#fury

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open prairie
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i feel by that logic

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the darkfallen should have been subraces

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of the elves

frozen berry
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We should have ggotten High Elves not Void Elves for Alliance -_-

undone flower
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Idk the lore but it’s another recolor of an elf I don’t want it

open prairie
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Not really alliance didnt really need more elves

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was just pandering

frozen berry
open prairie
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blood elves are kinda high elves again

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after the whole cleansing thing

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that they can go back to golden eyes

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idk wow lore has been out the window since forever

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tauren paladin was when you know blizz stopped caring

undone flower
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Idk why I hope next playable race doesn’t have an humanoid face, I would like more fantasy now

frozen berry
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Blizz kidna shot themselves in the foot for their ecusse why they're aren't any playable high elves. 'Their numbers are to few to warrant making them a playable race'... okay, bs, you made a even SMALLER population of elves, void elves, which you pulled out of your asses, a player race -_-

open prairie
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I mean

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alliance has enough pretty races

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as is

frozen berry
thick fossil
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High elves would basically be Night Elves though.

frozen berry
open prairie
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I mean the original high elves

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were nelves

undone flower
frozen berry
thick fossil
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I guess you could say Nightborne are what High elves should have been?

undone flower
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But the world quests traumas are covering my way of thinking

frozen berry
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And humans were runt Valajar

open prairie
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besides playable nightborne are memes

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compared to npc

thick fossil
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I made my Horde Warrior a Nightborne.

frozen berry
undone flower
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It’s that or I want to be a rat

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The Rat Warrior

frozen berry
undone flower
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For example yes

open prairie
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thats a vulpera

undone flower
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The amount of things we slaughter, we never convinced one race to join a faction

frozen berry
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And not the good kitsune kind 😛

open prairie
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might add well be rats

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lil runts

undone flower
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Or there are no fish race

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In my memory there are fish dudes in MoP

frozen berry
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I mean...what are the major fantasy tropes we're missing still? Class, race, etc wise? Tinkerer/Master Engineer and Bard for classes? Then what? Ratfolk? Giantkin?(Valajar?), Catkin? Fishman/Murlocs?

undone flower
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Why I can’t be a fish

frozen berry
open prairie
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bard is not going to be well received

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look how big a mistake aug was

undone flower
open prairie
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support classes already exist in wow

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they’re called healers

frozen berry
undone flower
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Im waiting tinkerer since bfa

open prairie
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Healer is a support spec

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they just come with half of them are drama queens

frozen berry
thick fossil
frozen berry
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'Well...it'll either regroew your arm...or you'll grow another head....let's see!?'

undone flower
open prairie
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ask for tinker

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blizz gives stupid dragon class

frozen berry
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I mean, and when we first saw Evoker we all thought Dragon Knight -_-

compact knot
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evokers pretty cool, then aug is just the most loser thing ever

frozen berry
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Not skinny ass wizard lizard -_-

open prairie
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Sometimes i want to see

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how much time is spent a raid tier

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calculating how much an evoker needs to external a priest

undone flower
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BUT this fucking npc tinkerer have the 3 roles and a rotation for each, but no….. dragon was the thing right

open prairie
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because jfc

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i swear priest is a handicapped ass class

meager gyro
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working on the tree where I delete rampage and fix the spec

clever belfry
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bro this is giving me kanker in the eye

fallen pivot
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What's fury's bis looking like next tier?

cyan star
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Item level probably

whole yacht
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🤔

whole yacht
cyan star
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Am.. I wrong? 😮

lapis shadow
whole yacht
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2-handed weapons*

fallen pivot
lime perch
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Single minded fury is back

sinful spoke
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ran into super man

young swan
slim coral
young swan
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i havent been silver since w1 s0

slim coral
young swan
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was d1

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then tilt queued to p1

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was epic

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pretty sure my losing streak is still going

slim coral
young swan
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im so bored man

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need patch

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also kind of hate playing with current RA after playing ptr

winter shoal
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Wish poe event started this weekend instead of next

summer quail
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it's perfect at that time. got 1 week of play til mhwilds then

slim coral
young swan
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yeah gonna make storm even more broken

dapper goblet
fallen pivot
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I should prob make a 636 weapon before embellishments

grave lark
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for PTR, odyn's fury or onslaught?

young swan
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neither

grave lark
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woah

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what's the talent build?

slim coral
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Basically take 0 capstones

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and you'll be pretty close

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on the fury side ofc

young swan
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depends if u want ST or aoe

grave lark
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funky

slim coral
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yeah our capstone don't really give any value at all for whatever reason

covert blaze
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ai generated talent tree

sinful spoke
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Ive been trying to do 7s on my monk to gear it and its been horrible

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These tanks i get are disgustingly bad

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I might have to gear it as bm

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And i dont like bm

sinful spoke
slim coral
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Wait spear isnt' take in the ST build?

sinful spoke
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Currently at p2

slim coral
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lmao

young swan
grave lark
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Wow I hate it

young swan
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regardless tho its some cheeks

slim coral
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still funny

upper mica
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From what I'm seeing arms seems to be in the play in m+ but fury is interchangeable in raid?

young swan
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arms everywhere

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as of right now

upper mica
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Well me being fury life and having arms.... I may just quit to s3 and pray lol

pale sable
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how far apart are the two specs % wise?

young swan
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not much

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u could play fury and be fine

upper mica
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Hating*

covert blaze
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just play fury lol

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why would you quit because arms is slightly better

upper mica
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Because being fury means ull never get invited to keys hahaha

