back to warrior

[crude flicker]

Go try havoc

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-wink-gotcha-you-tube-thanks-gif-15356590760907945505

[covert blaze]

[crude flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/kylo-ren-traitor-star-wars-gif-16767158544211392703

[earnest canyon]

what do you play now?

[dapper goblet]

whatever is good

and or needed

[earnest canyon]

what is that at the moment for you

[dapper goblet]

blue or brown

perhap a little yellow thrown in there

[earnest canyon]

fair

I need to try blue man again but I dont have any melee weps and im lazy as hell

[wind torrent]

Brown for life

[whole yacht]

Is anyone here in RLE?

[earnest canyon]

im enjoying it, wish I had played brown man again way sooner as im not exactly pushing cutting edge

[hardy bluff]

yes

[whole yacht]

Did you see all the drama with the guy named scurro

[hardy bluff]

oh im not active in there

[whole yacht]

The tank that left his team and guild over not killing ansurek in 300 pulls

[hardy bluff]

happens

[whole yacht]

That was my guild. We killed it last night after replacing him.

[hardy bluff]

gg

but is it really drama if people leave mid prog?

happens all the time

dick move

[whole yacht]

The drama was about him flipping his shit in RLE complaining about us.

And everyone in RLE turned against him

[earnest canyon]

what is RLE

[hardy bluff]

raid leader exchange

[clever belfry]

a shit discord

[whole yacht]

Raid leader exchange

[earnest canyon]

oh

[coarse nest]

[young swan]

drama feasting grounds

[clever path]

Bruh a demon hunter did this with my team, flipped his shit. Said the guild wasn’t a CE guild anymore and left then we got CE like a week later. 🤡 how he felt I bet

[dapper goblet]

not a single normal human in RLE

(im in there)

(i dont type)

[whole yacht]

Karma at its finest

[clever belfry]

ure just there to screenshot arthur messages surely

[dapper goblet]

and some other messages

[earnest canyon]

Why are people in this RLE place if its so bad?

[dapper goblet]

content

[clever belfry]

people like to feel important

[earnest canyon]

I mean, can I just join it even though im not a raid leader? Im missing something here

[dapper goblet]

yes

dont need to be a raid leader

[earnest canyon]

Not sure about the important part then

[dapper goblet]

nothing important about that discord

[earnest canyon]

I will try to find it and just lurk....maybe I will learn something as pretty much everyone that will get CE has it now

[sly crane]

Id like to get a ce someday

[balmy shore]

xeos ur not normal

[dapper goblet]

thats why i'm in there

goobis

[clever belfry]

difficult to find

[balmy shore]

me too

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[balmy shore]

:3

[clever belfry]

catface

[dapper goblet]

also in GH

we're both mentally ill

[balmy shore]

wait am i not the only warrior

they turded me bc it’s the same color as warrior…

[dapper goblet]

real g's move in silence like lasagna

[earnest canyon]

yes it was super difficult, thanks

[hardy bluff]

bro im in there...

fake gh user?

[balmy shore]

sry idk who u are

[hardy bluff]

[dapper goblet]

owned

[buoyant salmon]

twitch prime

[balmy shore]

hi ark

[pliant prism]

is fury layer sticking to reckless abandon or going anger mangemnt in 11.1

[hardy bluff]

hey jackie

[hardy bluff]

last i heard they were close

[quiet geyser]

AM, cuz fun

[next ruin]

Is OF worth taking for necrotic wake ?

[restive peak]

Most people dropped OF for VC, I got title sticking w OF cuz I'm lazy and like the QOL

It won't make or break your key lol

[summer crater]

AM with Champion's Spear instead of roar is simming the highest for me right now

[sullen dove]

what is uf doing in there..

surely it has not been resurrected from the dead

[summer crater]

Getting the highest results on patchwerk 1 and 5 with it

With my character

[fervent yoke]

Idk why but when I listen to Dave Matthew’s I pump like 50k harder

[summer crater]

Hack and Slash instead of UF sims slightly better ST for me but significantly worse MT

[earnest canyon]

Same but Elton John

[sly crane]

need angry loud music to pump

especially if it drowns out the raid leader

[feral ivy]

can i trade my flightstone from 1 character to another

[summer crater]

No

[toxic crest]

Can buy ilvl 600 boxes tho

For down bad alts

Next to the panda

[feral ivy]

was giving Flightstones a s4 thing or was i just imaginging things

[restive peak]

Who wants to tell swordish…

Just kidding we only run it for M+ rn 😛

[fervent yoke]

Where da fookin sims at doe?