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I hate the meta grind... "not meta no invite"

oblique trail
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Right

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because Fury gets invited rn over Arms?

languid radish
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All i hear it is will be even easier to get great parses as fury next season.

covert blaze
upper mica
languid radish
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They need to give Warriors lust.

young swan
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definitely dont

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would be cool and thematic but would fuck up tank balance (maybe) and would not impact dps specs at all

harsh frost
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Any idea what's currently out performing in PTR? Mountain or Slayer?

young swan
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depends on what content ur talking about

languid radish
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Raid

harsh frost
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Raid and probably 10 keys

young swan
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slayer for raid

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prob still just thane for 10s

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although at some point 10s will be easy enough that it wont matter

harsh frost
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Is thane rn good for 10s?

young swan
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yeah

harsh frost
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Not PTR, current

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I've been running Slayer, I heard it was better in 10s

young swan
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it doesnt really matter

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the concept behind slayer in low keys is that the sustained dps from thane isnt necessary

harsh frost
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Hmm I'll try it out, I was low key hoping thane would be best for raid in 11.1

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:P

young swan
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just play whatever you enjoy

harsh frost
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Yeah I can't do that in raid

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lol

young swan
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definitely can

harsh frost
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If I want to see the bench

sinful spoke
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As if fury or arms have been good enough to get invited to keys anyways

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U will have to host ur own key or queue with a tank or healer friend anyways

covert blaze
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gotta meta slave por pug weekly keys

languid radish
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Facts

sinful spoke
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Our class isnt meta and will never be meta

covert blaze
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./s

sinful spoke
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Even before fury got gutted in s1

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It wasnt meta

harsh frost
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It'll be meta when it's not turbo util taxed for rally and battle shout

sinful spoke
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My class can be shit and i will still play it

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And i learned to like both arms and fury

languid radish
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Its the lack of utility

sinful spoke
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And prot recently for m+

young swan
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its not the lack of utility

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its lack of damage and uncapped damage

harsh frost
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^^^

languid radish
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Even if they did a ton of damage, a class that's close with more utility is getting taken.

young swan
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no it wont

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u will just bring both

sinful spoke
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What utility does enhance have other than lust

languid radish
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Why is balance taken over better classes atm?

sinful spoke
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Their cc? I guess

molten wing
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with how things are currently if you are doing higher keys why would you ever take a warrior over a ret paladin for exampe

harsh frost
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Balance cranks, it doesn't have a lot of util

young swan
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yeah last i checked balance just does giga uncapped aoe

languid radish
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Same issue rogues run into, if you don't need a skip take something else.

harsh frost
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Except people are still turbo taking rogues

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lol

sinful spoke
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Rogue is different tho

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Melee vs ranged argument

harsh frost
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Boomy is good in keys when the rest of the group can handle the util requirements

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Except boomy does have a few stops, so it's not completely useless

sinful spoke
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Whens the last time a melee dps was meta and enhanced doesnt count

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Its pseudo ranged

young swan
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frost dk before it got shot in the head

sinful spoke
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I guess true

whole yacht
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bro. this chat was dead mid day

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1am now its POPPIN

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lmao

young swan
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m+ meta is always just about finding who has the best damage and then tailoring the comp to fit utility restrictions

languid radish
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I just don't think shout and rally is enough, even with better AoE

young swan
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even survivability doesnt matter much with aug + externals

languid radish
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Why won't they reverse some of the AoE capping?

young swan
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they did

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but fury has always been 5 target andy

oblique trail
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They reversed it by making our AoE cap worse

young swan
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except before we could get around it by having uncapped cd's

sinful spoke
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Im still sad they killed roar

young swan
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now our cd's are softcapped as well

sinful spoke
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Tree in aa was the most fun fight ever

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I felt so useful

covert blaze
young swan
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yeah

slim coral
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I still don't know why spiteful serenity hasn't been addressed

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kind of a weird talent they haven't even talked about once

summer quail
young swan
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im aware

native adder
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for aoe I see you prioritize bloodbath and bloodthirst above raging blow, but in st bloodthirst falls down in priority. what is the reason for that?

dapper goblet
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15 warrior tier

native adder
oblique trail
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To proc Thunder Blast

native adder
covert blaze
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why is UF so bad

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i'm hitting a dummy in the ptr

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it proc'd like 3 times in 5+ minutes

slim coral
gleaming siren
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Rather 2 Warrior than 3 Warlocks am I right fellas

obsidian yarrow
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Has fury every been this bad single target before?

oblique trail
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Our ST rn is really good?

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If you want bad ST, look at S2 DF in raid*

obsidian yarrow
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Oh I just looked at 95th percentile on some st fights and it looked really bad

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Maybe they're just bad for fury despite being st

oblique trail
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I should add a caveat

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Our ST is really good, for Fury standards, but it's also really RNG dependant to perform really well in ST

fading sky
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Its st ia good, in aoe specc

oblique trail
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There's a quite big variance in Fury's ST simply due to how many layers of RNG there is tied to it, mostly with Slayer being at fault

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But our ST being great or not isn't that big of an issue this raid at least, because while our ST doesn't really compare to the higher end, our job of bursting adds is nearly unparralleled

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Only class that compares to that truly is Enhancement and maybe another spec or two I don't think of

slim coral
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The ads on the first fight are gonna be insane for padding

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The intermission ads I mean

oblique trail
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And next tier our ST assuming no changes (there will for sure be changes) is arguably some of the best at the moment

slim coral
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The ads on stix are gonna be weird unless you have a dk

fading sky
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Bdk inckeks

slim coral
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I’m not sure about how mugzee and gallywix will play out

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I will say this though the amount of pure trash the new raid has is actually nuts

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I can’t recall one raid that has this many ads

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Maybe SOTFO being the closest

covert blaze
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do you think the raid favors fury or arms more?

slim coral
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But ideally people will soak them with the ball and bring them into melee

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On the first fight they stack up in intermission

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They repair the boss like a pit crew

covert blaze
slim coral
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In terms of add heavy

solar violet
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hey, new warrior here, quick question why do we pref raging blow over bloodthirst?

radiant plank
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more dam

solar violet
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in raid aoe build yes, but in mountain thane m+ tooltip even says bthirst has more

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and it like empowers shit

oblique trail
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Basically Raging Blow buffs a lot of other abilities

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Raging Blow buffs Rampage and it also buffs Bloodthirst

solar violet
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oky doky

oblique trail
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And per Rampage cycle, you want to use both Crushing Blow and Bloodbath anyway, so you might as well use Crushing Blow first, because it then buffs the Bloodbath after

oblique trail
solar violet
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ye i mean ikik but it just felt like whenever i press it the nubmer is bigger

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but what part of it buffs bloodthirst

oblique trail
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The tier set

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And bloodcraze

solar violet
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ohhhhh

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makes sense since i dont have it yet lmao

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yeye i saw bloodthirst that one i did see but since you still do both empowered raging adn the other

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thx for le answers

earnest turtle
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The time has come where I remember I am a member of this Discord, then I humbly swivel my way over here and ask if we be changing Herp talents this coming season

oblique trail
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We are playing both rn, and we will be in S2

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Slayer should still be the best for Raid, and Thane for M+

slim coral
earnest turtle
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I appreciate the concise answer

oblique trail
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There may be a fight where Thane becomes the better option in raid, like it was for Court

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Remains to be seen

slim coral
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I think thane has potential on gallywix based off the book

radiant plank
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I think fury has potential on gallyvix based off the coming arms nerfs

smoky vale
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i think aug has potential on gallyuix based off the upcoming buffs

sour frigate
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Make warrior.

jade cipher
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been playing frenzied enrage with NOXIV build in m+

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ngl it feels so good

sour frigate
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ngl gameplay doesnt change

vague fern
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so from what i have seen and been told, is it going to be
ST/2T - Arms
M+ Fury?

hardy bluff
slim coral
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For sure lol

south kayak
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Buff blade storm

oak garden
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what is a good trinket that you get out of the M+ in S2?

lime perch
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Buff smf

lime perch
earnest canyon
earnest canyon
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lmao that would happen to me for sure....thats me blade storming

lime perch
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I know the season hasn’t started yet but what is the bis talent build? Are we meta? How easy is the rotation? What is our bis?

dense elbow
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First part of that, into the rest. Nice trollpost, 8.2/10

lime perch
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I think an 8.2 of 10 is generous, bless you king/queen

charred estuary
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If slaughtering strikes just said BT RB and execute buff ramp by 20%

Is the spec just immediately fixed or am I tripping

lime perch
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Seems like primary abilities feel great but the capstone abilities now feel underwhelming

high echo
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It's definitely a bandaid solution

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They need to properly rework the class

charred estuary
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And if rampage actually did more damage than all the builders like that's it right

You get

Ramp > execute > bt > rb

Ezpz?

high echo
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They killed odyns fury

radiant plank
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you guys say that they need to rework the class but fury's combat loop is one of the most popular in the game

high echo
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Keep that then, just give it good capstones to pick instead of nerfing them

charred estuary
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Yeah I like the build and dump playstyle and enrage is engaging

Rage just doesn't matter now and the builders have way too many extra effects for the normal player to understand intuitively

That and odyns/onslaught are bad buttons

earnest canyon
high echo
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Class as a whole is not flashy and everything is "do more dmg" or "do aoe dmg"

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Which is fine but flavor is missing imo

earnest canyon
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idk, dual wielding 2 giant 2 handers while in plate armor and trying to get angry as much as possible is pretty flavorsome to me

radiant plank
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Problem is rn that the state of the talents have lead to BT and RB just powercreeping all our other spells

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They would need to do serious work in removing alot of power from RB and some from BT and bringing up rampage / os / of

high echo
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Yes and that's intentional because they wanted fury to move away from burst aoe

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That warrants a rework but instead they've just upped the base numbers instead so that class isn't in the gutter

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Hence why I suspect a rework in midnight

charred estuary
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RA should buff rampage and execute too

Anger management should say "ramp does 10% more dam and also cdr"

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Really weird to not care about spenders

gusty compass
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When does Wowhead or Icyveins put up the season 2 guides? Like the best gear to farm etc.

high echo
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Execute should be THE button to press

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It's way better in the ptr now

charred estuary
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100% agree

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Especially as slayer I mean fucking come on

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They shouldn't have to force us to take sudden death in the execute hero spec

gusty compass
ionic bone
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Saw a guide from Critcake for Kyveza mythic and wondering why he uses spell reflect for the nether rift suck, anyone got an idea? https://youtu.be/3Tkg8-j2hwo?si=GXNaDG9nbvnW8AzT&t=299

Probably one of my favourite fights so far in the raid! Really enjoyed this one. Intermission is 10/10.