[young swan]

patch isnt even out

[fervent yoke]

ptr sim’s *

[young swan]

patch isnt even out

if u look hard enough u can find them tho

[fervent yoke]

I’m fury one trick worried arms is gonna pump lol

[young swan]

it will

fury will too

unless if we get nerfed

(we will)

[feral ivy]

havent touched a key since around dec 1st and holy crap im doing bad lol

[fossil rapids]

I leveled a warrior 1-80 as arms just to get a feel for it juuust in case lol

[bright sable]

I might have to retire my Fury for raids next season ngl

I cant do melee DPS while also raid leading 😭

too stupid

[earnest canyon]

make someone else RL, easy

[bright sable]

so fucking true brother

im still gonna pound through mythic+ with my fury tho

my dps goes down by like 200-300k when raid leading and its depressing

whats the best no brainer ranged DPS, does anyone know

MM hunter?

[earnest canyon]

BM hunter

[bright sable]

well at least I already have a 590ilvl hunter I guess

[earnest canyon]

mained for ages cos I had to semi raid lead and M+ mechanics are too big brain for my tiny brain

[bright sable]

I love M+ on fury

big groups big damage

[earnest canyon]

yeah fury is very fun

[bright sable]

but I cant babysit 13-16 other people while fighting queen when fury

and still do enough damage

maybe if the S2 bosses are less horrifying mechanics wise

[earnest canyon]

I mean if the boss dies and you carried on calling out mechanics, it doesnt matter that much

but week after week it gets draining

[bright sable]

dude

you dont even wanna know

😭

the amount of HEROIC Queen wipes we have

[earnest canyon]

oh heroic?

[bright sable]

I want to reach Mythic raids at some point by the rest of my guild seem to not want to 🙃

[gleaming talon]

I wish people would be more j to mythic raid bosses 1-4

[earnest canyon]

that is kinda bad I guess, but I dont want to shame anyone as I consider myself very casual and some people are in like world first guilds

everyone is different

[bright sable]

yeah its just

a lot of gold and a LOT of time

wasted

because people refuse to watch videos and practice their rotations

forcing me to take the guild from casual to more midcore because I cant anymore 😭

[earnest canyon]

maybe that guild isnt right for you

[bright sable]

or the guildies arent right for the guild

or at least for heroics

we got it to 7% the other night and it was only because we had a 639ilvl pug who absolutely PUMPED

I mean

[earnest canyon]

yeah....but at the end of the day, its a game, and you pay your sub....so something should change lol

[bright sable]

yerp

[earnest canyon]

I quit for nearly 3 months and only came back to try this warrior, and no way am I topping any meter, but its just fun to play as fury

[bright sable]

lol I didnt know you could see dps while active

I think what gets me the most

is me almost topping the chart (or in this case literally being number 2 under the 639 pug)

as fury warrior

with Mythic+ talents and build

while raid leading

[earnest canyon]

Some people are built diff, sounds like you 😛

[bright sable]

[earnest canyon]

Get a diff guild or diff raiders, idk

but i pugged HC on this warrior and im terrible, but didnt die

[bright sable]

absolutely

this guild is making me confused to

either everyone else is a lot worse than I thought

or I am a lot better than I thought

and I don't know which it is

😭

[earnest canyon]

try getting a trial in a mythic guild? Idk, its so close to new patch new

*now

[bright sable]

I'd rather make my own or whip this guild into shape tbf

I'm not GM but I am sorta makeshift PvE lead

I'm gonna have to start setting DPS and mechanic skill requirements just to join the HC raids at this point

I don't know if I wanna sweat enough to do Mythic but we should at least be able to clear HC

[earnest canyon]

Usually the RLs just look at logs after each raid and then advise people of mistakes or how they can improve....but yeah....HC is pretty much normal to me now and is very easily pugged

[bright sable]

Anyone know if theres a guild management/raid lead discord where I can go whine and discuss strats on how to manage stuff btw

[earnest canyon]

someone linked one earlier

RLM or something

[bright sable]

😭

[restive peak]