0:00 - Intro
0:46 - Commentary
8:39 - Bonus clip


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dense elbow
ionic bone
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There's nothing to reflect here, am I missing something

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nor is there any incoming damage for the 30% dr

smoky vale
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the damage hurts

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!

sudden tusk
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Suc does a decent amount of damage and it will be up for the end of the intermission phase when you need it

smoky vale
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why not help your healers out

ionic bone
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what damage, nether rifts activate the suck

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nothing else happens

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the suck last for 6 seconds

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and it doesn't take more than 1 mil of your hp

sudden tusk
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Damage ramps every phase

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It's just free dr if you don't get queens bane

ionic bone
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the DR is not even active

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since he reflects the rift

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but he still takes pulsating damage

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which is really negligible

high echo
ionic bone
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i did say that

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but for some reason it reflects the nether rift if u use spell reflect before the pull happens

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and u don't get the DR for the 6 sec duration of it

mossy fox
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wdym

sudden tusk
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It's for the dr not the rift boss gets a damage amp when you consume a mask

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So you consume 2 masks and take more dam

mossy fox
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reflect's 20% lasts its full duration even if you reflect something before it ends

dense elbow
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SR DR lingers for the full duration even if you deflect/reflect

ionic bone
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shouldn't it stay as a buff then?

mossy fox
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it's free damage reduction, what else would you use it for

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reflect has 2 buffs

sudden tusk
ionic bone
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check the top

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it's missing

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am I drunk

fickle bluff
mossy fox
dense elbow
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Blizz prob should prob change the icon to SR with a different hue, to make it more clear

ionic bone
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the old paladins king's buff is our icon for SR DR

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are they for real

high echo
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no need for a rework/revamp right?

lime perch
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No if it’s broken don’t fix it

high echo
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honestly

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give back the old recklessness

ionic bone
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I was honestly losing my shit over this and it's all because of a stupid icon

lapis shadow
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Fury boys is it joever

dense elbow
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Embrace the pain

lime perch
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Yeah spell reflect has a DR that reduces damage from spells

ionic bone
lime perch
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Yes most buffs have icons associated with them

ionic bone
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yea and this one doesn't make any sense

lime perch
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Welcome to warrior

ionic bone
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all they had to do is leave the spell reflect icon going on

cursive quiver
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why make so much hassle over an icon xd

keen dove
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i think the guy likes icons

lime perch
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Bc s2 waiting room

keen dove
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some kind of fetish i guess

lapis shadow
cursive quiver
lapis shadow
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Always thought that bloodthirst looks like a trollmask

dense elbow
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Weird place to reply, but oh well

lapis shadow
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Is it?m

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Hahahah

cursive quiver
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xd

dense elbow
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Gotta be

high echo
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it is

lapis shadow
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Then it is.

dense elbow
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So be it

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now it is

lapis shadow
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Speaking of icons why is bloodthirst troll mask but bloodbath a sword

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Yet crushing blow and raging blow is still a weapon

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That's the icon concerns I got

high echo
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it just stuck from vanilla i guess

lapis shadow
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Shudve been a better troll mask

dense elbow
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They had x amount of symbols from warcraft 3, that is one of em

ionic bone
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bloodthirst is also bloodlust

dense elbow
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We had bloodlust all along

high echo
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ramp is weird too

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just a dude yelling

dense elbow
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He is rampaging

lapis shadow
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Just a screaming ogre?

ionic bone
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u get enraged, gues it makes sense

junior gale
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Heroic strike or ambush

dense elbow
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It is a very heroic strike

lapis shadow
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Bald human screaming or orc?

fickle bluff
warm crag
dense elbow
lapis shadow
dense elbow
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100 healer log

lapis shadow
high echo
lapis shadow
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:P

warm crag
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should probably get the insanely large canines checked out then

lime perch
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Why

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Let him live

high echo
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yeah you right

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kill him

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new icon

lime perch
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Purple orc has bad thoughts in his Brian

warm crag
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purple man face

lime perch
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Speaking of purple men faces

lime perch
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Do you think Smurf’s turn purple when they choked?

whole yacht
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bruh]

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what

lime perch
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Think draeni but smol and no hoof or tail

whole yacht
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i know what smurfs are

lime perch
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Nice

whole yacht
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that "bruh what" was to you asking about choking them

dense elbow
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Have you heard em sing?

lime perch
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Perfectly normal thing to think about

whole yacht
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disagree

dense elbow
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Listen to their songs

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and you will come around

lime perch
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Funky gets it

whole yacht
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im good

dense elbow
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You for sure aint evil

lime perch
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Tbd on being good

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You’re definitely you

whole yacht
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are you 2 sitting next to each other, discussing what to say or something

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lmao

lime perch
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No

dense elbow
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Warriors are 1 cell combined

lime perch
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Just same amount of brain cell

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See

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Lmao

whole yacht
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bruh

wind torrent
lapis shadow
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Looking at S2 dungeons

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What do we have for utility to like, dispell ourselves?

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Bitter immunity?

eternal sundial
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still just bitter + dwarf ye

lapis shadow
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So

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A talent and -20 Euros

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Poggers

eternal sundial
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nothin new ye

sour frigate
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U have time to roll dwarf for free

fallen pivot
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You all ever gear an alt and it gets a bunch of bis pieces after just 1 run of a dungeon

sour frigate
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Yes

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My evoker and mage got nuts pieces every run

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Warrior had awesome vaults tho

lapis shadow
sour frigate
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yes

lapis shadow
sour frigate
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I got neither bedge

lapis shadow
whole yacht
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🤔

thick fossil
whole yacht
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the fucking what?

fallen pivot
#

Is it fine to craft a 636 chest piece instead of gloves if Im a M+ player? I doubt Im gonna get a 639 tier chest before the next season starts

modest condor
#

what are you crafting it for? are you planning to do a last minute title range push?

remote bobcat
fallen pivot
oblique trail
#

just craft gear

remote bobcat
#

@fallen pivot what made you think its bad to craft a chest in the first place?

oblique trail
#

it's not issue if its 636 or 639

#

as long as you have the tier bonus there's nothing else to worry about

remote bobcat
#

i got that impression

whole yacht
#

the way its phrased makes it seem like 639 chest is just better. and it might not be a good idea to craft 636

fallen pivot
#

Fair, gonna hold off until tuesday when I get my vault before crafting the gear

#

Just trying to maximize ilvl atm

clever belfry
oblique trail
dapper goblet
#

8 warrior tier

modest condor
#

it's not class stacking until you have at least 10 of the same class

restive peak
#

20 warrior tier

#

Victory rush + second wind = hyuge stonks

lost saffron
#

balls

#

is that elon musk!?

oblique trail
#

elon balls

lost saffron
#

balls musk

clever belfry
#

elon ballsk

earnest canyon
keen sequoia
#

Hi im a new warrior player, i have been playing rogue since legion.

Which spec do you recommend for leveling

sour frigate
#

fury

#

or prot for dungeon spam

high echo
#

just go fury

keen sequoia
#

I focus on mythic+

#

which spec could be better on 11.1

#

for mythic

devout totem
#

fury

sour frigate
summer quail
earnest canyon
south kayak
marble schooner
#

idk why I just know Arms gonna be broken

summer quail
#

coz the latest buffs were crazy

whole yacht
#

the latest buffs put it above fury

#

from what i can tell

summer quail
whole yacht
#

its above by a pretty decent margin in some scenarios

summer quail
#

yes, but in a simming st scenario it's not that far above. it simming a bit higher in st means the 2 target gap is immense

whole yacht
#

roughly 100k in ST. youre right, not terrible. but enough to make people go "fury bad, dont take, bring arms instead"

last sparrow
#

queen mythic we can jump leap the ring with essence right?

summer quail
#

yes

whole yacht
#

just dont accidentally land on the tail of the ring

restive peak
#

They’re actually pretty close, arms execute is wild though

grim star
#

I just want both specs to be good and not see us get nerfed every week like last season

sturdy trench
#

quick question. Anyone know where to grab item level 730 gear on ptr?

#

oh its a bug lol

slim coral
#

Ames execute phase goes crazy

#

Maybe legion details climb back

flat sapphire
#

Warrior better get some utility or smth soon cause i dont wanna sit in group finder for literally an hour

sour elbow
#

at this point just give us more buffs and take ALL utility away

#

We can be true meats then and kill everything before it kills us. The true warrior way

restive peak
#

Utility is not what determines the meta

#

Damage does, utility of top damage dealers is then figured out as you climb

flat sapphire
#

I dont wanna be meta i just wanna be invited 😭

#

done all keys on 11 and I cant even get into a 10

restive peak
#

You deal with the same headaches all non meta dps do, it’s not worse for warriors

#

It’s also super late season where everyone is 638+ ilvl

#

So if you’re at all below that, you’re gonna have to do your own key

gilded pawn
#

^

#

Literally every dps issue

#

You may have some leeway if you apply to like a premade 4 stack and they need lust

#

In which case lust gets easier

#

But generally it does not matter your util

restive peak
#

No one in pugs even uses their util at those key levels sadly

#

They just go brrrrr

opal zenith
#

So true

onyx musk
#

Arms is very weird, the only time i had all skills up is when the key starts, the rest of the game, all cds from avatar, ravager, roar, wb, sweeping and demolish doesnt align. Hope they do something about that, fury feels more comfortable even with AM

tender forge
#

Hey guys I've been away for a few weeks , how is fury looking going into next patch?

devout totem
#

good 👍

frank dawn
#

Can’t wait for the huge nerf Monday before patch launch

tender forge
#

Hopefully not too good I can't handle the nerfs again

onyx musk
tender forge
warm crag
slim coral
#

@mossy fox don't put us in S tier

#

please

summer quail
#

even when a spec was so goddamn overnerfed and beyond garbage it saw a few CE's. like sub rogue after uldir in bfa was borderline "useless" and it still got CE's

junior gale
#

it has begun the youtube feed that will be filled with tier lists

dense elbow
#

Better put Fury in S tier, we deserve it

summer quail
#

nahh we want fury to be put in A tier and arms in highest S. that way arms gets nerfed

#

and we're bingchilling

open prairie
#

i mean

#

didnt xeos put both specs in s tier

#

and leave call

thick fossil
#

Is xeos the Shaman guy?

#

Cause they still look pretty above everyone else.

high echo
#

why is he making chat do a tierlist lol

sinful spoke
#

@mossy fox if he invites u put us in f tier

frank dawn
#

Fury F tier until they buff OF

sinful spoke
#

give us back double of

#

trying to snag crafting orers to make gold b4 season and these bots are pissing me off

#

i havent made gold in over a month

#

im in the negatives

frank dawn
#

F

silk wharf
#

Thats a concerningly low amount of gold.

#

For patch being so close.

long smelt
#

Are u typing a reply to each person?

sinful spoke
sinful spoke
#

to this since patch launched

#

i leveled bs and bought longboy

long smelt
#

Bruh u need to macro a response lol

#

At the very least

#

Most ppl just go with the quickest response

sinful spoke
whole yacht
#

Are you using the addon or whatever that auto sends a pre-typed message when someone in trade mentions your profession?