I mean if you’re setting raid times and not even clearing heroic, idk why you’d think joining a mythic guild would be sweating

Like heroic is puggable, no shade if you’re happy at that level and such but you’re already setting aside “raid nights”

If you care to get somewhere, literally the worst mythic guilds will be through heroic on their normal time slot in 2-3 weeks and into the harder content

There’s no time commitment difference

[bright sable]

not with how much time we have been stuck at this shit, I agree 😭

Every other boss went pretty smooth so I am still baffled at how much we have struggled with this

we dont have a full roster of guildies atm so we have to take pugs on every time

[whole yacht]

just was in a heroic queen pug, that couldnt get past p1

[smoky vale]

you dont have 10 people to do heroic bosses?

[whole yacht]

im so tired of this

[bright sable]

Everyone kept telling me 2/3/9 was best

because of scaling or whatever

[whole yacht]

im just trying to get a better parse, and these shitters are doing 500-600k dps. and dying to pops

[bright sable]

We have 2/3/6 or something atm

but one of the tanks and some of the healers dont have super good availability

[smoky vale]

if you have a guild group it doesnt matter?

[bright sable]

idk man I'm new to this

[smoky vale]

just show up and hav rfun

[bright sable]

living my life fr fr

21 P1 wipes

hahahahaha I'm not going crazy, you are

[restive peak]

I mean I’d say just look at the even low level mythic guilds that raid at the same time slot you’re raiding now and apply

[bright sable]

yeah I might

[summer quail]

bm hunter or evoker(devastation). tho idk why but alot of raidleaders play mage for some reason

[bright sable]

I like the guild management part but not this

[silk wharf]

Though hunter is about to change. mm is exceptionaly easy.

[bright sable]

I enjoy being a part of hosting and running stuff but the part where I have to go yell at grown adults because they are doing less DPS than the Blood DK is not fun

[dense elbow]

Why would you yell at them

[earnest canyon]

history and attachment I think 🤣

[bright sable]

might just get my Fury into a Mythic guild tho just to see how far I can get

[bright sable]

not literally

more just "why did this happen and what are you doing to improve it"

[dense elbow]

hmk

[bright sable]

which is usually met with "no its my class its just bad right now!!"

😭

[restive peak]

Like to be blunt...we're a week before S2, if they can't do heroic queen with a raid leader coordinating them

[bright sable]

anyway I will stop ranting

[restive peak]

You're gonna have the same experience in S2

Obviously players improve, but noone goes from "We can't do heroic with 18% dmg and full gear" to mythic ready quickly, if ever

[earnest canyon]

i dont think any single class or spec is so bad that with a group of people that know what they are doing, with a decent raid leader, you cant kill heroic

[restive peak]

You can literally get CE with every spec in the game

Uncarried

[earnest canyon]

mythic is a different kettle of fish, but still.....

[bright sable]

Yeah I am aware, idk what else to do other than bench people at this point lmao

[dense elbow]

Ppl stuck on Queen HC this late?
Ye, I would find a PuG or some friends alt run to leech of.
If I didn't want to leave the HC prog guild because social reasons

[bright sable]

well keep in mind this guild was made pretty recently and most of the players are late joiners into the season/havent played WoW for a long time

[restive peak]

I mean ok, you bench em..but then they're not friends you're playing with to be friends, and you're certainly not going to recruit good people when you go into S2 not having completed S1, so you kinda have to decide

[earnest canyon]

I would probably just stop raiding. You can join a pug and just do HC with no wipes.

[restive peak]

If you're comfortable where you are

And if not, start moving on

And if so, strap in to have this occur weekly for a lot of S2

[earnest canyon]

I agree about this....sometimes playing with bad people doesnt matter as you are having fun and enjoy playing with them. But it sounds like Zulufox is not enjoying raid leading, nor enjoying his progress

[restive peak]

Yeah that's my main takeaway

Like if 10 of my RL buddies were like "FUCKIT LETS THROW A 1 DAY BALL WITH THE BOIS RAID DAY" and it was just some offshoot wipefest...w/e

But people I'm willing to BENCH?

[dense elbow]

If the social part is good, I can see ppl improve and stay while the group catches up skill gaps.