#

Pretty sure I remember someone telling me about something like that

long smelt
#

I dont think theres ones that auto sends

whole yacht
#

😮 I've been lied to?

long smelt
#

I could be wrong and not knw about one that does

gilded pawn
#

auto send seems very spammy and therefore illegal

long smelt
#

^

gilded pawn
#

im not saying it doesnt exist

#

im saying that you probably wont find it on curseforge

whole yacht
#

It's called craftscan

#

It pops up a notification that you can click to send the message out. Or ignore

long smelt
#

Yup u still have to click to send so its not auto

whole yacht
#

Yes

#

I was wrong about the auto send

#

Still much faster than manually scanning trade. Clicking their name. And ctrl v

long smelt
long smelt
modest condor
#

in dragonflight there was a weakaura going around that automatically said Yes chef! whenever someone else said it

#

so they do exist

thick fossil
#

I hated that thing.

#

It was cancer in raid.

whole yacht
#

i thought it was funny tbh

coarse nest
#

In DF my guild had “bruh” as the auto reply WA

#

So one guy would say bruh and then it’d just be a wall of bruhs in the chat box or above everyone’s heads

whole yacht
#

thats hilarious

shadow maple
#

in s2 for raid what wil be better fury or arms?

meager gyro
#

NEW RAMPAGE DESIGN 🧑‍🍳

Rampage (30s cooldown) : Rampage throws your stupid insecure ass into a full on loser in anime series enrage. While you have fury, you stay in this berserked state. You leave this state once you run out of fury.

boom fury fixed 🫳 🎙️

#

oh yeah and it makes you do more dmg

summer quail
sly crane
#

I hate rend

thorny peak
#

i gotta say trying to get the last 150 io for 2500 has been a painful experience

meager gyro
#

I think warrior is missing a between the eyes button

unreal kelp
#

you dont need to cook anymore

thorny peak
#

damn i didnt know u had video of me cooking?

high echo
#

oh wait im blind

oak granite
#

cen sum 1 cook a new ramp age ?

whole yacht
#

press button. win

bold grail
#

anyone know how accurate the main target damage in the sim report is? im assuming its right but just making sure

zinc python
#

How much stronger is fury single target versus arms?

slim coral
molten wing
#

yeah its gonna come down to the fight design , to know what spec you play in the raid

young swan
#

as of right now its just going to be arms

molten wing
#

spoilers smh

golden kiln
#

80k isn't too bad of a difference if it wasn't for arms having the most valuable execute niche of any spec next patch

slim coral
#

yeah it's execute is massive now

golden kiln
#

it'll be the same as most prog tiers when both specs are close in ST ig

#

arms for ST, fury for cleave lol

#

what's new

sullen dove
#

bro has a ring named after him in sod 💀 @edgy widget

summer crater
#

All the way back to vanilla

#

It used to have agility though

sullen dove
#

was he named after the ring perhaps detective

sullen dove
#

what bludseph yappin bout

sudden tusk
#

smorbsmish

#

sodblish

#

sleepdish

sour frigate
#

demolish

clever belfry
#

my favourite classic wow item is the ring Mark of Kern, named after my favourite game developer Mark Kern
||i hope he explodes||

pale sable
#

!sims

clever belfry
#

warrior good on ptr

#

all u need to know

pale sable
lapis shadow
tardy lark
#

warrior nerfed thursday

clever belfry
#

only arms

#

🙏

lapis shadow
#

Don't hate our friends

tardy lark
#

if fury dodges nerfs i'd be impressed

#

can always kneecap them week 1 and 2 of raid

clever belfry
#

if fury gets nerfed and arms doesnt im uninstalling

#

if i gotta play this dogshit iteration of arms on all bosses ill actually just not play

molten wing
#

just play ret

clever belfry
#

no 👍

summer crater
#

Excluding any changes arms seems to > fury in both raid and mythic+ now

#

Because the dungeons are full of large pack aoe

tardy lark
dense elbow
#

Ok, but arms is less tanky and Fury got more self healing, so, so, Fury is better - so hah!
Fury best spec!
Fury is not going to get nerfed, and somehow get arms nerfed as well

clever belfry
#

uwu weakaura deleted gg..

tardy lark
#

doing a loooot of heavy lifting

radiant plank
#

gonna lie here

#

fury > arms

clever belfry
#

good lie

radiant plank
#

I just hope its AM tier and not RA

#

holy piece of shit gameplay

clever belfry
#

RA is kinda peepee
however AM is also dogass

#

AM static 45s cdr when

dense elbow
#

Why not play AM either way? Like me Chadstorm

radiant plank
tardy lark
#

I would go a long way to not be like you dandy

dense elbow
#

ydnad Rude guys, rude

radiant plank
#

Godbless we get reworked in midnight

clever belfry
#

surely our man wakes up

radiant plank
tardy lark
#

cant fault a man for tryna party

clever belfry
#

balls

molten wing
iron portal
#

Howdy there partner

bold osprey
#

Heya,
are there any tricks for Fury at Ovinax Mythic?
Doing just 10% logs with 89% uptime. Going for aroung 2.5M overall.
Just blasting Cds at pull and then "keep em" for the next egg breaks. Are those 4M DPS logs "cheese"? ty 🙂

molten wing
#

its been a while since i've done the fight but are you playing AM or ? i'm pretty sure you play AM there and just send cds for every egg break

#

unless something changed since i've been gone

coarse widget
#

tiniest icons ever :)

bold osprey
#

Everthing tiny x:

devout totem
molten wing
#

i think at this point everything also dies too fast right

#

so if you have a comp that overkills the aoe

bold osprey
#

1 missed global and all small adds are dead yeah

molten wing
#

it might just suck to parse there

iron portal
#

It might just suck to raid Nerubar at this point

bold osprey
#

Ok. nearly doing the same timings as on Lorrgs. Thats why I was wondering

devout totem
#

play am, pop cd every pack of adds
keep combat potion for 1:30 pack of adds

#

and perhaps ask for an external cause u might get aggro from spiders keks

bold osprey
#

Our DH players blasting 4M+ every time and adds Are dead before BS ends so I could press OF or sth.