But I would expect ppl to just frogleap once they can. Making the guild hardstuck

[bright sable]

but then again I started playing for the first time since BFA in December so if I can get to this point in that amount of time

when I have never raided prev expansions

yeah y'all are making a lot of sense

[dense elbow]

Just don't trap yourself in a bogmire of "it will get better", because it almost never does. It just gets worse.

[bright sable]

the main thing is that before this guild I was just getting into end game content and couldnt find people to do anything

[earnest canyon]

Why?

[bright sable]

I was looking for guilds on google and in game and couldnt find anything other than 900 member guilds with dead discords

[restive peak]

Until you get to legit like the top 50, if you're not improving consistently...the group likely won't

[bright sable]

then I got into the ground floor of this new guild and kinda built it from the ground up

with the philosophy of taking in people without experience like myself and then building people up

but obviously people arent willing to do that LOL

[earnest canyon]

Not everyone can be built up lol....or care to....its a game

but congrats on making a guil

d

[bright sable]

right but people joining with that express purpose

you'd assume they want to..

Like I said the guild is still only like 2-3 months old or whatever

and we are barely getting on our feet

but the fact that we can wipe 50 fucking times is insane to me

[restive peak]

Heroic queen is a 4min fight my dude

Like not to be rude

If they cannot do it at this point

[bright sable]

no please be rude

[restive peak]

They're never going to be mythic raiders

[whole yacht]

my god i wish it was a 4 minute fight with pugs

[bright sable]

I cant be rude to their face as a officer but I want to be

I keep saying we have a DPS problem

they keep saying no no its just a mechanics problem

[dense elbow]

50 wipes ain't a lot for prog at a low level tho
HC is tricky when DPS ain't there.

Just look at the logs and see if overall DPS is gradually becoming better

[bright sable]

meanwhile this is the DPS spread at our 7.7% attempt

[earnest canyon]

just use warcraftlogs and show them

[junior gale]

our guild does a lot of aotc make a wishes. Basically going into guilds progging heroic Queen that are pugging players you be surprised how many people still struggle with Aotc queen even this late

[clever path]

That’s bad

[bright sable]

there are 2 people below the main tank

[earnest canyon]

not everything is about dps, but you can literally see the movement ov every player

[clever path]

Like really bad

[bright sable]

the main blood DK has 496k DPS

[restive peak]

Bro don't sugar coat this

That's atrocious lol

[bright sable]

its fucking abysmal

[restive peak]

Please remember we're at 18% buff and max gear

[bright sable]

ok well we arent 639

[dense elbow]

I presume ppl got 600 gear

[bright sable]

the top DPS there was a 639 pug, the others are 615-620 ilvl

[restive peak]

I mean this fight was killed week 1 w 0% buff in what, 600 max?

[earnest canyon]

the dps is lower than me and im crap, but i was just thinking maybe people dont do all mechanics

[restive peak]

And pretty sure our dps was higher than that

[earnest canyon]

so are looking out for that

[restive peak]

Obviously not a fair comparison...but still

[radiant sentinel]

Seems like what you want to accomplish doesn’t align with most of the members of the guild. So either you have a frank discussion with people and sit under performers or you find a new guild

[restive peak]

^

That's the biggest thing

[bright sable]

yeah the number 1 option there is whats gonna have to happen

this raid was tuesday, we usually raid weekends

[dense elbow]

Problem is, they all underperforming

[bright sable]

if I have that talk and I see the same shit next raid im out lmao

[earnest canyon]

Yeah that was my thoughts....its happened a few times to me over the years depending on work/life commitments etc

[radiant sentinel]

You ain’t going to fix those issues in 1 week brother.

[restive peak]

You ain't gonna fix those issues

Period

[bright sable]

I'm not expecting fix

but if I dont even see any improvement

then theres no point

[radiant sentinel]

There’s no point

[bright sable]

im not aiming to do mythic raids first week of s2

[radiant sentinel]

A week isn’t going to change that

[bright sable]

but like at some point in s2

[radiant sentinel]

Now’s your best time to find a new guild

[earnest canyon]

You need to at least allude to the problems....if you havent done that then its on you really

[restive peak]

I can promise you with 110% certainty those players are not doing mythic in S2

[bright sable]

I have been repeatedly saying DPS need to work on mechanics and their rotations, this week I'm gonna have to start going 1 on 1 with people asking them wtf is going on

[restive peak]

They're several tiers away from being mediocre mythic players, that's if they actively try to improve

[earnest canyon]

then do that

[radiant sentinel]

Yeah if they aren’t even willing to put effort into heroic, no way it’s gonna happen for mythic

[bright sable]

yeah I get it

[dense elbow]

toxic, what if they buy - you don't know

[feral ivy]

damn lol who yall talking about

[bright sable]

im not necessarily the best player either but at least I somewhat try

[radiant sentinel]

End of the day it’s your 15 bucks a month. If you’re really passionate about the mission, then go for it. But really seems like you’re just spinning tires with people who don’t want what you want.

[bright sable]

very possible

what do mythic guilds look for when recruiting? what kinda shit should I work on

[earnest canyon]

logs usually

[dense elbow]

Always hard to leave the first time after committing. Don't worry, ppl get it. Some dramalama will appear. But the real ones understand

[radiant sentinel]

Yeah logs are a great start.

[bright sable]

does that mean the individual reports from the fights or like overall warcraft logs profile or what

[dense elbow]

Low end, logs and attendance. That is key

[bright sable]

idk if these stats are good or bad, I assume green sucks ass

[dense elbow]

Oh that is bad

[feral ivy]

that mythic or heoric

[bright sable]

Heroic

[dense elbow]

Get em to pink at least

[feral ivy]

ah yea thats bad

[bright sable]

With Mythic+ build because I'm stupid but still outperforming everyone else so I didnt bother to relearn

[radiant sentinel]

It’s definitely not good. But also have to consider the group you’re running with.

[bright sable]

these are all guild runs yea

[radiant sentinel]

It’s hard to parse when you’re running a raid full of vegetables

[feral ivy]

^ it doesnt mean ur bad in a way it could be ur raid just noting doing great

[summer quail]

What's your ilvl

[bright sable]

625 I think atm

[earnest canyon]

damn i wish my warrior was that lmao

[bright sable]

I'm def not living up to my sims

[radiant sentinel]

Do yourself a favor. Pug a queen aotc

[bright sable]

so I know I have to work on my rotation etc

[radiant sentinel]

You owe it to yourself. Only a week left to do it.

[bright sable]

when exactly does it go away? patch day or s2 start day?

[dense elbow]

Just buy it? Gotta be dirt cheap. And you get to log

[radiant sentinel]

25th

[earnest canyon]

You dont need to buy it, I did it at like 615 ilevel but probs got in cos of my main

[bright sable]

ok so patch day got it

[radiant sentinel]

Yep

[bright sable]

yeah was planning to get it no matter what

was just hoping I could get it done with my group but thats obviously not an option at this point

like in theory I'm sure we can clear it next raid night

[earnest canyon]

maybe you do need to buy it then, that kinda sucks

[bright sable]

but probably at another 10-15 wipes and with 639 dps pugs..

[radiant sentinel]

I mean, you got it 7.7, that means you can kill it. But your group is making it extremely difficult

[bright sable]

I have 1.4m I dont mind spending 100k

or whatever it goes for these days

[radiant sentinel]

You don’t have to buy it

[earnest canyon]

no clue, never bought one

[dense elbow]

Who knows, prob like 30k

[bright sable]

I should proobably switch to raid hero talents at least

[radiant sentinel]

I’ll run it with you tomorrow night if you want

[bright sable]

I just like Mountain Thane too much

😭

funny lightning strikes go brr

[earnest canyon]

that isnt the reason you havent killed the boss

[bright sable]

no but I'm sure its not helping my individual performance

altho again

I sim higher than I do, so theres definitely something wrong between the monitor and the keyboard lmao

[dense elbow]

Well, just give your guild the chance. 7% is close. Then after it has failed, buy/pug/leech the kill if you want to secure the curve

[bright sable]

I gotta work on my ui as well, I tried using Quazii's UI to not have to think too much about it and just run something

but it is probably leading me to play worse because im using it wrong and getting confused lol

[dense elbow]

Godspeed, Zulu. Happy curve hunting

[bright sable]

I think when I tried the dummy sim vs dummy thing I got 928k on the sim and 864k on the logs

so im def not optimal

[sly crane]

I feel you bro, been in guilds where we were pugging heroic for months

[lime perch]

YodaTV said we’re B tier is it time to delete WoW and get my priorities in line?