molten wing
#

if you have a decent aoe comp just go full ST and blast boss honestly

devout totem
#

ye gl then, ask your RL to bench the DH

granite crown
iron portal
#

I know right?

gleaming siren
summer crater
flat river
# summer crater

I ain't no monkey I've seen this before i won't fall for it twice

#

Wait

#

😳

dense elbow
#

Fun little vid

bleak bluff
#

Very sad to see fury in the dump ㅠㅠ

#

anyone trying out arms?!
Its not that difficult as i thought it would be

radiant plank
#

no point

#

arms nerf

#

arm is kill

clever belfry
#

arm explode

#

kabumm

young swan
dense elbow
#

Depends on what scale things are before you dump them, now ain't it

#

Some ppl throw away bannanas that has some marks on em

#

some when they brown

#

others make cake of em

unreal onyx
#

I freaking LOVE dooming

remote bobcat
#

current state of fury means that once blizzard realizes the numbers are too high, we will be the most bottom tier dps possible

hybrid dawn
#

I DID IT

remote bobcat
hybrid dawn
#

just in time for the SECOND SEASON

remote bobcat
#

how come you didnt do it before

#

last year

earnest canyon
dense elbow
#

Dads deserve it

earnest canyon
thick fossil
smoky vale
#

i just woke up and my dog isnt next to me

#

this is bad

iron portal
thick fossil
#

You say that as if it where a bad thing.

#

Yeah, they smell bad and tear things up, but they're cute and floofy!

iron portal
#

Haha

#

well thats one way to put an argument

coarse nest
#

Yall getting hyped for them nerfs coming!?

south kayak
#

so hypeed

earnest canyon
#

im hyped for the cool car thing.....as long as they dont mess with fury rotation too much or completely dumpster it ill be happy

coarse nest
#

Where siegbreaker

restive peak
#

Nerfs will mostly be arms I think, arms cranks, fury fairly balanced

#

Which just means fury is better everywhere again, kinda sucks for arms

south kayak
restive peak
#

Arms is 110% eating a nerf lol

south kayak
#

if Fire, Enha and BM hasn't really eaten a nerf

#

why would arms

radiant plank
#

warrior life

#

we are looking at like minimum 8% aura nerf for arms

south kayak
#

I better not see any aura nerfs for arms unless they nerf the ones i mentioned before

south kayak
earnest canyon
south kayak
#

It will, it's just funny

#

it was attributed to the player and they made it fly off the handle by attributing it to the pet

south kayak
#

and this is why I don't main warrior anymore

high echo
#

Hunter and shaman are the favorites

#

We can't have them be bad

unreal onyx
high echo
#

They have developers

south kayak
#

Because they're more reluctant to nerf specs better than arms or fury than

south kayak
#

than arms and fury

radiant plank
#

Master sandbagger is reverse sandbaggging now

south kayak
south kayak
#

what warlock tier is he talking about

#

there are 3 tiers

radiant plank
#

Affli

high echo
south kayak
#

ok

high echo
#

Casters man..

radiant plank
#

and destro

south kayak
#

Surely wasn't working before

high echo
#

Affli I understand

south kayak
#

Why do people call the hunter TC master sandbagger?

high echo
#

But poor destro not op broken :(

south kayak
#

It's not broken op but it's pretty close

radiant plank
south kayak
#

oh

radiant plank
#

but in his gearsets he is using some cringe low ilvl shit

south kayak
#

that is scummy

radiant plank
#

to bring his sim down

south kayak
#

that's why there are never any public hunter sims in any sim sheets i see

#

lmfao

radiant plank
#

or if he wants to flex how good his apl is compared to public he uses an overleved weapon etc.

hardy bluff
#

is he the same guy that paywalled his guides aswell?

radiant plank
#

idk

#

i thought box talked about azor

south kayak
#

I was

radiant plank
#

so prolly

hardy bluff
#

yea its that guy

high echo
south kayak
iron portal
high echo
#

Man from Florida here, uhm, buffs please?

south kayak
#

BM did get their aoe nerfed by a bit but they made all that moot when they changed or buffed their tier set

earnest canyon
#

I always felt BM should have a bit of a "debuff" as its the only ranged that can do full dps at range with no casting.....like if MM is ever behind there is no point playing it (unless you like the class fantasy)

south kayak
#

so true

#

It's not like MM has abig issue with moving anyway

#

they can do everything while moving except aimed shot

junior gale
#

Yeah MM doesn't really care about movement that much either.

opal sapphire
#

Yea so like everything except your biggest ability

high echo
#

Maybe that's the secret to a happier life

#

Just play bm

opal sapphire
#

Done it sometime, its legit chill. You dont really care about much and you just do your dmg