[floral frigate]

is there a post somewhere stating whats avail on patch day vs the week following?

[lime perch]

M+ and raid available week two

[sour frigate]

Hey B tier isnt that bad...

Just make warrior

[lime perch]

Fuckin amen brother

Make warrior

[sour frigate]

[modest condor]

we're sandbagging he just doesnt know

[sour frigate]

Shhh

[lime perch]

I wish we could sandbag like the warlock guy

[bright sable]

okay I just tried to pug it and it went about as well as my guild runs LMAO

4 wipes where the best was a 20% before they called it due to the time xd

[feral ivy]

which would be better mythic transmitteer or shard with the nerf?

[summer quail]

Prob still transmitter

[feral ivy]

mm kk damn

[deep rain]

I just got a 619 crafted Charged Claymore -- can I commission another identical one ( incl. embellishments etc. ) for my offhand, or do I need to get something like Everforged Greataxe?
Context: I only gather, it's been 10 years since I crafted anything important. Just trying to avoid a very expensive unequippable paperweight.

[clever path]

I mean transmitter will be replaced hopefully soon anyway so it’s not a huge deal

I wonder what our bis is gonna be

Gonna be sad if I don’t get to use the goon squad

[bright sable]

usually you'd want the second crafted piece to be your wrist

weapons are hella expensive and you will guaranteed find better

just by doing low m+ or t8 delves for weekly vault for example

[deep rain]

I know I will replace this weapon soon-ish. I do the 4x keyed bountifuls at t8 each week, and every other week I catalyst some piece of gear to keep my setbonus

[bright sable]

personally I do not think its worth the massive cost for your weapon

when a 8/8 champ track wep will be 619

anyway im not an expert so

[deep rain]

Not to worry -- my main question remains: will it work?

[orchid iron]

has anyone seen like a day-1/week-1 to do list for 11.1?

[hybrid summit]

Does it say unique equipped on it?

[upbeat blade]

Fill up the vault? Think that's it

Do the intro quest line I guess

[lavish pecan]

Yes, you can equip a second of the same item.

However, the patch is next week, and you'll get drastically better items in season 2 from, like, world quests.

(Do note, however, that you can only equip 2 embellished items. If you have another embellishment aside from your second weapon, do not craft an embellishment onto your offhand.)

[keen dove]

Do we have any sims to compare fury and arms for patch 11.1?

[radiant plank]

Fairly even as of now

[ornate prism]

Can I play both DPSs with same gear set?

[radiant plank]

Nothings stopping you

[ornate prism]

Thanks for your answers on my every stupid questions 😂

[hollow elk]

heh

[clever path]

how is warrior as a whole looking so far? compared to death knight?

[radiant plank]

Looking good, probably even better

[lapis shadow]

Arms right now goated

We are also strong

[fervent yoke]

If untouched both specs are juicy but I think Arms is going to be the “meta” for a majority of content

If only they just Uncapped fury aoe though to bring fury and arms even closer

[sour frigate]

dk better

[clever belfry]

? xd

no

[south kayak]

I don't think so

it's not better

[sour frigate]

let me doom ffs

anyway we wont survive 11.1.5

[dense elbow]

We do 4-5m in a key, the real dps do 5-7m.
Doomfuel for ya

[fervent yoke]

You talking live not on ptr right?

[dense elbow]

God I wish we did 5m overalls on live

[sour frigate]

Im trying to doom and peeps send me this

[dense elbow]

Hyenea soul is a trash tier soul-mog

wdum

[summer quail]

so is dh gonna get a support spec in 11.1.5 this time? need a repeat of s2 df

[golden kiln]

DH support spec is just them yelling at us to be grateful for having our eyes still, so we do more damage out of guilt

[south kayak]

DH support doesn't really work

I don't see dhs just supporting people

they're selfish, self righteous people who wanna attack

What if they make Vicious Contempt increase execute damage below 35%

[fair star]

Big brain

Honestly they should just remove that talent

Why make a talent that makes execute a filler

[clever belfry]

execute will not not be a filler this xpac

slayer has made sure of that

[earnest canyon]

execute should always be a warriors hardest hitting ability and execute range is our niche where no other class beats us.....

whats the point of an ability called "execute" if its like tickling the enemy with a feather

[south kayak]

Execute hasn't been an "exeecute ability" since BfA

[dense elbow]

It is called EXECUTE phase, for a reason

[south kayak]

since they made it a generator

[trim hound]

Execute should just kill the boss bros

[earnest canyon]

agree

[earnest canyon]

bfa is quite a new exapnsion though.....execute was our niche for like 15 years

[clever belfry]

?

[earnest canyon]

yeah 2018

[clever belfry]

thats

not new

my guy

[earnest canyon]

if you have played wow since day 1 its relatively new

[trim hound]

2018 was 20 years ago

[river reef]

[earnest canyon]

ssssh im not old, the game is still fresh and new

[south kayak]

it has been 7 years

[dense elbow]

Dang time went quck by :'( We in 2038 already?

[clever belfry]

legion turns 10 next year

👍

[south kayak]

It wasn't really

[river reef]

stop

[earnest canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/titanic-old-lady-finally-its-been84years-rose-de-witt-bukater-gif-4713500

[clever belfry]

can we just get back the 2 years we lost to shadowlands?

[earnest canyon]

but yeah, as someone else said "its called execute range for a reason"

[river reef]

i liked shadowlands

[dense elbow]

SL was 2 years, felt like 20

[clever belfry]

get help

execute focus sounds cool and good until u actually have it

[earnest canyon]

I would honestly like that....that expansion was so trash (though some dungeons and bosses were good)

[clever belfry]

being useless for 80% of the fight

is not fun either

honestly

[dense elbow]

80%?

[south kayak]

Fury warriors did 50% more damage during execute in legion

lol

if not more

[clever belfry]

execute shouldnt be this dogshit i agree

but legion execute for example is NOT good

[trim hound]

Jokes aside, how would you guys like execute if it was more like touch of death. Big CD big dmg

[earnest canyon]

no you dont need to be useless 80% of the fight, you just excel in execute range....maybe i just yearn for classic execute

[south kayak]

Execute should at least be higher prio than all fillers

[earnest canyon]

i didnt play warrior in legion so cant comment

[river reef]

i didnt play wow in legion yet

[dense elbow]

you missed out

[clever belfry]

fury was the lowest performing spec

[south kayak]

I didn't play wow

[clever belfry]

outside exe

basically

[earnest canyon]

i dont want it to be a long cd......I liked pooling rage then execute

[river reef]

im waiting for legion remix

[clever belfry]

u looked like ass on prog until a kill

[river reef]

or legion classic

[clever belfry]

and if u died on kill u looked like ass

[south kayak]

[dense elbow]

Dont die, ez

[clever belfry]

oh u got a mech on kill?

ure also not contributing

[south kayak]

Legion fury was extreme levels of execute damage

[clever belfry]

execute focus (esp in conjuction with jugg) is not fun to actually play

[south kayak]

should be a balance in there

[dense elbow]

Sounds like you had skill issues, Anda. Smh - I just spammed execute and was having a blast

[river reef]

#arms shining through

[dense elbow]

[clever belfry]

jugg also exists on fury

[oblique trail]

You will press execution and you will (not) enjoy it

[clever belfry]

me when thane has 25% exe ddmg

(its not worth pressing)

[south kayak]

yeah but so does raging blow

[river reef]

you can raging blow deez nuts

[south kayak]

Raging blow needs to be beat up on the street

[dense elbow]

Meh, a profile adjustment will come next patch

dont worry

[south kayak]

remove SS from it

and all the dumb passive talents buffing it

[dense elbow]

They just want to give us a workable baseline

Execute and OF being bad is just part of the triage

[last sparrow]

[river reef]

forget brown. Join pink

:p

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/traitor-gif-21942304

[earnest canyon]

doesnt flow as well to me, plus yellow sparkles vs sheer anger isnt as fun

[last sparrow]

i actually did enjoy my ret alt

[south kayak]

tbh ret also has terrible execute

hammer of wrath

doing shit damage

[river reef]

tru and real

[last sparrow]

but atleast

[river reef]

ret also looks very bad on singletarget without execution sentence in m+

[last sparrow]

ret can use the holy power from it?

[river reef]

yes

[last sparrow]

where as the rage gen from execute is whatever

is the idea its gonna be an AM tier? or are we playing the new cursed RA

[oblique trail]

Both likely

[last sparrow]

[oblique trail]

But AM suffers heavily from downtime