#

If you are over 30 Im convinced its the bis spec

lapis shadow
#

If u want Melee BM that's like Retri Paladin

earnest canyon
# high echo Just play bm

did it for years since legion as I got sick of being interrupted as a mage in mythic plus.....but I just got bored and stopped playing completely for a few months

high echo
lapis shadow
#

😴

earnest canyon
#

ret has way more buttons as templar than bm

stiff barn
#

Kinda

#

I mean it transforms your other button

earnest canyon
#

it feels clunky to me.....having to get 5 holy power

#

prefer the other one...forget the name

south kayak
#

or instant sometimes

high echo
#

Herald

stiff barn
high echo
#

Herald seems awesome thematically

south kayak
#

BM isn't really any different than most specs in terms of simplicity

#

it used to be really bad in Legion when u literally only useed 2 buttons

earnest canyon
south kayak
#

it's not an exaggeration lol

earnest canyon
#

As long as im not dragging the raid/group down massively, I put fun way over DPS numbers

south kayak
#

right now it's more engaging

earnest canyon
#

but i only got to 6/8 mythic this tier than had enoguh

covert blaze
#

bm is so fucking boring
it's like you're playing a different game

earnest canyon
#

i liked it, but I think I just did it on autopilot as im too lazy to setup a new class with WAs for UI and bindings etc....and the new talent trees are overwhelming if you havent played the class for years (im also dumb)

high echo
earnest canyon
#

wish I had raided on warrior instead

high echo
#

I didn't know his spec was that ez back then

clever belfry
#

bm is chill to play as an alt or smth

#

cause u can just focus on doing the right things

#

but progging on it would lose me some iq i think

covert blaze
#

good for raid leading

south kayak
#

Its not like BM is any different compared to fury

#

they have the same amount of buttons

#

rotationally

earnest canyon
#

fury just feels way more fun to me, not sure why

covert blaze
#

bm plays like a melee class

south kayak
#

Fury is very smooth and and the feedback you get from pressing an ability is very instant

earnest canyon
#

does way less dps than my BM but then its 20 ilevel lower

covert blaze
#

it's basically cheating to be ranged and have 0 punishment on movement

south kayak
#

I don't know what word im looking for lol

earnest canyon
#

but most of the time its 0 yes

south kayak
#

all ranged should be like destro

#

and never get any free casts off

covert blaze
#

instant cb was so busted

earnest canyon
#

i never liked destro except in classic where you could pull aggro no matter what the tank did

south kayak
#

Ritual of Ruin was so busted

#

in SL

south kayak
#

re dead

high echo
#

i loved it

#

SB had a threat modifier higher than usual

earnest canyon
#

yes, it was risk aand reward.....do I risk it? (you always did)

#

yeah it did iirc

high echo
#

so if you cirt x4-5 times back to back..

#

you'd pull threat

south kayak
#

meanwhile warrior doing 3x damage isn't pulling threat

earnest canyon
#

well that was the other class I liked.....doing executes on that 2nd boss in BEL with unlimited rage was insanely fun

#

BWL

lime perch
#

Make warrior

earnest canyon
#

make warrior greg again

earnest canyon
high echo
earnest canyon
#

i could have googled....but lazy

high echo
#

i held a few classicwow records in my time

#

you basically wanted to pull threat and it was the tank's job to dps so much to stay ahead

south kayak
#

I find it funny how people deal with that boss in hardocre wow

high echo
#

it was hilarious

south kayak
#

they just hearthstone with the debuff

#

and it goes away

earnest canyon
#

lol

high echo
#

thats funny

south kayak
#

and hs is instant cast with the debuff

earnest canyon
#

havent tried hardcore....just sounds like a pain in the ass as I played MMOs like UO where if you got ganked, all your items were looted permanently, and it just reminds me of that

south kayak
#

Classic isn't a game designed around hardcore

#

so it's very unfair

high echo
#

raiding in hardcore... :/

south kayak
#

there are random spells in raids that can one shot you

#

I watched some hardcore OnlyFangs raids

#

there was one player who got one shotted just like that

earnest canyon
#

hardcore just seems like a gimmick for "content creators" so they can rage when they die for "content"..... not really something I enjoy watching

high echo
#

those people all suck though unfortunately

south kayak
#

because 2 abilities got her at the same time

#

thats' the point

#

it's fun that way

high echo
#

yes true

junior gale
#

Genuinely something is wrong with you if you play hardcore classic past one death

high echo
#

but an "on-point" player would almost never die with a decent group

junior gale
#

Fun to do it the first time to see how far you get. But if you keep playing after multiple deaths something def wrong with you

south kayak
#

with streamers

high echo
#

when i was pushing world ranks you had to pull geddon + shazzrah, never mind going out when geddon did his mechanic

junior gale
#

That's different of course

south kayak
#

they don't have tim eto do anything

high echo
#

exactly lol

south kayak
#

shazzrah is the squishiest boss in the game

high echo
#

i could get off a couple shadowbolts while warriors did millions of dps

south kayak
#

classic

high echo
#

tanks wear dps gear too lmao

#

only thing to decide was when would you reck

#

so you would rotate that every time to get 99 on every boss

south kayak
#

Classic Warrior is crazy

#

it's busted

high echo
#

so broken so fun

south kayak
#

I'm playing SoD right now

#

47 hunter

south kayak
#

or didn't, just buffed everyone else

high echo
#

tbc had a lot of caster favored scenes as well

#

and i think arms was the way

#

banishment for vanilla crimes

south kayak
#

nah it wasn't iirc

#

maybe i don't remember

#

then back to fury in wotlk

high echo
#

i think arms had a debuff, so you wanted 1 guy just for that

south kayak
#

and then arms skyrocketed in Cata

high echo
#

and the other spots warrior barely had any

south kayak
#

and fury is doing healing on bosses

#

I can't rememebr why fury sucks in cata

high echo
#

i didnt play tbc-wotlk so knowledge is limited there

south kayak
#

oh right, they normalized rage gen and forgot to buff to compensate

high echo
#

i could write a thesis on classic warr tho